[gui-talk] wireless access

Thu Apr 19 13:44:59 CDT 2007

So if you upgrade to Vista, it comes with a built-in voice recognition 
program so you don't have to go out and buy one, as we used to say in bricks 
and mortar retail times? If you're a Jaws user, does it require this J-Say 
program in order to use it, also? I don't know anything about this stuff, 
and I never heard anyone explain what J-Say does and what a Jaws person 
needs it for. Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Oppermann" <chuckop at exchange.microsoft.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] wireless access

6-10 hours of training is excessive.  The latest versions of Naturally 
Speaking and Windows Speech Recognition (included with Windows Vista) 
usually can do a very proficient job with just 10-20 minutes of training. 
Windows Speech Recognition combines a tutorial while training, so you learn 
about the product as you go.

--Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:35 PM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] wireless access

Though there are programs for speech recognition like the mainstream Dragon
Naturally Speaking, and the more blind friendly Jay-Say, which works as a go
between with Dragon and JAWS, these can be very expensive. Also, there's a
fair amount of training with the program to recognize your voice, and making
corrections as appropriate. In other words, you can't just pick up the mike
and start talking when you get the program. I knew people who trained in
Dragon alone, and that took at least 6-10 hours total before the program
started to recognize someone's voice. That said though, I've heard that with
the Jay-Say solution, you can become quite proficient. It will simply take
some time.

In other words, while it might seem appealing to talk to your computer,
you'll get better results in the short run by simply using the keyboard,
wireless or otherwise.

Jmt,
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Oppermann" <chuckop at exchange.microsoft.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] wireless access

> Using your voice as the sole input mechanism when using speech output is a
> difficult task.  One of the problems is input accuracy.  As you speak, the
> system will mis-recognize occasionally, putting in words or phrases you
> didn't intend.  There is a correction user interface that is similar in
> concept to spell checkers.
>
> The keyboard is the most accurate input mechanism, and I would hazard a
> guess that is even true more so for blind and low-vision users.  It's my
> opinion that a screen reader user who can use a keyboard will find it a
> less frustrating.
>
> A major part of my work at Microsoft is on speech recognition (and speech
> output), so I would be interested in any of your own experiences.
>
> Charles Oppermann | Program Manager | Speech Components | Microsoft
> Corporation
> http://blogs.msdn.com/chuckop/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of slery
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:15 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] wireless access
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.  I did a google search for the rf headset and
> found a sight that is dedicated to voice recognition.  There are quite a
> few
> different options so I'm still looking and realistically I can't spend the
> $200-300 that many of them are listed for.
>
> I haven't actually delved into speech recognition yet but I've listened to
> a
> couple of writers that regularly use it and then a couple of other people
> that use it access things like email from other parts of their house.  If
> anyone has had any experience and wishes to share it with me, please do so
> off-list at:
>
> slerythema at insightbb.com
>
> Thanks,
> Cindy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of David Andrews
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:33 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] wireless access
>
>
> I think the maximum for Bluetooth is 30 feet, and the practical limitation
> is probably less.
>
> Dave
>
> At 11:25 PM 4/16/2007, you wrote:
>>Is there any way to access my computer wirelessly through some type of
>>headset and microphone as far away as my back yard?
>>
>>This cannot be done with my current bluetooth headset and I doubt
>>bluetooth
>>is the answer for this situation.  I am wanting to use speech commands to
>>access my computer while I am upstairs or on the back patio.
>>
>>TIA,
>>Cindy
>>
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