From dmgina at mysero.net  Fri Feb  1 23:06:57 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 18:06:57 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] diabetic coordinator
Message-ID: <c44c8fba.88a6.48a8.b215.814f837dba11@samobile.net>

I called over to leave a message with Lisa Murray.
I don't think I will get a call today where next week I could.
My nurse shared she would know more on behalf of the dex com six.
I also asked how I could find out how much medicare would pay.
I am hoping she can find that out for me.
I took the first step.
Thanks for your help.

-- 
--Dar
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every sinner has a future



From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 01:23:19 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
Message-ID: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>

Hi all:
I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
Any other things I should know?
How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
:)
Amber


From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 02:24:34 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:24:34 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
References: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>

Amber,


I know many of us will chime in here on what we do for traveling and eating out. I am probably not as discreet as some people are, since I had no problem breast-feeding my son nor taking my insulin in public! Now that I have an insulin pump, it is not a problem taking my insulin just as my food arrives. When I used a Nova-pen, I just quickly pulled up my shirt and quickly gave my shot into my stomach. If you are wearing a dress or something that you can?t expose your abdomen with, then going into the bathroom would be the best solution. Of course, you also don?t want to give your injection in front of people you don?t really know.

As for the airport, you never want to go through any scanner. Always asked to be patted down. You also don?t want your extra sensors to go through the X ? Ray, so you are supposed to take them out of your baggage. I never had any issues with packing my extra sensors in my luggage. 

When keeping your extra insulin cool on the plane, make sure you use a cold pack that is clearly labeled as a freezer or cold pack. You also want to keep it in a separate zip lock bag that you can take out of your Kari ? on and put in the tub when going through security. When in a hotel, you can request a refrigerator for your room. 

Much like traveling with children, you always want to make sure you have plenty of snacks and glucose tablets with you. I always keep a tube of glucose tablet on me during the flight. There is nothing worse than having a low blood sugar during take-.off or landing and not having access to all of the candy in your Kari ? on! That only had to happen to me once for me to learn to carry glucose tablets on me during the flight.

As for the Dexcom during flight, you have to always turn your cell ? phone on airplane mode. That will disconnect Bluetooth. Once you are seated, I turn airplane mode on and then go into settings and turn Bluetooth back on. I never shut down my phone, since I need to know what my blood sugar is at all times.

I hope I answered most of your questions. Please feel free to ask more. Others may have different ways of managing things that you may also find helpful.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  2 03:11:25 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 19:11:25 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>
References: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
	<DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001801d4baa4$fbac6850$f30538f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Amber, as for taking insulin in public, that is one of the things that initially drove me to use an insulin pump. But apparently, many people just take it right at the table, quickly lifting up a shirt and giving the injection. Half the places I go, I can't seem to find the bathrooms anyway. <grin> 
And these days, most hotel rooms have small refrigerrators in them without us even asking. Frankly, I don't worry about keeping insulin cold on a flight. You can actually keep it at room temperature for up to 30 days, so I just never fussed about this much. After all, it's sure not cold in my pump. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 6:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Amber,


I know many of us will chime in here on what we do for traveling and eating out. I am probably not as discreet as some people are, since I had no problem breast-feeding my son nor taking my insulin in public! Now that I have an insulin pump, it is not a problem taking my insulin just as my food arrives. When I used a Nova-pen, I just quickly pulled up my shirt and quickly gave my shot into my stomach. If you are wearing a dress or something that you can?t expose your abdomen with, then going into the bathroom would be the best solution. Of course, you also don?t want to give your injection in front of people you don?t really know.

As for the airport, you never want to go through any scanner. Always asked to be patted down. You also don?t want your extra sensors to go through the X ? Ray, so you are supposed to take them out of your baggage. I never had any issues with packing my extra sensors in my luggage. 

When keeping your extra insulin cool on the plane, make sure you use a cold pack that is clearly labeled as a freezer or cold pack. You also want to keep it in a separate zip lock bag that you can take out of your Kari ? on and put in the tub when going through security. When in a hotel, you can request a refrigerator for your room. 

Much like traveling with children, you always want to make sure you have plenty of snacks and glucose tablets with you. I always keep a tube of glucose tablet on me during the flight. There is nothing worse than having a low blood sugar during take-.off or landing and not having access to all of the candy in your Kari ? on! That only had to happen to me once for me to learn to carry glucose tablets on me during the flight.

As for the Dexcom during flight, you have to always turn your cell ? phone on airplane mode. That will disconnect Bluetooth. Once you are seated, I turn airplane mode on and then go into settings and turn Bluetooth back on. I never shut down my phone, since I need to know what my blood sugar is at all times.

I hope I answered most of your questions. Please feel free to ask more. Others may have different ways of managing things that you may also find helpful.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 03:21:10 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 21:21:10 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <001801d4baa4$fbac6850$f30538f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
	<DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>
	<001801d4baa4$fbac6850$f30538f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <2F78BD8E-7D65-4C8E-80EF-5542B51B78F2@gmail.com>

Veronica is correct about keeping the insulin cold. I only worry about taking a cold pack when I am traveling during the summer.


     Jamie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Amber, as for taking insulin in public, that is one of the things that initially drove me to use an insulin pump. But apparently, many people just take it right at the table, quickly lifting up a shirt and giving the injection. Half the places I go, I can't seem to find the bathrooms anyway. <grin> 
> And these days, most hotel rooms have small refrigerrators in them without us even asking. Frankly, I don't worry about keeping insulin cold on a flight. You can actually keep it at room temperature for up to 30 days, so I just never fussed about this much. After all, it's sure not cold in my pump. 
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 6:25 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
> 
> Amber,
> 
> 
> I know many of us will chime in here on what we do for traveling and eating out. I am probably not as discreet as some people are, since I had no problem breast-feeding my son nor taking my insulin in public! Now that I have an insulin pump, it is not a problem taking my insulin just as my food arrives. When I used a Nova-pen, I just quickly pulled up my shirt and quickly gave my shot into my stomach. If you are wearing a dress or something that you can?t expose your abdomen with, then going into the bathroom would be the best solution. Of course, you also don?t want to give your injection in front of people you don?t really know.
> 
> As for the airport, you never want to go through any scanner. Always asked to be patted down. You also don?t want your extra sensors to go through the X ? Ray, so you are supposed to take them out of your baggage. I never had any issues with packing my extra sensors in my luggage. 
> 
> When keeping your extra insulin cool on the plane, make sure you use a cold pack that is clearly labeled as a freezer or cold pack. You also want to keep it in a separate zip lock bag that you can take out of your Kari ? on and put in the tub when going through security. When in a hotel, you can request a refrigerator for your room. 
> 
> Much like traveling with children, you always want to make sure you have plenty of snacks and glucose tablets with you. I always keep a tube of glucose tablet on me during the flight. There is nothing worse than having a low blood sugar during take-.off or landing and not having access to all of the candy in your Kari ? on! That only had to happen to me once for me to learn to carry glucose tablets on me during the flight.
> 
> As for the Dexcom during flight, you have to always turn your cell ? phone on airplane mode. That will disconnect Bluetooth. Once you are seated, I turn airplane mode on and then go into settings and turn Bluetooth back on. I never shut down my phone, since I need to know what my blood sugar is at all times.
> 
> I hope I answered most of your questions. Please feel free to ask more. Others may have different ways of managing things that you may also find helpful.
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
>> Any other things I should know?
>> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
>> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
>> :)
>> Amber
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 03:57:45 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 21:57:45 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
References: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1b1e01d4baab$74db9ab0$5e92d010$@gmail.com>

You can have your doctor write a letter of travel if you want, but it's not necessary. For prescriptions, they have to be in their original bottles and in a plastic or clear bag so TSA can check them. I keep mine right in my carry-on. CGMs cannot go through metal detectors, so you have to be pat down, and you need to let TSA know beforehand.

Most hotels these days provide fridges in rooms, but I always check. If they don't, usually you can rent one for a fee. To my knowledge, needing a fridge for medicine doesn't negate a fee a hotel may charge for it.

As for needing to eat/take insulin in public, that's up to you. When I took injections (I've been on a pump for 15 years now) I just took my shots right in public, but if you're more comfortable doing so in private, that's your choice. But nothing says you can't do it in public if you want. It's no different than someone needing to take a pill in public. As far as eating, I assume you mean if you need to treat a low, and again, I take care of that wherever I am. If I need to chug a juice in public, I do so. If I'm at a place where food and drinks is not allowed, I let the proper people know ahead of time that I'm diabetic and might need a snack in case of a low blood sugar.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 7:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Hi all:
I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
Any other things I should know?
How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
:)
Amber
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 03:59:44 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 21:59:44 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>
References: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>
	<DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1b1f01d4baab$bb88b6a0$329a23e0$@gmail.com>

Jamie,

LOL! I also breast fed right in public, ha! And I never cared much if anyone saw me test or take shots in public either, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 8:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Amber,


I know many of us will chime in here on what we do for traveling and eating out. I am probably not as discreet as some people are, since I had no problem breast-feeding my son nor taking my insulin in public! Now that I have an insulin pump, it is not a problem taking my insulin just as my food arrives. When I used a Nova-pen, I just quickly pulled up my shirt and quickly gave my shot into my stomach. If you are wearing a dress or something that you can?t expose your abdomen with, then going into the bathroom would be the best solution. Of course, you also don?t want to give your injection in front of people you don?t really know.

As for the airport, you never want to go through any scanner. Always asked to be patted down. You also don?t want your extra sensors to go through the X ? Ray, so you are supposed to take them out of your baggage. I never had any issues with packing my extra sensors in my luggage. 

When keeping your extra insulin cool on the plane, make sure you use a cold pack that is clearly labeled as a freezer or cold pack. You also want to keep it in a separate zip lock bag that you can take out of your Kari ? on and put in the tub when going through security. When in a hotel, you can request a refrigerator for your room. 

Much like traveling with children, you always want to make sure you have plenty of snacks and glucose tablets with you. I always keep a tube of glucose tablet on me during the flight. There is nothing worse than having a low blood sugar during take-.off or landing and not having access to all of the candy in your Kari ? on! That only had to happen to me once for me to learn to carry glucose tablets on me during the flight.

As for the Dexcom during flight, you have to always turn your cell ? phone on airplane mode. That will disconnect Bluetooth. Once you are seated, I turn airplane mode on and then go into settings and turn Bluetooth back on. I never shut down my phone, since I need to know what my blood sugar is at all times.

I hope I answered most of your questions. Please feel free to ask more. Others may have different ways of managing things that you may also find helpful.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 04:00:53 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:00:53 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <001801d4baa4$fbac6850$f30538f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <1ED3D874-A681-4901-9E36-32F9836E335D@gmail.com>	<DDD7D183-5467-47F9-B202-2518F3AE5EAB@gmail.com>
	<001801d4baa4$fbac6850$f30538f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <1b2001d4baab$e50bd980$af238c80$@gmail.com>

Agree with Veronica about keeping insulin cold while in transit. I usually pack it somewhere safe and just put in a fridge once I'm at my destination.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 9:11 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Amber, as for taking insulin in public, that is one of the things that initially drove me to use an insulin pump. But apparently, many people just take it right at the table, quickly lifting up a shirt and giving the injection. Half the places I go, I can't seem to find the bathrooms anyway. <grin> And these days, most hotel rooms have small refrigerrators in them without us even asking. Frankly, I don't worry about keeping insulin cold on a flight. You can actually keep it at room temperature for up to 30 days, so I just never fussed about this much. After all, it's sure not cold in my pump. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 6:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Amber,


I know many of us will chime in here on what we do for traveling and eating out. I am probably not as discreet as some people are, since I had no problem breast-feeding my son nor taking my insulin in public! Now that I have an insulin pump, it is not a problem taking my insulin just as my food arrives. When I used a Nova-pen, I just quickly pulled up my shirt and quickly gave my shot into my stomach. If you are wearing a dress or something that you can?t expose your abdomen with, then going into the bathroom would be the best solution. Of course, you also don?t want to give your injection in front of people you don?t really know.

As for the airport, you never want to go through any scanner. Always asked to be patted down. You also don?t want your extra sensors to go through the X ? Ray, so you are supposed to take them out of your baggage. I never had any issues with packing my extra sensors in my luggage. 

When keeping your extra insulin cool on the plane, make sure you use a cold pack that is clearly labeled as a freezer or cold pack. You also want to keep it in a separate zip lock bag that you can take out of your Kari ? on and put in the tub when going through security. When in a hotel, you can request a refrigerator for your room. 

Much like traveling with children, you always want to make sure you have plenty of snacks and glucose tablets with you. I always keep a tube of glucose tablet on me during the flight. There is nothing worse than having a low blood sugar during take-.off or landing and not having access to all of the candy in your Kari ? on! That only had to happen to me once for me to learn to carry glucose tablets on me during the flight.

As for the Dexcom during flight, you have to always turn your cell ? phone on airplane mode. That will disconnect Bluetooth. Once you are seated, I turn airplane mode on and then go into settings and turn Bluetooth back on. I never shut down my phone, since I need to know what my blood sugar is at all times.

I hope I answered most of your questions. Please feel free to ask more. Others may have different ways of managing things that you may also find helpful.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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From airadil at dslextreme.com  Sat Feb  2 04:27:08 2019
From: airadil at dslextreme.com (Estelnalissi)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:27:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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Dear Amber,

Docs, nurses, educators differ, I'm just sharing that my Indo's nurse 
practitioner told me to inject my humolog 30 minutes before eating. I've 
injected discreetly in the car if I'm with friends, or in the restroom 
before ordering. It fits in nicely to do it while waiting for a table. I'm 
still too sugary to worry about my bg going too low if the meal takes longer 
than a half hour to arrive.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 8:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Hi all:
I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I 
should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a 
doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about 
needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I 
will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I 
get a small fridge?
Any other things I should know?
How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right 
before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
:)
Amber
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb  2 05:41:44 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 00:41:44 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
Message-ID: <18fa0818.b908.4fab.8b9c.222f71c7a5cc@samobile.net>

One of the worst places is the bathroom.
You don't know how clean it is.
I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the 
back of a table then I do my shot there.
Either in the tummy or the arm.
This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
That helps out lots.
In the room for the most time is a fridge.
That helps.
Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
Oh me that wouldn't be good.
Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
I don't eat the large ones.
Leave that for my husband loll.
Just be you, listen to your body.
They say eat something every four hours.
A small snack anything like that.
I hope this helps.

Original message:
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some 
> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have 
> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you 
> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through 
> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my 
> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  
> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Sat Feb  2 14:03:20 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 09:03:20 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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Tell them you have a descom or whatever you use. They will not accept a doctor's note, but apparently the scanners are less harmful than the metal detectors, and worst case if people tell you the dexcom should not go through a scanner, they have this stuff that they can use to check computers, shoes, and I am sure your Dexcom. It is a cloth or a roller, depending on the item and I've had them used on me with no ill effect to me or my equipment. You won't get hassled about your insulin or needles but have them where they can see them. I put them in a quart plastic bag and have no issues. Also, good protein bars can be packed in our carry on or your check-in bag.

Jeanette 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 12:42 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

One of the worst places is the bathroom.
You don't know how clean it is.
I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the 
back of a table then I do my shot there.
Either in the tummy or the arm.
This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
That helps out lots.
In the room for the most time is a fridge.
That helps.
Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
Oh me that wouldn't be good.
Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
I don't eat the large ones.
Leave that for my husband loll.
Just be you, listen to your body.
They say eat something every four hours.
A small snack anything like that.
I hope this helps.

Original message:
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some 
> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have 
> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you 
> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through 
> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my 
> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  
> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 17:31:28 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:31:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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	<186A93E9692B4B699F3780DF9202B9BF@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1b6901d4bb1d$220007a0$660016e0$@gmail.com>

Yes, it not only depends on your endo, but the rest of your health and how you process carbs. I haven't been told to bolus before a meals in decades. First, I don't always eat a set carb amount at a given meal, often not finishing my food, so pre-bolusing would get me in trouble. And in fact, I often need to wait 30 minutes or so before bolusing after eating carbs because insulin acts fastly in my body, but carbs don't digest at the same rate, so I've experienced lows a lot if I bolus right after eating. So it really depends on the individual in terms of prebolusing.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 10:27 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Estelnalissi <airadil at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Dear Amber,

Docs, nurses, educators differ, I'm just sharing that my Indo's nurse practitioner told me to inject my humolog 30 minutes before eating. I've injected discreetly in the car if I'm with friends, or in the restroom before ordering. It fits in nicely to do it while waiting for a table. I'm still too sugary to worry about my bg going too low if the meal takes longer than a half hour to arrive.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 8:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Hi all:
I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
Any other things I should know?
How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
:)
Amber
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 17:35:11 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:35:11 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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Dar,

I just want to clarify that a CGM does not give insulin but just test blood sugars. An insulin pump would deliver insulin, but not A CGM, which Dexcom is a CGM.

If you take an injection in the bathroom, you really don't have to set anything down, especially with insulin pens these days. Some people are more comfortable taking injections discreetly.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 11:42 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

One of the worst places is the bathroom.
You don't know how clean it is.
I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the back of a table then I do my shot there.
Either in the tummy or the arm.
This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
That helps out lots.
In the room for the most time is a fridge.
That helps.
Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
Oh me that wouldn't be good.
Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
I don't eat the large ones.
Leave that for my husband loll.
Just be you, listen to your body.
They say eat something every four hours.
A small snack anything like that.
I hope this helps.

Original message:
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some 
> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have 
> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you 
> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through 
> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my 
> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin 
> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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> sero.net

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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 20:08:36 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 15:08:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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	<001801d4baa4$fbac6850$f30538f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Amber:

I do pretty much what everyone else has been doing on here thus far.  I not only have my sensors to be concerned with, I had a knee replacement nearly three years ago now, so my titanium would set off their alarms for sure.  I have to be patted down.I actually carry a special identificaiton card with me that lists the knee where I had the surgery done; the name of the surgeon; and the date and time it was completed.  I can?t believe I would have any issues with packing sensors in my luggage.  But I would be carrying my insulin, needles, and such, in my ?medical? carry on.  As Bridget ad Veronica would do, I just keep the insulin in my carry on as the trips are relatively short and the airports and planes are air conditioned anyway.  I just refrigerate the insulin whenever I get to my destination.  More and more hotels have refrigerators in the rooms now anyway.  And, if they don?t, since my husband and I both have injectable medications, we just pay the minimal fee.  It?s worth it to us.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Agree with Veronica about keeping insulin cold while in transit. I usually pack it somewhere safe and just put in a fridge once I'm at my destination.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 9:11 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
> 
> Amber, as for taking insulin in public, that is one of the things that initially drove me to use an insulin pump. But apparently, many people just take it right at the table, quickly lifting up a shirt and giving the injection. Half the places I go, I can't seem to find the bathrooms anyway. <grin> And these days, most hotel rooms have small refrigerrators in them without us even asking. Frankly, I don't worry about keeping insulin cold on a flight. You can actually keep it at room temperature for up to 30 days, so I just never fussed about this much. After all, it's sure not cold in my pump. 
> Veronica
> 
> 
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> To learn more, visit:
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 6:25 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
> 
> Amber,
> 
> 
> I know many of us will chime in here on what we do for traveling and eating out. I am probably not as discreet as some people are, since I had no problem breast-feeding my son nor taking my insulin in public! Now that I have an insulin pump, it is not a problem taking my insulin just as my food arrives. When I used a Nova-pen, I just quickly pulled up my shirt and quickly gave my shot into my stomach. If you are wearing a dress or something that you can?t expose your abdomen with, then going into the bathroom would be the best solution. Of course, you also don?t want to give your injection in front of people you don?t really know.
> 
> As for the airport, you never want to go through any scanner. Always asked to be patted down. You also don?t want your extra sensors to go through the X ? Ray, so you are supposed to take them out of your baggage. I never had any issues with packing my extra sensors in my luggage. 
> 
> When keeping your extra insulin cool on the plane, make sure you use a cold pack that is clearly labeled as a freezer or cold pack. You also want to keep it in a separate zip lock bag that you can take out of your Kari ? on and put in the tub when going through security. When in a hotel, you can request a refrigerator for your room. 
> 
> Much like traveling with children, you always want to make sure you have plenty of snacks and glucose tablets with you. I always keep a tube of glucose tablet on me during the flight. There is nothing worse than having a low blood sugar during take-.off or landing and not having access to all of the candy in your Kari ? on! That only had to happen to me once for me to learn to carry glucose tablets on me during the flight.
> 
> As for the Dexcom during flight, you have to always turn your cell ? phone on airplane mode. That will disconnect Bluetooth. Once you are seated, I turn airplane mode on and then go into settings and turn Bluetooth back on. I never shut down my phone, since I need to know what my blood sugar is at all times.
> 
> I hope I answered most of your questions. Please feel free to ask more. Others may have different ways of managing things that you may also find helpful.
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?  
>> Any other things I should know?
>> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?  
>> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
>> :)
>> Amber
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 20:20:29 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 14:20:29 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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I agree.  I would never take insulin before I even ordered in a restaurant.  You never know how long it will take to place your order or how fast or slow your meal will arrive, and Humalog is considered a fast-acting insulin.  I usually take my insulin right before my first bite of food unless my blood sugar is high and needs to come down before I eat.  


