[gui-talk] home network problem

Tue Apr 10 11:09:13 CDT 2007

So were you able to resolve the problem?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bob jutzi" <jutzi at windstream.net>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] home network problem


> If his new system runs Vista, and his old one runs XP, I ran into a
> similar problem trying to network my newer Vista machine to an old
> 1.1ghz which runs XP.  My primary Vista machine, known to my network as
> Bilbo, was able to recognize my secondary XP machine, known to the
> network as Frodo; however, I was unable to access Bilbo from Frodo so
> this could be a querk in networking vista and XP machines.
>
> Steve Jacobson wrote:
>> It sounds to me as though somehow the old computer is configured to have 
>> the IP address set manually.  The IP address which identifies all your 
>> computers to the
>> network is unique for each computer on your network and it is generally 
>> different than the IP address expected by your cable modem.  In effect, 
>> all of your network
>> has one IP address known to your cable company, and your router keeps 
>> track of all of the different IP addresses on your network and routes 
>> everything to the right
>> place.  It sounds to me as though your old computer is set to use the IP 
>> address expected by your cable modem.  That address will not be 
>> recognized when going
>> through the router.  He needs to be sure that his old computer is 
>> configured to have the address automatically assigned, which means it 
>> uses DHCP, or he needs to
>> assign a manual address within the range of addresses recognized by his 
>> router.  It is pretty hard to give more specific advice from long 
>> distance, though, and it
>> almost sounds to me as though a piece of the puzzle may be missing as 
>> well.  Where he should look for such settings varies some depending upon 
>> the version of
>> the operating system he is using, so it is hard to be more specific. 
>> However, the fact that his old computer does work on the cable modem and 
>> the new computer
>> works on any of the router ports says that the problem is likely a 
>> setting on the old computer and that his hardware is working all right.
>>
>> This is grasping at straws a little, but he might also temporarily turn 
>> off any firewalls on his old computer.  Clearly he should not do this 
>> permanently, but it is remotely
>> possible that the firewall is interfering with the changes.
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 07:45:08 -0500, Arliedog wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yes the new computer works fine on all ports.  The old computer doesn't 
>>> work
>>> on any ports but works fine plugged directly into the cable modem.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] home network problem
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Does his new computer work on all of the router ports?  Knowing this 
>>>> would
>>>> tell us that the router is likely functioning all
>>>> right.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes the network cable between the router and the modem is 
>>>> different
>>>> than the other cables.  The ends will feel
>>>> the same but the cable conductors are connected differently.  They are
>>>> usually a different color.  Since some devices
>>>> will automatically sense the correct connection and some won't, he 
>>>> should
>>>> check his cables.  If one is a different color,
>>>> he should use that one to connect between the modem and the router.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, one port on a router is a DMZ port which means that it is
>>>> pretty much a direct connection to the modem.
>>>> These ports are often there for people who do heavy gaming on the
>>>> internet.  Normally you don't use this port or you turn
>>>> it off.  However, doing this may require changes to the firewall.
>>>>
>>>> Finally how does he assign the IP addresses for the computers?  They 
>>>> can
>>>> be assigned manually or dynamically, which
>>>> means that the router will assign them.  If they are assigned manually, 
>>>> he
>>>> might need to make sure that the assignments
>>>> are correct.  If one is assigned manually and the other automatically,
>>>> there is the possibility of a conflict, although it can
>>>> be avoided.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:58:47 -0500, Arliedog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My son is at a loss as to what the problem is with a home network he 
>>>>> is
>>>>> trying to
>>>>> expand.
>>>>> To start with he has a Belkin wireless router which also has four 
>>>>> ports
>>>>> connected
>>>>> to a cable modem.  He had one computer cabled to the router that 
>>>>> worked
>>>>> fine and
>>>>> was able to use his notebook through the wireless.  Everything worked
>>>>> great.  Well
>>>>> this weekend he received his new Dell computer so he decided to move 
>>>>> one
>>>>> computer
>>>>> to another room and hook both desktops to the router through two of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> ports.  His
>>>>> new computer had no problem connecting to the net but now his old 
>>>>> computer
>>>>> can not
>>>>> establish a connection.
>>>>> He has tried the following with no success.
>>>>> He unplugged the new computer and lleft the old one plugged into the
>>>>> router and still
>>>>> no connection.
>>>>> He plugged his old computer directly into the cable modem and it 
>>>>> worked
>>>>> great.
>>>>> He tried to re install the software on the old computer and the setup
>>>>> failed saying
>>>>> failed connection.
>>>>> He called Belkin and they blamed his computer although it was working 
>>>>> fine
>>>>> before
>>>>> adding the new computer to the router.
>>>>> He has moved the cables around to all available ports on the router as
>>>>> well as switching cables.
>>>>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
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