From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 00:11:06 2019
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (Robert Shelton)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:11:06 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
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Thanks, we'll do that. You and Jamie are right about lows. So far, I've
always been there, and almost always able to bring her around, but I've had
to call 911 twice. That's twice in ten years, so not horrible, but what if
I'm on travel? The tech is there, so why not use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I have been very fortunate and have not had any sensitivity issues with the
Dexcom tape. I do think the Dexcom G6 tape is better than the G5 stuff. If
you call and chat with the support people, they will tell you what kinds of
things you can put on your skin first that will help itching without making
the tape not stick well. 
I agree with Jamie in that she should really give it a try because lows are
nothing to mess with. Good luck and keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 9:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I've finally got my wife to look into the Dexcom CGM system. She cannot
always sense her lows especially if she's asleep. The one issue that she's
worried about is the adhesive. She has severe latex allergies, and her skin
is really sensitive otherwise. So, have any of you who use the Dexcom had
skin issues with the adhesive?

Thanks.



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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 01:45:04 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:45:04 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
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Hi Robert,
 You have a great question about the adhesive. I too have allergies to
adhesives and had the same type of question when I was starting with
the Dexcom. My Diabetes educater suggested that I spray Flownaise, the
sinus allergy spray on the area that I was going to stick the sensor
and let it dry after cleaning with the alcohol swab. I've since
discovered that I can tolerate the tape without having to use the
spray, but that might be helpful for your wife to know. I hope she
ends up getting one, because as with others, my having the Dexcom has
made a real difference.
Warmly,
Doula



From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Jul  1 01:54:25 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 18:54:25 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
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Robert, and today's tech has really gotten so much better than it used to
be. It's not so far behind with its numbers and with the G6, you really can
catch a dropping BG level and stop it before it turns into a scary low. Yes,
you can still go low but it's really quite remarkable. And you don't even
know you're wearing the device until it's time to change the sensor. Go for
it!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 5:11 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

Thanks, we'll do that. You and Jamie are right about lows. So far, I've
always been there, and almost always able to bring her around, but I've had
to call 911 twice. That's twice in ten years, so not horrible, but what if
I'm on travel? The tech is there, so why not use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I have been very fortunate and have not had any sensitivity issues with the
Dexcom tape. I do think the Dexcom G6 tape is better than the G5 stuff. If
you call and chat with the support people, they will tell you what kinds of
things you can put on your skin first that will help itching without making
the tape not stick well. 
I agree with Jamie in that she should really give it a try because lows are
nothing to mess with. Good luck and keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 9:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I've finally got my wife to look into the Dexcom CGM system. She cannot
always sense her lows especially if she's asleep. The one issue that she's
worried about is the adhesive. She has severe latex allergies, and her skin
is really sensitive otherwise. So, have any of you who use the Dexcom had
skin issues with the adhesive?

Thanks.



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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 11:19:59 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 06:19:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
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Yes, the Dexcom warns me when I am 75 or below or if my blood sugar is
anticipated to be 55 or lower within 20 minutes.  I treat my low blood
sugars with glucose tablets, since they get right in to my system.  Even
then, I can still be falling and be what the Dexcom calls "Low and
constant", which is 40 or below.  By then, I am either sitting on the couch
or awake and in bed.  After 4-5 glucose tablets, I know it will go up soon
and try to go back to sleep.  These extreme lows happen to me at night more
than during the day.  Without the Dexcom, I would sleep right through the
low.  If you or anyone else is near her when the urgent low alarm goes off,
you will hear it.  It also keeps getting louder and louder until you tap the
OK button in the Dexcom app.  It the only alarm that cannot be silenced or
turned down in volume, and it is loud.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

Robert, and today's tech has really gotten so much better than it used to
be. It's not so far behind with its numbers and with the G6, you really can
catch a dropping BG level and stop it before it turns into a scary low. Yes,
you can still go low but it's really quite remarkable. And you don't even
know you're wearing the device until it's time to change the sensor. Go for
it!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 5:11 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

Thanks, we'll do that. You and Jamie are right about lows. So far, I've
always been there, and almost always able to bring her around, but I've had
to call 911 twice. That's twice in ten years, so not horrible, but what if
I'm on travel? The tech is there, so why not use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I have been very fortunate and have not had any sensitivity issues with the
Dexcom tape. I do think the Dexcom G6 tape is better than the G5 stuff. If
you call and chat with the support people, they will tell you what kinds of
things you can put on your skin first that will help itching without making
the tape not stick well. 
I agree with Jamie in that she should really give it a try because lows are
nothing to mess with. Good luck and keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 9:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I've finally got my wife to look into the Dexcom CGM system. She cannot
always sense her lows especially if she's asleep. The one issue that she's
worried about is the adhesive. She has severe latex allergies, and her skin
is really sensitive otherwise. So, have any of you who use the Dexcom had
skin issues with the adhesive?

Thanks.



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 14:34:58 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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Again, I don't know who is all on the DAN board now, but perhaps this needs to be a priority discussion at convention and talks of revitalizing the task force again need to be pushed by DAN with the national board.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

There have been discussions in both groups, sort of. But the questions are complex. Defining accessible equipment, how to mandate it when they're private companies, and the fights over statistics which could show how much of a minority we are. It's a real problem because of the profit motive in medicine today. Last year we were starting to look at tying accessible to programs like Medicare and the VA. If you want a contract, it must be accessible, kind of thing. But they've been afraid of Congress so far. The ACB is demanding it but you have to have the complete process, not just a whine. Everybody has passed resolutions at conventions saying we want this, but that rarely causes real legislative action, in my opinion. But I wish they'd make it more important. The ACB is apparently focusing on making the Dexcom receiver accessible because ya know, blind people can't afford iPhones. So they're going after the one company that actually does have an accessible option and skipping the things that don't. It's tough to totally focus on a single product because by the time we get it sorted out, it will be no longer in use. <grin> We did have this discussion in the task force last year. 
Anyway, not much in the way of concrete answers, but just my thoughts at the moment.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
> Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps won't
> have anything for the blind to use,
> if this is correct, then why isn't national nfb or acb working together
> to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying,
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not wish
>> to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us can
>>> afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind of money
>>> every month for the service, I would not use it for controlling my
>>> insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state of undress when
>>> working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, nor would I trust a
>>> stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin pumps on the phone to
>>> assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad place
>>> when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I agree
>>> tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The pump
>>> makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought to do in
>>> the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their products
>>> accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be used as
>>> scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when using and
>>> setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially undressed.  I,
>>> for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t get
>>> me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor the
>>>> most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good at are
>>>> things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of those ways
>>>> better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made accessible
>>>> in a way that blind people could do it without any sighted help. Forms
>>>> can be formatted for online use; websites can be made accessible;
>>>> devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until companies get a fire lit
>>>> under them, AIRA is here, but what's the incentive for companies to
>>>> work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m
>>>> gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't read,
>>>> ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to put in
>>>> a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would make
>>>>> contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would be
>>>>> at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking to some
>>>>> of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic pump users
>>>>> to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, please
>>>>> send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 14:35:29 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:35:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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Not really.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul
Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 4:55 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Hi all,

I'm an outsider here, who has benefitted from so many things being
accessible due  to U S  laws on that matter.

Are there any laws or regulations there, about making cell phone apps
accessible, as that may be an angle as the pump makers move toward
controlling the pump from a cell phone?

Paul from Australia.

-----Original Message-----

Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken these
companies to court is because there is no law mandating accessible medical
equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a building, there are codes
one can readily quote if there's a violation. There just isn't anything for
accessible medical equipment. Of course, the question, why not? Good
question. Hasn't been done.
Veronica


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 14:33:07 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:33:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps won't
> have anything for the blind to use,
> if this is correct, then why isn't national nfb or acb working together
> to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying,
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not wish
>> to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us can
>>> afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind of money
>>> every month for the service, I would not use it for controlling my
>>> insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state of undress when
>>> working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, nor would I trust a
>>> stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin pumps on the phone to
>>> assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad place
>>> when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I agree
>>> tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The pump
>>> makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought to do in
>>> the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their products
>>> accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be used as
>>> scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when using and
>>> setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially undressed.  I,
>>> for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t get
>>> me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor the
>>>> most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good at are
>>>> things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of those ways
>>>> better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made accessible
>>>> in a way that blind people could do it without any sighted help. Forms
>>>> can be formatted for online use; websites can be made accessible;
>>>> devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until companies get a fire lit
>>>> under them, AIRA is here, but what's the incentive for companies to
>>>> work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m
>>>> gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't read,
>>>> ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to put in
>>>> a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would make
>>>>> contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would be
>>>>> at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking to some
>>>>> of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic pump users
>>>>> to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, please
>>>>> send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 14:51:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:51:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
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Have you also trained to use glucagon for her? My husband worked with my
nurse educator years ago to learn how to use it on me in an emergency.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:11 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Robert Shelton <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

Thanks, we'll do that. You and Jamie are right about lows. So far, I've
always been there, and almost always able to bring her around, but I've had
to call 911 twice. That's twice in ten years, so not horrible, but what if
I'm on travel? The tech is there, so why not use it.

-----Original Message-----
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Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I have been very fortunate and have not had any sensitivity issues with the
Dexcom tape. I do think the Dexcom G6 tape is better than the G5 stuff. If
you call and chat with the support people, they will tell you what kinds of
things you can put on your skin first that will help itching without making
the tape not stick well. 
I agree with Jamie in that she should really give it a try because lows are
nothing to mess with. Good luck and keep us posted.
Veronica


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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question

I've finally got my wife to look into the Dexcom CGM system. She cannot
always sense her lows especially if she's asleep. The one issue that she's
worried about is the adhesive. She has severe latex allergies, and her skin
is really sensitive otherwise. So, have any of you who use the Dexcom had
skin issues with the adhesive?

Thanks.



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From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 17:21:21 2019
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (rshelton1 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:21:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
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Nope. That?s actually pretty impressive though. It?s a rather complex process. The fire station is about one minute away. I?ve had to call them twice in 10 years, so I?m OK with that. If we moved out in the country, then I?d need to figure out how to do it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Have you also trained to use glucagon for her? My husband worked with my
> nurse educator years ago to learn how to use it on me in an emergency.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Robert
> Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:11 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Robert Shelton <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
> 
> Thanks, we'll do that. You and Jamie are right about lows. So far, I've
> always been there, and almost always able to bring her around, but I've had
> to call 911 twice. That's twice in ten years, so not horrible, but what if
> I'm on travel? The tech is there, so why not use it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
> 
> I have been very fortunate and have not had any sensitivity issues with the
> Dexcom tape. I do think the Dexcom G6 tape is better than the G5 stuff. If
> you call and chat with the support people, they will tell you what kinds of
> things you can put on your skin first that will help itching without making
> the tape not stick well. 
> I agree with Jamie in that she should really give it a try because lows are
> nothing to mess with. Good luck and keep us posted.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 9:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Robert Shelton
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom Question
> 
> I've finally got my wife to look into the Dexcom CGM system. She cannot
> always sense her lows especially if she's asleep. The one issue that she's
> worried about is the adhesive. She has severe latex allergies, and her skin
> is really sensitive otherwise. So, have any of you who use the Dexcom had
> skin issues with the adhesive?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul  2 18:32:14 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 11:32:14 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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Actually, Bridgit, that's not strictly true. NFB and ACB worked very well together and lifted the quarantine restrictions imposed on guide dog handlers who wanted to travel to Hawaii. I know there's one more but it's escaping my mind right now. That could happen if certain leaders thought the issue was important enough. Frankly, I'd give working together a better chance than that for the NFB really revising that medical task force. Once they've gone down the road of that bill, NFB won't go back. And I can't think of any good reason why organizations shouldn't work together. If they can't, that speaks to ego and being only concerned about getting the credit, and any money that could follow, not the welfare of blind people in general.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:33 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
> Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps won't
> have anything for the blind to use,
> if this is correct, then why isn't national nfb or acb working together
> to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying,
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not wish
>> to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us can
>>> afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind of money
>>> every month for the service, I would not use it for controlling my
>>> insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state of undress when
>>> working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, nor would I trust a
>>> stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin pumps on the phone to
>>> assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad place
>>> when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I agree
>>> tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The pump
>>> makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought to do in
>>> the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their products
>>> accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be used as
>>> scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when using and
>>> setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially undressed.  I,
>>> for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t get
>>> me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor the
>>>> most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good at are
>>>> things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of those ways
>>>> better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made accessible
>>>> in a way that blind people could do it without any sighted help. Forms
>>>> can be formatted for online use; websites can be made accessible;
>>>> devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until companies get a fire lit
>>>> under them, AIRA is here, but what's the incentive for companies to
>>>> work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m
>>>> gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't read,
>>>> ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to put in
>>>> a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would make
>>>>> contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would be
>>>>> at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking to some
>>>>> of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic pump users
>>>>> to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, please
>>>>> send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 20:28:15 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:28:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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NFB and ACB have supported the same issues and legislation through the years, but they have not worked directly together.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Actually, Bridgit, that's not strictly true. NFB and ACB worked very well together and lifted the quarantine restrictions imposed on guide dog handlers who wanted to travel to Hawaii. I know there's one more but it's escaping my mind right now. That could happen if certain leaders thought the issue was important enough. Frankly, I'd give working together a better chance than that for the NFB really revising that medical task force. Once they've gone down the road of that bill, NFB won't go back. And I can't think of any good reason why organizations shouldn't work together. If they can't, that speaks to ego and being only concerned about getting the credit, and any money that could follow, not the welfare of blind people in general.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:33 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps 
> won't have anything for the blind to use, if this is correct, then why 
> isn't national nfb or acb working together to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying, 
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need 
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not 
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is 
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can 
>> add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not 
>> wish to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us 
>>> can afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind 
>>> of money every month for the service, I would not use it for 
>>> controlling my insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state 
>>> of undress when working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, 
>>> nor would I trust a stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin 
>>> pumps on the phone to assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump 
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they 
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad 
>>> place when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I 
>>> agree tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The 
>>> pump makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought 
>>> to do in the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their 
>>> products accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be 
>>> used as scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when 
>>> using and setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially 
>>> undressed.  I, for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna 
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t 
>>> get me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor 
>>>> the most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good 
>>>> at are things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of 
>>>> those ways better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but 
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made 
>>>> accessible in a way that blind people could do it without any 
>>>> sighted help. Forms can be formatted for online use; websites can 
>>>> be made accessible; devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until 
>>>> companies get a fire lit under them, AIRA is here, but what's the 
>>>> incentive for companies to work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no 
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't 
>>>> read, ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to 
>>>> put in a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit 
>>>> (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would 
>>>>> make contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that 
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would 
>>>>> be at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking 
>>>>> to some of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic 
>>>>> pump users to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, 
>>>>> please send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 20:43:13 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 13:43:13 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
In-Reply-To: <004201d53104$784f49b0$68eddd10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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The more organizations work together the better for us to get things working for us as far as accessibility goes in any mainstream products .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Actually, Bridgit, that's not strictly true. NFB and ACB worked very well together and lifted the quarantine restrictions imposed on guide dog handlers who wanted to travel to Hawaii. I know there's one more but it's escaping my mind right now. That could happen if certain leaders thought the issue was important enough. Frankly, I'd give working together a better chance than that for the NFB really revising that medical task force. Once they've gone down the road of that bill, NFB won't go back. And I can't think of any good reason why organizations shouldn't work together. If they can't, that speaks to ego and being only concerned about getting the credit, and any money that could follow, not the welfare of blind people in general.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:33 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps 
> won't have anything for the blind to use, if this is correct, then why 
> isn't national nfb or acb working together to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying, 
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need 
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not 
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is 
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can 
>> add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not 
>> wish to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us 
>>> can afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind 
>>> of money every month for the service, I would not use it for 
>>> controlling my insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state 
>>> of undress when working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, 
>>> nor would I trust a stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin 
>>> pumps on the phone to assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump 
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they 
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad 
>>> place when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I 
>>> agree tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The 
>>> pump makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought 
>>> to do in the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their 
>>> products accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be 
>>> used as scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when 
>>> using and setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially 
>>> undressed.  I, for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna 
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t 
>>> get me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor 
>>>> the most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good 
>>>> at are things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of 
>>>> those ways better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but 
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made 
>>>> accessible in a way that blind people could do it without any 
>>>> sighted help. Forms can be formatted for online use; websites can 
>>>> be made accessible; devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until 
>>>> companies get a fire lit under them, AIRA is here, but what's the 
>>>> incentive for companies to work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no 
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't 
>>>> read, ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to 
>>>> put in a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit 
>>>> (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would 
>>>>> make contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that 
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would 
>>>>> be at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking 
>>>>> to some of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic 
>>>>> pump users to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, 
>>>>> please send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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>>>> --
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From cookcafe at sc.rr.com  Tue Jul  2 21:04:57 2019
From: cookcafe at sc.rr.com (Steve & Shannon Cook)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:04:57 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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It will take someone high up in each organization to become diabetic and need a pump before this is really considered high priority.

Steve 
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 2:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Actually, Bridgit, that's not strictly true. NFB and ACB worked very well together and lifted the quarantine restrictions imposed on guide dog handlers who wanted to travel to Hawaii. I know there's one more but it's escaping my mind right now. That could happen if certain leaders thought the issue was important enough. Frankly, I'd give working together a better chance than that for the NFB really revising that medical task force. Once they've gone down the road of that bill, NFB won't go back. And I can't think of any good reason why organizations shouldn't work together. If they can't, that speaks to ego and being only concerned about getting the credit, and any money that could follow, not the welfare of blind people in general.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:33 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps 
> won't have anything for the blind to use, if this is correct, then why 
> isn't national nfb or acb working together to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying, 
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need 
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not 
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is 
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can 
>> add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not 
>> wish to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us 
>>> can afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind 
>>> of money every month for the service, I would not use it for 
>>> controlling my insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state 
>>> of undress when working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, 
>>> nor would I trust a stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin 
>>> pumps on the phone to assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump 
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they 
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad 
>>> place when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I 
>>> agree tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The 
>>> pump makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought 
>>> to do in the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their 
>>> products accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be 
>>> used as scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when 
>>> using and setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially 
>>> undressed.  I, for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna 
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t 
>>> get me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor 
>>>> the most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good 
>>>> at are things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of 
>>>> those ways better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but 
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made 
>>>> accessible in a way that blind people could do it without any 
>>>> sighted help. Forms can be formatted for online use; websites can 
>>>> be made accessible; devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until 
>>>> companies get a fire lit under them, AIRA is here, but what's the 
>>>> incentive for companies to work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no 
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't 
>>>> read, ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to 
>>>> put in a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit 
>>>> (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would 
>>>>> make contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that 
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would 
>>>>> be at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking 
>>>>> to some of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic 
>>>>> pump users to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, 
>>>>> please send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul  2 21:29:08 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 14:29:08 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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They really did on the guide dog issue. As for other stuff, what a shame. Some things they have worked against each other. That's a shame too.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 1:28 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

NFB and ACB have supported the same issues and legislation through the years, but they have not worked directly together.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Actually, Bridgit, that's not strictly true. NFB and ACB worked very well together and lifted the quarantine restrictions imposed on guide dog handlers who wanted to travel to Hawaii. I know there's one more but it's escaping my mind right now. That could happen if certain leaders thought the issue was important enough. Frankly, I'd give working together a better chance than that for the NFB really revising that medical task force. Once they've gone down the road of that bill, NFB won't go back. And I can't think of any good reason why organizations shouldn't work together. If they can't, that speaks to ego and being only concerned about getting the credit, and any money that could follow, not the welfare of blind people in general.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:33 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps 
> won't have anything for the blind to use, if this is correct, then why 
> isn't national nfb or acb working together to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying, 
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need 
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not 
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is 
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can 
>> add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not 
>> wish to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us 
>>> can afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind 
>>> of money every month for the service, I would not use it for 
>>> controlling my insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state 
>>> of undress when working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, 
>>> nor would I trust a stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin 
>>> pumps on the phone to assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump 
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they 
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad 
>>> place when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I 
>>> agree tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The 
>>> pump makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought 
>>> to do in the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their 
>>> products accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be 
>>> used as scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when 
>>> using and setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially 
>>> undressed.  I, for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna 
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t 
>>> get me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor 
>>>> the most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good 
>>>> at are things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of 
>>>> those ways better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but 
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made 
>>>> accessible in a way that blind people could do it without any 
>>>> sighted help. Forms can be formatted for online use; websites can 
>>>> be made accessible; devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until 
>>>> companies get a fire lit under them, AIRA is here, but what's the 
>>>> incentive for companies to work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no 
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't 
>>>> read, ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to 
>>>> put in a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit 
>>>> (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would 
>>>>> make contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that 
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would 
>>>>> be at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking 
>>>>> to some of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic 
>>>>> pump users to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, 
>>>>> please send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 21:29:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:29:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions
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Gary,

I completely agree; I'm just stating the reality of the situation as it stands right now.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 3:43 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

The more organizations work together the better for us to get things working for us as far as accessibility goes in any mainstream products .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Actually, Bridgit, that's not strictly true. NFB and ACB worked very well together and lifted the quarantine restrictions imposed on guide dog handlers who wanted to travel to Hawaii. I know there's one more but it's escaping my mind right now. That could happen if certain leaders thought the issue was important enough. Frankly, I'd give working together a better chance than that for the NFB really revising that medical task force. Once they've gone down the road of that bill, NFB won't go back. And I can't think of any good reason why organizations shouldn't work together. If they can't, that speaks to ego and being only concerned about getting the credit, and any money that could follow, not the welfare of blind people in general.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:33 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

Dar,

Sorry, no way is it going to happen that NFB and ACB work together. Will never, ever happen. And to some extent, with good reason, but we have yet to work together on any issue since the split in the 50s.

