[gui-talk] Fwd: some jaws7.1 goodies, ahem, people may not have seen!

[W. Nick Dotson]

Incorrect!  7.1 has been out of beta for about a week.

Nick

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:48:42 -0400, albertpgriffith wrote:

 I believe 7.1 is in beta.  Therefore, there are supposed to be bugs.
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Anthony Vece" <ajvece at verizon.net>
 To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
 Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:27 AM
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 > As I said, Jaws 7.1 has more bugs in it than palmetto bugs in St.
 > Petersburg.
 >
 > It really is a disgrace.
 >
 > The only reason why I am keeping JAWS is because I got it for nothing and 
 > I
 > can't be bothered putting up with pressing wrong key strokes in 
 > WindowEyes.
 >
 > However, I really believe that all these companies should be held to 
 > higher
 > standards.
 > \
 > I am really not trying to bash Freedom Scientific however, it is obvious
 > that they are just not concerned with the quality of there product or
 > customer satisfaction.
 >
 > Anthony
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: "Steve Pattison" <srp at internode.on.net>
 > To: "GUI Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Access-L" <access-l at access-l.com>
 > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:32 PM
 > Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: some jaws7.1 goodies, ahem, people may not have
 > seen!
 >
 >
 >>
 >>>From: Geoff Chapman gch at internode.net.au
 >>>To: vision impaired persons list vip-l at softspeak.com.au
 >>>
 >>>from the website:
 >>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinList.cfmQC=1081>
 >>>
 >>>there's a lot more here than I've posted, and to me, it's a good place to
 >>>start for all the real good dope on jaws stuff. you find some real gems
 >>>browsing in here.
 >>>whether they're polished gems or old sandstone, is of course, open to
 >>>subjective interpretation! <smile.>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Question:
 >>>
 >>>Why can't I use my PlaceMarkers from an earlier version of JAWS with JAWS
 >>>7.10 or later?
 >>>
 >>>Answer:
 >>>
 >>>PlaceMarkers created with JAWS 7.0 and earlier are not compatible with
 >>>JAWS
 >>>7.10 or later, due to internal changes. Similarly, JAWS 7.10 PlaceMarkers
 >>>are
 >>>not compatible with JAWS 7.0 or earlier.
 >>>
 >>>If you copy PlaceMarker files from an earlier version of JAWS into your
 >>>JAWS
 >>>7.10 user settings PlaceMarkers folder, the PlaceMarkers do not appear in
 >>>the
 >>>CTRL+SHIFT+K PlaceMarker list. You also cannot use the Navigation Quick
 >>>Key
 >>>K to move to the PlaceMarkers.
 >>>
 >>>You must recreate your PlaceMarkers for the Web sites you visit in order
 >>>to
 >>>use them with JAWS 7.10.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>bc: hooly dooly! unbelievable!
 >>>saw absolutely no reference to this at all on the whatsnew for 7.1 page!
 >>><large sigh.>
 >>>
 >>>that's a pretty sad downer, especially since it appears their internal
 >>>changes that have now apparently broken any earlier place markers one
 >>>may've
 >>>had, when using 7.10,
 >>>have not even addressed the seeming non ability to create a place marker,
 >>>directly, on top of an edit box field. such that you could then hit k to
 >>>jump to it, and straight away hit enter to enter forms mode and start
 >>>typing! grumph! i really hoped they were gunna fix that.
 >>><guess I should've reported it then eh. thought others might though.
 >>><sigh.>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Category: Microsoft Word
 >>>
 >>>In Microsoft Word, if I use M or SHIFT+M to move to a misspelled word, 
 >>>why
 >>>is the entire word automatically selected?
 >>>
 >>>Answer:
 >>>
 >>>In Microsoft word, if you turn on the JAWS Navigation Quick Keys
 >>>(INSERT+Z),
 >>>you can use M or SHIFT+M to navigate the document by misspelled word.
 >>>
 >>>Microsoft's documentation states that to move to the next/prior
 >>>proofreading
 >>>item in the document you must use one of the GoTo functions. Then, once
 >>>the
 >>>range is obtained, you must manually select that range. This, in turn,
