[gui-talk] Fwd: some jaws7.1 goodies, ahem, people may not have seen!

Mon Jun 26 08:48:42 CDT 2006

I believe 7.1 is in beta.  Therefore, there are supposed to be bugs.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Vece" <ajvece at verizon.net>
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Fwd: some jaws7.1 goodies, ahem,people may not have 
seen!


> As I said, Jaws 7.1 has more bugs in it than palmetto bugs in St.
> Petersburg.
>
> It really is a disgrace.
>
> The only reason why I am keeping JAWS is because I got it for nothing and 
> I
> can't be bothered putting up with pressing wrong key strokes in 
> WindowEyes.
>
> However, I really believe that all these companies should be held to 
> higher
> standards.
> \
> I am really not trying to bash Freedom Scientific however, it is obvious
> that they are just not concerned with the quality of there product or
> customer satisfaction.
>
> Anthony
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Pattison" <srp at internode.on.net>
> To: "GUI Talk" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Access-L" <access-l at access-l.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:32 PM
> Subject: [gui-talk] Fwd: some jaws7.1 goodies, ahem, people may not have
> seen!
>
>
>>
>>>From: Geoff Chapman gch at internode.net.au
>>>To: vision impaired persons list vip-l at softspeak.com.au
>>>
>>>from the website:
>>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinList.cfmQC=1081>
>>>
>>>there's a lot more here than I've posted, and to me, it's a good place to
>>>start for all the real good dope on jaws stuff. you find some real gems
>>>browsing in here.
>>>whether they're polished gems or old sandstone, is of course, open to
>>>subjective interpretation! <smile.>
>>>
>>>
>>>Question:
>>>
>>>Why can't I use my PlaceMarkers from an earlier version of JAWS with JAWS
>>>7.10 or later?
>>>
>>>Answer:
>>>
>>>PlaceMarkers created with JAWS 7.0 and earlier are not compatible with
>>>JAWS
>>>7.10 or later, due to internal changes. Similarly, JAWS 7.10 PlaceMarkers
>>>are
>>>not compatible with JAWS 7.0 or earlier.
>>>
>>>If you copy PlaceMarker files from an earlier version of JAWS into your
>>>JAWS
>>>7.10 user settings PlaceMarkers folder, the PlaceMarkers do not appear in
>>>the
>>>CTRL+SHIFT+K PlaceMarker list. You also cannot use the Navigation Quick
>>>Key
>>>K to move to the PlaceMarkers.
>>>
>>>You must recreate your PlaceMarkers for the Web sites you visit in order
>>>to
>>>use them with JAWS 7.10.
>>>
>>>
>>>bc: hooly dooly! unbelievable!
>>>saw absolutely no reference to this at all on the whatsnew for 7.1 page!
>>><large sigh.>
>>>
>>>that's a pretty sad downer, especially since it appears their internal
>>>changes that have now apparently broken any earlier place markers one
>>>may've
>>>had, when using 7.10,
>>>have not even addressed the seeming non ability to create a place marker,
>>>directly, on top of an edit box field. such that you could then hit k to
>>>jump to it, and straight away hit enter to enter forms mode and start
>>>typing! grumph! i really hoped they were gunna fix that.
>>><guess I should've reported it then eh. thought others might though.
>>><sigh.>
>>>
>>>
>>>Category: Microsoft Word
>>>
>>>In Microsoft Word, if I use M or SHIFT+M to move to a misspelled word, 
>>>why
>>>is the entire word automatically selected?
>>>
>>>Answer:
>>>
>>>In Microsoft word, if you turn on the JAWS Navigation Quick Keys
>>>(INSERT+Z),
>>>you can use M or SHIFT+M to navigate the document by misspelled word.
>>>
>>>Microsoft's documentation states that to move to the next/prior
>>>proofreading
>>>item in the document you must use one of the GoTo functions. Then, once
>>>the
>>>range is obtained, you must manually select that range. This, in turn,
>>>causes it to be selected with the cursor on the first character of the
>>>selection.
>>>There is an advantage to having it selected: you can either leave Quick
>>>nav
>>>mode and type over the word or better yet, you can press the application
>>>key
>>>and land in the context menu to then choose to view suggestions for the
>>>selected word.