That being said, if enough of us take our concerns to national, maybe, just maybe they will listen and we will see some forward movement on this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

How do we get it done?
This is where I know both organizations would work together.
There are as many diabetics in the acb as well as nfb.
I just felt if we had proof that something was written companies won't help becaue of ira then national presidents would start to step on ears.
We could share how a voice chip could be added to the pumps and this would help out allot.
Coming off the shelf.
Just my thoughts.
As we say the game is over

Original message:
> Dar, very good question. Unfortunately, the reason nobody has taken 
> these companies to court is because there is no law mandating 
> accessible medical equipment. If there's a problem with a web site, a 
> building, there are codes one can readily quote if there's a violation.
> There just isn't anything for accessible medical equipment. Of course, 
> the question, why not? Good question. Hasn't been done.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:17 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

> My question again is this,
> After you get done with the pumps you have, I read that new pumps 
> won't have anything for the blind to use, if this is correct, then why 
> isn't national nfb or acb working together to take companies to court.
> I also want to have something in email from a company that is saying, 
> Since you have ira you don't need us to put anything on a pump for the blind.
> I will keep reading.

> Original message:
>> Dar, it's not separate but equal. As someone once said to me, we need 
>> to use every tool in the toolbox, and I would agree that if I am not 
>> dressed and using a pump I don't want to be on camera. But nothing is 
>> exclusive. For some, for now that may be the only choice.

>> Jeanette

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Dar via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:45 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Dar
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>> From what you are saying is no new person can get a pump if they are
>> blind   If I am correct, this is what we should fight for, not worry
>> what ira does or doesn?t do.

>> Always remember with nfb you start with $21 for 30 minutes and can 
>> add
>> 50 minutes more if you wish.
>> I am pleased it is here and I make the choice to use it

>> I would love to know the companies who know about ira and wish not 
>> wish to help diabetics

>> I would like to know why Mark from nfb is not taking them to court

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>>> On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Bern,

>>> You make a good point in that AIRA is something that not all of us 
>>> can afford. Even if I could see myself clear of spending that kind 
>>> of money every month for the service, I would not use it for 
>>> controlling my insulin pump functions. Yes, I too am in a half state 
>>> of undress when working on my pump and aside from modesty issues, 
>>> nor would I trust a stranger unfamiliar with the workings of insulin 
>>> pumps on the phone to assist me in altering any settings of any type on my pump.

>>> Where you and I disagree is that the day has come that pump 
>>> manufacturers ?must? make adaptations of some type on the pumps they 
>>> currently have on the market. We will all be in an extreme, bad 
>>> place when next our warrantees are up. Something needs to be done pronto!

>>> Eileen

>>> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:50 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>> For those of you who use AIRA, I?m leaving all this up to your discretion.

>>> As Sandy and Bridget both indicate, AIRA is just another tool.  I 
>>> agree tht as long as we have things like AIRA, and ?Be My Eyes,? The 
>>> pump makers out there won?t be forced to do what they really ought 
>>> to do in the first place.  It?s not like others haven?t made their 
>>> products accessible.  Things like AIRA and Be My Eyes can simply be 
>>> used as scapegoats.  Then, as Veronica has also indicated, when 
>>> using and setting up the pump, most of us are at least partially 
>>> undressed.  I, for one, am not into posing nude for any camera.

>>> Quite frankly, AIRA is cost-prohibitive for our family.  Not gonna 
>>> happen here.  I?ll let them speak to my seminar.  But, they own?t 
>>> get me to purchase it.  No can do.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Yep.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Well said, my friend! Aira is a tool, but it?s neither the best nor 
>>>> the most effective tool we could have. Most of the things it?s good 
>>>> at are things that could be accomplished in other ways, many of 
>>>> those ways better than this rather expensive, not-always-effective service.

>>>> Sandi


>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>>>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:32 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> AIRA isn't the best way to make us independent. It's 24/7 help, but 
>>>> it's still sighted help for things that mostly could be made 
>>>> accessible in a way that blind people could do it without any 
>>>> sighted help. Forms can be formatted for online use; websites can 
>>>> be made accessible; devices can be accessible, etc. Sure, until 
>>>> companies get a fire lit under them, AIRA is here, but what's the 
>>>> incentive for companies to work on accessibility when services like AIRA exist? It's a catch 22.
>>>> We need accessibility now, but now that we have AIRA, companies no 
>>>> longer think they need to think about accessibility.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:05 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AIRA & pump questions

>>>> Joyce,
>>>> I won't be at convention,
>>>> Mike Henson wrote to me on ira list sharing that what we can't 
>>>> read, ira is there for us, and does help us stay mobile in anything we want to do.
>>>> At no time does it make us less independent, if anything it makes us more.
>>>> I do hope and know we will do our best to try to et companies to 
>>>> put in a chip for talking meeters.
>>>> If they can do it for devices then what is one more device.
>>>> Do let us know how the conversation works out.
>>>> Thanks again,

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When this topic came up there seemed to be some chatter along with

>>>> So... In my opinion, it's not the best tool to give us independence.
>>>> True independence would be possible if companies gave a shit 
>>>> (excuse

>>>> BTW, this is not a negative comment on AIRA but on society in general.

>>>> Bridgitmy French) and worked to make products and devices accessible.
>>>> And now with AIRA, it's not as likely they will.
>>>>> opinions regarding the use of AIRA with a pump.  I said I would 
>>>>> make contact with AIRA and I did.



>>>>> I contacted Glenn Takemoto, , Account Executive andhe told me that 
>>>>> there has been some mention of insulin pumps.  He told me he would 
>>>>> be at Convention in Vegas and he would be interested in speaking 
>>>>> to some of the people who have been working for us blind Diabetic 
>>>>> pump users to get insulin pumps accessible.



>>>>> If anyone is interested in making contact while at Convention, 
>>>>> please send me a note off list and I will send you my conversation with him.



>>>>> Joyce



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From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Jul  3 01:02:46 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 21:02:46 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas (fwd)
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022102320.12568@panix1.panix.com>



-- 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 14:24:36
From: Sugar Lopez via Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark at acbradio.org>
To: CND List <cookinginthedark at acbradio.org>
Cc: Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas

recipe for diabetic tostadas

from: www.diabetesfoodhub.org



Budget-Friendly Chicken Tostadas - Diabetes Food Hub

https://www.diabetesfoodhub.org/recipes/budget-friendly-chicken-tostadas.htm
l



These chicken tostadas are a delicious dish that won't break the bank. Save
time by buying a rotisserie chicken, which you can often find on sale at a
warehouse club.



   Prep time: 10 min

  Servings: 4 Servings

  Serving size: 1 tostada



Nutrition Facts

Amount per serving

Calories

280

Total Fat 10g, Saturated Fat 2.5g,

Cholesterol 65mg, Sodium 230mg, Total Carbohydrate 20g, Dietary Fiber 4g,
Total Sugars 1g,

Protein 27g, Potassium 460mg,



Ingredients

US Metric



cooked chicken breast

(shredded)2 cup

*Sugar's Note: I buy the rotisserie Chicken from Cosco then shred it when I
get home.

What I don't use I put in a tauppaware container and reuse it in salads,
sandwiches or in wraps later.



Salsa of your choice

3 teaspoons

*Sugar's Note, I rarely use that much salsa. I like to just add about 1
teaspoon just to taste.



canned pinto beans

(rinsed and drained)1/2 cup

*Sugar's Note: Another option instead of pinto beans is black beans

cheddar cheese

(reduced-fat, shredded)4 tbsp



4 tostada shells

Sugar's Note: You can purchase the shells at your local market.



avocado

(mashed)1/2



lettuce

(shredded)1 cup

Directions

1. Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.

2. In a small bowl, mix together the chicken, salsa, and pinto beans.

3. Place the tostada shells on a baking sheet. Top each tostada shell with
1/2 cup chicken-bean mixture and 1 Tbsp. cheese.

4.  Bake for 5 minutes or until the cheese is melted.

5. Remove the tostadas from the oven and top each tostada with a spoonful of
mashed avocado and 1/4 cup lettuce.



Sugar's Note:

You can also just layer the toppings before then place in your oven or your
microwave.

You just need the cheese to melt a little and the beans to get warm.

You can do with out the chicken all together, if you want this to be
meatless.

Maybe adding a little sour cream on top.



Enjoy!

Sugar







"Give me faith and strength when I reside in shadows and may the negativity
of others leave me unaffected as your Sun sets in the west. Keep me and mine
safe as the Moon rules the sky"



-Sugar Lopez

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey



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From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Jul  3 01:10:05 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 21:10:05 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] acu-chek guide paired with Moto g7 phone
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022108140.12568@panix1.panix.com>

That much is done.  So what software to get from the play store can work
with this hardware combination?



--




From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul  3 01:50:21 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:50:21 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022102320.12568@panix1.panix.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022102320.12568@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <000601d53141$acc47890$064d69b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hmmm, can't help myself. What is a diabetic tostada? Do they produce sugar?
Love it. Kindred spirits in the food world.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 6:03 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas (fwd)



-- 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 14:24:36
From: Sugar Lopez via Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark at acbradio.org>
To: CND List <cookinginthedark at acbradio.org>
Cc: Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas

recipe for diabetic tostadas

from: www.diabetesfoodhub.org



Budget-Friendly Chicken Tostadas - Diabetes Food Hub

https://www.diabetesfoodhub.org/recipes/budget-friendly-chicken-tostadas.htm
l



These chicken tostadas are a delicious dish that won't break the bank. Save
time by buying a rotisserie chicken, which you can often find on sale at a
warehouse club.



   Prep time: 10 min

  Servings: 4 Servings

  Serving size: 1 tostada



Nutrition Facts

Amount per serving

Calories

280

Total Fat 10g, Saturated Fat 2.5g,

Cholesterol 65mg, Sodium 230mg, Total Carbohydrate 20g, Dietary Fiber 4g,
Total Sugars 1g,

Protein 27g, Potassium 460mg,



Ingredients

US Metric



cooked chicken breast

(shredded)2 cup

*Sugar's Note: I buy the rotisserie Chicken from Cosco then shred it when I
get home.

What I don't use I put in a tauppaware container and reuse it in salads,
sandwiches or in wraps later.



Salsa of your choice

3 teaspoons

*Sugar's Note, I rarely use that much salsa. I like to just add about 1
teaspoon just to taste.



canned pinto beans

(rinsed and drained)1/2 cup

*Sugar's Note: Another option instead of pinto beans is black beans

cheddar cheese

(reduced-fat, shredded)4 tbsp



4 tostada shells

Sugar's Note: You can purchase the shells at your local market.



avocado

(mashed)1/2



lettuce

(shredded)1 cup

Directions

1. Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.

2. In a small bowl, mix together the chicken, salsa, and pinto beans.

3. Place the tostada shells on a baking sheet. Top each tostada shell with
1/2 cup chicken-bean mixture and 1 Tbsp. cheese.

4.  Bake for 5 minutes or until the cheese is melted.

5. Remove the tostadas from the oven and top each tostada with a spoonful of
mashed avocado and 1/4 cup lettuce.



Sugar's Note:

You can also just layer the toppings before then place in your oven or your
microwave.

You just need the cheese to melt a little and the beans to get warm.

You can do with out the chicken all together, if you want this to be
meatless.

Maybe adding a little sour cream on top.



Enjoy!

Sugar







"Give me faith and strength when I reside in shadows and may the negativity
of others leave me unaffected as your Sun sets in the west. Keep me and mine
safe as the Moon rules the sky"



-Sugar Lopez

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey



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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul  3 01:51:06 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:51:06 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] acu-chek guide paired with Moto g7 phone
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022108140.12568@panix1.panix.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022108140.12568@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <000801d53141$c7563a90$5602afb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I'm not sure I understand this post. Can you clarify?
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 6:10 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] acu-chek guide paired with Moto g7 phone

That much is done.  So what software to get from the play store can work
with this hardware combination?



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 03:29:08 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 22:29:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <000601d53141$acc47890$064d69b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907022102320.12568@panix1.panix.com>
	<000601d53141$acc47890$064d69b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <0b2e01d5314f$79c68b50$6d53a1f0$@gmail.com>

LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas (fwd)

Hmmm, can't help myself. What is a diabetic tostada? Do they produce sugar?
Love it. Kindred spirits in the food world.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 6:03 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas (fwd)



-- 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 14:24:36
From: Sugar Lopez via Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark at acbradio.org>
To: CND List <cookinginthedark at acbradio.org>
Cc: Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [CnD] TnT recipe for diabetic tostadas

recipe for diabetic tostadas

from: www.diabetesfoodhub.org



Budget-Friendly Chicken Tostadas - Diabetes Food Hub

https://www.diabetesfoodhub.org/recipes/budget-friendly-chicken-tostadas.htm
l



These chicken tostadas are a delicious dish that won't break the bank. Save
time by buying a rotisserie chicken, which you can often find on sale at a
warehouse club.



   Prep time: 10 min

  Servings: 4 Servings

  Serving size: 1 tostada



Nutrition Facts

Amount per serving

Calories

280

Total Fat 10g, Saturated Fat 2.5g,

Cholesterol 65mg, Sodium 230mg, Total Carbohydrate 20g, Dietary Fiber 4g,
Total Sugars 1g,

Protein 27g, Potassium 460mg,



Ingredients

US Metric



cooked chicken breast

(shredded)2 cup

*Sugar's Note: I buy the rotisserie Chicken from Cosco then shred it when I
get home.

What I don't use I put in a tauppaware container and reuse it in salads,
sandwiches or in wraps later.



Salsa of your choice

3 teaspoons

*Sugar's Note, I rarely use that much salsa. I like to just add about 1
teaspoon just to taste.



canned pinto beans

(rinsed and drained)1/2 cup

*Sugar's Note: Another option instead of pinto beans is black beans

cheddar cheese

(reduced-fat, shredded)4 tbsp



4 tostada shells

Sugar's Note: You can purchase the shells at your local market.



avocado

(mashed)1/2



lettuce

(shredded)1 cup

Directions

1. Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.

2. In a small bowl, mix together the chicken, salsa, and pinto beans.

3. Place the tostada shells on a baking sheet. Top each tostada shell with
1/2 cup chicken-bean mixture and 1 Tbsp. cheese.

4.  Bake for 5 minutes or until the cheese is melted.

5. Remove the tostadas from the oven and top each tostada with a spoonful of
mashed avocado and 1/4 cup lettuce.



Sugar's Note:

You can also just layer the toppings before then place in your oven or your
microwave.

You just need the cheese to melt a little and the beans to get warm.

You can do with out the chicken all together, if you want this to be
meatless.

Maybe adding a little sour cream on top.



Enjoy!

Sugar







"Give me faith and strength when I reside in shadows and may the negativity
of others leave me unaffected as your Sun sets in the west. Keep me and mine
safe as the Moon rules the sky"



-Sugar Lopez

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey



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From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Jul  3 11:19:05 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 07:19:05 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] android clarification
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1907030712050.14202@panix1.panix.com>

When I search for acu-chek guide connect app in google playstore, the app
does not show up as being available and all Roche has is some cgm app
that's pre-release and all testing spots are taken for that app.
Many other glucose testing apps show up in search though.
So conclusion is the specific app is no longer available and any of the
other apps likely will be able to collect readings from my meter.  In a
way, this is good news.
So what I would like to know is which of these apps will also work with
talkback running since it's accessible.


--




From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  3 14:09:42 2019
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 14:09:42 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
Message-ID: <BN6PR05MB2929AD474B42166A48C0CE84A0FB0@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hello Listers,

It?s been awhile. I just switched insurance as of  July 1. I am finally able to get the Dexcom G6 system and it is covered at 100%. I am so happy for this discovery.

My question for G6 users are there any glaring accessibility issues in the app. I know when I was using the G5 system 3 years ago the graph at the bottom of the screen was not read , Icons had funny labels all over the place within the app. I?m pretty tech savvy so minor bugs don?t bother me to much.

Thanks for your help and answers.

Ed

From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul  3 16:05:30 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:05:30 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR05MB2929AD474B42166A48C0CE84A0FB0@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB2929AD474B42166A48C0CE84A0FB0@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <003c01d531b9$235dfa90$6a19efb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi Ed.
The graph at the bottom of the screen still isn't accessible to us. Sure would be nice if they'd release this info as raw data, especially since it starts that way. Many of us have been asking for years for this.
But the app is great. Way way better than the G5 app. The only tiny little thing I've found is that when you go into settings to stop a sensor, once you stop it, the app leaves you in that screen and you have to find the home button and tap it so you can continue with the process of inserting the new one. But I think the G6 is more accurate, easier to insert and boy is the app improved.
I hope you like it as much as I do. Any questions come up, ask away. <grin> Have fun.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 7:10 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6

Hello Listers,

It?s been awhile. I just switched insurance as of  July 1. I am finally able to get the Dexcom G6 system and it is covered at 100%. I am so happy for this discovery.

My question for G6 users are there any glaring accessibility issues in the app. I know when I was using the G5 system 3 years ago the graph at the bottom of the screen was not read , Icons had funny labels all over the place within the app. I?m pretty tech savvy so minor bugs don?t bother me to much.

Thanks for your help and answers.

