[Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of DigitalTalkingBook AppropriationAppropriation
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Fri Jun 8 23:48:47 CDT 2007
Wait a minute, people.
NO one said the organizations had different positions. David Andrews was
asked by an NFB member if we (NFB) had dropped the ball; he rather
matter-of-factly said that no, NFB had not done so, that NFB, in fact,
had been watching this issue for some time and that ACB had only lately
taken a position on the subject. This isn't organizational in-fighting;
it is simple statement of fact. No one is criticizing ACB; it takes the
same view as does NFB of the matter.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn Evans
To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of
DigitalTalkingBook AppropriationAppropriation
I fully agree. How sad it is that two organizations are unable to
unite
under one common goal that would help so many people.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Levine" <barry at functionaltherapy.net>
To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital
TalkingBook
AppropriationAppropriation
:
: Thank you, Pratik.
: So often the real issues take a back seat to the organizations'
: chest-thumping. Even when issues, tailor-made for cooperation, are
placed
: on our plates we can't get beyond organizational affiliation. Tis a
pity.
:
:
: --Barry
:
:
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
: Behalf Of Pratik Patel
: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:38 AM
: To: 'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'
: Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital
Talking Book
: AppropriationAppropriation
:
:
: I don't want to start a partisan debate here. But, does it really
matter
: who got the message out? Frankly, I didn't think that the NLS
program and
: its eventual improvement was a race between the two organizations.
The
: point is, the information got out. And the question is: what are we
all
: going to do about it. Let's not sit here and criticize either one
: organization or the other.. We spend too much of our energy doing
that
and
: so much gets lost in between.
:
: Pratik
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
: Behalf Of David Andrews
: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:50 AM
: To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
: Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital
Talking Book
: Appropriation
:
: There is a second message coming -- I was traveling back from Canada
today,
: so things did not get out as quickly as they sometimes do. NFB is
on top
of
: it -- we were working on it months ago when the ACB was silent. It
is
they
: who have jumped on the bandwagon at the eleventh hour.
:
: Dave
:
: At 11:41 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote:
: >Just wondering why this had to come from an ACB list, and why the
NFB
: >wasn't
: >on top of this issue, providing their members with up-to-date
information,
: >and urging our action.
: >
: >Sure, there was a press release from the NFB office, but I feel
this
: >release
: >was reactionary, and not some breakthrough, or show of creativity,
and
: >effective leadership.
: >
: >Just my thaughts.
: >
: >Antonio Guimaraes
: >
: >----- Original Message -----
: >From: "David B Andrews" <David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us>
: >To: <dtb-test at sun8.loc.gov>; <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
: >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:09 AM
: >Subject: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital Talking
: >BookAppropriation
: >
: >
: >>I am passing this information along for your information. It
comes
: >>from an ACB list, and represents all I know about this at this
point.
: >>If true, and successful, it probably wouldn't kill the digital
: >>program but it would delay its full implementation and cause
other
: >>problems as its effects would cascade through the system.
: >>
: >> Dave
: >>
: >>
: >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> From: "Melanie Brunson" <mbrunson at acb.org>
: >> To: <leadership at acb.org>
: >> Cc: <acb-l at acb.org>
: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:14 PM
: >> Subject: [leadership] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital
Talking
: >> Book
: >> Appropriation
: >>
: >>
: >>> Hello All,
: >>>
: >>> Just wanted to give you a quick progress report. The House
: >>> Subcommittee on the Legislative Branch marked up its funding
: >> bill
: >>> today. Their recommendation to the full Committee on
: >> Appropriations
: >>> will include $7.5 million to the Library of Congress for the
: >>> implementation of the digital talking book program by NLS. This
: >> is
: >>> less than half of the amount requested by NLS. The subcommittee
: >>> chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, (d-fl) stated that the bill
: >> will
: >>> also include language giving the Librarian discretion to move
: >> some
: >>> funds from other sources if it is deemed appropriate to fund
: >> this
: >>> program. However, it is not clear whether this discretion would
: >> also
: >>> allow the Librarian to take funds from NLS to fund something
else.
: >>> As of this writing, the actual legislative language is
: >> not
: >>> available, but this is a question we will have to look into.
: >>>
: >>> The full Appropriations Committee will probably consider this
: >> bill
: >>> within a week or so. That means we have some work to do.
