From joystigile at gmail.com  Mon Apr  3 23:56:03 2023
From: joystigile at gmail.com (joystigile at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 16:56:03 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: Come Join Us!
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From: Steve Cook <cookcafe at sc.rr.com> 
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 3:16 AM
To: joystigile at gmail.com
Subject: Come Join Us!

 

Happy April!! 

 

Please share with everyone! 

 

We have some exciting events for everyone to join the NFB of SC this month!
If you enjoy audio described movies, trivia, technology presentations,
getting fit or just talking about technology! Well, the NFB of SC is here
for you!!!!!! Be sure and read all the way to the bottom of this message to
read about the new Viewers Choice movie we are starting in May!!

 

The below listed events take place on the NFB of SC Zoom platform. 

 

Friday, April 7, 2023: audio described movie Mean Girls at 8:00 PM eastern

Saturday, April 8, 2023: Technology presentation about different podcast and
how to access them 11:00 AM Eastern

Friday, April 14, 2023: Audio described movie What's Love Got to Do with It
8:00 PM Eastern

Friday, April 21, 2023: Trivia Night 8:00 PM Eastern

SC Tech Talk: takes place every Saturday at 3:00 PM Eastern

 


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Mean Girls


 

Rating: PG 13

Run Time: 1 Hour and 37 minutes

 

Sixteen-year-old homeschooled Cady Heron and her parents return to the
United States after twelve years in Africa, settling in Evanston, Illinois.
After an intimidating first day at North Shore High School, Cady befriends
outsiders Janis Ian and Damian Leigh, who explain the school's various
cliques and warn her to avoid the "Plastics", a group consisting of wealthy
but insecure Gretchen Wieners, sweet but dimwitted Karen Smith, and "queen
bee" Regina George. When Cady is invited to sit with the Plastics at lunch,
Janis persuades her to infiltrate the ruling clique.

 

Cady becomes attracted to Aaron Samuels, a senior in her calculus class and
Regina's ex-boyfriend, and learns about the "Burn Book", a scrapbook the
Plastics fill with cruel rumors about students and faculty. Regina offers to
talk to Aaron on Cady's behalf, but instead kisses him in front of her and
resumes their relationship. Feeling betrayed, Cady fully commits to Janis'
plan to damage Regina's reputation. Regina tells Cady that she and Janis
were once friends until she accused Janis of being a lesbian and ostracized
her.

 

After their attempts to sabotage Regina's wardrobe backfire, Cady, Janis,
and Damian plan to turn Gretchen against her. They make it seem as though
Regina has sent "candy cane-grams" to Cady and Karen while excluding
Gretchen. Regina further humiliates Gretchen during their dance performance
at the Winter Talent Show, leading Gretchen to tell Cady all of Regina's
embarrassing secrets. Cady informs Aaron that Regina is cheating on him,
prompting them to break up, and tricks Regina into eating nutrition bars
that cause her to gain weight. Following a sharp drop in Regina's
reputation, she is replaced by Cady as the new "queen bee".

 

Cady throws a house party while her parents are away, and drunkenly admits
to Aaron that she has been deliberately failing math class to make him help
her, but he rebukes her for becoming as manipulative and image-obsessed as
Regina. Janis and Damian confront Cady for lying to them about the party and
remaking herself in Regina's image. Cady accuses Janis of being in love with
her, and Janis declares her a "mean girl" and renounces their friendship.

 

Realizing Cady's betrayal, Regina retaliates by distributing the contents of
the Burn Book throughout school, inciting chaos among the girls of the
junior class. She avoids suspicion by inserting insults about herself, and
blame is placed on Cady, Gretchen, and Karen. To restore order, Principal
Duvall and math teacher Ms. Norbury gather the female junior students in the
gym to apologize to each other. Regina insults Janis' sexuality, prompting
Janis to reveal her entire plan to destroy Regina's reputation as the
students cheer. Regina storms out, pursued by an apologetic Cady, and is
struck by a school bus, fracturing her spine.

 

When Ms. Norbury is investigated as a drug dealer due to comments Cady wrote
in the burn book, Cady takes full blame for the book. She is shunned by her
peers and distrusted by her own parents, but gradually returns to her old
self. She joins the school Mathletes at the state finals, answering the
tiebreaker correctly and winning the championship. The team arrives at the
Spring Fling dance, where Cady is elected queen, but declares that all her
classmates are wonderful in their own way, snapping the plastic tiara and
distributing the pieces to other girls in the crowd, including Janis,
Gretchen, and Regina. She rekindles her friendship with Janis and Damian,
makes up with Aaron, and reaches a truce with the Plastics.

 

The Plastics disband at the beginning of the new school year; Regina joins
the lacrosse team to positively manage her anger. Karen becomes the school
weather reporter, and Gretchen joins the "Cool Asians" clique. Aaron
graduates and attends Northwestern University while starting a relationship
with Cady. Reflecting on the relative social peace that has taken over North
Shore High, Cady notices a trio of new "Junior Plastics" in Freshman year,
and imagines them being hit by a bus.

 

Cast

Lindsay Lohan as Cady Heron, a 16-year-old girl who transfers to a public
high school after being homeschooled her whole life in Africa and Aaron
Samuels' love interest.

Jessie Wright as 5-year-old Cady.

Rachel McAdams as Regina George, a rich, popular mean girl. Regina is Janis'
ex-best friend, current rival and leader of The Plastics.

Lacey Chabert as Gretchen Wieners, an insecure rich girl and a member of the
Plastics who only wants Regina's acceptance.

Amanda Seyfried as Karen Smith, a ditsy but sweet member of the Plastics and
Gretchen's best friend.

Lizzy Caplan as Janis Ian, an artistic, rebellious goth who befriends Cady
and hatches a plan to take down Regina. Janis is Damian's best friend and
Regina's ex-best friend and current rival.

Daniel Franzese as Damian Leigh, Janis' gay best friend who is very
flamboyant.

Jonathan Bennett as Aaron Samuels, a Senior on the Football, Soccer and Swim
teams, Regina's ex-boyfriend, and Cady's love interest.

Rajiv Surendra as Kevin Gnapoor, the "hormonal Mathletes president" who is
attracted to Janis.

Tina Fey as Ms. Sharon Norbury, the school Math teacher, whom the Burn Book
defames as a drug dealer.

Tim Meadows as Principal Ron Duvall, the principal of North Shore High
School.

Amy Poehler as June George, Regina and Kylie's irresponsible mother.

Ana Gasteyer as Betsy Heron, Cady's mother.

Neil Flynn as Chip Heron, Cady's father.

Daniel DeSanto as Jason, Gretchen's unfaithful boyfriend.

Diego Klattenhoff as Shane Oman, a football player who has an on-and-off
relationship with Regina.

Alisha Morrison as Lea Edwards.

Julia Chantrey as Amber D'Alessio, a victim of the Burn Book.

Molly Shanahan as Kristen Hadley, an athletic girl on the Lacrosse team.

Jan Caruana as Emma Gerber.

Jacky Chamberlain as Giselle Sigro.

Olympia Lukis as Jessica Lopez.

Dwayne Hill as Coach Carr, the school's physical education teacher whom the
Burn Book exposes as a sex offender.

Jonathan Malen as Kristen's boyfriend.

Nicole Crimi as Kylie George, Regina's younger sister.

Dan Willmott as Mr. George, Regina and Kylie's wealthy father.

Laura de Carteret as Taylor Wedell's Mom

 


What's Love Got to Do with It


 

Rating: R

Run Time: 1 hour and 30 minutes

 

Raised in Nutbush, Tennessee in the early 1950s, Anna Mae Bullock returns
from being sent home from her Baptist church for oversinging when she sees
her mother Zelma leaving her home, this time for good. Returning back to her
house, she is distraught over her mother leaving and is consoled by her
grandmother Georgeanna. Six years later, a teenage Anna Mae relocates to St.
Louis, where she reunites with her elder sister Alline and her mother. While
in St. Louis, Anna is taken by Alline to a nightclub at East St. Louis
where, after viewing a performance by charismatic bandleader named Ike
Turner and his band the Kings of Rhythm, she pursues a position to sing with
Turner after noting women coming onstage to sing with the musician. One
night, Anna finally gets her chance to perform for Ike and impresses the
bandleader so much that he offers to mentor her and produce her music. In
time, Ike and Anna develop a close friendship.

 

As the first front woman of the Kings of Rhythm, along with the formation of
a backing girl group, later known as the Ikettes, Anna develops a local
popularity at the St. Louis club scene. However, after Ike's girlfriend,
Lorraine Taylor, shoots herself after confronting Anna on rumors she and Ike
had slept together, she and Ike begin an unexpected romance. After recording
the hit, "A Fool in Love", Anna becomes pregnant with their son Ronnie and
Anna learns, while in the hospital, that her name has changed to Tina Turner
after the radio station announces the name "Ike & Tina Turner" following the
playing of "A Fool in Love". Though told she was anaemic and in need of
three weeks rest in hospital following her pregnancy, Ike takes Tina out of
the hospital and convinces her to marry him in Tijuana. Problems begin
developing between Ike and Tina almost immediately after "A Fool in Love"
when Tina complains of being overworked, angering Ike to the point he
verbally abuses her before a show at the Apollo Theater. Despite this, when
Tina takes the stage that night to perform the song, the Ike & Tina Turner
Revue becomes a national sensation and relocates to Los Angeles. Upon
learning that Ike & Tina have moved to Los Angeles, Lorraine Taylor makes an
unexpected visit to their new home and drops off Ike's previous children,
Ike Jr. and Michael, with Tina's other sons Craig and Ronnie, which further
complicates matters at home.

 

One day while at home, Tina voices her opinion that Ike's music "all sounds
the same", which leads to Ike beating her in front of their four sons.
Following a performance on a teen rock and roll show in 1966, Tina is
offered a solo deal with Phil Spector for the song, "River Deep - Mountain
High", which upsets Ike, though he takes the $25,000 Spector offers to keep
out of the studio. Following the song's successful launch, Ike & Tina
celebrates by having lunch at a diner, but this ends when Tina gets into a
fight with Ike over him offering her a piece of pound cake, leading to a
public fight, which leads to one of the Ikettes, a close friend of Tina's,
leaving after Ike slaps her. Fed up with Ike's abuse one morning, Tina calls
her mother Zelma telling her she was leaving Ike and heading back to St.
Louis. But while on their way back, Ike learns of their whereabouts and
drags Tina back to California. While opening for the Rolling Stones in
London, Ike & Tina find success with their recording of "Proud Mary", which
transforms the Revue from a national R&B phenomenon to an international
sensation. Overtime, crowds begin clamoring more to Tina than Ike, which
causes further tension as Ike discovers cocaine.

 

During one recording session of the song, "Nutbush City Limits" in 1973, an
addicted Ike verbally attacks Tina for not singing the song properly,
blaming her for the duo's issues in following their previous hits. After
hitting Tina repeatedly, he initiates raping Tina. Finding no chance of
escape, one night, Tina overdoses a full bottle of sleeping pills before a
show and is rushed to a hospital where she recovers. Tina eventually visits
a friend, a former Ikette, who convinces her to practice Buddhism and the
chant Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, telling her that the chanting would "change her
life". Though skeptical, Tina attempts it and soon begins feverishly
chanting, to the shock of onlookers, including Ike, who is distracted by the
new Tina. Then, in 1976, while en route to a show in Dallas, a fed-up Tina
begins to annoy Ike. While in the limousine on their way to the hotel, Ike
and Tina engage in a physical fight which leaves them both bloodied and
battered. Upon their entry, Ike falls asleep and Tina makes her escape with
only her purse. Afraid of being found out, Tina runs to the back of the
hotel and faces oncoming traffic before arriving at a Ramada Inn where she
pleads to the hotel manager that she needs a room despite only having 36
cents on her person, the manager agrees and gives Tina the room. Tina later
files for divorce and in the final matter, Tina agrees to give up everything
except her stage name, which is granted.

 

In 1980, Tina begins rebuilding her career at the cabaret circuit and
invites a young impresario named Roger Davies to see her perform so he could
manage her and help her realize her dreams as a rock star. Impressed that
she still could perform, Davies agrees to manage her. Still, the presence of
Ike threatens to derail her chances. After one rehearsal, Ike spots her and
tries to convince her to return back to him. When she refuses, Ike gets
belligerent and Tina leaves before Ike becomes violent. One night, around
1983, while watching an interview of herself on TV, a battered Ike Jr. comes
to her house, warning her that Ike has plans of killing her. Turning to her
Buddhist faith, she prepares for a show at the Ritz Theatre where Ike
confronts her at her dressing room with a gun. Undeterred, Tina verbally
silences him and leaves the dressing room where she dazzles the audience at
the Ritz with her new hit single, "What's Love Got to Do with It" where she
eventually realizes her dream of being a rock superstar.

 

Cast

Angela Bassett as Tina Turner, born Anna Mae Bullock

Rae'Ven Larrymore Kelly as young Anna Mae

Cora Lee Day as Grandma Georgiana

Khandi Alexander as Darlene

Laurence Fishburne as Ike Turner

Jenifer Lewis as Zelma Bullock, Tina's mother

Phyllis Yvonne Stickney as Alline Bullock

Penny Johnson Jerald as Lorraine Taylor

Vanessa Bell Calloway as Jackie

Chi McBride as Fross

Sherman Augustus as Reggie

Terrence Riggins as Spider

Bo Kane as Dance Show Host

Terrence Evans as Bus Driver

Rob LaBelle as Phil Spector

James Reyne as Roger Davies

Richard T. Jones as Ike Turner Jr.

Shavar Ross as Michael Turner

Damon Hines as Ronnie Turner

Suli McCullough as Craig Turner

Elijah B. Saleem as teenage Ike Turner Jr.

 


Palmetto Zoom Event


 

Be sure to join our Sports and Rec Division for "Get Fit Sessions" every
Tuesdays at 5:30 PM and Saturdays at 9:00 AM on the below Palmetto Zoom
platform!

 

The National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina Sports and Recreation
Division is a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind. We
know that blindness is not the characteristic that keeps us from achieving
our health, wellness, and athletic goals. The Sports and Recreation Division
serves as a community around sports, recreation, health, and wellness.

Obesity and a sedentary lifestyle are two of the biggest health concerns
across the United States. Both are more prevalent among blind individuals.
The Sports and Recreation Division works diligently to raise awareness of
health concerns related to exercise, nutrition, and wellness. We serve as a
network of experts to help blind people break down barriers to full
participation in sports, recreation, and exercise. We are also a great
source of support for gyms, community recreation programs, and others in the
health and wellness arena who want to make their services more accessible to
the blind.

>From the seasoned blind sports and recreation participant to the blind
person who is considering beginning an exercise, sports, or wellness
regiment this is the community for you!


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Viewers Choice


 

In May, the viewers will choose our 2nd movie for the month. Below is a list
of movies to choose from. I ask that you send your vote to
<mailto:cookcafe at sc.rr.com> cookcafe at sc.rr.com or text me at 803 260 1292.
The movie with the most votes will be shown in May! 

 

12 years a slave

Whitney Houston I Wanna Dance with Somebody 

Everything Everywhere All At Once 

Dirty Dancing

 

Steve Cook

Do you enjoy reading books? How about discussing books? Well we would like
to invite you to the group for the discussion and recommendation of books
for everyone! To subscribe to this list, send a message to
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Apr  5 20:37:31 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:37:31 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
Message-ID: <7d41f67c.beeb.46db.83a2.f4c6319fe208@samobile.net>

Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
Everything is turned on in the settings,
I don't wish to start another one until I understand
Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
Dar


From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Apr  5 20:42:18 2023
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 16:42:18 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] prodigy talking meters and bluetooth
Message-ID: <5a8a6e16-586a-e795-1071-fa8e90be1d8b@panix.com>

Can these meters pair with other bluetooth devices?


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.


From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Apr  5 21:00:26 2023
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:00:26 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] recalls
Message-ID: <48636c40-2872-c396-247b-31c9f04e3b9@panix.com>

https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/abbott-issues-safety-notification-freestyle-librer-family-readers-us


-- 
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
Please use in that order."
Ed Howdershelt 1940.


From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  5 23:32:33 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 16:32:33 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <7d41f67c.beeb.46db.83a2.f4c6319fe208@samobile.net>
References: <7d41f67c.beeb.46db.83a2.f4c6319fe208@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <00a701d96816$e64d5fe0$b2e81fa0$@gmail.com>

If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor failure
I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another one
until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
Dar

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Apr  6 00:56:44 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 20:56:44 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <00a701d96816$e64d5fe0$b2e81fa0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>

That was the dumb part
it just stopped saying nothing.
I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
it didn't loll.
Thanks,
Dar
Original message:
> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor failure
> I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another one
> until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
> Dar

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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 07:02:14 2023
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 03:02:14 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>
References: <00a701d96816$e64d5fe0$b2e81fa0$@gmail.com>
 <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>

Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when it
begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it has
happened to me several times.

Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

That was the dumb part
it just stopped saying nothing.
I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and it
didn't loll.
Thanks,
Dar
Original message:
> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another 
> one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix
it.
> Dar

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 07:29:55 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 00:29:55 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>
References: <00a701d96816$e64d5fe0$b2e81fa0$@gmail.com>
 <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <003b01d96859$95fe2860$c1fa7920$@gmail.com>

So sorry to hear that  your still having issues.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 5:57 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

That was the dumb part
it just stopped saying nothing.
I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and it
didn't loll.
Thanks,
Dar
Original message:
> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another 
> one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix
it.
> Dar

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Apr  6 14:04:00 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 10:04:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>

I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense 
to me at all.
Dar
Original message:
> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when it
> begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it has
> happened to me several times.

> Walter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> That was the dumb part
> it just stopped saying nothing.
> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and it
> didn't loll.
> Thanks,
> Dar
> Original message:
>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor
>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another
>> one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix
> it.
>> Dar

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From mota1252 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 14:36:14 2023
From: mota1252 at gmail.com (Milton)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:36:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
References: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>
 <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <013901d96895$249a7b60$6dcf7220$@gmail.com>

Hello,

I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model is
compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?

I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible with the
Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been without my continuous
glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I went in to see my Diabetes
Educator and I temporarily switch to the Libra 2 which worked until I was
able to get my doctor to submit a new prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on
my second transmitter/sensor for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still
unable to update my iOS to 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone
will only work with iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a
regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.

I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure your
phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you need the web
address to the page, let me know.

Milton Ota
E: mota1252 at gmail.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
at all.
Dar
Original message:
> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when 
> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it 
> has happened to me several times.

> Walter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> That was the dumb part
> it just stopped saying nothing.
> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
> it didn't loll.
> Thanks,
> Dar
> Original message:
>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>> how did you fix
> it.
>> Dar

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>> g
>> mail.c
>> om


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From diana56cook at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 14:47:02 2023
From: diana56cook at gmail.com (Diana Cook)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 10:47:02 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>
References: <f3a9e72a.a9ce.47c0.8540.f453c3da9af8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <C6298F08-BE31-4643-86B9-C41BF947EF58@gmail.com>

Hi Dar,  did you get the 2 clicks after attaching sensor? Diana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2023, at 20:57, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?That was the dumb part
> it just stopped saying nothing.
> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and it didn't loll.
> Thanks,
> Dar
> Original message:
>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor failure
>> I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.
> 
>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>> via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another one
>> until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
>> Dar
> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Thu Apr  6 15:00:48 2023
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 11:00:48 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <C6298F08-BE31-4643-86B9-C41BF947EF58@gmail.com>
References: <C6298F08-BE31-4643-86B9-C41BF947EF58@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B3B5F34-35F9-4EEE-94B4-3C87A734EC61@icloud.com>

Yes-I would ask the same thing about getting two clicks. I have thought my sensor was attached correctly before, but it was only partially attached. I was unable to click it down OR remove the transmitter without taking it completely off and starting over again. Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Diana Cook via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Dar,  did you get the 2 clicks after attaching sensor? Diana 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 20:57, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor failure
>>> I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.
>> 
>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
>> 
>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another one
>>> until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
>>> Dar
>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
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From gtwocher at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 17:21:08 2023
From: gtwocher at gmail.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 13:21:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <013901d96895$249a7b60$6dcf7220$@gmail.com>
References: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>
 <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
 <013901d96895$249a7b60$6dcf7220$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B9790132-A8DD-4CCC-9AB1-0D7E8B5BFCF8@gmail.com>

Hello,
I am using the dexcom G6 app on my iPhone 12 running iOS 16.4 with no issues. The apps work just fine on the latest version of iOS. I also know of people who are using the G6 with an iPhone 14pro just fine as well. 