Ed
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  3 16:39:45 2019
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:39:45 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
In-Reply-To: <003c01d531b9$235dfa90$6a19efb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB2929AD474B42166A48C0CE84A0FB0@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
	<003c01d531b9$235dfa90$6a19efb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <BN6PR05MB2929C1B127DC8D25B124AE39A0FB0@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hey Veronica,

I am excited to see what improvements are there. I have been using the Libre system with my iPhone. It works well enough but DexCom is really the Cadillac of CGM systems in my eyes.

Has the DexCom Clarity app gotten any better with VoiceOver? I remember needing to import the PDFs into KNFB Reader or even Seeing Ai to get readings at first. Can we finally read the charts and logs in the app?

Thanks,

Ed Worrell  

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed.
> The graph at the bottom of the screen still isn't accessible to us. Sure would be nice if they'd release this info as raw data, especially since it starts that way. Many of us have been asking for years for this.
> But the app is great. Way way better than the G5 app. The only tiny little thing I've found is that when you go into settings to stop a sensor, once you stop it, the app leaves you in that screen and you have to find the home button and tap it so you can continue with the process of inserting the new one. But I think the G6 is more accurate, easier to insert and boy is the app improved.
> I hope you like it as much as I do. Any questions come up, ask away. <grin> Have fun.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 7:10 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: ed worrell
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> It?s been awhile. I just switched insurance as of  July 1. I am finally able to get the Dexcom G6 system and it is covered at 100%. I am so happy for this discovery.
> 
> My question for G6 users are there any glaring accessibility issues in the app. I know when I was using the G5 system 3 years ago the graph at the bottom of the screen was not read , Icons had funny labels all over the place within the app. I?m pretty tech savvy so minor bugs don?t bother me to much.
> 
> Thanks for your help and answers.
> 
> Ed
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  3 17:51:26 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:51:26 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
In-Reply-To: <003c01d531b9$235dfa90$6a19efb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <BN6PR05MB2929AD474B42166A48C0CE84A0FB0@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
	<003c01d531b9$235dfa90$6a19efb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000901d531c7$f0612950$d1237bf0$@gmail.com>

Veronica , I am happy that you like the g6.but I cant find any on the online sites  that I can grab for a reasonable price .so for the time  being I will stick with the  g5 an the g5 sensors and  the g 5 app.at least the clarity app has improved and gives me the info that I really need that the graph wont give us.   At least the dexcom g5 solution keeps me alive from the insurance  company that I have  trying to kill me for not providing me with the  dexcom and making me pay out of pocket for it and so that is why I have resorted to online sites for the dexcom .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:06 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6

Hi Ed.
The graph at the bottom of the screen still isn't accessible to us. Sure would be nice if they'd release this info as raw data, especially since it starts that way. Many of us have been asking for years for this.
But the app is great. Way way better than the G5 app. The only tiny little thing I've found is that when you go into settings to stop a sensor, once you stop it, the app leaves you in that screen and you have to find the home button and tap it so you can continue with the process of inserting the new one. But I think the G6 is more accurate, easier to insert and boy is the app improved.
I hope you like it as much as I do. Any questions come up, ask away. <grin> Have fun.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 7:10 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6

Hello Listers,

It?s been awhile. I just switched insurance as of  July 1. I am finally able to get the Dexcom G6 system and it is covered at 100%. I am so happy for this discovery.

My question for G6 users are there any glaring accessibility issues in the app. I know when I was using the G5 system 3 years ago the graph at the bottom of the screen was not read , Icons had funny labels all over the place within the app. I?m pretty tech savvy so minor bugs don?t bother me to much.

Thanks for your help and answers.

Ed
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Jul  4 01:50:46 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:50:46 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
Message-ID: <247608b3.7b1b.49eb.972b.6fb0eb8c24d8@samobile.net>

What insurance did you go to?
ontana is so limited.
Glad it is working for you.

Original message:
> Hello Listers,

> It?s been awhile. I just switched insurance as of  July 1. I am finally 
> able to get the Dexcom G6 system and it is covered at 100%. I am so 
> happy for this discovery.

> My question for G6 users are there any glaring accessibility issues in 
> the app. I know when I was using the G5 system 3 years ago the graph at 
> the bottom of the screen was not read , Icons had funny labels all over 
> the place within the app. I?m pretty tech savvy so minor bugs don?t 
> bother me to much.

> Thanks for your help and answers.

> Ed
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Jul  4 19:05:28 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 15:05:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
Message-ID: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could 
take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices
remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a 
statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor
transmitters. In a letter 
to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health
implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe 
warned
about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within
your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial
number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or
diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) 
?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) 
list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Jul  4 21:28:39 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 14:28:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
In-Reply-To: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>
References: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>
Message-ID: <007501d532af$7272f620$5758e260$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

In a way, this one really surprises me. I was in Las Vegas in 2011 when across town, at a different conference, someone demonstrated hacking into a Minimed pump, as it was called then. That's one of the things that made them stop talking to James whatever his name was, who made a talking remote for one of their pumps. 
So I really can't figure out why they're suddenly doing this because this is really old information. And if your particular pump doesn't use a remote, how is someone going to get in? And mind you, there is no evidence of this actually happening anywhere. So as far as I'm concerned, they're panicking about the wrong person getting in and not bothering to let many other people in at all. That's old news too. I remember them talking about making an insulin pump we could use back in the nineties. 
But boy, crossing my fingers that you guys don't get your only option snatched out from under you.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 12:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM




From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Jul  4 23:11:34 2019
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 19:11:34 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?
Message-ID: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>

I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I was in
a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the team that
didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were offered to try
the pump.

 

I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape around
6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I remember
going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to go in they
pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.

 

I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too many
insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came out.

 

 

 

The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  All we
need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us blind folks.

 

Joyce







From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 01:44:16 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 20:44:16 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
In-Reply-To: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>
References: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E02A5ED-2393-455D-A8B2-021D2ABE59F8@gmail.com>

When I was in college in 1984, I participated in a diabetic support group. One of the participants in the group had that same pump. It looked like what I would call a Walkman, which only could be used with a cassette tape. I remember hearing it beep every minute or so throughout the meeting. I always wondered whatever happened to her. I was only 18 at the time, and I remember thinking that I would not want to wear something that big that beeped all of the time!

    Jamie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 6:11 PM, blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I was in
> a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the team that
> didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were offered to try
> the pump.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape around
> 6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I remember
> going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to go in they
> pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.
> 
> 
> 
> I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too many
> insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  All we
> need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us blind folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Joyce
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Jul  5 02:12:14 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 22:12:14 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
In-Reply-To: <007501d532af$7272f620$5758e260$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>
	<007501d532af$7272f620$5758e260$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <B7B32AE018A24131964CFCE7C4D0BC9E@eileen>

I?m telling you we are all, each and every one of us no matter if using a Medtronic or other brand insulin pump on very treacherous ground with there being not a single other pump we can be switched over to. What all these companies get away with is horrible not making features available to those of us who are blind diabetics.

The person who called me to tell me about this article is helping her blind spouse to try and get a new insulin pump. His is a J&J pump that will be out of warrantee very soon and J&J isn?t making them any more either. They referred him to Medtronic and its up in the air right now if Medtronic will come through for them or not.

Its horrible.

Eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:28 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

In a way, this one really surprises me. I was in Las Vegas in 2011 when across town, at a different conference, someone demonstrated hacking into a Minimed pump, as it was called then. That's one of the things that made them stop talking to James whatever his name was, who made a talking remote for one of their pumps. 
So I really can't figure out why they're suddenly doing this because this is really old information. And if your particular pump doesn't use a remote, how is someone going to get in? And mind you, there is no evidence of this actually happening anywhere. So as far as I'm concerned, they're panicking about the wrong person getting in and not bothering to let many other people in at all. That's old news too. I remember them talking about making an insulin pump we could use back in the nineties. 
But boy, crossing my fingers that you guys don't get your only option snatched out from under you.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 12:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 02:18:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 21:18:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
In-Reply-To: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>
References: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>
Message-ID: <0e2901d532d7$f8019b70$e804d250$@gmail.com>

What's the credibility of this article? Yeah, this has been a discussion for years. Like a decade or more. So, why the immediate concern now? And if Medtronic were recalling meters, wouldn't patients have been notified? BTW, I do not see the 530G listed in this article, which is what I have.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
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BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 02:16:11 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 21:16:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
In-Reply-To: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>
References: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0e2801d532d7$9d9bd290$d8d377b0$@gmail.com>

Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic for
33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters long
before then.

Bridgit

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blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I was in
a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the team that
didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were offered to try
the pump.

 

I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape around
6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I remember
going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to go in they
pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.

 

I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too many
insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came out.

 

 

 

The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  All we
need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us blind folks.

 

Joyce





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 02:24:27 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 21:24:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
In-Reply-To: <B7B32AE018A24131964CFCE7C4D0BC9E@eileen>
References: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>	<007501d532af$7272f620$5758e260$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<B7B32AE018A24131964CFCE7C4D0BC9E@eileen>
Message-ID: <0e3001d532d8$c5519300$4ff4b900$@gmail.com>

I don't disagree with you at all, but how is this different than every other device, program, software, etc. that's not accessible, and companies are not trying to make accessible? And people with other medical conditions also run into similar problems with accessibility in medical devices. It's the problem we come up against every day as blind people with all sorts of things. For every step forward we make, we seem to keep 20 more in place. I've been blind for 16 years now, and I see the exact same discussion happen every year about all manner of accessibility issues. So what finally gives?

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:12 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

I?m telling you we are all, each and every one of us no matter if using a Medtronic or other brand insulin pump on very treacherous ground with there being not a single other pump we can be switched over to. What all these companies get away with is horrible not making features available to those of us who are blind diabetics.

The person who called me to tell me about this article is helping her blind spouse to try and get a new insulin pump. His is a J&J pump that will be out of warrantee very soon and J&J isn?t making them any more either. They referred him to Medtronic and its up in the air right now if Medtronic will come through for them or not.

Its horrible.

Eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:28 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

In a way, this one really surprises me. I was in Las Vegas in 2011 when across town, at a different conference, someone demonstrated hacking into a Minimed pump, as it was called then. That's one of the things that made them stop talking to James whatever his name was, who made a talking remote for one of their pumps. 
So I really can't figure out why they're suddenly doing this because this is really old information. And if your particular pump doesn't use a remote, how is someone going to get in? And mind you, there is no evidence of this actually happening anywhere. So as far as I'm concerned, they're panicking about the wrong person getting in and not bothering to let many other people in at all. That's old news too. I remember them talking about making an insulin pump we could use back in the nineties. 
But boy, crossing my fingers that you guys don't get your only option snatched out from under you.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 12:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM


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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 10:56:05 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 05:56:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
In-Reply-To: <0e2801d532d7$9d9bd290$d8d377b0$@gmail.com>
References: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>
	<0e2801d532d7$9d9bd290$d8d377b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32A0822B-9175-4615-90BC-1FC6F86B64DD@gmail.com>

All I know is that I was a sophomore in college in 1984 when I started using one of the very first blood glucose meters. I started having vision problems in 1986 and was totally blind by 1987. I think it was in 1987 that I was introduced to the very first talking meter which was that Accu Chek one that was in a huge c carrying case. The meter it was on the left with a guide to help you get the blood on the strip. You would carry all of your supplies inside the case. It was big and bulky, but it worked!


What Joy and I were talking about was the very first insulin pump.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic for
> 33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters long
> before then.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?
> 
> I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I was in
> a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the team that
> didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were offered to try
> the pump.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape around
> 6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I remember
> going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to go in they
> pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.
> 
> 
> 
> I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too many
> insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  All we
> need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us blind folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Joyce
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Jul  5 13:07:49 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 09:07:49 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
In-Reply-To: <0e3001d532d8$c5519300$4ff4b900$@gmail.com>
References: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>	<007501d532af$7272f620$5758e260$@laurelcreekmusic.com><B7B32AE018A24131964CFCE7C4D0BC9E@eileen>
	<0e3001d532d8$c5519300$4ff4b900$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D518C18C601B47E3AC7D8D4BE6E207B3@eileen>

This is very different from other devices in that it has life-threatening consequences for us if there is not at minimum a workable option for us. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

I don't disagree with you at all, but how is this different than every other device, program, software, etc. that's not accessible, and companies are not trying to make accessible? And people with other medical conditions also run into similar problems with accessibility in medical devices. It's the problem we come up against every day as blind people with all sorts of things. For every step forward we make, we seem to keep 20 more in place. I've been blind for 16 years now, and I see the exact same discussion happen every year about all manner of accessibility issues. So what finally gives?

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:12 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

I?m telling you we are all, each and every one of us no matter if using a Medtronic or other brand insulin pump on very treacherous ground with there being not a single other pump we can be switched over to. What all these companies get away with is horrible not making features available to those of us who are blind diabetics.

The person who called me to tell me about this article is helping her blind spouse to try and get a new insulin pump. His is a J&J pump that will be out of warrantee very soon and J&J isn?t making them any more either. They referred him to Medtronic and its up in the air right now if Medtronic will come through for them or not.

Its horrible.

Eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:28 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

In a way, this one really surprises me. I was in Las Vegas in 2011 when across town, at a different conference, someone demonstrated hacking into a Minimed pump, as it was called then. That's one of the things that made them stop talking to James whatever his name was, who made a talking remote for one of their pumps. 
So I really can't figure out why they're suddenly doing this because this is really old information. And if your particular pump doesn't use a remote, how is someone going to get in? And mind you, there is no evidence of this actually happening anywhere. So as far as I'm concerned, they're panicking about the wrong person getting in and not bothering to let many other people in at all. That's old news too. I remember them talking about making an insulin pump we could use back in the nineties. 
But boy, crossing my fingers that you guys don't get your only option snatched out from under you.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 12:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Jul  5 13:09:23 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 09:09:23 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
In-Reply-To: <0e2901d532d7$f8019b70$e804d250$@gmail.com>
References: <DF4FF5C078C04256A8B417D2119DAFB6@eileen>
	<0e2901d532d7$f8019b70$e804d250$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50B06C90ED014554BF791A2504B284E0@eileen>

You you know what, you can go onto any search engine of your choosing and type in Medtronic insulin pump recall. Besides this, as I said in a previous message, there was a write up about in yesterday?s local news paper.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:18 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

What's the credibility of this article? Yeah, this has been a discussion for years. Like a decade or more. So, why the immediate concern now? And if Medtronic were recalling meters, wouldn't patients have been notified? BTW, I do not see the 530G listed in this article, which is what I have.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM


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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  5 13:42:19 2019
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:42:19 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom G6
In-Reply-To: <247608b3.7b1b.49eb.972b.6fb0eb8c24d8@samobile.net>
References: <247608b3.7b1b.49eb.972b.6fb0eb8c24d8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <BN6PR05MB29291C90C046F7C5A88E565BA0F50@BN6PR05MB2929.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hey Dar,

The insurance is through my wife?s employer.

Medical = Blue Cross Blue Shield
Prescriptions = CVS CareMark

Ed Worrell


> On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:50 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What insurance did you go to?
> ontana is so limited.
> Glad it is working for you.
> 
> Original message:
>> Hello Listers,
> 
>> It?s been awhile. I just switched insurance as of  July 1. I am finally able to get the Dexcom G6 system and it is covered at 100%. I am so happy for this discovery.
> 
>> My question for G6 users are there any glaring accessibility issues in the app. I know when I was using the G5 system 3 years ago the graph at the bottom of the screen was not read , Icons had funny labels all over the place within the app. I?m pretty tech savvy so minor bugs don?t bother me to much.
> 
>> Thanks for your help and answers.
> 
>> Ed
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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Jul  5 17:50:14 2019
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:50:14 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
In-Reply-To: <0e2801d532d7$9d9bd290$d8d377b0$@gmail.com>
References: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>
	<0e2801d532d7$9d9bd290$d8d377b0$@gmail.com>
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No, I am talking about an insulin pump not a glucose meter. It was one of
the first insulin pumps.  I guess Yale was testing them out.  I don't
remember who made it, but it did have a basic drip and I had to bolis for
meals.  This was way before I went on multiple injections of a long acting
insulin and coverage for meals.  I was not blind at that time.  Thinking
back it had to be closer to 40 years ago.

I do remember getting the talking blood glucose machine.  

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:16 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?

Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic for
33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters long
before then.

Bridgit

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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I was in
a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the team that
didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were offered to try
the pump.

 

I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape around
6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I remember
going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to go in they
pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.

 

I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too many
insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came out.

 

 

 

The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  All we
need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us blind folks.

 

Joyce





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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 18:52:45 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 12:52:45 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
 Veronica, I know you have a good deal of experience with dealing with
Dexcom and Medicare. Of course, anyone's ideas would be appreciated.
So, I just received a new transmitter for my G5, and seem to remember
that upgrades to the G6 for people with Medicare would be happening
throughout this year. When I asked the person who was filling my order
in customer service about when I would be eligibble for upgrading to
the G6, his response was I had to wait until everything I had with the
G5's warransies have expired. That would mean December, since the
Receiver has a one year warranty. Is there any way of getting around
this, or someone else within the company I could possibly contact?
Because, I do have a challenging time sometimes with doing the finger
sticks for checking my glucose with a regular meter. Also, with having
stage 3 kidney disease, the only pain killer type meds I'm allowed to
take are tylenol and aspirin. And with the G5 I do sometimes get weird
sugar bounces when I take Tylenol. Very rarely any more do I have
sensors fail on me, but I know in the past when I have, that's one of
the first questions they ask is about taking tylenol, since it still
has an impact on the G5. Thanks so much for whatever help you have.
Doula



From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Jul  5 20:32:20 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:32:20 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d53370$be8a3520$3b9e9f60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

You need to call and chat with the Medicare division. Then you need your
doctor and your local Dexcom rep to go to bat for you. No guarantees, but
that's where I would start.
Veronica


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Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 11:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare

Hi All,
 Veronica, I know you have a good deal of experience with dealing with
Dexcom and Medicare. Of course, anyone's ideas would be appreciated.
So, I just received a new transmitter for my G5, and seem to remember
that upgrades to the G6 for people with Medicare would be happening
throughout this year. When I asked the person who was filling my order
in customer service about when I would be eligibble for upgrading to
the G6, his response was I had to wait until everything I had with the
G5's warransies have expired. That would mean December, since the
Receiver has a one year warranty. Is there any way of getting around
this, or someone else within the company I could possibly contact?
Because, I do have a challenging time sometimes with doing the finger
sticks for checking my glucose with a regular meter. Also, with having
stage 3 kidney disease, the only pain killer type meds I'm allowed to
take are tylenol and aspirin. And with the G5 I do sometimes get weird
sugar bounces when I take Tylenol. Very rarely any more do I have
sensors fail on me, but I know in the past when I have, that's one of
the first questions they ask is about taking tylenol, since it still
has an impact on the G5. Thanks so much for whatever help you have.
Doula

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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Jul  5 21:05:37 2019
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:05:37 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare
In-Reply-To: <000301d53370$be8a3520$3b9e9f60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>
	<000301d53370$be8a3520$3b9e9f60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <017201d53375$658828b0$30987a10$@aol.com>

Just a note:

I was told by my distributor that Medicare put a freeze on approving Dexcom
request for the G6 until January 2020.  They said that Dexcom got swamped
with orders for the G6 transmitters and had delays in getting them out.
Medicare figured by holding off until Jan. 1, 2020 Dexcom will be able to
plan for having enough on hand.

The distributor told me that it depends on when you need to reorder the
transmitter after Jan 1, they will fill the order with the Dexcom g6.