 >>>causes it to be selected with the cursor on the first character of the
 >>>selection.
 >>>There is an advantage to having it selected: you can either leave Quick
 >>>nav
 >>>mode and type over the word or better yet, you can press the application
 >>>key
 >>>and land in the context menu to then choose to view suggestions for the
 >>>selected word.
 >>>
 >>>Unselecting the text prevents further movement forward or backward 
 >>>through
 >>>the document. The only way found at this time to do it consistently is to
 >>>leave
 >>>the item selected.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>for jaws versions 4x plus?
 >>>(that's what it says for below,)
 >>>
 >>>Category: JAVA
 >>>
 >>>Short Description:
 >>>
 >>>Some Java Swing applications are not compatible with the newer Access
 >>>Bridge
 >>>2.0.
 >>>
 >>>Problem:
 >>>
 >>>After updating Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 1.42_x with Access Bridge
 >>>(AB)
 >>>1.2, to JRE 1.50_x and Access Bridge 2.0, the JAVA Swing UI application 
 >>>no
 >>>longer works with JAWS.
 >>>
 >>>Solution:
 >>>
 >>>You may need to uninstall Java 1.5.x and Sun Access Bridge 2.0 completely
 >>>and reinstall Java 1.4.x with Access Bridge 1.x in order to use the
 >>>application
 >>>with JAWS.
 >>>
 >>>Since JAWS uses WindowsAccessBridge.DLL, this .DLL file will not be
 >>>removed
 >>>properly if you are running JAWS while uninstalling SUN's Access Bridge
 >>>2.0.
 >>>For speech accessibility while uninstalling Java Access Bridge 2.0, you
 >>>must
 >>>shutdown JAWS and start Windows Narrator (WINDOWS Key+U). This allows
 >>>WindowsAccessBridge.DLL
 >>>to be removed from the system32 folder in Windows.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Version: 5.10 plus
 >>>
 >>>Category: Microsoft Outlook
 >>>
 >>>Question:
 >>>
 >>>Why can't I see the closed state of items in the Outlook 2003 mailbox 
 >>>tree
 >>>view?
 >>>
 >>>Answer:
 >>>
 >>>Based on our research and testing, we believe this issue is caused by a
 >>>flaw
 >>>in Microsoft's implementation of MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility). 
 >>>In
 >>>Outlook 2003, there is no way to distinguish between a closed folder and 
 >>>a
 >>>folder that has no subfolders. If JAWS announces, "Closed," for a folder
 >>>with
 >>>multiple subfolders, it also reports, "Closed," for folders that do not
 >>>have
 >>>subfolders.
 >>>
 >>>This may be resolved in a future version of Microsoft Office.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Version: 7.10 plus
 >>>
 >>>Category: Installation
 >>>
 >>>Question:
 >>>
 >>>Why can't I see the state of the options in the tree view during a custom
 >>>install?
 >>>
 >>>Answer:
 >>>
 >>>If Microsoft Narrator starts and then stops during a custom JAWS
 >>>installation, the Windows Screen Reader flag is not activated. As a 
 >>>result
 >>>of this, some
 >>>Windows controls, such as tree view items, do not report if they were
 >>>correctly installed.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Version: Any
 >>>
 >>>Category: MSAA
 >>>
 >>>Short Description:
 >>>
 >>>Quitting Microsoft Narrator while JAWS is running causes Microsoft Active
 >>>Accessibility (MSAA) controls to be incorrectly reported to JAWS.
 >>>
 >>>Problem:
 >>>
 >>>If you quit Microsoft Narrator while JAWS is running, the Windows Screen
 >>>Reader flag is turned off. This results in problems with MSAA reporting
 >>>incomplete
 >>>information when JAWS queries dialog controls that provide MSAA
 >>>information.
 >>>For example checkable items in a tree view may not state their on/off
 >>>state
 >>>or may not indicate that they are checked or unchecked.
 >>>
 >>>Solution:
 >>>
 >>>If you quit Microsoft Narrator while running JAWS, and you find that MSAA
 >>>controls are no longer reporting the correct information, quit and 
 >>>restart
 >>>JAWS.
 >>>The Screen Reader flag turns on when JAWS starts.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Product Name: JAWS
 >>>
 >>>Version: 5.10 plus
 >>>
 >>>Category: Video
 >>>
 >>>Short Description:
 >>>
 >>>JAWS may become stuck in a reboot loop at startup, or a "Catastrophic
 >>>Failure" error message may appear.
