[gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders

Fri Feb 2 06:20:49 CST 2007

yes thank you, that was the device I was trying to think of and it  
has everything built over a LINUX operating system which means its as  
solid as a rock and should perform well.

On 02/02/2007, at 4:06 PM, albert griffith wrote:

I'm watching the development of Icon.  If they're able to finish it,  
it will
be the all-in-one device I'm looking for.  Note taker, cell phone,  
recorder,
calendar, stop watch timer, alarms, a 30 gig hard drive, wireless and  
blue
tooth connectivity, and Windows copy protected format capabilities.   
I'll
gladly pay the two grand for something like this.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:44 PM
Subject: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders

| Yes, I can understand that. I'm probably a little more daring than
| that but then again I have the time to go through things and I
| understand fully that not everyone has the time or the patience that
| I and others probably have. Ok, you make a small mistake but its not
| the end of the world, you're still here, the world hasn't ended, you
| still have a roof over your head etc.
| the most difficult product I've ever had to master? Well, that's been
| without a doubt my Panasonic DVD/vCR recorder combo where both units
| record, the machine has a twin tuner etc, now that thing really took
| some getting used to but I'm using it now.
|
| On 02/02/2007, at 12:30 PM, albert griffith wrote:
|
| This brings to mind a time when many of us were taken by the
| announcement of
| a dictionary put out by the Franklin company.  This was just before  
the
| Language master when we had no portable dictionaries.  It was listed
| in the
| old Aids and Appliances catalogue.  It was described as accessible.
| They
| said it announced the words.  What we didn't know was that it only
| announced
| what you were inputting and it didn't read the definitions.  If I had
| been
| able to afford it, I'd have been in the same boat as two of my
| friends who
| did buy the thing.  They got a refund but I've been appropriately
| guarded in
| my approach to new technology every since.
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "don bishop" <w6smb at donbishop.org>
| To: "gui-talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:13 PM
| Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
|
|
|| YOu know,
||
|| When I first heard about these new recorders they really sounded
|| great and maybe a perfect replacement for the Book Courier.  But,
|| at the same time I had the feeling that it was too good to be true,
|| and apparently that's the way it is.
||
|| Maybe it's okay for someone who just wants a digital recorder, but
|| if you're serious about such things as using it for a player as
|| well, it just isn't worth it in it's current state.
||
|| It also goes to show that accessability is in the eyes of the
|| accesser.
||
|| Don
||
||
||
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||
|| On 2/1/2007 at 8:04 PM George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
||
|| >Okay, but the things you said disappointed you are things that
|| would
|| >disappoint me, too.  I don't want to pay a lot of money, or for
|| that
|| >matter,
|| >any money for something full of hiss, and I would want something
|| that had
|| >line ins and outs, too.  I see those things as short-comings.
|| Pam.
|| >----- Original Message -----
|| >From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
|| >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
|| >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:13 PM
|| >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
|| >
|| >
|| >> Ok, well let's get one thing perfectly clear, just because I
|| don't
|| >> think something is suitable for me doesn't mean that I'm telling
|| >> people they shouldn't use it themselves, if the Olympus recorder
|| >> sounds the sort of thing you'll want to use then fine! use it to
|| your
|| >> hearts content, the point I'm making here is that it wouldn't
|| suit me
|| >> as I believe it has some critical limitations and problems and
|| for
|| >> the price I believe you should be getting a little more. I've
|| already
|| >> expressed my disappointment at the level of audio hiss present
|| in
|| >> some of the recordings I've now heard, for a digital recorder
|| this is
|| >> not good and there is no excuse for that.
|| >> I expressed disappointment that the unit has no line in or out
|| jacks
|| >> however I can see where Olympus is coming from here, I guess
|| with
|| >> something designed mainly for dictation purposes which this
|| machine
|| >> is, then such things as line in and out are not worth
|| considering.
|| >> Finally my greatest annoyance would be that the memory cannot be
|| >> expanded, swapped etc, that's worse than a conventional cassette
|| >> recorder and a bad flaw.
|| >> So I guess the question has to be asked, are people prepared to
|| pay
|| >> this sort of money for something which on the whole, isn't
|| really
|| >> anything in my view to write home about? Are people willing to
|| pay
|| >> all this money just for a voice guidance system?? I'm certainly
|| not
|| >> but that's just me. I'm after the new Minidisc machine as this
|| sort
|| >> of device will suit me better. It will handle dictation easily
|| thanks
|| >> to its feeld microphone or any other external microphones you
|| may
|| >> care to use. You can edit your notes or your audio recordings
|| "on the
|| >> fly", that's more than can be said for my Iriver and the lack of
|| >> editing facilities is a huge disappointment for me on that
|| machine
|| >> but this topic is probably for another post.
|| >> I can record audio to my hearts content thanks to the
|| analog/digital
|| >> line input and output.
|| >> Yes, the minidisc recorder doesn't have a voice guideance system
|| that
|| >> I grant you however I have 2 minidisc machines here, both of
|| which
|| >> I've been able to access many of the functions of including the
|| >> editing functions, by having someone read parts of the manual to
|| me,
|| >> taking notes and having someone go through the menus of my
|| machines
|| >> whilst I write so taking this into account, I'd rather something
|| with
|| >> functionality over voice guidance systems etc, they're nice but
|| >> they're not the only thing which makes a good product.
|| >>
|| >> On 02/02/2007, at 2:53 AM, George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
|| >>
|| >> Do you have one you would suggest instead??  Pam.
|| >> ----- Original Message -----
|| >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
|| >> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
|| >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:03 AM
|| >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
|| >>
|| >>
|| >> > I'm going to have a few cents here as well.
|| >> > The recorder is not for me but this is just me.
|| >> > Firstly, it doesn't have any line in or out so that takes it
|| off the
|| >> > list for a start and given this fact then I personally
|| wouldn't call
|| >> > the recorder a "quality recorder", its meant as a dictation
|| machine
|| >> > it would seem to me and probably doest that jub reasonably
|| well.
|| >> > The other thing which turns me of this unit is the hiss the
|| unit
|| >> > seems to generate in all the samples I've heard thus far.
|| >> > Now I CANNOT CONFIRM THIS BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD IT FOR MYSELF
|| BUT
|| >> > I'VE TALKED TO OTHER USERS OF THIS RECORDER AND THEY SAY IT
|| "CLIPS"
|| >> > VERY EASILY, THAT BEING THE CASE THEN THIS IS BAD AS THERE IS
|| NO
|| >> > REASON WHY THIS SHOULD HAPPEN WITH A digital recording device.
|| >> >
|| >> > On 01/02/2007, at 6:44 PM, albert griffith wrote:
|| >> >
|| >> > Dane, thanks
|| >> > ----- Original Message -----
|| >> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
|| >> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
|| >> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:31 AM
|| >> > Subject: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
|| >> >
|| >> >
|| >> > | since this seems to be a hot topic right now, I thought I'd
|| mention
|| >> > | that you'll find another review in 2 parts at
|| >> > | http://www.blindcooltech.com
|| >> > |
|| >> > | Dane Trethowan
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