Greg Wocher


> On Apr 6, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Milton via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
> Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model is
> compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?
> 
> I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible with the
> Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been without my continuous
> glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I went in to see my Diabetes
> Educator and I temporarily switch to the Libra 2 which worked until I was
> able to get my doctor to submit a new prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on
> my second transmitter/sensor for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still
> unable to update my iOS to 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone
> will only work with iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a
> regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.
> 
> I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure your
> phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you need the web
> address to the page, let me know.
> 
> Milton Ota
> E: mota1252 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
> This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
> at all.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when 
>> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it 
>> has happened to me several times.
> 
>> Walter
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>> That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.
> 
>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>>> how did you fix
>> it.
>>> Dar
> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/lfitz50%40
>>> g
>>> mail.c
>>> om
> 
> 
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>>> y
>>> sero.net
> 
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>> ch2%40
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> 
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 17:59:48 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 10:59:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
References: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>
 <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <009401d968b1$94bc5190$be34f4b0$@gmail.com>

Upgrade to what  . The I  OS and voice over or the dexcom an the app. You
need to  explain so we can better help you out.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
at all.
Dar
Original message:
> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when 
> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it 
> has happened to me several times.

> Walter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> That was the dumb part
> it just stopped saying nothing.
> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
> it didn't loll.
> Thanks,
> Dar
> Original message:
>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>> how did you fix
> it.
>> Dar

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Apr  6 21:01:08 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 17:01:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
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Message-ID: <bcd26e57.da72.4be0.a4f6.b4a930b0f308@samobile.net>

Yes I did, put it on correctly.
Wore it for a week I know then it stopped just because.
Then it wouldn't go again.
It says loss, like it can't reach the WiFi.
Everything is turned on.
Dar
Original message:
> Hi Dar,  did you get the 2 clicks after attaching sensor? Diana

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 20:57, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> ?That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor failure
>>> I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another one
>>> until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
>>> Dar

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Apr  6 21:13:57 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 17:13:57 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <2B3B5F34-35F9-4EEE-94B4-3C87A734EC61@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <e95087c0.0339.41ce.90b9.6b42a3adff3b@samobile.net>

I'm not worried about that,
It is the spot that says not good connecction.
Or what ever it says
I took it off don't want to put on another one until the phone starts 
from the beginning.
Dar
Original message:
> Yes-I would ask the same thing about getting two clicks. I have thought 
> my sensor was attached correctly before, but it was only partially 
> attached. I was unable to click it down OR remove the transmitter 
> without taking it completely off and starting over again. Melanie

> Sent from Melanie's i phone

>> On Apr 6, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Diana Cook via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> ?Hi Dar,  did you get the 2 clicks after attaching sensor? Diana

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 20:57, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> ?That was the dumb part
>>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>>> it didn't loll.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dar
>>> Original message:
>>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor failure
>>>> I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>>> Ham call K5FPT

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start another one
>>>> until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and how did you fix it.
>>>> Dar

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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 21:23:23 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:23:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <013901d96895$249a7b60$6dcf7220$@gmail.com>
References: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>
 <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
 <013901d96895$249a7b60$6dcf7220$@gmail.com>
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I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with the
Dexcom G7.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Hello,

I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model is
compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?

I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible with the
Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been without my continuous
glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I went in to see my Diabetes
Educator and I temporarily switch to the Libra 2 which worked until I was
able to get my doctor to submit a new prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on
my second transmitter/sensor for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still
unable to update my iOS to 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone
will only work with iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a
regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.

I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure your
phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you need the web
address to the page, let me know.

Milton Ota
E: mota1252 at gmail.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
at all.
Dar
Original message:
> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when 
> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it 
> has happened to me several times.

> Walter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> That was the dumb part
> it just stopped saying nothing.
> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
> it didn't loll.
> Thanks,
> Dar
> Original message:
>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>> how did you fix
> it.
>> Dar

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Apr  6 21:26:40 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 17:26:40 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
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Message-ID: <6a937040.d834.4edd.9899.e4afd4a93dc7@samobile.net>

I have the 14. Been working all this time.
Dar
Original message:
> I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with the
> Dexcom G7.

> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> Hello,

> I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
> Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model is
> compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?

> I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible with the
> Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been without my continuous
> glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I went in to see my Diabetes
> Educator and I temporarily switch to the Libra 2 which worked until I was
> able to get my doctor to submit a new prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on
> my second transmitter/sensor for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still
> unable to update my iOS to 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone
> will only work with iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a
> regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.

> I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure your
> phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you need the web
> address to the page, let me know.

> Milton Ota
> E: mota1252 at gmail.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
> This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
> at all.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when
>> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it
>> has happened to me several times.

>> Walter


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>> That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor
>>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start
>>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and
>>> how did you fix
>> it.
>>> Dar

>>> _______________________________________________
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From pmaddix at comcast.net  Thu Apr  6 21:52:47 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:52:47 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <007301d968ce$054e75c0$0feb6140$@gmail.com>
References: <007301d968ce$054e75c0$0feb6140$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B8F03656-A8CE-476D-848E-4EDD7F46B991@comcast.net>

Les,

That is great that you now have the Dexcom G7. I am anxious for my pump to become compatible with it so I can also upgrade. In the meantime, I am really anxious to know what it looks like, and feels like in comparison to the old one. I know the device is smaller and assume that the applicator is also much smaller.  Is the sensor code on the paper tabs on the sensor like it was before and is it easy to scan with a Phone app? Is it easier to insert a sensor. Would love any feedback and descriptions you can share.
Patricia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with the
> Dexcom G7.
> 
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
> Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model is
> compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?
> 
> I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible with the
> Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been without my continuous
> glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I went in to see my Diabetes
> Educator and I temporarily switch to the Libra 2 which worked until I was
> able to get my doctor to submit a new prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on
> my second transmitter/sensor for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still
> unable to update my iOS to 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone
> will only work with iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a
> regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.
> 
> I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure your
> phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you need the web
> address to the page, let me know.
> 
> Milton Ota
> E: mota1252 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
> This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
> at all.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when 
>> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it 
>> has happened to me several times.
> 
>> Walter
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>> That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.
> 
>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>>> how did you fix
>> it.
>>> Dar
> 
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 22:14:12 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:14:12 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <000001d968d3$ed46ab40$c7d401c0$@Domain>
References: <007301d968ce$054e75c0$0feb6140$@gmail.com>
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Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: 
Sent: None
To: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Patricia, it's about the shape and size of a small drink glass wit5h straight sides with a rubber coated button on one side The code is on the oposite side as the button.  All you so is screw off the bottom of the unit and put the part with the button where yu want the sensor where you want it and push the button, and that's all you do.  Whe. You unscrew the bottom part of the unit there is no tape there so you can move it around if you like to get the best position and then you press the button. Dexcom says to use an over patch but I messed up the last over patdh so I have been using it without one and it's been staying on just fine even after a shower.Dexcom says to put it on the back of your arm but I've had one on the back of each are and bot times I ripped it off either sticking my hand in the dryer or going through a door way. So now I have it on my theighjust about a hands with above my knee, and it seems to work great there.  Now if it would just give me lower readings that would be great.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 2:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: mota1252 at gmail.com; Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Les,

That is great that you now have the Dexcom G7. I am anxious for my pump to become compatible with it so I can also upgrade. In the meantime, I am really anxious to know what it looks like, and feels like in comparison to the old one. I know the device is smaller and assume that the applicator is also much smaller.  Is the sensor code on the paper tabs on the sensor like it was before and is it easy to scan with a Phone app? Is it easier to insert a sensor. Would love any feedback and descriptions you can share.
Patricia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with 
> the Dexcom G7.
>
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
> Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model 
> is compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?
>
> I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible 
> with the Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been 
> without my continuous glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I 
> went in to see my Diabetes Educator and I temporarily switch to the 
> Libra 2 which worked until I was able to get my doctor to submit a new 
> prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on my second transmitter/sensor 
> for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still unable to update my iOS to
> 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone will only work with 
> iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a regular basis 
> for when I can update to 16.4.
>
> I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure 
> your phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you 
> need the web address to the page, let me know.
>
> Milton Ota
> E: mota1252 at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
>
> I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
> This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense 
> to me at all.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is 
>> when it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, 
>> but it has happened to me several times.
>
>> Walter
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
>
>> That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a 
>>> replacement.
>
>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
>
>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>>> how did you fix
>> it.
>>> Dar
>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/lfitz50%4
>>> 0
>>> g
>>> mail.c
>>> om
>
>
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
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>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> m
>>> y
>>> sero.net
>
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>> t
>> ch2%40
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>
>
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 22:24:42 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:24:42 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <B8F03656-A8CE-476D-848E-4EDD7F46B991@comcast.net>
References: <007301d968ce$054e75c0$0feb6140$@gmail.com>
 <B8F03656-A8CE-476D-848E-4EDD7F46B991@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000e01d968d6$95fc99f0$c1f5cdd0$@gmail.com>

I wonder the same thing . how is easy to use.what is the cost for it with and without insurance.so i could have  this as  a back up plan when the time comes to take a look at these different cgm  solutions as I do already have the   libre 2 and I have been happy with it for the past  few years that  I have had it. i wanted to check out both the libre 3  and the dexcom g7 and se which would be cost effective and easy to maintain out of pocket just in case there  are issues with insurance coverage as I have a  very weird coverage plan in California.its  a hyberate  plan with a combination of HMO and PPO and there are some things  that are covered and other  thing are not.it just depends. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 2:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Les,

That is great that you now have the Dexcom G7. I am anxious for my pump to become compatible with it so I can also upgrade. In the meantime, I am really anxious to know what it looks like, and feels like in comparison to the old one. I know the device is smaller and assume that the applicator is also much smaller.  Is the sensor code on the paper tabs on the sensor like it was before and is it easy to scan with a Phone app? Is it easier to insert a sensor. Would love any feedback and descriptions you can share.
Patricia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with 
> the Dexcom G7.
> 
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
> Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model 
> is compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?
> 
> I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible 
> with the Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been 
> without my continuous glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I 
> went in to see my Diabetes Educator and I temporarily switch to the 
> Libra 2 which worked until I was able to get my doctor to submit a new 
> prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on my second transmitter/sensor 
> for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still unable to update my iOS to 
> 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone will only work with 
> iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.
> 
> I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure 
> your phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you 
> need the web address to the page, let me know.
> 
> Milton Ota
> E: mota1252 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
> This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense 
> to me at all.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is 
>> when it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, 
>> but it has happened to me several times.
> 
>> Walter
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>> That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.
> 
>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>>> how did you fix
>> it.
>>> Dar
> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/lfitz50%4
>>> 0
>>> g
>>> mail.c
>>> om
> 
> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40
>>> m
>>> y
>>> sero.net
> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> t
>> ch2%40
>> gmail.com
> 
> 
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> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 22:25:48 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:25:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <007301d968ce$054e75c0$0feb6140$@gmail.com>
References: <004a01d96855$b7d04990$2770dcb0$@gmail.com>
 <aaaad8ef.c0d7.46c7.a960.2660df61b93f@samobile.net>
 <013901d96895$249a7b60$6dcf7220$@gmail.com>
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I am an android user.so I wonder how the dexcom  g7 app will work with my
Samsung device with talkback .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Les
Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 2:23 PM
To: mota1252 at gmail.com; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with the
Dexcom G7.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Hello,

I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model is
compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?

I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible with the
Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been without my continuous
glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I went in to see my Diabetes
Educator and I temporarily switch to the Libra 2 which worked until I was
able to get my doctor to submit a new prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on
my second transmitter/sensor for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still
unable to update my iOS to 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone
will only work with iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a
regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.

I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure your
phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you need the web
address to the page, let me know.

Milton Ota
E: mota1252 at gmail.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense to me
at all.
Dar
Original message:
> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is when 
> it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, but it 
> has happened to me several times.

> Walter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

> That was the dumb part
> it just stopped saying nothing.
> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
> it didn't loll.
> Thanks,
> Dar
> Original message:
>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.

>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
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>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>> how did you fix
> it.
>> Dar

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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 22:30:59 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:30:59 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
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I have no idea what it costs my insurance pays for it completely.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

I wonder the same thing . how is easy to use.what is the cost for it with and without insurance.so i could have  this as  a back up plan when the time comes to take a look at these different cgm  solutions as I do already have the   libre 2 and I have been happy with it for the past  few years that  I have had it. i wanted to check out both the libre 3  and the dexcom g7 and se which would be cost effective and easy to maintain out of pocket just in case there  are issues with insurance coverage as I have a  very weird coverage plan in California.its  a hyberate  plan with a combination of HMO and PPO and there are some things  that are covered and other  thing are not.it just depends. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 2:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question

Les,

That is great that you now have the Dexcom G7. I am anxious for my pump to become compatible with it so I can also upgrade. In the meantime, I am really anxious to know what it looks like, and feels like in comparison to the old one. I know the device is smaller and assume that the applicator is also much smaller.  Is the sensor code on the paper tabs on the sensor like it was before and is it easy to scan with a Phone app? Is it easier to insert a sensor. Would love any feedback and descriptions you can share.
Patricia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I'm using IOS 16.4 with the Iphone 13 mini and it works great with 
> the Dexcom G7.
> 
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:36 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been following your post and troubles with your Dexcom and iPhone.
> Have you gone to the Dexcom website to see if your iOS and phone model 
> is compatible with the version of your Dexcom app?
> 
> I found that my iPhone 14 Pro running iOS 16.3.1 was not compatible 
> with the Dexcom G6 about a week before Thanksgiving. I had been 
> without my continuous glucose monitor since then. About 4 weeks ago I 
> went in to see my Diabetes Educator and I temporarily switch to the 
> Libra 2 which worked until I was able to get my doctor to submit a new 
> prescription for the Dexcom G7. I'm on my second transmitter/sensor 
> for the G7 and all is going well. I'm still unable to update my iOS to
> 16.4 as the Dexcom website tells me that my phone will only work with 
> iOS 616.3. I have been watching the Dexcom website on a regular basis for when I can update to 16.4.
> 
> I suggest that you take the time to check the website to make sure 
> your phone and Dexcom is properly matched for compatibility. If you 
> need the web address to the page, let me know.
> 
> Milton Ota
> E: mota1252 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
> I did that as well, but it still didn't come back.
> This foolishness has started with the upgrade, just doesn't make sense 
> to me at all.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Sometimes I close the app completely down and re-open it. That is 
>> when it begins to talk to me again. I don't know why that happens, 
>> but it has happened to me several times.
> 
>> Walter
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:57 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>> That was the dumb part
>> it just stopped saying nothing.
>> I even waited until this morning to see if something would change and 
>> it didn't loll.
>> Thanks,
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> If it tells you to wait up to 3 hours then I wait if it says sensor 
>>> failure I stop it then replace it and then call Dexcom for a replacement.
> 
>>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>>> Ham call K5FPT
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:38 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A question
> 
>>> Yesterday my dexcom decided to stop working.
>>> Everything is turned on in the settings, I don't wish to start 
>>> another one until I understand Has anyone had the same problem and 
>>> how did you fix
>> it.
>>> Dar
> 
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From hmladek at neo.rr.com  Fri Apr  7 02:33:44 2023
From: hmladek at neo.rr.com (Rick Mladek)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 22:33:44 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FreeStyle Libre recall
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April 6, 2023 

Breaking News 
 
Abbott faces Class I recall of 4.2M glucose readers over lithium battery woes

Abbott has initiated a recall for readers for its FreeStyle Libre glucose monitoring systems, which are at risk of catching fire if improperly stored or charged, according to the Food and Drug Administration. The agency categorized the recall as Class I, the most serious category of problems with medical devices, which can cause serious injury or death. 

Abbott said the readers, handheld devices that take information from a continuous glucose monitor attached to a patient?s body, use rechargeable lithium-ion batteries, which may get extremely hot, spark, or catch fire if not properly stored, charged, or used with the USB cable and power adapter that Abbott provided.  
 
Contact your proper people regarding this information.

Rick



From dmgina at mysero.net  Fri Apr  7 02:54:11 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 22:54:11 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FreeStyle Libre recall
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Oh my goodness,
I hope no one got hurt.
Thanks for sharing.
Dar
Original message:
> April 6, 2023

> Breaking News

> Abbott faces Class I recall of 4.2M glucose readers over lithium battery woes

> Abbott has initiated a recall for readers for its FreeStyle Libre 
> glucose monitoring systems, which are at risk of catching fire if 
> improperly stored or charged, according to the Food and Drug 
> Administration. The agency categorized the recall as Class I, the most 
> serious category of problems with medical devices, which can cause 
> serious injury or death.

> Abbott said the readers, handheld devices that take information from a 
> continuous glucose monitor attached to a patient?s body, use 
> rechargeable lithium-ion batteries, which may get extremely hot, spark, 
> or catch fire if not properly stored, charged, or used with the USB 
> cable and power adapter that Abbott provided.

> Contact your proper people regarding this information.

> Rick


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From info at accessiblepharmacy.com  Wed Apr  5 15:13:50 2023
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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blindness and Glaucoma Webinar: Registration is Now
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From debbiewunder at charter.net  Sat Apr  8 17:15:59 2023
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (debbiewunder at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 12:15:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A reminder about my request to the list
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Hi, folks. We still need stories, so I am resending my request. If you have already helped, I apologize for the repetitive email. If not, please send us a story. This is as critical as anything we do.

This message is from Justin Young:

I?m reaching out to you in your leadership capacities as leaders of the Diabetes Action Network of the National Federation of the Blind. I was wondering if the DAN would be willing to assist with advocacy efforts on the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act? We had a very productive meeting with Senator Susan Collins office last week related to the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act. One area that is of very great interest to the Senator is diabetes and learning more about accessible medical devices used by blind diabetics.
 
So we are looking for examples of diabetes related products that are inaccessible for blind users. We think it would be very powerful if we had five or so individuals send a story via email to jyoung at nfb.org describing what if any struggles faced by using an inaccessible device and why incorporating accessibility would be important.
 
We greatly appreciate your help and I?m happy to discuss this further via phone if that helps.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Justin T. Young, Ed.D
Government Affairs Specialist
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 410-659-9314, extension 2210 | jyoung at nfb.org 
 
 
 
 
                                    
 
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From debbiewunder at charter.net  Sat Apr  8 18:47:24 2023
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (debbiewunder at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 13:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] My story
Message-ID: <000e01d96a4a$8f3241e0$ad96c5a0$@charter.net>

I thought perhaps sharing my story might be an example. Thanks for anyone
who also write and shares.

 

Warmly,

 

Debbie

 

How the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act Has Turned Me into an
Impassioned Advocate

By Debbie Wunder

 

Talking about laws and the Congress is intimidating, but the Medical Device
Nonvisual Accessibility Act forced me to move into the uncomfortable and
what (for me) was once the unthinkable area of public policy.

I am an insulin-dependent diabetic. I know lots of us because I serve as the
president of the Diabetes Action Network (DAN). I have been pushed out of my
comfort zone in this position, to which I was elected by my peers. Others
began trusting me to advocate on their behalf. Drugs with inaccessible
labels, medications that are difficult (or impossible) to measure, and
blood-sugar-monitoring equipment all conspire to make blind people dependent
on others. Some of these things are changing. We can now measure our insulin
and other medications, and many of those medications are now labeled
accessibly. 

Far too often, getting the technology we need is still difficult and
sometimes impossible. Monitoring blood sugar used to take a needle stick,
putting blood on a strip, and then inserting that strip into a machine. A
blind person would hope all the while that they got enough blood to be
measured, because doing so was difficult. If not, they would have to resign
themselves to the pain of going back to step one. Now, there are at least
two continuous glucose-monitoring devices that require a stick only once
every ten or fourteen days. The catch is that the readers sold for these
sensors aren't usable without vision. Thankfully, those of us with
smartphones can read the sensors to measure our blood sugar and be alerted
when our levels are dangerously low or unhealthily high. We determine how
much insulin to take (usually through shots) based on these readings.

The better way to regulate blood sugar is through the use of insulin
pumps-devices that quickly give insulin before blood sugar varies enough to
require much medication. A person must wait until blood sugar goes above 180
before injecting a shot to drop it to 120 or less. The insulin pump begins
the flow of insulin when the sugar starts rising and stops when it starts
returning to the desired level. This does a far better job of keeping blood
sugar within an acceptable range, resulting in less damage and a longer
life.

This is great technology, but not so much for blind people. No unit on the
market talks. Not one reliably beeps to indicate the increment of the level
being adjusted. Few are easy to load with insulin or to monitor when
additional insulin is required. Of the few blind people I know who use
insulin pumps, even fewer can do so independently. For many of us, the
challenges and dangers are just too great.

The problem is more than caring for ourselves. I was my mother's caretaker
for a time. She needed me to administer oxygen and many medications. Neither
of the machines she used gave a single clue as to the way a blind person
should regulate their output. Often she was unable to make these adjustments
for herself, so I gambled. Having to guess and to hope that I was right was
nerve-wracking. A single wrong guess would have put her in danger.

The Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act can change all of this. When
the law mandates that devices must talk, beep, and have accessible controls,
every blind person will have more independence. But this law will change
more than just technology. It will help change the perception that blind
patients cannot take care of themselves and must consequently be taken care
of. It will change the idea that blindness equals dependence, and that
dependence means reliance on others for important medical care. The passage
of this act will attack both the visible problem of inaccessibility and the
attitudinal problem that causes inaccessibility to not only exist, but to
persist. We must take charge of our technology, rather than be subjected to
continual dependence because of it. We must do it for ourselves and for
those we love who need us. Therefore, I will take on the law, participate in
its introduction, push for its progression through the Congress, and press
as it moves from a statute to an implemented law complete with regulations
and adherence. Then I will stop talking about the need. I will start talking
about the way we use the law. We will put technology to work for us, rather
than making us victims in the beautiful age of digital machines that should
bring access to all of us the world over.

 

Debbie Wunder

 

 

 


From pmaddix at comcast.net  Sat Apr  8 19:00:17 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 12:00:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] My story
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References: <000e01d96a4a$8f3241e0$ad96c5a0$@charter.net>
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That was a fabulous letter, Debi. I also sent one in last week.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I thought perhaps sharing my story might be an example. Thanks for anyone
> who also write and shares.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> 
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
> 
> How the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act Has Turned Me into an
> Impassioned Advocate
> 
> By Debbie Wunder
> 
> 
> 
> Talking about laws and the Congress is intimidating, but the Medical Device
> Nonvisual Accessibility Act forced me to move into the uncomfortable and
> what (for me) was once the unthinkable area of public policy.
> 
> I am an insulin-dependent diabetic. I know lots of us because I serve as the
> president of the Diabetes Action Network (DAN). I have been pushed out of my
> comfort zone in this position, to which I was elected by my peers. Others
> began trusting me to advocate on their behalf. Drugs with inaccessible
> labels, medications that are difficult (or impossible) to measure, and
> blood-sugar-monitoring equipment all conspire to make blind people dependent
> on others. Some of these things are changing. We can now measure our insulin
> and other medications, and many of those medications are now labeled
> accessibly. 
> 
> Far too often, getting the technology we need is still difficult and
> sometimes impossible. Monitoring blood sugar used to take a needle stick,
> putting blood on a strip, and then inserting that strip into a machine. A
> blind person would hope all the while that they got enough blood to be
> measured, because doing so was difficult. If not, they would have to resign
> themselves to the pain of going back to step one. Now, there are at least
> two continuous glucose-monitoring devices that require a stick only once
> every ten or fourteen days. The catch is that the readers sold for these
> sensors aren't usable without vision. Thankfully, those of us with
> smartphones can read the sensors to measure our blood sugar and be alerted
> when our levels are dangerously low or unhealthily high. We determine how
> much insulin to take (usually through shots) based on these readings.
> 
> The better way to regulate blood sugar is through the use of insulin
> pumps-devices that quickly give insulin before blood sugar varies enough to
> require much medication. A person must wait until blood sugar goes above 180
> before injecting a shot to drop it to 120 or less. The insulin pump begins
> the flow of insulin when the sugar starts rising and stops when it starts
> returning to the desired level. This does a far better job of keeping blood
> sugar within an acceptable range, resulting in less damage and a longer
> life.
> 
> This is great technology, but not so much for blind people. No unit on the
> market talks. Not one reliably beeps to indicate the increment of the level
> being adjusted. Few are easy to load with insulin or to monitor when
> additional insulin is required. Of the few blind people I know who use
> insulin pumps, even fewer can do so independently. For many of us, the
> challenges and dangers are just too great.
> 
> The problem is more than caring for ourselves. I was my mother's caretaker
> for a time. She needed me to administer oxygen and many medications. Neither
> of the machines she used gave a single clue as to the way a blind person
> should regulate their output. Often she was unable to make these adjustments
> for herself, so I gambled. Having to guess and to hope that I was right was
> nerve-wracking. A single wrong guess would have put her in danger.
> 
> The Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act can change all of this. When
> the law mandates that devices must talk, beep, and have accessible controls,
> every blind person will have more independence. But this law will change
> more than just technology. It will help change the perception that blind
> patients cannot take care of themselves and must consequently be taken care
> of. It will change the idea that blindness equals dependence, and that
> dependence means reliance on others for important medical care. The passage
> of this act will attack both the visible problem of inaccessibility and the
> attitudinal problem that causes inaccessibility to not only exist, but to
> persist. We must take charge of our technology, rather than be subjected to
> continual dependence because of it. We must do it for ourselves and for
> those we love who need us. Therefore, I will take on the law, participate in
> its introduction, push for its progression through the Congress, and press
> as it moves from a statute to an implemented law complete with regulations
> and adherence. Then I will stop talking about the need. I will start talking
> about the way we use the law. We will put technology to work for us, rather
> than making us victims in the beautiful age of digital machines that should
> bring access to all of us the world over.
> 
> 
> 
> Debbie Wunder
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From gwunder at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  9 01:06:24 2023
From: gwunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 20:06:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] My marriage demands I tell my story
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As the husband of our president and a member of the Diabetes Action Network Board, it is long past time when I should have written my story. It is not as dramatic as hers, but I will send it to Justin and offer it here for whatever it is worth. To make it more interesting for readers, I wrote what you see, then submitted it to ChatGPT to see what it would do with the story. It is included here as well. As a writer, I feel like I'm in a race, and artificial intelligence is in hot pursuit. Here is my story.

I often find myself looking at things I don?t like in the world and saying, ?if I got to write the script, it would certainly be different.? Yet, in my own life, I have had a chance to write a very different script that I actually blew, got wrong, and now I must suffer the consequences.

When attending a yearly physical with my doctor, she noted that my blood sugar was higher than it should be and said that I was prediabetic. I knew my mother had diabetes and that my sister did as well. The doctor gently explained that there were some things that I could do: cut down on the intake of sweets, moderate my intake of carbohydrates, eat more green vegetables, and make sure that I had plenty of protein and fat in my diet. My response to her was, ?I can do that.? Now you don?t have to have a fascination with grammar to realize that the verb in that sentence was wrong. I should have said will rather than can, and acting on can rather than will, I soon found my pharmacy delivering metformin and was angered because I thought they had made a mistake by giving me a drug intended for my wife. Well, there was no mistake at all: I was no longer prediabetic but a full-fledged diabetic.

I go to the drugstore, buy the needles, buy the strips, and order a talking glucometer. I find I hate the finger sticks, especially the ones that don?t give me enough blood or ones that I sold boggle that I do not get enough blood to give a valid test result using the strip. The second poke hurts more than the first because of the frustration that goes along with feeling if I had done it right the first time, I wouldn?t be suffering through another poke and wasting another strip.

Never was I happier than when I learned that there were continuous glucose monitors that would mean one stick every fourteen days. Even that one stick seemed less painful than the finger prick. My first frustration, of course, was to learn that I had to buy a reader that would receive the transmissions from the sensor in my arm. I got it home, paid somebody to help me set it up, and then realized that it was not at all usable without vision. No one had mentioned that at the pharmacy, and the reader was listed as a must-have if I was going to get the sensors.

Luckily I had heard about an iPhone application that could read the sensor. I downloaded it, read all the warnings, checked in number of boxes saying that I would not hold any company liable if the readings were incorrect, and started religiously monitoring my blood sugar levels. The continuous glucose monitor made an honest man out of me. I could no longer lie about the effects of that baked potato, a piece of cake, or a slice of my much-coveted pumpkin pie. But as great as it was to have this technology, every update put me at risk of losing the ability to read the sensor, and once in a while I did have to wait for the company to catch up with changes in the iPhone operating system.

Even though I can read my blood sugar level, I cannot independently look at much information that is available to sighted people. There is no way to interpret the graph that tells me how often I have been within range, when I am most likely to suffer a low, or when my blood sugar will go above where it should be. It is great that I can send this information to my doctor, but part of the value of the monitor is that I want to know what is going on and try to meet the targets that will lead not only to a longer life but to a greater quality of life as long as I have it.

I actively support the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act because diabetes, and most other diseases for that matter, are difficult enough to manage without the artificial barrier posed by electronic equipment that could deliver digital information just as easily through speech as it does on a screen. When I have an issue, I should not have to argue with the provider of my glucose sensor about whether the problem is with that device or that I use it in a nonstandard way. I should not have to decide between keeping up with security updates and monitoring my blood sugar. When it gets right down to it, I should not have to have a smart phone and know the skills necessary to use it in order to get something as simple and yet as necessary as my blood sugar readings. 

I am glad we are doing something about this. I hope that the Congress of the United States and the president of this great country will see that there are some issues that are nonpartisan and some that are as important as life and death. The solutions we need are not found in science fiction; they are in all kinds of devices around us. We should not have to convince the companies that market share should decide whether or not we get access; the quality and length of our lives should be considered so valuable that there should be unanimous agreement about making medical devices accessible. We must come to be seen as patients who are capable of taking care of ourselves rather than people who will necessarily be taken care of by others, and medical equipment used in the home should be adequate not only for us to take care of ourselves but to take care of the ones we love whether they be our seniors, our ailing spouses,  or our children.


Now, take your pick; here is the way ChatGPT rewrote my story. 

 
Title: Accessible Medical Devices: An Urgent Call for Inclusivity and Equal Opportunity in Healthcare
Introduction
In a world that offers countless opportunities to rewrite the script and make better choices, there are times when our past decisions lead us down paths that we cannot simply undo. As someone living with diabetes, I am all too familiar with the consequences of my own actions. However, the challenges I face daily in managing this condition are compounded by the lack of accessibility in the medical devices that are essential to my well-being.
A Journey Into Diabetes Management
When I was first diagnosed as prediabetic, my doctor advised me to make lifestyle changes that could potentially prevent the onset of full-blown diabetes. Unfortunately, I did not fully commit to those changes, and eventually, I became a diabetic. Managing this condition requires frequent blood sugar monitoring, which often involves finger sticks that are both painful and frustrating.
Discovering Continuous Glucose Monitors
The discovery of continuous glucose monitors (CGMs) was a game-changer for me, allowing me to monitor my blood sugar levels with significantly less discomfort. However, the initial excitement was short-lived when I found out that the device's reader was not accessible to those with vision impairments. Thankfully, there was an iPhone app that could read the sensor, but this solution had its own limitations and challenges, such as updates that could affect the app's functionality.
Inaccessible Medical Devices: A Barrier to Independence
Despite being able to monitor my blood sugar levels, I still faced accessibility barriers when it came to understanding the wealth of information available to sighted individuals. This lack of access hinders my ability to fully take control of my health and make informed decisions. It is for this reason that I support the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act.
The Need for Accessible Medical Devices
Diabetes and other diseases are difficult enough to manage without the added challenge of inaccessible electronic equipment. It is essential that medical devices provide digital information in formats that are accessible to all, including speech output. The quality and length of our lives should not be determined by a company's market share or the availability of accessibility features. We deserve equal access to healthcare and the opportunity to take care of ourselves and our loved ones.
A Call for Inclusivity and Equal Opportunity in Healthcare
It is my hope that the government and the medical device industry will recognize the importance of accessibility and inclusivity in healthcare. By making medical devices accessible, we can empower individuals to take control of their health, leading to longer and better-quality lives. In the end, the solutions we need are not far-fetched; they are within reach, and it is time to make them accessible to everyone.


Warmly,

Gary





From debbiewunder at charter.net  Sun Apr  9 13:31:14 2023
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (debbiewunder at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2023 08:31:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] My story
In-Reply-To: <9AB39059-DF25-4685-96EB-C68859FD9B66@comcast.net>
References: <000e01d96a4a$8f3241e0$ad96c5a0$@charter.net>
 <9AB39059-DF25-4685-96EB-C68859FD9B66@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <008f01d96ae7$8eb422e0$ac1c68a0$@charter.net>

Thank you Patricia!

-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net> 
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 2:00 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: debbiewunder at charter.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] My story

That was a fabulous letter, Debi. I also sent one in last week.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I thought perhaps sharing my story might be an example. Thanks for 
> anyone who also write and shares.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> 
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
> 
> How the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act Has Turned Me into 
> an Impassioned Advocate
> 
> By Debbie Wunder
> 
> 
> 
> Talking about laws and the Congress is intimidating, but the Medical 
> Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act forced me to move into the 
> uncomfortable and what (for me) was once the unthinkable area of public policy.
> 
> I am an insulin-dependent diabetic. I know lots of us because I serve 
> as the president of the Diabetes Action Network (DAN). I have been 
> pushed out of my comfort zone in this position, to which I was elected 
> by my peers. Others began trusting me to advocate on their behalf. 
> Drugs with inaccessible labels, medications that are difficult (or 
> impossible) to measure, and blood-sugar-monitoring equipment all 
> conspire to make blind people dependent on others. Some of these 
> things are changing. We can now measure our insulin and other 
> medications, and many of those medications are now labeled accessibly.
> 
> Far too often, getting the technology we need is still difficult and 
> sometimes impossible. Monitoring blood sugar used to take a needle 
> stick, putting blood on a strip, and then inserting that strip into a 
> machine. A blind person would hope all the while that they got enough 
> blood to be measured, because doing so was difficult. If not, they 
> would have to resign themselves to the pain of going back to step one. 
> Now, there are at least two continuous glucose-monitoring devices that 
> require a stick only once every ten or fourteen days. The catch is 
> that the readers sold for these sensors aren't usable without vision. 
> Thankfully, those of us with smartphones can read the sensors to 
> measure our blood sugar and be alerted when our levels are dangerously 
> low or unhealthily high. We determine how much insulin to take (usually through shots) based on these readings.
> 
> The better way to regulate blood sugar is through the use of insulin 
> pumps-devices that quickly give insulin before blood sugar varies 
> enough to require much medication. A person must wait until blood 
> sugar goes above 180 before injecting a shot to drop it to 120 or 
> less. The insulin pump begins the flow of insulin when the sugar 
> starts rising and stops when it starts returning to the desired level. 
> This does a far better job of keeping blood sugar within an acceptable 
> range, resulting in less damage and a longer life.
> 
> This is great technology, but not so much for blind people. No unit on 
> the market talks. Not one reliably beeps to indicate the increment of 
> the level being adjusted. Few are easy to load with insulin or to 
> monitor when additional insulin is required. Of the few blind people I 
> know who use insulin pumps, even fewer can do so independently. For 
> many of us, the challenges and dangers are just too great.
> 
> The problem is more than caring for ourselves. I was my mother's 
> caretaker for a time. She needed me to administer oxygen and many 
> medications. Neither of the machines she used gave a single clue as to 
> the way a blind person should regulate their output. Often she was 
> unable to make these adjustments for herself, so I gambled. Having to 
> guess and to hope that I was right was nerve-wracking. A single wrong guess would have put her in danger.
> 
> The Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act can change all of this. 
> When the law mandates that devices must talk, beep, and have 
> accessible controls, every blind person will have more independence. 
> But this law will change more than just technology. It will help 
> change the perception that blind patients cannot take care of 
> themselves and must consequently be taken care of. It will change the 
> idea that blindness equals dependence, and that dependence means 
> reliance on others for important medical care. The passage of this act 
> will attack both the visible problem of inaccessibility and the 
> attitudinal problem that causes inaccessibility to not only exist, but 
> to persist. We must take charge of our technology, rather than be 
> subjected to continual dependence because of it. We must do it for 
> ourselves and for those we love who need us. Therefore, I will take on 
> the law, participate in its introduction, push for its progression 
> through the Congress, and press as it moves from a statute to an 
> implemented law complete with regulations and adherence. Then I will 
> stop talking about the need. I will start talking about the way we use 
> the law. We will put technology to work for us, rather than making us victims in the beautiful age of digital machines that should bring access to all of us the world over.
> 
> 
> 
> Debbie Wunder
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 10 14:14:10 2023
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (Ed Worrell)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 08:14:10 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] My story
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Hey Guys,

Here is the letter I sent in to help.

The medical device non-visual accessibility act is crucial for blind diabetics, like myself, who rely on insulin pumps to manage our disease. I experienced the consequences of rationing my insulin due to a lack of insurance, resulting in a blood sugar level of over 1280 and nerve damage that required 11 months of physical therapy. Two years later, I lost my eyesight due to diabetic retinopathy. While I have found a partially accessible insulin pump, it remains complicated to use without sight. This act would improve the accessibility of medical devices for blind diabetics, allowing us to independently manage our disease and avoid life-threatening situations.

The act would not only benefit blind diabetics, but also make life-saving technology more accessible to all individuals with disabilities. As someone who has experienced the challenges of navigating the healthcare system with a disability, I understand the importance of equal access to medical devices. The act would promote innovation and progress in the design of medical devices, ensuring that all individuals can use them safely and effectively.

In conclusion, the medical device non-visual accessibility act is a necessary step towards improving the lives of individuals with disabilities, particularly blind diabetics. It would allow us to independently manage our disease and avoid life-threatening situations, while promoting innovation and progress in the design of medical devices.

> On Apr 9, 2023, at 7:31 AM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Patricia!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net> 
> Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 2:00 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: debbiewunder at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] My story
> 
> That was a fabulous letter, Debi. I also sent one in last week.
> Patricia.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 8, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I thought perhaps sharing my story might be an example. Thanks for 
>> anyone who also write and shares.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Debbie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How the Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act Has Turned Me into 
>> an Impassioned Advocate
>> 
>> By Debbie Wunder
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Talking about laws and the Congress is intimidating, but the Medical 
>> Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act forced me to move into the 
>> uncomfortable and what (for me) was once the unthinkable area of public policy.
>> 
>> I am an insulin-dependent diabetic. I know lots of us because I serve 
>> as the president of the Diabetes Action Network (DAN). I have been 
>> pushed out of my comfort zone in this position, to which I was elected 
>> by my peers. Others began trusting me to advocate on their behalf. 
>> Drugs with inaccessible labels, medications that are difficult (or 
>> impossible) to measure, and blood-sugar-monitoring equipment all 
>> conspire to make blind people dependent on others. Some of these 
>> things are changing. We can now measure our insulin and other 
>> medications, and many of those medications are now labeled accessibly.
>> 
>> Far too often, getting the technology we need is still difficult and 
>> sometimes impossible. Monitoring blood sugar used to take a needle 
>> stick, putting blood on a strip, and then inserting that strip into a 
>> machine. A blind person would hope all the while that they got enough 
>> blood to be measured, because doing so was difficult. If not, they 
>> would have to resign themselves to the pain of going back to step one. 
>> Now, there are at least two continuous glucose-monitoring devices that 
>> require a stick only once every ten or fourteen days. The catch is 
>> that the readers sold for these sensors aren't usable without vision. 
>> Thankfully, those of us with smartphones can read the sensors to 
>> measure our blood sugar and be alerted when our levels are dangerously 
>> low or unhealthily high. We determine how much insulin to take (usually through shots) based on these readings.
>> 
>> The better way to regulate blood sugar is through the use of insulin 
>> pumps-devices that quickly give insulin before blood sugar varies 
>> enough to require much medication. A person must wait until blood 
>> sugar goes above 180 before injecting a shot to drop it to 120 or 
>> less. The insulin pump begins the flow of insulin when the sugar 
>> starts rising and stops when it starts returning to the desired level. 
>> This does a far better job of keeping blood sugar within an acceptable 
>> range, resulting in less damage and a longer life.
>> 
>> This is great technology, but not so much for blind people. No unit on 
>> the market talks. Not one reliably beeps to indicate the increment of 
>> the level being adjusted. Few are easy to load with insulin or to 
>> monitor when additional insulin is required. Of the few blind people I 
>> know who use insulin pumps, even fewer can do so independently. For 
>> many of us, the challenges and dangers are just too great.
>> 
>> The problem is more than caring for ourselves. I was my mother's 
>> caretaker for a time. She needed me to administer oxygen and many 
>> medications. Neither of the machines she used gave a single clue as to 
>> the way a blind person should regulate their output. Often she was 
>> unable to make these adjustments for herself, so I gambled. Having to 
>> guess and to hope that I was right was nerve-wracking. A single wrong guess would have put her in danger.
>> 
>> The Medical Device Nonvisual Accessibility Act can change all of this. 
>> When the law mandates that devices must talk, beep, and have 
>> accessible controls, every blind person will have more independence. 
>> But this law will change more than just technology. It will help 
>> change the perception that blind patients cannot take care of 
>> themselves and must consequently be taken care of. It will change the 
>> idea that blindness equals dependence, and that dependence means 
>> reliance on others for important medical care. The passage of this act 
>> will attack both the visible problem of inaccessibility and the 
>> attitudinal problem that causes inaccessibility to not only exist, but 
>> to persist. We must take charge of our technology, rather than be 
>> subjected to continual dependence because of it. We must do it for 
>> ourselves and for those we love who need us. Therefore, I will take on 
>> the law, participate in its introduction, push for its progression 
>> through the Congress, and press as it moves from a statute to an 
>> implemented law complete with regulations and adherence. Then I will 
>> stop talking about the need. I will start talking about the way we use 
>> the law. We will put technology to work for us, rather than making us victims in the beautiful age of digital machines that should bring access to all of us the world over.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Debbie Wunder
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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> 
> 
> 
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 13 14:17:58 2023
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 10:17:58 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: [Ohio-Talk] a request for support by the
 Diabetes Action Network Division
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Greetings NFB Family and Friends,

We request your support as the Ohio Diabetes Action Network continues to
support our community. Please read the previous message.

