[gui-talk] New accessible technology was Olympus recorders

Thu Feb 1 22:44:08 CST 2007

Yes, I can understand that. I'm probably a little more daring than  
that but then again I have the time to go through things and I  
understand fully that not everyone has the time or the patience that  
I and others probably have. Ok, you make a small mistake but its not  
the end of the world, you're still here, the world hasn't ended, you  
still have a roof over your head etc.
the most difficult product I've ever had to master? Well, that's been  
without a doubt my Panasonic DVD/vCR recorder combo where both units  
record, the machine has a twin tuner etc, now that thing really took  
some getting used to but I'm using it now.

On 02/02/2007, at 12:30 PM, albert griffith wrote:

This brings to mind a time when many of us were taken by the  
announcement of
a dictionary put out by the Franklin company.  This was just before the
Language master when we had no portable dictionaries.  It was listed  
in the
old Aids and Appliances catalogue.  It was described as accessible.   
They
said it announced the words.  What we didn't know was that it only  
announced
what you were inputting and it didn't read the definitions.  If I had  
been
able to afford it, I'd have been in the same boat as two of my  
friends who
did buy the thing.  They got a refund but I've been appropriately  
guarded in
my approach to new technology every since.
----- Original Message -----
From: "don bishop" <w6smb at donbishop.org>
To: "gui-talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders

| YOu know,
|
| When I first heard about these new recorders they really sounded
| great and maybe a perfect replacement for the Book Courier.  But,
| at the same time I had the feeling that it was too good to be true,
| and apparently that's the way it is.
|
| Maybe it's okay for someone who just wants a digital recorder, but
| if you're serious about such things as using it for a player as
| well, it just isn't worth it in it's current state.
|
| It also goes to show that accessability is in the eyes of the
| accesser.
|
| Don
|
|
|
| *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
|
| On 2/1/2007 at 8:04 PM George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
|
| >Okay, but the things you said disappointed you are things that
| would
| >disappoint me, too.  I don't want to pay a lot of money, or for
| that
| >matter,
| >any money for something full of hiss, and I would want something
| that had
| >line ins and outs, too.  I see those things as short-comings.
| Pam.
| >----- Original Message -----
| >From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| >To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:13 PM
| >Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| >
| >
| >> Ok, well let's get one thing perfectly clear, just because I
| don't
| >> think something is suitable for me doesn't mean that I'm telling
| >> people they shouldn't use it themselves, if the Olympus recorder
| >> sounds the sort of thing you'll want to use then fine! use it to
| your
| >> hearts content, the point I'm making here is that it wouldn't
| suit me
| >> as I believe it has some critical limitations and problems and
| for
| >> the price I believe you should be getting a little more. I've
| already
| >> expressed my disappointment at the level of audio hiss present
| in
| >> some of the recordings I've now heard, for a digital recorder
| this is
| >> not good and there is no excuse for that.
| >> I expressed disappointment that the unit has no line in or out
| jacks
| >> however I can see where Olympus is coming from here, I guess
| with
| >> something designed mainly for dictation purposes which this
| machine
| >> is, then such things as line in and out are not worth
| considering.
| >> Finally my greatest annoyance would be that the memory cannot be
| >> expanded, swapped etc, that's worse than a conventional cassette
| >> recorder and a bad flaw.
| >> So I guess the question has to be asked, are people prepared to
| pay
| >> this sort of money for something which on the whole, isn't
| really
| >> anything in my view to write home about? Are people willing to
| pay
| >> all this money just for a voice guidance system?? I'm certainly
| not
| >> but that's just me. I'm after the new Minidisc machine as this
| sort
| >> of device will suit me better. It will handle dictation easily
| thanks
| >> to its feeld microphone or any other external microphones you
| may
| >> care to use. You can edit your notes or your audio recordings
| "on the
| >> fly", that's more than can be said for my Iriver and the lack of
| >> editing facilities is a huge disappointment for me on that
| machine
| >> but this topic is probably for another post.
| >> I can record audio to my hearts content thanks to the
| analog/digital
| >> line input and output.
| >> Yes, the minidisc recorder doesn't have a voice guideance system
| that
| >> I grant you however I have 2 minidisc machines here, both of
| which
| >> I've been able to access many of the functions of including the
| >> editing functions, by having someone read parts of the manual to
| me,
| >> taking notes and having someone go through the menus of my
| machines
| >> whilst I write so taking this into account, I'd rather something
| with
| >> functionality over voice guidance systems etc, they're nice but
| >> they're not the only thing which makes a good product.
| >>
| >> On 02/02/2007, at 2:53 AM, George and Pamela Dominguez wrote:
| >>
| >> Do you have one you would suggest instead??  Pam.
| >> ----- Original Message -----
| >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| >> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| >> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:03 AM
| >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| >>
| >>
| >> > I'm going to have a few cents here as well.
| >> > The recorder is not for me but this is just me.
| >> > Firstly, it doesn't have any line in or out so that takes it
| off the
| >> > list for a start and given this fact then I personally
| wouldn't call
| >> > the recorder a "quality recorder", its meant as a dictation
| machine
| >> > it would seem to me and probably doest that jub reasonably
| well.
| >> > The other thing which turns me of this unit is the hiss the
| unit
| >> > seems to generate in all the samples I've heard thus far.
| >> > Now I CANNOT CONFIRM THIS BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD IT FOR MYSELF
| BUT
| >> > I'VE TALKED TO OTHER USERS OF THIS RECORDER AND THEY SAY IT
| "CLIPS"
| >> > VERY EASILY, THAT BEING THE CASE THEN THIS IS BAD AS THERE IS
| NO
| >> > REASON WHY THIS SHOULD HAPPEN WITH A digital recording device.
| >> >
| >> > On 01/02/2007, at 6:44 PM, albert griffith wrote:
| >> >
| >> > Dane, thanks
| >> > ----- Original Message -----
| >> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <danetrethowan at iprimus.com.au>
| >> > To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
| >> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:31 AM
| >> > Subject: [gui-talk] Olympus recorders
| >> >
| >> >
| >> > | since this seems to be a hot topic right now, I thought I'd
| mention
| >> > | that you'll find another review in 2 parts at
| >> > | http://www.blindcooltech.com
| >> > |
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