[gui-talk] NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRulingon U.S. Currency

Charles Innes innes1 at charm.net
Fri Dec 8 21:21:13 CST 2006


    
Dear \Laura
Please forgive me for this insensitivity.   These curb cuts are manifestly an act of mercy  for wheel-chair bound citizens. 
The public tends to lump us handicapped together.  Once in a while, a passerby will carefully guide me to a curb-cut, perhaps pulling me along by my white cane, and I am always a little puzzled.  

Be well

 Respectfully 
Charles

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Laura Eaves 
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  Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [gui-talk]NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRulingon U.S. Currency


  Well, all I have to say is they help if you're blind and also use a 
  wheelchair, which is the situation I find myself in...
  I'm starting up a mailing list sometime soon for persons with blindness plus 
  other physical challenges and how to deal with them.  There are many such 
  individuals in the federation and I think there needs to be a place for 
  discussion of coping strategies and swapping information.
  So if anyone on this list is interested, please contact me privately so I 
  can get an idea what to write up as the scope of the list.
  I'm sure Dave Andrews will send out an announcement to the e-world when I 
  settle on the name of the list.
  As for curb cuts confusing cane users, I have that problem too and generally 
  don't propel myself when I'm in unfamiliar territory.  I keep the cane with 
  me for emergencies but it is to me to great a risk to try and drive a 
  wheelchair and use a cane at the same time.
  --le

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Charles Innes" <innes1 at charm.net>
  To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
  Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:47 PM
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  [gui-talk]NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRuling on U.S. 
  Currency



  Andy

  Curb cutws do no service for blind persons. In fact, they can be a 
  disservice to blind.  Can't remember how many times I've almost walked into 
  traffic because  my cane could no longer  find the curbstone.


  Sincerely
  Charles

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Baracco, Andrew W
    To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
    Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:48 PM
    Subject: Re: [gui-talk] 
  NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRuling on U.S. Currency


    Keep in mind that we are talking about a product and service that is
    rendered by the Federal government, and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973
    and the Americans With Disabilities Act mandate that services and
    information provided by the government be accessible to all, including
    people with disabilities.  If government web sites need to be
    accessible, why not currency?  This can't hurt anyone, and can help
    many.  I remember when the concept of curb cuts was being discussed.
    There were many who said that the cost of modifying the sidewalk at
    every corner of every intersection would be prohibitive, and most likely
    the majority of those curb cuts wouldn't even be used.  Well, I do not
    think that you will find too many people who would oppose curb cuts
    today.  In fact, they are used and loved by bicyclists, skate boarders,
    people pushing shopping carts, parents pushing strollers, and, yes, even
    people in wheelchairs.  I am willing to even go out on a limb and say
    that the general population will end up thanking us for making it easier
    for them to handle their money.

    Andy
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Dear \Laura
Please forgive me for this insensitivity.   These curb cuts are manifestly an act of mercy  for wheel-chair bound citizens.
The public tends to lump us handicapped together.  Once in a while, a passerby will carefully guide me to a curb-cut, perhaps pulling me along by my white cane, and I am always a little puzzled. 
 
Be well
 
 Respectfully
Charles
 
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mailto:leaves1 at carolina.rr.com Laura Eaves
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Re: [gui-talk]NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRulingon U.S. Currency
Well, all I have to say is they help if you're blind and also use a
wheelchair, which is the situation I find myself in...
I'm starting up a mailing list sometime soon for persons with blindness plus
other physical challenges and how to deal with them.  There are many such
individuals in the federation and I think there needs to be a place for
discussion of coping strategies and swapping information.
So if anyone on this list is interested, please contact me privately so I
can get an idea what to write up as the scope of the list.
I'm sure Dave Andrews will send out an announcement to the e-world when I
settle on the name of the list.
As for curb cuts confusing cane users, I have that problem too and generally
don't propel myself when I'm in unfamiliar territory.  I keep the cane with
me for emergencies but it is to me to great a risk to try and drive a
wheelchair and use a cane at the same time.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Innes" < mailto:innes1 at charm.net innes1 at charm.net
>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" < mailto:gui-talk at nfbnet.org gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:47 PM
Subject: Re:
[gui-talk]NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRuling on U.S.
Currency
Andy
Curb cutws do no service for blind persons. In fact, they can be a
disservice to blind.  Can't remember how many times I've almost walked into
traffic because  my cane could no longer  find the curbstone.
Sincerely
Charles
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Baracco, Andrew W
  To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [gui-talk]
NationalFederationoftheBlindCommentsonFederalCourtRuling on U.S. Currency
  Keep in mind that we are talking about a product and service that is
  rendered by the Federal government, and the Rehabilitation Act of 1973
  and the Americans With Disabilities Act mandate that services and
  information provided by the government be accessible to all, including
  people with disabilities.  If government web sites need to be
  accessible, why not currency?  This can't hurt anyone, and can help
  many.  I remember when the concept of curb cuts was being discussed.
  There were many who said that the cost of modifying the sidewalk at
  every corner of every intersection would be prohibitive, and most likely
  the majority of those curb cuts wouldn't even be used.  Well, I do not
  think that you will find too many people who would oppose curb cuts
  today.  In fact, they are used and loved by bicyclists, skate boarders,
  people pushing shopping carts, parents pushing strollers, and, yes, even
  people in wheelchairs.  I am willing to even go out on a limb and say
  that the general population will end up thanking us for making it easier
  for them to handle their money.
  Andy
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