[gui-talk] An accesible terminal at long last

Fri Dec 7 12:38:22 CST 2007

Dane,

Thank you very much for your reply.  It was very helpful.

I find your posts extremely valuable.  Actually, I just want to play a bit 
and keep the brain active trying to learn a new operating system.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane at iprimus.com.au>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] An accesible terminal at long last

> Yes it can but its certainly not recommended and you cannot install
> the standard edition of Leopard onto a PC, it has to be hacked and
> cracked but I have seen it done yes.
> The person I know who did it experienced a whole heap of problems, one
> of the nice things about Mac systems is that all the hardware you use
> just works straight out of the box, plug it in and there you go and
> that's because the Apple engineers know exactly what they're writing
> hardware drivers for but in the PC world things are drastically
> different as there are hundreds upon thousands of devices out there
> which have drivers of their own and this is where Leopard for the PC
> can stumble to a halt as it may not recognise many hardware devices on
> a standard PC.
> The other problem encountered is that Leopard for the PC cannot be
> updated because of the hacks and cracks that were applied, this
> changes the software code significantly so updates cannot be applied.
> Now just changing subject if I may and this would seem an appropriate
> time to do so, some list members have written to me asking me what
> sort of Mac machines are available. Well they fall into 4 categories,
> the Mac Mini, the Imac, the Macbook and Macbook Pro and the Mac pro.
> The Mac Mini is the cheapest of the range, its about the size of a
> dual-CD case and is available in a variety of configurations, I'd
> probably recommend this one for people just starting out and who don't
> want to put a lot of money into their new computer, its small but yet
> powerful.
> The Imac is the "all-in-one" desktop machine, I have one in front of
> me here and it looks exactly like a flat panel LCD  display but behind
> the display is a fully-fled computer and a whole heap of built-in
> features like Wi-Fi compatibility, blue tooth connectivity, infra red
> connectivity etc., I won't list all the things this unit has because
> it will probably complicate the message a bit.
> The Macbook and Macbook Pro category are Notebook computers, I have a
> Macbook, the second from the bottom and its the best notebook I've
> ever used both with Leopard and Fusion running a virtual Windows
> machine. The Macbook Pro has slightly higher performance specs but for
> those using speech I don't think you're going to get much more out of
> a Macbook Pro than you would a Macbook.
> The Mac Pro is (if you like) a "PC look-a-like" in that it comes in a
> tower case and this machine is the most powerful in Apples range
> boasting 4 dual-processor chips (8 processors in all) and storage
> capacity of up to 12 terabytes so if you're planning to set up a TV
> station or you want to take a trip to Mars next year then this device
> will help you accomplish all these tasks <smile> but I envy anyone who
> has one of these machines very much so and may you enjoy it.
> As a final note, all the Mac line now feature Intel Cor Duo chips and
> all will run Windows in a variety of ways from the Bootcamp method
> which Apple supply to using Windows as a virtual machine with third
> party applications such as Fusion, Parallels etc.
> For pricing details on the various Mac models available then go and
> visit http://www.apple.com or suffix this address with the particular
> model you're interested in, for example http://www.apple.com/imac/
> will take you directly to the Imac computer pages.
>
> On 08/12/2007, at 4:30 AM, James Shaker wrote:
>
>> I understand that leopard can be installed on a PC..Have you done
>> that?  If
>> so, how did it work?
>>
>> Jim
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane at iprimus.com.au>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:00 AM
>> Subject: [gui-talk] An accesible terminal at long last
>>
>>
>>> Ok, well another thing which I'm extremely happy about under Leopard
>>> is how accessible the terminal now seems to be. The terminal is found
>>> in the Utilities folder under the Applications folder and this
>>> utility
>>> allows you access to the "BSD" curnal of Leopard.
>>> BSD is a form of LINUX, yes Leopard is based on LINUX but its
>>> cleverly
>>> hidden through the Leopard Graphical User Interface. Having the
>>> terminal accessible like this has made me more interested in "BSD"
>>> than I ever have been, just like the old DOS command-line days when
>>> writing batch files was a bundle of joy <smile>. BSD doesn't call
>>> them
>>> batch files any more, they're called scripts and they're more
>>> powerful
>>> than the humble batch file under MS DOS ever was.
>>> So we have the best of two worlds with Leopard, an  intuitive and yet
>>> powerful graphical user interface and the power and flexibility of
>>> the
>>> terminal and BSD.
>>>
>>>
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