Thank you,
Walter Mitchell
President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network
(513) 250-2432
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

Purpose:
The Diabetes Action Network Educate, Empower and Inspire blind and visually
impaired people to independently and confidently manage diabetes!



-----Original Message-----
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via Ohio-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 9:40 PM
To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement List' <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: delcenia at prodigy.net
Subject: [Ohio-Talk] a request for support by the Diabetes Action Network
Division

Hello Federation Family! 

 

The NFB of Ohio's Diabetes Action Network Division invite you to support the
division by checking out our new Facebook page at
www.facebook.com/OhioDanDivision/ <http://www.facebook.com/OhioDanDivision/>
.  Take the time to Like and follow us. For those of you that are not on
Facebook, help by spreading the word and share the info with your family and
friends!

 

Thank you in advance for your consideration.

 

Delcenia Brown

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From pmaddix at comcast.net  Sat Apr 15 03:38:45 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:38:45 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
Message-ID: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>

I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is great.
We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone


From pmaddix at comcast.net  Sat Apr 15 03:42:25 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:42:25 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulin pumps, sensors, and x-rays
Message-ID: <2AA2019A-DE16-4C84-A4EE-5A50FEB27C88@comcast.net>

I just wanted to share the good experience I had today when I unexpectedly ended up getting an x-ray. I needed an x-ray of my right shoulder, and my Dexcom sensor was on the back of my arm near the top. As I had just started a new transmitter a week ago, I didn?t want to chance ruining it, and really hated to remove the sensor. I talked with the wonderful staff and they were able to wrap a lead shield around my arm covering the sensor and transmitter and allow me to keep it on. Apparently they have some small devices like these that are used on other people with various issues such as someone?s thyroid needed to be covered during an x-ray. I just took off my tandem insulin pump and had them keep it behind the wall with their monitor, but this type of wrap could no doubt also have been used on an Omni pod pump, which is more of a major thing to remove. A few years ago when I had some epidural injections that were guided by an x-ray machine they actually wrapped both my pump and my transmitter and sensor with the same kinds of protectors so that I could continue to have blood sugar readings during my procedure And allow my husband to monitor them from the waiting room. If you have a pump or CGM, you might want to ask the staff next time you need an x-ray.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone


From taylor9209 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 05:00:32 2023
From: taylor9209 at gmail.com (Taylor Scott)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 00:00:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAE5LqVya+F0Df3Wi8vRU5vYKX8tONVG-Cvq4TV8CmpQrew5rdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I've been using the G7 for about 2 months now.

I like it.

Wish it stuck on a little better than it does, but I guess you can't
have everything. lol


On 4/14/23, Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
> small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
> experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
> seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
> feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
> entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and
> an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
> sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did
> say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
> great.
> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
> Patricia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 05:05:54 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 22:05:54 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00be01d96f57$f541ac20$dfc50460$@gmail.com>

Wow! Patricia I love your memory you said almost word for word our
conversation that's amazing.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia
Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 8:39 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and
an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did
say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
great.
We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 05:07:18 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 22:07:18 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulin pumps, sensors, and x-rays
In-Reply-To: <2AA2019A-DE16-4C84-A4EE-5A50FEB27C88@comcast.net>
References: <2AA2019A-DE16-4C84-A4EE-5A50FEB27C88@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00bf01d96f58$2762eca0$7628c5e0$@gmail.com>

That's awesome to know.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 8:42 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulin pumps, sensors, and x-rays

I just wanted to share the good experience I had today when I unexpectedly ended up getting an x-ray. I needed an x-ray of my right shoulder, and my Dexcom sensor was on the back of my arm near the top. As I had just started a new transmitter a week ago, I didn?t want to chance ruining it, and really hated to remove the sensor. I talked with the wonderful staff and they were able to wrap a lead shield around my arm covering the sensor and transmitter and allow me to keep it on. Apparently they have some small devices like these that are used on other people with various issues such as someone?s thyroid needed to be covered during an x-ray. I just took off my tandem insulin pump and had them keep it behind the wall with their monitor, but this type of wrap could no doubt also have been used on an Omni pod pump, which is more of a major thing to remove. A few years ago when I had some epidural injections that were guided by an x-ray machine they actually wrapped both my pump and my transmitter and sensor with the same kinds of protectors so that I could continue to have blood sugar readings during my procedure And allow my husband to monitor them from the waiting room. If you have a pump or CGM, you might want to ask the staff next time you need an x-ray.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 05:11:18 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 22:11:18 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <CAE5LqVya+F0Df3Wi8vRU5vYKX8tONVG-Cvq4TV8CmpQrew5rdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <CAE5LqVya+F0Df3Wi8vRU5vYKX8tONVG-Cvq4TV8CmpQrew5rdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c001d96f58$b6b10540$24130fc0$@gmail.com>

That's why they say to use the over patch that come with the unit. I have
had a really hard time putting those over patches on I have tried putting on
three of them so far with only one success.  The first one went on just fine
but after that I end up destroying the over patch and I called Dexcom about
this problem and they said it is fine to use medical tape on and over it.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Taylor
Scott via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

Hi, I've been using the G7 for about 2 months now.

I like it.

Wish it stuck on a little better than it does, but I guess you can't have
everything. lol


On 4/14/23, Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love 
> how small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are 
> your experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor 
> code as the seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover 
> did not give feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on 
> the numbers as you entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read 
> the sensor code to him and an external keyboard to enter the sensor 
> code into the app. This does not sound terribly convenient. Is anyone 
> else having better luck with it? He did say that the 30 minute warm-up 
> is often much shorter than that which is great.
> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
> Patricia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> _______________________________________________
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 05:44:39 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 22:44:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulin pumps, sensors, and x-rays
In-Reply-To: <2AA2019A-DE16-4C84-A4EE-5A50FEB27C88@comcast.net>
References: <2AA2019A-DE16-4C84-A4EE-5A50FEB27C88@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <011501d96f5d$5f09cde0$1d1d69a0$@gmail.com>

Good  to know about this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 8:42 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulin pumps, sensors, and x-rays

I just wanted to share the good experience I had today when I unexpectedly ended up getting an x-ray. I needed an x-ray of my right shoulder, and my Dexcom sensor was on the back of my arm near the top. As I had just started a new transmitter a week ago, I didn?t want to chance ruining it, and really hated to remove the sensor. I talked with the wonderful staff and they were able to wrap a lead shield around my arm covering the sensor and transmitter and allow me to keep it on. Apparently they have some small devices like these that are used on other people with various issues such as someone?s thyroid needed to be covered during an x-ray. I just took off my tandem insulin pump and had them keep it behind the wall with their monitor, but this type of wrap could no doubt also have been used on an Omni pod pump, which is more of a major thing to remove. A few years ago when I had some epidural injections that were guided by an x-ray machine they actually wrapped both my pump and my transmitter and sensor with the same kinds of protectors so that I could continue to have blood sugar readings during my procedure And allow my husband to monitor them from the waiting room. If you have a pump or CGM, you might want to ask the staff next time you need an x-ray.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From mota1252 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 12:23:54 2023
From: mota1252 at gmail.com (Milton)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 07:23:54 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>

Hello all,

I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the warmup
time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.

I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the
transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for the
transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  on an
iPhone 14 Pro.

As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was not
able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the code back
to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set to characters I
don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a click sound
indicating that a character has been entered. The Done button is in a place
where you would not necessarily find it, but after running my finger around
I found it.

Love to hear what are others are experiencing.

I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite
inaccurate.

The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.

I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like I had
to do with the Dexcom G6.

Milton Ota
Email: mota1252 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia
Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and
an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did
say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
great.
We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From mota1252 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 12:29:11 2023
From: mota1252 at gmail.com (Milton)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 07:29:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <CAE5LqVya+F0Df3Wi8vRU5vYKX8tONVG-Cvq4TV8CmpQrew5rdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <CAE5LqVya+F0Df3Wi8vRU5vYKX8tONVG-Cvq4TV8CmpQrew5rdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004d01d96f95$e21c8370$a6558a50$@gmail.com>

Hello again,

I should also mention that sensor overlays come now as a single overlay
patch with each new sensor.

I found it quite difficult to put the overlay patch on and found that my
sensor stays secure for the duration of its time. I'm getting a 10 day span
before having to change the sensor and upon the notification that the sensor
has expired you have 12 hours to change the sensor and it still keeps
monitoring your glucose levels.

Again, would love to hear others experiences.

Milton Ota
E: mota1252 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Taylor
Scott via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:01 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

Hi, I've been using the G7 for about 2 months now.

I like it.

Wish it stuck on a little better than it does, but I guess you can't have
everything. lol


On 4/14/23, Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love 
> how small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are 
> your experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor 
> code as the seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover 
> did not give feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on 
> the numbers as you entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read 
> the sensor code to him and an external keyboard to enter the sensor 
> code into the app. This does not sound terribly convenient. Is anyone 
> else having better luck with it? He did say that the 30 minute warm-up 
> is often much shorter than that which is great.
> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
> Patricia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> _______________________________________________
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 17:29:12 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:29:12 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002801d96fbf$cbfccf80$63f66e80$@gmail.com>

I haven't found any where to calibrate it either that is great.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

Hello all,

I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the warmup
time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.

I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the
transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for the
transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  on an
iPhone 14 Pro.

As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was not
able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the code back
to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set to characters I
don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a click sound
indicating that a character has been entered. The Done button is in a place
where you would not necessarily find it, but after running my finger around
I found it.

Love to hear what are others are experiencing.

I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite
inaccurate.

The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.

I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like I had
to do with the Dexcom G6.

Milton Ota
Email: mota1252 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia
Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and
an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did
say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
great.
We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 18:47:09 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:47:09 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <002801d96fbf$cbfccf80$63f66e80$@gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
 <002801d96fbf$cbfccf80$63f66e80$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006901d96fca$afd5c680$0f815380$@gmail.com>

Its there  iin the dexcom app asi wat chinga youtube clip a few weeks ago.
Let me see if I can find it and  post it to  you.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Les
Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 10:29 AM
To: mota1252 at gmail.com; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I haven't found any where to calibrate it either that is great.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

Hello all,

I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the warmup
time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.

I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the
transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for the
transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  on an
iPhone 14 Pro.

As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was not
able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the code back
to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set to characters I
don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a click sound
indicating that a character has been entered. The Done button is in a place
where you would not necessarily find it, but after running my finger around
I found it.

Love to hear what are others are experiencing.

I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite
inaccurate.

The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.

I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like I had
to do with the Dexcom G6.

Milton Ota
Email: mota1252 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia
Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and
an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did
say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
great.
We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 18:53:27 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:53:27 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006a01d96fcb$911866c0$b3493440$@gmail.com>

That is good for what  it  can do.my libre 2 takes  1 hour for warm up.i
know that the libre 3 will be about the  same warm up time frame.  I
honestly will be doing a bit  more research before I upgrade to the next gen
cgm systems.  . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

Hello all,

I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the warmup
time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.

I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the
transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for the
transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  on an
iPhone 14 Pro.

As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was not
able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the code back
to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set to characters I
don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a click sound
indicating that a character has been entered. The Done button is in a place
where you would not necessarily find it, but after running my finger around
I found it.

Love to hear what are others are experiencing.

I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite
inaccurate.

The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.

I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like I had
to do with the Dexcom G6.

Milton Ota
Email: mota1252 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia
Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him and
an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He did
say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
great.
We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

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From taylor9209 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 19:05:08 2023
From: taylor9209 at gmail.com (Taylor Scott)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <006a01d96fcb$911866c0$b3493440$@gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
 <006a01d96fcb$911866c0$b3493440$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE5LqVyB8eWGC5Tmyr9avADrd1aDoFueaXP-cFBbxoyqhEXWgA@mail.gmail.com>

I too have trouble with the over patch things. Most of the time they
stick to themselves or I don't line it up correctly.

I'm going to try using these skin tac wipe things to see if they help.

As for getting the code, maybe I'm just lucky.

The code is on the opisit side of the button on the applicator.

I usually sit it on the edge of a table, so I can bring the phone down
low about half way up the applicator.
I also make sure a light is on, then when I have it ready, I click the
button in the G7 app to use the scanner.

The one thing I'm having trouble with is the profiles for alerts.
I've created a bedtime profile, but it hardly ever seems to work.
I made it so my low alert is a little lower at night, as well as my high.
Most of the time though, it's still using the main alerts.

Not sure if it is a bug in the app, or if it is causing problems
because it starts at the end of one day, but switches in the morning
of another...


On 4/15/23, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> That is good for what  it  can do.my libre 2 takes  1 hour for warm up.i
> know that the libre 3 will be about the  same warm up time frame.  I
> honestly will be doing a bit  more research before I upgrade to the next
> gen
> cgm systems.  .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the warmup
> time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.
>
> I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the
> transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for the
> transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  on an
> iPhone 14 Pro.
>
> As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was not
> able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the code
> back
> to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set to characters I
> don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a click sound
> indicating that a character has been entered. The Done button is in a place
> where you would not necessarily find it, but after running my finger around
> I found it.
>
> Love to hear what are others are experiencing.
>
> I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite
> inaccurate.
>
> The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.
>
> I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like I had
> to do with the Dexcom G6.
>
> Milton Ota
> Email: mota1252 at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Patricia
> Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
> To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>
> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
> small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
> experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as the
> seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
> feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
> entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him
> and
> an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
> sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He
> did
> say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
> great.
> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
> Patricia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> _______________________________________________
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From taylor9209 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 19:06:27 2023
From: taylor9209 at gmail.com (Taylor Scott)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 14:06:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <CAE5LqVyB8eWGC5Tmyr9avADrd1aDoFueaXP-cFBbxoyqhEXWgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
 <006a01d96fcb$911866c0$b3493440$@gmail.com>
 <CAE5LqVyB8eWGC5Tmyr9avADrd1aDoFueaXP-cFBbxoyqhEXWgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE5LqVyqNMJ-R-k5J+k_fF--iN0zs=9on+MQ3CsDn-5zWGgTMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I think I seen a mention of calibrating in the history tab at the bottom...
I don't really look at the other tabs though.

On 4/15/23, Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I too have trouble with the over patch things. Most of the time they
> stick to themselves or I don't line it up correctly.
>
> I'm going to try using these skin tac wipe things to see if they help.
>
> As for getting the code, maybe I'm just lucky.
>
> The code is on the opisit side of the button on the applicator.
>
> I usually sit it on the edge of a table, so I can bring the phone down
> low about half way up the applicator.
> I also make sure a light is on, then when I have it ready, I click the
> button in the G7 app to use the scanner.
>
> The one thing I'm having trouble with is the profiles for alerts.
> I've created a bedtime profile, but it hardly ever seems to work.
> I made it so my low alert is a little lower at night, as well as my high.
> Most of the time though, it's still using the main alerts.
>
> Not sure if it is a bug in the app, or if it is causing problems
> because it starts at the end of one day, but switches in the morning
> of another...
>
>
> On 4/15/23, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> That is good for what  it  can do.my libre 2 takes  1 hour for warm up.i
>> know that the libre 3 will be about the  same warm up time frame.  I
>> honestly will be doing a bit  more research before I upgrade to the next
>> gen
>> cgm systems.  .
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Milton
>> via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the warmup
>> time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.
>>
>> I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the
>> transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for the
>> transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  on an
>> iPhone 14 Pro.
>>
>> As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was not
>> able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the code
>> back
>> to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set to characters
>> I
>> don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a click sound
>> indicating that a character has been entered. The Done button is in a
>> place
>> where you would not necessarily find it, but after running my finger
>> around
>> I found it.
>>
>> Love to hear what are others are experiencing.
>>
>> I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite
>> inaccurate.
>>
>> The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.
>>
>> I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like I
>> had
>> to do with the Dexcom G6.
>>
>> Milton Ota
>> Email: mota1252 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Patricia
>> Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
>> To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>>
>> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love how
>> small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are your
>> experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor code as
>> the
>> seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover did not give
>> feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on the numbers as you
>> entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read the sensor code to him
>> and
>> an external keyboard to enter the sensor code into the app. This does not
>> sound terribly convenient. Is anyone else having better luck with it? He
>> did
>> say that the 30 minute warm-up is often much shorter than that which is
>> great.
>> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
>> Patricia.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> com
>>
>>
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 21:31:48 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 14:31:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <CAE5LqVyB8eWGC5Tmyr9avADrd1aDoFueaXP-cFBbxoyqhEXWgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
 <006a01d96fcb$911866c0$b3493440$@gmail.com>
 <CAE5LqVyB8eWGC5Tmyr9avADrd1aDoFueaXP-cFBbxoyqhEXWgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01d96fe1$b04b9b50$10e2d1f0$@gmail.com>

I turned my alerts on vibrate and now I can't get them to   be on  audio at
all even though I took it off of vibration only.  Where is the button for
the scanner in the G7 app, I've never seen that.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Taylor
Scott via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:05 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I too have trouble with the over patch things. Most of the time they stick
to themselves or I don't line it up correctly.

I'm going to try using these skin tac wipe things to see if they help.

As for getting the code, maybe I'm just lucky.

The code is on the opisit side of the button on the applicator.

I usually sit it on the edge of a table, so I can bring the phone down low
about half way up the applicator.
I also make sure a light is on, then when I have it ready, I click the
button in the G7 app to use the scanner.

The one thing I'm having trouble with is the profiles for alerts.
I've created a bedtime profile, but it hardly ever seems to work.
I made it so my low alert is a little lower at night, as well as my high.
Most of the time though, it's still using the main alerts.

Not sure if it is a bug in the app, or if it is causing problems because it
starts at the end of one day, but switches in the morning of another...


On 4/15/23, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> That is good for what  it  can do.my libre 2 takes  1 hour for warm 
> up.i know that the libre 3 will be about the  same warm up time frame.  
> I honestly will be doing a bit  more research before I upgrade to the 
> next gen cgm systems.  .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the 
> warmup time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the warmup.
>
> I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the 
> transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for 
> the transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  
> on an iPhone 14 Pro.
>
> As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was 
> not able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read the 
> code back to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover set 
> to characters I don't hear the characters being spoken but I do hear a 
> click sound indicating that a character has been entered. The Done 
> button is in a place where you would not necessarily find it, but 
> after running my finger around I found it.
>
> Love to hear what are others are experiencing.
>
> I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite 
> inaccurate.
>
> The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.
>
> I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like 
> I had to do with the Dexcom G6.
>
> Milton Ota
> Email: mota1252 at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
> To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>
> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love 
> how small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are 
> your experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor 
> code as the seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover 
> did not give feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on 
> the numbers as you entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read 
> the sensor code to him and an external keyboard to enter the sensor 
> code into the app. This does not sound terribly convenient. Is anyone 
> else having better luck with it? He did say that the 30 minute warm-up 
> is often much shorter than that which is great.
> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
> Patricia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 15 21:34:33 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 14:34:33 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <CAE5LqVyqNMJ-R-k5J+k_fF--iN0zs=9on+MQ3CsDn-5zWGgTMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <929B70C6-561F-4DD7-9C36-D6E9D191F1A2@comcast.net>
 <004b01d96f95$252210a0$6f6631e0$@gmail.com>
 <006a01d96fcb$911866c0$b3493440$@gmail.com>
 <CAE5LqVyB8eWGC5Tmyr9avADrd1aDoFueaXP-cFBbxoyqhEXWgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAE5LqVyqNMJ-R-k5J+k_fF--iN0zs=9on+MQ3CsDn-5zWGgTMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d96fe2$12612a30$37237e90$@gmail.com>

I just went through the whole app and didn't find anything about
calibration.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Taylor
Scott via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:06 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7

I think I seen a mention of calibrating in the history tab at the bottom...
I don't really look at the other tabs though.

