[Faith-talk] Blind Catholics

Mon Feb 4 12:40:27 CST 2008

Thanks, Vincent.  May I also point out that I'm a bit liberal for the
Christian church?  Yeah, I'm a bit abnormal to say the least.  I don't
mean that in a bad way, but I have some feelings about one thing or
another that I won't say here, but if you want to know, write me
privately and I'll say for myself.  But those things I think are a bit
too liberal for the Conservative Catholic church.  I'll search for a
general church that will put up with me as a Liberal
Catholic/Christian and not try to change me.  That's all.
Beth

On 2/4/08, Vincent Fugate <vincent2872 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> 	I have noticed that the Blind and Disabled have both good and bad
> expereances no matter what their faith is.  I would not make that a reason
> to change your faith or give it up all together.  I've even been to some
> Perishs that have not been that friendly, but changed their attitudes once
> they understood who I was, and what all I could do.  Remember that the
> general public is not really educated at all about blindness, and because of
> this ignorance they are often fearful of blindness and don't really know how
> to react to us.  It's an excellent tool to use to witness our faith.
>
> 	I became Catholic for reasons that had nothing to do with blindness
> or people.  I became Catholic because I am confident that this is the church
> Jesus gave us, and I believe this after studying early church history,
> apologetics, and theology, among other things.
>
> 	The attitude I have with church is the same I have in my own NFB
> chapter in Dayton, OH.  I see things this way, there is always going to be
> problems, and there are always going to be a few bad apples in the group.
> You can complain, or just put up with it, or you could give up and leave, or
> you could take charge and be the change in yourself that you believe to be
> true, and want for others.
>
> 	That's just my 2 cents.  If you'd like to talk more about anything,
> feel free to email me here on the list, or of the list at
> vincent2872 at sbcglobal.net
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:44 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blind Catholics
>
> Interesting.  For me, the Catholic church has benn, well, ... I don't
> know really.  I've been raised Catholic, but I don't think I want to
> continu with the Church because I don't like the perochial school
> system and the small town I came from was very small.  The services
> were few, and I didn't know about the NFB and the Xavier Association.
> I lectored only once but was needed in the choir.  Even then, it was
> like, well, I was discouraged from serving at the altar with the
> priests, but the boys in my family have been servers.  So there is my
> story.
> Beth
>
> On 2/4/08, Vincent Fugate <vincent2872 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > 	I do my lecturing by using the proper of the Mass transcribed by the
> > Xavier Society of the Blind, and I get mine in Braille.  I get the First
> > Friday and Saturday readings, and all the readings for Sundays, and Holy
> > Days of Obligation.  They also put out a calendar with many of the
> Catholic
> > feast day's included, and they are now giving away the New Testament in
> > Braille, and large print.  They also have a Catholic library, but it does
> > not have a lot of things I'd want, but it's a nice start If you want books
> > in Braille.
> > 	
> > 	I'm the second Blind Catholic in my area to do this.  I have a
> > friend that is vice president of my chapter for the National Federation of
> > the Blind in the Dayton area that Lecture every third Sunday at his
> Perish.
> >
> > 	I became an Extraordinary Minister so I could help with Adoration.
> > What I did was memorize the layout of my Perish, and all I needed to know
> to
> > setup and take down everything on my own without any assistance.  The only
> > trouble I have is remembering to turn the lights on for the sighties.
> >
> > 	I am not a server, but we do have blind Priests and they do
> > everything, which is something I am trying to find more about, until then
> I
> > think I will just do Adoration.
> >
> > 	I'd say that a lot of the skills I use I've gotten from being a
> > blind parent of two children, and I've been to some NFB conventions also.
> > This has helped me become independent, and more involved in my community
> and
> > church than I would have been without the NFB.  	
> >
> > 	I was not always blind.  I'm 35 now, and was diagnosed legally blind
> > when I was 17.  I have Retinitis Pigmentosis, and my vision got so bad
> about
> > six years ago I had to learn to use a cane, and it got to the point I
> could
> > not read anything.  Most of the times I am totally blind, and what I do
> see
> > is very distorted, and is like looking through a very dirty window.  I
> don't
> > even know what my kids really look like, and I don't know what any of my
> > friends look like.
> >
> > 	It was really hard at first dealing with my vision lost until I got
> > more involved with the National Federation of the Blind.  Before that I
> was
> > in the ACB, but their view of things was not what I needed.  Also, during
> > this time I was going through a change in faith.  I was raised Protestant,
> > which is another story in its self, but to make things short, all my
> > questions and needs have been met through the Catholic church and the
> > National Federation of the Blind.  The Church has even helped me with my
> > blindness in ways I don't believe could have been done in a Protestant
> > church, at least that's how it's worked out for me, and I'm confident this
> > is how God has been leading me all these years.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Beth
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:24 AM
> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blind Catholics
> >
> > I am actually a Catholic myself, but I'm not really involved in
> > anything except a choir and music ministry in the church.  How do you
> > do your extraordinary ministry duties in the church?  How do you do
> > your lecturing duties as well?
> > Beth
> >
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