				Jamie
  

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Yes, it not only depends on your endo, but the rest of your health and how you process carbs. I haven't been told to bolus before a meals in decades. First, I don't always eat a set carb amount at a given meal, often not finishing my food, so pre-bolusing would get me in trouble. And in fact, I often need to wait 30 minutes or so before bolusing after eating carbs because insulin acts fastly in my body, but carbs don't digest at the same rate, so I've experienced lows a lot if I bolus right after eating. So it really depends on the individual in terms of prebolusing.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Dear Amber,

Docs, nurses, educators differ, I'm just sharing that my Indo's nurse practitioner told me to inject my humolog 30 minutes before eating. I've injected discreetly in the car if I'm with friends, or in the restroom before ordering. It fits in nicely to do it while waiting for a table. I'm still too sugary to worry about my bg going too low if the meal takes longer than a half hour to arrive.

Always with love,

Lissi

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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 8:23 PM
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Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Hi all:
I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
Any other things I should know?
How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
:)
Amber
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From diana56cook at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 20:59:43 2019
From: diana56cook at gmail.com (Diana Cook)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 15:59:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
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I do not totally depend on my cgm . finding it varies from fingerstick. I put cgm under my pillow while sleeping so it doesn?t  loose signal.  If my hs reading is less than 100, I eat a snack containing protein . I have been type 1 for 69 years; Dr. (and I) more afraid of lows than nocturnal highs.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:12, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> This is interesting to me.
> When I first get up in the morning, I have to test, because the cencer says there is no reading, test and then decide what to do.
> When I finger test, I am either 93 or 88 in the morning.
> When I do juice and have breakfast, testing after that I get a reading.
> What I did this last time, was wait until it said meter is finished.
> When I put on the new cencer it said I had to wait an hour.
> So starting working rite away.
> Threw out the day it is giving me numbers, so I don't finger stick.
> I feel I am closer to learning the cencer.
> The numbers are still far apart, and that is fine.
> Just thought I would share.
> 
> -- 
> --Dar
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 21:19:50 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 15:19:50 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
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Obviously, whether using Dexcom or Libre, you still have to calibrate the CGM at various points by using a traditional meter. But for me, I'm sensitive enough to my body to know roughly what my glucose levels are at any given time, especially if high or low, so, if I feel the CGM isn't accurate, I test with my Prodigy Voice above and beyond the calibration times. For example, the other night, Dexcom said I was 123, but I felt high, so I checked with Prodigy, and yes, I was actually 240. So, I had to re-calibrate Dexcom and then all was fine after about 10 minutes. But, if I don't feel Dexcom is off, I'm not going to bother sticking my finger. And for me personally, it's not often that my Prodigy and Dexcom are that far apart. Whether using a traditional meter or CGM, the real proof remains in our quarterly A1-Cs. Since I can't see the receiver, I don't even bother with it and strictly use the app on my iPhone. I usually have my phone nearby at all times, even before using Dexcom, so it's no big deal to carry it with me all the time. Plus, especially of late, I've been watching a lot of Netflix, so my phone is definitely within range, ha. I have a charger just for my bedroom so if I need to charge at night, I can, which I usually need to between Dexcom and Netflix, grin.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr

I do not totally depend on my cgm . finding it varies from fingerstick. I put cgm under my pillow while sleeping so it doesn?t  loose signal.  If my hs reading is less than 100, I eat a snack containing protein . I have been type 1 for 69 years; Dr. (and I) more afraid of lows than nocturnal highs.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:12, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> This is interesting to me.
> When I first get up in the morning, I have to test, because the cencer says there is no reading, test and then decide what to do.
> When I finger test, I am either 93 or 88 in the morning.
> When I do juice and have breakfast, testing after that I get a reading.
> What I did this last time, was wait until it said meter is finished.
> When I put on the new cencer it said I had to wait an hour.
> So starting working rite away.
> Threw out the day it is giving me numbers, so I don't finger stick.
> I feel I am closer to learning the cencer.
> The numbers are still far apart, and that is fine.
> Just thought I would share.
> 
> -- 
> --Dar
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> FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future
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From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Sat Feb  2 23:49:29 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:49:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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This is awesome advice, all. Thank you!
Amber

> On Feb 2, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it not only depends on your endo, but the rest of your health and how you process carbs. I haven't been told to bolus before a meals in decades. First, I don't always eat a set carb amount at a given meal, often not finishing my food, so pre-bolusing would get me in trouble. And in fact, I often need to wait 30 minutes or so before bolusing after eating carbs because insulin acts fastly in my body, but carbs don't digest at the same rate, so I've experienced lows a lot if I bolus right after eating. So it really depends on the individual in terms of prebolusing.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 10:27 PM
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> Cc: Estelnalissi <airadil at dslextreme.com <mailto:airadil at dslextreme.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
> 
> Dear Amber,
> 
> Docs, nurses, educators differ, I'm just sharing that my Indo's nurse practitioner told me to inject my humolog 30 minutes before eating. I've injected discreetly in the car if I'm with friends, or in the restroom before ordering. It fits in nicely to do it while waiting for a table. I'm still too sugary to worry about my bg going too low if the meal takes longer than a half hour to arrive.
> 
> Always with love,
> 
> Lissi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 8:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
> 
> Hi all:
> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
> Any other things I should know?
> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin  right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
> :)
> Amber
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Feb  3 03:30:16 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 22:30:16 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
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Oh I thought I would be able to get rid of that silly pin because there 
was a button on it that would deliver insolin.
I don't know then what I read on the list last week if a patch came off 
you lost around $100 worth of insulin.
If it just reads the numbers, I will have to think if I want it.
Just stay with the stick.

Original message:
> Dar,

> I just want to clarify that a CGM does not give insulin but just test 
> blood sugars. An insulin pump would deliver insulin, but not A CGM, 
> which Dexcom is a CGM.

> If you take an injection in the bathroom, you really don't have to set 
> anything down, especially with insulin pens these days. Some people are 
> more comfortable taking injections discreetly.

> Bridgit

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> gina via Diabetes-Talk
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> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

> One of the worst places is the bathroom.
> You don't know how clean it is.
> I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
> He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
> I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the 
> back of a table then I do my shot there.
> Either in the tummy or the arm.
> This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
> Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
> If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
> That helps out lots.
> In the room for the most time is a fridge.
> That helps.
> Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
> Oh me that wouldn't be good.
> Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
> They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
> Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
> At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
> I don't eat the large ones.
> Leave that for my husband loll.
> Just be you, listen to your body.
> They say eat something every four hours.
> A small snack anything like that.
> I hope this helps.

> Original message:
>> Hi all:
>> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some
>> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have
>> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you
>> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through
>> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my
>> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
>> Any other things I should know?
>> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin
>> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
>> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
>> :)
>> Amber
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Feb  3 03:39:34 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 19:39:34 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
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Dianna, which CGM do you have? 
With the Dexcom G6 you do not have to calibrate unless you suspect a problem. Given how inaccurate a BG meter can be, no way do I stick my finger if I don't have to! I always do a finger stick on the first night with a new sensor, but unless something seems off, nope! Freedom! I will never claim to know my numbers without some sort of tech telling me. And I did a lot of comparisons in the beginning. I do think the G6 is more accurate than the G5 was. But I've had meters tell me my BG was 19 when it was really something like 200 as well. And you only have to be within 20 feet of the phone or receiver. My phone is on my bedside table. It would be deadly if I put something under my pillow. My hubby would snuggle up behind me, stick his arm under there and zing! Bye bye. <grin>
But last night I was having a horrible time with my blood sugar levels. I have been fighting this stupid sinus infection forever and it really got the best of me yesterday. As the night wore on, I felt as though I could take my entire pod's worth of insulin and nothing would happen. Finally when it hit 379 and rapidly rising, I decided to get up and double check my Dexcom since this wasn't making sense. Darn! My meter said 374. In the end, not knowing what else to try, there I was at midnight, changing my pod. Within a few hours I was back down in the 60's. Sheesh! 
To me, it just seems like no matter how smart we think we are, there sure is a bunch of guess work involved in the day to day management of diabetes. I just try to do my best and find methods that suit me in the current phase of my life. <grin>
Veronica


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Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 1:00 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diana Cook
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr

I do not totally depend on my cgm . finding it varies from fingerstick. I put cgm under my pillow while sleeping so it doesn?t  loose signal.  If my hs reading is less than 100, I eat a snack containing protein . I have been type 1 for 69 years; Dr. (and I) more afraid of lows than nocturnal highs.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:12, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> This is interesting to me.
> When I first get up in the morning, I have to test, because the cencer says there is no reading, test and then decide what to do.
> When I finger test, I am either 93 or 88 in the morning.
> When I do juice and have breakfast, testing after that I get a reading.
> What I did this last time, was wait until it said meter is finished.
> When I put on the new cencer it said I had to wait an hour.
> So starting working rite away.
> Threw out the day it is giving me numbers, so I don't finger stick.
> I feel I am closer to learning the cencer.
> The numbers are still far apart, and that is fine.
> Just thought I would share.
> 
> -- 
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
> FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Feb  3 03:53:21 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 21:53:21 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
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I had the exact same thing happened to me several weeks ago. I must have taken 50 units of insulin, and my blood sugar was still saying it was over 300 and rising. I did the same thing and got up and checked my blood sugar. It was correct. I changed my cartridge and infusion set, took 15 units with a Nova pen that I keep on hand for just this reason and went back to bed. When the Dexcom buzzed me again a few minutes later, it was finally going down. I have my alerts set to notify me every 45 minutes when my blood sugar is high, so I give it a chance to go down before taking more insulin. So, it buzzed me every 45 minutes the rest of the night. But, it was dropping. Of coarse, it alarmed me once again about a half an hour before my alarm went off in the morning to let me know that my blood sugar was now urgently low. That was one sleepless night! I decided not to attend church that morning.

My Dexcom was correct, but why the insulin wasn?t working is still a mystery. I am guessing it was a bad infusion set. 

    Jamie

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> On Feb 2, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dianna, which CGM do you have? 
> With the Dexcom G6 you do not have to calibrate unless you suspect a problem. Given how inaccurate a BG meter can be, no way do I stick my finger if I don't have to! I always do a finger stick on the first night with a new sensor, but unless something seems off, nope! Freedom! I will never claim to know my numbers without some sort of tech telling me. And I did a lot of comparisons in the beginning. I do think the G6 is more accurate than the G5 was. But I've had meters tell me my BG was 19 when it was really something like 200 as well. And you only have to be within 20 feet of the phone or receiver. My phone is on my bedside table. It would be deadly if I put something under my pillow. My hubby would snuggle up behind me, stick his arm under there and zing! Bye bye. <grin>
> But last night I was having a horrible time with my blood sugar levels. I have been fighting this stupid sinus infection forever and it really got the best of me yesterday. As the night wore on, I felt as though I could take my entire pod's worth of insulin and nothing would happen. Finally when it hit 379 and rapidly rising, I decided to get up and double check my Dexcom since this wasn't making sense. Darn! My meter said 374. In the end, not knowing what else to try, there I was at midnight, changing my pod. Within a few hours I was back down in the 60's. Sheesh! 
> To me, it just seems like no matter how smart we think we are, there sure is a bunch of guess work involved in the day to day management of diabetes. I just try to do my best and find methods that suit me in the current phase of my life. <grin>
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diana Cook via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 1:00 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Diana Cook
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
> 
> I do not totally depend on my cgm . finding it varies from fingerstick. I put cgm under my pillow while sleeping so it doesn?t  loose signal.  If my hs reading is less than 100, I eat a snack containing protein . I have been type 1 for 69 years; Dr. (and I) more afraid of lows than nocturnal highs.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:12, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> This is interesting to me.
>> When I first get up in the morning, I have to test, because the cencer says there is no reading, test and then decide what to do.
>> When I finger test, I am either 93 or 88 in the morning.
>> When I do juice and have breakfast, testing after that I get a reading.
>> What I did this last time, was wait until it said meter is finished.
>> When I put on the new cencer it said I had to wait an hour.
>> So starting working rite away.
>> Threw out the day it is giving me numbers, so I don't finger stick.
>> I feel I am closer to learning the cencer.
>> The numbers are still far apart, and that is fine.
>> Just thought I would share.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --Dar
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>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb  3 05:34:23 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 23:34:23 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <54c0558c.2485.47fd.86e5.89be9ed02af1@samobile.net>
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Dar,

Someone on the list talked about an insulin-pump like device that sort of like a patch you wear, but Dexcom is strictly a CGM and not an insulin pump at all.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 9:30 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

Oh I thought I would be able to get rid of that silly pin because there was a button on it that would deliver insolin.
I don't know then what I read on the list last week if a patch came off you lost around $100 worth of insulin.
If it just reads the numbers, I will have to think if I want it.
Just stay with the stick.

Original message:
> Dar,

> I just want to clarify that a CGM does not give insulin but just test 
> blood sugars. An insulin pump would deliver insulin, but not A CGM, 
> which Dexcom is a CGM.

> If you take an injection in the bathroom, you really don't have to set 
> anything down, especially with insulin pens these days. Some people 
> are more comfortable taking injections discreetly.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 11:42 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

> One of the worst places is the bathroom.
> You don't know how clean it is.
> I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
> He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
> I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the 
> back of a table then I do my shot there.
> Either in the tummy or the arm.
> This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
> Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
> If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
> That helps out lots.
> In the room for the most time is a fridge.
> That helps.
> Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
> Oh me that wouldn't be good.
> Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
> They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
> Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
> At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
> I don't eat the large ones.
> Leave that for my husband loll.
> Just be you, listen to your body.
> They say eat something every four hours.
> A small snack anything like that.
> I hope this helps.

> Original message:
>> Hi all:
>> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some 
>> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have 
>> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you 
>> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through 
>> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my 
>> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
>> Any other things I should know?
>> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin 
>> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
>> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
>> :)
>> Amber
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb  3 05:39:28 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 23:39:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
In-Reply-To: <114B76FA-DC0B-408A-B7D3-32A9F5936DDC@gmail.com>
References: <39fc6994.9e28.480a.be75.ab0638e0b0d9@samobile.net>	<E42A61C0-3677-4F06-8518-B8AEDDCA6F69@gmail.com>	<000301d4bb72$146f4790$3d4dd6b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<114B76FA-DC0B-408A-B7D3-32A9F5936DDC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1bf301d4bb82$d512d1f0$7f3875d0$@gmail.com>

Jamie,

Now that I'm using a Medtronic pump and sets, I've had a couple of sets not work right. If I can't get sugars down at all and they keep creeping up, after 3 or 4 hours I change my set, and usually this works. A couple of times, I check the canula after pulling it out, and it snaps right off by the slightest touch, which I figure is the problem. This has only happened 3 times since I switched over to Medtronic, which was in October, but still, hope it's not a manufacturing issue.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 9:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr

I had the exact same thing happened to me several weeks ago. I must have taken 50 units of insulin, and my blood sugar was still saying it was over 300 and rising. I did the same thing and got up and checked my blood sugar. It was correct. I changed my cartridge and infusion set, took 15 units with a Nova pen that I keep on hand for just this reason and went back to bed. When the Dexcom buzzed me again a few minutes later, it was finally going down. I have my alerts set to notify me every 45 minutes when my blood sugar is high, so I give it a chance to go down before taking more insulin. So, it buzzed me every 45 minutes the rest of the night. But, it was dropping. Of coarse, it alarmed me once again about a half an hour before my alarm went off in the morning to let me know that my blood sugar was now urgently low. That was one sleepless night! I decided not to attend church that morning.

My Dexcom was correct, but why the insulin wasn?t working is still a mystery. I am guessing it was a bad infusion set. 

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dianna, which CGM do you have? 
> With the Dexcom G6 you do not have to calibrate unless you suspect a 
> problem. Given how inaccurate a BG meter can be, no way do I stick my finger if I don't have to! I always do a finger stick on the first night with a new sensor, but unless something seems off, nope! Freedom! I will never claim to know my numbers without some sort of tech telling me. And I did a lot of comparisons in the beginning. I do think the G6 is more accurate than the G5 was. But I've had meters tell me my BG was 19 when it was really something like 200 as well. And you only have to be within 20 feet of the phone or receiver. My phone is on my bedside table. It would be deadly if I put something under my pillow. My hubby would snuggle up behind me, stick his arm under there and zing! Bye bye. <grin> But last night I was having a horrible time with my blood sugar levels. I have been fighting this stupid sinus infection forever and it really got the best of me yesterday. As the night wore on, I felt as though I could take my entire pod's worth of insulin and nothing would happen. Finally when it hit 379 and rapidly rising, I decided to get up and double check my Dexcom since this wasn't making sense. Darn! My meter said 374. In the end, not knowing what else to try, there I was at midnight, changing my pod. Within a few hours I was back down in the 60's. Sheesh!
> To me, it just seems like no matter how smart we think we are, there 
> sure is a bunch of guess work involved in the day to day management of 
> diabetes. I just try to do my best and find methods that suit me in 
> the current phase of my life. <grin> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Diana Cook via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 1:00 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Diana Cook
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
> 
> I do not totally depend on my cgm . finding it varies from fingerstick. I put cgm under my pillow while sleeping so it doesn?t  loose signal.  If my hs reading is less than 100, I eat a snack containing protein . I have been type 1 for 69 years; Dr. (and I) more afraid of lows than nocturnal highs.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:12, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> This is interesting to me.
>> When I first get up in the morning, I have to test, because the cencer says there is no reading, test and then decide what to do.
>> When I finger test, I am either 93 or 88 in the morning.
>> When I do juice and have breakfast, testing after that I get a reading.
>> What I did this last time, was wait until it said meter is finished.
>> When I put on the new cencer it said I had to wait an hour.
>> So starting working rite away.
>> Threw out the day it is giving me numbers, so I don't finger stick.
>> I feel I am closer to learning the cencer.
>> The numbers are still far apart, and that is fine.
>> Just thought I would share.
>> 
>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Feb  3 06:28:42 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 01:28:42 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
Message-ID: <108d73e6.d25f.45c8.88d5.6ce9ecbf7566@samobile.net>

Thanks again for letting me know.
I just can't keep putting money out for the insulin and have to pay 
over $100 for that, then I will ask about the invoconna to change that 
to a generic.
I am paying $300 for that, was told there was no generic when I know 
there is something out there.
My friend got one, and she couldn't keep paying the price either.
Just nuts.