On 4/15/23, Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I too have trouble with the over patch things. Most of the time they 
> stick to themselves or I don't line it up correctly.
>
> I'm going to try using these skin tac wipe things to see if they help.
>
> As for getting the code, maybe I'm just lucky.
>
> The code is on the opisit side of the button on the applicator.
>
> I usually sit it on the edge of a table, so I can bring the phone down 
> low about half way up the applicator.
> I also make sure a light is on, then when I have it ready, I click the 
> button in the G7 app to use the scanner.
>
> The one thing I'm having trouble with is the profiles for alerts.
> I've created a bedtime profile, but it hardly ever seems to work.
> I made it so my low alert is a little lower at night, as well as my high.
> Most of the time though, it's still using the main alerts.
>
> Not sure if it is a bug in the app, or if it is causing problems 
> because it starts at the end of one day, but switches in the morning 
> of another...
>
>
> On 4/15/23, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> That is good for what  it  can do.my libre 2 takes  1 hour for warm 
>> up.i know that the libre 3 will be about the  same warm up time 
>> frame.  I honestly will be doing a bit  more research before I 
>> upgrade to the next gen cgm systems.  .
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Milton via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the 
>> warmup time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the
warmup.
>>
>> I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the 
>> transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for 
>> the transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  
>> on an iPhone 14 Pro.
>>
>> As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was 
>> not able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read 
>> the code back to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover 
>> set to characters I don't hear the characters being spoken but I do 
>> hear a click sound indicating that a character has been entered. The 
>> Done button is in a place where you would not necessarily find it, 
>> but after running my finger around I found it.
>>
>> Love to hear what are others are experiencing.
>>
>> I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite 
>> inaccurate.
>>
>> The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.
>>
>> I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like 
>> I had to do with the Dexcom G6.
>>
>> Milton Ota
>> Email: mota1252 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
>> To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>>
>> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love 
>> how small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are 
>> your experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor 
>> code as the seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover 
>> did not give feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on 
>> the numbers as you entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read 
>> the sensor code to him and an external keyboard to enter the sensor 
>> code into the app. This does not sound terribly convenient. Is anyone 
>> else having better luck with it? He did say that the 30 minute 
>> warm-up is often much shorter than that which is great.
>> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
>> Patricia.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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From pmaddix at comcast.net  Sat Apr 15 23:59:13 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:59:13 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
In-Reply-To: <000f01d96fe2$12612a30$37237e90$@gmail.com>
References: <000f01d96fe2$12612a30$37237e90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5052253F-96FB-4919-9DA0-754F01B0D1B6@comcast.net>

I glanced briefly at the online owners manual for the G7, and it indicated that the calibration feature is in the history tab somewhere.
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I just went through the whole app and didn't find anything about
> calibration.
> 
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Taylor
> Scott via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:06 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
> 
> I think I seen a mention of calibrating in the history tab at the bottom...
> I don't really look at the other tabs though.
> 
>> On 4/15/23, Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I too have trouble with the over patch things. Most of the time they 
>> stick to themselves or I don't line it up correctly.
>> 
>> I'm going to try using these skin tac wipe things to see if they help.
>> 
>> As for getting the code, maybe I'm just lucky.
>> 
>> The code is on the opisit side of the button on the applicator.
>> 
>> I usually sit it on the edge of a table, so I can bring the phone down 
>> low about half way up the applicator.
>> I also make sure a light is on, then when I have it ready, I click the 
>> button in the G7 app to use the scanner.
>> 
>> The one thing I'm having trouble with is the profiles for alerts.
>> I've created a bedtime profile, but it hardly ever seems to work.
>> I made it so my low alert is a little lower at night, as well as my high.
>> Most of the time though, it's still using the main alerts.
>> 
>> Not sure if it is a bug in the app, or if it is causing problems 
>> because it starts at the end of one day, but switches in the morning 
>> of another...
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/15/23, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> That is good for what  it  can do.my libre 2 takes  1 hour for warm 
>>> up.i know that the libre 3 will be about the  same warm up time 
>>> frame.  I honestly will be doing a bit  more research before I 
>>> upgrade to the next gen cgm systems.  .
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Milton via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:24 AM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I'm a Dexcom G7 user and I like the fact that it is small and the 
>>> warmup time is much shorter, I'm getting around 20 minutes for the
> warmup.
>>> 
>>> I have been experiencing at different times during the day when the 
>>> transmitter looses connection and have to wait up to 30 minutes for 
>>> the transmitter to re-establish a connection. I'm running iOS 16.4.1  
>>> on an iPhone 14 Pro.
>>> 
>>> As for getting the QR Code I have tried using the camera once and was 
>>> not able to capture a picture and turned to get Aira agent to read 
>>> the code back to me. When entering the Code even if I have Voiceover 
>>> set to characters I don't hear the characters being spoken but I do 
>>> hear a click sound indicating that a character has been entered. The 
>>> Done button is in a place where you would not necessarily find it, 
>>> but after running my finger around I found it.
>>> 
>>> Love to hear what are others are experiencing.
>>> 
>>> I also should mention that I tried the Libra and found it to be quite 
>>> inaccurate.
>>> 
>>> The Dexcom seems to be much more accurate.
>>> 
>>> I have not found anywhere where you need to calibrate the sensor like 
>>> I had to do with the Dexcom G6.
>>> 
>>> Milton Ota
>>> Email: mota1252 at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 PM
>>> To: NFB Diabetes Division <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G7
>>> 
>>> I just visited a friend who is now using the Dexcom G7. I really love 
>>> how small and thin it is. Is anyone else using it yet? And what are 
>>> your experiences? He said that he was having trouble with the sensor 
>>> code as the seeing AI app would not read it and also that voiceover 
>>> did not give feedback on where a text field is nor  Nor feedback on 
>>> the numbers as you entered them. He actually used Be My Eyes to read 
>>> the sensor code to him and an external keyboard to enter the sensor 
>>> code into the app. This does not sound terribly convenient. Is anyone 
>>> else having better luck with it? He did say that the 30 minute 
>>> warm-up is often much shorter than that which is great.
>>> We need to notify Dexcom if there are any new added accessibility issues.
>>> Patricia.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> 
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>>> com
>>> 
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>>> 619%40g
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
> 
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From mota1252 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 02:28:06 2023
From: mota1252 at gmail.com (Milton)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Calibrating Dexcom G7
Message-ID: <000801d9700b$142e2560$3c8a7020$@gmail.com>

Hello all,

 

In the Dexcom G7 app for the iPhone it is found under the History tab and to
get that calibration you have to enter information to the event. 

 

I tried it but will have to do another event in the morning and enter
information after I test with a meter.

 

Milton Ota

E: mota1252 at gmail.com <mailto:mota1252 at gmail.com> 

 

 

 

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From gtwocher at gmail.com  Wed Apr 19 19:11:53 2023
From: gtwocher at gmail.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:11:53 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A new app for seeing trends in your sugars
Message-ID: <365BC334-7D28-43AA-A86F-C63FE294075A@gmail.com>

Hello all,
There was a new app that came out today on iOS called Glucomate. This app works with apples health kit to show trends in your sugars. If the app you use to keep track of your sugars works with health kit, this app will work. It does have a free demo mode which limits its functionality. To unlock all its features it is either $1.99 per month or $14.99 yearly. You can also do a lifetime subscritption for $59.99. So far the app is accessible. It even uses the audio graph functions of voiceover. When you first launch the app it does ask if you use a CGM. This is the app I have been looking for to help me understand the trends in my sugars. It even tells you what your average sugars are when you sleep or when you exercise. For example it told me during my sleep last night my average sugar was 131. I would encourage everyone who can to take a look at this new app. Here is a link to the article on 9to5 Mac about the app.
https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/19/glucomate-glucose-trends/


Greg Wocher


From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Apr 19 19:15:31 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:15:31 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A new app for seeing trends in your sugars
In-Reply-To: <365BC334-7D28-43AA-A86F-C63FE294075A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7e2b5498.0501.4514.81e4.4e2198593b58@samobile.net>

Glad you are enjoying the app.
I wouldn't want to pay for anything.
Dar
Original message:
> Hello all,
> There was a new app that came out today on iOS called Glucomate. This 
> app works with apples health kit to show trends in your sugars. If the 
> app you use to keep track of your sugars works with health kit, this 
> app will work. It does have a free demo mode which limits its 
> functionality. To unlock all its features it is either $1.99 per month 
> or $14.99 yearly. You can also do a lifetime subscritption for $59.99. 
> So far the app is accessible. It even uses the audio graph functions of 
> voiceover. When you first launch the app it does ask if you use a CGM. 
> This is the app I have been looking for to help me understand the 
> trends in my sugars. It even tells you what your average sugars are 
> when you sleep or when you exercise. For example it told me during my 
> sleep last night my average sugar was 131. I would encourage everyone 
> who can to take a look at this new app. Here is a link to the article 
> on 9to5 Mac about the app.
> https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/19/glucomate-glucose-trends/


> Greg Wocher

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From pmdonahue2 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 19 20:03:22 2023
From: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com (pmdonahue2 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:03:22 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A new app for seeing trends in your sugars
In-Reply-To: <7e2b5498.0501.4514.81e4.4e2198593b58@samobile.net>
References: <365BC334-7D28-43AA-A86F-C63FE294075A@gmail.com>
 <7e2b5498.0501.4514.81e4.4e2198593b58@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <009001d972f9$febde020$fc39a060$@gmail.com>

Good afternoon everyone,

A $60 life time subscription is nothing to sneeze at. That's a great price.
How cheap can some people get?

Peter Donahue

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 2:16 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A new app for seeing trends in your sugars

Glad you are enjoying the app.
I wouldn't want to pay for anything.
Dar
Original message:
> Hello all,
> There was a new app that came out today on iOS called Glucomate. This 
> app works with apples health kit to show trends in your sugars. If the 
> app you use to keep track of your sugars works with health kit, this 
> app will work. It does have a free demo mode which limits its 
> functionality. To unlock all its features it is either $1.99 per month 
> or $14.99 yearly. You can also do a lifetime subscritption for $59.99.
> So far the app is accessible. It even uses the audio graph functions 
> of voiceover. When you first launch the app it does ask if you use a CGM.
> This is the app I have been looking for to help me understand the 
> trends in my sugars. It even tells you what your average sugars are 
> when you sleep or when you exercise. For example it told me during my 
> sleep last night my average sugar was 131. I would encourage everyone 
> who can to take a look at this new app. Here is a link to the article 
> on 9to5 Mac about the app.
> https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/19/glucomate-glucose-trends/


> Greg Wocher

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From gwunder at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 20 00:47:34 2023
From: gwunder at earthlink.net (Gary Wunder)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:47:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A back to basics seminar on the third Wednesday in
 May
In-Reply-To: <009001d972f9$febde020$fc39a060$@gmail.com>
References: <365BC334-7D28-43AA-A86F-C63FE294075A@gmail.com>
 <7e2b5498.0501.4514.81e4.4e2198593b58@samobile.net>
 <009001d972f9$febde020$fc39a060$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601d97321$b27f1c10$177d5430$@earthlink.net>

Your Diabetes Action Network board will hold a back to basics seminar on
Wednesday, May 17, 2023, and we would like your involvement both as
participants and planners. This seminar will be virtual and will use the
Zoom platform. What we need from you right now are items you would like to
see on a back to basics agenda. Not only would we like your topics, but we
would welcome ideas about presenters you think would be particularly good. 

Our plan will be to hold the seminar from 7:30 PM to 8:30 PM Eastern time.
Although we hope for a good turnout with time for questions and answers, we
will make a recording of the back to basics meeting available.
Please send your agenda suggestions and possible presenters to
gwunder at earthlink.net
and each of you who responds will get a confirmation message from me. If you
don't get one in a reasonable period of time, please write again.

Thank you so much for helping us plan and execute a wonderful seminar in
May.



From mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com  Sat Apr 22 14:08:29 2023
From: mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com (mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 09:08:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A back to basics seminar on the third Wednesday
 in May
In-Reply-To: <004601d97321$b27f1c10$177d5430$@earthlink.net>
References: <365BC334-7D28-43AA-A86F-C63FE294075A@gmail.com>
 <7e2b5498.0501.4514.81e4.4e2198593b58@samobile.net>
 <009001d972f9$febde020$fc39a060$@gmail.com>
 <004601d97321$b27f1c10$177d5430$@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000b01d97523$ea137870$be3a6950$@gmail.com>

Hey Gary, This sounds good. 

As far as some of the beginning back to basics, would you happen to mean,
topics like:

* making sure Back up devices are ready to go. These are always  a must. ,
since technology can always break down when one least expects it. 
Many people where CGM's, or use pumps, etc. so maybe cover some time how
having working blood glucose monitors (like the Prodigy) ready to go,  along
with fresh batteries for the meter, strips are not outdated, 

* In case pens or pumps break down;
Plastic or wooden syringe gauges for measuring insulin accurately which
would have to be designed with a reader at first, 
or making sure the count-a-dose is in one piece, laugh laugh 
making sure one knows the amount of insulin left in the bottle (all
different ways to keep this marked),, 
But, is this kind of what you are looking for? 

Thanks for getting this together,
Mary  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gary
Wunder via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 7:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Gary Wunder <gwunder at earthlink.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A back to basics seminar on the third Wednesday in
May

Your Diabetes Action Network board will hold a back to basics seminar on
Wednesday, May 17, 2023, and we would like your involvement both as
participants and planners. This seminar will be virtual and will use the
Zoom platform. What we need from you right now are items you would like to
see on a back to basics agenda. Not only would we like your topics, but we
would welcome ideas about presenters you think would be particularly good. 

Our plan will be to hold the seminar from 7:30 PM to 8:30 PM Eastern time.
Although we hope for a good turnout with time for questions and answers, we
will make a recording of the back to basics meeting available.
Please send your agenda suggestions and possible presenters to
gwunder at earthlink.net and each of you who responds will get a confirmation
message from me. If you don't get one in a reasonable period of time, please
write again.

Thank you so much for helping us plan and execute a wonderful seminar in
May.


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From pmaddix at comcast.net  Sun Apr 23 00:45:21 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] =?utf-8?q?FDA_Approves_Medtronic_MiniMed?=
 =?utf-8?q?=E2=84=A2_780G_System_-_World=27s_First_Insulin_Pump_with_Meal_?=
 =?utf-8?q?Detection_Technology*_Featuring_5-Minute_Auto_Corrections?=
 =?utf-8?b?4oCgwqc=?=
Message-ID: <B0B2F005-F102-4E98-834E-0308BAA5E85B@comcast.net>

FYI,
Patricia.


https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fda-approves-medtronic-minimed-780g-system---worlds-first-insulin-pump-with-meal-detection-technology-featuring-5-minute-auto-corrections-301804565.html


Sent from my iPhone


From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 26 16:26:50 2023
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (Ed Worrell)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:26:50 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
Message-ID: <SJ0P220MB04480700A6E67D4ED6D9EE52A0659@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hello Listers,

I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the OmniPod 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor. Every. Single. Setting!
2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to avoid night time lows. 

There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab for accessibility reasons.
2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag. 
I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.


Thanks,

Ed Worrell



From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 19:39:56 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:39:56 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <SJ0P220MB04480700A6E67D4ED6D9EE52A0659@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <SJ0P220MB04480700A6E67D4ED6D9EE52A0659@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>

Thanks very much.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed
Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Hello Listers,

I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the OmniPod
5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a few
people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve
accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I have
no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I have been
told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the OmniPod!!! This
means that we can now independently adjust, carb correction factors, insulin
correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
Every. Single. Setting!
2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise without
the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a workout time
for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to avoid night time
lows. 

There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been told this
is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab for
accessibility reasons.
2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not the
trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at the
top of the screen, instead of an alt tag. 
I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.


Thanks,

Ed Worrell


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From debbiewunder at charter.net  Wed Apr 26 20:21:27 2023
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (debbiewunder at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:21:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <SJ0P220MB04480700A6E67D4ED6D9EE52A0659@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <SJ0P220MB04480700A6E67D4ED6D9EE52A0659@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <01bf01d9787c$ae2c0aa0$0a841fe0$@charter.net>

Thanks Ed, this is wonderful news!

We appreciate you  sharing this with us!

Debbie
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed
Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 11:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Hello Listers,

I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the OmniPod
5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a few
people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve
accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I have
no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I have been
told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the OmniPod!!! This
means that we can now independently adjust, carb correction factors, insulin
correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
Every. Single. Setting!
2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise without
the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a workout time
for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to avoid night time
lows. 

There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been told this
is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab for
accessibility reasons.
2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not the
trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at the
top of the screen, instead of an alt tag. 
I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.


Thanks,

Ed Worrell


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From mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 20:24:40 2023
From: mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com (Mary Davis)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:24:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a few
> people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I have
> no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I have been
> told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the OmniPod!!! This
> means that we can now independently adjust, carb correction factors, insulin
> correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise without
> the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a workout time
> for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to avoid night time
> lows. 
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been told this
> is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab for
> accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not the
> trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at the
> top of the screen, instead of an alt tag. 
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
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> mail.com
> 
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 20:27:15 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconian6
> 19%40g
> mail.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisforal
> ternatives%40gmail.com



From debbiewunder at charter.net  Wed Apr 26 21:37:48 2023
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (debbiewunder at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:37:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] DAN fundraiser
Message-ID: <033901d97887$58d25e00$0a771a00$@charter.net>

Hello friends, below is a live link to  Dot Shop. The items listed are
appropriate for all diabetics, family members and friends.  Please share
with everyone that you know as well as treat yourselves.

 

Money raised will be used for our upcoming seminar.

 

The DAN board thanks all of you in advance.

 

Warmly,

Debbie



http://www.dotshopusa.com/diabetes-fundraiser?fbclid=IwAR3bhtGi3cipib4MhE4Yg
P5JmuojplpXL4cqK0ycwAIgEhkK5KakGzHBGjQ


From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Apr 26 23:35:07 2023
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:35:07 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
 <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin>
Thanks for the update, Ed.
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconian6
> 19%40g
> mail.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisforal
> ternatives%40gmail.com


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 23:48:33 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:48:33 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
 <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
 <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000b01d97899$9cd6ea00$d684be00$@gmail.com>

Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconian6
> 19%40g
> mail.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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> ternatives%40gmail.com


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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 00:21:29 2023
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 19:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <000b01d97899$9cd6ea00$d684be00$@gmail.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
 <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
 <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
 <000b01d97899$9cd6ea00$d684be00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0e3001d9789e$364be650$a2e3b2f0$@gmail.com>

Veronica,

I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  

If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!

			Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 00:27:28 2023
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 19:27:28 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
 <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
 <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <0e3501d9789f$0c3cbaa0$24b62fe0$@gmail.com>

Oops!  I responded to Gary and not your message.  I think you will still get it!  

It's so worth getting a used Android phone for all of the accessibility you will get.  We might be waiting for a while for the iPhone app.  And, if they don't figure out how make the pod info tab more accessible, then I don't know how we will be able to access that important information.  I use Seeing AI on my iPhone to read the pod info that tells you how much insulin is left in the pod and when it actually will expire.
  

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 00:58:25 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:58:25 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <0e3001d9789e$364be650$a2e3b2f0$@gmail.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
 <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
 <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
 <000b01d97899$9cd6ea00$d684be00$@gmail.com>
 <0e3001d9789e$364be650$a2e3b2f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001201d978a3$60128890$203799b0$@gmail.com>

Jamie, I wonder where  your  issues are at.i have used both platforms. what are your  issues and how  can I help you out with your  Samsung s10 device.   I have a samsung galaxy s21 device and have used both dexcom and abbot libre on Android with Samsugn devices .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 5:21 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Veronica,

I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  

If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!

			Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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> 19%40g
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> 
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 01:03:21 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 18:03:21 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <0e3501d9789f$0c3cbaa0$24b62fe0$@gmail.com>
References: <00cc01d97876$e1f73950$a5e5abf0$@gmail.com>
 <0E561FD4-BE5D-47DD-A2C9-5A9B77C90D56@gmail.com>
 <000601d9787d$7dccd000$79667000$@gmail.com>
 <000901d97897$bc74b420$355e1c60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
 <0e3501d9789f$0c3cbaa0$24b62fe0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001301d978a4$0fb96c00$2f2c4400$@gmail.com>

Jamie, what are your  issues.i wonder. If you can explain I could better help you out.  Have you updated all of the apps on both stores  with samsung devices . There  are two stores  on galaxy store an a google play store.you need to update all aps from both stores on Samsung devices.   Samsung is the only one that  does the two store   policy.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 5:27 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Oops!  I responded to Gary and not your message.  I think you will still get it!  

It's so worth getting a used Android phone for all of the accessibility you will get.  We might be waiting for a while for the iPhone app.  And, if they don't figure out how make the pod info tab more accessible, then I don't know how we will be able to access that important information.  I use Seeing AI on my iPhone to read the pod info that tells you how much insulin is left in the pod and when it actually will expire.
  

