From maurice at mmines.org  Mon Nov 11 20:18:08 2024
From: maurice at mmines.org (Maurice Mines)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:18:08 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
 Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Message-ID: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day 

we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 

From mota1252 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 11 20:28:31 2024
From: mota1252 at gmail.com (Milton Ota)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:28:31 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
Message-ID: <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>

I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.

It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should
work fine with the iPhone 16 series.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice
Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But
since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting
time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think
it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible
systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm
finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard
stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although
this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many
people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages,
and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on
insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable
meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific
study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just
stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm
using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day


we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 
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From jdashiel at panix.com  Mon Nov 11 20:44:47 2024
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:44:47 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6135bd3-9b88-4004-61e4-47d8b3699364@panix.com>

singularwingsmedical has a cgm in development
and this  is going to be a durable cgm.  You wear it on your heart and a
strap around your body holds it on.  Apps to collect sensor information
are already available on the iphone.  The company based in taiwan expects
to have it on the open market in two years.


--
 Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
 "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
 Please use in that order."
 Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.
>
> It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should
> work fine with the iPhone 16 series.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice
> Mines via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
> Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
> Importance: High
>
> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But
> since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting
> time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think
> it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible
> systems.
>
> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm
> finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard
> stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although
> this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many
> people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages,
> and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on
> insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable
> meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>
> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific
> study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
> Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just
> stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm
> using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>
> Maurice A. Mines, President
>
> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>
> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>
> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>
> Live the life you want.
>
> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division
>
> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and
>
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day
>
>
> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 11 20:50:26 2024
From: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net (sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:50:26 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01c101db347b$56ea0280$04be0780$@sbcglobal.net>

Hi
I have been using the Libre 3 for some time now. it is the only one I've used and I love it.
I don't know what I would do with out it.
I feel you need to do what is right for you.
I like it because it is small, the sensor is and I don't have to manually pick up my phone to scan. It automatically does it every 3 to 5 minutes.
It has helped me lower my A1C to a 5.6 from a 7
Sugar

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."
? Sugar

Cell: 559.545.3740

Email: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.

It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should work fine with the iPhone 16 series.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day


we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 
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From sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 11 20:51:40 2024
From: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net (sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:51:40 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
Message-ID: <01c301db347b$82be4150$883ac3f0$@sbcglobal.net>

Yes but that is normal for both Dexcome and Libre
There is no absolute perfect system out there
Remember that every CGM is not testing the acutal blood but your inter fluids and you will be off between 15 to 30 points.
Sugar

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."
? Sugar

Cell: 559.545.3740

Email: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day 

we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 
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From jfmnw1ld at gmail.com  Mon Nov 11 21:40:55 2024
From: jfmnw1ld at gmail.com (Jane Ferguson)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:40:55 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
Message-ID: <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Maurice,
I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.

The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally a
lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your BG at the
time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be delayed 5- 20
minutes depending on many factors.
I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a fingerstick.
If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is not that accurate if
you're running low. This helps me use the right amount of carbohydrate to
raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in the normal range then I calibrate
again.
The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace period,
and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the abdomen if you
don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to be able to let a new
sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before disconnecting the expiring
sensor and taking readings on the new one.
I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts 14
days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd like to
try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates in your tissue
upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor insertion requiring a
search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to have a more generous free
replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is now limited to three free
replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm going
to talk to my endo about switching, too!

I'm glad you brought that topic up.

Sincerely,
*Jane Ferguson*


On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk <
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But
> since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting
> time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think
> it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible
> systems.
>
> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm
> finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard
> stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although
> this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many
> people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages,
> and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on
> insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable
> meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>
> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a
> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some
> information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm
> likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue
> using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>
> Maurice A. Mines, President
>
> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>
> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>
> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>
> Live the life you want.
>
> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division
>
> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and
>
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every
> day
>
> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
>
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>

From jfmnw1ld at gmail.com  Mon Nov 11 22:17:17 2024
From: jfmnw1ld at gmail.com (Jane Ferguson)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:17:17 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>

I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 cheaper
per month in my area at OTC prices.
They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
Sincerely,
*Jane Ferguson*