Original message:
> Dar,

> Someone on the list talked about an insulin-pump like device that sort 
> of like a patch you wear, but Dexcom is strictly a CGM and not an 
> insulin pump at all.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 9:30 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

> Oh I thought I would be able to get rid of that silly pin because there 
> was a button on it that would deliver insolin.
> I don't know then what I read on the list last week if a patch came off 
> you lost around $100 worth of insulin.
> If it just reads the numbers, I will have to think if I want it.
> Just stay with the stick.

> Original message:
>> Dar,

>> I just want to clarify that a CGM does not give insulin but just test
>> blood sugars. An insulin pump would deliver insulin, but not A CGM,
>> which Dexcom is a CGM.

>> If you take an injection in the bathroom, you really don't have to set
>> anything down, especially with insulin pens these days. Some people
>> are more comfortable taking injections discreetly.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 11:42 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public

>> One of the worst places is the bathroom.
>> You don't know how clean it is.
>> I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
>> He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
>> I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the
>> back of a table then I do my shot there.
>> Either in the tummy or the arm.
>> This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
>> Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
>> If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
>> That helps out lots.
>> In the room for the most time is a fridge.
>> That helps.
>> Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
>> Oh me that wouldn't be good.
>> Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
>> They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
>> Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
>> At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
>> I don't eat the large ones.
>> Leave that for my husband loll.
>> Just be you, listen to your body.
>> They say eat something every four hours.
>> A small snack anything like that.
>> I hope this helps.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all:
>>> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some
>>> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have
>>> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you
>>> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through
>>> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my
>>> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
>>> Any other things I should know?
>>> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin
>>> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
>>> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
>>> :)
>>> Amber
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> y
>>> sero.net

>> --
>> --Dar
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>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>> every sinner has a future
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  3 17:02:52 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 12:02:52 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
In-Reply-To: <54c0558c.2485.47fd.86e5.89be9ed02af1@samobile.net>
References: <54c0558c.2485.47fd.86e5.89be9ed02af1@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <34E09DBA-ACFD-460F-AB38-44C44C5B1B7E@gmail.com>

Dar, I was actually talking about the Vgo insulin pump thing. You have to fill the cartridge with insulin from a vile before you can put it on. So, what I was saying is, if the Vigo comes off then you have lost all that insulin that is in the pump. Because it will not stick to you again and you will have to throw it away. That?s what I was talking about last week. Hopefully you understand this better.


Bern



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2019, at 10:30 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh I thought I would be able to get rid of that silly pin because there was a button on it that would deliver insolin.
> I don't know then what I read on the list last week if a patch came off you lost around $100 worth of insulin.
> If it just reads the numbers, I will have to think if I want it.
> Just stay with the stick.
> 
> Original message:
>> Dar,
> 
>> I just want to clarify that a CGM does not give insulin but just test blood sugars. An insulin pump would deliver insulin, but not A CGM, which Dexcom is a CGM.
> 
>> If you take an injection in the bathroom, you really don't have to set anything down, especially with insulin pens these days. Some people are more comfortable taking injections discreetly.
> 
>> Bridgit
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 11:42 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] travel and diabetes in public
> 
>> One of the worst places is the bathroom.
>> You don't know how clean it is.
>> I wish you had known Mike Freeman.
>> He would say, Just do you shot and don't worry about it.
>> I don't know what shot you are speaking of, where if I can sit in the back of a table then I do my shot there.
>> Either in the tummy or the arm.
>> This is one of the reasons why I would love to be able to do the dex com.
>> Where if it is to much I will have to do the stick thing.
>> If you can make sure you drink lots of water.
>> That helps out lots.
>> In the room for the most time is a fridge.
>> That helps.
>> Just don't forget the insulin when it is time to leave the room.
>> Oh me that wouldn't be good.
>> Eating, if you have oatmeal at home, just ask for it out as well.
>> They usually give raisons and brown sugar.
>> Now good or bad I eat both. Then adjust as the day progresses.
>> At noon if you like soup have that or a childs hamburger.
>> I don't eat the large ones.
>> Leave that for my husband loll.
>> Just be you, listen to your body.
>> They say eat something every four hours.
>> A small snack anything like that.
>> I hope this helps.
> 
>> Original message:
>>> Hi all:
>>> I will be traveling a lot for work in the next year.  What are some
>>> things I should know for traveling by plane with diabetes?  Do I have
>>> to have a doctor?s letter or anything, or do TSA agents give you
>>> problems about needles or lancets or your CGM?  Can  a CGM go through
>>> X-ray equipment?  I will be staying in hotels and I need to keep my
>>> insulin cold. If I ask can I get a small fridge?
>>> Any other things I should know?
>>> How about eating in public and diabetes?  I have to take my insulin
>>> right before eating. Do you just go to the bathroom and do your shot?
>>> Sorry I?m just a little paranoid here. Thanks for any advice.
>>> :)
>>> Amber
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sun Feb  3 20:51:22 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 15:51:22 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
In-Reply-To: <1bf301d4bb82$d512d1f0$7f3875d0$@gmail.com>
References: <39fc6994.9e28.480a.be75.ab0638e0b0d9@samobile.net>	<E42A61C0-3677-4F06-8518-B8AEDDCA6F69@gmail.com>	<000301d4bb72$146f4790$3d4dd6b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><114B76FA-DC0B-408A-B7D3-32A9F5936DDC@gmail.com>
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Hi Bridgit,

I have found the Medtronics sets to be pretty well made & reliable. The times I have had problems over the last 5 years have been few. The last time I had an issue was back in September when my numbers were going up over 300 and were not coming down no matter how much I would bolis. 

The problem that time I suspect had to due with the way the little cap at the end of the tubing gets placed onto the reservoir & screwed on. Usually I place the cap on and have to turn it until I find that sweet spot where it pushes down without resistance and then I give it a half turn/screw to lock and secure it on. That day after filling a new reservoir, I placed the cap on and when I went to turn it there was not a firm stop. In other words, I could have kept turning the cap. I figured well its on and its good enough, but clearly it wasn?t because I had problems with that set. By later afternoon I had taken the infusion set out and since I did not want to waste the newly placed insulin in that reservoir, I set it up with a new infusion set. Rewound the motor & pistons and inserted the new infusion set. That time it worked fine and numbers soon leveled out.

When I first started using the Meo sets I would give it a firm press down on my skin to make sure the tape had adhered before pulling the needle out. Now, I no longer press down quite so firmly. I?m much gentler with it & myself. It has all seemed to help in reducing problems with needing to change out the infusion sets before the 3 days are up.

Eileen


From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 12:39 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr

Jamie,

Now that I'm using a Medtronic pump and sets, I've had a couple of sets not work right. If I can't get sugars down at all and they keep creeping up, after 3 or 4 hours I change my set, and usually this works. A couple of times, I check the canula after pulling it out, and it snaps right off by the slightest touch, which I figure is the problem. This has only happened 3 times since I switched over to Medtronic, which was in October, but still, hope it's not a manufacturing issue.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 9:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr

I had the exact same thing happened to me several weeks ago. I must have taken 50 units of insulin, and my blood sugar was still saying it was over 300 and rising. I did the same thing and got up and checked my blood sugar. It was correct. I changed my cartridge and infusion set, took 15 units with a Nova pen that I keep on hand for just this reason and went back to bed. When the Dexcom buzzed me again a few minutes later, it was finally going down. I have my alerts set to notify me every 45 minutes when my blood sugar is high, so I give it a chance to go down before taking more insulin. So, it buzzed me every 45 minutes the rest of the night. But, it was dropping. Of coarse, it alarmed me once again about a half an hour before my alarm went off in the morning to let me know that my blood sugar was now urgently low. That was one sleepless night! I decided not to attend church that morning.

My Dexcom was correct, but why the insulin wasn?t working is still a mystery. I am guessing it was a bad infusion set. 

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dianna, which CGM do you have? 
> With the Dexcom G6 you do not have to calibrate unless you suspect a 
> problem. Given how inaccurate a BG meter can be, no way do I stick my finger if I don't have to! I always do a finger stick on the first night with a new sensor, but unless something seems off, nope! Freedom! I will never claim to know my numbers without some sort of tech telling me. And I did a lot of comparisons in the beginning. I do think the G6 is more accurate than the G5 was. But I've had meters tell me my BG was 19 when it was really something like 200 as well. And you only have to be within 20 feet of the phone or receiver. My phone is on my bedside table. It would be deadly if I put something under my pillow. My hubby would snuggle up behind me, stick his arm under there and zing! Bye bye. <grin> But last night I was having a horrible time with my blood sugar levels. I have been fighting this stupid sinus infection forever and it really got the best of me yesterday. As the night wore on, I felt as though I could take my entire pod's worth of insulin and nothing would happen. Finally when it hit 379 and rapidly rising, I decided to get up and double check my Dexcom since this wasn't making sense. Darn! My meter said 374. In the end, not knowing what else to try, there I was at midnight, changing my pod. Within a few hours I was back down in the 60's. Sheesh!
> To me, it just seems like no matter how smart we think we are, there 
> sure is a bunch of guess work involved in the day to day management of 
> diabetes. I just try to do my best and find methods that suit me in 
> the current phase of my life. <grin> Veronica
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Diana Cook via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 1:00 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Diana Cook
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] cencr
> 
> I do not totally depend on my cgm . finding it varies from fingerstick. I put cgm under my pillow while sleeping so it doesn?t  loose signal.  If my hs reading is less than 100, I eat a snack containing protein . I have been type 1 for 69 years; Dr. (and I) more afraid of lows than nocturnal highs.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:12, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> This is interesting to me.
>> When I first get up in the morning, I have to test, because the cencer says there is no reading, test and then decide what to do.
>> When I finger test, I am either 93 or 88 in the morning.
>> When I do juice and have breakfast, testing after that I get a reading.
>> What I did this last time, was wait until it said meter is finished.
>> When I put on the new cencer it said I had to wait an hour.
>> So starting working rite away.
>> Threw out the day it is giving me numbers, so I don't finger stick.
>> I feel I am closer to learning the cencer.
>> The numbers are still far apart, and that is fine.
>> Just thought I would share.
>> 
>> --
>> --Dar
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>> every sinner has a future
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From pramit.vision at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:12:57 2019
From: pramit.vision at gmail.com (PRAMIT BHARGAVA)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:42:57 +0530
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.
Message-ID: <CAOKP37SXjdY0-S9pSRcqZX84W50NCPefG__e5_qhXWJrhmxM=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,


Although it's been a while since I've joined this group, I guess I couldn't
properly introduce myself. I am Pramit. I am visually impaired and cannot
read at all.


As my vision kept dropping, technology (mobile & PC) has had a huge impact
as it has enabled me to still continue to work independently, be productive
at work and be socially connected.


I am extremely passionate about building better tech solutions for all of
us. With divine grace, I have managed to put together a tech startup with
an equally motivated partner.


Amongst my interest, I am a voracious reader (hearer of audiobooks), I love
meditating and I am also an experimental cook, results of one can lead to
wow to only I will have to eat situation. I was lucky enough to reverse my
diabetes through significant lifestyle changes about 10 years back. Sharing
my learning and motivating others online is another passion/interest area.
I do this strictly on a non-commercial basis. Link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2knVCQE9_70


Thanks

Pramit


From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 15:44:22 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:44:22 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.
In-Reply-To: <CAOKP37SXjdY0-S9pSRcqZX84W50NCPefG__e5_qhXWJrhmxM=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOKP37SXjdY0-S9pSRcqZX84W50NCPefG__e5_qhXWJrhmxM=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1cd801d4bca0$8076b700$81642500$@gmail.com>

Pranit,

Hello and welcome. Glad you've moved forward and are living a life on your
terms.

I became blind 16 years ago, and I feel I've had a fuller life since then
than I did before. I met and married my husband (he's also blind), went back
to school and received a second undergrad and masters and had 2 children.
Even before I knew about training centers or the NFB, I didn't accept that I
was limited or had less of a future than I did before. I was determined to
move forward and live life.

I learned Braille 15 years ago, but I have difficulty reading it. Despite
being a writer, I primarily rely on tech for reading and writing. I write
and edit, and use JAWS to do it. It can be tedious, but I have made it work.
I use Braille when I can, mostly to label things at home or for making short
lists or jotting something down, but for large amounts of reading/writing,
I'm just much too slow; and it's not for lack of trying and working at it. I
actually write it very well, but I struggle with reading Braille. So, to
each his own.

I used to work for the Omaha World Herald, a local newspaper, as a health
and wellness blogger. I talked about diabetes and blindness a lot. I
eventually had to quit that job though, because when my first son was born,,
he had a lot of health complications and was in the NICU for 2 months. At
the time, I decided to stay home and take care of him. He's doing well now,
and you would never know he had a rough start (he's 6 now) but he is on the
spectrum, and I'm now dealing with his school to ensure he IEP is meeting
his needs. His new school this year has been difficult, and I've been in a
back-and-forth with the school psychologist; she met the wrong mama bear,
LOL!

I discovered I was pregnant with my second while training for a triathlon
with my husband a couple of years ago. The week before the race, I found
out. Sadly, I was in amazing shape during my pregnancy. I kept up my
training in addition to yoga during the entire 9 months. Since he was born,
I exercise, but not as intensly as I did pregers LOL! I would like to get
back to triathlon shape again, but life is just so busy these days.

I've been diabetic for 33 years now. I've been using an insulin pump for 15
years and just started using a Dexcom CGM back in October.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of PRAMIT
BHARGAVA via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 4:13 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: PRAMIT BHARGAVA <pramit.vision at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.

Hi everyone,


Although it's been a while since I've joined this group, I guess I couldn't
properly introduce myself. I am Pramit. I am visually impaired and cannot
read at all.


As my vision kept dropping, technology (mobile & PC) has had a huge impact
as it has enabled me to still continue to work independently, be productive
at work and be socially connected.


I am extremely passionate about building better tech solutions for all of
us. With divine grace, I have managed to put together a tech startup with an
equally motivated partner.


Amongst my interest, I am a voracious reader (hearer of audiobooks), I love
meditating and I am also an experimental cook, results of one can lead to
wow to only I will have to eat situation. I was lucky enough to reverse my
diabetes through significant lifestyle changes about 10 years back. Sharing
my learning and motivating others online is another passion/interest area.
I do this strictly on a non-commercial basis. Link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2knVCQE9_70


Thanks

Pramit
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb  4 20:49:44 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 15:49:44 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
Message-ID: <e171d880.6381.487e.8407.8a245f853421@samobile.net>

I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
even though I couldn't use it.
medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
At least for the first time.
Then I would pay under $50 a month.
That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
We also talked about the pump.
She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
better turned around.
She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
Glad you keep busy.

I admire you that you can.
I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your life.
Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that you 
folks were dealing with.
Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

-- 
--Dar
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future



From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 21:16:39 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:16:39 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <e171d880.6381.487e.8407.8a245f853421@samobile.net>
References: <e171d880.6381.487e.8407.8a245f853421@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1d5401d4bcce$eba6a980$c2f3fc80$@gmail.com>

Dar,

A CGM just reads glucose levels.

An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and an
insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right
option for you.

Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it with
any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's not always
easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on the market that a
blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a work-around. After
October of last year, we no longer have pumps that will work for us. Those
of us who switched before the deadline only have 4 years before Medtronic no
longer supports the pump we are on.

So, stick with an insulin pen.

Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely inaccessible
for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use it; you still will
get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't even have my receiver
turned on though; I only use the app on my smart phone.

Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, and I
believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system. So, you
need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but if you switch
to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that may be around what you
would pay. But again, you need to contact Dexcom and find out an amount for
sure.

Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to insert a
sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect with the app on
your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I highly encourage you to do
if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier to insert the sensor. Another
bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo offices are familiar with Dexcom and
can train you properly on the system and help you if you have any problems
with it in addition to Dexcom's tech support.

But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom and
Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very different
things.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well even
though I couldn't use it.
medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
At least for the first time.
Then I would pay under $50 a month.
That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
We also talked about the pump.
She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something better
turned around.
She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
Glad you keep busy.

I admire you that you can.
I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your life.
Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that you
folks were dealing with.
Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

--
--Dar
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb  4 21:31:01 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 16:31:01 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
Message-ID: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use 
insolin three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and an
> insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it with
> any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's not always
> easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on the market that a
> blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a work-around. After
> October of last year, we no longer have pumps that will work for us. Those
> of us who switched before the deadline only have 4 years before Medtronic no
> longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely inaccessible
> for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use it; you still will
> get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't even have my receiver
> turned on though; I only use the app on my smart phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, and I
> believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system. So, you
> need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but if you switch
> to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that may be around what you
> would pay. But again, you need to contact Dexcom and find out an amount for
> sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to insert a
> sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect with the app on
> your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I highly encourage you to do
> if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier to insert the sensor. Another
> bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo offices are familiar with Dexcom and
> can train you properly on the system and help you if you have any problems
> with it in addition to Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom and
> Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very different
> things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well even
> though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something better
> turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that you
> folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 21:57:49 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:57:49 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>
References: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
at all right now?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system. 
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb  4 22:05:04 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:05:04 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
Message-ID: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net>

Yes but not what you use.
I take it twice a day.
Morning and night.

Original message:
> I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
> right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
> able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
> at all right now?

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> OK I understand,
> Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
> three time a day.
> Are you being told the same thing?
> I will share that a pump won't work for me.
> Thanks for your help.

> Original message:
>> Dar,

>> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

>> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

>> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and
>> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

>> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right
>> option for you.

>> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it
>> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's
>> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on
>> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a
>> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that
>> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only
>> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

>> So, stick with an insulin pen.

>> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely
>> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use
>> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't
>> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
> phone.

>> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself,
>> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system.
>> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but
>> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that
>> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact
>> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

>> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to
>> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect
>> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I
>> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier
>> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo
>> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the
>> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
> Dexcom's tech support.

>> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom
>> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very
>> different things.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

>> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
>> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well
>> even though I couldn't use it.
>> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
>> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
>> At least for the first time.
>> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
>> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
>> We also talked about the pump.
>> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
>> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something
>> better turned around.
>> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
>> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
>> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
>> Glad you keep busy.

>> I admire you that you can.
>> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
> life.
>> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
>> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that
>> you folks were dealing with.
>> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

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From joystigile at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 22:45:12 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 14:45:12 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
References: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>
	<1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004e01d4bcdb$4aa34220$dfe9c660$@gmail.com>

Hi Bridget,
The Dexcom CGM is only for people who are Type one and taking insulin.  No
insurance company will cover someone who is type two and not dependent on
insulin.  That is why the Libra is recommended for type two because it is
not give so many readings during the day because traditionally type two's do
not have the wide swings as those on insulin do.  