So you might want to wait a little bit before you move forward on this.

Joyce 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with
Medicare

You need to call and chat with the Medicare division. Then you need your
doctor and your local Dexcom rep to go to bat for you. No guarantees, but
that's where I would start.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 11:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare

Hi All,
 Veronica, I know you have a good deal of experience with dealing with
Dexcom and Medicare. Of course, anyone's ideas would be appreciated.
So, I just received a new transmitter for my G5, and seem to remember that
upgrades to the G6 for people with Medicare would be happening throughout
this year. When I asked the person who was filling my order in customer
service about when I would be eligibble for upgrading to the G6, his
response was I had to wait until everything I had with the G5's warransies
have expired. That would mean December, since the Receiver has a one year
warranty. Is there any way of getting around this, or someone else within
the company I could possibly contact?
Because, I do have a challenging time sometimes with doing the finger sticks
for checking my glucose with a regular meter. Also, with having stage 3
kidney disease, the only pain killer type meds I'm allowed to take are
tylenol and aspirin. And with the G5 I do sometimes get weird sugar bounces
when I take Tylenol. Very rarely any more do I have sensors fail on me, but
I know in the past when I have, that's one of the first questions they ask
is about taking tylenol, since it still has an impact on the G5. Thanks so
much for whatever help you have.
Doula

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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Jul  5 21:13:58 2019
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:13:58 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <017401d53376$8fa6d2d0$aef47870$@aol.com>

Sorry I am reading things backwards.  My distributor told me the same thing,
but I told them I use my IPhone to get my information  from.  They told me
then I was good to go since I wasn't using that.  All I needed to do was
until Jan 1.  They did tell me to contact the distributor in December  to
give them the heads up on switching me to the upgrade.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 2:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare

Hi All,
 Veronica, I know you have a good deal of experience with dealing with
Dexcom and Medicare. Of course, anyone's ideas would be appreciated.
So, I just received a new transmitter for my G5, and seem to remember that
upgrades to the G6 for people with Medicare would be happening throughout
this year. When I asked the person who was filling my order in customer
service about when I would be eligibble for upgrading to the G6, his
response was I had to wait until everything I had with the G5's warransies
have expired. That would mean December, since the Receiver has a one year
warranty. Is there any way of getting around this, or someone else within
the company I could possibly contact?
Because, I do have a challenging time sometimes with doing the finger sticks
for checking my glucose with a regular meter. Also, with having stage 3
kidney disease, the only pain killer type meds I'm allowed to take are
tylenol and aspirin. And with the G5 I do sometimes get weird sugar bounces
when I take Tylenol. Very rarely any more do I have sensors fail on me, but
I know in the past when I have, that's one of the first questions they ask
is about taking tylenol, since it still has an impact on the G5. Thanks so
much for whatever help you have.
Doula

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Jul  5 23:58:56 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:58:56 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare
In-Reply-To: <017401d53376$8fa6d2d0$aef47870$@aol.com>
References: <CAOZMXTnAaT7VuKfOnjJyexHrxoCV8xLr4f_Ph0jqwewy5gDzig@mail.gmail.com>
	<017401d53376$8fa6d2d0$aef47870$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001d5338d$9b297b50$d17c71f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

And of course, you might want to call in October since we seem to get a
different answer every time we call Dexcom. Good grief what a zoo!
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 2:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with
Medicare

Sorry I am reading things backwards.  My distributor told me the same thing,
but I told them I use my IPhone to get my information  from.  They told me
then I was good to go since I wasn't using that.  All I needed to do was
until Jan 1.  They did tell me to contact the distributor in December  to
give them the heads up on switching me to the upgrade.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 2:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare

Hi All,
 Veronica, I know you have a good deal of experience with dealing with
Dexcom and Medicare. Of course, anyone's ideas would be appreciated.
So, I just received a new transmitter for my G5, and seem to remember that
upgrades to the G6 for people with Medicare would be happening throughout
this year. When I asked the person who was filling my order in customer
service about when I would be eligibble for upgrading to the G6, his
response was I had to wait until everything I had with the G5's warransies
have expired. That would mean December, since the Receiver has a one year
warranty. Is there any way of getting around this, or someone else within
the company I could possibly contact?
Because, I do have a challenging time sometimes with doing the finger sticks
for checking my glucose with a regular meter. Also, with having stage 3
kidney disease, the only pain killer type meds I'm allowed to take are
tylenol and aspirin. And with the G5 I do sometimes get weird sugar bounces
when I take Tylenol. Very rarely any more do I have sensors fail on me, but
I know in the past when I have, that's one of the first questions they ask
is about taking tylenol, since it still has an impact on the G5. Thanks so
much for whatever help you have.
Doula

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 02:41:00 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:41:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
In-Reply-To: <32A0822B-9175-4615-90BC-1FC6F86B64DD@gmail.com>
References: <01aa01d532bd$d335e4f0$79a1aed0$@aol.com>	<0e2801d532d7$9d9bd290$d8d377b0$@gmail.com>
	<32A0822B-9175-4615-90BC-1FC6F86B64DD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0f1e01d533a4$3fb46de0$bf1d49a0$@gmail.com>

Jamie,

I knew Eileen was initially referring to pumps, but in her post, she made a
comment about it being before "glucose monitoring machines" came out. I was
diagnosed with type 1 in 85, and my parents were given a meter, which I also
learned to use. The glucose monitoring machines is what threw me off and was
not sure what she meant by it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 5:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?

All I know is that I was a sophomore in college in 1984 when I started using
one of the very first blood glucose meters. I started having vision problems
in 1986 and was totally blind by 1987. I think it was in 1987 that I was
introduced to the very first talking meter which was that Accu Chek one that
was in a huge c carrying case. The meter it was on the left with a guide to
help you get the blood on the strip. You would carry all of your supplies
inside the case. It was big and bulky, but it worked!


What Joy and I were talking about was the very first insulin pump.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic 
> for
> 33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters 
> long before then.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?
> 
> I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I 
> was in a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the 
> team that didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were 
> offered to try the pump.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape 
> around 6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I 
> remember going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to 
> go in they pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.
> 
> 
> 
> I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too 
> many insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came
out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  
> All we need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us
blind folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Joyce
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 02:42:45 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:42:45 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
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Um, yeah, said I completely agree. There are other medical devices that equally can mean life and death for people. My point is that this should be a priority for all medical devices.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

This is very different from other devices in that it has life-threatening consequences for us if there is not at minimum a workable option for us. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

I don't disagree with you at all, but how is this different than every other device, program, software, etc. that's not accessible, and companies are not trying to make accessible? And people with other medical conditions also run into similar problems with accessibility in medical devices. It's the problem we come up against every day as blind people with all sorts of things. For every step forward we make, we seem to keep 20 more in place. I've been blind for 16 years now, and I see the exact same discussion happen every year about all manner of accessibility issues. So what finally gives?

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

I?m telling you we are all, each and every one of us no matter if using a Medtronic or other brand insulin pump on very treacherous ground with there being not a single other pump we can be switched over to. What all these companies get away with is horrible not making features available to those of us who are blind diabetics.

The person who called me to tell me about this article is helping her blind spouse to try and get a new insulin pump. His is a J&J pump that will be out of warrantee very soon and J&J isn?t making them any more either. They referred him to Medtronic and its up in the air right now if Medtronic will come through for them or not.

Its horrible.

Eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:28 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

In a way, this one really surprises me. I was in Las Vegas in 2011 when across town, at a different conference, someone demonstrated hacking into a Minimed pump, as it was called then. That's one of the things that made them stop talking to James whatever his name was, who made a talking remote for one of their pumps. 
So I really can't figure out why they're suddenly doing this because this is really old information. And if your particular pump doesn't use a remote, how is someone going to get in? And mind you, there is no evidence of this actually happening anywhere. So as far as I'm concerned, they're panicking about the wrong person getting in and not bothering to let many other people in at all. That's old news too. I remember them talking about making an insulin pump we could use back in the nineties. 
But boy, crossing my fingers that you guys don't get your only option snatched out from under you.
Veronica


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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 12:05 PM
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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
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BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

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Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 02:48:28 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:48:28 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
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Why have Medtronic customers not been notified? If its in the middle of a recall, those with recalled pumps would or should be notified. Like others have said here, this is old news with no actual reports of pump tampering. And most the pumps listed in the article are older models. I may have missed it, but I did not see the 530G listed, which is what many of us switched to when Animas went belly-up. This article doesn't actually quote a Medtronic pump customer with a recalled pump, nor does it actually quote Medtronic itself. It all seems heresy. They seem to have found secondary sources without finding direct sources. Doesn't mean there isn't a recall happening, but this journalist didn't do due diligence. Until I hear directly from Medtronic, I'm not freaking out and jumping to conclusions.

Bridgit

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 8:09 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

You you know what, you can go onto any search engine of your choosing and type in Medtronic insulin pump recall. Besides this, as I said in a previous message, there was a write up about in yesterday?s local news paper.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:18 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

What's the credibility of this article? Yeah, this has been a discussion for years. Like a decade or more. So, why the immediate concern now? And if Medtronic were recalling meters, wouldn't patients have been notified? BTW, I do not see the 530G listed in this article, which is what I have.

Bridgit

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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 02:52:26 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:52:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
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Joyce,

Ah, gotcha. I was diagnosed with diabetes when I was 4 in the mid 80s but
did not became blind until my mid 20s in 2005, so by then, talking meters
were definitely a thing. Sadly, still waiting on the talking pump.

Bridgit

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blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?

No, I am talking about an insulin pump not a glucose meter. It was one of
the first insulin pumps.  I guess Yale was testing them out.  I don't
remember who made it, but it did have a basic drip and I had to bolis for
meals.  This was way before I went on multiple injections of a long acting
insulin and coverage for meals.  I was not blind at that time.  Thinking
back it had to be closer to 40 years ago.

I do remember getting the talking blood glucose machine.  

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:16 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?

Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic for
33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters long
before then.

Bridgit

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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I was in
a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the team that
didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were offered to try
the pump.

 

I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape around
6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I remember
going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to go in they
pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.

 

I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too many
insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came out.

 

 

 

The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  All we
need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us blind folks.

 

Joyce





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 02:57:11 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:57:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare
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In terms of upgrading with Medicare, it depends on if you have a Medicare
Advantage plan or just Medicare. Those with an Advantage plan can upgrade to
the G6, but I was told it had to be after your transmitter expired, which is
every 3 months, not the receiver, but I could have wrong info. I was told
that when I next need to order a transmitter, I can request to upgrade to
the G6, but I have chose to stick with the G5 for now, because a friend of
mine who upgraded gave me a ton of G5 sensors, and personally, I'm not
having issues with the G5 sensors or readings in general. But once I'm out
of sensors, and it's time to switch transmittors, I do plan to upgrade.

If you have just Medicare, the upgrade is still up in the air. Dexcom keeps
changing the timeline for when straight Medicare customers can upgrade to
the G6.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] question about upgrading to the G6 with Medicare

Hi All,
 Veronica, I know you have a good deal of experience with dealing with
Dexcom and Medicare. Of course, anyone's ideas would be appreciated.
So, I just received a new transmitter for my G5, and seem to remember that
upgrades to the G6 for people with Medicare would be happening throughout
this year. When I asked the person who was filling my order in customer
service about when I would be eligibble for upgrading to the G6, his
response was I had to wait until everything I had with the G5's warransies
have expired. That would mean December, since the Receiver has a one year
warranty. Is there any way of getting around this, or someone else within
the company I could possibly contact?
Because, I do have a challenging time sometimes with doing the finger sticks
for checking my glucose with a regular meter. Also, with having stage 3
kidney disease, the only pain killer type meds I'm allowed to take are
tylenol and aspirin. And with the G5 I do sometimes get weird sugar bounces
when I take Tylenol. Very rarely any more do I have sensors fail on me, but
I know in the past when I have, that's one of the first questions they ask
is about taking tylenol, since it still has an impact on the G5. Thanks so
much for whatever help you have.
Doula

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Jul  6 03:20:05 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 23:20:05 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
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Bridget,

I wrote not a thing about glucose meters. You?re thinking of another post from others on the list.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 10:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

Jamie,

I knew Eileen was initially referring to pumps, but in her post, she made a
comment about it being before "glucose monitoring machines" came out. I was
diagnosed with type 1 in 85, and my parents were given a meter, which I also
learned to use. The glucose monitoring machines is what threw me off and was
not sure what she meant by it.

Bridgit

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Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 5:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?

All I know is that I was a sophomore in college in 1984 when I started using
one of the very first blood glucose meters. I started having vision problems
in 1986 and was totally blind by 1987. I think it was in 1987 that I was
introduced to the very first talking meter which was that Accu Chek one that
was in a huge c carrying case. The meter it was on the left with a guide to
help you get the blood on the strip. You would carry all of your supplies
inside the case. It was big and bulky, but it worked!


What Joy and I were talking about was the very first insulin pump.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic 
> for
> 33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters 
> long before then.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
out?
> 
> I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I 
> was in a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the 
> team that didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were 
> offered to try the pump.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape 
> around 6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I 
> remember going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to 
> go in they pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.
> 
> 
> 
> I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too 
> many insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came
out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  
> All we need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us
blind folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Joyce
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From julie.mclean at cox.net  Sat Jul  6 13:17:39 2019
From: julie.mclean at cox.net (Julie Mclean)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 09:17:39 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
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Hi Bridget, 
You are correct. Medtronic has its faults but I have used their pumps for over 20 years. About two years ago my infusion sets were recalled.  Medtronic went to great lengths to notify me and offered to replace any  sets I had on hand with specific serial numbers. I was able to  get replacements immediately that did not have the issue .  
Based on that post with Medtronic pump model numbers that were recalled, they all looked to be ones that have long since gone out of warranty. I saw some that I used in the past but not for many years. 
I value this forum because it is critical for all of us to share information and resources to help each other. 
Best regards,
Julie McLean

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 10:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Why have Medtronic customers not been notified? If its in the middle of a recall, those with recalled pumps would or should be notified. Like others have said here, this is old news with no actual reports of pump tampering. And most the pumps listed in the article are older models. I may have missed it, but I did not see the 530G listed, which is what many of us switched to when Animas went belly-up. This article doesn't actually quote a Medtronic pump customer with a recalled pump, nor does it actually quote Medtronic itself. It all seems heresy. They seem to have found secondary sources without finding direct sources. Doesn't mean there isn't a recall happening, but this journalist didn't do due diligence. Until I hear directly from Medtronic, I'm not freaking out and jumping to conclusions.

Bridgit

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 8:09 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

You you know what, you can go onto any search engine of your choosing and type in Medtronic insulin pump recall. Besides this, as I said in a previous message, there was a write up about in yesterday?s local news paper.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:18 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

What's the credibility of this article? Yeah, this has been a discussion for years. Like a decade or more. So, why the immediate concern now? And if Medtronic were recalling meters, wouldn't patients have been notified? BTW, I do not see the 530G listed in this article, which is what I have.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
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BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 512/712 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 515/715 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522/722 (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 522K/722K (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523/723 (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 523K/723K (Version 2.4A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm 712E* (All versions) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554CM/754CM* (Version 2.7A or lower) ?  MiniMed Paradigm Veo 554/754* (Version 2.6A or lower) list end

First published on June 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 20:11:37 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 15:11:37 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane
 out?
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Yes, it was Joyce, and I already acknowledge this.

Bridgit

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Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 10:20 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

Bridget,

I wrote not a thing about glucose meters. You?re thinking of another post from others on the list.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 10:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

Jamie,

I knew Eileen was initially referring to pumps, but in her post, she made a comment about it being before "glucose monitoring machines" came out. I was diagnosed with type 1 in 85, and my parents were given a meter, which I also learned to use. The glucose monitoring machines is what threw me off and was not sure what she meant by it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 5:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first cane out?

All I know is that I was a sophomore in college in 1984 when I started using one of the very first blood glucose meters. I started having vision problems in 1986 and was totally blind by 1987. I think it was in 1987 that I was introduced to the very first talking meter which was that Accu Chek one that was in a huge c carrying case. The meter it was on the left with a guide to help you get the blood on the strip. You would carry all of your supplies inside the case. It was big and bulky, but it worked!


What Joy and I were talking about was the very first insulin pump.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
> Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean before talking meters came out? Because I've been diabetic 
> for
> 33 years, and I always had a meter, and there have been glucameters 
> long before then.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Does anyone remember the pumps that first 
> cane
out?
> 
> I had a chance to receive an insulin pump more than 30 years ago.  I 
> was in a study up at Yale having to do with my sight.  I was on the 
> team that didn't use the pump, but when we finishe the study we were 
> offered to try the pump.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't remember the sensors, but the pump was the size of a VHS tape 
> around 6" by 9" by 3".  It beep every time it administered insulin.  I 
> remember going to a concert wearing it and when I got the pat down to 
> go in they pulled me out of line and asked a lot of questions.
> 
> 
> 
> I used it for maybe 3 months, but my kids were young and I had too 
> many insulin reactions and this was before blood glucose machines came
out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The one I have now is far advanced and much easier than back then.  
> All we need is to get the pump companies to make it accessible for us
blind folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Joyce
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Jul  6 20:14:24 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 15:14:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.
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Julie,

It would make sense it would recall pumps without warranties. In a couple of years, the 530G will also be out of warranty. I wonder at the accuracy of this article, especially since it does not have direct quotes from customers or Medtronic itself. Perhaps it's more about recalling pumps no longer under warranty than it is about a security risk. Just curious.

Bridgit

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Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 8:18 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Julie Mclean <julie.mclean at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Bridget, 
You are correct. Medtronic has its faults but I have used their pumps for over 20 years. About two years ago my infusion sets were recalled.  Medtronic went to great lengths to notify me and offered to replace any  sets I had on hand with specific serial numbers. I was able to  get replacements immediately that did not have the issue .  
Based on that post with Medtronic pump model numbers that were recalled, they all looked to be ones that have long since gone out of warranty. I saw some that I used in the past but not for many years. 
I value this forum because it is critical for all of us to share information and resources to help each other. 
Best regards,
Julie McLean

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 10:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Why have Medtronic customers not been notified? If its in the middle of a recall, those with recalled pumps would or should be notified. Like others have said here, this is old news with no actual reports of pump tampering. And most the pumps listed in the article are older models. I may have missed it, but I did not see the 530G listed, which is what many of us switched to when Animas went belly-up. This article doesn't actually quote a Medtronic pump customer with a recalled pump, nor does it actually quote Medtronic itself. It all seems heresy. They seem to have found secondary sources without finding direct sources. Doesn't mean there isn't a recall happening, but this journalist didn't do due diligence. Until I hear directly from Medtronic, I'm not freaking out and jumping to conclusions.

Bridgit

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 8:09 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

You you know what, you can go onto any search engine of your choosing and type in Medtronic insulin pump recall. Besides this, as I said in a previous message, there was a write up about in yesterday?s local news paper.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:18 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

What's the credibility of this article? Yeah, this has been a discussion for years. Like a decade or more. So, why the immediate concern now? And if Medtronic were recalling meters, wouldn't patients have been notified? BTW, I do not see the 530G listed in this article, which is what I have.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:05 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Recall.

Hi Medtronic Pump Users:

A friend just called to tell me about an article she was reading in her local paper. Apparently, Medtronic is recalling insulin pumps of which the Paradigm series is included, because of security risks.

Below is a write up I located on line from only a few days ago. Unfortunately, my pump is among the recalled models.While I?m not giving this pump easily, if they recall them it could mean the supplies for it will no longer be obtainable.

