[gui-talk] avoiding IE 7 for the time being

Fri Nov 17 09:42:37 CST 2006

Joel, as per the previous reply I sent you regarding this matter, if you
ahve automatic updates turned on for your windows xp computer you will
be prompted as to whether you want to install IE 7 or not.
If your setting is set to download the updates but not install them
automatically the IE setup files will be download to the computer and
you will be prompted as outlined in my first email.
With the hd size in most of today's modern computers disk space used by
the IE install files is negligable, it likely less than 1%, so I'd say
any disk space concerns are irrelevant.
Thanks and hth - Ed.

Ed Barnes
Computer Support Specialist (education)
Office Of Chief Information Officer - Government of Nl
c/o Dept of Education, Confederation Building, 3rd floor, west.
PO Box 8700 St. John's, NL A1B 4J6
Ph 709-729-6999 / Fx 709-729-5896
edbarnes at gov.nl.ca

>>> jdeutsch at dslextreme.com 11/17 11:25 AM >>>
Steve,
I don't understand the distinction you seem to be making between
downloading 
and installing IE7, and introducing the consideration of how large a
file it 
might be.  My concern isn't saving hard drive space; besides, I've
already 
been to the page and read the description of the IE 7 download, and
it's x 
number of megabytes and there's plenty of room on my computer for it
and so 
forth.

back to what I began to say, which is, you know, most of these patches,
once 
you click on the button to "get" them, both download and install
themselves 
without your doing anything more.  So may I infer that what you're
implying 
here is that, with IE7, it will download along with everything else in
the 
batch, but at the point before it actually installs itself, that's when
the 
dialogue comes up allowing you to decline installation?  So that's why
it 
occurred to you to reassure me that you didn't think it was necessarily
a 
huge file (which it is, actually, compared to the little patches,
though I 
don't care)?  You're saying "You'll be given a chance to stop the 
installation, and at that point the browser file has already been 
downloaded, but don't worry, I don't think it's too much a waste of
hard 
drive space."  Is that what you meant?

thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] avoiding IE 7 for the time being

Joel,

We have been told that, unlike other updates, if you download Internet

Explorer 7, you will get an additional prompt before the installation
runs 
that allows you to
cancel.  Also, depending upon which approach you are using to do your 
updates, you might be able to deselect the IE 7 download with the space
bar 
or mouse, but
as I understand it, this is not necessary to get the warning.  I have
seen 
this information from several places, but Chuck Opperman of Microsoft
has 
posted
something to this effect here earlier so I feel confident it is
accurate. 
The IE 7 download could be large, but in the past, IE downloads have 
sometimes been small
programs which, in turn, grabbed what they needed from the web during
the 
installation process.  Therefore, downloading IE when you do not intend
to 
install it may
not be a big deal.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:57:46 -0800, Joel Deutsch wrote:

>Hi all,
>I'm using XP Home w/SP 2, IE 6 and Jaws 7.0.  I understand that I
could
>install IE 7 and use it successfully with Jaws if I were to upgrade to
Jaws
>7.1 and add to that a patch that's being offered from the Freedom 
>Scientific
>site to enable version 7.1 to support it.

>But rather than go to all that trouble, especially because a lot of
>subscribers to the JFW list have reported having issues with Jaws
7.1,I've
>decided simply to wait for the release of Jaws 8.0, which is said to
be IE7
>ready.

>So far, so good, I thought.  But  just now, realizing that the latest
>Windows  critical updates were probably ready a couple of days ago, I
went
>to the critical updates site and looked over the available stuff. 
And
>here's the problem:  there are quite a lot of critical updates
available
>this month, including of course IE 7, which has been included as
everyone
>knows because Microsoft has endowed it with some major security
features.

>Well, ordinarily I just use the button that selects and downloads all
the
>critical updates, once I look them over and determine that there
aren't any
>that say they're going to modify video and possibly screw up Jaws, as
>happened once to me when I had automatic updates turned on and had
not
>restricted it to critical updates.  I know there shouldn't be any
>video-related stuff in critical updates, but I always look now,
anyway.
>Better safe than sorry.

>but if I use that group download control this time, it'll include IE 7

>among
>the downloads.  Yet I really don't want to take the time it would
require
>using Jaws instead of eyes and a mouse to go from one update to the
other ,
>downloading them individually except for IE7 (which makes me wonder
why 
>they
>don't set this up with check boxes, for God's sake?).

>So, long story short, I remember some talk about there being a tool of
some
>sort that's going around that can allow you to download critical
updates 
>and
>avoid getting IE7 in the process.  I need to learn about this now,
where to
>get it, how to do all this.

>Can anyone help?  Sorry not to have been paying attention before.

>Thanks.

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