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I do agree with this post.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
Mary

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks very much.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
> OmniPod
> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
> Every. Single. Setting!
> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
> avoid night time lows.
> 
> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
> for accessibility reasons.
> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
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From pmaddix at comcast.net  Thu Apr 27 05:20:10 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:20:10 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <0e3001d9789e$364be650$a2e3b2f0$@gmail.com>
References: <0e3001d9789e$364be650$a2e3b2f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <642E3181-9A2C-4B5A-ABFB-D8DCB15821F9@comcast.net>

Gary,
So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Veronica,
> 
> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
> 
> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
> 
>            Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> I do agree with this post.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-)
> Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for your hard work!
> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
> Mary
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Thanks very much.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
>> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>> OmniPod
>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
>> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
>> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, I 
>> have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
>> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>> Every. Single. Setting!
>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
>> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
>> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
>> avoid night time lows.
>> 
>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
>> for accessibility reasons.
>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
>> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
>> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconian6
>> 19%40g
>> mail.com
>> 
>> 
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> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 05:25:22 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:25:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <642E3181-9A2C-4B5A-ABFB-D8DCB15821F9@comcast.net>
References: <0e3001d9789e$364be650$a2e3b2f0$@gmail.com>
 <642E3181-9A2C-4B5A-ABFB-D8DCB15821F9@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>

Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Gary,
So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
Patricia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Veronica,
> 
> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
> 
> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
> 
>            Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for 
> the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> I do agree with this post.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing and 
> thanks for your hard work!
> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
> Mary
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Thanks very much.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>> OmniPod
>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
>> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
>> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, 
>> I have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
>> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>> Every. Single. Setting!
>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
>> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
>> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
>> avoid night time lows.
>> 
>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
>> for accessibility reasons.
>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
>> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
>> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>> 6
>> 19%40g
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>> 
>> 
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From pmaddix at comcast.net  Thu Apr 27 05:27:44 2023
From: pmaddix at comcast.net (Patricia Maddix)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:27:44 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
References: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F965330B-C581-41A9-BF98-B0B054D312D0@comcast.net>

A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Gary,
> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
> Patricia.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Veronica,
>> 
>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>> 
>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>> 
>>           Jamie
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk for 
>> the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> I do agree with this post.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing and 
>> thanks for your hard work!
>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>> Mary
>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> 
>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>> OmniPod
>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with a 
>>> few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to improve 
>>> accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  First off, 
>>> I have no information on the release of the iPhone application, all I 
>>> have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
>>> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set a 
>>> workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this to 
>>> avoid night time lows.
>>> 
>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the tab 
>>> for accessibility reasons.
>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
>>> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon at 
>>> the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconian
>>> 6
>>> 19%40g
>>> mail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisfora
>>> l
>>> ternatives%40gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/veronica%40
>> laurelcreekmusic.com
>> 
>> 
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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>> 19%40gmail.com
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>> nus%40gmail.com
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>> omcast.net
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 05:36:42 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:36:42 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <F965330B-C581-41A9-BF98-B0B054D312D0@comcast.net>
References: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
 <F965330B-C581-41A9-BF98-B0B054D312D0@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001101d978ca$3f8a5ea0$be9f1be0$@gmail.com>

 When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   

https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en

-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Gary,
> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
> Patricia.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Veronica,
>> 
>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>> 
>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>> 
>>           Jamie
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> I do agree with this post.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing and 
>> thanks for your hard work!
>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>> Mary
>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> 
>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>> OmniPod
>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  
>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
>>> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set 
>>> a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this 
>>> to avoid night time lows.
>>> 
>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
>>> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconia
>>> n
>>> 6
>>> 19%40g
>>> mail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisfor
>>> a
>>> l
>>> ternatives%40gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/veronica%4
>> 0
>> laurelcreekmusic.com
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconian
>> 6
>> 19%40gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/jamielgurg
>> a
>> nus%40gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/pmaddix%40
>> c
>> omcast.net
> 
> 
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> 




From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 27 14:16:08 2023
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (Ed Worrell)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 08:16:08 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <001101d978ca$3f8a5ea0$be9f1be0$@gmail.com>
References: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
 <F965330B-C581-41A9-BF98-B0B054D312D0@comcast.net>
 <001101d978ca$3f8a5ea0$be9f1be0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM8P220MB0437E940A977D019F2445188A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hello All,

Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 

Ed 

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
> 
> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net> 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Gary,
>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>> Patricia.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Veronica,
>>> 
>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>> 
>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>> 
>>>          Jamie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing and 
>>> thanks for your hard work!
>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>> OmniPod
>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.  
>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can exercise 
>>>> without the added fear of running low. With this setting we can set 
>>>> a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many people use this 
>>>> to avoid night time lows.
>>>> 
>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and not 
>>>> the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconia
>>>> n
>>>> 6
>>>> 19%40g
>>>> mail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisfor
>>>> a
>>>> l
>>>> ternatives%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/veronica%4
>>> 0
>>> laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> 6
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> a
>>> nus%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/pmaddix%40
>>> c
>>> omcast.net
>> 
>> 
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 14:32:12 2023
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 09:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <DM8P220MB0437E940A977D019F2445188A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Yes, I've done all of what Ed just said too.  The Google keyboard sure made a huge difference.  My son also has hidden everything on my phone, so that only Omnipod, settings and Gluco for the Omnipod data are on my Home screen.  

I'm going to look over the links that Gary sent to see if I missed doing something to make the phone work closer to how the iPhone does.  

				Jamie
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Hello All,

Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 

Ed 

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
> 
> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Gary,
>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>> Patricia.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Veronica,
>>> 
>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>> 
>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>> 
>>>          Jamie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>> OmniPod
>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>> 
>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 16:40:39 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 09:40:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <0f5001d97915$0e4fb880$2aef2980$@gmail.com>
References: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
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Glad that I could help out.   If there  is any other questions  ask an I will do my best to answer them as it relatesto android an talkback .   The reason why all these companies are going towards android is that the  developer fee for android is a one time fee of $25 to set up the developer account and its not like apple developer  account where  you are paying four times that  amount every year.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Yes, I've done all of what Ed just said too.  The Google keyboard sure made a huge difference.  My son also has hidden everything on my phone, so that only Omnipod, settings and Gluco for the Omnipod data are on my Home screen.  

I'm going to look over the links that Gary sent to see if I missed doing something to make the phone work closer to how the iPhone does.  

				Jamie
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Hello All,

Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 

Ed 

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
> 
> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Gary,
>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>> Patricia.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Veronica,
>>> 
>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>> 
>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>> 
>>>          Jamie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>> OmniPod
>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>> 
>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>>> a
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>>>> 6
>>>> 19%40g
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 16:43:38 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 09:43:38 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <DM8P220MB0437E940A977D019F2445188A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
 <F965330B-C581-41A9-BF98-B0B054D312D0@comcast.net>
 <001101d978ca$3f8a5ea0$be9f1be0$@gmail.com>
 <DM8P220MB0437E940A977D019F2445188A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Hello All,

Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 

Ed 

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
> 
> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Gary,
>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>> Patricia.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Veronica,
>>> 
>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>> 
>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>> 
>>>          Jamie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>> OmniPod
>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>> 
>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 16:45:32 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 09:45:32 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <DM8P220MB0437E940A977D019F2445188A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <001001d978c8$aa9e1760$ffda4620$@gmail.com>
 <F965330B-C581-41A9-BF98-B0B054D312D0@comcast.net>
 <001101d978ca$3f8a5ea0$be9f1be0$@gmail.com>
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Ed, anything I can do to help the experience I am  here to help out.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Hello All,

Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 

Ed 

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
> 
> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Gary,
>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>> Patricia.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Veronica,
>>> 
>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>> 
>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>> 
>>>          Jamie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>> OmniPod
>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>> 
>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconi
>>>> a
>>>> n
>>>> 6
>>>> 19%40g
>>>> mail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisfo
>>>> r
>>>> a
>>>> l
>>>> ternatives%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 27 17:29:32 2023
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (Ed Worrell)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 11:29:32 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <005201d97927$6b72a060$4257e120$@gmail.com>
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Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
> 
> Ed 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>> Patricia.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>> 
>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>> 
>>>>         Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>> Veronica
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelconi
>>>>> a
>>>>> n
>>>>> 6
>>>>> 19%40g
>>>>> mail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisfo
>>>>> r
>>>>> a
>>>>> l
>>>>> ternatives%40gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 4
>>>> 0
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 22:00:00 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 15:00:00 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <DM8P220MB0437DD8631BD726539EBE776A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Do agreew with you. I think with all these sort of  third party  health projects which apple does not allow for  unless they approve underer strict   terms, where  as android is more open to  development.i feel the future of health and aspects of health related apps  and devices and services will be on android withs health related and health devices vendors  partnering with Samsung more and more  in the future .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:30 AM
To: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>; Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>> Patricia.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>> 
>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>> 
>>>>         Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>> Veronica
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on 
>>>>> the OmniPod
>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working 
>>>>> with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, 
>>>>> to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gmelcon
>>>>> i
>>>>> a
>>>>> n
>>>>> 6
>>>>> 19%40g
>>>>> mail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mdavisf
>>>>> o
>>>>> r
>>>>> a
>>>>> l
>>>>> ternatives%40gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/veronica
>>>> %
>>>> 4
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> a
>>>> n
>>>> 6
>>>> 19%40gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Apr 27 23:04:53 2023
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:04:53 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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I don't know that I'd be ready to declair that Android is better for health apps. Anybody using the android app for Tandem? Oh wait! Not there. So frankly, I think it's great that there are choices and the pump companies know there are an awful lot of iPhone users out there who don't want to switch to Android. I do get the bit about using it as a receiver though. 
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:30 AM
To: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
> 
> Ed 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>> Patricia.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>> 
>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>> 
>>>>         Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>> Veronica
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the 
>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with 
>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to 
>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 00:21:20 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 17:21:20 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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Veronica, I am not going to  argue vwith you.its this bias type of  attitude and mind set that get he blind community no wewhere with major companies.but how do you know that there is not a app for x or y health  company or device. Have you checked.as well google is working with all of its health party companies to accomplish the health connectivity bridge , called health connect.its currently in beta  and will be default in android 14.  it will be called health connect which will connect all of these third party  health devices and apps  to the health connect bridge  .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 4:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I don't know that I'd be ready to declair that Android is better for health apps. Anybody using the android app for Tandem? Oh wait! Not there. So frankly, I think it's great that there are choices and the pump companies know there are an awful lot of iPhone users out there who don't want to switch to Android. I do get the bit about using it as a receiver though. 
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:30 AM
To: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>> Patricia.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>> 
>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>> 
>>>>         Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>> Veronica
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on 
>>>>> the OmniPod
>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working 
>>>>> with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, 
>>>>> to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 00:26:28 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 17:26:28 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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Veronica, here you go You are basing your facts  and research on past history . Do a bit of googling before you make false cclaims that are not true. Heres the link to the Tandum  app on android and the playstore link.  


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tandemdiabetes.tconnect&hl=en_US&gl=US

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 4:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

I don't know that I'd be ready to declair that Android is better for health apps. Anybody using the android app for Tandem? Oh wait! Not there. So frankly, I think it's great that there are choices and the pump companies know there are an awful lot of iPhone users out there who don't want to switch to Android. I do get the bit about using it as a receiver though. 
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:30 AM
To: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>> 
>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>> Patricia.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>> 
>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>> 
>>>>         Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>> Veronica
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on 
>>>>> the OmniPod
>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working 
>>>>> with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, 
>>>>> to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Fri Apr 28 02:38:39 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 22:38:39 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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How long will I have to wait before we get it on the apple?
Dar
Original message:
> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They 
> are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android 
> world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on 
> accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, 
> it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> 
>> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with 
>> some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility 
>> team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience 
>> for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use 
>> cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille 
>> display issues  in talk back.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>> Hello All,

>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really 
>> close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback 
>> actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the 
>> Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this 
>> makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed 
>> me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also 
>> installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing 
>> experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on 
>> screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit 
>> curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the 
>> iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that 
>> I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as 
>> I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not 
>> reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it 
>> was amazing!

>> Ed

>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  
>>> lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk 
>>> back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back 
>>> setttings.     But will post the info here .

>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:

>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over 
>>>> jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  
>>>> jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android 
>>>> and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for 
>>>> different situations.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>> Gary,
>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the 
>>>> voiceover gestures?
>>>> Patricia.

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> ?Veronica,

>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, 
>>>>> the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on 
>>>>> Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  
>>>>> I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and 
>>>>> everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when 
>>>>> typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with 
>>>>> Talk Back.

>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing 
>>>>> what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just 
>>>>> fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!

>>>>>         Jamie


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now 
>>>>> the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would 
>>>>> go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the 
>>>>> best with Samsung devices .

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my 
>>>>> greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out 
>>>>> soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. 
>>>>> But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the 
>>>>> accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone 
>>>>> accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> 
>>>>> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>> Veronica


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk
>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> I do agree with this post.

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing
>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>> Mary

>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>>> Hello Listers,

>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the
>>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with
>>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to
>>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone
>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd 
>>>>>> quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the
>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb
>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target 
>>>>>> glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can
>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting
>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many
>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.

>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been
>>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the
>>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app.
>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and
>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon
>>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.


>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>> Ed Worrell


>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 05:47:15 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 22:47:15 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <549afec4.cb0d.4cc5.b162.3db728fe73bd@samobile.net>
References: <DM8P220MB0437DD8631BD726539EBE776A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Honestly don?t know.  Its  based on stupid apple  app policies.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:39 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

How long will I have to wait before we get it on the apple?
Dar
Original message:
> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They 
> are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the 
> Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on 
> accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, 
> it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.


>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> 
>> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with 
>> some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the 
>> accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to 
>> apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for 
>> specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  
>> and braille display issues  in talk back.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>> Hello All,

>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is 
>> really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with 
>> Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I 
>> installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just 
>> like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This 
>> launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or 
>> will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google 
>> and now the typing experience is much better and far less 
>> touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.

>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit 
>> curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the 
>> iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking 
>> that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes 
>> out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people 
>> can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other 
>> day and it was amazing!

>> Ed

>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big 
>>> lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk 
>>> back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back
>>> setttings.     But will post the info here .

>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=e
>>> n

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:

>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over 
>>>> jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back 
>>>> jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and 
>>>> android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on 
>>>> android  for different situations.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>> Gary,
>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as 
>>>> the voiceover gestures?
>>>> Patricia.

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> ?Veronica,

>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 
>>>>> 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I 
>>>>> found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.
>>>>> I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the 
>>>>> Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too 
>>>>> frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's 
>>>>> version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.

>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend 
>>>>> doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage 
>>>>> it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!

>>>>>         Jamie


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now 
>>>>> the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would 
>>>>> go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the 
>>>>> best with Samsung devices .

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out 
>>>>> my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't 
>>>>> come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack.
>>>>> But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the 
>>>>> accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into 
>>>>> iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. 
>>>>> <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>> Veronica


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk
>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> I do agree with this post.

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing
>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>> Mary

>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

>>>>>> Hello Listers,

>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the
>>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with
>>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to
>>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone
>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd 
>>>>>> quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the
>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb
>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target 
>>>>>> glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can
>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting
>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many
>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.

>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been
>>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the
>>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app.
>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and
>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon
>>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.


>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>> Ed Worrell


>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>>>>> a
>>>>>> n
>>>>>> 6
>>>>>> 19%40g
>>>>>> mail.com


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>>>>>> r
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> l
>>>>>> ternatives%40gmail.com


>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 28 13:41:05 2023
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (Ed Worrell)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 07:41:05 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <001601d97994$e382a150$aa87e3f0$@gmail.com>
References: <DM8P220MB0437DD8631BD726539EBE776A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <549afec4.cb0d.4cc5.b162.3db728fe73bd@samobile.net>
 <001601d97994$e382a150$aa87e3f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SJ0P220MB0448869C24BB682050CC7B9AA06B9@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Gary,

There you go blaming Apple again. You just went on a rant arguing with Veronica, about bias in the blind world. Apple VS. Android. I actually have been told it?s not a hold up with Apple, it?s an FDA hold up with the app. They also have to rework the back end of the app so it?s compatible with the Apple notification system and many other basic operating system requirements. The reason it was on the Samsung?s devices first was because it was created for a very locked down Samsung handset, from what I can tell could be from the early 2000?s. I?m glad that they are working towards getting it on Apple devices, but your statement about it being an Apple issue is completely wrong.

Ed


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 11:47 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Honestly don?t know.  Its  based on stupid apple  app policies.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> How long will I have to wait before we get it on the apple?
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They 
>> are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the 
>> Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on 
>> accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, 
>> it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> 
>>> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with 
>>> some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the 
>>> accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to 
>>> apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for 
>>> specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  
>>> and braille display issues  in talk back.
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>> Hello All,
> 
>>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is 
>>> really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with 
>>> Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I 
>>> installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just 
>>> like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This 
>>> launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or 
>>> will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google 
>>> and now the typing experience is much better and far less 
>>> touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
>>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit 
>>> curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the 
>>> iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking 
>>> that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes 
>>> out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people 
>>> can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other 
>>> day and it was amazing!
> 
>>> Ed
> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big 
>>>> lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk 
>>>> back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back
>>>> setttings.     But will post the info here .
> 
>>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=e
>>>> n
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over 
>>>>> jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back 
>>>>> jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and 
>>>>> android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on 
>>>>> android  for different situations.
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as 
>>>>> the voiceover gestures?
>>>>> Patricia.
> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> ?Veronica,
> 
>>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 
>>>>>> 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I 
>>>>>> found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.
>>>>>> I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the 
>>>>>> Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too 
>>>>>> frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's 
>>>>>> version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.
> 
>>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend 
>>>>>> doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage 
>>>>>> it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
> 
>>>>>>        Jamie
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now 
>>>>>> the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would 
>>>>>> go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the 
>>>>>> best with Samsung devices .
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out 
>>>>>> my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't 
>>>>>> come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack.
>>>>>> But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the 
>>>>>> accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into 
>>>>>> iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. 
>>>>>> <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk
>>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I do agree with this post.
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing
>>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>>> Mary
> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.
> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
> 
>>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the
>>>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with
>>>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to
>>>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone
>>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd 
>>>>>>> quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the
>>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb
>>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target 
>>>>>>> glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can
>>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting
>>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many
>>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
> 
>>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been
>>>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the
>>>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app.
>>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and
>>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon
>>>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
> 
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> a
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>>>>>>> 6
>>>>>>> 19%40g
>>>>>>> mail.com
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 28 13:46:41 2023
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (Ed Worrell)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 07:46:41 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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Gary,

2. Google Health Bridge? We?ll see if companies and medical device manufacturers play along. Apple has Apple health kit, and it?s like pulling teeth to get companies to support it. I think we?ll see the same thing on the Android side of things, The manufactures want to keep your health data all to themselves. It took years for Dexcom to support Apple Health Kit, and some real convincing that your health data is just that. Your data. Good luck, and I hope that Google fairs better, but some how I really doubt it.

Ed


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 6:21 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, I am not going to  argue vwith you.its this bias type of  attitude and mind set that get he blind community no wewhere with major companies.but how do you know that there is not a app for x or y health  company or device. Have you checked.as well google is working with all of its health party companies to accomplish the health connectivity bridge , called health connect.its currently in beta  and will be default in android 14.  it will be called health connect which will connect all of these third party  health devices and apps  to the health connect bridge  .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 4:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> I don't know that I'd be ready to declair that Android is better for health apps. Anybody using the android app for Tandem? Oh wait! Not there. So frankly, I think it's great that there are choices and the pump companies know there are an awful lot of iPhone users out there who don't want to switch to Android. I do get the bit about using it as a receiver though. 
> Veronica
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:30 AM
> To: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
>> 
>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>>> 
>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=en
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Gary,
>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>>> Patricia.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Jamie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on 
>>>>>> the OmniPod
>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working 
>>>>>> with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, 
>>>>>> to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been 
>>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the 
>>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon 
>>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 21:10:36 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 14:10:36 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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Ed, here you go there is a link below  to the health connect developments.actually dexcom is one of the partners working with google health connect as well a bunch of others  health companies. Hope that helps you out with the  info.  

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2022/11/leading-health-and-fitness-apps-roll-out-health-connect-integrations.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 6:47 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Gary,

2. Google Health Bridge? We?ll see if companies and medical device manufacturers play along. Apple has Apple health kit, and it?s like pulling teeth to get companies to support it. I think we?ll see the same thing on the Android side of things, The manufactures want to keep your health data all to themselves. It took years for Dexcom to support Apple Health Kit, and some real convincing that your health data is just that. Your data. Good luck, and I hope that Google fairs better, but some how I really doubt it.