On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Maurice,
> I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
>
> The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally a
> lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your BG at the
> time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be delayed 5- 20
> minutes depending on many factors.
> I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a
> fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is not
> that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right amount of
> carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in the normal range
> then I calibrate again.
> The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace period,
> and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the abdomen if you
> don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to be able to let a new
> sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before disconnecting the expiring
> sensor and taking readings on the new one.
> I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts 14
> days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd like to
> try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates in your tissue
> upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor insertion requiring a
> search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to have a more generous free
> replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is now limited to three free
> replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
> I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm going
> to talk to my endo about switching, too!
>
> I'm glad you brought that topic up.
>
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk <
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But
>> since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting
>> time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think
>> it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible
>> systems.
>>
>> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm
>> finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard
>> stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although
>> this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many
>> people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages,
>> and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on
>> insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable
>> meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>>
>> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a
>> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some
>> information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm
>> likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue
>> using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maurice A. Mines, President
>>
>> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>>
>> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>>
>> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>>
>> Live the life you want.
>>
>> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud
>> division
>>
>> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and
>>
>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every
>> day
>>
>> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/jfmnw1ld%40gmail.com
>>
>

From jfmnw1ld at gmail.com  Mon Nov 11 22:27:16 2024
From: jfmnw1ld at gmail.com (Jane Ferguson)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:27:16 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Does anyone know of the Libre 3 cgm replacement policy?
Sincerely,
Jane Ferguson
jfmnw1ld at gmail.com





On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 4:17?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 cheaper
> per month in my area at OTC prices.
> They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maurice,
>> I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
>>
>> The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally a
>> lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your BG at the
>> time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be delayed 5- 20
>> minutes depending on many factors.
>> I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a
>> fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is not
>> that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right amount of
>> carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in the normal range
>> then I calibrate again.
>> The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace
>> period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the abdomen
>> if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to be able to let
>> a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before disconnecting the
>> expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
>> I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts 14
>> days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd like to
>> try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates in your tissue
>> upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor insertion requiring a
>> search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to have a more generous free
>> replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is now limited to three free
>> replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
>> I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm
>> going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
>>
>> I'm glad you brought that topic up.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> *Jane Ferguson*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk <
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But
>>> since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting
>>> time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think
>>> it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible
>>> systems.
>>>
>>> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm
>>> finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard
>>> stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although
>>> this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many
>>> people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages,
>>> and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on
>>> insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable
>>> meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>>>
>>> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a
>>> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some
>>> information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm
>>> likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue
>>> using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maurice A. Mines, President
>>>
>>> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>>>
>>> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>>>
>>> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>>>
>>> Live the life you want.
>>>
>>> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud
>>> division
>>>
>>> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and
>>>
>>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every
>>> day
>>>
>>> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>

From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 11 22:37:00 2024
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:37:00 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <01c101db347b$56ea0280$04be0780$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
 <01c101db347b$56ea0280$04be0780$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <003101db348a$39b165a0$ad1430e0$@gmail.com>

Totally agree.both cgm systems do the job .   having these CGm systems is better then not having a CGM at all.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sugarsyl71--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:50 PM
To: mota1252 at gmail.com; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Hi
I have been using the Libre 3 for some time now. it is the only one I've used and I love it.
I don't know what I would do with out it.
I feel you need to do what is right for you.
I like it because it is small, the sensor is and I don't have to manually pick up my phone to scan. It automatically does it every 3 to 5 minutes.
It has helped me lower my A1C to a 5.6 from a 7 Sugar

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."
? Sugar

Cell: 559.545.3740

Email: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.

It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should work fine with the iPhone 16 series.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day


we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 11 23:59:55 2024
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:59:55 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <003101db348a$39b165a0$ad1430e0$@gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
 <01c101db347b$56ea0280$04be0780$@sbcglobal.net>
 <003101db348a$39b165a0$ad1430e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002e01db3495$ce942b70$6bbc8250$@gmail.com>

You can actually buy the Dexcom G7 over the counter now, but I have no idea what it costs.  I do use the Dexcom G7 and I am very happy with it.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>; mota1252 at gmail.com
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Totally agree.both cgm systems do the job .   having these CGm systems is better then not having a CGM at all.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sugarsyl71--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:50 PM
To: mota1252 at gmail.com; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Hi
I have been using the Libre 3 for some time now. it is the only one I've used and I love it.
I don't know what I would do with out it.
I feel you need to do what is right for you.
I like it because it is small, the sensor is and I don't have to manually pick up my phone to scan. It automatically does it every 3 to 5 minutes.
It has helped me lower my A1C to a 5.6 from a 7 Sugar

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."
? Sugar

Cell: 559.545.3740

Email: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.