 >>>
 >>>Problem:
 >>>
 >>>Because JAWS, MAGic and OpenBook cannot hook the JAWSVID DCM video
 >>>intercept
 >>>if two video drivers are installed, when installing, the software may
 >>>become
 >>>stuck in a reboot loop at startup, or a "Catastrophic Failure" error
 >>>message
 >>>may appear. Some computer manufacturers, including Dell and HP, ship 
 >>>their
 >>>computers with one physical video card installed, but include two
 >>>different
 >>>video drivers. This is done so that they can use the same operating 
 >>>system
 >>>image for multiple computer models. Freedom Scientific products cannot
 >>>hook
 >>>the JAWSVID DCM video intercept if two video drivers are installed.
 >>>
 >>>This only affects Windows XP, Windows 2000 Pro, Windows 2000 Server,
 >>>Windows
 >>>2000 Advanced Server, and Windows 2003 Server.
 >>>
 >>>The following symptoms may indicate if you are affected by this problem:
 >>>
 >>>* While installing or uninstalling a Freedom Scientific product, you are
 >>>continually prompted to reboot the computer. The install/uninstall 
 >>>process
 >>>does
 >>>not continue due to the reboot prompts.
 >>>
 >>>* The Freedom Scientific product is properly installed, but when you
 >>>launch
 >>>it, you constantly receive a notification to hook the DCM video 
 >>>intercept.
 >>>You
 >>>hook the video intercept and reboot; however, each time you start the
 >>>Freedom Scientific product, you are again prompted to rehook the video
 >>>intercept.
 >>>
 >>>Solution:
 >>>
 >>>If you experience any of the problems described with JAWS, MAGic,
 >>>OpenBook,
 >>>or Connect Outloud, check the list of video drivers found in Device
 >>>Manager.
 >>>If more than one is present, determine which of the installed video
 >>>drivers
 >>>listed does not apply to your currently installed physical hardware, and
 >>>uninstall
 >>>it. Reboot your computer after removing the video driver. Once you have
 >>>uninstalled the unwanted video driver, reboot the system.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Date Posted: 03/10/2006
 >>>
 >>>Product Name: JAWS
 >>>
 >>>Version: 7.0 plus
 >>>
 >>>Category: Synthesizer
 >>>
 >>>Short Description:
 >>>
 >>>JAWS crashes when you change to VoiceWare SAPI synthesizers.
 >>>
 >>>Problem:
 >>>
 >>>You can use the VoiceWare Paul and Kate voices with Kurzweil 1000 V10, 
 >>>but
 >>>you must first set your synthesizer to SAPI 5 in JAWS before choosing the
 >>>VW
 >>>Paul or Kate voices. If you run JAWS as a service, JAWS will stop
 >>>responding
 >>>after this change.
 >>>
 >>>Solution:
 >>>
 >>>If you want to use a VoiceWare synthesizer as your default synthesizer,
 >>>run
 >>>JAWS as an application.
 >>>
 >>>To run JAWS as an application:
 >>>1. Choose Options from the menu bar in JAWS.
 >>>2. Choose Basics in the submenu.
 >>>3. Tab to the "Automatically start JAWS" check box and uncheck it.
 >>>
 >>>You must start JAWS manually when you start your computer. You can use a
 >>>shortcut key or launch JAWS from the run dialog by typing "JAWS70" or
 >>>"JAWS7."
 >>>
 >>>You can now use the VoiceWare Paul or VoiceWare Kate voices. If you 
 >>>switch
 >>>to a non-VoiceWare synthesizer, you can run JAWS as a service.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>Version: 6.0 plus
 >>>
 >>>Category: Authorization
 >>>
 >>>Short Description:
 >>>
 >>>Braille flash messages disappear too quickly to read when you press LEFT
 >>>or
 >>>RIGHT ARROW in a marked-up Word document.
 >>>
 >>>Problem:
 >>>
 >>>If you are using braille and you read through a marked-up Word document,
 >>>Flash Messages appear on your braille display. These messages contain
 >>>information
 >>>about what type of editing was performed and/or who performed the 
 >>>editing.
 >>>If you press LEFT or RIGHT ARROW, the flash messages do not remain on the
 >>>display
 >>>long enough to read.
 >>>
 >>>Solution:
 >>>
 >>>Pressing INSERT+TAB will cause the Flash Message to appear again. This
 >>>time,
 >>>the message will remain on the display long enough to read.
 >>
 >> Regards Steve
 >> Email:  srp at internode.on.net
 >> Skype:  steve1963
 >> MSN Messenger:  internetuser383 at hotmail.com
 >>
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