[gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders

Thu Feb 1 23:34:04 CST 2007

2 grand?
isn't it around 1395?


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:06:12 -0500
"albert griffith" <albertpgriffith at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm watching the development of Icon.  If they're able to finish it, it will 
> be the all-in-one device I'm looking for.  Note taker, cell phone, recorder, 
> calendar, stop watch timer, alarms, a 30 gig hard drive, wireless and blue 
> tooth connectivity, and Windows copy protected format capabilities.  I'll 
> gladly pay the two grand for something like this.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:44 PM
> Subject: [gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders
> 
> 
> | Yes, I can understand that. I'm probably a little more daring than
> | that but then again I have the time to go through things and I
> | understand fully that not everyone has the time or the patience that
> | I and others probably have. Ok, you make a small mistake but its not
> | the end of the world, you're still here, the world hasn't ended, you
> | still have a roof over your head etc.
> | the most difficult product I've ever had to master? Well, that's been
> | without a doubt my Panasonic DVD/vCR recorder combo where both units
> | record, the machine has a twin tuner etc, now that thing really took
> | some getting used to but I'm using it now.
> |
> | On 02/02/2007, at 12:30 PM, albert griffith wrote:
> |
> | This brings to mind a time when many of us were taken by the
> | announcement of
> | a dictionary put out by the Franklin company.  This was just before the
> | Language master when we had no portable dictionaries.  It was listed
> | in the
> | old Aids and Appliances catalogue.  It was described as accessible.
> | They
> | said it announced the words.  What we didn't know was that it only
> | announced
> | what you were inputting and it didn't read the definitions.  If I had
> | been
> | able to afford it, I'd have been in the same boat as two of my
> | friends who
> | did buy the thing.  They got a refund but I've been appropriately
> | guarded in
> | my approach to new technology every since.
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "don bishop" <w6smb at donbishop.org>
> | To: "gui-talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> | Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:13 PM
> | Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> |
> |
> || YOu know,
> ||
> || When I first heard about these new recorders they really sounded
> || great and maybe a perfect replacement for the Book Courier.  But,
> || at the same time I had the feeling that it was too good to be true,
> || and apparently that's the way it is.
> ||
> || Maybe it's okay for someone who just wants a digital recorder, but
> || if you're serious about such things as using it for a player as
> || well, it just isn't worth it in it's current state.
> ||
> || It also goes to show that accessability is in the eyes of the
> || accesser.
> ||
> || Don
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> ||
> || On 2/1/2007 at 8:04 PM George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> ||
> || >Okay, but the things you said disappointed you are things that
> || would
> || >disappoint me, too.  I don't want to pay a lot of money, or for
> || that
> || >matter,
> || >any money for something full of hiss, and I would want something
> || that had
> || >line ins and outs, too.  I see those things as short-comings.
> || Pam.
> || >----- Original Message -----
> || >From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> || >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> || >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:13 PM
> || >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> || >
> || >
> || >> Ok, well let's get one thing perfectly clear, just because I
> || don't
> || >> think something is suitable for me doesn't mean that I'm telling
> || >> people they shouldn't use it themselves, if the Olympus recorder
> || >> sounds the sort of thing you'll want to use then fine! use it to
> || your
> || >> hearts content, the point I'm making here is that it wouldn't
> || suit me
> || >> as I believe it has some critical limitations and problems and
> || for
> || >> the price I believe you should be getting a little more. I've
> || already
> || >> expressed my disappointment at the level of audio hiss present
> || in
> || >> some of the recordings I've now heard, for a digital recorder
> || this is
> || >> not good and there is no excuse for that.
> || >> I expressed disappointment that the unit has no line in or out
> || jacks
> || >> however I can see where Olympus is coming from here, I guess
> || with
> || >> something designed mainly for dictation purposes which this
> || machine
> || >> is, then such things as line in and out are not worth
> || considering.
> || >> Finally my greatest annoyance would be that the memory cannot be
> || >> expanded, swapped etc, that's worse than a conventional cassette
> || >> recorder and a bad flaw.
> || >> So I guess the question has to be asked, are people prepared to
> || pay
> || >> this sort of money for something which on the whole, isn't
> || really
> || >> anything in my view to write home about? Are people willing to
> || pay
> || >> all this money just for a voice guidance system?? I'm certainly
> || not
> || >> but that's just me. I'm after the new Minidisc machine as this
> || sort
> || >> of device will suit me better. It will handle dictation easily
> || thanks
> || >> to its feeld microphone or any other external microphones you
> || may
> || >> care to use. You can edit your notes or your audio recordings
> || "on the
> || >> fly", that's more than can be said for my Iriver and the lack of
> || >> editing facilities is a huge disappointment for me on that
> || machine
> || >> but this topic is probably for another post.
> || >> I can record audio to my hearts content thanks to the
> || analog/digital
> || >> line input and output.
> || >> Yes, the minidisc recorder doesn't have a voice guideance system
> || that
> || >> I grant you however I have 2 minidisc machines here, both of
> || which
> || >> I've been able to access many of the functions of including the
> || >> editing functions, by having someone read parts of the manual to
> || me,
> || >> taking notes and having someone go through the menus of my
> || machines
> || >> whilst I write so taking this into account, I'd rather something
> || with
> || >> functionality over voice guidance systems etc, they're nice but
> || >> they're not the only thing which makes a good product.
> || >>
> || >> On 02/02/2007, at 2:53 AM, George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> || >>
> || >> Do you have one you would suggest instead??  Pam.
> || >> ----- Original Message -----
> || >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> || >> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> || >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:03 AM
> || >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> || >>
> || >>
> || >> > I'm going to have a few cents here as well.
> || >> > The recorder is not for me but this is just me.
> || >> > Firstly, it doesn't have any line in or out so that takes it
> || off the
> || >> > list for a start and given this fact then I personally
> || wouldn't call
> || >> > the recorder a "quality recorder", its meant as a dictation
> || machine
> || >> > it would seem to me and probably doest that jub reasonably
> || well.
> || >> > The other thing which turns me of this unit is the hiss the
> || unit
> || >> > seems to generate in all the samples I've heard thus far.
> || >> > Now I CANNOT CONFIRM THIS BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD IT FOR MYSELF
> || BUT
> || >> > I'VE TALKED TO OTHER USERS OF THIS RECORDER AND THEY SAY IT
> || "CLIPS"
> || >> > VERY EASILY, THAT BEING THE CASE THEN THIS IS BAD AS THERE IS
> || NO
> || >> > REASON WHY THIS SHOULD HAPPEN WITH A digital recording device.
> || >> >
> || >> > On 01/02/2007, at 6:44 PM, albert griffith wrote:
> || >> >
> || >> > Dane, thanks
> || >> > ----- Original Message -----
> || >> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
> || >> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> || >> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:31 AM
> || >> > Subject: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
> || >> >
> || >> >
> || >> > | since this seems to be a hot topic right now, I thought I'd
> || mention
> || >> > | that you'll find another review in 2 parts at
> || >> > | http://www.blindcooltech.com
> || >> > |
> || >> > | Dane Trethowan
> || >> > | Phone: +613 9747 3975
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> || >> > | Mobile: +61 425 777 508
> || >> > | Skype: grtdane11
> || >> > |
> || >> > |
> || >> > |
> || >> > |
> || >> >
> || >> >
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