It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should work fine with the iPhone 16 series.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day


we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Nov 12 01:17:56 2024
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:17:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <002e01db3495$ce942b70$6bbc8250$@gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
 <01c101db347b$56ea0280$04be0780$@sbcglobal.net>
 <003101db348a$39b165a0$ad1430e0$@gmail.com>
 <002e01db3495$ce942b70$6bbc8250$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <029301db34a0$b5bb14f0$21313ed0$@comcast.net>

Maurice, you will always get different numbers; the CGM's measure interstitial fluid; the finger sticks measure blood. But if your readings are consistently about the same, that is, the same number of points apart, (mine tend to be about 15), you're fine. Dexcom is more money and for my money I use the Libre 3. I find with my a1c the numbers I get with the libre 3 indicate the interstitial fluid measurements coincide with what I would expect for an A1c.

If you have the extra money and you can only get the Dexcom over the counter, then do that, but I do believe both products do their jobs well. Figure out what you can manage.

Both have alarms; the Libre 3 is easy to apply; it is small; it can be covered with Tegaderm or an equivalent to keep it protected from coming off in the pool or under water. Look at all the notes you have seen and make a choice and stick with it.

Best of luck.

Jeanette  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 7:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

You can actually buy the Dexcom G7 over the counter now, but I have no idea what it costs.  I do use the Dexcom G7 and I am very happy with it.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>; mota1252 at gmail.com
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Totally agree.both cgm systems do the job .   having these CGm systems is better then not having a CGM at all.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sugarsyl71--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:50 PM
To: mota1252 at gmail.com; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Hi
I have been using the Libre 3 for some time now. it is the only one I've used and I love it.
I don't know what I would do with out it.
I feel you need to do what is right for you.
I like it because it is small, the sensor is and I don't have to manually pick up my phone to scan. It automatically does it every 3 to 5 minutes.
It has helped me lower my A1C to a 5.6 from a 7 Sugar

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."
? Sugar

Cell: 559.545.3740

Email: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.

It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should work fine with the iPhone 16 series.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

Maurice A. Mines, President 

National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division 

Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org> 

Live the life you want. 

The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division 

of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and 

friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day


we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.   

 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 01:25:43 2024
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:25:43 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <029301db34a0$b5bb14f0$21313ed0$@comcast.net>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <00da01db3478$468c20b0$d3a46210$@gmail.com>
 <01c101db347b$56ea0280$04be0780$@sbcglobal.net>
 <003101db348a$39b165a0$ad1430e0$@gmail.com>
 <002e01db3495$ce942b70$6bbc8250$@gmail.com>
 <029301db34a0$b5bb14f0$21313ed0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003801db34a1$cb3dde10$61b99a30$@gmail.com>

Totally agree with you.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:18 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Maurice, you will always get different numbers; the CGM's measure interstitial fluid; the finger sticks measure blood. But if your readings are consistently about the same, that is, the same number of points apart, (mine tend to be about 15), you're fine. Dexcom is more money and for my money I use the Libre 3. I find with my a1c the numbers I get with the libre 3 indicate the interstitial fluid measurements coincide with what I would expect for an A1c.

If you have the extra money and you can only get the Dexcom over the counter, then do that, but I do believe both products do their jobs well. Figure out what you can manage.

Both have alarms; the Libre 3 is easy to apply; it is small; it can be covered with Tegaderm or an equivalent to keep it protected from coming off in the pool or under water. Look at all the notes you have seen and make a choice and stick with it.

Best of luck.

Jeanette  

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 7:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

You can actually buy the Dexcom G7 over the counter now, but I have no idea what it costs.  I do use the Dexcom G7 and I am very happy with it.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>; mota1252 at gmail.com
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
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Totally agree.both cgm systems do the job .   having these CGm systems is better then not having a CGM at all.  

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Hi
I have been using the Libre 3 for some time now. it is the only one I've used and I love it.
I don't know what I would do with out it.
I feel you need to do what is right for you.
I like it because it is small, the sensor is and I don't have to manually pick up my phone to scan. It automatically does it every 3 to 5 minutes.
It has helped me lower my A1C to a 5.6 from a 7 Sugar

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? Sugar

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 12:29 PM
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I would suggest that you stay with the Free Libra.

