[gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders

Chris G cgrabowski73 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 2 09:14:21 CST 2007 

that's what i thought, i have one and really like it.  the Icon that is.
don't have the docking station.



On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:50:21 -0500
"Stephen Guerra" <stephen at independentliving.com> wrote:

> Chris, it is $1395 and with the docking station it is $395 more
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Chris G
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:34 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders
> 
> 2 grand?
> isn't it around 1395?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:06:12 -0500
> "albert griffith" <albertpgriffith at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm watching the development of Icon.  If they're able to finish it, 
> > it will be the all-in-one device I'm looking for.  Note taker, cell 
> > phone, recorder, calendar, stop watch timer, alarms, a 30 gig hard 
> > drive, wireless and blue tooth connectivity, and Windows copy 
> > protected format capabilities.  I'll gladly pay the two grand for
> something like this.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:44 PM
> > Subject: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders
> > 
> > 
> > | Yes, I can understand that. I'm probably a little more daring than 
> > | that but then again I have the time to go through things and I 
> > | understand fully that not everyone has the time or the patience that 
> > | I and others probably have. Ok, you make a small mistake but its not 
> > | the end of the world, you're still here, the world hasn't ended, you 
> > | still have a roof over your head etc.
> > | the most difficult product I've ever had to master? Well, that's 
> > | been without a doubt my Panasonic DVD/vCR recorder combo where both 
> > | units record, the machine has a twin tuner etc, now that thing 
> > | really took some getting used to but I'm using it now.
> > |
> > | On 02/02/2007, at 12:30 PM, albert griffith wrote:
> > |
> > | This brings to mind a time when many of us were taken by the 
> > | announcement of a dictionary put out by the Franklin company.  This 
> > | was just before the Language master when we had no portable 
> > | dictionaries.  It was listed in the old Aids and Appliances 
> > | catalogue.  It was described as accessible.
> > | They
> > | said it announced the words.  What we didn't know was that it only 
> > | announced what you were inputting and it didn't read the 
> > | definitions.  If I had been able to afford it, I'd have been in the 
> > | same boat as two of my friends who did buy the thing.  They got a 
> > | refund but I've been appropriately guarded in my approach to new 
> > | technology every since.
> > | ----- Original Message -----
> > | From: "don bishop" <w6smb at donbishop.org>
> > | To: "gui-talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > | Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:13 PM
> > | Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> > |
> > |
> > || YOu know,
> > ||
> > || When I first heard about these new recorders they really sounded 
> > || great and maybe a perfect replacement for the Book Courier.  But, 
> > || at the same time I had the feeling that it was too good to be true, 
> > || and apparently that's the way it is.
> > ||
> > || Maybe it's okay for someone who just wants a digital recorder, but 
> > || if you're serious about such things as using it for a player as 
> > || well, it just isn't worth it in it's current state.
> > ||
> > || It also goes to show that accessability is in the eyes of the 
> > || accesser.
> > ||
> > || Don
> > ||
> > ||
> > ||
> > || *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > ||
> > || On 2/1/2007 at 8:04 PM George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> > ||
> > || >Okay, but the things you said disappointed you are things that
> > || would
> > || >disappoint me, too.  I don't want to pay a lot of money, or for
> > || that
> > || >matter,
> > || >any money for something full of hiss, and I would want something
> > || that had
> > || >line ins and outs, too.  I see those things as short-comings.
> > || Pam.
> > || >----- Original Message -----
> > || >From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> > || >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > || >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:13 PM
> > || >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> > || >
> > || >
> > || >> Ok, well let's get one thing perfectly clear, just because I
> > || don't
> > || >> think something is suitable for me doesn't mean that I'm telling 
> > || >> people they shouldn't use it themselves, if the Olympus recorder 
> > || >> sounds the sort of thing you'll want to use then fine! use it to
> > || your
> > || >> hearts content, the point I'm making here is that it wouldn't