Eileen

ps because hackers could hijack device
list of 3 items
facebook
twitter
flipboard
list end

BY AIMEE PICCHI

JUNE 28, 2019 / 9:16 AM / MONEYWATCH

list of 3 items
?  Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a risk that hackers could take control and change their settings. 
?  The FDA said diabetics should talk with their doctors about switching to models with more cybersecurity protection. 
?  Diabetics should get help right away if they think their MiniMed settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

list end

Medtronic is recalling several models of its MiniMed insulin pumps because of a cybersecurity risk that could allow hackers to take control of the devices remotely and change their settings, potentially leading to serious health complications. 

"Patients with diabetes using these models should switch their insulin pump to models that are better equipped to protect against these potential risks,"
the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said in a statement. 

The pumps work by using a wireless radio frequency to communicate with other devices used by diabetics, such as blood glucose monitors and glucose sensor transmitters. In a letter to patients, Medtronic said that "an unauthorized person" could potentially connect wirelessly to one of the nearby pumps and change its settings. 
Because insulin pumps regulate the dose and frequency of insulin given to diabetics, interference with their settings could cause potentially serious health implications.

"This could lead to hypoglycemia (if additional insulin is delivered) or hyperglycemia and diabetic ketoacidosis (if not enough insulin is delivered),"
Medtronic said in the letter. 

It's not the first time security issues have been raised about Medtronic insulin pumps. In 2011, security researcher Jay Radcliffe warned about a security flaw that could allow a hacker to disable a Medtronic insulin pump. 

"No confirmed reports"

Medtronic said it has received "no confirmed reports of unauthorized persons changing settings or controlling insulin delivery."

Medtronic is recommending that diabetics who use the pump take several precautions, including keeping the pump and devices connected to the pump "within your control at all times." People who use the pump should also be alert to the pump's notifications, alarms and alerts and not share their pump's serial number. 

The FDA recommends seeking medical help if diabetics with the pumps believe their settings have changed, or they feel symptoms of severe hypoglycemia or diabetic ketoacidosis.

Below are the models, with the software version in parenthesis:

list of 11 items
?  MiniMed 508 (All versions)
?  MiniMed Paradigm 511 (All versions)
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From hmladek at neo.rr.com  Sun Jul  7 19:06:25 2019
From: hmladek at neo.rr.com (Rick Mladek)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 15:06:25 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet,
 hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...
Message-ID: <00a101d534f7$14579bf0$3d06d3d0$@neo.rr.com>

Hi All,

 

I've not received any messages lately. I'm testing to see if I'm still
receiving and hope you all are doing well.

 

Thank you for your understanding,

 

Rick

 



From m.barber817 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  7 19:44:54 2019
From: m.barber817 at gmail.com (Michael Barber)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 14:44:54 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet,
 hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...
In-Reply-To: <00a101d534f7$14579bf0$3d06d3d0$@neo.rr.com>
References: <00a101d534f7$14579bf0$3d06d3d0$@neo.rr.com>
Message-ID: <B51B1146-73FD-4BFD-9BBC-09392D1B0CF1@gmail.com>

You?re fine.  Just enjoy the quiet.  :) 

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Rick Mladek via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I've not received any messages lately. I'm testing to see if I'm still
> receiving and hope you all are doing well.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your understanding,
> 
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Jul  7 21:01:07 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 14:01:07 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet,
 hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...
In-Reply-To: <B51B1146-73FD-4BFD-9BBC-09392D1B0CF1@gmail.com>
References: <00a101d534f7$14579bf0$3d06d3d0$@neo.rr.com>
	<B51B1146-73FD-4BFD-9BBC-09392D1B0CF1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d53507$19278040$4b7680c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Besides, many people are likely attending the national convention, so not writing to you here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 12:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet, hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...

You?re fine.  Just enjoy the quiet.  :) 

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Rick Mladek via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I've not received any messages lately. I'm testing to see if I'm still
> receiving and hope you all are doing well.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your understanding,
> 
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Jul  8 00:31:09 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 20:31:09 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet,
 hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...
Message-ID: <1d138b99.c6ac.43d2.adb0.6a547b9aed70@samobile.net>

Enjoying the summer,
was outside and kept sugars down.

Original message:
> Hi All,



> I've not received any messages lately. I'm testing to see if I'm still
> receiving and hope you all are doing well.



> Thank you for your understanding,



> Rick



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From hmladek at neo.rr.com  Tue Jul  9 18:57:19 2019
From: hmladek at neo.rr.com (Rick Mladek)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 14:57:19 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet,
 hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...
In-Reply-To: <000601d53507$19278040$4b7680c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <00a101d534f7$14579bf0$3d06d3d0$@neo.rr.com>	<B51B1146-73FD-4BFD-9BBC-09392D1B0CF1@gmail.com>
	<000601d53507$19278040$4b7680c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <030001d53688$24301240$6c9036c0$@neo.rr.com>

Yes, I am aware of the convention. The issue was found to be messages were bouncing back and I have it all corrected now, thank you...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet, hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...

Besides, many people are likely attending the national convention, so not writing to you here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 12:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet, hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...

You?re fine.  Just enjoy the quiet.  :) 

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Rick Mladek via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I've not received any messages lately. I'm testing to see if I'm still 
> receiving and hope you all are doing well.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your understanding,
> 
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul  9 21:56:25 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 14:56:25 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet,
 hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...
In-Reply-To: <030001d53688$24301240$6c9036c0$@neo.rr.com>
References: <00a101d534f7$14579bf0$3d06d3d0$@neo.rr.com>	<B51B1146-73FD-4BFD-9BBC-09392D1B0CF1@gmail.com>	<000601d53507$19278040$4b7680c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<030001d53688$24301240$6c9036c0$@neo.rr.com>
Message-ID: <005801d536a1$27865fd0$76931f70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Apparently the hotel is charging two arms and a leg for wifi so we probably won't be hearing from anyone there. <grin>
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 11:57 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Rick Mladek
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet, hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...

Yes, I am aware of the convention. The issue was found to be messages were bouncing back and I have it all corrected now, thank you...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet, hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...

Besides, many people are likely attending the national convention, so not writing to you here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2019 12:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] quiet, hope everyone is enjoying their 4th weekend...

You?re fine.  Just enjoy the quiet.  :) 

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Rick Mladek via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I've not received any messages lately. I'm testing to see if I'm still 
> receiving and hope you all are doing well.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your understanding,
> 
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Jul 19 20:28:05 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:28:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom's at it again!
Message-ID: <000001d53e70$78ee2570$6aca7050$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi everyone.
Here's hoping some of you have recovered from convention, many of you are
keeping cool and all of that. I am about to start my week end without my
Dexcom. First they delayed getting back to me as I was trying to place my
order for sensors and now my order is stuck in that black hole they call
quality control. Right! Delay in shipping. Oh, but we'll get you a
complementary sensor. That was denied. So I now do without for who knows how
long. 
I don't understand this new brand of people running a company who makes
life-saving technology who doesn't seem to be the least bit bothered if
patients do without it. 
Two weeks ago I had a defective injector pen for my rheumatoid arthritis
medication and the company claimed they'd replace it. But of course, my
doctor had to fill out this form, prescription, bla bla bla! I just did
without for a week and never did hear from them. 

But back to companies like Dexcom, with all of the various diabetes this and
that organizations out there, I can't believe that I can't find anybody
making a giant fuss about this. 
And just in time, I briefly found an article stating that CVS was going to
limit the number of test strips any individual person could purchase,
regardless of medical need. "If you need more, you'll have to go somewhere
else." I'll try and find that link again and if I succeed, I'll post it
here. 
Sometimes I think the medical profession just wants us to die and get out of
the way. Either that or someone's making a boat load of money off of
hospitalizations for serious complications.
Okay, gripe over. Thanks for having the space where I can vent my
frustration while I do life and try to act like everything's just peachy. 
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407






From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 23 09:32:41 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 05:32:41 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
Message-ID: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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prohibited.

 

 



From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul 23 17:33:37 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:33:37 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi Walter.
Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry this is your story to share. But
it's nice to hear how it goes when someone gets brave or desperate enough to
try something out of the ordinary. For some reason, that's the potential
complication that scares me the most. So it's good to read posts and know
that others are coping. I hope you were able to get some quality sleep and
that you can find some consistent relief in the future. Keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue;
a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 23 19:27:29 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:27:29 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
	<001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <00af01d5418c$aba51f90$02ef5eb0$@gmail.com>

Thank you Veronica,

I actually over slept this morning and woke up rested.

Be Blessed,
Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:34 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hi Walter.
Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry this is your story to share. But
it's nice to hear how it goes when someone gets brave or desperate enough to
try something out of the ordinary. For some reason, that's the potential
complication that scares me the most. So it's good to read posts and know
that others are coping. I hope you were able to get some quality sleep and
that you can find some consistent relief in the future. Keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue;
a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Jul 23 19:48:04 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:48:04 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
	<001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <001301d5418f$8bd52c70$a37f8550$@comcast.net>

Well said, and I agree. Neuropathy is what scares me the most and motivates
me to be at least reasonably cautious when I make my choices.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:34 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hi Walter.
Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry this is your story to share. But
it's nice to hear how it goes when someone gets brave or desperate enough to
try something out of the ordinary. For some reason, that's the potential
complication that scares me the most. So it's good to read posts and know
that others are coping. I hope you were able to get some quality sleep and
that you can find some consistent relief in the future. Keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue;
a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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From fidano at comcast.net  Tue Jul 23 23:37:07 2019
From: fidano at comcast.net (fidano at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:37:07 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002c01d541af$8b60b230$a2221690$@comcast.net>

Yes, my quadriplegic nephew uses the  CBD and THC.. there are many strains,
and medical is not like anything I recall smoking as a young adult!
But he has  times he feels he is laying in a hot griddle of oil!
And it helps better then  any other and w/o the psych crap many know occurs
w/Pot.
I too .. do not relish the day I might have this side effect of diabetes.
Glad you've found some comfort!!!
	Tamera

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Walter
Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
<ohiodan-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>;
Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue
<vashaun.jones at gmail.com>; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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From lras at sprynet.com  Wed Jul 24 00:30:07 2019
From: lras at sprynet.com (Lloyd Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:30:07 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>

I am glad that something worked for you.
I read an article about the CBD industry in an issue of Science News during 
the last few months. There is apparently a lot of hype surrounding these 
products, and the dosage can vary from practically nothing to a lot. I urge 
caution.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD

-----Original Message----- 
From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:32 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org ; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell ; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com ; VaShaun jones 
Dialogue ; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com ; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,



I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below



It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.



Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.



Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.



I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.



And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in

the past, Thanks be to God!





Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website



"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!



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From m.barber817 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 11:50:38 2019
From: m.barber817 at gmail.com (Michael Barber)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 06:50:38 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
	<F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>
Message-ID: <1B617F88-4ABF-4AFA-BF85-8594513BFE72@gmail.com>

I?m in full agreement with Lloyd here.  I?ve wasted a lot of money on stuff like this to the point I?ve decided no longer to be sucked in by their claims.



Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 23, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am glad that something worked for you.
> I read an article about the CBD industry in an issue of Science News during the last few months. There is apparently a lot of hype surrounding these products, and the dosage can vary from practically nothing to a lot. I urge caution.
> 
> 
> 
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:32 AM
> To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org ; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
> Cc: Walter Mitchell ; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com ; VaShaun jones Dialogue ; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com ; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
> 
> Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,
> 
> 
> 
> I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
> provides to his people. . Please read below
> 
> 
> 
> It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
> degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
> my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
> am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
> Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
> different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
> is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
> This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
> on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
> minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
> some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
> not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
> Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
> most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
> is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.
> 
> 
> 
> I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
> it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
> work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
> on my website.
> 
> 
> 
> And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
> not have been possible in
> 
> the past, Thanks be to God!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Good Night!
> 
> Walter Mitchell
> 
> L2T Products and Services, LLC
> 
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free
> 
> (513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line
> 
> (877) 226-5824 Fax
> 
> www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website
> 
> 
> 
> "From Logistics to Technology,
> 
> We deliver Quality"!
> 
> 
> 
> NOTICE:  This e-mail transmission (including any documents or files
> accompanying it) may contain confidential information. It is intended only
> for the use of the recipients named above. If you are not an intended
> recipient, please (1) do not read, copy or retransmit this communication,
> (2) delete it immediately, and (3) notify sender promptly. Any unauthorized
> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly
> prohibited.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul 24 18:38:36 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:38:36 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <1B617F88-4ABF-4AFA-BF85-8594513BFE72@gmail.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>	<F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>
	<1B617F88-4ABF-4AFA-BF85-8594513BFE72@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006301d5424f$01241850$036c48f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I heard on the news this morning that there is some sort of hearing involving the FDA tomorrow on this very subject. But apparently Congress has to act in order for the FDA to do anything, which strikes me really odd. But the FDA is thinking about it long after this stuff is everywhere, just like it did with vaping. But I did learn that as it now stands, if someone goes to a company's web site and writes a testimonial about how CBD helped, fill in the disease, the company can actually be punished for making false medical claims. So many companies are now scrambling to fix their web sites. But it's a tough thing these days as the good, the bad and the fake can be circulated around faster and further than ever before. But then, I've seen doctors get caught up in some pretty messy stuff with the drug industry too. What's a person to do! And I do understand the desperation and sometimes, it's only money. I know that on the worst days of my experience with Singles, if someone had knocked on my door, offering me relief which could get me sent to jail, you bet I'd have taken it. <grin> 
So yes, we just need to be smart, desperate consumers. Hang in there and keep sharing your experiences here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 4:51 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

I?m in full agreement with Lloyd here.  I?ve wasted a lot of money on stuff like this to the point I?ve decided no longer to be sucked in by their claims.



Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 23, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am glad that something worked for you.
> I read an article about the CBD industry in an issue of Science News during the last few months. There is apparently a lot of hype surrounding these products, and the dosage can vary from practically nothing to a lot. I urge caution.
> 
> 
> 
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:32 AM
> To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org ; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
> Cc: Walter Mitchell ; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com ; VaShaun jones Dialogue ; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com ; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
> 
> Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,
> 
> 
> 
> I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
> provides to his people. . Please read below
> 
> 
> 
> It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
> degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
> my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
> am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
> Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
> different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
> is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
> This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
> on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
> minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
> some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
> not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
> Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
> most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
> is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.
> 
> 
> 
> I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
> it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
> work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
> on my website.
> 
> 
> 
> And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
> not have been possible in
> 
> the past, Thanks be to God!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Good Night!
> 
> Walter Mitchell
> 
> L2T Products and Services, LLC
> 
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free
> 
> (513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line
> 
> (877) 226-5824 Fax
> 
> www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website
> 
> 
> 
> "From Logistics to Technology,
> 
> We deliver Quality"!
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul 24 19:06:51 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 12:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
Message-ID: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up her
mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the back
of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds 200
units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her. But
I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1 diabetics
will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't tell
her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that response
you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..." Stammer
stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407






From cindyray at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 19:41:26 2019
From: cindyray at gmail.com (cindyray at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>

That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
Cindy Lou


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up her
mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the back
of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds 200
units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her. But
I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1 diabetics
will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't tell
her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that response
you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..." Stammer
stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 21:39:16 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:39:16 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <006301d5424f$01241850$036c48f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>	<F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>
	<1B617F88-4ABF-4AFA-BF85-8594513BFE72@gmail.com>
	<006301d5424f$01241850$036c48f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <006301d54268$3eabdbe0$bc0393a0$@gmail.com>

Thank you Veronica for the information. I am close to signing a contract for the salve and whether I sale it on my website or by word of mouth, it is very worthy of my attention. I also have been researching the hemp penny stock. I believe once people get passs the crazy marketing schemes and give the products a try, the stock prices for these products will go thru the roof. I plan to be ready!

Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

I heard on the news this morning that there is some sort of hearing involving the FDA tomorrow on this very subject. But apparently Congress has to act in order for the FDA to do anything, which strikes me really odd. But the FDA is thinking about it long after this stuff is everywhere, just like it did with vaping. But I did learn that as it now stands, if someone goes to a company's web site and writes a testimonial about how CBD helped, fill in the disease, the company can actually be punished for making false medical claims. So many companies are now scrambling to fix their web sites. But it's a tough thing these days as the good, the bad and the fake can be circulated around faster and further than ever before. But then, I've seen doctors get caught up in some pretty messy stuff with the drug industry too. What's a person to do! And I do understand the desperation and sometimes, it's only money. I know that on the worst days of my experience with Singles, if someone had knocked on my door, offering me relief which could get me sent to jail, you bet I'd have taken it. <grin> 
So yes, we just need to be smart, desperate consumers. Hang in there and keep sharing your experiences here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 4:51 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

I?m in full agreement with Lloyd here.  I?ve wasted a lot of money on stuff like this to the point I?ve decided no longer to be sucked in by their claims.



Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 23, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am glad that something worked for you.
> I read an article about the CBD industry in an issue of Science News during the last few months. There is apparently a lot of hype surrounding these products, and the dosage can vary from practically nothing to a lot. I urge caution.
> 
> 
> 
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:32 AM
> To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org ; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
> Cc: Walter Mitchell ; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com ; VaShaun jones Dialogue ; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com ; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
> 
> Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,
> 
> 
> 
> I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
> provides to his people. . Please read below
> 
> 
> 
> It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
> degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
> my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
> am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
> Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
> different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
> is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
> This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
> on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
> minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
> some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
> not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
> Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
> most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
> is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.
> 
> 
> 
> I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
> it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
> work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
> on my website.
> 
> 
> 
> And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
> not have been possible in
> 
> the past, Thanks be to God!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Good Night!
> 
> Walter Mitchell
> 
> L2T Products and Services, LLC
> 
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free
> 
> (513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line
> 
> (877) 226-5824 Fax
> 
> www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website
> 
> 
> 
> "From Logistics to Technology,
> 
> We deliver Quality"!
> 
> 
> 
> NOTICE:  This e-mail transmission (including any documents or files
> accompanying it) may contain confidential information. It is intended only
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 21:52:46 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:52:46 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
	<F05ECA31F2434C8A9958988418D56B1A@lras10>
Message-ID: <006501d5426a$21c31fa0$65495ee0$@gmail.com>

I appreciate your caution Lloyd, but I got my salve from the manufacturer.
He has been a long time friend and colleague . He knew that I suffered with
neuropathy and asked me to give his product a try. Thank God it worked. He
was more worried about his friend and the pain that he has witnessed me
going thru, and now I am the interested party in a business deal with him.

I get allot of trash mail in my inbox about CBD and never had the interest
to try them. I am just so glad and appreciative that my friend introduced it
to me. 
He explained the potency and other aspects of the salve of which I did not
understand, but I will!

Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Lloyd Rasmussen via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 8:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

I am glad that something worked for you.
I read an article about the CBD industry in an issue of Science News during 
the last few months. There is apparently a lot of hype surrounding these 
products, and the dosage can vary from practically nothing to a lot. I urge 
caution.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD

-----Original Message----- 
From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:32 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org ; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell ; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com ; VaShaun jones 
Dialogue ; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com ; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,



I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below



It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.



Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.



Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.



I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.



And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in

the past, Thanks be to God!





Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website



"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!



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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 22:01:37 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:01:37 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <002c01d541af$8b60b230$a2221690$@comcast.net>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>
	<002c01d541af$8b60b230$a2221690$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006701d5426b$5e083df0$1a18b9d0$@gmail.com>

Well Tamaera, when I applied the salve, it felt like my foot had just been
lubricated from the inside. To get some relief within 5 to 10 minutes was
incredible.