It should work with iOS 18.1 and if you are upgrading your phone it should work fine with the iPhone 16 series.


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:18 PM
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Cc: Maurice Mines <maurice at mmines.org>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why?
Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
Importance: High

Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons of both accessible systems.

I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.

I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking some information.
Just to make an informed choice if I need to make one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?

 

 

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Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org 

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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Nov 12 01:30:17 2024
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <CAAfNjMoyMJZoQ0G_LYt4QaXq7HdFSMrX+jhRNYSTpOskO-wPkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I think it is misinformation to say the Freestyle Libre is less accurate. Unless you are a scientist and have done your own studies and can prove to me without a doubt that that statement about accuracy is true, I respectfully ask you not to put it out on the list. 

My Libre numbers correlate with my A1C's and my finger sticks in ways that have shown me that the product is accurate. You may like the Dexcom better, and that is your right, but for those of us who use the Libre and have had very positive, good results with it, we would appreciate not hearing those kinds of statements. Thank  you.

Libre replaces censors, but they, like Dexcom want to make sure people are  not abusing the privilege of getting a replacement. I have never had a problem.

Jeanette
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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:27 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Does anyone know of the Libre 3 cgm replacement policy?
Sincerely,
Jane Ferguson
jfmnw1ld at gmail.com





On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 4:17?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 
> cheaper per month in my area at OTC prices.
> They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maurice,
>> I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
>>
>> The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally 
>> a lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your 
>> BG at the time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be 
>> delayed 5- 20 minutes depending on many factors.
>> I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a 
>> fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is 
>> not that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right 
>> amount of carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in 
>> the normal range then I calibrate again.
>> The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace 
>> period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the 
>> abdomen if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to 
>> be able to let a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before 
>> disconnecting the expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
>> I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts 
>> 14 days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd 
>> like to try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates 
>> in your tissue upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor 
>> insertion requiring a search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to 
>> have a more generous free replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is 
>> now limited to three free replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
>> I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm 
>> going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
>>
>> I'm glad you brought that topic up.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> *Jane Ferguson*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk < 
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. 
>>> But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary 
>>> position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the 
>>> next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the 
>>> pros and cons of both accessible systems.
>>>
>>> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, 
>>> I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the 
>>> standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the 
>>> time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying 
>>> sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex 
>>> com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of 
>>> potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. 
>>> And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>>>
>>> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a 
>>> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking 
>>> some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make 
>>> one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my 
>>> doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maurice A. Mines, President
>>>
>>> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>>>
>>> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>>>
>>> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>>>
>>> Live the life you want.
>>>
>>> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud 
>>> division
>>>
>>> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
>>> and
>>>
>>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 
>>> Every day
>>>
>>> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>
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>>> 40gmail.com
>>>
>>
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From sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 12 01:31:19 2024
From: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net (sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:31:19 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <CAAfNjMoyMJZoQ0G_LYt4QaXq7HdFSMrX+jhRNYSTpOskO-wPkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMoyMJZoQ0G_LYt4QaXq7HdFSMrX+jhRNYSTpOskO-wPkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0bdf01db34a2$942a7b80$bc7f7280$@sbcglobal.net>

Hello
When I am in need of a new sensor for some reason, I call Abbott and they ask for cereal number on the ap and other information like, what happened, when it happened and they ask for different series of numbers that usually can be found on the menu and about on your ap
Then they mail out a box where you can insert that bad  sensor and they send you a new sensor.
HTH
Sugar
"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."
? Sugar

Cell: 559.545.3740

Email: sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:27 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Does anyone know of the Libre 3 gm. replacement policy?
Sincerely,
Jane Ferguson
jfmnw1ld at gmail.com