>>>
>>>Unselecting the text prevents further movement forward or backward 
>>>through
>>>the document. The only way found at this time to do it consistently is to
>>>leave
>>>the item selected.
>>>
>>>
>>>for jaws versions 4x plus?
>>>(that's what it says for below,)
>>>
>>>Category: JAVA
>>>
>>>Short Description:
>>>
>>>Some Java Swing applications are not compatible with the newer Access
>>>Bridge
>>>2.0.
>>>
>>>Problem:
>>>
>>>After updating Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 1.42_x with Access Bridge
>>>(AB)
>>>1.2, to JRE 1.50_x and Access Bridge 2.0, the JAVA Swing UI application 
>>>no
>>>longer works with JAWS.
>>>
>>>Solution:
>>>
>>>You may need to uninstall Java 1.5.x and Sun Access Bridge 2.0 completely
>>>and reinstall Java 1.4.x with Access Bridge 1.x in order to use the
>>>application
>>>with JAWS.
>>>
>>>Since JAWS uses WindowsAccessBridge.DLL, this .DLL file will not be
>>>removed
>>>properly if you are running JAWS while uninstalling SUN's Access Bridge
>>>2.0.
>>>For speech accessibility while uninstalling Java Access Bridge 2.0, you
>>>must
>>>shutdown JAWS and start Windows Narrator (WINDOWS Key+U). This allows
>>>WindowsAccessBridge.DLL
>>>to be removed from the system32 folder in Windows.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Version: 5.10 plus
>>>
>>>Category: Microsoft Outlook
>>>
>>>Question:
>>>
>>>Why can't I see the closed state of items in the Outlook 2003 mailbox 
>>>tree
>>>view?
>>>
>>>Answer:
>>>
>>>Based on our research and testing, we believe this issue is caused by a
>>>flaw
>>>in Microsoft's implementation of MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility). 
>>>In
>>>Outlook 2003, there is no way to distinguish between a closed folder and 
>>>a
>>>folder that has no subfolders. If JAWS announces, "Closed," for a folder
>>>with
>>>multiple subfolders, it also reports, "Closed," for folders that do not
>>>have
>>>subfolders.
>>>
>>>This may be resolved in a future version of Microsoft Office.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Version: 7.10 plus
>>>
>>>Category: Installation
>>>
>>>Question:
>>>
>>>Why can't I see the state of the options in the tree view during a custom
>>>install?
>>>
>>>Answer:
>>>
>>>If Microsoft Narrator starts and then stops during a custom JAWS
>>>installation, the Windows Screen Reader flag is not activated. As a 
>>>result
>>>of this, some
>>>Windows controls, such as tree view items, do not report if they were
>>>correctly installed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Version: Any
>>>
>>>Category: MSAA
>>>
>>>Short Description:
>>>
>>>Quitting Microsoft Narrator while JAWS is running causes Microsoft Active
>>>Accessibility (MSAA) controls to be incorrectly reported to JAWS.
>>>
>>>Problem:
>>>
>>>If you quit Microsoft Narrator while JAWS is running, the Windows Screen
>>>Reader flag is turned off. This results in problems with MSAA reporting
>>>incomplete
>>>information when JAWS queries dialog controls that provide MSAA
>>>information.
>>>For example checkable items in a tree view may not state their on/off
>>>state
>>>or may not indicate that they are checked or unchecked.
>>>
>>>Solution:
>>>
>>>If you quit Microsoft Narrator while running JAWS, and you find that MSAA
>>>controls are no longer reporting the correct information, quit and 
>>>restart
>>>JAWS.
>>>The Screen Reader flag turns on when JAWS starts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Product Name: JAWS
>>>
>>>Version: 5.10 plus
>>>
>>>Category: Video
>>>
>>>Short Description:
>>>
>>>JAWS may become stuck in a reboot loop at startup, or a "Catastrophic
>>>Failure" error message may appear.