If your nephew experienced any thing like I did, I'm sure that He feel that
this is the healing of the nations!

I will keep him in my prayers. God can do anything!

Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Tamera via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: fidano at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Yes, my quadriplegic nephew uses the  CBD and THC.. there are many strains,
and medical is not like anything I recall smoking as a young adult!
But he has  times he feels he is laying in a hot griddle of oil!
And it helps better then  any other and w/o the psych crap many know occurs
w/Pot.
I too .. do not relish the day I might have this side effect of diabetes.
Glad you've found some comfort!!!
	Tamera

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Walter
Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
<ohiodan-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>;
Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue
<vashaun.jones at gmail.com>; a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

NOTICE:  This e-mail transmission (including any documents or files
accompanying it) may contain confidential information. It is intended only
for the use of the recipients named above. If you are not an intended
recipient, please (1) do not read, copy or retransmit this communication,
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 22:06:50 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:06:50 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
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Hello Jeanette,

I wouldn't wish the pain of neuropathy on my worst enemy. I hope and pray
that you never have to endure anything like it.

After trying it, I felt so good, I had to share what had just happened.
Thank you for even reading my testimony.

Walter


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Well said, and I agree. Neuropathy is what scares me the most and motivates
me to be at least reasonably cautious when I make my choices.

Jeanette 

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Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:34 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hi Walter.
Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry this is your story to share. But
it's nice to hear how it goes when someone gets brave or desperate enough to
try something out of the ordinary. For some reason, that's the potential
complication that scares me the most. So it's good to read posts and know
that others are coping. I hope you were able to get some quality sleep and
that you can find some consistent relief in the future. Keep us posted.
Veronica


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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue;
a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Jul 24 23:57:23 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:57:23 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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Boy, what in the world did she think was on your arm?  A leech?  Good thing
you had a quick, ear-piercing response!

I can't say I've ever had someone do anything that bold.  When my kids were
younger, I took them to the neighborhood pool.  I would get in the water or
sit on the side of the pool and often had my infusion set on my thigh or
arm.  The Spirit pump sets have a blue coloring, and I never had anyone ever
question what was on my arm, let alone try to rip it off of me!  

Here's a funny story to make you laugh, Veronica.  By the way, I now have a
job.  I am a host home provider and mentor for a young woman with
intellectual disabilities.  One of the local agencies cclosed its group
homes, and they were scrambling to find placements for the clients.  My
friend knew that I was looking for a job and asked if I thought I would be
interested in becoming a host home for her friend's daughter.  My kids and I
met the young woman who is almost 21 and thought it would be a good
opportunity for all of us.  I am paid to provide her 24-7 supervision and
work on her goals every day.  I also get paid rent.  They have been so
desperate to find homes that they even waived the good old  requirement that
I have a driver's license.  Her mom really went to bat for that one, since
she wants her daughter to learn how to get around using public
transportation and the Para-transit system.  Within two weeks of agreeing to
do this, I had to complete an application, two interviews, a home study, an
in-person training, my mentee's staffing and complete 12 online trainings.
She moved in July 18.  Things are going well at this point.  

Anyway, my funny story...

At the in-person training, the young woman asked if I could see the training
manual that she spread open between us.  "No", I said.  I'll need you to
send the manual electronically to me if you can.  Her next question really
took me by surprise.  "Can you read lips then?".  I smiled at her and very
nicely said "I'm blind, not deaf" while in my head I was thinking other
things.  Oh, she says and we continue with the training.  That was a new one
on me.
Take care
				Jamie


				Jamie
  

-----Original Message-----
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Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up her
mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the back
of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds 200
units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her. But
I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1 diabetics
will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't tell
her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that response
you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..." Stammer
stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 01:11:15 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:11:15 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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People now a days think they are trying to be helpful when they  are not. 




From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Jul 25 01:56:39 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:56:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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Oh Jamie, that's hilarious! People never cease to amaze me. 
And you know, this lady with me wasn't being helpful. Nothing about this was
helpful Very often, in my opinion, when people come up and try to give
so-called help, sorry, it's not about me at all. It's their ego, plain and
simple. Today this woman disrespected my boundaries. It doesn't work to
start by assuming I'm so stupid I don't know there's a great big square
thing on the back of my arm. 
But congrats on the job, Jamie. Sounds like a good fit for you and may all
things health continue to go smoothly.
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:11 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Jul 25 03:37:25 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 23:37:25 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
Message-ID: <735D3BE8094F4FB0AC94B060C088AC9C@eileen>

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen
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From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 04:04:42 2019
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (Robert Shelton)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 23:04:42 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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Nowhere near as serious as your encounter, but my personal favorite: "Take a
left, no a right, no, go straight..." And somehow the magical gift of vision
tells you where I need to go? And the poor littl' darlin's have no clue...
Keep the light-dependent in your thoughts, prayers and good thoughts.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Oh Jamie, that's hilarious! People never cease to amaze me. 
And you know, this lady with me wasn't being helpful. Nothing about this was
helpful Very often, in my opinion, when people come up and try to give
so-called help, sorry, it's not about me at all. It's their ego, plain and
simple. Today this woman disrespected my boundaries. It doesn't work to
start by assuming I'm so stupid I don't know there's a great big square
thing on the back of my arm. 
But congrats on the job, Jamie. Sounds like a good fit for you and may all
things health continue to go smoothly.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 12:52:15 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:52:15 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
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Hi Eileen,

I deal with a company called LegalShield. I have not used them in this particular capacity, but they have been there for me in many other situations. What I like is even if my situation is not covered under there umbrella, they will refer you and a 25% discount comes with that.

I am actually a Senior Associate for the company and my information is below. Please feel free to contact me directly for more information. The best way to contact me presently is to call my cellular phone.

Thank you,
Walter Mitchell
LegalShield Independent Senior Associate
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free
(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line
(513) 582-8606 Cellular
(877) 226-5824 Fax
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Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:37 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen




From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 12:53:54 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:53:54 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
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Eileen,

     I don't know an attorney, but I understand your friend's issues.  My former colleague was involved in a horrible car accident and suffered a traumatic brain injury.  His family had to move him three times for just the same reasons as your friend is having to do.  His final move was to live with his son with 24-7 care.  It is sad what insurance regulations dictate.  

				Jamie
  



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 10:37 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen




From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Thu Jul 25 13:23:22 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 09:23:22 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <006901d5426c$18b58c70$4a20a550$@gmail.com>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>	<001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<001301d5418f$8bd52c70$a37f8550$@comcast.net>
	<006901d5426c$18b58c70$4a20a550$@gmail.com>
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Hello Walter,

I know enough people with neuropathy and am always interested in finding
solutions, as you never know when you might need one. I wish you continued
good luck with this treatment.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hello Jeanette,

I wouldn't wish the pain of neuropathy on my worst enemy. I hope and pray
that you never have to endure anything like it.

After trying it, I felt so good, I had to share what had just happened.
Thank you for even reading my testimony.

Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Well said, and I agree. Neuropathy is what scares me the most and motivates
me to be at least reasonably cautious when I make my choices.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:34 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hi Walter.
Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry this is your story to share. But
it's nice to hear how it goes when someone gets brave or desperate enough to
try something out of the ordinary. For some reason, that's the potential
complication that scares me the most. So it's good to read posts and know
that others are coping. I hope you were able to get some quality sleep and
that you can find some consistent relief in the future. Keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue;
a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 14:03:18 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 10:03:18 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!
In-Reply-To: <003901d542ec$22d13a30$6873ae90$@comcast.net>
References: <001201d54139$94038e60$bc0aab20$@gmail.com>	<001e01d5417c$c309fee0$491dfca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<001301d5418f$8bd52c70$a37f8550$@comcast.net>
	<006901d5426c$18b58c70$4a20a550$@gmail.com>
	<003901d542ec$22d13a30$6873ae90$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006a01d542f1$b6752620$235f7260$@gmail.com>

Thank you Jeanette,

I hope that the people you know find a solution as well, but I would be
happy to provide the salve to them thru my website once I get everything
setup. I will let you know when all is situated.


Sincerely,
Walter Mitchell
President/Owner, L2T Products and Services, LLC
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free
(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line
(877) 226-5824 Fax
www.L2Tpands.com Website

?From Logistics to Technology,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:23 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hello Walter,

I know enough people with neuropathy and am always interested in finding
solutions, as you never know when you might need one. I wish you continued
good luck with this treatment.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hello Jeanette,

I wouldn't wish the pain of neuropathy on my worst enemy. I hope and pray
that you never have to endure anything like it.

After trying it, I felt so good, I had to share what had just happened.
Thank you for even reading my testimony.

Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Well said, and I agree. Neuropathy is what scares me the most and motivates
me to be at least reasonably cautious when I make my choices.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:34 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Hi Walter.
Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry this is your story to share. But
it's nice to hear how it goes when someone gets brave or desperate enough to
try something out of the ordinary. For some reason, that's the potential
complication that scares me the most. So it's good to read posts and know
that others are coping. I hope you were able to get some quality sleep and
that you can find some consistent relief in the future. Keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:33 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org; NFB of Ohio, Diabetes Action Network List
Cc: Walter Mitchell; Kay.elizabeth.jordan at gmail.com; VaShaun jones Dialogue;
a.ogletree at l2tpands.com; Cmhodge65 at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Neuropathy, the monster in my life!

Greetings my Diabetic Friends and Family,

 

I had to tell this story because I am so greatful to God and the things he
provides to his people. . Please read below

 

It is about 4:30 a.m in Cincinnati and the temperature has drop to 62
degrees from 90 to 100 degrees. When a temperature change occurs like that,
my unwanted monster appears, Neuropathy. He showed it's ugly face around 2
am. I have been diagnosed with Chronic Inflamatory Demonstrative
Poly-Neuropathy (CIDP), which means to me that I have nerve pain in several
different places in my body, not sure what the medical profession's meaning
is. I am prescribed Oxycodone for the pain.

 

Well, this morning I tried another method to relieve my pain, CBD salve.
This is not a commercial or a marketing scheme, it really worked. I put some
on when the pain woke me up at 2 am and I could feel some relief in 10 to 15
minutes, by 3 am, 60 percent of my pain was gone., around 4 am I reapplied
some more  of the salve and now I feel very little pain at all.

 

Please understand that everyone's body is different and what may help me may
not work for you, but doctors have not been abled to control the pain from
Neuropathy in my book as of yet, and with the CBD salve I am now for the
most part out of pain without narcotics. I suggest to you that this product
is worth a try if you suffer with nerve pain.

 

I am an entrepreneur but I was lleary of all of the internet ads, so I tried
it on the worst pain that I have ever felt, and I'm sold. As soon as I can
work out a contract and the legalities of the CBD products, I will sale them
on my website.

 

And with that being said, I am on my way back to bed, something that would
not have been possible in 

the past, Thanks be to God!

 

 

Good Night!

Walter Mitchell

L2T Products and Services, LLC

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free

(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line

(877) 226-5824 Fax

www.L2Tpands.com <http://www.l2tpands.com/>  Website

 

"From Logistics to Technology,

We deliver Quality"!

 

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Jul 25 14:51:18 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 10:51:18 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
In-Reply-To: <004a01d542e7$c991c5b0$5cb55110$@gmail.com>
References: <735D3BE8094F4FB0AC94B060C088AC9C@eileen>
	<004a01d542e7$c991c5b0$5cb55110$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <251D525157B847F8BCFBCC86E34806F0@eileen>

Hi Walter,

Is this a plan that you signed up for and pay a monthly fee in the event you need to discuss legal issues with a lawyer? If it is, I think my friend is really looking for more specialized, specific help right now. 

Thanks much.

Eileen

From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:52 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Walter Mitchell 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi Eileen,

I deal with a company called LegalShield. I have not used them in this particular capacity, but they have been there for me in many other situations. What I like is even if my situation is not covered under there umbrella, they will refer you and a 25% discount comes with that.

I am actually a Senior Associate for the company and my information is below. Please feel free to contact me directly for more information. The best way to contact me presently is to call my cellular phone.

Thank you,
Walter Mitchell
LegalShield Independent Senior Associate
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101 Toll Free
(513) 655-2238 Local Direct Line
(513) 582-8606 Cellular
(877) 226-5824 Fax
wmitchell at L2Tpands.com Email
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 11:37 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Jul 25 14:53:44 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 10:53:44 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
In-Reply-To: <010801d542e8$04645db0$0d2d1910$@gmail.com>
References: <735D3BE8094F4FB0AC94B060C088AC9C@eileen>
	<010801d542e8$04645db0$0d2d1910$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E4A93D67657416EAD9D46B9186842C8@eileen>

Hi Jamie,

Exactly. This is also a traumatic brain injury brought on from surgery to remove a life-threatening tumor. Its been horrible what their family has gone through.

Eileen

From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:53 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Eileen,

     I don't know an attorney, but I understand your friend's issues.  My former colleague was involved in a horrible car accident and suffered a traumatic brain injury.  His family had to move him three times for just the same reasons as your friend is having to do.  His final move was to live with his son with 24-7 care.  It is sad what insurance regulations dictate.  

Jamie
  



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 10:37 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen


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From fidano at comcast.net  Thu Jul 25 15:16:17 2019
From: fidano at comcast.net (fidano at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:16:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
In-Reply-To: <735D3BE8094F4FB0AC94B060C088AC9C@eileen>
References: <735D3BE8094F4FB0AC94B060C088AC9C@eileen>
Message-ID: <004501d542fb$e8c644b0$ba52ce10$@comcast.net>

Your state should have a referral line from the State Bar, where you give them your legal matter and location and they will provide a name and number, typically the first half hour is $35 to see if the person will work out for you. And in Oregon I am allowed 3 referrals per year on same matter.
	Tamera

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:37 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen




From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 16:39:40 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:39:40 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>

Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to Mergatroid!!!


Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
> Cindy Lou
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
> 
> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up her
> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the back
> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds 200
> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her. But
> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1 diabetics
> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't tell
> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that response
> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..." Stammer
> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Thu Jul 25 17:29:52 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:29:52 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
Message-ID: <002c01d5430e$92695f40$b73c1dc0$@comcast.net>

Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
"assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.

Glad you are okay.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
Mergatroid!!!


Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
> Cindy Lou
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
> 
> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
her
> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
back
> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
200
> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
But
> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
diabetics
> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
tell
> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
response
> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
Stammer
> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Thu Jul 25 17:29:57 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:29:57 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>
	<D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>

Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
"assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.

Glad you are okay.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
Mergatroid!!!


Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
> Cindy Lou
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
> 
> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
her
> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
back
> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
200
> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
But
> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
diabetics
> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
tell
> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
response
> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
Stammer
> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 17:56:21 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?
In-Reply-To: <2E4A93D67657416EAD9D46B9186842C8@eileen>
References: <735D3BE8094F4FB0AC94B060C088AC9C@eileen>	<010801d542e8$04645db0$0d2d1910$@gmail.com>
	<2E4A93D67657416EAD9D46B9186842C8@eileen>
Message-ID: <014201d54312$4516eba0$cf44c2e0$@gmail.com>

We felt so bad for his family.  He was in a trauma center's rehab for months, had to move to another state to another facility and then moved to yet another state to a wonderful group home type living facility.  In this last setting, he was doing great and loved it there.  This accident took place three states from where we live, and the rehab facility close to home would not accept him as a patient for some reason.  When he had to leave this last facility, his son graciously took him in to live with him with 24-7 care.  Not everyone can do that though.  My colleague is mobile, but he just doesn't have the mental capacity to live alone again.  It is sad.

I hope your friend finds a solution that is best for both of them.  How old is she?  There are what is called an ombudsman for the elderly.  I'm not exactly sure what all they can do though, but they are supposed to help with issues like this.

				Jamie
   

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:54 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi Jamie,

Exactly. This is also a traumatic brain injury brought on from surgery to remove a life-threatening tumor. Its been horrible what their family has gone through.

Eileen

From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:53 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Eileen,

     I don't know an attorney, but I understand your friend's issues.  My former colleague was involved in a horrible car accident and suffered a traumatic brain injury.  His family had to move him three times for just the same reasons as your friend is having to do.  His final move was to live with his son with 24-7 care.  It is sad what insurance regulations dictate.  

Jamie
  



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 10:37 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorneys?

Hi All,

I?d like to know how someone goes about finding an attorney that offers representation when a person is having problems with Medicare coverage in New York State. I?m asking for a friend who needs a lot of rehab therapy after a serious surgery and keeps getting bounced out of one rehab facility after the other when a 21 day time period has been met. Its very difficult & stressful for the person?s spouse to deal with especially when they keep being told they might have to take their spouse home who is not well enough to be sent home. 

Thanks for any thoughts on the subject of finding legal representation.

Eileen


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From m.barber817 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 18:01:24 2019
From: m.barber817 at gmail.com (Michael Barber)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:01:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>
	<D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>
	<002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7165E546-AC9B-40F5-92F3-47A832214618@gmail.com>

I believe I?d have given that person a piece of my mind on that one.  I might have suggested they pay me for an additional sensor.


Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> com
>> 
>> 
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From cindyray at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 18:20:34 2019
From: cindyray at gmail.com (cindyray at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:20:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <7165E546-AC9B-40F5-92F3-47A832214618@gmail.com>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>	<D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>	<002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>
	<7165E546-AC9B-40F5-92F3-47A832214618@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01d001d54315$a71e6960$f55b3c20$@gmail.com>

How is it that people aren't aware in this day of pushing, shoving, molesting, etc. that it is a really bad idea to grab anyone. You can inadvertently hurt people and inadvertently put their lives at risk. This just never fails to make me a bit angry.
Cindy Lou


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 1:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Michael Barber <m.barber817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

I believe I?d have given that person a piece of my mind on that one.  I might have suggested they pay me for an additional sensor.


Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I was on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. 
> The person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my sensor for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just 
> said: "oh my God, my sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, 
> someone found it on the ground right near to me. I guess the lesson 
> learned is when traveling I need to make sure I take extra precautions 
> to make certain people aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now I am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch 
>> and in the bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing 
>> me. That is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch 
>> anyone without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea shirt. All of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from 
>> behind. Insert that voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of 
>> hesitant and whiny which tells us that trouble is about to strike big 
>> time. It's accompanied by that petting that's almost finger nail 
>> petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." 
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point she reached up and almost started to tug. I wish 
>> there was a way to spell the sound that came out of my mouth at that 
>> point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 18:29:28 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:29:28 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>	<D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>
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It sounds like these guides have not been properly trained in how to be a
sighted guide.  The blind individual is to hold on to the guide and not vice
versa.  A blind individual should never be dragged along by the sighted
guide.  

				Jamie


			

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
"assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.

Glad you are okay.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
Mergatroid!!!


Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
> now I am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch 
> and in the bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing 
> me. That is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch 
> anyone without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
> Cindy Lou
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
> 
> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea 
> shirt. All of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. 
> Insert that voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant 
> and whiny which tells us that trouble is about to strike big time. 
> It's accompanied by that petting that's almost finger nail petting, 
> like she can't quite make up
her
> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." 
> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. 
> At that point she reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there 
> was a way to spell the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. 
> You see, what was on the
back
> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
> holds
200
> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants
off of her.
But
> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted 
> in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
diabetics
> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
> didn't
tell
> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
response
> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
Stammer
> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just 
> never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. 
> Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Thu Jul 25 18:58:55 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 14:58:55 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <7165E546-AC9B-40F5-92F3-47A832214618@gmail.com>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>	<D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>	<002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>
	<7165E546-AC9B-40F5-92F3-47A832214618@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01d5431b$028423d0$078c6b70$@comcast.net>

When I was much younger I actually did that when someone ran over my cane and then got out of her car. But sometimes it is not worth the aggravation, and we all need to make choices at the time. I was close to the end of use, so I let it go.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

I believe I?d have given that person a piece of my mind on that one.  I might have suggested they pay me for an additional sensor.


Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Jul 25 20:24:45 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:24:45 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <000b01d5431b$028423d0$078c6b70$@comcast.net>
References: <000f01d54252$f39ef4d0$dadcde70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<00f101d54257$c8b2b2c0$5a181840$@gmail.com>	<D77AFC59-A09D-469A-8133-4A0CDDE905F0@gmail.com>	<002d01d5430e$952cec10$bf86c430$@comcast.net>	<7165E546-AC9B-40F5-92F3-47A832214618@gmail.com>
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Jeanette, I'm with you here. I think that if that woman had managed to dislodge my pod, I would have file a police report, just to get her attention. Although the noise I made when I first felt her actions was pretty impressive because it was super important to stop her. So to make my point, I did launch into my touch that and I die speech. But honestly, in this day and age, how is it that people don't get you just don't touch anyone without permission? Okay, it's because some people don't see us as adults and children don't have boundary rights. <evil snark.> 
But since no physical damage was done, as I continued on, just the idea was so stunning that it really did make me laugh.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

When I was much younger I actually did that when someone ran over my cane and then got out of her car. But sometimes it is not worth the aggravation, and we all need to make choices at the time. I was close to the end of use, so I let it go.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

I believe I?d have given that person a piece of my mind on that one.  I might have suggested they pay me for an additional sensor.


Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 25 21:26:36 2019
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (rshelton1 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:26:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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Ah yes. The ever popular ?human shield? technique for cited guide.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like these guides have not been properly trained in how to be a
> sighted guide.  The blind individual is to hold on to the guide and not vice
> versa.  A blind individual should never be dragged along by the sighted
> guide.  
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
>            
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
> Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:30 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now I am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch 
>> and in the bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing 
>> me. That is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch 
>> anyone without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea 
>> shirt. All of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. 
>> Insert that voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant 
>> and whiny which tells us that trouble is about to strike big time. 
>> It's accompanied by that petting that's almost finger nail petting, 
>> like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." 
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. 
>> At that point she reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there 
>> was a way to spell the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. 
>> You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants
> off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted 
>> in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just 
>> never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. 
>> Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Fri Jul 26 02:19:09 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 22:19:09 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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Veronica, since yours has Insulin, I think I would have done that speech. For me it just meant I had to rely on finger sticks in a situation where because I was out so much having the sensor would have been worlds easier. Still, next time I might take a lesson from you. Enough said. Glad neither of us was  harmed.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:25 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

Jeanette, I'm with you here. I think that if that woman had managed to dislodge my pod, I would have file a police report, just to get her attention. Although the noise I made when I first felt her actions was pretty impressive because it was super important to stop her. So to make my point, I did launch into my touch that and I die speech. But honestly, in this day and age, how is it that people don't get you just don't touch anyone without permission? Okay, it's because some people don't see us as adults and children don't have boundary rights. <evil snark.> 
But since no physical damage was done, as I continued on, just the idea was so stunning that it really did make me laugh.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

When I was much younger I actually did that when someone ran over my cane and then got out of her car. But sometimes it is not worth the aggravation, and we all need to make choices at the time. I was close to the end of use, so I let it go.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

I believe I?d have given that person a piece of my mind on that one.  I might have suggested they pay me for an additional sensor.


Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Jul 26 02:37:11 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 19:37:11 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
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Half jokingly, I thought about getting stickers made up that I could put on my pods which say, you touch, I die. I admit to having given that speech to my dog when she wonders if it's a cool play toy. <grin> Although truthfully, she's way more interested in the little Dexcom sensor. 
Ah life in the high tech diabetes world!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:19 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

Veronica, since yours has Insulin, I think I would have done that speech. For me it just meant I had to rely on finger sticks in a situation where because I was out so much having the sensor would have been worlds easier. Still, next time I might take a lesson from you. Enough said. Glad neither of us was  harmed.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:25 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

Jeanette, I'm with you here. I think that if that woman had managed to dislodge my pod, I would have file a police report, just to get her attention. Although the noise I made when I first felt her actions was pretty impressive because it was super important to stop her. So to make my point, I did launch into my touch that and I die speech. But honestly, in this day and age, how is it that people don't get you just don't touch anyone without permission? Okay, it's because some people don't see us as adults and children don't have boundary rights. <evil snark.> 
But since no physical damage was done, as I continued on, just the idea was so stunning that it really did make me laugh.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

When I was much younger I actually did that when someone ran over my cane and then got out of her car. But sometimes it is not worth the aggravation, and we all need to make choices at the time. I was close to the end of use, so I let it go.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Michael Barber
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

I believe I?d have given that person a piece of my mind on that one.  I might have suggested they pay me for an additional sensor.


Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.
> 
> Glad you are okay.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.
> 
> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
>> 
>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Jul 26 03:39:20 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:39:20 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medicare Attorney.
Message-ID: <359B2C0247AD4CBFA39F2AB633A10DDF@eileen>

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about how to go about finding a Medicare attorney. I passed along the information to my friend.

Here?s hoping it will help them out.

Eileen
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From magills at bigpond.com  Mon Jul 29 08:23:27 2019
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:23:27 +1000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
Message-ID: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>

Hi all,

 

Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
hypo.

 

When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
blood glucose falling.  

 

Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.

 

How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?

 

All comments most welcome.

 

Warm regards,

Paul in Australia

 

 

 



From gwocher at gwocher.com  Mon Jul 29 10:50:02 2019
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 06:50:02 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
In-Reply-To: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
References: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <66FEE4B7-6996-4456-B9D3-3D8E84C89CAD@gwocher.com>

Hello,
My doctor told me that if my sugar is between 50 and 70 to take something that has 15 carbs. Below 50 I double it to 30. I usually use apple juice for this. A 4ounce can of apple juice has roughly 15 carbs. So I drink 4 ounces for my sugar if it is above 50 and I drink 8 ounces if my sugar is below 50.

Greg Wocher


> On Jul 29, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
> my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
> hypo.
> 
> 
> 
> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
> system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
> have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
> blood glucose falling.  
> 
> 
> 
> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
> urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
> 
> 
> 
> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
> 
> 
> 
> All comments most welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Paul in Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 11:39:35 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 06:39:35 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
In-Reply-To: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
References: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <04e801d54602$4c8aa050$e59fe0f0$@gmail.com>

I use glucose tablets, since they get in to your system a lot quicker than
candy.   Most people tend to "treat" themselves to some kind of sweet, but I
don't like the extra fats and calories candy or a cookie has in it.
However, I do like an apple with peanut butter if my low is close to lunch.
I also carry the little pouches of fruit snacks with me, since they do a
good job of bringing up a low blood sugar.  They are pure corn syrup, and it
is crazy that we think they are good for our kids!  

  I am just very sensitive to rebound high blood sugars and am careful not
to over treat the blow blood sugar.    But, as Greg said, anything that has
15 grams of sugar will do the trick.  Here are some things that I have used
in the past.

A handful of some kind of dried fruit like raisins, pineapple (Dried fruit
is full of sugar)
Little boxes of yogurt covered raisins- they work great and seem to be kind
of a healthy option
Juice boxes that are made for kids, but are great for backpacks of
diabetics.
Hard candy that won't melt while in your backpack or purse (Nothing worse
than having a low blood sugar and having to work to unwrap a piece of candy
that is melted to the wrapper)

       

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Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

Hi all,

 

Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
hypo.

 

When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
blood glucose falling.  

 

Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.

 

How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?

 

All comments most welcome.

 

Warm regards,

Paul in Australia

 

 

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 15:37:03 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:37:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
In-Reply-To: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
References: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <0ba601d54623$790925e0$6b1b71a0$@gmail.com>

I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked for
me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 ounces of
juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some kind of protein
for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise BGs and the protein
help stabilize.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul
Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

Hi all,

 

Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
hypo.

 

When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
blood glucose falling.  

 

Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.

 

How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?

 

All comments most welcome.

 

Warm regards,

Paul in Australia

 

 

 

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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 16:09:20 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:09:20 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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References: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>
	<0ba601d54623$790925e0$6b1b71a0$@gmail.com>
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Good afternoon everyone.


I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.

Bern



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked for
> me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 ounces of
> juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some kind of protein
> for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise BGs and the protein
> help stabilize.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul
> Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
> my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
> hypo.
> 
> 
> 
> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
> system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
> have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
> blood glucose falling.  
> 
> 
> 
> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
> urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
> 
> 
> 
> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
> 
> 
> 
> All comments most welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Paul in Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Mon Jul 29 16:48:56 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:48:56 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
In-Reply-To: <EC8D4B8C-BBB6-4563-98A8-2E7DFBE291F2@gmail.com>
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	<EC8D4B8C-BBB6-4563-98A8-2E7DFBE291F2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DFCDEDA516F435893F049307D241BDE@eileen>

While juice is good, sometimes I find it upsets my stomach. Lately if my sugar goes low I?ll take a tablespoon of jam or preserves. It seems to work really fast in turning the low around. I just have to be careful not to over-treat the low which can be difficult especially if I am feeling really low or find the number is dropping quickly.

After having diabetes 51 years I find that it takes a longer time for the low to reverse. Because of that, I?ll always try to get a snack in while my sugar level is in a good low range.

Eileen

From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:09 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

Good afternoon everyone.


I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.

Bern



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked for
> me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 ounces of
> juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some kind of protein
> for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise BGs and the protein
> help stabilize.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul
> Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
> my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
> hypo.
> 
> 
> 
> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
> system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
> have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
> blood glucose falling.  
> 
> 
> 
> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
> urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
> 
> 
> 
> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
> 
> 
> 
> All comments most welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Paul in Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 18:08:43 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:08:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
In-Reply-To: <EC8D4B8C-BBB6-4563-98A8-2E7DFBE291F2@gmail.com>
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	<EC8D4B8C-BBB6-4563-98A8-2E7DFBE291F2@gmail.com>
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Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!

				Jamie
  

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Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

Good afternoon everyone.


I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.

Bern



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked 
> for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 
> ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some 
> kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise 
> BGs and the protein help stabilize.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
> turn around a hypo.
> 
> 
> 
> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
> 
> 
> 
> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
> 
> 
> 
> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
> 
> 
> 
> All comments most welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Paul in Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dianefilipe at comcast.net  Mon Jul 29 18:14:23 2019
From: dianefilipe at comcast.net (dianefilipe at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:14:23 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked 
>> for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 
>> ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some 
>> kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise 
>> BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 18:45:08 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:45:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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	<2DFCDEDA516F435893F049307D241BDE@eileen>
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Awwe Bridget,  never fear!! Gatorade works just as well!! No need to mess up your vegan just to have whole milk or half and half in the house. Gatorade works beautifully and only takes seven minutes.  My husband timed it one night when I was way, way down. It worked real slick.


Bern

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> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> While juice is good, sometimes I find it upsets my stomach. Lately if my sugar goes low I?ll take a tablespoon of jam or preserves. It seems to work really fast in turning the low around. I just have to be careful not to over-treat the low which can be difficult especially if I am feeling really low or find the number is dropping quickly.
> 
> After having diabetes 51 years I find that it takes a longer time for the low to reverse. Because of that, I?ll always try to get a snack in while my sugar level is in a good low range.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:09 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked for
>> me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 ounces of
>> juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some kind of protein
>> for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise BGs and the protein
>> help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul
>> Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more aware of
>> my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to turn around a
>> hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the American
>> system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 0.2 ounces, and
>> have been surprised that it seems to take about half an hour to stop the
>> blood glucose falling.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first alert, the
>> urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Jul 29 18:54:53 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:54:53 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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Laurel Creek Music Designs
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Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked 
>> for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 
>> ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some 
>> kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise 
>> BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 19:19:32 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:19:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
In-Reply-To: <006301d5463f$1b84a720$528df560$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004e01d545e6$e6250c80$b26f2580$@bigpond.com>	<0ba601d54623$790925e0$6b1b71a0$@gmail.com>	<EC8D4B8C-BBB6-4563-98A8-2E7DFBE291F2@gmail.com>	<055a01d54638$a8dbaee0$fa930ca0$@gmail.com>	<38F33E39-8C83-4FB7-AC51-CBB041D60850@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <057f01d54642$8d63a000$a82ae000$@gmail.com>

Veronica,

     I remember those BD tablets in the three pack.  I agree that they worked well, but I found them to upset my stomach.  Remember the tubes of the red gel?  I get nauseous just thinking about that stuff!  Of course, the gel was meant to squeeze between your cheek and gums if you were not able to swallow due to an extreme low.    I really like the Relion glucose tablets from Walmart in the Fruit Punch flavor.  I don't have any issues opening up the tube they come in, and I keep the large bottles of 50 with a screw top all over my house.  

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>> %
>> 40hotm
>> ail.com
>> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Mon Jul 29 19:59:54 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:59:54 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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Veronica,

On the topic of opening a glucose tab when your BG is low, I buy a tube/cylinder of tablets. Once the tablets from the tube are getting about half used, I buy large bottles of glucose tablets either from my local drugstore or grocery store (they both sell them in their own brands). Then I just keep refilling the tube to make carrying them around easy and simple to access should I need them when I?m out and about.

The original BD tablets are still packaged in the little plastics with the foil backing that you either need to punch or slice open. Not always easy to deal with especially when the BG is low. I actually just found two of those in a shoulder bag I haven?t used in a while. I wonder how longthey stay good for!

Then of course, I also keep a kind bar or two in my bag &/or a Quaker breakfast square that has apple cinnamon filling. Both of these take a bit longer to break down since they are either the nuts or a hole grain oatmeal. They are very yummie and a bit more substantial if I?m late with a meal.

The wrappers on both the bars & the squares rip off pretty easily too.

Eileen 

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked 
>> for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 
>> ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some 
>> kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise 
>> BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 22:31:17 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:31:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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Eileen,


That is exactly what I do. I always have some type of granola bar in my purse just in case I am super hungry and need a snack to hold me off until I get home. The tubes of glucose tablets are great, and I have bottles of glucose tablets all over the house.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica,
> 
> On the topic of opening a glucose tab when your BG is low, I buy a tube/cylinder of tablets. Once the tablets from the tube are getting about half used, I buy large bottles of glucose tablets either from my local drugstore or grocery store (they both sell them in their own brands). Then I just keep refilling the tube to make carrying them around easy and simple to access should I need them when I?m out and about.
> 
> The original BD tablets are still packaged in the little plastics with the foil backing that you either need to punch or slice open. Not always easy to deal with especially when the BG is low. I actually just found two of those in a shoulder bag I haven?t used in a while. I wonder how longthey stay good for!
> 
> Then of course, I also keep a kind bar or two in my bag &/or a Quaker breakfast square that has apple cinnamon filling. Both of these take a bit longer to break down since they are either the nuts or a hole grain oatmeal. They are very yummie and a bit more substantial if I?m late with a meal.
> 
> The wrappers on both the bars & the squares rip off pretty easily too.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Veronica Elsea 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
> Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
> Diane 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
>> 
>>               Jamie
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Good afternoon everyone.
>> 
>> 
>> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
>> 
>> Bern
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked 
>>> for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 
>>> ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some 
>>> kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise 
>>> BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>>> 
>>> Bridgit
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>>> turn around a hypo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
>>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All comments most welcome.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> 
>>> Paul in Australia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 22:45:48 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:45:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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We always have 8 oz. bottles of juice on hand. I keep a few in the night stand by my bed, and always carry at least one in my purse when out-and-about.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

Awwe Bridget,  never fear!! Gatorade works just as well!! No need to mess up your vegan just to have whole milk or half and half in the house. Gatorade works beautifully and only takes seven minutes.  My husband timed it one night when I was way, way down. It worked real slick.


Bern

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> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> While juice is good, sometimes I find it upsets my stomach. Lately if my sugar goes low I?ll take a tablespoon of jam or preserves. It seems to work really fast in turning the low around. I just have to be careful not to over-treat the low which can be difficult especially if I am feeling really low or find the number is dropping quickly.
> 
> After having diabetes 51 years I find that it takes a longer time for the low to reverse. Because of that, I?ll always try to get a snack in while my sugar level is in a good low range.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:09 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 22:48:53 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 17:48:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 23:11:58 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:11:58 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 5:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 29 23:43:20 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:43:20 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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You do have to chew the glucose tablets. Sucking them doesn?t get them into your system quickly enough.

Another trick a friend with long-term Type 1 gave me was to carry a little tube of lifesavers. The whole thing, chewed, gives you 15 grams of carb, they?re easy to carry in your purse till you need them, and some people like the flavor better than the glucose tablets.

Sandi


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From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 6:13 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 5:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:55 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Jul 29 23:53:55 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:53:55 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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I always chew mine. It never occurred to me to suck on them. But mine are 4 grams of carbs each. My brain has never quite made that switch. <grin>
As for juice, I'm just sure that if I tried that, it would break and I'd soak everything in my pack. <grin>
Veronica


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I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

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> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 00:20:07 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:20:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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Yeah, but they are advertised as being able to dissolve quickly just by placing them in your mouth. The whole point is that they are supposed to dissolve so when low, you don't have to chew or suck. But I've never experienced this at all. And they make my mouth really dry.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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Phone: 831-429-6407


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To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 00:22:57 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:22:57 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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Yep, I've always been told to carry a roll of Lifesavers too, but much like glucose tabs, they do not help raise my BGs. And BTW, I do chew glucose tabs; I just meant the only they dissolve for me is if I suck. But I stopped using tabs years ago because they don't help me when low. And again, they are advertised as being able to literally dissolve once hitting your mouth., so you don't have to chew if low enough. But this has never happened for me.

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You do have to chew the glucose tablets. Sucking them doesn?t get them into your system quickly enough.

Another trick a friend with long-term Type 1 gave me was to carry a little tube of lifesavers. The whole thing, chewed, gives you 15 grams of carb, they?re easy to carry in your purse till you need them, and some people like the flavor better than the glucose tablets.

Sandi


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I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


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With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

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I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

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> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
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> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
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>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 00:24:36 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:24:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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I carry plastic bottles of juice, not juice boxes. It would take quite a bit to break open a plastic bottle, grin. With kids, I generally have all manner of drinks and snacks though, smile.

Bridgit

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I always chew mine. It never occurred to me to suck on them. But mine are 4 grams of carbs each. My brain has never quite made that switch. <grin> As for juice, I'm just sure that if I tried that, it would break and I'd soak everything in my pack. <grin> Veronica


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I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


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With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

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I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

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> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
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> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Jul 30 00:33:00 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:33:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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And, those cylinders last forever. I only buy a new one when I mis-place the one I usually carry around with me. The large bottles are also pretty cheap as compared to buying a new tube of the things.

Eileen

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

Eileen,


That is exactly what I do. I always have some type of granola bar in my purse just in case I am super hungry and need a snack to hold me off until I get home. The tubes of glucose tablets are great, and I have bottles of glucose tablets all over the house.