Warmly, Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
at all right now?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system.
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Feb  4 23:19:34 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:19:34 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
References: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>
	<1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d4bce0$1717a9f0$4546fdd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Medicare does have a list of criteria needed to have the Dexcom covered. I
do think the insulin requirement is in there.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
at all right now?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system. 
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
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>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future

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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 23:27:56 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:27:56 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <000c01d4bce0$1717a9f0$4546fdd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>
	<1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
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I believe that?s right, and one of the criteria is that one has to be on insulin, whether Type 1 or Type 2. I believe I read that on www.diatribe.org the other day. If you don?t already frequent that website, I highly recommend it. Lots of latest news and perspectives, written by people with diabetes.

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Medicare does have a list of criteria needed to have the Dexcom covered. I
do think the insulin requirement is in there.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
at all right now?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system. 
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 00:20:59 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:20:59 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net>
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I use Humalog several times a day.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 4:05 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Yes but not what you use.
I take it twice a day.
Morning and night.

Original message:
> I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't 
> sound right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s 
> should be able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do 
> you use insulin at all right now?

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> OK I understand,
> Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use 
> insolin three time a day.
> Are you being told the same thing?
> I will share that a pump won't work for me.
> Thanks for your help.

> Original message:
>> Dar,

>> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

>> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

>> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
>> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

>> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the 
>> right option for you.

>> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
>> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
>> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
>> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
>> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
>> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
>> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

>> So, stick with an insulin pen.

>> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
>> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
>> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
>> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my 
>> smart
> phone.

>> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
>> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system.
>> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
>> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
>> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
>> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

>> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
>> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
>> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
>> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
>> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
>> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
>> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
> Dexcom's tech support.

>> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
>> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
>> different things.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

>> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
>> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
>> even though I couldn't use it.
>> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
>> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
>> At least for the first time.
>> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
>> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
>> We also talked about the pump.
>> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
>> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
>> better turned around.
>> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
>> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
>> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
>> Glad you keep busy.

>> I admire you that you can.
>> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
> life.
>> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
>> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
>> you folks were dealing with.
>> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

>> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 00:24:59 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:24:59 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <000c01d4bce0$1717a9f0$4546fdd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>	<1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
	<000c01d4bce0$1717a9f0$4546fdd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <1d8101d4bce9$3aedeca0$b0c9c5e0$@gmail.com>

Good to know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Medicare does have a list of criteria needed to have the Dexcom covered. I
do think the insulin requirement is in there.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
at all right now?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system.
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 00:27:27 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:27:27 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Yep, that makes sense. I was thrown off by the type 2 comment, because I know type 2s using Dexcom, but yes, they do use insulin. Thanks everyone for clearing that up.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 5:28 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I believe that?s right, and one of the criteria is that one has to be on insulin, whether Type 1 or Type 2. I believe I read that on www.diatribe.org the other day. If you don?t already frequent that website, I highly recommend it. Lots of latest news and perspectives, written by people with diabetes.

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Medicare does have a list of criteria needed to have the Dexcom covered. I do think the insulin requirement is in there.
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin at all right now?

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system.
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
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>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future

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From diana56cook at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 01:13:18 2019
From: diana56cook at gmail.com (Diana Cook)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 20:13:18 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.
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Hi Briget...just to introduce myself: Diana cook. Age80. Type I Diabetic 69 years. Medtronic pump. Dexcom cgm. Visually impaired.  Son and I live together. Artist...still painting some very blessed live in franklinton, NC God bless you !

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Pranit,
> 
> Hello and welcome. Glad you've moved forward and are living a life on your
> terms.
> 
> I became blind 16 years ago, and I feel I've had a fuller life since then
> than I did before. I met and married my husband (he's also blind), went back
> to school and received a second undergrad and masters and had 2 children.
> Even before I knew about training centers or the NFB, I didn't accept that I
> was limited or had less of a future than I did before. I was determined to
> move forward and live life.
> 
> I learned Braille 15 years ago, but I have difficulty reading it. Despite
> being a writer, I primarily rely on tech for reading and writing. I write
> and edit, and use JAWS to do it. It can be tedious, but I have made it work.
> I use Braille when I can, mostly to label things at home or for making short
> lists or jotting something down, but for large amounts of reading/writing,
> I'm just much too slow; and it's not for lack of trying and working at it. I
> actually write it very well, but I struggle with reading Braille. So, to
> each his own.
> 
> I used to work for the Omaha World Herald, a local newspaper, as a health
> and wellness blogger. I talked about diabetes and blindness a lot. I
> eventually had to quit that job though, because when my first son was born,,
> he had a lot of health complications and was in the NICU for 2 months. At
> the time, I decided to stay home and take care of him. He's doing well now,
> and you would never know he had a rough start (he's 6 now) but he is on the
> spectrum, and I'm now dealing with his school to ensure he IEP is meeting
> his needs. His new school this year has been difficult, and I've been in a
> back-and-forth with the school psychologist; she met the wrong mama bear,
> LOL!
> 
> I discovered I was pregnant with my second while training for a triathlon
> with my husband a couple of years ago. The week before the race, I found
> out. Sadly, I was in amazing shape during my pregnancy. I kept up my
> training in addition to yoga during the entire 9 months. Since he was born,
> I exercise, but not as intensly as I did pregers LOL! I would like to get
> back to triathlon shape again, but life is just so busy these days.
> 
> I've been diabetic for 33 years now. I've been using an insulin pump for 15
> years and just started using a Dexcom CGM back in October.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of PRAMIT
> BHARGAVA via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 4:13 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: PRAMIT BHARGAVA <pramit.vision at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> Although it's been a while since I've joined this group, I guess I couldn't
> properly introduce myself. I am Pramit. I am visually impaired and cannot
> read at all.
> 
> 
> As my vision kept dropping, technology (mobile & PC) has had a huge impact
> as it has enabled me to still continue to work independently, be productive
> at work and be socially connected.
> 
> 
> I am extremely passionate about building better tech solutions for all of
> us. With divine grace, I have managed to put together a tech startup with an
> equally motivated partner.
> 
> 
> Amongst my interest, I am a voracious reader (hearer of audiobooks), I love
> meditating and I am also an experimental cook, results of one can lead to
> wow to only I will have to eat situation. I was lucky enough to reverse my
> diabetes through significant lifestyle changes about 10 years back. Sharing
> my learning and motivating others online is another passion/interest area.
> I do this strictly on a non-commercial basis. Link below:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2knVCQE9_70
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pramit
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 01:20:59 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:20:59 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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	<1d8201d4bce9$93783ec0$ba68bc40$@gmail.com>
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I'm a type 2 user of dexcom and i also do use insulin  both long term an short term as well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 4:27 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Yep, that makes sense. I was thrown off by the type 2 comment, because I know type 2s using Dexcom, but yes, they do use insulin. Thanks everyone for clearing that up.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 5:28 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I believe that?s right, and one of the criteria is that one has to be on insulin, whether Type 1 or Type 2. I believe I read that on www.diatribe.org the other day. If you don?t already frequent that website, I highly recommend it. Lots of latest news and perspectives, written by people with diabetes.

Sandi


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Medicare does have a list of criteria needed to have the Dexcom covered. I do think the insulin requirement is in there.
Veronica


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Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin at all right now?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

OK I understand,
Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin three time a day.
Are you being told the same thing?
I will share that a pump won't work for me.
Thanks for your help.

Original message:
> Dar,

> A CGM just reads glucose levels.

> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.

> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.

> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
> option for you.

> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.

> So, stick with an insulin pen.

> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
phone.

> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system.
> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.

> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
Dexcom's tech support.

> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
> different things.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
> even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
> better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.

> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
> you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?

> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 01:22:46 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:22:46 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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References: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net>
	<1d7f01d4bce8$ac0573a0$04105ae0$@gmail.com>
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Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo said
to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a heavy meal.is
this the correct approach to humolog or what's the correct approach to
taking humolog before  meals. 




From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Feb  5 03:30:30 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 22:30:30 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Gary,

Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.

You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a nutritionist to help you work it all out.

Good luck with this.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: gary-melconian 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo said
to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a heavy meal.is
this the correct approach to humolog or what's the correct approach to
taking humolog before  meals. 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 03:42:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 21:42:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.
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	<F31CE0BF-E7B3-478A-85A9-B62A2FBAB465@gmail.com>
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Hi, always nice to meet new people here.

Just to clarify, I've been on the list for several years, smile. I was
responding to Pranit's post about sharing for the first time, but I myself
am not new to the list, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Diana
Cook via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:13 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Diana Cook <diana56cook at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.

Hi Briget...just to introduce myself: Diana cook. Age80. Type I Diabetic 69
years. Medtronic pump. Dexcom cgm. Visually impaired.  Son and I live
together. Artist...still painting some very blessed live in franklinton, NC
God bless you !

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Pranit,
> 
> Hello and welcome. Glad you've moved forward and are living a life on 
> your terms.
> 
> I became blind 16 years ago, and I feel I've had a fuller life since 
> then than I did before. I met and married my husband (he's also 
> blind), went back to school and received a second undergrad and masters
and had 2 children.
> Even before I knew about training centers or the NFB, I didn't accept 
> that I was limited or had less of a future than I did before. I was 
> determined to move forward and live life.
> 
> I learned Braille 15 years ago, but I have difficulty reading it. 
> Despite being a writer, I primarily rely on tech for reading and 
> writing. I write and edit, and use JAWS to do it. It can be tedious, but I
have made it work.
> I use Braille when I can, mostly to label things at home or for making 
> short lists or jotting something down, but for large amounts of 
> reading/writing, I'm just much too slow; and it's not for lack of 
> trying and working at it. I actually write it very well, but I 
> struggle with reading Braille. So, to each his own.
> 
> I used to work for the Omaha World Herald, a local newspaper, as a 
> health and wellness blogger. I talked about diabetes and blindness a 
> lot. I eventually had to quit that job though, because when my first 
> son was born,, he had a lot of health complications and was in the 
> NICU for 2 months. At the time, I decided to stay home and take care 
> of him. He's doing well now, and you would never know he had a rough 
> start (he's 6 now) but he is on the spectrum, and I'm now dealing with 
> his school to ensure he IEP is meeting his needs. His new school this 
> year has been difficult, and I've been in a back-and-forth with the 
> school psychologist; she met the wrong mama bear, LOL!
> 
> I discovered I was pregnant with my second while training for a 
> triathlon with my husband a couple of years ago. The week before the 
> race, I found out. Sadly, I was in amazing shape during my pregnancy. 
> I kept up my training in addition to yoga during the entire 9 months. 
> Since he was born, I exercise, but not as intensly as I did pregers 
> LOL! I would like to get back to triathlon shape again, but life is just
so busy these days.
> 
> I've been diabetic for 33 years now. I've been using an insulin pump 
> for 15 years and just started using a Dexcom CGM back in October.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> PRAMIT BHARGAVA via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 4:13 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: PRAMIT BHARGAVA <pramit.vision at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Intro.
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> Although it's been a while since I've joined this group, I guess I 
> couldn't properly introduce myself. I am Pramit. I am visually 
> impaired and cannot read at all.
> 
> 
> As my vision kept dropping, technology (mobile & PC) has had a huge 
> impact as it has enabled me to still continue to work independently, 
> be productive at work and be socially connected.
> 
> 
> I am extremely passionate about building better tech solutions for all 
> of us. With divine grace, I have managed to put together a tech 
> startup with an equally motivated partner.
> 
> 
> Amongst my interest, I am a voracious reader (hearer of audiobooks), I 
> love meditating and I am also an experimental cook, results of one can 
> lead to wow to only I will have to eat situation. I was lucky enough 
> to reverse my diabetes through significant lifestyle changes about 10 
> years back. Sharing my learning and motivating others online is another
passion/interest area.
> I do this strictly on a non-commercial basis. Link below:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2knVCQE9_70
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pramit
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 03:47:56 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 21:47:56 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <008a01d4bcf1$4ddf7f60$e99e7e20$@gmail.com>
References: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net>	<1d7f01d4bce8$ac0573a0$04105ae0$@gmail.com>
	<008a01d4bcf1$4ddf7f60$e99e7e20$@gmail.com>
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Humalog and Novolog are the same thing; both are a fast-acting insulin. When
meal bolusing, you can use either of these. How much you bolus should depend
on a carb/insulin ratio. For me, at breakfast, I do 1 per 22, so for every
22 grams of carbs, I take 1 unit of insulin, which for me at breakfast is
usually less than a single unit. At lunch though, I do 1 per 8, so for every
8 grams of carbs, I take a unit of insulin. Lunch amounts usually are
between 2 to 4 units of insulin total. And at dinner, I do 1 per 12, so I
take a unit for every 12 grams of carbs. This usually is again between 2 and
4 or 5 units of insulin. I don't often have a bedtime snack, but if I do,
it's 1 per 15, which of course means for every 15 grams of carbs, I take a
unit. Bolus ratios depend on the person and the carbs and the time of day.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo said
to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a heavy meal.is
this the correct approach to humolog or what's the correct approach to
taking humolog before  meals. 


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 04:01:09 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 20:01:09 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <003201d4bd05$95111d80$bf335880$@gmail.com>
References: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net>	<1d7f01d4bce8$ac0573a0$04105ae0$@gmail.com>	<008a01d4bcf1$4ddf7f60$e99e7e20$@gmail.com>
	<003201d4bd05$95111d80$bf335880$@gmail.com>
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Thanks for the explanation. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:48 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Humalog and Novolog are the same thing; both are a fast-acting insulin. When
meal bolusing, you can use either of these. How much you bolus should depend
on a carb/insulin ratio. For me, at breakfast, I do 1 per 22, so for every
22 grams of carbs, I take 1 unit of insulin, which for me at breakfast is
usually less than a single unit. At lunch though, I do 1 per 8, so for every
8 grams of carbs, I take a unit of insulin. Lunch amounts usually are
between 2 to 4 units of insulin total. And at dinner, I do 1 per 12, so I
take a unit for every 12 grams of carbs. This usually is again between 2 and
4 or 5 units of insulin. I don't often have a bedtime snack, but if I do,
it's 1 per 15, which of course means for every 15 grams of carbs, I take a
unit. Bolus ratios depend on the person and the carbs and the time of day.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo said
to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a heavy meal.is
this the correct approach to humolog or what's the correct approach to
taking humolog before  meals. 


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 04:04:46 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 20:04:46 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <7E8AAC1606E54802B08396876FCFDB5A@eileen>
References: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net><1d7f01d4bce8$ac0573a0$04105ae0$@gmail.com>	<008a01d4bcf1$4ddf7f60$e99e7e20$@gmail.com>
	<7E8AAC1606E54802B08396876FCFDB5A@eileen>
Message-ID: <02fc01d4bd07$ef390820$cdab1860$@gmail.com>

Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Gary,

Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.

You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a nutritionist to help you work it all out.

Good luck with this.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the correct approach to taking humolog before  meals. 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 04:10:07 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 22:10:07 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <02fc01d4bd07$ef390820$cdab1860$@gmail.com>
References: <afa6c7a4.aa2f.4472.8b84.768d684591a9@samobile.net><1d7f01d4bce8$ac0573a0$04105ae0$@gmail.com>	<008a01d4bcf1$4ddf7f60$e99e7e20$@gmail.com>	<7E8AAC1606E54802B08396876FCFDB5A@eileen>
	<02fc01d4bd07$ef390820$cdab1860$@gmail.com>
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Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Gary,

Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.

You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a nutritionist to help you work it all out.

Good luck with this.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the correct approach to taking humolog before  meals. 


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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 13:46:47 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 08:46:47 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
References: <bf6e814a.6587.402b.8a0e.eebbb6eda77a@samobile.net>
	<1d5e01d4bcd4$ac0f00a0$042d01e0$@gmail.com>
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Dar:

Bern here.  I?ll be at home today and I would like for you to call me when you?re up and around and have about an hour to get a conference call in between you, me, and the folks at Dexcom.  I would be willing to assist you with initiating contact with Dexcom and facilitate  a good, supportive dialogue between you.  I quite agree with Bridget.  This rests on insulin dependence.  I really don?t think it matters how many injections a day we?re talking here.  I will email you my phone number privately.  I do have yours, so far as I know.  Not to worry my friend.  We?ll get this taken care of one way or another.

Bern

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> On Feb 4, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm type 1, so I have to use insulin several times a day. That doesn't sound
> right to me though because a CGM is just a glucometer. Type 2s should be
> able to use it regardless if using insulin or not. Dar, do you use insulin
> at all right now?
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 3:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> OK I understand,
> Where they still won't help me out with the dex com unless I use insolin
> three time a day.
> Are you being told the same thing?
> I will share that a pump won't work for me.
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Original message:
>> Dar,
> 
>> A CGM just reads glucose levels.
> 
>> An insulin pump just delivers insulin.
> 
>> This is why some of us use both. A CGM does not deliver insulin, and 
>> an insulin pump doesn't read glucose levels.
> 
>> Honestly, Dar, don't use an insulin pump; I don't think it's the right 
>> option for you.
> 
>> Those of us using pumps can't not read the screen at all or access it 
>> with any tech. We have found work-arounds to make it work, but it's 
>> not always easy. And as of now, there's not a single insulin pump on 
>> the market that a blind diabetic can use any longer, not even with a 
>> work-around. After October of last year, we no longer have pumps that 
>> will work for us. Those of us who switched before the deadline only 
>> have 4 years before Medtronic no longer supports the pump we are on.
> 
>> So, stick with an insulin pen.
> 
>> Dexcom also comes with a receiver like Libre that's completely 
>> inaccessible for blind people. It doesn't matter that you won't use 
>> it; you still will get it. It's a part of the entire system. I don't 
>> even have my receiver turned on though; I only use the app on my smart
> phone.
> 
>> Before Medicare covered Dexcom, I looked into paying for it myself, 
>> and I believe it was going to cost around $1200 for the entire system. 
>> So, you need to find out for sure what Dexcom estimates for you, but 
>> if you switch to Dexcom and have to pay for it the first time, that 
>> may be around what you would pay. But again, you need to contact 
>> Dexcom and find out an amount for sure.
> 
>> Also, the way Dexcom and Libre work are similar. You will have to 
>> insert a sensor onto your body and attach a transmitter then connect 
>> with the app on your phone. If you go with the Dexcom G6, which I 
>> highly encourage you to do if you switch to Dexcom, it's much easier 
>> to insert the sensor. Another bonus to using Dexcom is that most endo 
>> offices are familiar with Dexcom and can train you properly on the 
>> system and help you if you have any problems with it in addition to
> Dexcom's tech support.
> 
>> But again, want to really stress and clarify that CGMs (which Dexcom 
>> and Libre are) and insulin pumps are not the same thing and do very 
>> different things.
> 
>> Bridgit
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 2:50 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
>> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well 
>> even though I couldn't use it.
>> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
>> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
>> At least for the first time.
>> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
>> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
>> We also talked about the pump.
>> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
>> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something 
>> better turned around.
>> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
>> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
>> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
>> Glad you keep busy.
> 
>> I admire you that you can.
>> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your
> life.
>> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
>> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that 
>> you folks were dealing with.
>> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?
> 
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 14:03:19 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 09:03:19 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <e171d880.6381.487e.8407.8a245f853421@samobile.net>
References: <e171d880.6381.487e.8407.8a245f853421@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <150F490C-7BDF-43B1-A716-410C3B77D71F@gmail.com>

Hi Dar:

I  was reading through you message here to see where you came up with the idea that you had to have three injections per day?  You?re saying this came from your educator?  Hate to be the bearer of bad news.  Her statement is erroneous.  You must be declared ?insulin Dependent.?  At any rate, if you call me when you?re up and around as our time zones are different, together, we will work this out for you.  As for training, Dexcom will be in charge of that part and they will see to it that somebody works with you.,

Warmly,

Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:49 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I spoke to my diabetic coordinator, who shared she is standing up for me.
> I didn't know when i got the libre I was paying for the box as well even though I couldn't use it.
> medicare. are shares that it is for five years.
> If I go on the dex com I would have to pay out rite for everything.
> At least for the first time.
> Then I would pay under $50 a month.
> That sure is better than what I was paying for the libre.
> We also talked about the pump.
> She said that medicare would help if I took insulin three times a day.
> She said she will talk to the doctor to see how we can get something better turned around.
> She said even being a type two diabetic I could be on the pump.
> I don't think I could do two things at the same time. Just some thoughts.
> Thanks for sharing on behalf of your children.
> Glad you keep busy.
> 
> I admire you that you can.
> I have always looked up to all of you, who have done this all of your life.
> Those on the pump can you read your numbers by the phone as well?
> I can't tel you the name she said, but I thought it was a name that you folks were dealing with.
> Why would you wear a pump and dex com at the same time?
> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Tue Feb  5 20:26:05 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:26:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
Message-ID: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>

Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 21:54:59 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:54:59 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>

No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Tue Feb  5 22:01:48 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 17:01:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
Message-ID: <0fe4a25c.ddf9.42b7.b846.3f737a4225f4@samobile.net>

Smile,
I was laughing while writing message.
Just is magic I tell myself, just magic.
You know if I didn't laugh at myself once a day, I would wonder what is 
wrong with me.