>>>
>>>Problem:
>>>
>>>Because JAWS, MAGic and OpenBook cannot hook the JAWSVID DCM video
>>>intercept
>>>if two video drivers are installed, when installing, the software may
>>>become
>>>stuck in a reboot loop at startup, or a "Catastrophic Failure" error
>>>message
>>>may appear. Some computer manufacturers, including Dell and HP, ship 
>>>their
>>>computers with one physical video card installed, but include two
>>>different
>>>video drivers. This is done so that they can use the same operating 
>>>system
>>>image for multiple computer models. Freedom Scientific products cannot
>>>hook
>>>the JAWSVID DCM video intercept if two video drivers are installed.
>>>
>>>This only affects Windows XP, Windows 2000 Pro, Windows 2000 Server,
>>>Windows
>>>2000 Advanced Server, and Windows 2003 Server.
>>>
>>>The following symptoms may indicate if you are affected by this problem:
>>>
>>>* While installing or uninstalling a Freedom Scientific product, you are
>>>continually prompted to reboot the computer. The install/uninstall 
>>>process
>>>does
>>>not continue due to the reboot prompts.
>>>
>>>* The Freedom Scientific product is properly installed, but when you
>>>launch
>>>it, you constantly receive a notification to hook the DCM video 
>>>intercept.
>>>You
>>>hook the video intercept and reboot; however, each time you start the
>>>Freedom Scientific product, you are again prompted to rehook the video
>>>intercept.
>>>
>>>Solution:
>>>
>>>If you experience any of the problems described with JAWS, MAGic,
>>>OpenBook,
>>>or Connect Outloud, check the list of video drivers found in Device
>>>Manager.
>>>If more than one is present, determine which of the installed video
>>>drivers
>>>listed does not apply to your currently installed physical hardware, and
>>>uninstall
>>>it. Reboot your computer after removing the video driver. Once you have
>>>uninstalled the unwanted video driver, reboot the system.
>>>
>>>
>>>Date Posted: 03/10/2006
>>>
>>>Product Name: JAWS
>>>
>>>Version: 7.0 plus
>>>
>>>Category: Synthesizer
>>>
>>>Short Description:
>>>
>>>JAWS crashes when you change to VoiceWare SAPI synthesizers.
>>>
>>>Problem:
>>>
>>>You can use the VoiceWare Paul and Kate voices with Kurzweil 1000 V10, 
>>>but
>>>you must first set your synthesizer to SAPI 5 in JAWS before choosing the
>>>VW
>>>Paul or Kate voices. If you run JAWS as a service, JAWS will stop
>>>responding
>>>after this change.
>>>
>>>Solution:
>>>
>>>If you want to use a VoiceWare synthesizer as your default synthesizer,
>>>run
>>>JAWS as an application.
>>>
>>>To run JAWS as an application:
>>>1. Choose Options from the menu bar in JAWS.
>>>2. Choose Basics in the submenu.
>>>3. Tab to the "Automatically start JAWS" check box and uncheck it.
>>>
>>>You must start JAWS manually when you start your computer. You can use a
>>>shortcut key or launch JAWS from the run dialog by typing "JAWS70" or
>>>"JAWS7."
>>>
>>>You can now use the VoiceWare Paul or VoiceWare Kate voices. If you 
>>>switch
>>>to a non-VoiceWare synthesizer, you can run JAWS as a service.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Version: 6.0 plus
>>>
>>>Category: Authorization
>>>
>>>Short Description:
>>>
>>>Braille flash messages disappear too quickly to read when you press LEFT
>>>or
>>>RIGHT ARROW in a marked-up Word document.
>>>
>>>Problem:
>>>
>>>If you are using braille and you read through a marked-up Word document,
>>>Flash Messages appear on your braille display. These messages contain
>>>information
>>>about what type of editing was performed and/or who performed the 
>>>editing.
>>>If you press LEFT or RIGHT ARROW, the flash messages do not remain on the
>>>display
>>>long enough to read.
>>>
>>>Solution:
>>>
>>>Pressing INSERT+TAB will cause the Flash Message to appear again. This
>>>time,
>>>the message will remain on the display long enough to read.
>>
>> Regards Steve
>> Email:  srp at internode.on.net
>> Skype:  steve1963
>> MSN Messenger:  internetuser383 at hotmail.com
>>
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