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> On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica,
> 
> On the topic of opening a glucose tab when your BG is low, I buy a tube/cylinder of tablets. Once the tablets from the tube are getting about half used, I buy large bottles of glucose tablets either from my local drugstore or grocery store (they both sell them in their own brands). Then I just keep refilling the tube to make carrying them around easy and simple to access should I need them when I?m out and about.
> 
> The original BD tablets are still packaged in the little plastics with the foil backing that you either need to punch or slice open. Not always easy to deal with especially when the BG is low. I actually just found two of those in a shoulder bag I haven?t used in a while. I wonder how longthey stay good for!
> 
> Then of course, I also keep a kind bar or two in my bag &/or a Quaker breakfast square that has apple cinnamon filling. Both of these take a bit longer to break down since they are either the nuts or a hole grain oatmeal. They are very yummie and a bit more substantial if I?m late with a meal.
> 
> The wrappers on both the bars & the squares rip off pretty easily too.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:54 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Veronica Elsea 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
> Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
> Veronica
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
> Diane 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
>> 
>>               Jamie
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Good afternoon everyone.
>> 
>> 
>> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
>> 
>> Bern
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never worked 
>>> for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 to 8 
>>> ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with some 
>>> kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice raise 
>>> BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>>> 
>>> Bridgit
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>>> turn around a hypo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about 
>>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All comments most welcome.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> 
>>> Paul in Australia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul 30 01:41:02 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:41:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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Yes, but for me, boy that cap would come unscrewed in a heart beat. <laughing!> I guess I just resist getting my pack too bulky or heavy. The other thing I like about glucose is to be able to take a smaller amount and to know how much I took. As hopeless as I can be about eating, can't imagine trying to figure out if I drank half a bottle. But you know, famous last words, never say never. <grin> There comes a point where a long-term habit doesn't serve any more and then, some of us might be glad we read all the posts here. <grin>
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 5:25 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I carry plastic bottles of juice, not juice boxes. It would take quite a bit to break open a plastic bottle, grin. With kids, I generally have all manner of drinks and snacks though, smile.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I always chew mine. It never occurred to me to suck on them. But mine are 4 grams of carbs each. My brain has never quite made that switch. <grin> As for juice, I'm just sure that if I tried that, it would break and I'd soak everything in my pack. <grin> Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 4:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I think the reason they don't get in to you quickly is that you suck on them.  I chew mine.  Depending on how low I am determines if I eat one, two or three at a time.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 5:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

With the flavored glucose tablets in the tubes, 3 is equal to 15 grams of carbs. I've never found the tablets to dissolve quickly as advertised. They just sit in my mouth, actually making it dry, and I have to suck pretty hard on them before they start dissolving. The old BD tablets dissolved quicker, but still, I had to suck pretty hard. And for me, they have never brought my sugars up quick enough.

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From magills at bigpond.com  Tue Jul 30 13:22:59 2019
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 23:22:59 +1000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
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Thank you all so much for  all the ideas.

I found it is tricky to get the amount of glucose right.  At first I really over did it, and bounced back after an hour or more going way too high,  so reduced the number of glucose tabs, but did not know how long it should take to turn the low around, hence my query!

I'll try some of the suggestions, and see how it goes, hoping of course that the hypo's are as rare as I can manage. Smile.  And thanks for the advice about the Dexcom being a little behind the reality. 

The glucose tabs here are packaged in a cellulose like plastic bag, within a small cardboard box, which are easy enough to open when not in a hypo, but I did need to bight open the plastic bag once. Grimace.   They are marketed as energy boosters for sports people, no mention of diabetics.

Thanks again,
Paul in Australia.

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Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2019 4:55 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I have always used glucose tablets. Although I am beginning to think those old yucky BD tablets did a better job than the current flavored varieties. And Paul, I had your exact experience when I first started using the Dexcom as well. During those first couple of months I did overtreat a lot because the G5 is a few minutes behind what's actually happening. I have not been fond of the juices and things because I really want something that I can easily carry when I'm out. Also, when I'm low, I have more than the usual amount of trouble opening containers and things. That's really true with today's glucose tablets. I often wonder how many people have crashed while trying to open the package. I also find it hard to sometimes remember how many I've eaten. <grin> That was another plus for those old BD tablets, each worth 5 grams and came in 3-packs. 
Unfortunately this is really trial and error for each of us. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:14 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dianefilipe at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo

I go for juice. My mind is then racing so I drink the 8 ounce bottle.
Diane 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Maybe, I need to stop using glucose tablets then.  I always thought they would get in to my system quickly, since they don't need to be broken down.    When I am super low (below 40), I do tend to eat a few glucose tablets, wait and then eat one of the packets of fruit sancks if it hasn't gone up.  It goes up for sure after the fruit snacks!
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
> 
> Good afternoon everyone.
> 
> 
> I have been a diabetic since 1985. Like Bridget, I have found glucose tablets for all practical purposes, and effective for me. If I find that I have dropped and I am continuing to drop quickly, are use Gatorade. I buy the small 8 ounce bottles and drink those. It takes about seven minutes to work out of the low blood sugar. Sometimes 10 minutes. But, it is far quicker than glucose which has really never worked for me.  Another thing that used to work when I was pregnant, haven?t tried it since, however. Is whole milk.  I tend to think that is the lactose that brings me out of the low more quickly.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been diabetic for 33 years, and glucose tablets have never 
>> worked for me to turn a low blood sugar around. I always start with 6 
>> to 8 ounces of juice, wait about 15 minutes or so then follow up with 
>> some kind of protein for a snack if necessary. The carbs in the juice 
>> raise BGs and the protein help stabilize.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 3:23 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] What do people eat to turn around a hypo
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my Dexcom G5 a couple of months ago, I have become more 
>> aware of my body's response to what I eat, and how long it takes to 
>> turn around a hypo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I get the first low alert, 4.4 in our system, about 80 in the 
>> American system, I take 3 or 4 glucose tabs, 6 grams in total, about
>> 0.2 ounces, and have been surprised that it seems to take about half 
>> an hour to stop the blood glucose falling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sometimes, even though I have taken the glucose tabs at the first 
>> alert, the urgent alarm at the lower level can go off before the glucose tabs cut in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How much glucose, or something else, do people take to turn around a hypo?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All comments most welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Paul in Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Tue Jul 30 16:53:36 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:53:36 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
Message-ID: <dabfe9f2.1e56.4805.b4f7.fc550ac6a17d@samobile.net>

Oh wow glad you were alert to what was happening.
I am glad you are safe.
Interesting that they would see that.
So my cencer is under the sleeve and I don't think that anyone sees it.

Original message:
> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up her
> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the back
> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds 200
> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her. But
> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1 diabetics
> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't tell
> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that response
> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..." Stammer
> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 17:07:05 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:07:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <dabfe9f2.1e56.4805.b4f7.fc550ac6a17d@samobile.net>
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Difficult to not be alert to what is happening when someone touches you,
grin. I love how if someone touched an able-bodied person without
permission, it would be considered assault. But touching a disabled person
is considered acceptable. And if we tell them no, we are ingrates and made
to feel guilty for not wanting our person touched. Smirk.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:54 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Oh wow glad you were alert to what was happening.
I am glad you are safe.
Interesting that they would see that.
So my cencer is under the sleeve and I don't think that anyone sees it.

Original message:
> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea 
> shirt. All of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. 
> Insert that voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant 
> and whiny which tells us that trouble is about to strike big time. 
> It's accompanied by that petting that's almost finger nail petting, 
> like she can't quite make up her mind as to how fragile I might be. 
> "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I have to help you. You have 
> something stuck to your arm." Well, she was right. I did have 
> something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she reached up 
> and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the sound 
> that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the back 
> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
> holds 200 units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had 
> she succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
> pants off of her. But I did point out to her that this was assault 
> which would have resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up 
> the story of how type 1 diabetics will die when there's no insulin 
> being injected into the body. I didn't tell her how long it might take 
> us to die, of course. And you know that response you get, back to that 
> voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..." Stammer stutter, pause. 
> Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet she won't do 
> that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never occurred to me
that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun, those of you
wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From dmgina at mysero.net  Tue Jul 30 17:59:13 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:59:13 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
Message-ID: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/
Was glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt. All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Jul 30 19:30:16 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:30:16 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/
Was glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The person
> "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the ground
> right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling I need to
> make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people aren't that
> stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens to
> Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That is
>> certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone without
>> permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. My
>> guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's a warm
>> day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that voice
>> here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, Honey. I
>> have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." Well, she was
>> right. I did have something stuck to the back of my arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell the
>> sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she succeeded,
>> man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have resulted in
>> great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I bet
>> she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it just never
>> occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do that. Have fun,
>> those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 19:51:27 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>
	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." 
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Jul 30 21:09:16 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:09:16 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>
	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." 
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>> _______________________________________________
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul 30 21:45:53 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:45:53 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>
	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000601d54720$29bebfb0$7d3c3f10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I would have been skunked had that pod been pulled off. I was just going for
a walk so no good place for doing the complex pod change process. If I'm out
all day, I will sometimes toss a backup pen in my pack just in case though.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm." 
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 22:24:19 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:24:19 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>
	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 22:26:33 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:26:33 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <000601d54720$29bebfb0$7d3c3f10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>
	<000601d54720$29bebfb0$7d3c3f10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <01d801d54725$d812cb10$88386130$@gmail.com>

I have a script on file for pens, but my insurance has been weird about
letting me have a pen in addition to vials for filling reserveroirs. My endo
made a case a few years ago, but since it's not been a problem, I've let it
slide. But I do always have the thought in the back of my mind what if, and
I don't have a pen on hand, not even at home.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I would have been skunked had that pod been pulled off. I was just going for
a walk so no good place for doing the complex pod change process. If I'm out
all day, I will sometimes toss a backup pen in my pack just in case though.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>> _______________________________________________
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Jul 30 22:54:00 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:54:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>
	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Jul 30 22:51:35 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:51:35 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <01d801d54725$d812cb10$88386130$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<000601d54720$29bebfb0$7d3c3f10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<01d801d54725$d812cb10$88386130$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d54729$572e21d0$058a6570$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Fortunately or unfortunately, because it's such a different type of pump,
Omnipod users always get scripts for backup pens. I keep meaning to see if I
can actually fill a pod directly from a pen but haven't tried it yet. It
would be kind of cool if it worked. Hmmm, think I'll search and see if
anyone else does it. 
And by the way, I really like the overpatches for the G6. Even if part of it
starts to come loose, my sensors are always making it the full ten days. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:27 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I have a script on file for pens, but my insurance has been weird about
letting me have a pen in addition to vials for filling reserveroirs. My endo
made a case a few years ago, but since it's not been a problem, I've let it
slide. But I do always have the thought in the back of my mind what if, and
I don't have a pen on hand, not even at home.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I would have been skunked had that pod been pulled off. I was just going for
a walk so no good place for doing the complex pod change process. If I'm out
all day, I will sometimes toss a backup pen in my pack just in case though.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>> _______________________________________________
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 23:26:22 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:26:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>
	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000701d5472e$340ca7d0$9c25f770$@gmail.com>

I bought mine from amazon for the dexcom g5 transmitters and senssors. Let
me look and see if I can locate it from my purchased list . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From joystigile at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 23:32:53 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:32:53 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
 morning.and overlay patches are free!
Message-ID: <006b01d5472f$1cb2c2d0$56184870$@gmail.com>

Hi Gary,
Dexcom gives them away for free!  I would suggest to you that you call them
and have them delivered for free.  Even though you buy the Dexcom G5 else
where they would still give them to you.
Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I bought mine from amazon for the dexcom g5 transmitters and senssors. Let
me look and see if I can locate it from my purchased list . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 01:03:17 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:03:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>
	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>

Can't tell you the brand. I order directly from Dexcom, and I'm not charged.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From joystigile at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 02:02:27 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:02:27 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
	<020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008901d54744$01d9d920$058d8b60$@gmail.com>

Hi Jeannette,
They are free from Dexcom and the name is "Over lay" patch!
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Can't tell you the brand. I order directly from Dexcom, and I'm not charged.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:

>
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Wed Jul 31 12:40:12 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 08:40:12 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
	<020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002e01d5479d$19bbbff0$4d333fd0$@comcast.net>

Thank you. My guess is because they are from them I may not be able to get
them, but perhaps I can find out what they are and see about paying for
some. Have a great day.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Can't tell you the brand. I order directly from Dexcom, and I'm not charged.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Wed Jul 31 12:40:31 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 08:40:31 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <008901d54744$01d9d920$058d8b60$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>	<020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>
	<008901d54744$01d9d920$058d8b60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002f01d5479d$24bcd3d0$6e367b70$@comcast.net>

Thank you. I will investigate from there.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:02 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Joy Stigile
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Hi Jeannette,
They are free from Dexcom and the name is "Over lay" patch!
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Can't tell you the brand. I order directly from Dexcom, and I'm not charged.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul 31 20:45:02 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:45:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <000701d5472e$340ca7d0$9c25f770$@gmail.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>
	<000701d5472e$340ca7d0$9c25f770$@gmail.com>
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Dexcom will give them to Dexcom users for free. 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I bought mine from amazon for the dexcom g5 transmitters and senssors. Let
me look and see if I can locate it from my purchased list . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Jul 31 20:47:00 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:47:00 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <002f01d5479d$24bcd3d0$6e367b70$@comcast.net>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>	<020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>	<008901d54744$01d9d920$058d8b60$@gmail.com>
	<002f01d5479d$24bcd3d0$6e367b70$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <007d01d547e1$19d01a60$4d704f20$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

They are technically called overpatch and they are specifically made for the
G5 or G6 CGM. Omnipod has overlays that fit its pods. Libre should be
offering them to you. If not, guess you get what you pay for, sometimes. 
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:41 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Thank you. I will investigate from there.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:02 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Joy Stigile
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Hi Jeannette,
They are free from Dexcom and the name is "Over lay" patch!
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Can't tell you the brand. I order directly from Dexcom, and I'm not charged.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
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Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

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m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Wed Jul 31 21:12:27 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 17:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.
In-Reply-To: <007d01d547e1$19d01a60$4d704f20$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <848bc26e.7ddd.48bd.a6e0.c1fcd4e540f1@samobile.net>	<003001d5470d$3ea31600$bbe94200$@comcast.net>	<01b801d54710$2d65e900$8831bb00$@gmail.com>	<004601d5471b$12fbab30$38f30190$@comcast.net>	<01d701d54725$8847da30$98d78e90$@gmail.com>	<000301d54729$b16ba230$1442e690$@comcast.net>	<020801d5473b$bdb4c140$391e43c0$@gmail.com>	<008901d54744$01d9d920$058d8b60$@gmail.com>	<002f01d5479d$24bcd3d0$6e367b70$@comcast.net>
	<007d01d547e1$19d01a60$4d704f20$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d547e4$a8dda030$fa98e090$@comcast.net>

Veronica, Abbott/Libre owners discourage any kind of overlays and only
support using this "tachy white" under the sensors. I am hoping as more
people send back defective sensors they wil reassess overlays.

Thank you,

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:47 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

They are technically called overpatch and they are specifically made for the
G5 or G6 CGM. Omnipod has overlays that fit its pods. Libre should be
offering them to you. If not, guess you get what you pay for, sometimes. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:41 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Thank you. I will investigate from there.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:02 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Joy Stigile
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Hi Jeannette,
They are free from Dexcom and the name is "Over lay" patch!
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Can't tell you the brand. I order directly from Dexcom, and I'm not charged.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, which stick overlay do you have and where do you purchase it from?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't use the sticky overlay for sensors until this summer. Since I'm
outside a lot and sweat more than usual, especially when running or
swimming, and also with swimming, being submerged in water, I'm using them
as added protection. But in terms of the sensor hitting something and coming
out, I've not had problems with that. But the overlays can definitely help.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Bridgit, do you use tape to provide extra insurance that your censors won't
dislodge. This is the real problem for me. Abbott doesn't recommend tape at
all, and only suggests using "tachy white" under the censor, but this is an
inadequate solution in situations where censors can be dislodged.

I did have another one, but thought it could come off as well as I would be
in crowded environments, so went with Plan B for a few days.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

At least when we lose a Dexcom or Libre sensor, it's not like we are
rendered incapable of getting our BGs. It's frustrating and annoying, but we
can still test manually. But if you lose something involving your insulin
pump, depending on the circumstances, it can be a bigger deal. I usually
carry an extra canula with me when out-and-about just in case so if
something happens, I can replace it right away. But if something happens to
my pump, that's a problem; a big one. Or if you forget to bring extra pump
supplies, it can impact actual BGs. I always encourage people to carry extra
pump supplies. I just keep a canula in my bag at all times. Likewise, with
Dexcom and Libre, I have an extra sensor in my bag when traveling or leaving
the house. The only exception is if I'm just out running quick errands or
something like that. But if I plan to be gone longer than a couple of hours,
I bring all necessary supplies.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette
Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

I didn't buy another one as the logistics made it not practical at the time.
I just applied a new one when I could.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:59 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this
morning.

Did you have to buy another one, or just wait unti this one was over/ Was
glad this didn't happen to me while traveling on the buss.

Original message:
> Veronica, interesting that you should share this story. Twoo weeks ago 
> I
was
> on a bus filled with Blind people who were going to an event. The 
> person "assisting" grabbed me by the arm so forcefully that he 
> dislodged my
sensor
> for the Free Style Libre. I was so shocked I just said: "oh my God, my 
> sensor is no longer on my arm. Sure enough, someone found it on the 
> ground right near to me. I guess the lesson learned is when traveling 
> I need to make sure I take extra precautions to make certain people 
> aren't that stupid, and even then, by your experience, there are no
guarantees.

> Glad you are okay.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this 
> morning.

> Oh my word!!!  So, from which institution did she escape???  Heavens 
> to Mergatroid!!!


> Bern

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Cindy Ray via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> That is just pure insanity. I cannot believe it. I really can't, but 
>> now
I
>> am more sure than ever that someone saw my air pods in my pouch and 
>> in
the
>> bathroom at a rest stop helped herself to them by grabbing me. That 
>> is certainly not as serious, but people shouldn't even touch anyone 
>> without permission, let alone doing what she did to you.
>> Cindy Lou


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Veronica
>> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Can't believe what almost happened this morning.

>> Oh my word! I can't believe what almost happened to me this morning. 
>> My guide dog and I were happily walking through my neighborhood. It's 
>> a warm day, for us anyway, and I was wearing my Occidental College 
>> tea
shirt.
All
>> of a sudden I heard this woman approach me from behind. Insert that 
>> voice here. That female voice that sounds kind of hesitant and whiny 
>> which
tells
>> us that trouble is about to strike big time. It's accompanied by that 
>> petting that's almost finger nail petting, like she can't quite make 
>> up
> her
>> mind as to how fragile I might be. "Honey, honey. Wait a minute, 
>> Honey. I have to help you. You have something stuck to your arm."
>> Well, she was right. I did have something stuck to the back of my 
>> arm. At that point
she
>> reached up and almost started to tug. I wish there was a way to spell 
>> the sound that came out of my mouth at that point. You see, what was 
>> on the
> back
>> of my arm is the pod. It's part of my insulin pump, the part that 
>> holds
> 200
>> units of insulin and actually injects it into my body. Had she 
>> succeeded, man, I'm sure the ensuing alarms would have scared the 
>> pants
off of her.
> But
>> I did point out to her that this was assault which would have 
>> resulted in great bodily harm. I then really built up the story of 
>> how type 1
> diabetics
>> will die when there's no insulin being injected into the body. I 
>> didn't
> tell
>> her how long it might take us to die, of course. And you know that
> response
>> you get, back to that voice again, I didn't mean, I didn't mean..."
> Stammer
>> stutter, pause. Yes you did, was my reply Then she disappeared. But I 
>> bet she won't do that again. Unreal! Glad nothing happened but it 
>> just never occurred to me that someone would actually come up and do 
>> that. Have fun, those of you wearing the Libre. <grin.> Welcome to
summer!

>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available
> on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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