[gui-talk] (off-topic) but popular Re: NFB on accessible money

[slery]

I am not Allen but if I were, my answer would be that I am not a member of
that organization.  And as a member of this organization it should be
obvious why I am not a member of that organization.  The ACB has a history
of attacking us.  That does not mean we should follow in their foot steps.
The press release started out on a positive note of insisting that we are
not incompetent because we do not have this accommodation.

Take a look at our fight for accessible text books at the college level.
Because we are fighting for this does it make us unable to access our
material in college now?  Should the ACB oppose us because it makes it look
like students can't access their material without?  There is always a way
whether it is difficult or not the best way, every blind college student has
had to conquer this in order to get a degree.  Having ready made access will
certainly make life a lot easier but it is not going to stop me from my
education.  It will allow those that come after me to have an easier time
But honestly, even if this legislation is passed, as an English major, 90%
of my books will never be readily accessible no matter what law is passed.

Since this is a computer related list, I will refrain from commenting
further here but would be happy to continue this discussion off-list.

Cindy

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When the ACB opposed our seeking funding for Newsline -- a service
that all blind people can use and benefit from, did you write them
and tell them that they shouldn't do this?

Dave

At 07:10 AM 12/1/2006, you wrote:
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>Someone wrote:
> >Some of the press here have portrayed blind people as being full of
>anxiety whenever we >have to deal with money.  The implication is that
>if this isn't corrected,
> >we're going to become nervous wrecks.  This certainly doesn't apply to
>me or to most >>people I know.  We are going to be better served in the
>long run if we try to >
>figure out what we can do for ourselves and where we need society's
>help, rath>er than simply saying that if sighted people can see it,
>society owes us the exact >
>information without our needing to do much of anything.>
>
>I think there is more than one answer to most questions.  OK, I feel
>that but the real trouble comes in when one group says they represent
>the only valid position on a subject.  I also think NFB leadership has
>followed a poor leadership path in these cases where they disagree with
>another advocacy group.  I tend to think that opposing another groups
>efforts, for example for audible traffic signals, tactual guides in rail
>stations and elsewhere, and now this, is a "negative" no win approach.
>this isn't a "battle" to be waged.  Things like employment
>discrimination, housing discrimination, access to educational materials,
>and education for that matter, and other "high priority" things are
>goals to strive for, not against.  There is enough work out there so
>leaders don't need to spend time opposing others work.  I don't believe
>there is any inherent problem with audible traffic signals, tactual
>guidelines, or accessible cash, while there is for the other issues i
>raised.  If, for example one group advocated that the blind of America
>were to be given jobs in basket weaving factories as a rule, I'd oppose
>it, but when someone comes along with a beneficial idea that doesn't
>negatively impose upon my life, well leave them alone for crying out
>loud!  What a poor negative leadership style.  Maybe NFB needs leaders
>who think more before they speak?  I suppose I'm really pushing buttons
>here, but come on, do we want a positive effort for cultural change for
>the benefit of us all, or in fighting foolishness that gets us no where.
>maybe negative advertising is the way to go, but it turns me off.  Focus
>your efforts on your own efforts and let others do the same is what I'd
>suggest NFB leadership seriously consider.  NFB leaders are not
>intended, as far as I know, to be constant monitors on other advocacy
>groups activities.  Kind of like the old saying, "If you don't have
>anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."
>
>Alright, I'll stop and not comment on this any more.  Not to avoid
>discussion, but this really is not a GUI topic.
>
>
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David Andrews and white cane Harry.


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