[gui-talk] avoiding IE 7 for the time being

Fri Nov 17 08:55:36 CST 2006

Steve,
I don't understand the distinction you seem to be making between downloading 
and installing IE7, and introducing the consideration of how large a file it 
might be.  My concern isn't saving hard drive space; besides, I've already 
been to the page and read the description of the IE 7 download, and it's x 
number of megabytes and there's plenty of room on my computer for it and so 
forth.

back to what I began to say, which is, you know, most of these patches, once 
you click on the button to "get" them, both download and install themselves 
without your doing anything more.  So may I infer that what you're implying 
here is that, with IE7, it will download along with everything else in the 
batch, but at the point before it actually installs itself, that's when the 
dialogue comes up allowing you to decline installation?  So that's why it 
occurred to you to reassure me that you didn't think it was necessarily a 
huge file (which it is, actually, compared to the little patches, though I 
don't care)?  You're saying "You'll be given a chance to stop the 
installation, and at that point the browser file has already been 
downloaded, but don't worry, I don't think it's too much a waste of hard 
drive space."  Is that what you meant?

thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] avoiding IE 7 for the time being

Joel,

We have been told that, unlike other updates, if you download Internet 
Explorer 7, you will get an additional prompt before the installation runs 
that allows you to
cancel.  Also, depending upon which approach you are using to do your 
updates, you might be able to deselect the IE 7 download with the space bar 
or mouse, but
as I understand it, this is not necessary to get the warning.  I have seen 
this information from several places, but Chuck Opperman of Microsoft has 
posted
something to this effect here earlier so I feel confident it is accurate. 
The IE 7 download could be large, but in the past, IE downloads have 
sometimes been small
programs which, in turn, grabbed what they needed from the web during the 
installation process.  Therefore, downloading IE when you do not intend to 
install it may
not be a big deal.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:57:46 -0800, Joel Deutsch wrote:

>Hi all,
>I'm using XP Home w/SP 2, IE 6 and Jaws 7.0.  I understand that I could
>install IE 7 and use it successfully with Jaws if I were to upgrade to Jaws
>7.1 and add to that a patch that's being offered from the Freedom 
>Scientific
>site to enable version 7.1 to support it.

>But rather than go to all that trouble, especially because a lot of
>subscribers to the JFW list have reported having issues with Jaws 7.1,I've
>decided simply to wait for the release of Jaws 8.0, which is said to be IE7
>ready.

>So far, so good, I thought.  But  just now, realizing that the latest
>Windows  critical updates were probably ready a couple of days ago, I went
>to the critical updates site and looked over the available stuff.  And
>here's the problem:  there are quite a lot of critical updates available
>this month, including of course IE 7, which has been included as everyone
>knows because Microsoft has endowed it with some major security features.

>Well, ordinarily I just use the button that selects and downloads all the
>critical updates, once I look them over and determine that there aren't any
>that say they're going to modify video and possibly screw up Jaws, as
>happened once to me when I had automatic updates turned on and had not
>restricted it to critical updates.  I know there shouldn't be any
>video-related stuff in critical updates, but I always look now, anyway.
>Better safe than sorry.

>but if I use that group download control this time, it'll include IE 7 
>among
>the downloads.  Yet I really don't want to take the time it would require
>using Jaws instead of eyes and a mouse to go from one update to the other ,
>downloading them individually except for IE7 (which makes me wonder why 
>they
>don't set this up with check boxes, for God's sake?).

>So, long story short, I remember some talk about there being a tool of some
>sort that's going around that can allow you to download critical updates 
>and
>avoid getting IE7 in the process.  I need to learn about this now, where to
>get it, how to do all this.

>Can anyone help?  Sorry not to have been paying attention before.

>Thanks.

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