Ed


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 6:21 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, I am not going to  argue vwith you.its this bias type of  attitude and mind set that get he blind community no wewhere with major companies.but how do you know that there is not a app for x or y health  company or device. Have you checked.as well google is working with all of its health party companies to accomplish the health connectivity bridge , called health connect.its currently in beta  and will be default in android 14.  it will be called health connect which will connect all of these third party  health devices and apps  to the health connect bridge  .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 4:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> I don't know that I'd be ready to declair that Android is better for health apps. Anybody using the android app for Tandem? Oh wait! Not there. So frankly, I think it's great that there are choices and the pump companies know there are an awful lot of iPhone users out there who don't want to switch to Android. I do get the bit about using it as a receiver though. 
> Veronica
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:30 AM
> To: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  and braille display issues  in talk back.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google and now the typing experience is much better and far less touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
>> 
>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other day and it was amazing! 
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big  lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back setttings.     But will post the info here .   
>>> 
>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=e
>>> n
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>> 
>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back  jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on android  for different situations.    
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>> 
>>>> Gary,
>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as the voiceover gestures?
>>>> Patricia.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Veronica,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.  I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
>>>>> 
>>>>>        Jamie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the best with Samsung devices .  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack. But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk 
>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do agree with this post.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>> 
>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on 
>>>>>> the OmniPod
>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working 
>>>>>> with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, 
>>>>>> to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting 
>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many 
>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have 
>>>>>> been told this is in the works. As the developers have to 
>>>>>> redesign the tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app. 
>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator 
>>>>>> icon at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Apr 29 02:28:26 2023
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:28:26 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
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The main reason Omnipod came out as an Android first is that two of their existing units were based on Android phones already. For their receivers were actual Android phones with the phone part removed. I tried very hard to start a project in 2017 to get Google Health to work with them, put part of the phone back in, so the TalkBack module could be installed. But allas, that didn't happen, or you would have known about it. The people at Insulet told me that they were having to work hard to switch architecture and get approvals.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 6:41 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Gary,

There you go blaming Apple again. You just went on a rant arguing with Veronica, about bias in the blind world. Apple VS. Android. I actually have been told it?s not a hold up with Apple, it?s an FDA hold up with the app. They also have to rework the back end of the app so it?s compatible with the Apple notification system and many other basic operating system requirements. The reason it was on the Samsung?s devices first was because it was created for a very locked down Samsung handset, from what I can tell could be from the early 2000?s. I?m glad that they are working towards getting it on Apple devices, but your statement about it being an Apple issue is completely wrong.

Ed


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 11:47 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Honestly don?t know.  Its  based on stupid apple  app policies.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> How long will I have to wait before we get it on the apple?
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They 
>> are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the 
>> Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on 
>> accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, 
>> it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> 
>>> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with 
>>> some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the 
>>> accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to 
>>> apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for 
>>> specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  
>>> and braille display issues  in talk back.
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>> Hello All,
> 
>>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is 
>>> really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with 
>>> Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I 
>>> installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just 
>>> like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This 
>>> launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or 
>>> will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google 
>>> and now the typing experience is much better and far less 
>>> touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
>>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit 
>>> curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the 
>>> iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking 
>>> that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes 
>>> out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people 
>>> can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other 
>>> day and it was amazing!
> 
>>> Ed
> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big 
>>>> lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk 
>>>> back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back
>>>> setttings.     But will post the info here .
> 
>>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=e
>>>> n
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over 
>>>>> jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back 
>>>>> jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and 
>>>>> android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on 
>>>>> android  for different situations.
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as 
>>>>> the voiceover gestures?
>>>>> Patricia.
> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> ?Veronica,
> 
>>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 
>>>>>> 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I 
>>>>>> found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.
>>>>>> I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the 
>>>>>> Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too 
>>>>>> frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's 
>>>>>> version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.
> 
>>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend 
>>>>>> doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage 
>>>>>> it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
> 
>>>>>>        Jamie
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now 
>>>>>> the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would 
>>>>>> go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the 
>>>>>> best with Samsung devices .
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out 
>>>>>> my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't 
>>>>>> come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack.
>>>>>> But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the 
>>>>>> accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into 
>>>>>> iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. 
>>>>>> <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk
>>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I do agree with this post.
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing
>>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>>> Mary
> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.
> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
> 
>>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the
>>>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with
>>>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to
>>>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone
>>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd 
>>>>>>> quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the
>>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb
>>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target 
>>>>>>> glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can
>>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting
>>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many
>>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
> 
>>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been
>>>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the
>>>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app.
>>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and
>>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon
>>>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
> 
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
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From mafeliz0641 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 02:56:19 2023
From: mafeliz0641 at gmail.com (Mark Feliz)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:56:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] DAN fundraiser
In-Reply-To: <033901d97887$58d25e00$0a771a00$@charter.net>
References: <033901d97887$58d25e00$0a771a00$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <8047FA31-6788-4E9E-9412-055C434F8021@gmail.com>

Hello, am having much difficulty ordering, is any one else having difficulty? Ican not seem to be able to check out.
Mark Feliz


Sent from my iPhone Mark Feliz

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello friends, below is a live link to  Dot Shop. The items listed are
> appropriate for all diabetics, family members and friends.  Please share
> with everyone that you know as well as treat yourselves.
> 
> 
> 
> Money raised will be used for our upcoming seminar.
> 
> 
> 
> The DAN board thanks all of you in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.dotshopusa.com/diabetes-fundraiser?fbclid=IwAR3bhtGi3cipib4MhE4Yg
> P5JmuojplpXL4cqK0ycwAIgEhkK5KakGzHBGjQ
> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Apr 29 03:44:33 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:44:33 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
Message-ID: <c2260b9d.80da.4c74.b196.81259b873e90@samobile.net>

Land sakes,
I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get 
cold when the wind blows.
Just crazy to me.
Dar


From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 04:11:04 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:11:04 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
In-Reply-To: <002101d97a42$4776ab90$d66402b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <DM8P220MB0437DD8631BD726539EBE776A06A9@DM8P220MB0437.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <549afec4.cb0d.4cc5.b162.3db728fe73bd@samobile.net>
 <001601d97994$e382a150$aa87e3f0$@gmail.com>
 <SJ0P220MB0448869C24BB682050CC7B9AA06B9@SJ0P220MB0448.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <002101d97a42$4776ab90$d66402b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000e01d97a50$9de7d950$d9b78bf0$@gmail.com>

ok, veronica, I see.   Sorry about the misunderstanding.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 7:28 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

The main reason Omnipod came out as an Android first is that two of their existing units were based on Android phones already. For their receivers were actual Android phones with the phone part removed. I tried very hard to start a project in 2017 to get Google Health to work with them, put part of the phone back in, so the TalkBack module could be installed. But allas, that didn't happen, or you would have known about it. The people at Insulet told me that they were having to work hard to switch architecture and get approvals.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 6:41 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Gary,

There you go blaming Apple again. You just went on a rant arguing with Veronica, about bias in the blind world. Apple VS. Android. I actually have been told it?s not a hold up with Apple, it?s an FDA hold up with the app. They also have to rework the back end of the app so it?s compatible with the Apple notification system and many other basic operating system requirements. The reason it was on the Samsung?s devices first was because it was created for a very locked down Samsung handset, from what I can tell could be from the early 2000?s. I?m glad that they are working towards getting it on Apple devices, but your statement about it being an Apple issue is completely wrong.

Ed


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 11:47 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Honestly don?t know.  Its  based on stupid apple  app policies.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> How long will I have to wait before we get it on the apple?
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. 
>> They are honestly not a big deal to me. That?s why I jumped into the 
>> Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on 
>> accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, 
>> it?s becoming a  great platform, and I?m glad I jumped in with both feet.
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> 
>>> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with 
>>> some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the 
>>> accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to 
>>> apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android 
>>> for specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of 
>>> braille and braille display issues  in talk back.
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>> Hello All,
> 
>>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is 
>>> really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with 
>>> Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I 
>>> installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just 
>>> like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This 
>>> launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn?t need, or 
>>> will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google 
>>> and now the typing experience is much better and far less 
>>> touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
>>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit 
>>> curious about the system. Nothing says that you can?t switch to the 
>>> iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking 
>>> that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes 
>>> out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people 
>>> can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other 
>>> day and it was amazing!
> 
>>> Ed
> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big 
>>>> lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk 
>>>> back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back
>>>> setttings.     But will post the info here .
> 
>>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=
>>>> e
>>>> n
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>>>>> ?Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over 
>>>>> jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk 
>>>>> back jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS 
>>>>> and android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and 
>>>>> talkback on android  for different situations.
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as 
>>>>> the voiceover gestures?
>>>>> Patricia.
> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> ?Veronica,
> 
>>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 
>>>>>> 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I 
>>>>>> found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.
>>>>>> I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the 
>>>>>> Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too 
>>>>>> frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's 
>>>>>> version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.
> 
>>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend 
>>>>>> doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage 
>>>>>> it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
> 
>>>>>>        Jamie
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now 
>>>>>> the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would 
>>>>>> go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the 
>>>>>> best with Samsung devices .
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out 
>>>>>> my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't 
>>>>>> come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack.
>>>>>> But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the 
>>>>>> accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into 
>>>>>> iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well.
>>>>>> <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes 
>>>>>> Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I do agree with this post.
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing 
>>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>>> I?m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>>> Mary
> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> ?Thanks very much.
> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>>> Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
> 
>>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on 
>>>>>>> the OmniPod
>>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working 
>>>>>>> with a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or 
>>>>>>> so, to improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone 
>>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 
>>>>>>> 2nd quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the 
>>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb 
>>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, 
>>>>>>> target glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can 
>>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this 
>>>>>>> setting we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen 
>>>>>>> many people use this to avoid night time lows.
> 
>>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have 
>>>>>>> been told this is in the works. As the developers have to 
>>>>>>> redesign the tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app.
>>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and 
>>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator 
>>>>>>> icon at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
> 
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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From mafeliz0641 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 04:17:10 2023
From: mafeliz0641 at gmail.com (Mark Feliz)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:17:10 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
In-Reply-To: <c2260b9d.80da.4c74.b196.81259b873e90@samobile.net>
References: <c2260b9d.80da.4c74.b196.81259b873e90@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <8CEC464A-CDF6-46E5-B40B-2DE3526EE567@gmail.com>

Up until about 2 years ago I needed my air conditioner to be set at 72 or 73. Now I am very comfortable at 77 78 degrees. Hmmmm.

Sent from my iPhone Mark Feliz

> On Apr 28, 2023, at 8:45 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Land sakes,
> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get cold when the wind blows.
> Just crazy to me.
> Dar
> 
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 06:34:05 2023
From: joystigile at gmail.com (joystigile at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:34:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] DAN fundraiser
In-Reply-To: <8047FA31-6788-4E9E-9412-055C434F8021@gmail.com>
References: <033901d97887$58d25e00$0a771a00$@charter.net>
 <8047FA31-6788-4E9E-9412-055C434F8021@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005901d97a64$989721e0$c9c565a0$@gmail.com>

Hi  Mark,
I have not checked out yet but, here is the phone number on their website you could try.
417.252.3561
I will let you know when I finish my order what happens.

Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mark Feliz via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 7:56 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Feliz <mafeliz0641 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] DAN fundraiser

Hello, am having much difficulty ordering, is any one else having difficulty? Ican not seem to be able to check out.
Mark Feliz


Sent from my iPhone Mark Feliz

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello friends, below is a live link to  Dot Shop. The items listed 
> are appropriate for all diabetics, family members and friends.  Please 
> share with everyone that you know as well as treat yourselves.
> 
> 
> 
> Money raised will be used for our upcoming seminar.
> 
> 
> 
> The DAN board thanks all of you in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.dotshopusa.com/diabetes-fundraiser?fbclid=IwAR3bhtGi3cipib4
> MhE4Yg P5JmuojplpXL4cqK0ycwAIgEhkK5KakGzHBGjQ
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 11:56:34 2023
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 06:56:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] DAN fundraiser
In-Reply-To: <005901d97a64$989721e0$c9c565a0$@gmail.com>
References: <005901d97a64$989721e0$c9c565a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B7E7614-7A1E-4A06-9FF3-1DC3271DAF27@gmail.com>

Yes, I had trouble completing my order as well. I gave up on it.

         Jamie

Jamie Gurganus, Resource Coach


Phone: 515-291-8451

?Be your self. Everyone else is already taken.?  Oscar Wilde 

> On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:35 AM, Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi  Mark,
> I have not checked out yet but, here is the phone number on their website you could try.
> 417.252.3561
> I will let you know when I finish my order what happens.
> 
> Warmly, Joy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mark Feliz via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 7:56 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Feliz <mafeliz0641 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] DAN fundraiser
> 
> Hello, am having much difficulty ordering, is any one else having difficulty? Ican not seem to be able to check out.
> Mark Feliz
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Mark Feliz
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello friends, below is a live link to  Dot Shop. The items listed 
>> are appropriate for all diabetics, family members and friends.  Please 
>> share with everyone that you know as well as treat yourselves.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Money raised will be used for our upcoming seminar.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The DAN board thanks all of you in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> 
>> Debbie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.dotshopusa.com/diabetes-fundraiser?fbclid=IwAR3bhtGi3cipib4
>> MhE4Yg P5JmuojplpXL4cqK0ycwAIgEhkK5KakGzHBGjQ
>> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 12:16:27 2023
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 07:16:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
In-Reply-To: <c2260b9d.80da.4c74.b196.81259b873e90@samobile.net>
References: <c2260b9d.80da.4c74.b196.81259b873e90@samobile.net>
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Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am on my
couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the refrigerator
gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might be Raynaud's
though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am colder than most
people and love being able to get out of the air conditioning in the summer
by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  Even in the summer, I carry a
jacket with me for when I am in stores or restaurants, but that doesn't
solve my frozen hand issue.  I did buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone
charger that helps.

I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it is more
Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.

			Jamie
  
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold

Land sakes,
I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get cold
when the wind blows.
Just crazy to me.
Dar

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Apr 29 13:53:25 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:53:25 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
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Message-ID: <b48b967a.f051.4318.91b8.6c762549cb2f@samobile.net>

Oh my goodness,
Today my hands and feet are warm
Go figure.
Dar
Original message:
> Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am on my
> couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the refrigerator
> gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might be Raynaud's
> though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am colder than most
> people and love being able to get out of the air conditioning in the summer
> by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  Even in the summer, I carry a
> jacket with me for when I am in stores or restaurants, but that doesn't
> solve my frozen hand issue.  I did buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone
> charger that helps.

> I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it is more
> Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.

>                         Jamie

> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold

> Land sakes,
> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get cold
> when the wind blows.
> Just crazy to me.
> Dar

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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 15:05:20 2023
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 11:05:20 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
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As for me, I am the exact opposite!! My husband calls me the walking furnace!! He and the rest of my family are always cold. Just freezing, most of the time. I am always hot. And when I get real stressed out, my sugars drop like a rock!! So, I really have to watch that. My sugars drop like a rock in the extremes. Extreme cold, as well as extreme heat!! When we went to Thailand to get our daughter Virginia, I literally had to stop taking my NovoLog insulin. My 24 hour insulin still ran me low!! It was crazy!! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2023, at 9:56 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Oh my goodness,
> Today my hands and feet are warm
> Go figure.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am on my
>> couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the refrigerator
>> gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might be Raynaud's
>> though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am colder than most
>> people and love being able to get out of the air conditioning in the summer
>> by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  Even in the summer, I carry a
>> jacket with me for when I am in stores or restaurants, but that doesn't
>> solve my frozen hand issue.  I did buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone
>> charger that helps.
> 
>> I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it is more
>> Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.
> 
>>                        Jamie
> 
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>> via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
> 
>> Land sakes,
>> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
>> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get cold
>> when the wind blows.
>> Just crazy to me.
>> Dar
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 17:19:57 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 10:19:57 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
In-Reply-To: <B3DF6887-9F8E-40AB-B2F3-70DDF28AEEFD@gmail.com>
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Its interesting how weather  conditions  impact diabetes management.    

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Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 8:05 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cold

As for me, I am the exact opposite!! My husband calls me the walking furnace!! He and the rest of my family are always cold. Just freezing, most of the time. I am always hot. And when I get real stressed out, my sugars drop like a rock!! So, I really have to watch that. My sugars drop like a rock in the extremes. Extreme cold, as well as extreme heat!! When we went to Thailand to get our daughter Virginia, I literally had to stop taking my NovoLog insulin. My 24 hour insulin still ran me low!! It was crazy!! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2023, at 9:56 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Oh my goodness,
> Today my hands and feet are warm
> Go figure.
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am 
>> on my couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the 
>> refrigerator gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might 
>> be Raynaud's though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am 
>> colder than most people and love being able to get out of the air 
>> conditioning in the summer by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  
>> Even in the summer, I carry a jacket with me for when I am in stores 
>> or restaurants, but that doesn't solve my frozen hand issue.  I did 
>> buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone charger that helps.
> 
>> I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it 
>> is more Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.
> 
>>                        Jamie
> 
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
> 
>> Land sakes,
>> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
>> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get 
>> cold when the wind blows.
>> Just crazy to me.
>> Dar
> 
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 01:21:24 2023
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 21:21:24 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Ohio DAN meeting: Dexcom Presentation May 6 at
 10:30 AM Eastern
Message-ID: <03fc01d97b02$150fd350$3f2f79f0$@gmail.com>

Greetings NFB, DAN, Family and Friends,

 

Please feel free to share this invitation with anyone that may benefit from
the information.  

 

On May 6, 2023 at 10:30 AM Eastern, on the Ohio Affiliate Zoom platform (see
Zoom platform information below), the Ohio Diabetes Action Network will
present an opportunity to dialogue with Dexcom at our division meeting. All
are welcome! Please bring your questions about continuous glucose
monitors(CGM)  and allow Dexcom representatives to present, explain and
answer questions on their products. The speakers will be:

 

Lisa Carpenter, RD, CDCES

Dexcom Senior Patient Care Specialist

 

 

Lindsay Cox, RN, BSN

Dexcom Senior Territory Business Manager

 

Once Dexcom has finished their presentation and answered questions, the Ohio
Diabetes Action Network will have our division meeting. All are welcome to
listen.

 

Thank you, we hope that you will attend.

 

 

Sincerely,

Walter Mitchell

President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network

(513) 250-2432

 <mailto:Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

 

Purpose:

The Diabetes Action Network Educate, Empower and Inspire blind and visually
impaired people to independently and confidently manage diabetes!

 

 

Ohio Zoom Information:

https://zoom.us/j/4081850851

 

 

Meeting ID: 408 185 0851

 

 

One tap mobile +1-646-876-9923, 4081850851# US

 

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/abdqTMSdcy

 

Live The Life You Want!

 

 

 

 

 

 


From dallastx12a at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 04:50:46 2023
From: dallastx12a at gmail.com (Joel)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 23:50:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
Message-ID: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

Sent from my iPhone

From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 05:58:30 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 22:58:30 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006301d97b28$caa30590$5fe910b0$@gmail.com>

I have a Dexcom G7 and it works great, I've only seen the lebre once so I
couldn't even guess about which one is better. 

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 9:51 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

Sent from my iPhone
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From taylor9209 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 06:31:21 2023
From: taylor9209 at gmail.com (Taylor Scott)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 01:31:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE5LqVwCStrZr6K1eGz1aSoyRadG=A0j8zQpmciqaegG9qSv1g@mail.gmail.com>

The biggest question is cost.

One system is a good deal cheaper, but if you go off the assumption
you can have either system....

First thing is they are both good systems.
There isn't a bad option in my opinion.
I've used Freestyle for a while, and it did what it needed too.
I have not used the libre 3 yet, so no clue about it.

I'm currently using the Dexcom G7, and until I can test the Libre 3,
I'm sticking with the dexcom G7.

If you've got spacific questions, about either system just ask and we
will be happy to help.

Both work with voiceover, ETC so everything should be straight forward
on the accessibility frunt.



On 4/29/23, Joel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone
> Hoping all of you are doing great.
> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
> regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
> Thanks everyone
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From mota1252 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 11:49:13 2023
From: mota1252 at gmail.com (Milton)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 06:49:13 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001901d97b59$c9377160$5ba65420$@gmail.com>

Hi,
I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

Sent from my iPhone
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From capelle.mike at spectrum.net  Sun Apr 30 12:18:46 2023
From: capelle.mike at spectrum.net (Capelle, Michael C.)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 07:18:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <006301d97b28$caa30590$5fe910b0$@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
 <006301d97b28$caa30590$5fe910b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002401d97b5d$e9d6e550$bd84aff0$@spectrum.net>

I like the lebra, it fits on your arm, and is very accurtate.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Les
Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 12:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

I have a Dexcom G7 and it works great, I've only seen the lebre once so I
couldn't even guess about which one is better. 

