[Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost

Tue Oct 25 21:58:12 UTC 2016

Dentist Offices really are pushing sales of the more expensive items.

On Tue, 25 Oct 2016, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:15:39
> From: Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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> Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
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>
> Why spend $150 for an electric toothbrush?  I use a $15 
> battery-poweredPhilips Sonicare PowerUp toothbrush which is just as effective 
> as the more expensive rechargeable models.  The advantage of a battery 
> powered toothbrush is that it does not require a charging base that takes up 
> counter space in your bathroom.  I use a pair of rechargeable Panasonic 
> Eneloop AA batteries in my Sonicare and get about 4 weeks of usage before the 
> batteries have to be recharged. And I have two pairs of rechargeable 
> batteries, so while one pair is recharging, I can simply install the other 
> pair into  the toothbrush, and I'm good to go again right away. It's just 
> totally ridiculous.  Where are you supposed to keep all those charging bases 
> for those bathroom gadgets like electric toothbrushes, electric shavers, hair 
> trimmers and oral irrigators?  Nobody has yet invented a universal charging 
> base that can charge all the bathroom gadgets you own.  In my case, it 
> doesn't matter, because I have no counter space to begin with in my tiny 
> bathroom, and so rechargeable gadgets that require a charging base are out of 
> the question.
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:48 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Robin Frost
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>
> Hi,
> Ah I asked because I know Sonicare was launching one too I was just curious
> about that one as well.
> thanks for letting us know.Robin
>
> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:02 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: cheez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>
> The Oral-B Pro 5000 SmartSeries.. has an app you download.  And he app is
> not accessible.  At least, not yet.
> So don't waste your time downloading it.  It's not necessary.  My dentist
> said I needed to start using an electric toothbrush, so I just thought it
> was cool to have a bluetooth toothbrush, and since it was a $150 item, which
> dropped to $85 after it being on sale and a coupon added from Amazon.com, I
> got it.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" 
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:56 AM
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>
>> Hi,
>> Oh no which Bluetooth toothbrush app is that? I'd thought about giving them 
>> a play so not the best idea then?
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:12 AM
>> To: Jim Shaffer ; Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: cheez
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>> 
>> Probably not, and if so, probably won't be easy to use.  Like my bluetooth
>> sonic toothbrush's app.
>> 
>> Vince
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Shaffer via Electronics-Talk" 
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>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>> 
>> 
>>> I wonder if any of those over-the-hood microwaves can be controlled by an 
>>> IPhone app?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:59 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: Robin Frost
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> thanks for letting us all know.
>>> Obviously had I known I'd never have posited as a potential solution.
>>> I'll return to my quiet non-participatory corner now with the hope that
>>> perhaps legislation could be crafted or structured negotiations could be
>>> entered into in an effort to address this issue as it seems like that 
>>> might
>>> be the only way to impact the situation going forward.
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:30 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: cheez
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>>> 
>>> Whirlpool no longer makes braille overlays, and I'm sure GE has followed
>>> suit.
>>> 
>>> Vince
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Frost via Electronics-Talk" 
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>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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>>> Cc: "Robin Frost" <robini71 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
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>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> doesn't Whirlpool make braille overlays for their appliances? they used 
>>>> to do so.  Perhaps a call to them might shed light on this situation?
>>>> Robin
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Annette Carr via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 4:37 PM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Annette Carr
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Accessible Micro Waves, the Battle is Lost
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well I am at a dead-end when it comes to finding an accessible over the
>>>> range microwave.  They just do not exist.  We are left with no option but 
>>>> to
>>>> purchase one that I cannot use as we need the exhaust.  We cannot just
>>>> replace the microwave with a traditional exhaust hood as we would have to
>>>> replace the cabinet above the range to position the hood at the required
>>>> height.  Well, that is not going to happen since it is not possible to 
>>>> match
>>>> a new cabinets to the existing cabinets.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The appliance manufacturers think that making an appliance ADA accessible
>>>> requires them to only meet physical access requirements.  Access for the
>>>> blind is not even a consideration.  It is just a matter of time before
>>>> access to all appliances are out of our reach.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Annette
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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