Original message:
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

>> Gary,

>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either
>> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you
>> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I
>> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to
>> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might
>> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re
>> probably producing some of your own insulin.

>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

>> Good luck with this.

>> Eileen

>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


>> _______________________________________________
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From princessterri76 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 23:46:55 2019
From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri Stimmel)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:46:55 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Even more questions regarding the Libre
In-Reply-To: <88552ffa.0a91.4d8d.860d.3286e4a0e8b4@samobile.net>
References: <88552ffa.0a91.4d8d.860d.3286e4a0e8b4@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <B66C1818-AB72-433B-80D7-4F292385CADE@gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions. I really appreciate it, and it helped me a lot.

I have had my sensor on since yesterday. Things are going very well. The App on my phone works great. I find it easy to scan my sensor.
I just have a few more questions, though.

First of all, everything I have read, states that the sensor has to go on the back of your arm. What do you all think? Do you find this to be accurate? If I wanted to wear it on my arm, below my shoulder, might this be possible?

Also, when I take a shower, can I leave the sensor uncovered? Is it alright if it gets wet?

I appreciate all the help.

Thank you,

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:05 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> You did down load the app on your phone rite?
> That is the first step and you can do this even before you get the kit in the mail or how ever it will come?
> Once you are registered with the company you can move forward.
> Yes even I learned how to put it on, I can send you steps privately if no one has done it here.
> You then wait an hour and then test.
> The app will share that.
> I am thinking your doctors office doesn't know for sure what you are doing, so to put it back on you doesn't surprise me.
> Wishing you the best.
> 
> 
> Original message:
>> Hello everyone,
> 
>> I have more questions, regarding the Freestyle Libre. I hope you all won?t mind? And I hope some of you can help me out.
> 
>> I have been approved for the Libre. It was shipped out yesterday. So I am really hoping that it won?t take long at all to get here.
> 
>> When I receive it, what are some things I should know?
>> Can I start using it right away?
>> Or is it best to start at a certain time? And always change out the sensor at the same time, or around that time, when that needs changing?
> 
>> I plan to call my doctor?s office, to let them know I now have the Libre system. The doctor told me to do this once I got it, and to come in and they will help me with it.
>> However, his office staff told me that, because I would be using it differently, that I would have to learn it on my own. I think someone was definitely mistaken there. LOL!
> 
>> I believe I got the 14 day system. So once I have a sensor on, can I start using the device emediately? Or do I have to wait a certain period of time, before this can happen?
>> And once I go to use it, is there anything I need to do to prepare it, so I receive the best blood sugar readings as possible?
> 
>> Anything you all can tell me, or think I should know, is very much appreciated. I am very excited to be receiving this device. But as you all can imagine, I am pretty nervous as well.
> 
>> Thank you,
> 
>> Terri
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 00:10:57 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 19:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Even more questions regarding the Libre
In-Reply-To: <B66C1818-AB72-433B-80D7-4F292385CADE@gmail.com>
References: <88552ffa.0a91.4d8d.860d.3286e4a0e8b4@samobile.net>
	<B66C1818-AB72-433B-80D7-4F292385CADE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01B658BD-2C15-43AE-9378-49DC231FFAF3@gmail.com>

I have my sensor on my shoulder more on my arm. It?s still on the back of my arm though I guess. I?m not really sure how to describe it.
I don?t cover my sensor when I take a shower. I even use soap on it and it seems fine.
Amber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions. I really appreciate it, and it helped me a lot.
> 
> I have had my sensor on since yesterday. Things are going very well. The App on my phone works great. I find it easy to scan my sensor.
> I just have a few more questions, though.
> 
> First of all, everything I have read, states that the sensor has to go on the back of your arm. What do you all think? Do you find this to be accurate? If I wanted to wear it on my arm, below my shoulder, might this be possible?
> 
> Also, when I take a shower, can I leave the sensor uncovered? Is it alright if it gets wet?
> 
> I appreciate all the help.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:05 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> You did down load the app on your phone rite?
>> That is the first step and you can do this even before you get the kit in the mail or how ever it will come?
>> Once you are registered with the company you can move forward.
>> Yes even I learned how to put it on, I can send you steps privately if no one has done it here.
>> You then wait an hour and then test.
>> The app will share that.
>> I am thinking your doctors office doesn't know for sure what you are doing, so to put it back on you doesn't surprise me.
>> Wishing you the best.
>> 
>> 
>> Original message:
>>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>>> I have more questions, regarding the Freestyle Libre. I hope you all won?t mind? And I hope some of you can help me out.
>> 
>>> I have been approved for the Libre. It was shipped out yesterday. So I am really hoping that it won?t take long at all to get here.
>> 
>>> When I receive it, what are some things I should know?
>>> Can I start using it right away?
>>> Or is it best to start at a certain time? And always change out the sensor at the same time, or around that time, when that needs changing?
>> 
>>> I plan to call my doctor?s office, to let them know I now have the Libre system. The doctor told me to do this once I got it, and to come in and they will help me with it.
>>> However, his office staff told me that, because I would be using it differently, that I would have to learn it on my own. I think someone was definitely mistaken there. LOL!
>> 
>>> I believe I got the 14 day system. So once I have a sensor on, can I start using the device emediately? Or do I have to wait a certain period of time, before this can happen?
>>> And once I go to use it, is there anything I need to do to prepare it, so I receive the best blood sugar readings as possible?
>> 
>>> Anything you all can tell me, or think I should know, is very much appreciated. I am very excited to be receiving this device. But as you all can imagine, I am pretty nervous as well.
>> 
>>> Thank you,
>> 
>>> Terri
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 01:35:24 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:35:24 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>
	<012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>

Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb  6 01:43:03 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 20:43:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Even more questions regarding the Libre
Message-ID: <9199f852.3eb7.4d3f.aebb.f909468c60b1@samobile.net>

Second question yes it can get wet, where I found for me after a week 
it started to get lose.
Then wanted to come off.
I was told it had to be on the loose skin of arm.
I like your idea better on the shoulder.
Oh I reallly hope this works for you.

Original message:
> Hello everyone,

> First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions. 
> I really appreciate it, and it helped me a lot.

> I have had my sensor on since yesterday. Things are going very well. 
> The App on my phone works great. I find it easy to scan my sensor.
> I just have a few more questions, though.

> First of all, everything I have read, states that the sensor has to go 
> on the back of your arm. What do you all think? Do you find this to be 
> accurate? If I wanted to wear it on my arm, below my shoulder, might 
> this be possible?

> Also, when I take a shower, can I leave the sensor uncovered? Is it 
> alright if it gets wet?

> I appreciate all the help.

> Thank you,

> Terri

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:05 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> You did down load the app on your phone rite?
>> That is the first step and you can do this even before you get the kit 
>> in the mail or how ever it will come?
>> Once you are registered with the company you can move forward.
>> Yes even I learned how to put it on, I can send you steps privately if 
>> no one has done it here.
>> You then wait an hour and then test.
>> The app will share that.
>> I am thinking your doctors office doesn't know for sure what you are 
>> doing, so to put it back on you doesn't surprise me.
>> Wishing you the best.


>> Original message:
>>> Hello everyone,

>>> I have more questions, regarding the Freestyle Libre. I hope you all 
>>> won?t mind? And I hope some of you can help me out.

>>> I have been approved for the Libre. It was shipped out yesterday. So I 
>>> am really hoping that it won?t take long at all to get here.

>>> When I receive it, what are some things I should know?
>>> Can I start using it right away?
>>> Or is it best to start at a certain time? And always change out the 
>>> sensor at the same time, or around that time, when that needs changing?

>>> I plan to call my doctor?s office, to let them know I now have the 
>>> Libre system. The doctor told me to do this once I got it, and to come 
>>> in and they will help me with it.
>>> However, his office staff told me that, because I would be using it 
>>> differently, that I would have to learn it on my own. I think someone 
>>> was definitely mistaken there. LOL!

>>> I believe I got the 14 day system. So once I have a sensor on, can I 
>>> start using the device emediately? Or do I have to wait a certain 
>>> period of time, before this can happen?
>>> And once I go to use it, is there anything I need to do to prepare it, 
>>> so I receive the best blood sugar readings as possible?

>>> Anything you all can tell me, or think I should know, is very much 
>>> appreciated. I am very excited to be receiving this device. But as you 
>>> all can imagine, I am pretty nervous as well.

>>> Thank you,

>>> Terri
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb  6 01:44:31 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 20:44:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Even more questions regarding the Libre
Message-ID: <c99c34bc.757a.4bc1.8e51.a05ec5896f59@samobile.net>

Giggle why would you wash it smile.
It stays on for two weeks?
Good for you.

Original message:
> I have my sensor on my shoulder more on my arm. It?s still on the back 
> of my arm though I guess. I?m not really sure how to describe it.
> I don?t cover my sensor when I take a shower. I even use soap on it and 
> it seems fine.
> Amber

>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Hello everyone,

>> First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions. 
>> I really appreciate it, and it helped me a lot.

>> I have had my sensor on since yesterday. Things are going very well. 
>> The App on my phone works great. I find it easy to scan my sensor.
>> I just have a few more questions, though.

>> First of all, everything I have read, states that the sensor has to go 
>> on the back of your arm. What do you all think? Do you find this to be 
>> accurate? If I wanted to wear it on my arm, below my shoulder, might 
>> this be possible?

>> Also, when I take a shower, can I leave the sensor uncovered? Is it 
>> alright if it gets wet?

>> I appreciate all the help.

>> Thank you,

>> Terri

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:05 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> You did down load the app on your phone rite?
>>> That is the first step and you can do this even before you get the kit 
>>> in the mail or how ever it will come?
>>> Once you are registered with the company you can move forward.
>>> Yes even I learned how to put it on, I can send you steps privately if 
>>> no one has done it here.
>>> You then wait an hour and then test.
>>> The app will share that.
>>> I am thinking your doctors office doesn't know for sure what you are 
>>> doing, so to put it back on you doesn't surprise me.
>>> Wishing you the best.


>>> Original message:
>>>> Hello everyone,

>>>> I have more questions, regarding the Freestyle Libre. I hope you all 
>>>> won?t mind? And I hope some of you can help me out.

>>>> I have been approved for the Libre. It was shipped out yesterday. So I 
>>>> am really hoping that it won?t take long at all to get here.

>>>> When I receive it, what are some things I should know?
>>>> Can I start using it right away?
>>>> Or is it best to start at a certain time? And always change out the 
>>>> sensor at the same time, or around that time, when that needs changing?

>>>> I plan to call my doctor?s office, to let them know I now have the 
>>>> Libre system. The doctor told me to do this once I got it, and to come 
>>>> in and they will help me with it.
>>>> However, his office staff told me that, because I would be using it 
>>>> differently, that I would have to learn it on my own. I think someone 
>>>> was definitely mistaken there. LOL!

>>>> I believe I got the 14 day system. So once I have a sensor on, can I 
>>>> start using the device emediately? Or do I have to wait a certain 
>>>> period of time, before this can happen?
>>>> And once I go to use it, is there anything I need to do to prepare it, 
>>>> so I receive the best blood sugar readings as possible?

>>>> Anything you all can tell me, or think I should know, is very much 
>>>> appreciated. I am very excited to be receiving this device. But as you 
>>>> all can imagine, I am pretty nervous as well.

>>>> Thank you,

>>>> Terri
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40mysero.net

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From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 01:54:51 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 20:54:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Even more questions regarding the Libre
In-Reply-To: <c99c34bc.757a.4bc1.8e51.a05ec5896f59@samobile.net>
References: <c99c34bc.757a.4bc1.8e51.a05ec5896f59@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <E16BD1DC-4DF4-4792-8B84-8F9CA40EA5AD@gmail.com>

Well I?m just washing my body, and it gets in the way. So it gets washed as well. Towards the end of the two weeks it gets a little loose, but it has never come off.
Amber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 8:44 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Giggle why would you wash it smile.
> It stays on for two weeks?
> Good for you.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have my sensor on my shoulder more on my arm. It?s still on the back of my arm though I guess. I?m not really sure how to describe it.
>> I don?t cover my sensor when I take a shower. I even use soap on it and it seems fine.
>> Amber
> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Hello everyone,
> 
>>> First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions. I really appreciate it, and it helped me a lot.
> 
>>> I have had my sensor on since yesterday. Things are going very well. The App on my phone works great. I find it easy to scan my sensor.
>>> I just have a few more questions, though.
> 
>>> First of all, everything I have read, states that the sensor has to go on the back of your arm. What do you all think? Do you find this to be accurate? If I wanted to wear it on my arm, below my shoulder, might this be possible?
> 
>>> Also, when I take a shower, can I leave the sensor uncovered? Is it alright if it gets wet?
> 
>>> I appreciate all the help.
> 
>>> Thank you,
> 
>>> Terri
> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:05 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> You did down load the app on your phone rite?
>>>> That is the first step and you can do this even before you get the kit in the mail or how ever it will come?
>>>> Once you are registered with the company you can move forward.
>>>> Yes even I learned how to put it on, I can send you steps privately if no one has done it here.
>>>> You then wait an hour and then test.
>>>> The app will share that.
>>>> I am thinking your doctors office doesn't know for sure what you are doing, so to put it back on you doesn't surprise me.
>>>> Wishing you the best.
> 
> 
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Hello everyone,
> 
>>>>> I have more questions, regarding the Freestyle Libre. I hope you all won?t mind? And I hope some of you can help me out.
> 
>>>>> I have been approved for the Libre. It was shipped out yesterday. So I am really hoping that it won?t take long at all to get here.
> 
>>>>> When I receive it, what are some things I should know?
>>>>> Can I start using it right away?
>>>>> Or is it best to start at a certain time? And always change out the sensor at the same time, or around that time, when that needs changing?
> 
>>>>> I plan to call my doctor?s office, to let them know I now have the Libre system. The doctor told me to do this once I got it, and to come in and they will help me with it.
>>>>> However, his office staff told me that, because I would be using it differently, that I would have to learn it on my own. I think someone was definitely mistaken there. LOL!
> 
>>>>> I believe I got the 14 day system. So once I have a sensor on, can I start using the device emediately? Or do I have to wait a certain period of time, before this can happen?
>>>>> And once I go to use it, is there anything I need to do to prepare it, so I receive the best blood sugar readings as possible?
> 
>>>>> Anything you all can tell me, or think I should know, is very much appreciated. I am very excited to be receiving this device. But as you all can imagine, I am pretty nervous as well.
> 
>>>>> Thank you,
> 
>>>>> Terri
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 04:23:56 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 22:23:56 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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	<010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>
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No, insulin does not help you lose weight. In fact, it concerns me if non-diabetics are taking it, because hospitals use insulin if they need to induce a coma in extreme situations, so it's not a med to mess around with. A lot of times, before going on insulin, people experience weight loss because of high blood sugars and when they start insulin, the weight loss drops off because glucose levels are getting better; they think insulin is making them gain weight, but it's not the insulin at all, but it's the equalizing of glucose levels.

Some type 2 meds can assist with weight loss but not insulin like Novalog or Humalog.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
.  

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From letsdanceintx at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 06:46:30 2019
From: letsdanceintx at gmail.com (Veryln Baldwin)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 00:46:30 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
Message-ID: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 




From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 12:09:49 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 06:09:49 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
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References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010101d4be14$dc1d7b50$945871f0$@gmail.com>

Good morning Verlyn!  Unfortunately, the only accessible pump was the
Medtronic 530G, which they allowed Animas users to switch to up until Oct.
26, 2018.  You can ask them if they will still consider giving you one, but
they were pretty clear that we had until Oct. 26 to do the switch.  Those of
us using the Animas were put in this dilemma and knew we could not use the
630 that Medtronic offered to exchange our pumps for.  I think enough of us
complained about the inaccessibility of the 630, so they allowed us to
exchange our pumps for the 530G which was discontinued in June, 2018.  

Unless they still have the 530G available for you, there is no other
accessible pump.  Now, another member of our list, Veronica will talk to you
about her experience with using the Omnipod.  She has managed to figure out
a way to use it along with the Seeing AI app on her phone.  So, that may be
your only option at this point.  

				Jamie
  

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Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 12:47 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin <letsdanceintx at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 14:10:20 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 08:10:20 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01c901d4be25$b23a2750$16ae75f0$@gmail.com>

Veryln,

Unfortunately, there is currently no longer a pump on the market that's able
to work for totally blind people. I was using Animas and had the option to
switch to a Medtronic 530G, which does still have work-arounds for blind
diabetics, but after October of last year, Medtronic will no longer provide
a warranty for the 530G and it's phasing out this model. So of us who
switched in time only have 4 years before Medtronic will no longer support
the 530G.

Veronica, a member here, has been using the Omnipod successfully by using
the Seeing AI app to scan the remote you use to operate the pump, but my
understanding is it has been tedious. However, Omnipod is soon switching
it's DM to a smart device that likely will not be accessible at all, but
it's yet to be seen. She can speak with much more expertise on the Omnipod
though.

Sorry for this news; none of us pump users are happy and hope something will
change in the next 4 years, but I doubt it will.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veryln
Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 12:47 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin <letsdanceintx at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb  6 04:52:20 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 23:52:20 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net><012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>
	<010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3A30125DFB104D1CA1FB36FA531FF51E@eileen>

Gary,

In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.

My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!

Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:

Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The 
insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: gary-melconian 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From m.barber817 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 15:36:22 2019
From: m.barber817 at gmail.com (Michael Barber)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:36:22 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <3A30125DFB104D1CA1FB36FA531FF51E@eileen>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>
	<012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>
	<010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>
	<3A30125DFB104D1CA1FB36FA531FF51E@eileen>
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My A1C?s have been anywhere from 5.7 to 6.3 the past 2 or more years and I?ve still lost around 60 pounds.  I need to gain some of that back.
But I don?t know for sure what to do without raising my BG rates.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.
> 
> My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!
> 
> Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:
> 
> Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The 
> insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: gary-melconian 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
> .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.
> 
> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Gary,
> 
>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
>> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
>> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
>> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
>> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
>> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
>> probably producing some of your own insulin.
> 
>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.
> 
>> Good luck with this.
> 
>> Eileen
> 
>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb  6 15:44:40 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:44:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
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Verlyn,

I spoke with Medtronics only yesterday since my pump is now out of warrantee. From what the sales person told me, they might have recently made some adaptations to the 630G. I?m not sure I totally believe him, but ask your C.D.E. if the pump she is using is a new model of the 630G. You might want to schedule a meeting with a Medtronics rep to come and show you the pump and make sure they know you are blind or visually impaired. I would not accept a 630G model without first having the opportunity to try it out first-hand to see if a blind person can operate it independently.

Good luck.

Eileen
was

From: Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:46 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
Cc: Veryln Baldwin 
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 16:35:08 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:35:08 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Eileen,

That's strange and terrifying that body builders use insulin. My dad used to body build but never took insulin, and I couldn't find anything when I Googled it; thanks for sharing.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 10:52 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Gary,

In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.

My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!

Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:

Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 16:40:57 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:40:57 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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I've always been underweight for my age and size even as a kid, and I've been taking insulin since I was four. Even now, after 2 kids, I'm considered right where I should be weight-wise for my height, and I'm about 20 pounds over pre-pregnancy weight, and while I'm trying to take it off, I'm actually finally right where I should be according to BMI charts. So, it's not a hard and fast rule that diabetics will experience weight gain, especially if taking insulin. People have always commented how surprised they are that I'm not over-weight because I'm diabetic, and this always seems unusual and rude to me as being diabetic doesn't automatically equate to being over-weight. So as long as you're healthy and your doctor isn't concerned, I wouldn't worry about it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:36 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Michael Barber <m.barber817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

My A1C?s have been anywhere from 5.7 to 6.3 the past 2 or more years and I?ve still lost around 60 pounds.  I need to gain some of that back.
But I don?t know for sure what to do without raising my BG rates.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.
> 
> My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!
> 
> Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:
> 
> Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump 
> their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
> .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.
> 
> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Gary,
> 
>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by 
>> either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how 
>> you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out 
>> BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much 
>> of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs 
>> you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then 
>> you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.
> 
>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.
> 
>> Good luck with this.
> 
>> Eileen
> 
>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.
> 
> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb  6 16:54:44 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 11:54:44 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Bridgit,

Not all of them do, but some. Just like they use steroids which are addictive & dangerous. 

My husband did not use insulin nor steroids. But among people who are into body-building its common knowledge.

Eileen
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Eileen,

That's strange and terrifying that body builders use insulin. My dad used to body build but never took insulin, and I couldn't find anything when I Googled it; thanks for sharing.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Gary,

In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.

My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!

Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:

Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
.  

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No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

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Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
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> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb  6 17:02:26 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 12:02:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Right now, I am over weight, but it is hard for me if not impossible to get it off. I had never had weight issues in my life until I hit my 40?s and then started gaining. I do think it is harder for women & that women also have a harder time with it due to our hormones.

With that said, no matter if you are thin or over weight I have always found it incredibly rude for people to comment. When I was in my thinner days it never ceased to amaze me that people felt they could ask me what size I was or how much I weighed because I was small. Really stupid & rude! You should never comment on anyone?s size its just not appropriate.

Eileen


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Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I've always been underweight for my age and size even as a kid, and I've been taking insulin since I was four. Even now, after 2 kids, I'm considered right where I should be weight-wise for my height, and I'm about 20 pounds over pre-pregnancy weight, and while I'm trying to take it off, I'm actually finally right where I should be according to BMI charts. So, it's not a hard and fast rule that diabetics will experience weight gain, especially if taking insulin. People have always commented how surprised they are that I'm not over-weight because I'm diabetic, and this always seems unusual and rude to me as being diabetic doesn't automatically equate to being over-weight. So as long as you're healthy and your doctor isn't concerned, I wouldn't worry about it.

Bridgit

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My A1C?s have been anywhere from 5.7 to 6.3 the past 2 or more years and I?ve still lost around 60 pounds.  I need to gain some of that back.
But I don?t know for sure what to do without raising my BG rates.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.
> 
> My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!
> 
> Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:
> 
> Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump 
> their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
> .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
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> 
> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.
> 
> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Gary,
> 
>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by 
>> either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how 
>> you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out 
>> BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much 
>> of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs 
>> you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then 
>> you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.
> 
>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.
> 
>> Good luck with this.
> 
>> Eileen
> 
>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 17:00:58 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 11:00:58 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Eileen,

Of course, but it's still scary anyone would use a drug for anything other than its intended purpose.

My dad also did not use insulin or steroids but knew a lot of guys who did. My dad was an athlete and in addition to body building, he also played basketball, tennis, baseball and football. He played baseball and football at the collegiate level and tennis at the semi-pro level, so he was well aware of steroids and knew people who took them. As did I, since I did competitive swimming and running for years and know a lot of athletes, but I've never heard of anyone taking insulin for it too.

Bridgit

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Bridgit,

Not all of them do, but some. Just like they use steroids which are addictive & dangerous. 

My husband did not use insulin nor steroids. But among people who are into body-building its common knowledge.

Eileen
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:35 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Eileen,

That's strange and terrifying that body builders use insulin. My dad used to body build but never took insulin, and I couldn't find anything when I Googled it; thanks for sharing.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Gary,

In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.

My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!

Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:

Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.

Eileen

From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
.  

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No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.

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Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
I also am losing weight and love it.
Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.

Original message:
> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.

> -----Original Message-----
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> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Gary,

> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by either 
> your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how you 
> react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out BG?s. I 
> don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much of it to 
> take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs you might 
> eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then you?re 
> probably producing some of your own insulin.

> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
> nutritionist to help you work it all out.

> Good luck with this.

> Eileen

> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 18:05:15 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 12:05:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Yes, after 2 kids and almost 40, I'm finding it difficult to take off the remaining baby weight. Even though I'm not considered over weight at all, I'm still about 20 pounds where I was before kids, so I would like to take some of it off if not all of it. But I am aware that I'm not actually over weight. That being said, for those of us who have had kids, it changes your body, and while I will never look the way I did when 20, grin, I would like to get in better shape again. This is what comes from having kids in your 30s, ha!

Yes, it's incredibly rude for anyone to comment on size. We are working with our 6-year-old right now not to do this. Lately, if someone is heavier, he will point it out. He's not being mean, just stating what he observes, but nonetheless, it's not appropriate. But he's 6, not an adult. If you look a certain way, regardless if one way or the other, some people feel they have the right to comment

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:02 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Right now, I am over weight, but it is hard for me if not impossible to get it off. I had never had weight issues in my life until I hit my 40?s and then started gaining. I do think it is harder for women & that women also have a harder time with it due to our hormones.

With that said, no matter if you are thin or over weight I have always found it incredibly rude for people to comment. When I was in my thinner days it never ceased to amaze me that people felt they could ask me what size I was or how much I weighed because I was small. Really stupid & rude! You should never comment on anyone?s size its just not appropriate.

Eileen


From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I've always been underweight for my age and size even as a kid, and I've been taking insulin since I was four. Even now, after 2 kids, I'm considered right where I should be weight-wise for my height, and I'm about 20 pounds over pre-pregnancy weight, and while I'm trying to take it off, I'm actually finally right where I should be according to BMI charts. So, it's not a hard and fast rule that diabetics will experience weight gain, especially if taking insulin. People have always commented how surprised they are that I'm not over-weight because I'm diabetic, and this always seems unusual and rude to me as being diabetic doesn't automatically equate to being over-weight. So as long as you're healthy and your doctor isn't concerned, I wouldn't worry about it.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:36 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Michael Barber <m.barber817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

My A1C?s have been anywhere from 5.7 to 6.3 the past 2 or more years and I?ve still lost around 60 pounds.  I need to gain some of that back.
But I don?t know for sure what to do without raising my BG rates.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.
> 
> My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!
> 
> Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:
> 
> Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump 
> their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
> .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.
> 
> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Gary,
> 
>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by 
>> either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how 
>> you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out 
>> BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much 
>> of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs 
>> you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then 
>> you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.
> 
>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.
> 
>> Good luck with this.
> 
>> Eileen
> 
>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb  6 19:59:25 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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	<024d01d4be46$8350dd50$89f297f0$@gmail.com>
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You?re child is just being a kid, and kids are brutally honest. Its a different situation when adults say rude things.

Our society is much to concerned with weight & size ? in my opinion. Its great to be health concious and take care of yourself. On the other side of the coin though, I believe that you have to learn to be happy with yourself, your life and remember all the good things that are in your life. My life is good, I?m relatively healthy and try my best to take care of myself and watch my diet. I enjoy good food and eating with family so I?m not going to stop eating for vanity?s sake. At age 55 its not like I?m trying to impress anyone or trying to be a hot babe anymore <LOL>!

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Yes, after 2 kids and almost 40, I'm finding it difficult to take off the remaining baby weight. Even though I'm not considered over weight at all, I'm still about 20 pounds where I was before kids, so I would like to take some of it off if not all of it. But I am aware that I'm not actually over weight. That being said, for those of us who have had kids, it changes your body, and while I will never look the way I did when 20, grin, I would like to get in better shape again. This is what comes from having kids in your 30s, ha!

Yes, it's incredibly rude for anyone to comment on size. We are working with our 6-year-old right now not to do this. Lately, if someone is heavier, he will point it out. He's not being mean, just stating what he observes, but nonetheless, it's not appropriate. But he's 6, not an adult. If you look a certain way, regardless if one way or the other, some people feel they have the right to comment

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:02 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Right now, I am over weight, but it is hard for me if not impossible to get it off. I had never had weight issues in my life until I hit my 40?s and then started gaining. I do think it is harder for women & that women also have a harder time with it due to our hormones.

With that said, no matter if you are thin or over weight I have always found it incredibly rude for people to comment. When I was in my thinner days it never ceased to amaze me that people felt they could ask me what size I was or how much I weighed because I was small. Really stupid & rude! You should never comment on anyone?s size its just not appropriate.

Eileen


From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I've always been underweight for my age and size even as a kid, and I've been taking insulin since I was four. Even now, after 2 kids, I'm considered right where I should be weight-wise for my height, and I'm about 20 pounds over pre-pregnancy weight, and while I'm trying to take it off, I'm actually finally right where I should be according to BMI charts. So, it's not a hard and fast rule that diabetics will experience weight gain, especially if taking insulin. People have always commented how surprised they are that I'm not over-weight because I'm diabetic, and this always seems unusual and rude to me as being diabetic doesn't automatically equate to being over-weight. So as long as you're healthy and your doctor isn't concerned, I wouldn't worry about it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:36 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Michael Barber <m.barber817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

My A1C?s have been anywhere from 5.7 to 6.3 the past 2 or more years and I?ve still lost around 60 pounds.  I need to gain some of that back.
But I don?t know for sure what to do without raising my BG rates.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.
> 
> My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!
> 
> Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:
> 
> Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump 
> their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
> .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.
> 
> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Gary,
> 
>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by 
>> either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how 
>> you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out 
>> BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much 
>> of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs 
>> you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then 
>> you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.
> 
>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.
> 
>> Good luck with this.
> 
>> Eileen
> 
>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 20:07:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:07:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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Agree.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:59 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

You?re child is just being a kid, and kids are brutally honest. Its a different situation when adults say rude things.

Our society is much to concerned with weight & size ? in my opinion. Its great to be health concious and take care of yourself. On the other side of the coin though, I believe that you have to learn to be happy with yourself, your life and remember all the good things that are in your life. My life is good, I?m relatively healthy and try my best to take care of myself and watch my diet. I enjoy good food and eating with family so I?m not going to stop eating for vanity?s sake. At age 55 its not like I?m trying to impress anyone or trying to be a hot babe anymore <LOL>!

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Yes, after 2 kids and almost 40, I'm finding it difficult to take off the remaining baby weight. Even though I'm not considered over weight at all, I'm still about 20 pounds where I was before kids, so I would like to take some of it off if not all of it. But I am aware that I'm not actually over weight. That being said, for those of us who have had kids, it changes your body, and while I will never look the way I did when 20, grin, I would like to get in better shape again. This is what comes from having kids in your 30s, ha!

Yes, it's incredibly rude for anyone to comment on size. We are working with our 6-year-old right now not to do this. Lately, if someone is heavier, he will point it out. He's not being mean, just stating what he observes, but nonetheless, it's not appropriate. But he's 6, not an adult. If you look a certain way, regardless if one way or the other, some people feel they have the right to comment

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:02 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Right now, I am over weight, but it is hard for me if not impossible to get it off. I had never had weight issues in my life until I hit my 40?s and then started gaining. I do think it is harder for women & that women also have a harder time with it due to our hormones.

With that said, no matter if you are thin or over weight I have always found it incredibly rude for people to comment. When I was in my thinner days it never ceased to amaze me that people felt they could ask me what size I was or how much I weighed because I was small. Really stupid & rude! You should never comment on anyone?s size its just not appropriate.

Eileen


From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

I've always been underweight for my age and size even as a kid, and I've been taking insulin since I was four. Even now, after 2 kids, I'm considered right where I should be weight-wise for my height, and I'm about 20 pounds over pre-pregnancy weight, and while I'm trying to take it off, I'm actually finally right where I should be according to BMI charts. So, it's not a hard and fast rule that diabetics will experience weight gain, especially if taking insulin. People have always commented how surprised they are that I'm not over-weight because I'm diabetic, and this always seems unusual and rude to me as being diabetic doesn't automatically equate to being over-weight. So as long as you're healthy and your doctor isn't concerned, I wouldn't worry about it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Michael Barber via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:36 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Michael Barber <m.barber817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

My A1C?s have been anywhere from 5.7 to 6.3 the past 2 or more years and I?ve still lost around 60 pounds.  I need to gain some of that back.
But I don?t know for sure what to do without raising my BG rates.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> In us, the insulin not only lowers our BG levels but makes the body store fat. That is also why we as diabetics need to watch all the foods we eat, not just sugar and carbs. When our BG levels are out of control we tend to drop weight, once we start gaining better control with the use of insulin we tend to start putting weight on. When I started using my insulin pump I was told to expect approximately a 10 Lb weight gain.
> 
> My husband who was very physically fit & into lifting weights and working out knew all about t why body builders used insulin. Its a really stupid thing to do!
> 
> Body builders abuse Insulin. Insulin has anabolic effects. Here is what I found, of many results, on Google Chrome:
> 
> Bodybuilders use it -- often in combination with steroids -- to pump 
> their muscles full of staying power. It's estimated that one in four steroid abusers also take insulin. ... The insulin helps feed muscles during intense exercise, prevents muscle breakdown, and helps performance.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:35 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Then why do body builders take it if they want to lose weight and put on muscle I saw this on a youtube channel and I am not sure how valid it is. But I questioned that as  well. 
> .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:55 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> No, insulin doesn't help you lose weight.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:26 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
> Oh me that would be swell if that is what happened.
> I also am losing weight and love it.
> Sure can tell with the outfits I am wearing.
> 
> Original message:
>> Insulin doesn't make you lose weight; wish it did, grin. Perhaps if 
>> you're eating better it's helped you drop a few.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 10:05 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Thanks for t the advice.i will do this at my next appointment in a 
>> month.   Actually I have also lost weight as result of this as well.  
>> So don?t know but will od some research on the matter.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 7:31 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Gary,
> 
>> Usually there is an insulin to carb ratio that is determined by 
>> either your doctor or CDE that is working with you. It depends on how 
>> you react to the humalog and how much of it is needed to level out 
>> BG?s. I don?t think any one of us on the list can tell you how much 
>> of it to take it depends on your own requirements and how much carbs 
>> you might eat at a given meal. I forget, but if you are a type 2 then 
>> you?re probably producing some of your own insulin.
> 
>> You might want to ask your doctor to set you up with a Cde & a 
>> nutritionist to help you work it all out.
> 
>> Good luck with this.
> 
>> Eileen
> 
>> From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: gary-melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
> 
>> Here's my question for humolog.i have just started using this.my endo 
>> said to  just use 3  units of humolog and 6 units if I am eating a 
>> heavy meal.is this the correct approach to humolog or what's the 
>> correct approach to taking humolog before  meals.
> 
> 
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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 21:30:16 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:30:16 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
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  I'm on Medicare and am type 2.  I just went through getting my
Dexcom not that long ago.  I had to test my sugar 4 times a day for 30
days and keep a chart to turn into my Diabetes educater.  I also had
to be injecting 3 times a day, which between insulin and Victoza I do.
And I believe she put in some of my really high numbers from a while
back when I wasn't so well controled.  I'm thinking that in general
you might not have to inject 3 times a day, but that it's one of
Medicare's requirements.  Since I've had my Dexcom I've been going
down on how much insulin I need.  It's definitely been helpful.
Doula



From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb  6 21:55:47 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 16:55:47 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Even more questions regarding the Libre
Message-ID: <254941a7.1dc3.4f5d.8695.d172f5d2a3bd@samobile.net>

It is ok my friend just cracked me up.
Washing a cencer.

Original message:
> Well I?m just washing my body, and it gets in the way. So it gets 
> washed as well. Towards the end of the two weeks it gets a little 
> loose, but it has never come off.
> Amber

>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 8:44 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Giggle why would you wash it smile.
>> It stays on for two weeks?
>> Good for you.

>> Original message:
>>> I have my sensor on my shoulder more on my arm. It?s still on the back 
>>> of my arm though I guess. I?m not really sure how to describe it.
>>> I don?t cover my sensor when I take a shower. I even use soap on it and 
>>> it seems fine.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Hello everyone,

>>>> First of all, thank you to those of you who responded to my questions. 
>>>> I really appreciate it, and it helped me a lot.

>>>> I have had my sensor on since yesterday. Things are going very well. 
>>>> The App on my phone works great. I find it easy to scan my sensor.
>>>> I just have a few more questions, though.

>>>> First of all, everything I have read, states that the sensor has to go 
>>>> on the back of your arm. What do you all think? Do you find this to be 
>>>> accurate? If I wanted to wear it on my arm, below my shoulder, might 
>>>> this be possible?

>>>> Also, when I take a shower, can I leave the sensor uncovered? Is it 
>>>> alright if it gets wet?

>>>> I appreciate all the help.

>>>> Thank you,

>>>> Terri

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:05 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> You did down load the app on your phone rite?
>>>>> That is the first step and you can do this even before you get the kit 
>>>>> in the mail or how ever it will come?
>>>>> Once you are registered with the company you can move forward.
>>>>> Yes even I learned how to put it on, I can send you steps privately if 
>>>>> no one has done it here.
>>>>> You then wait an hour and then test.
>>>>> The app will share that.
>>>>> I am thinking your doctors office doesn't know for sure what you are 
>>>>> doing, so to put it back on you doesn't surprise me.
>>>>> Wishing you the best.


>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,

>>>>>> I have more questions, regarding the Freestyle Libre. I hope you all 
>>>>>> won?t mind? And I hope some of you can help me out.

>>>>>> I have been approved for the Libre. It was shipped out yesterday. So I 
>>>>>> am really hoping that it won?t take long at all to get here.

>>>>>> When I receive it, what are some things I should know?
>>>>>> Can I start using it right away?
>>>>>> Or is it best to start at a certain time? And always change out the 
>>>>>> sensor at the same time, or around that time, when that needs changing?