On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 4:17?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 
> cheaper per month in my area at OTC prices.
> They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maurice,
>> I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
>>
>> The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally 
>> a lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your 
>> BG at the time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be 
>> delayed 5- 20 minutes depending on many factors.
>> I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a 
>> fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the gm. is 
>> not that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right 
>> amount of carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in 
>> the normal range then I calibrate again.
>> The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace 
>> period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the 
>> abdomen if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to 
>> be able to let a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before 
>> disconnecting the expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
>> I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts 
>> 14 days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd 
>> like to try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates 
>> in your tissue upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor 
>> insertion requiring a search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to 
>> have a more generous free replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is 
>> now limited to three free replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
>> I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm 
>> going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
>>
>> I'm glad you brought that topic up.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> *Jane Ferguson*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk < 
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. 
>>> But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary 
>>> position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the 
>>> next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the 
>>> pros and cons of both accessible systems.
>>>
>>> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, 
>>> I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the 
>>> standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the 
>>> time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying 
>>> sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex 
>>> com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of 
>>> potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. 
>>> And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>>>
>>> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a 
>>> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking 
>>> some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make 
>>> one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my 
>>> doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maurice A. Mines, President
>>>
>>> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>>>
>>> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>>>
>>> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>>>
>>> Live the life you want.
>>>
>>> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud 
>>> division
>>>
>>> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
>>> and
>>>
>>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 
>>> Every day
>>>
>>> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/jfmnw1ld%
>>> 40gmail.com
>>>
>>
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Nov 12 01:32:24 2024
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:32:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02c401db34a2$ba9317f0$2fb947d0$@comcast.net>

Jane, the cost varies by insurance plan and even then, mail order is different from when you pick it up. Each person must check the prices with their insurance companies and their over the counter providers. Also, different pharmacies have different pricing, some times.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:17 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 cheaper per month in my area at OTC prices.
They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
Sincerely,
*Jane Ferguson*



On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Maurice,
> I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
>
> The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally a 
> lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your BG 
> at the time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be 
> delayed 5- 20 minutes depending on many factors.
> I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a 
> fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is 
> not that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right 
> amount of carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in 
> the normal range then I calibrate again.
> The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace 
> period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the 
> abdomen if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to be 
> able to let a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before 
> disconnecting the expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
> I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts 
> 14 days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd 
> like to try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates 
> in your tissue upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor 
> insertion requiring a search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to 
> have a more generous free replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is 
> now limited to three free replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
> I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm 
> going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
>
> I'm glad you brought that topic up.
>
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk < 
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. 
>> But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position, 
>> meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three 
>> years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons 
>> of both accessible systems.
>>
>> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm 
>> finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the 
>> standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the 
>> time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying 
>> sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex 
>> com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of 
>> potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to. 
>> And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>>
>> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a 
>> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking 
>> some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make 
>> one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my 
>> doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maurice A. Mines, President
>>
>> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>>
>> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>>
>> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>>
>> Live the life you want.
>>
>> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud 
>> division
>>
>> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
>> and
>>
>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 
>> Every day
>>
>> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>>
>>
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From jfmnw1ld at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 02:36:57 2024
From: jfmnw1ld at gmail.com (Jane Ferguson)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:36:57 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <02c401db34a2$ba9317f0$2fb947d0$@comcast.net>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <02c401db34a2$ba9317f0$2fb947d0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAAfNjMqqoagmZMB2fnKD5Zv8hhAOV5yjtvzqvvO2-kH0VWCFsA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jeannette,
You're very right about how the prices can very so much. The catch for me
is my insurance pays for the sensors, but when a sensor fails I pay out of
pocket for the replacements.  The OTC cost is part  of my decision.
Peace,
Jane

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 7:33?PM Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Jane, the cost varies by insurance plan and even then, mail order is
> different from when you pick it up. Each person must check the prices with
> their insurance companies and their over the counter providers. Also,
> different pharmacies have different pricing, some times.
>
> Jeanette
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane
> Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:17 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
> why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
>
> I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 cheaper
> per month in my area at OTC prices.
> They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Maurice,
> > I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
> >
> > The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally a
> > lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your BG
> > at the time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be
> > delayed 5- 20 minutes depending on many factors.
> > I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a
> > fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is
> > not that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right
> > amount of carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in
> > the normal range then I calibrate again.
> > The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace
> > period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the
> > abdomen if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to be
> > able to let a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before
> > disconnecting the expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
> > I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts
> > 14 days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd
> > like to try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates
> > in your tissue upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor
> > insertion requiring a search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to
> > have a more generous free replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is
> > now limited to three free replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less
> expensive.
> > I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm
> > going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
> >
> > I'm glad you brought that topic up.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > *Jane Ferguson*
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk <
> > diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before.
> >> But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary position,
> >> meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the next three
> >> years, I think it's time to just at least look at the pros and cons
> >> of both accessible systems.
> >>
> >> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, I'm
> >> finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the
> >> standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the
> >> time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying
> >> sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex
> >> com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of
> >> potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to.
> >> And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good
> control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
> >>
> >> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a
> >> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking
> >> some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make
> >> one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my
> >> doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any
> thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maurice A. Mines, President
> >>
> >> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
> >>
> >> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
> >>
> >> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
> >>
> >> Live the life you want.
> >>
> >> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud
> >> division
> >>
> >> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members
> >> and
> >>
> >> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind.
> >> Every day
> >>
> >> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> >> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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> >> 0gmail.com
> >>
> >
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 02:53:48 2024
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:53:48 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <02b401db34a2$6f3963e0$4dac2ba0$@comcast.net>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMoyMJZoQ0G_LYt4QaXq7HdFSMrX+jhRNYSTpOskO-wPkw@mail.gmail.com>
 <02b401db34a2$6f3963e0$4dac2ba0$@comcast.net>
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Would tend to agree.both cgm system dexcom and freestyle libre are not 100% . its based on an algarythm build by the  companies to get as close to  accuracy.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

