[gui-talk] Windows CE, Symbain Wide Open to Attack

W. Nick Dotson nickdotson at bellsouth.net
Sat Oct 14 20:28:47 CDT 2006 

Yes, it pertains to "ce", perhaps editorial, but you'd have to work at obtuseness to miss the point.

Nick

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:50:48 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:

 Nick,

 Are your replies, like the one below, actually responses to my immediately 
 preceding message?  It doesn't seem so.
 responsi----- OriFrom: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson at bellsouth.net>
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 Naw.  MicroSoft thought they had an operating system they could get together 
 with broad band providers such as cable, and phone companies, and sell
 downloadable movies, plus all kinds of other web-based services through that 
 broadband conduit, using boxes hooked to TV sets, so the dumb end-user
 wouldn't really know he/she was using a permutation of the good ole home 
 computer...

 Nick

 On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:14:18 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:

  I'm guessing this is meant to be teasing?  I don't understand any of it.
  Which means, sorry to say, I can't recognize enough of what I'm guessing 
 I'm
  supposed to laugh at.  Oh, well.  Nice to hear from you, Nick, and hope
  everything's going well for you.
  figure out if I'm ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson at bellsouth.net>
  To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Windows CE, Symbain Wide Open to Attack


  Originally, and maybe still, MicroSquish saw/sees a conjunction between 
 home
  entertainment and Home Computing and the Internet as a route for
  descimination of media to a home entertainment environment, sound video and
  the like.  "CE" for imbedded systems and stuff was to be that OS.

  Nick

  On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:07:07 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:

   Hi Nick,

   What does "setp top" mean?  Does all this equate, roughtly, with saying
  that
   these to things, Windows CE and Sinbaine, are what I've heard called the
   "firmware" of such devices?
   hose
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson at bellsouth.net>
   To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
   Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:03 AM
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   A set top version of the Windows OS on which devices such as the
  BrailleNote
   family of devices run, as well as many sub-notebooks Etc...

   Nick

   On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:58:52 -0700, Joel Deutsch wrote:

    What is Windows CE?

    thanks.

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    From: "Christopher McMillan" <chrismcmillan at earthlink.net>
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    Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:40 PM
    Subject: [gui-talk] Windows CE, Symbain Wide Open to Attack


    Windows CE, Symbian wide open to attack


    Growing number of vulnerabilities turning up in both platforms

    John E. Dunn   Today's Top Stories    or  Other Security Stories
    October 13, 2006 (IDG News Service) -- Windows CE is at an especially 
 high
    risk of attack according to a new analysis of malware threats.
    Kaspersky Lab researcher Alexander Gostev has produced the report, it
  which
    it is noted that the mobile version of Windows remains wide open to
   software
    exploits compared to desktop versions, and allows easy programming access
   to
    core operating system functions.
    Gostev refers to the growing number of vulnerabilities that have affected
    the platform, starting with the Duts proof-of-concept virus of 2004 that
   was
    able to exploit a security hole unknown to Microsoft, making it a 
 zero-day
    flaw. "There's no doubt that these vulnerabilities exist. The question is
    only who will detect them first - a virus writer, or a white hat security
    researcher," said Gotsev. "The main environment used to develop malicious
    programs will be .Net, and a significant number of these viruses will
    exploit vulnerabilities in Windows CE."

    Although rival Symbian is a harder platform on which to create native
    malware -- programmers require expensive tools to build Symbian
    applications -- Gotsev is almost as scathing on its security design.

    He details a newly documented and verified vulnerability that would allow
   an
    attacker to cause a denial-of-service on a Symbian system simply by
  sending
    a small file capable of choking the Web browser, thereby slowing it down.
    "Even a cursory glance and a few simple experiments reveal that Symbian 
 is
    riddled with errors," he said.


    To date, mobile malware and exploits -- which typically spread using a
    mobile device's Bluetooth connection -- have been a mostly theoretical
    issue, prompting some to question their significance.

    But the pessimism surrounding Symbian seems justified. In 2005, the
    TrojanDoombot.A , which harbored the Commwarrior.B worm, went turned up 
 to
    bother a small number of Symbian Series 60 devices. More recently, the
  worm
    Commwarrior.Q hit the platform again.

    Reprinted with permission from

    For more news from IDG visit IDG.net
    Story copyright 2006 International Data Group. All rights reserved.


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