>>>>>> I plan to call my doctor?s office, to let them know I now have the 
>>>>>> Libre system. The doctor told me to do this once I got it, and to come 
>>>>>> in and they will help me with it.
>>>>>> However, his office staff told me that, because I would be using it 
>>>>>> differently, that I would have to learn it on my own. I think someone 
>>>>>> was definitely mistaken there. LOL!

>>>>>> I believe I got the 14 day system. So once I have a sensor on, can I 
>>>>>> start using the device emediately? Or do I have to wait a certain 
>>>>>> period of time, before this can happen?
>>>>>> And once I go to use it, is there anything I need to do to prepare it, 
>>>>>> so I receive the best blood sugar readings as possible?

>>>>>> Anything you all can tell me, or think I should know, is very much 
>>>>>> appreciated. I am very excited to be receiving this device. But as you 
>>>>>> all can imagine, I am pretty nervous as well.

>>>>>> Thank you,

>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
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>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 21:57:28 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 15:57:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTnSpS5TaJ=E_PnEDR4iHq_bxP_ZSmQQFSZJRAXcAVw8fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>	<012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>	<010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>	<3A30125DFB104D1CA1FB36FA531FF51E@eileen>	<4D681660-3D32-4089-A95E-79B96CBDD925@gmail.com>	<022a01d4be3a$bcd0fb20$3672f160$@gmail.com>	<0BEB2433A8B1407F80FF1685C3BEC239@eileen>
	<CAOZMXTnSpS5TaJ=E_PnEDR4iHq_bxP_ZSmQQFSZJRAXcAVw8fw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <021701d4be66$f42f9e10$dc8eda30$@gmail.com>

Those are also the Medicare requirements for getting my insulin pump
supplies covered by Medicare.  For the first time in 20 years, Medicare is
paying for my pump supplies.  So, I had to provide a 30 day log of my blood
sugars, proof that I am diabetic--my doctor laughed at this one.  I had to
do a C-peptide test along with blood work to prove that my pancreas does not
work, and I've been a diabetic for 50 years!  Since I have been on a pump
for 20 years, I already had the proof that I needed at least four injections
a day.  

Luckily, since I have been using a Dexcom, they could pull my readings from
it for the blood sugar log.  I am, however still waiting for my order to be
shipped.  They have not received the correct office notes from my doctor.
I've called three times now about my order, and I'm fortunate that the
Medtronic rep sent me a complimentary box of infusion sets.  I placed my
order on Jan. 11 and it is still being processed due to all of the Medicare
requirements.  


They assured me that it will not take this long in the future, since I will
have passed all of the Medicare requirements after this order is finally
approved for shipping.  



				Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

  I'm on Medicare and am type 2.  I just went through getting my Dexcom not
that long ago.  I had to test my sugar 4 times a day for 30 days and keep a
chart to turn into my Diabetes educater.  I also had to be injecting 3 times
a day, which between insulin and Victoza I do.
And I believe she put in some of my really high numbers from a while back
when I wasn't so well controled.  I'm thinking that in general you might not
have to inject 3 times a day, but that it's one of Medicare's requirements.
Since I've had my Dexcom I've been going down on how much insulin I need.
It's definitely been helpful.
Doula

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 22:13:11 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:13:11 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <021701d4be66$f42f9e10$dc8eda30$@gmail.com>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>	<012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>	<010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>	<3A30125DFB104D1CA1FB36FA531FF51E@eileen>	<4D681660-3D32-4089-A95E-79B96CBDD925@gmail.com>	<022a01d4be3a$bcd0fb20$3672f160$@gmail.com>	<0BEB2433A8B1407F80FF1685C3BEC239@eileen>	<CAOZMXTnSpS5TaJ=E_PnEDR4iHq_bxP_ZSmQQFSZJRAXcAVw8fw@mail.gmail.com>
	<021701d4be66$f42f9e10$dc8eda30$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006701d4be69$2c4770f0$84d652d0$@gmail.com>

I had to do the same thing.if you're a diabetic there is no way that you can
fool this one.i don't get some of these insurance providers and the hoops we
have to jump through to get some of these supplies like insulin pumps and
cgms.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Those are also the Medicare requirements for getting my insulin pump
supplies covered by Medicare.  For the first time in 20 years, Medicare is
paying for my pump supplies.  So, I had to provide a 30 day log of my blood
sugars, proof that I am diabetic--my doctor laughed at this one.  I had to
do a C-peptide test along with blood work to prove that my pancreas does not
work, and I've been a diabetic for 50 years!  Since I have been on a pump
for 20 years, I already had the proof that I needed at least four injections
a day.  

Luckily, since I have been using a Dexcom, they could pull my readings from
it for the blood sugar log.  I am, however still waiting for my order to be
shipped.  They have not received the correct office notes from my doctor.
I've called three times now about my order, and I'm fortunate that the
Medtronic rep sent me a complimentary box of infusion sets.  I placed my
order on Jan. 11 and it is still being processed due to all of the Medicare
requirements.  


They assured me that it will not take this long in the future, since I will
have passed all of the Medicare requirements after this order is finally
approved for shipping.  



				Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

  I'm on Medicare and am type 2.  I just went through getting my Dexcom not
that long ago.  I had to test my sugar 4 times a day for 30 days and keep a
chart to turn into my Diabetes educater.  I also had to be injecting 3 times
a day, which between insulin and Victoza I do.
And I believe she put in some of my really high numbers from a while back
when I wasn't so well controled.  I'm thinking that in general you might not
have to inject 3 times a day, but that it's one of Medicare's requirements.
Since I've had my Dexcom I've been going down on how much insulin I need.
It's definitely been helpful.
Doula

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb  6 22:48:33 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:48:33 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> 
It is definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither
was the Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping
track of where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I
could on the Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many
things on the screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read
insulin on board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check
myself as I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a
straight insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to
make sure I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out
can get you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a
learning curve with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach
around to the back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the
stupid tape. But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 22:52:54 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:52:54 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com
In-Reply-To: <021701d4be66$f42f9e10$dc8eda30$@gmail.com>
References: <e85cc9a1.5853.4af3.b8a3.0d62f6939dc8@samobile.net>	<012401d4bd9d$71073580$5315a080$@gmail.com>	<010f01d4bdbc$3c41bef0$b4c53cd0$@gmail.com>	<3A30125DFB104D1CA1FB36FA531FF51E@eileen>	<4D681660-3D32-4089-A95E-79B96CBDD925@gmail.com>	<022a01d4be3a$bcd0fb20$3672f160$@gmail.com>	<0BEB2433A8B1407F80FF1685C3BEC239@eileen>	<CAOZMXTnSpS5TaJ=E_PnEDR4iHq_bxP_ZSmQQFSZJRAXcAVw8fw@mail.gmail.com>
	<021701d4be66$f42f9e10$dc8eda30$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000701d4be6e$b2e6fef0$18b4fcd0$@gmail.com>

I had to do the same thing.if you're a diabetic there is no way that you can
fool this one.i don't get some of these insurance providers and the hoops we
have to jump through to get some of these supplies like insulin pumps and
cgms.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

Those are also the Medicare requirements for getting my insulin pump
supplies covered by Medicare.  For the first time in 20 years, Medicare is
paying for my pump supplies.  So, I had to provide a 30 day log of my blood
sugars, proof that I am diabetic--my doctor laughed at this one.  I had to
do a C-peptide test along with blood work to prove that my pancreas does not
work, and I've been a diabetic for 50 years!  Since I have been on a pump
for 20 years, I already had the proof that I needed at least four injections
a day.  

Luckily, since I have been using a Dexcom, they could pull my readings from
it for the blood sugar log.  I am, however still waiting for my order to be
shipped.  They have not received the correct office notes from my doctor.
I've called three times now about my order, and I'm fortunate that the
Medtronic rep sent me a complimentary box of infusion sets.  I placed my
order on Jan. 11 and it is still being processed due to all of the Medicare
requirements.  


They assured me that it will not take this long in the future, since I will
have passed all of the Medicare requirements after this order is finally
approved for shipping.  



				Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] dex com

  I'm on Medicare and am type 2.  I just went through getting my Dexcom not
that long ago.  I had to test my sugar 4 times a day for 30 days and keep a
chart to turn into my Diabetes educater.  I also had to be injecting 3 times
a day, which between insulin and Victoza I do.
And I believe she put in some of my really high numbers from a while back
when I wasn't so well controled.  I'm thinking that in general you might not
have to inject 3 times a day, but that it's one of Medicare's requirements.
Since I've had my Dexcom I've been going down on how much insulin I need.
It's definitely been helpful.
Doula

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 22:50:47 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 16:50:47 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>
	<000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>

That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't
do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change
the cartridge on his own?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is
definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the
Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of
where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the
Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the
screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on
board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as
I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure
I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get
you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve
with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the
back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Feb  7 00:39:24 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:39:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com><000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B01DA9C64EE54DD6A3D1FA46CC65CE2A@eileen>

Veronica & Bridgit,

Just to clarify, are you talking about a Medtronics 730G or did you mean the 630G? So far as I am aware it is the 630G that is their latest & greatest ? I?m not sure there is a 730G.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't
do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change
the cartridge on his own?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is
definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the
Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of
where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the
Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the
screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on
board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as
I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure
I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get
you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve
with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the
back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 01:13:21 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:13:21 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <B01DA9C64EE54DD6A3D1FA46CC65CE2A@eileen>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com><000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
	<B01DA9C64EE54DD6A3D1FA46CC65CE2A@eileen>
Message-ID: <032801d4be82$51b9e430$f52dac90$@gmail.com>

There is a 630G and 730G.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:39 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Veronica & Bridgit,

Just to clarify, are you talking about a Medtronics 730G or did you mean the 630G? So far as I am aware it is the 630G that is their latest & greatest ? I?m not sure there is a 730G.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change the cartridge on his own?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb  7 01:24:52 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 20:24:52 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
Message-ID: <d6137ccd.5e8b.432c.b3cf.f515f86d85cf@samobile.net>

One of the falts I have is this,
If my doctor is giving me medicin for being a diabetic, then why on 
gravy do I have to stick myself three to six times a day to prove I am 
a diabetic.
I know there are folks who say they are something and then find out 
they are not.
Where a doctor can't just give medicine to anyone can they with out 
getting themselves into trouble when caught?
When I started as a diabetic I didn't have a problem sticking that much.
Now years later I do.
I would rather play guitar than to stick that many times.
I do test but not that often.
Just my thoughts.

-- 
--Dar
skype: dmgina23
  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future



From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Feb  7 03:07:26 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:07:26 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>	<000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001d4be92$41133ef0$c339bcd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Bridgit, he can't actually unlock the pump. It's just that if he holds down
the up-arrow, it goes into a mode where he can deliver a bolus. But that's
absolutely the only thing he can do. He cannot change the cartridge, or
reservoir as Medtronic calls it.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't
do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change
the cartridge on his own?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is
definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the
Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of
where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the
Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the
screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on
board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as
I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure
I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get
you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve
with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the
back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Feb  7 03:08:05 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:08:05 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <B01DA9C64EE54DD6A3D1FA46CC65CE2A@eileen>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com><000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
	<B01DA9C64EE54DD6A3D1FA46CC65CE2A@eileen>
Message-ID: <002201d4be92$5895c520$09c14f60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Oh yes, there is a 730G. The 630 is the model from two years ago.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 4:39 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Veronica & Bridgit,

Just to clarify, are you talking about a Medtronics 730G or did you mean the 630G? So far as I am aware it is the 630G that is their latest & greatest ? I?m not sure there is a 730G.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't
do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change
the cartridge on his own?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is
definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the
Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of
where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the
Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the
screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on
board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as
I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure
I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get
you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve
with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the
back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb  7 03:16:11 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 22:16:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
Message-ID: <3e00be16.089d.412a.b566.4022d4ac618b@samobile.net>

Why is it different than what it used to be, nothing to feel to change it?
Interesting.

Original message:
> Bridgit, he can't actually unlock the pump. It's just that if he holds down
> the up-arrow, it goes into a mode where he can deliver a bolus. But that's
> absolutely the only thing he can do. He cannot change the cartridge, or
> reservoir as Medtronic calls it.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:51 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't
> do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change
> the cartridge on his own?

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> Hi Verlyn.
> Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
> Before that, I used the Cozmo.
> As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
> has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
> that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is
> definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the
> Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of
> where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the
> Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the
> screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on
> board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as
> I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
> insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure
> I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get
> you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve
> with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the
> back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
> But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
> Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
> they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
> I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
> can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
> up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
> However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
> cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
> I could do independently was a basic bolus.
> As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
> definitely out there.
> If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
> contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Veryln Baldwin
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> Hi Group,

> I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
> has already been addressed.

> Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
> individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
> of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
> fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
> stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
> The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
> I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
> this time that this is not possible.

> Any comments are greatly appreciated.

> Blessings,

> Verlyn


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 04:09:44 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:09:44 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
In-Reply-To: <d6137ccd.5e8b.432c.b3cf.f515f86d85cf@samobile.net>
References: <d6137ccd.5e8b.432c.b3cf.f515f86d85cf@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <034d01d4be9a$f5569440$e003bcc0$@gmail.com>

Insurance providers want proof in the form of lab tests and documentation,
not just your word. Silly, because, who wants a meter or pump if you're not
diabetic? Although, people would do this to give the devices to people who
actually need them but whom can't afford insurance or their insurance
doesn't cover certain things. But god forbid insurance companies actually
help people and not make money.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 7:25 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare

One of the falts I have is this,
If my doctor is giving me medicin for being a diabetic, then why on gravy do
I have to stick myself three to six times a day to prove I am a diabetic.
I know there are folks who say they are something and then find out they are
not.
Where a doctor can't just give medicine to anyone can they with out getting
themselves into trouble when caught?
When I started as a diabetic I didn't have a problem sticking that much.
Now years later I do.
I would rather play guitar than to stick that many times.
I do test but not that often.
Just my thoughts.

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 04:10:44 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:10:44 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <002001d4be92$41133ef0$c339bcd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000601d4bde7$b2798370$176c8a50$@gmail.com>	<000d01d4be6e$16c9c930$445d5b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02fe01d4be6e$67387420$35a95c60$@gmail.com>
	<002001d4be92$41133ef0$c339bcd0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <035501d4be9b$196d9f90$4c48deb0$@gmail.com>

Oh, gotcha. Yep, not a solution at all for me. I'm not waiting around for
someone to show up to help me do a reservoir change.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Bridgit, he can't actually unlock the pump. It's just that if he holds down
the up-arrow, it goes into a mode where he can deliver a bolus. But that's
absolutely the only thing he can do. He cannot change the cartridge, or
reservoir as Medtronic calls it.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he can't
do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at least change
the cartridge on his own?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Verlyn.
Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
Before that, I used the Cozmo. 
As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like it. It
has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to like the fact
that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in public. <grin> It is
definitely not what you'd call an accessible pump, but then, neither was the
Animas. So it's the same deal of counting button pushes and keeping track of
where you are. But I can actually do more things with it than I could on the
Animas. I can use the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the
screen. So I can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on
board, time of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as
I'm manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make sure
I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing out can get
you if you're in the midst of a press. There was definitely a learning curve
with this one and moments of frustration as I try to reach around to the
back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't wrinkle the stupid tape.
But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, but
they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long time.
I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said that he
can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding down the
up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button pushes.
However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill the
cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the only thing
I could do independently was a basic bolus. 
As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so we're
definitely out there. 
If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you my
contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Hi Group,

I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this topic
has already been addressed.

Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally blind
individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing the majority
of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with the Animas company
fading out their technical help at the end of September 2019 and have
stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a way that
I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have determined at
this time that this is not possible.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Verlyn 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 04:14:51 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:14:51 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
In-Reply-To: <3e00be16.089d.412a.b566.4022d4ac618b@samobile.net>
References: <3e00be16.089d.412a.b566.4022d4ac618b@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <035601d4be9b$ac3cc8a0$04b659e0$@gmail.com>

It's not the lack of tactile buttons, although this is a problem, but that
you have to press a certain spot on the screen just to unlock the pump to do
anything with it, but the area of the screen you press isn't the same spot
every time. Not sure why they would make it this way even for sighted
people.

The way of the world is going towards touch screens. Almost all tech whether
medical, computers and even kitchen appliances is now creating touch screen
tech. It would be super easy to adapt like Apple has done, but few have
followed Apple's lead. If I can do all manner of things on my phone from
texting to social media to shopping and paying bills, there's no reason why
I can't use my insulin pump fully.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:16 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

Why is it different than what it used to be, nothing to feel to change it?
Interesting.

Original message:
> Bridgit, he can't actually unlock the pump. It's just that if he holds 
> down the up-arrow, it goes into a mode where he can deliver a bolus. 
> But that's absolutely the only thing he can do. He cannot change the 
> cartridge, or reservoir as Medtronic calls it.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:51 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he 
> can't do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at 
> least change the cartridge on his own?

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> Hi Verlyn.
> Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
> Before that, I used the Cozmo.
> As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like 
> it. It has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to 
> like the fact that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in 
> public. <grin> It is definitely not what you'd call an accessible 
> pump, but then, neither was the Animas. So it's the same deal of 
> counting button pushes and keeping track of where you are. But I can 
> actually do more things with it than I could on the Animas. I can use 
> the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the screen. So I 
> can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on board, time 
> of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as I'm 
> manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight 
> insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make 
> sure I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing 
> out can get you if you're in the midst of a press. There was 
> definitely a learning curve with this one and moments of frustration as I
try to reach around to the back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't
wrinkle the stupid tape.
> But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
> Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen, 
> but they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long
time.
> I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said 
> that he can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding 
> down the up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button
pushes.
> However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill 
> the cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the 
> only thing I could do independently was a basic bolus.
> As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so 
> we're definitely out there.
> If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you 
> my contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Veryln Baldwin
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> Hi Group,

> I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this 
> topic has already been addressed.

> Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally 
> blind individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing 
> the majority of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with 
> the Animas company fading out their technical help at the end of 
> September 2019 and have stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
> The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a 
> way that I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have 
> determined at this time that this is not possible.

> Any comments are greatly appreciated.

> Blessings,

> Verlyn


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb  7 04:29:49 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 23:29:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping
Message-ID: <e03fd8f2.37ac.415b.a6ab.788ff37504f0@samobile.net>

Now before you know it, you can ask Alexa to go to where you want to go 
on the pump.
She is starting to do other things, so why not.

Original message:
> It's not the lack of tactile buttons, although this is a problem, but that
> you have to press a certain spot on the screen just to unlock the pump to do
> anything with it, but the area of the screen you press isn't the same spot
> every time. Not sure why they would make it this way even for sighted
> people.

> The way of the world is going towards touch screens. Almost all tech whether
> medical, computers and even kitchen appliances is now creating touch screen
> tech. It would be super easy to adapt like Apple has done, but few have
> followed Apple's lead. If I can do all manner of things on my phone from
> texting to social media to shopping and paying bills, there's no reason why
> I can't use my insulin pump fully.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:16 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

> Why is it different than what it used to be, nothing to feel to change it?
> Interesting.

> Original message:
>> Bridgit, he can't actually unlock the pump. It's just that if he holds
>> down the up-arrow, it goes into a mode where he can deliver a bolus.
>> But that's absolutely the only thing he can do. He cannot change the
>> cartridge, or reservoir as Medtronic calls it.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 2:51 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

>> That's interesting he is able to unlock the 730G Medtronic, but if he
>> can't do anything else, I don't know how I feel about that. Can he at
>> least change the cartridge on his own?