: >> Members of
: >>> Congress, especially House members on the Appropriations
: >> Committee,
: >>> need to know how important the talking book program is to the
: >> blind
: >>> community. Please contact your representative if you have not
: >>> already done so. The transition to digital talking books is not
: >> just
: >>> a nice thing to do to provide more bells and whistles that
appeal
: >> to
: >>> techies. It is a necessity because the cassette players
: >> currently in
: >>> use are no longer being manufactured. The entire industry is
: >> phasing
: >>> out the cassette. It is only a matter of time before something
: >> has
: >>> to be done anyway that will enable NLS to adapt to industry
trends.
: >>> Please help us support the continued availability of
: >> talking
: >>> books for the blind. If you have any questions, please contact
: >> me
: >>> either by email, or by calling the ACB national office.
: >>>
: >>> Melanie Brunson
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> --
: >>> Join the Monthly Monetary Support program (MMS) and help improve
: >> tomorrow
: >>> today in ACB.
: >>> For details, contact Dr. Ron Milliman, MMS Program Committee
: >> Chair, by
: >> e-mail:
: >>> rmilliman at insightbb.com or by phone at 270-782-9325 and get
: >> started making
: >>> tomorrow look brighter today in ACB!
: >>>
: >>> This message has come to you from the ACB Leadership List: a
: >> special
: >>> List for use by the leadership of the American Council of the
: >> Blind.
: >>> This communication is privileged and may contain confidential
: >>> information intended only for the person(s) to whom it is
: >> addressed.
: >>> Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, other distribution of this
: >>> communication is strictly prohibited and may result in immediate
: >> removal
: >>> from the List. If you have received this message in error,
: >> please
: >>> notify ACB immediately by writing to support at acb.org.
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >> David Andrews
: >> Chief Technology Officer
: >> Minnesota State Services for the Blind
: >> 2200 University Ave. W., #240
: >> St. Paul, MN 55114-1840
: >> (651) 642-0513 Office
: >> (612) 730-7931 Cell
: >> (651) 649-5927 Fax
: >>
: >> _______________________________________________
: >> Dtb-talk mailing list
: >> Dtb-talk at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/dtb-talk
: >>
: >>
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Wait a minute, people.
NO one said the organizations had different positions. David Andrews was asked by an NFB member if we (NFB) had dropped the ball; he rather matter-of-factly said that no, NFB had not done so, that NFB, in fact, had been watching this issue for some time and that ACB had only lately taken a position on the subject. This isn't organizational in-fighting; it is simple statement of fact. No one is criticizing ACB; it takes the same view as does NFB of the matter.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:evans-lynn at comcast.net Lynn Evans
To:
mailto:dtb-talk at nfbnet.org Discussion of Digital Talking Books
Sent:
Friday, June 08, 2007 6:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of DigitalTalkingBook AppropriationAppropriation
I fully agree. How sad it is that two organizations are unable to unite
under one common goal that would help so many people.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Levine" < mailto:barry at functionaltherapy.net barry at functionaltherapy.net
>
To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" < mailto:dtb-talk at nfbnet.org dtb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital TalkingBook
AppropriationAppropriation
:
: Thank you, Pratik.
: So often the real issues take a back seat to the organizations'
: chest-thumping. Even when issues, tailor-made for cooperation, are placed
: on our plates we can't get beyond organizational affiliation. Tis a pity.
:
:
: --Barry
:
:
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
: Behalf Of Pratik Patel
: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 5:38 AM
: To: 'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'
: Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital Talking Book
: AppropriationAppropriation
:
:
: I don't want to start a partisan debate here. But, does it really matter
: who got the message out? Frankly, I didn't think that the NLS program and
: its eventual improvement was a race between the two organizations. The
: point is, the information got out. And the question is: what are we all
: going to do about it. Let's not sit here and criticize either one
: organization or the other.. We spend too much of our energy doing that
and
: so much gets lost in between.
:
: Pratik
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
: Behalf Of David Andrews
: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:50 AM
: To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
: Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital Talking Book
: Appropriation
:
: There is a second message coming -- I was traveling back from Canada
today,
: so things did not get out as quickly as they sometimes do. NFB is on top
of
: it -- we were working on it months ago when the ACB was silent. It is
they
: who have jumped on the bandwagon at the eleventh hour.
:
: Dave
:
: At 11:41 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote:
: >Just wondering why this had to come from an ACB list, and why the NFB
: >wasn't
: >on top of this issue, providing their members with up-to-date
information,
: >and urging our action.
: >
: >Sure, there was a press release from the NFB office, but I feel this
: >release
: >was reactionary, and not some breakthrough, or show of creativity, and
: >effective leadership.
: >
: >Just my thaughts.