I think it is misinformation to say the Freestyle Libre is less accurate. Unless you are a scientist and have done your own studies and can prove to me without a doubt that that statement about accuracy is true, I respectfully ask you not to put it out on the list. 

My Libre numbers correlate with my A1C's and my finger sticks in ways that have shown me that the product is accurate. You may like the Dexcom better, and that is your right, but for those of us who use the Libre and have had very positive, good results with it, we would appreciate not hearing those kinds of statements. Thank  you.

Libre replaces censors, but they, like Dexcom want to make sure people are  not abusing the privilege of getting a replacement. I have never had a problem.

Jeanette
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:27 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Does anyone know of the Libre 3 cgm replacement policy?
Sincerely,
Jane Ferguson
jfmnw1ld at gmail.com





On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 4:17?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 
> cheaper per month in my area at OTC prices.
> They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maurice,
>> I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
>>
>> The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally 
>> a lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your 
>> BG at the time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be 
>> delayed 5- 20 minutes depending on many factors.
>> I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a 
>> fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is 
>> not that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right 
>> amount of carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in 
>> the normal range then I calibrate again.
>> The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace 
>> period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the 
>> abdomen if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to 
>> be able to let a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before 
>> disconnecting the expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
>> I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it lasts
>> 14 days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd 
>> like to try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates 
>> in your tissue upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor 
>> insertion requiring a search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to 
>> have a more generous free replacement policy if a sensor fails. It is 
>> now limited to three free replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM is less expensive.
>> I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm 
>> going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
>>
>> I'm glad you brought that topic up.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> *Jane Ferguson*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk < 
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before. 
>>> But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary 
>>> position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the 
>>> next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the 
>>> pros and cons of both accessible systems.
>>>
>>> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, 
>>> I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the 
>>> standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of the 
>>> time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat annoying 
>>> sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other system, Dex 
>>> com. What are the advantages, and more potential disadvantages of 
>>> potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to.
>>> And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very good control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
>>>
>>> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a 
>>> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking 
>>> some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make 
>>> one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my 
>>> doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maurice A. Mines, President
>>>
>>> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
>>>
>>> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
>>>
>>> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>>>
>>> Live the life you want.
>>>
>>> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud 
>>> division
>>>
>>> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
>>> and
>>>
>>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 
>>> Every day
>>>
>>> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/jfmnw1ld%
>>> 40gmail.com
>>>
>>
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Nov 12 02:54:29 2024
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:54:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and
 why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
In-Reply-To: <CAAfNjMqqoagmZMB2fnKD5Zv8hhAOV5yjtvzqvvO2-kH0VWCFsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <551A0CB9-58C4-481F-98C3-0193316C69C6@mmines.org>
 <CAAfNjMr5fb0AFyp40Z_f8gRi1Uetu2jkt0buQh9x=D5dsBCykQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAfNjMo6kvHX9DCKoivrctRQ4tUN4NLtcUFROo=up8iUy7FC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <02c401db34a2$ba9317f0$2fb947d0$@comcast.net>
 <CAAfNjMqqoagmZMB2fnKD5Zv8hhAOV5yjtvzqvvO2-kH0VWCFsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <034601db34ae$3253d3f0$96fb7bd0$@comcast.net>

So what you should consider trying is calling either Abbott or Dexcom when the censor fails because they do have processes for replacing them. You should not have to pay for a failed censor, and I do know you can send them back and I would insist on them taking them back and assisting you.