> > || suit me
> > || >> as I believe it has some critical limitations and problems and
> > || for
> > || >> the price I believe you should be getting a little more. I've
> > || already
> > || >> expressed my disappointment at the level of audio hiss present
> > || in
> > || >> some of the recordings I've now heard, for a digital recorder
> > || this is
> > || >> not good and there is no excuse for that.
> > || >> I expressed disappointment that the unit has no line in or out
> > || jacks
> > || >> however I can see where Olympus is coming from here, I guess
> > || with
> > || >> something designed mainly for dictation purposes which this
> > || machine
> > || >> is, then such things as line in and out are not worth
> > || considering.
> > || >> Finally my greatest annoyance would be that the memory cannot be 
> > || >> expanded, swapped etc, that's worse than a conventional cassette 
> > || >> recorder and a bad flaw.
> > || >> So I guess the question has to be asked, are people prepared to
> > || pay
> > || >> this sort of money for something which on the whole, isn't
> > || really
> > || >> anything in my view to write home about? Are people willing to
> > || pay
> > || >> all this money just for a voice guidance system?? I'm certainly
> > || not
> > || >> but that's just me. I'm after the new Minidisc machine as this
> > || sort
> > || >> of device will suit me better. It will handle dictation easily
> > || thanks
> > || >> to its feeld microphone or any other external microphones you
> > || may
> > || >> care to use. You can edit your notes or your audio recordings
> > || "on the
> > || >> fly", that's more than can be said for my Iriver and the lack of 
> > || >> editing facilities is a huge disappointment for me on that
> > || machine
> > || >> but this topic is probably for another post.
> > || >> I can record audio to my hearts content thanks to the
> > || analog/digital
> > || >> line input and output.
> > || >> Yes, the minidisc recorder doesn't have a voice guideance system
> > || that
> > || >> I grant you however I have 2 minidisc machines here, both of
> > || which
> > || >> I've been able to access many of the functions of including the 
> > || >> editing functions, by having someone read parts of the manual to
> > || me,
> > || >> taking notes and having someone go through the menus of my
> > || machines
> > || >> whilst I write so taking this into account, I'd rather something
> > || with
> > || >> functionality over voice guidance systems etc, they're nice but 
> > || >> they're not the only thing which makes a good product.
> > || >>
> > || >> On 02/02/2007, at 2:53 AM, George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> > || >>
> > || >> Do you have one you would suggest instead??  Pam.
> > || >> ----- Original Message -----
> > || >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> > || >> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > || >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:03 AM
> > || >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> > || >>
> > || >>
> > || >> > I'm going to have a few cents here as well.
> > || >> > The recorder is not for me but this is just me.
> > || >> > Firstly, it doesn't have any line in or out so that takes it
> > || off the
> > || >> > list for a start and given this fact then I personally
> > || wouldn't call
> > || >> > the recorder a "quality recorder", its meant as a dictation
> > || machine
> > || >> > it would seem to me and probably doest that jub reasonably
> > || well.
> > || >> > The other thing which turns me of this unit is the hiss the
> > || unit
> > || >> > seems to generate in all the samples I've heard thus far.
> > || >> > Now I CANNOT CONFIRM THIS BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD IT FOR MYSELF
> > || BUT
> > || >> > I'VE TALKED TO OTHER USERS OF THIS RECORDER AND THEY SAY IT
> > || "CLIPS"
> > || >> > VERY EASILY, THAT BEING THE CASE THEN THIS IS BAD AS THERE IS
> > || NO
> > || >> > REASON WHY THIS SHOULD HAPPEN WITH A digital recording device.
> > || >> >
> > || >> > On 01/02/2007, at 6:44 PM, albert griffith wrote:
> > || >> >
> > || >> > Dane, thanks
> > || >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > || >> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> > || >> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > || >> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:31 AM
> > || >> > Subject: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> > || >> >
> > || >> >
> > || >> > | since this seems to be a hot topic right now, I thought I'd
> > || mention
> > || >> > | that you'll find another review in 2 parts at 
> > || >> > | http://www.blindcooltech.com
> > || >> > |
> > || >> > | Dane Trethowan
> > || >> > | Phone: +613 9747 3975
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> > || >> > |
> > || >> > |
> > || >> > |
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