: >
: >Antonio Guimaraes
: >
: >----- Original Message -----
: >From: "David B Andrews" < mailto:David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us
>
: >To: < mailto:dtb-test at sun8.loc.gov dtb-test at sun8.loc.gov
>; < mailto:dtb-talk at nfbnet.org dtb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
: >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:09 AM
: >Subject: [Dtb-talk] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital Talking
: >BookAppropriation
: >
: >
: >>I am passing this information along for your information. It comes
: >>from an ACB list, and represents all I know about this at this point.
: >>If true, and successful, it probably wouldn't kill the digital
: >>program but it would delay its full implementation and cause other
: >>problems as its effects would cascade through the system.
: >>
: >> Dave
: >>
: >>
: >> ----- Original Message -----
: >> From: "Melanie Brunson" < mailto:mbrunson at acb.org mbrunson at acb.org
>
: >> To: < mailto:leadership at acb.org leadership at acb.org
>
: >> Cc: < mailto:acb-l at acb.org acb-l at acb.org
>
: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:14 PM
: >> Subject: [leadership] House Subcommittee mark up of Digital Talking
: >> Book
: >> Appropriation
: >>
: >>
: >>> Hello All,
: >>>
: >>> Just wanted to give you a quick progress report. The House
: >>> Subcommittee on the Legislative Branch marked up its funding
: >> bill
: >>> today. Their recommendation to the full Committee on
: >> Appropriations
: >>> will include $7.5 million to the Library of Congress for the
: >>> implementation of the digital talking book program by NLS. This
: >> is
: >>> less than half of the amount requested by NLS. The subcommittee
: >>> chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, (d-fl) stated that the bill
: >> will
: >>> also include language giving the Librarian discretion to move
: >> some
: >>> funds from other sources if it is deemed appropriate to fund
: >> this
: >>> program. However, it is not clear whether this discretion would
: >> also
: >>> allow the Librarian to take funds from NLS to fund something else.
: >>> As of this writing, the actual legislative language is
: >> not
: >>> available, but this is a question we will have to look into.
: >>>
: >>> The full Appropriations Committee will probably consider this
: >> bill
: >>> within a week or so. That means we have some work to do.
: >> Members of
: >>> Congress, especially House members on the Appropriations
: >> Committee,
: >>> need to know how important the talking book program is to the
: >> blind
: >>> community. Please contact your representative if you have not
: >>> already done so. The transition to digital talking books is not
: >> just
: >>> a nice thing to do to provide more bells and whistles that appeal
: >> to
: >>> techies. It is a necessity because the cassette players
: >> currently in
: >>> use are no longer being manufactured. The entire industry is
: >> phasing
: >>> out the cassette. It is only a matter of time before something
: >> has
: >>> to be done anyway that will enable NLS to adapt to industry trends.
: >>> Please help us support the continued availability of
: >> talking
: >>> books for the blind. If you have any questions, please contact
: >> me
: >>> either by email, or by calling the ACB national office.
: >>>
: >>> Melanie Brunson
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> --
: >>> Join the Monthly Monetary Support program (MMS) and help improve
: >> tomorrow
: >>> today in ACB.
: >>> For details, contact Dr. Ron Milliman, MMS Program Committee
: >> Chair, by
: >> e-mail:
: >>> mailto:rmilliman at insightbb.com rmilliman at insightbb.com
or by phone at 270-782-9325 and get
: >> started making
: >>> tomorrow look brighter today in ACB!
: >>>
: >>> This message has come to you from the ACB Leadership List: a
: >> special
: >>> List for use by the leadership of the American Council of the
: >> Blind.
: >>> This communication is privileged and may contain confidential
: >>> information intended only for the person(s) to whom it is
: >> addressed.
: >>> Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, other distribution of this
: >>> communication is strictly prohibited and may result in immediate
: >> removal
: >>> from the List. If you have received this message in error,
: >> please
: >>> notify ACB immediately by writing to mailto:support at acb.org support at acb.org
.
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >> David Andrews
: >> Chief Technology Officer
: >> Minnesota State Services for the Blind
: >> 2200 University Ave. W., #240
: >> St. Paul, MN 55114-1840
: >> (651) 642-0513 Office
: >> (612) 730-7931 Cell
: >> (651) 649-5927 Fax
: >>
: >> _______________________________________________
: >> Dtb-talk mailing list
: >> mailto:Dtb-talk at nfbnet.org Dtb-talk at nfbnet.org
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/dtb-talk http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/dtb-talk
: >>
: >>
: >> --
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: >> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
: >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/836 - Release Date:
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: >> 1:10 PM
: >>
: >>
: >
: >_______________________________________________
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