I wish you luck with that.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 9:37 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.

Hi Jeannette,
You're very right about how the prices can very so much. The catch for me is my insurance pays for the sensors, but when a sensor fails I pay out of pocket for the replacements.  The OTC cost is part  of my decision.
Peace,
Jane

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 7:33?PM Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Jane, the cost varies by insurance plan and even then, mail order is 
> different from when you pick it up. Each person must check the prices 
> with their insurance companies and their over the counter providers. 
> Also, different pharmacies have different pricing, some times.
>
> Jeanette
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Jane Ferguson via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 5:17 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Which of the two accessible CGM is better 
> and why? Getting ready to meet with my doctor about re-authorizing a CGM.
>
> I just checked the cost and the FreeStyle Libre 3 is $40.00-$45.00 
> cheaper per month in my area at OTC prices.
> They did recall some faulty sensors if you look on their website.
> Sincerely,
> *Jane Ferguson*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:40?PM Jane Ferguson <jfmnw1ld at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Maurice,
> > I just joined the group, and I'm happy to receive my first email.
> >
> > The CGM measures your BG from interstitial fluid, so it is generally 
> > a lower reading than a capillary fingerstick. A fingerstick is your 
> > BG at the time of the stick, while the interstitial reading can be 
> > delayed 5- 20 minutes depending on many factors.
> > I calibrate after the warm up period a couple of times using a 
> > fingerstick. If my BG is low then I do a finger stick as the cgm is 
> > not that accurate if you're running low. This helps me use the right 
> > amount of carbohydrate to raise my BG. After my BG on the CGM is in 
> > the normal range then I calibrate again.
> > The Dexcom G7 is more accurate, lasts 10 days with a 12 hour grace 
> > period, and is easy to insert. My endo approves placing it on the 
> > abdomen if you don't like to use your arms. It is a good feature to 
> > be able to let a new sensor warmup in your body for 12 hours before 
> > disconnecting the expiring sensor and taking readings on the new one.
> > I'm thinking strongly about switching to the Libre 3 because it 
> > lasts
> > 14 days even though it may not be as accurate as the Dexcom G7. I'd 
> > like to try it out first to see how much "damage" the device creates 
> > in your tissue upon insertion. I build up scar tissue from sensor 
> > insertion requiring a search for more "real estate". Dexcom used to 
> > have a more generous free replacement policy if a sensor fails. It 
> > is now limited to three free replacements per year. The Libre 3 CGM 
> > is less
> expensive.
> > I'd try a complimentary Libre 3 first and if it works well, then I'm 
> > going to talk to my endo about switching, too!
> >
> > I'm glad you brought that topic up.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > *Jane Ferguson*
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 2:19?PM Maurice Mines via Diabetes-Talk < 
> > diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone this question has probably been asked on list before.
> >> But since I I am about to have that meeting with my primary 
> >> position, meeting time to decide which CGM I'm going to use for the 
> >> next three years, I think it's time to just at least look at the 
> >> pros and cons of both accessible systems.
> >>
> >> I'm currently using the Leber 3 System. In my specific situation, 
> >> I'm finding that the readings are at least 20 to 25 points off the 
> >> standard stick test. So of course I just have to do math most of 
> >> the time. Although this isn't a big issue it can be somewhat 
> >> annoying sometimes. I know many people on this list use the other 
> >> system, Dex com. What are the advantages, and more potential 
> >> disadvantages of potentially switching? Note I am not on insulin, and I'm trying to.
> >> And we all think that my diabetes is stable meaning I have very 
> >> good
> control. Broccoli 6.4 entrance of A1 c.
> >>
> >> I hope this is not considered TMI on list? It is certainly not a 
> >> scientific study and or even scientifically based, I'm just seeking 
> >> some information. Just to make an informed choice if I need to make 
> >> one? I'm likely to just stay with what I am using being asked my 
> >> doctor to continue using what I'm using for another three years. 
> >> Any
> thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maurice A. Mines, President
> >>
> >> National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
> >>
> >> Email: nfbdbpresident at mmines.org
> >>
> >> Website: www.nfb.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
> >>
> >> Live the life you want.
> >>
> >> The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud 
> >> division
> >>
> >> of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
> >> and
> >>
> >> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind.
> >> Every day
> >>
> >> we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> >> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
> >> for
> >> Diabetes-Talk:
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> >> 0gmail.com
> >>
> >
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