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 9:51 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

Sent from my iPhone
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From deniserob at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 12:19:00 2023
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr Denise M Robinson)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 08:19:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
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References: <00cd01d97abe$d2ba7430$782f5c90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D00C4695-9E6B-4DB9-A164-68042B37BE3E@gmail.com>

Check your thyroid because if your thyroid is too low, it will make you cold. Most diabetics also have thyroid issues, so most of you are probably on some type of thyroid medication. It just might be needed to be slightly adjusted. I typically run cool and always have a light jacket with me and I do have thyroid issues. But I have noticed if I adjust medication  slightly up, I will run a little bit warmer

Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 

> On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:20 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Its interesting how weather  conditions  impact diabetes management.    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 8:05 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
> 
> As for me, I am the exact opposite!! My husband calls me the walking furnace!! He and the rest of my family are always cold. Just freezing, most of the time. I am always hot. And when I get real stressed out, my sugars drop like a rock!! So, I really have to watch that. My sugars drop like a rock in the extremes. Extreme cold, as well as extreme heat!! When we went to Thailand to get our daughter Virginia, I literally had to stop taking my NovoLog insulin. My 24 hour insulin still ran me low!! It was crazy!! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2023, at 9:56 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Oh my goodness,
>> Today my hands and feet are warm
>> Go figure.
>> Dar
>> Original message:
>>> Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am 
>>> on my couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the 
>>> refrigerator gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might 
>>> be Raynaud's though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am 
>>> colder than most people and love being able to get out of the air 
>>> conditioning in the summer by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  
>>> Even in the summer, I carry a jacket with me for when I am in stores 
>>> or restaurants, but that doesn't solve my frozen hand issue.  I did 
>>> buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone charger that helps.
>> 
>>> I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it 
>>> is more Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.
>> 
>>>                       Jamie
>> 
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
>> 
>>> Land sakes,
>>> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
>>> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get 
>>> cold when the wind blows.
>>> Just crazy to me.
>>> Dar
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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From r.j.pawlick at outlook.com  Sun Apr 30 13:57:40 2023
From: r.j.pawlick at outlook.com (R.J. Pawlick)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 13:57:40 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
In-Reply-To: <D00C4695-9E6B-4DB9-A164-68042B37BE3E@gmail.com>
References: <00cd01d97abe$d2ba7430$782f5c90$@gmail.com>
 <D00C4695-9E6B-4DB9-A164-68042B37BE3E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BN7PR17MB21320AF89F30F39F6E21233AAF699@BN7PR17MB2132.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

For the information and great advice! I hope you have a nice day

Kindly,

Bob
> On Apr 30, 2023, at 8:21 AM, Dr Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Check your thyroid because if your thyroid is too low, it will make you cold. Most diabetics also have thyroid issues, so most of you are probably on some type of thyroid medication. It just might be needed to be slightly adjusted. I typically run cool and always have a light jacket with me and I do have thyroid issues. But I have noticed if I adjust medication  slightly up, I will run a little bit warmer
> 
> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:20 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Its interesting how weather  conditions  impact diabetes management.    
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 8:05 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
>> 
>> As for me, I am the exact opposite!! My husband calls me the walking furnace!! He and the rest of my family are always cold. Just freezing, most of the time. I am always hot. And when I get real stressed out, my sugars drop like a rock!! So, I really have to watch that. My sugars drop like a rock in the extremes. Extreme cold, as well as extreme heat!! When we went to Thailand to get our daughter Virginia, I literally had to stop taking my NovoLog insulin. My 24 hour insulin still ran me low!! It was crazy!! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2023, at 9:56 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Oh my goodness,
>>> Today my hands and feet are warm
>>> Go figure.
>>> Dar
>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am 
>>>> on my couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the 
>>>> refrigerator gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might 
>>>> be Raynaud's though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am 
>>>> colder than most people and love being able to get out of the air 
>>>> conditioning in the summer by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  
>>>> Even in the summer, I carry a jacket with me for when I am in stores 
>>>> or restaurants, but that doesn't solve my frozen hand issue.  I did 
>>>> buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone charger that helps.
>>> 
>>>> I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it 
>>>> is more Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.
>>> 
>>>>                      Jamie
>>> 
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
>>> 
>>>> Land sakes,
>>>> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
>>>> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get 
>>>> cold when the wind blows.
>>>> Just crazy to me.
>>>> Dar
>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>>> anus%40
>>>> gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Apr 30 15:43:53 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (Dar)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 09:43:53 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
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I go get blood work done tomorrow. 
They say all is well. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Apr 30, 2023, at 7:59 AM, R.J. Pawlick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?For the information and great advice! I hope you have a nice day
> 
> Kindly,
> 
> Bob
>> On Apr 30, 2023, at 8:21 AM, Dr Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Check your thyroid because if your thyroid is too low, it will make you cold. Most diabetics also have thyroid issues, so most of you are probably on some type of thyroid medication. It just might be needed to be slightly adjusted. I typically run cool and always have a light jacket with me and I do have thyroid issues. But I have noticed if I adjust medication  slightly up, I will run a little bit warmer
>> 
>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:20 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Its interesting how weather  conditions  impact diabetes management.    
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 8:05 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
>>> 
>>> As for me, I am the exact opposite!! My husband calls me the walking furnace!! He and the rest of my family are always cold. Just freezing, most of the time. I am always hot. And when I get real stressed out, my sugars drop like a rock!! So, I really have to watch that. My sugars drop like a rock in the extremes. Extreme cold, as well as extreme heat!! When we went to Thailand to get our daughter Virginia, I literally had to stop taking my NovoLog insulin. My 24 hour insulin still ran me low!! It was crazy!! 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 29, 2023, at 9:56 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Oh my goodness,
>>>> Today my hands and feet are warm
>>>> Go figure.
>>>> Dar
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Hi Dar!  I am always cold and live under my heated blanket when I am 
>>>>> on my couch.  My hands drive me crazy.  Just getting items out of the 
>>>>> refrigerator gets them so cold that my fingers become numb.  It might 
>>>>> be Raynaud's though, since my mom also has this problem.  But, I am 
>>>>> colder than most people and love being able to get out of the air 
>>>>> conditioning in the summer by sitting out in the hot, summer heat!  
>>>>> Even in the summer, I carry a jacket with me for when I am in stores 
>>>>> or restaurants, but that doesn't solve my frozen hand issue.  I did 
>>>>> buy a hand warmer that doubles as a phone charger that helps.
>>>> 
>>>>> I always thought it was due to my slight build, but I'm thinking it 
>>>>> is more Raynaud's or poor circulation.  I've been a diabetic for 53 years.
>>>> 
>>>>>                     Jamie
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>>>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:45 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cold
>>>> 
>>>>> Land sakes,
>>>>> I tend to get cold easy, is anyone having the same problem.
>>>>> It is about time we get sunshine, where even in a winter dress, I get 
>>>>> cold when the wind blows.
>>>>> Just crazy to me.
>>>>> Dar
>>>> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Apr 30 15:53:22 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (Dar)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 09:53:22 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
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References: <001901d97b59$c9377160$5ba65420$@gmail.com>
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I hope to get the dexcom at the end of this month,  they will show me how to wear it. 
I was told i could wear it on the tummy  
How well does it stay on when you are wearing it!  

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Apr 30, 2023, at 5:51 AM, Milton via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi,
> I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
> after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
> accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
> expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
> to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
> co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
> Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
> 
> Hi everyone
> Hoping all of you are doing great.
> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
> regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
> Thanks everyone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 16:00:01 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 09:00:01 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <1CEF4593-9679-447F-8DCC-B6E246A4706A@mysero.net>
References: <001901d97b59$c9377160$5ba65420$@gmail.com>
 <1CEF4593-9679-447F-8DCC-B6E246A4706A@mysero.net>
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It stays on just fine where I put it. They actually recommend that you put it on the  back of your upper arm but I ripped 2 of them off reaching in the dryer and going through a door way so I put it on my thigh about a hands width above my knee and it works just fine there.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 8:53 AM
To: mota1252 at gmail.com; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dar <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

I hope to get the dexcom at the end of this month,  they will show me how to wear it. 
I was told i could wear it on the tummy How well does it stay on when you are wearing it!  

Dar
Every saint has a past,
Every sinner has a future 


> On Apr 30, 2023, at 5:51 AM, Milton via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi,
> I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
> after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
> accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
> expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
> to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
> co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
> Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
> 
> Hi everyone
> Hoping all of you are doing great.
> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
> regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
> Thanks everyone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Apr 30 16:04:51 2023
From: dmgina at mysero.net (Dar)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:04:51 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <002601d97b7c$d2fd7f50$78f87df0$@gmail.com>
References: <002601d97b7c$d2fd7f50$78f87df0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81D71C46-B3EA-4FB9-946A-012D05F4C0CD@mysero.net>

Oh thanks for sharing!  
Does it catch on the covers!  

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Apr 30, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It stays on just fine where I put it. They actually recommend that you put it on the  back of your upper arm but I ripped 2 of them off reaching in the dryer and going through a door way so I put it on my thigh about a hands width above my knee and it works just fine there.
> 
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: mota1252 at gmail.com; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dar <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
> 
> I hope to get the dexcom at the end of this month,  they will show me how to wear it. 
> I was told i could wear it on the tummy How well does it stay on when you are wearing it!  
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2023, at 5:51 AM, Milton via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi,
>> I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
>> after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
>> accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
>> expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
>> to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
>> co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
>> Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> Hoping all of you are doing great.
>> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
>> regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
>> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
>> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
>> Thanks everyone
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 16:10:13 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 09:10:13 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <81D71C46-B3EA-4FB9-946A-012D05F4C0CD@mysero.net>
References: <002601d97b7c$d2fd7f50$78f87df0$@gmail.com>
 <81D71C46-B3EA-4FB9-946A-012D05F4C0CD@mysero.net>
Message-ID: <002701d97b7e$3f8c8610$bea59230$@gmail.com>

No, it never has.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 9:05 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dar <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Oh thanks for sharing!  
Does it catch on the covers!  

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Apr 30, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Les Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It stays on just fine where I put it. They actually recommend that you put it on the  back of your upper arm but I ripped 2 of them off reaching in the dryer and going through a door way so I put it on my thigh about a hands width above my knee and it works just fine there.
> 
> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
> Ham call K5FPT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: mota1252 at gmail.com; Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dar <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
> 
> I hope to get the dexcom at the end of this month,  they will show me how to wear it. 
> I was told i could wear it on the tummy How well does it stay on when you are wearing it!  
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2023, at 5:51 AM, Milton via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi,
>> I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
>> after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
>> accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
>> expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
>> to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
>> co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
>> Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> Hoping all of you are doing great.
>> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
>> regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
>> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
>> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
>> Thanks everyone
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> com
>> 
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From seanmoore87 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 16:29:27 2023
From: seanmoore87 at gmail.com (Sean Moore)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 12:29:27 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <002701d97b7e$3f8c8610$bea59230$@gmail.com>
References: <002601d97b7c$d2fd7f50$78f87df0$@gmail.com>
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 <002701d97b7e$3f8c8610$bea59230$@gmail.com>
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I have  the libra 2 and  it  like the libra 14 day, has  adhesive.




From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 17:09:07 2023
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 12:09:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
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Dar,

I only wear my Dexcom on my abdomen, but I know others have worn it elsewhere.  I always use the overlay patch to keep it safely adhered to me for the 10 days.  The adhesive would sometimes start to lift up and catch on my undies, so I just always use the patch.  Dexcom supplies them for free through tech support, but they only give you a pack of 10 and seemed to always be on back order or took forever to get to me.  I ordered a pack of 50 from Amazon that work just as well.  


Now that I've said this, I understand the Dexcom 7 comes with an overlay patch with each sensor.  The G6 that I am currently using doesn't.  I'm sure you will start on the G7 as a new user.

				Jamie

				

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Cc: Dar <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

I hope to get the dexcom at the end of this month,  they will show me how to wear it. 
I was told i could wear it on the tummy How well does it stay on when you are wearing it!  

Dar
Every saint has a past,
Every sinner has a future 


> On Apr 30, 2023, at 5:51 AM, Milton via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi,
> I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
> after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
> accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
> expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
> to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
> co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
> Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?
> 
> Hi everyone
> Hoping all of you are doing great.
> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
> regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
> Thanks everyone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 17:38:27 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <002401d97b5d$e9d6e550$bd84aff0$@spectrum.net>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
 <006301d97b28$caa30590$5fe910b0$@gmail.com>
 <002401d97b5d$e9d6e550$bd84aff0$@spectrum.net>
Message-ID: <006601d97b8a$92e3db90$b8ab92b0$@gmail.com>

Yeap, cgm system do this now. It depends on where you are  confortable
placing it.  

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Michael C. via Diabetes-Talk
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Cc: Capelle, Michael C. <capelle.mike at spectrum.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

I like the lebra, it fits on your arm, and is very accurtate.

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Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

I have a Dexcom G7 and it works great, I've only seen the lebre once so I
couldn't even guess about which one is better. 

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 17:45:13 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:45:13 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <006301d97b28$caa30590$5fe910b0$@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
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I have used both systems in past the dexcom g4 an g5 as wel lsa libre 1 nad
libre 2 ove the past 5 years.  Currently using  it. it works just like the
dexcom.just like the dexcom the graphs are not accessible to  the voice over
users. You would have to  use the website to  get all that  info with your
screenreader on your pc or on your  phone.  Both abbot and dexcom have all
that  info on line. The libre  cgm system, is libreview and the dexcom is
dexcom clarity.  Hope that  helps out.  

-----Original Message-----
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Fitzpatrick via Diabetes-Talk
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Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

I have a Dexcom G7 and it works great, I've only seen the lebre once so I
couldn't even guess about which one is better. 

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 17:51:07 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:51:07 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <001901d97b59$c9377160$5ba65420$@gmail.com>
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But Milton if you have to  pay out of pocket.would it not be wise to  have
something like a  libre  especially sicne the libre 3 from a lot fo reportst
aht I have read on line are compareable ot the dexcom. When you cant afford
or cant be covered for a dexcom, cgm then nothing at all. That  would be how
I see it . but all cgm system should be affordable to all whether they have
insurance or not or have to  pay out of pocket for something,  as some
insurance providers categorize  these diabetes management  and supplies and
different categories.something  will be covered and others wont . In
California for example, if your on government insurance  like medicade , and
not on medicare, they will cover  it for type 1 but not for type 2 which
does not make any sense.  

-----Original Message-----
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via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 4:49 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Milton <mota1252 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

Hi,
I have the Dexcom G7 and it is nice. The Dexcom would always be my choice
after trying the Free Libra 2 and finding that the Libra 2 is not as
accurate as the Dexcom. It is also found that the Dexcom is a bit more
expensive if you have to pay for everything out of your pocket so it is best
to have a goode health insurance to help cover the cost. I do have a small
co-pay charge that I pay on the Dexcom.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:51 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

Sent from my iPhone
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 17:53:11 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:53:11 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <5C3EA5CA-6F55-4947-9BEC-DA0DA196641B@gmail.com>
References: <002601d97b7c$d2fd7f50$78f87df0$@gmail.com>
 <81D71C46-B3EA-4FB9-946A-012D05F4C0CD@mysero.net>
 <002701d97b7e$3f8c8610$bea59230$@gmail.com>
 <5C3EA5CA-6F55-4947-9BEC-DA0DA196641B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007001d97b8c$a197ac50$e4c704f0$@gmail.com>

Yeap, I am the same way.i would prefer to have an aforrdable cgm system then
nothing at all.   All of  these cgm systems should be affordable to  all .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sean
Moore via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 9:29 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sean Moore <seanmoore87 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

I have  the libra 2 and  it  like the libra 14 day, has  adhesive.



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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 17:54:17 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 10:54:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <CAE5LqVwCStrZr6K1eGz1aSoyRadG=A0j8zQpmciqaegG9qSv1g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAE5LqVwCStrZr6K1eGz1aSoyRadG=A0j8zQpmciqaegG9qSv1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007101d97b8c$c9432900$5bc97b00$@gmail.com>

Totally agree with you.that is one thing insurance providers are going to
look at cost versus benifit .  

-----Original Message-----
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Scott via Diabetes-Talk
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To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

The biggest question is cost.

One system is a good deal cheaper, but if you go off the assumption you can
have either system....

First thing is they are both good systems.
There isn't a bad option in my opinion.
I've used Freestyle for a while, and it did what it needed too.
I have not used the libre 3 yet, so no clue about it.

I'm currently using the Dexcom G7, and until I can test the Libre 3, I'm
sticking with the dexcom G7.

If you've got spacific questions, about either system just ask and we will
be happy to help.

Both work with voiceover, ETC so everything should be straight forward on
the accessibility frunt.



On 4/29/23, Joel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone
> Hoping all of you are doing great.
> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some 
> thoughts regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using 
> voice over and
> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the
dexcom?
> Thanks everyone
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 19:58:23 2023
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 12:58:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <007101d97b8c$c9432900$5bc97b00$@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
 <CAE5LqVwCStrZr6K1eGz1aSoyRadG=A0j8zQpmciqaegG9qSv1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <007101d97b8c$c9432900$5bc97b00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004901d97b9e$1f3a6470$5daf2d50$@gmail.com>

I have Regence and I don't have to pay out of pocket for my Dexcom system.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 10:54 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

Totally agree with you.that is one thing insurance providers are going to
look at cost versus benifit .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Taylor
Scott via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 11:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Taylor Scott <taylor9209 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

The biggest question is cost.

One system is a good deal cheaper, but if you go off the assumption you can
have either system....

First thing is they are both good systems.
There isn't a bad option in my opinion.
I've used Freestyle for a while, and it did what it needed too.
I have not used the libre 3 yet, so no clue about it.

I'm currently using the Dexcom G7, and until I can test the Libre 3, I'm
sticking with the dexcom G7.

If you've got spacific questions, about either system just ask and we will
be happy to help.

Both work with voiceover, ETC so everything should be straight forward on
the accessibility frunt.



On 4/29/23, Joel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone
> Hoping all of you are doing great.
> I am writing this email because i would please like to read some 
> thoughts regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using 
> voice over and
> type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
> Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the
dexcom?
> Thanks everyone
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 20:18:45 2023
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 16:18:45 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>

Hello Joel,

I use the Dexcom with my Iphone and it works great. Dexcom will be on the
Ohio Zoom platform Saturday with the DAN of Ohio, Maybe you could learn
about the products there. I placed the invitation on the list yesterday and
we would love for you and all the others on the list that is trying to learn
more about CGM's join us.

Thanks,
Walter Mitchell
President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network
(513) 250-2432
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

Purpose:
The Diabetes Action Network Educate, Empower and Inspire blind and visually
impaired people to independently and confidently manage diabetes!



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 12:51 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

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From jdashiel at panix.com  Sun Apr 30 21:07:50 2023
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 17:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>
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 <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e130eadd-39d5-a1c8-2a8-9979e68a335@panix.com>

Last year a friend who is also type 2 and uses one of those cgm's and
perhaps has tried both told me the systems are routinely 8 to 10% low on
readings as compared to traditional glucometers.  He may have got a better
model by now so maybe his accuracy assessment changed for the better with
that new model.  Usually paramedics do the finger stick when coming to
give a diabetic another ride to hospitals unless that too has changed in
the last few years.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.



From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 21:58:16 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 14:58:16 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
 <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a101d97bae$de66df30$9b349d90$@gmail.com>

Thanks walter, I wil try to make that  zoom meeting on dexcom  on may 6 .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Walter
Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 1:19 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

Hello Joel,

I use the Dexcom with my Iphone and it works great. Dexcom will be on the
Ohio Zoom platform Saturday with the DAN of Ohio, Maybe you could learn
about the products there. I placed the invitation on the list yesterday and
we would love for you and all the others on the list that is trying to learn
more about CGM's join us.

Thanks,
Walter Mitchell
President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network
(513) 250-2432
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

Purpose:
The Diabetes Action Network Educate, Empower and Inspire blind and visually
impaired people to independently and confidently manage diabetes!



-----Original Message-----
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Diabetes-Talk
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To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 21:58:39 2023
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gmelconian619 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 14:58:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models,
 or the dexcom?
In-Reply-To: <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>
References: <44AFF86D-786D-420F-BA68-7CD721B0A41C@gmail.com>
 <003901d97ba0$f7402420$e5c06c60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a201d97bae$ec3e92b0$c4bbb810$@gmail.com>

Will you  be recording that  meeting as well.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Walter
Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 1:19 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the
dexcom?

Hello Joel,

I use the Dexcom with my Iphone and it works great. Dexcom will be on the
Ohio Zoom platform Saturday with the DAN of Ohio, Maybe you could learn
about the products there. I placed the invitation on the list yesterday and
we would love for you and all the others on the list that is trying to learn
more about CGM's join us.

Thanks,
Walter Mitchell
President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network
(513) 250-2432
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

Purpose:
The Diabetes Action Network Educate, Empower and Inspire blind and visually
impaired people to independently and confidently manage diabetes!



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joel via
Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 12:51 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Joel <dallastx12a at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Opinions between, the libre models, or the dexcom?

Hi everyone
Hoping all of you are doing great.
I am writing this email because i would please like to read some thoughts
regarding for someone totally blind with an iphone using voice over and
type2 which device might be more accessible and more reliable?
Are either the libre models (which model might work better?) or the dexcom?
Thanks everyone

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From jdashiel at panix.com  Sun Apr 30 22:08:36 2023
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 18:08:36 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cgm discussion ongoing (fwd)
Message-ID: <7fe35b9a-c188-bdcf-52ae-ba31b83a3061@panix.com>

BTW, this friend of mine still has useable vision.


-- 
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
Please use in that order."
Ed Howdershelt 1940.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 17:55:53
From: Peter Youssef <kingtut41 at gmail.com>
To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: Re: cgm discussion ongoing

Yes and yes.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 2:30?PM Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> wrote:

> In diabetes-talk a discussion on cgm devices has been happening for a
> while.  If I remember I think you told me some time ago those devices were
> about 10% low on their readings.  Do you know if that remains true now?  I
> think I may have tossed a cat among the pigeons in that discussion earlier
> and hope I was not wrong to have tossed that cat.
>
>
> -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
> order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
>


-- 
Peter Youssef
2910  South Peck Ave #12
San Pedro, CA 90731