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:49 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

>> Hi Verlyn.
>> Yep! There were a bunch of us using the Animas Ping or Vibe on this list.
>> Before that, I used the Cozmo.
>> As has already been mentioned, I am using the Omnipod and I do like
>> it. It has no tubing and is run via a remote. I've really gotten to
>> like the fact that I don't have to half undress to use my pump in
>> public. <grin> It is definitely not what you'd call an accessible
>> pump, but then, neither was the Animas. So it's the same deal of
>> counting button pushes and keeping track of where you are. But I can
>> actually do more things with it than I could on the Animas. I can use
>> the Seeing AI app on my phone to read many things on the screen. So I
>> can get reminders of when my pod expires, read insulin on board, time
>> of my last bolus, read my settings and double-check myself as I'm
>> manually entering either blood sugars, car abounts, or just a straight
>> insulin dosage. When I'm changing a pod, I use the phone app to make
>> sure I'm on the screen I think I'm on because the dimming or timing
>> out can get you if you're in the midst of a press. There was
>> definitely a learning curve with this one and moments of frustration as I
> try to reach around to the back of my arm to put the pod on, hoping I don't
> wrinkle the stupid tape.
>> But I am totally blind and do not use help with the Omnipod.
>> Yes, they're slowly rolling out a new remote which is a touch screen,
>> but they are assuring me that they plan to keep the current one for a long
> time.
>> I do know one person wearing a Medtronic 730G who is blind. He said
>> that he can do a bolus without unlocking the pump. It involves holding
>> down the up-arrow till the pump vibrates and then starting to count button
> pushes.
>> However, unlike the older Medtronic pumps, he says he cannot even fill
>> the cartridge without help. Yikes! I would not wear a pump where the
>> only thing I could do independently was a basic bolus.
>> As you probably know, the Tandem T-slim is completely touch screen so
>> we're definitely out there.
>> If you'd like to talk to me more, just let me know and I'll send you
>> my contact info. I sure wish the news were better.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:47 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Veryln Baldwin
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] transitioning from Animas Ping

>> Hi Group,

>> I am brand new to this group as of today. Please forgive me if this
>> topic has already been addressed.

>> Can anyone tell me which insulin pump(s) are accessible for a totally
>> blind individual? I have been using pumps since 2000.  I am guessing
>> the majority of you are familiar with the unfortunate situation with
>> the Animas company fading out their technical help at the end of
>> September 2019 and have stopped manufacturing any more pumps.
>> The diabetic educator and I attempted for two hours to figure out a
>> way that I could use the Medtronic 630 completely indecently. We have
>> determined at this time that this is not possible.

>> Any comments are greatly appreciated.

>> Blessings,

>> Verlyn


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From letsdanceintx at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 04:54:22 2019
From: letsdanceintx at gmail.com (Veryln Baldwin)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:54:22 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
Message-ID: <002401d4bea1$3273f7e0$975be7a0$@gmail.com>

Thank you to everyone that responded.

I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they were
not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to someone who had
never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for replacement for any 730G
users that may have trouble with their current pump. 
I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I will
be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this model.

Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use the
Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to give me a
prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of basal rates I
use the pens will not work out either. Such a encouraging visit as her last
comment was, "I don't know anything that might work." You can just imagine
how that made feel. She is a great Endocrinologist who has a passion for
diabetic education. However, I am the only totally blind patient she has had
in all her years of practice.

I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next year
one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

Blessings,

Verlyn




From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb  7 05:00:19 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 00:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
Message-ID: <c23e41ae.eec3.4ddb.ac02.268ef0b62940@samobile.net>

Many times you might need to go above doctor.
I have done that, keep moving up.
They will learn that you know how to make noise and it is time for her 
to learn something from you.
If this doesn't work, then go to a different doctor who will listen to you.
This is one of the neat things about the group.
They want all of us to have the best long life we can have.
Blessings,

Original message:
> Thank you to everyone that responded.

> I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they were
> not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to someone who had
> never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for replacement for any 730G
> users that may have trouble with their current pump.
> I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I will
> be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this model.

> Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
> emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
> The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use the
> Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to give me a
> prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of basal rates I
> use the pens will not work out either. Such a encouraging visit as her last
> comment was, "I don't know anything that might work." You can just imagine
> how that made feel. She is a great Endocrinologist who has a passion for
> diabetic education. However, I am the only totally blind patient she has had
> in all her years of practice.

> I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next year
> one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

> Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

> Blessings,

> Verlyn


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 06:17:49 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 00:17:49 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
In-Reply-To: <002401d4bea1$3273f7e0$975be7a0$@gmail.com>
References: <002401d4bea1$3273f7e0$975be7a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <035b01d4beac$da50d590$8ef280b0$@gmail.com>

Verlyn,

Do you mean you spoke to Medtronic about the 530G? The 730G is its newest
model, and it would be able to supply one for a new patient; I'm assuming
it's the 530Gs they have in stock they are keeping for those of us who have
it, so if we need a replacement since it will no longer manufactor the 530G,
but it's fully steam ahead on manufacturing the 730G. So, I'm confused as to
why a new patient couldn't get a 730G.

I would love to think a fully accessible pump would be on the market soon,
but it's not likely. I've been waiting 16 years for this, and it's nowhere
near happening. Prodigy had been working on a fully accessible talking pump
several years ago but then suddenly stopped and has no intention of starting
it back up. Currently, no pump company is even working on accessibility for
a pump, so a year from now is definitely not going to happen. The easiest
solution would be for the T Slim or Medtronic to adopt a voice-over program
like what Apple uses, and like our iPhones and iPads, it would be a feature
you can turn on if you need it. We don't necessarily need an entirely
separate pump for blind people. We can still dream and fight for a better,
equal future as blind diabetics though.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veryln
Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:54 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin <letsdanceintx at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

Thank you to everyone that responded.

I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they were
not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to someone who had
never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for replacement for any 730G
users that may have trouble with their current pump. 
I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I will
be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this model.

Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use the
Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to give me a
prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of basal rates I
use the pens will not work out either. Such a encouraging visit as her last
comment was, "I don't know anything that might work." You can just imagine
how that made feel. She is a great Endocrinologist who has a passion for
diabetic education. However, I am the only totally blind patient she has had
in all her years of practice.

I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next year
one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

Blessings,

Verlyn


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From magills at bigpond.com  Thu Feb  7 12:31:46 2019
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 23:31:46 +1100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] further to,
 Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop of blood
Message-ID: <007001d4bee1$1762d8a0$462889e0$@bigpond.com>

Hi all,

 

While the talking meters are quite good, I find getting the test strip on to
the drop of blood can be, at times, very frustrating!  

 

So I followed up on the new Aira service at:

 

https://aira.io/

 

and decided to download the app from the appstore on my iPhone and use the 7
day free trial to check whether the agent could see the drop of blood, and
guide me to it with the test strip.

 

Success!

 

I had jerry rigged a stand to hold the iPhone so it was looking down on the
bench where I would put my finger.  

 

I explained to the agent what was going on, used the lancet and asked the
agent whether the drop was bigger than the head of a pin, then put the test
strip on the end of my finger, and asked for guidance to the drop.

 

She said things like, left a little, right a little, push it further etc,
until we made contact!

 

It also works with Android.

 

The system is not cheap, but when I can sometimes use 6 or more test strips,
and twice as many pricks, to get a single reading, it will come in handy
from time to time.  Considering, that here in Australia, the Dexcom CGM,
which I would prefer, costs over $5000 per year, so I will give the Aira
system a go for a while.  It also has nany other uses.

 

I am still trying to find someone to make the plastic ring I mentioned in my
initial post re this...

 

 

Regards,

Paul in Australia.

 

 



From jdashiel at panix.com  Thu Feb  7 14:36:31 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:36:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>

Medicare is an insurance carrier as are others.  The reason for requiring
finger sticks from 3 to 6 times a day is not to continue to prove anyone
is a diabetic.  The reason for this requirement is to monitor your control
of your diabetes and the effectiveness of whatever prescription medicines
you take for the diabetes and associated conditions.



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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 15:02:50 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:02:50 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <DBA732D0-D8E0-4DD8-B33D-EBC18E9EA3E3@gmail.com>

Yes, I totally understand that. The C-peptide test is to show that your pancreas is not producing enough insulin though. This was required for me to be able to initially obtain the insulin pump.


    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Medicare is an insurance carrier as are others.  The reason for requiring
> finger sticks from 3 to 6 times a day is not to continue to prove anyone
> is a diabetic.  The reason for this requirement is to monitor your control
> of your diabetes and the effectiveness of whatever prescription medicines
> you take for the diabetes and associated conditions.
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 15:40:06 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:40:06 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <03c101d4befb$66ab7b50$340271f0$@gmail.com>

My endo has confirmed it's to prove someone has certain conditions if under
coverage. It's always been as frustrating for them as for me that I have to
supply so much to insurance to get things like insulin pumps. I'm type 1;
it's not going away or getting better without the aid of insulin and
testing. I've been supplying this info for decades now, often to the same
provider.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:37 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare

Medicare is an insurance carrier as are others.  The reason for requiring
finger sticks from 3 to 6 times a day is not to continue to prove anyone is
a diabetic.  The reason for this requirement is to monitor your control of
your diabetes and the effectiveness of whatever prescription medicines you
take for the diabetes and associated conditions.



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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb  7 15:48:26 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 10:48:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] further to,
 Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop of blood
Message-ID: <859604a1.b868.4885.9040.93ca9e2701e4@samobile.net>

Good for you,
I haven't heard of this before,
Glad she was able to help you out.

Original message:
> Hi all,



> While the talking meters are quite good, I find getting the test strip on to
> the drop of blood can be, at times, very frustrating!



> So I followed up on the new Aira service at:



> https://aira.io/



> and decided to download the app from the appstore on my iPhone and use the 7
> day free trial to check whether the agent could see the drop of blood, and
> guide me to it with the test strip.



> Success!



> I had jerry rigged a stand to hold the iPhone so it was looking down on the
> bench where I would put my finger.



> I explained to the agent what was going on, used the lancet and asked the
> agent whether the drop was bigger than the head of a pin, then put the test
> strip on the end of my finger, and asked for guidance to the drop.



> She said things like, left a little, right a little, push it further etc,
> until we made contact!



> It also works with Android.



> The system is not cheap, but when I can sometimes use 6 or more test strips,
> and twice as many pricks, to get a single reading, it will come in handy
> from time to time.  Considering, that here in Australia, the Dexcom CGM,
> which I would prefer, costs over $5000 per year, so I will give the Aira
> system a go for a while.  It also has nany other uses.



> I am still trying to find someone to make the plastic ring I mentioned in my
> initial post re this...





> Regards,

> Paul in Australia.





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From jdashiel at panix.com  Thu Feb  7 17:07:27 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 12:07:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] further to,
 Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop of blood
In-Reply-To: <007001d4bee1$1762d8a0$462889e0$@bigpond.com>
References: <007001d4bee1$1762d8a0$462889e0$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902071206450.28324@panix1.panix.com>

You could have that service from be my eyes too and the price difference
may eventually be attractive.

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 07:31:46
> From: Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] further to,
>     Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop of blood
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> While the talking meters are quite good, I find getting the test strip on to
> the drop of blood can be, at times, very frustrating!
>
>
>
> So I followed up on the new Aira service at:
>
>
>
> https://aira.io/
>
>
>
> and decided to download the app from the appstore on my iPhone and use the 7
> day free trial to check whether the agent could see the drop of blood, and
> guide me to it with the test strip.
>
>
>
> Success!
>
>
>
> I had jerry rigged a stand to hold the iPhone so it was looking down on the
> bench where I would put my finger.
>
>
>
> I explained to the agent what was going on, used the lancet and asked the
> agent whether the drop was bigger than the head of a pin, then put the test
> strip on the end of my finger, and asked for guidance to the drop.
>
>
>
> She said things like, left a little, right a little, push it further etc,
> until we made contact!
>
>
>
> It also works with Android.
>
>
>
> The system is not cheap, but when I can sometimes use 6 or more test strips,
> and twice as many pricks, to get a single reading, it will come in handy
> from time to time.  Considering, that here in Australia, the Dexcom CGM,
> which I would prefer, costs over $5000 per year, so I will give the Aira
> system a go for a while.  It also has nany other uses.
>
>
>
> I am still trying to find someone to make the plastic ring I mentioned in my
> initial post re this...
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul in Australia.
>
>
>
>
>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Feb  7 22:05:41 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:05:41 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
In-Reply-To: <DBA732D0-D8E0-4DD8-B33D-EBC18E9EA3E3@gmail.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>
	<DBA732D0-D8E0-4DD8-B33D-EBC18E9EA3E3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005c01d4bf31$43ebb310$cbc31930$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I don't believe this for a minute. If I thought Medicare had half the staff
available to actually look at all of this information we send, I would say
we had too many government employees. They just want to make sure they spend
as little money as possible and heavens! Why believe a doctor that a person
has a certain permanent condition. Makes no sense to me that I have to
repeat a stupid C peptide test when I'd done one ten years ago. Never heard
of that result changing for a type 1 diabetic. This business of only
allowing the exact amount of strips matching the number of tests you say you
do, this shows how little they know about living with finger sticks on a
daily basis. And for things like my Omnipod, would you believe, the pods
have to have different packaging for those of us on Medicare. So if you have
real insurance, you get pods in boxes of ten. If you have Medicare, you get
boxes of five. I mean really, we couldn't have anyone accidentally get one
more pod than the absolute minimum necessary. 
And for my rheumatoid arthritis I take Enbrel, which is an injectable drug.
It comes in a pen, same dosage for everyone. You just pull off the cap, hold
against your skin and push the button. No choice on what to do. Yet after my
month-long battle to get the drug covered, I have been told I can have 3.92
doses per 30 days. Huh? I should have 4 every 28 days, one per week. This
just shows how ridiculous this bureaucracy has become. I don't believe for
one minute that anyone really cares about how I'm managing. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 7:03 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare

Yes, I totally understand that. The C-peptide test is to show that your
pancreas is not producing enough insulin though. This was required for me to
be able to initially obtain the insulin pump.


    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Medicare is an insurance carrier as are others.  The reason for requiring
> finger sticks from 3 to 6 times a day is not to continue to prove anyone
> is a diabetic.  The reason for this requirement is to monitor your control
> of your diabetes and the effectiveness of whatever prescription medicines
> you take for the diabetes and associated conditions.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Feb  7 22:13:30 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:13:30 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
In-Reply-To: <002401d4bea1$3273f7e0$975be7a0$@gmail.com>
References: <002401d4bea1$3273f7e0$975be7a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005e01d4bf32$5bd1c090$137541b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi Verlyn.
First, as with most any pump, you can try it for a month and if it doesn't
work out, they will help you cancel all insurance and costs. In addition,
you can run the Omnipod with saline while you try it out if you like. I'd be
curious about this other blind Omnipod user as I haven't yet met anyone. I
knew of one guy many years ago but he was not totally blind. 
I actually set up sessions with a trainer before I'd made up my mind. It's
not for the endocrinologist to say what you can and can't handle. After all,
not all sighted people like or can handle every pump they see either. So we
should have the right to try something and reject it, just as they do. Some
days I really get tired of having to be so darn perfect all of the time.
<grrrrrrrrr!> I actually decided not to go with this pump in 2009, almost
chose it in 2017 but went with the Animas instead. Bad move there, as it
turned out. So in 2018, I saw it as my last hope and it is working out well
for me. But truthfully, for all these 27 years I've used a pump, there has
been trickery involved in working around inaccessible features and right
now, that's just how it is if we want those benefits.
And no, we're not going to get Alexa or anyone like that right now because
that would have to get FDA involvement and special approval, bla bla bla!
Not happening.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:54 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

Thank you to everyone that responded.

I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they were
not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to someone who had
never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for replacement for any 730G
users that may have trouble with their current pump. 
I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I will
be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this model.

Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use the
Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to give me a
prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of basal rates I
use the pens will not work out either. Such a encouraging visit as her last
comment was, "I don't know anything that might work." You can just imagine
how that made feel. She is a great Endocrinologist who has a passion for
diabetic education. However, I am the only totally blind patient she has had
in all her years of practice.

I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next year
one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

Blessings,

Verlyn


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 01:31:38 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:31:38 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
In-Reply-To: <005c01d4bf31$43ebb310$cbc31930$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902070932490.23266@panix1.panix.com>	<DBA732D0-D8E0-4DD8-B33D-EBC18E9EA3E3@gmail.com>
	<005c01d4bf31$43ebb310$cbc31930$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <063101d4bf4e$0a18aa90$1e49ffb0$@gmail.com>

Completely agree.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:06 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare

I don't believe this for a minute. If I thought Medicare had half the staff
available to actually look at all of this information we send, I would say
we had too many government employees. They just want to make sure they spend
as little money as possible and heavens! Why believe a doctor that a person
has a certain permanent condition. Makes no sense to me that I have to
repeat a stupid C peptide test when I'd done one ten years ago. Never heard
of that result changing for a type 1 diabetic. This business of only
allowing the exact amount of strips matching the number of tests you say you
do, this shows how little they know about living with finger sticks on a
daily basis. And for things like my Omnipod, would you believe, the pods
have to have different packaging for those of us on Medicare. So if you have
real insurance, you get pods in boxes of ten. If you have Medicare, you get
boxes of five. I mean really, we couldn't have anyone accidentally get one
more pod than the absolute minimum necessary. 
And for my rheumatoid arthritis I take Enbrel, which is an injectable drug.
It comes in a pen, same dosage for everyone. You just pull off the cap, hold
against your skin and push the button. No choice on what to do. Yet after my
month-long battle to get the drug covered, I have been told I can have 3.92
doses per 30 days. Huh? I should have 4 every 28 days, one per week. This
just shows how ridiculous this bureaucracy has become. I don't believe for
one minute that anyone really cares about how I'm managing. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 7:03 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare

Yes, I totally understand that. The C-peptide test is to show that your
pancreas is not producing enough insulin though. This was required for me to
be able to initially obtain the insulin pump.


    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Medicare is an insurance carrier as are others.  The reason for 
> requiring finger sticks from 3 to 6 times a day is not to continue to 
> prove anyone is a diabetic.  The reason for this requirement is to 
> monitor your control of your diabetes and the effectiveness of 
> whatever prescription medicines you take for the diabetes and associated
conditions.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 01:34:05 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:34:05 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
In-Reply-To: <005e01d4bf32$5bd1c090$137541b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <002401d4bea1$3273f7e0$975be7a0$@gmail.com>
	<005e01d4bf32$5bd1c090$137541b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <063e01d4bf4e$61646230$242d2690$@gmail.com>

Not to mention that with Alexa, literally anyone could give her directions,
accidently or otherwise activating a pump. I'm sure the Alexa comment was a
joke, but I wouldn't trust a medical device that can be ran via my Echo. My
lights, my vacuum, even my thermostat, but not my insulin pump.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

Hi Verlyn.
First, as with most any pump, you can try it for a month and if it doesn't
work out, they will help you cancel all insurance and costs. In addition,
you can run the Omnipod with saline while you try it out if you like. I'd be
curious about this other blind Omnipod user as I haven't yet met anyone. I
knew of one guy many years ago but he was not totally blind. 
I actually set up sessions with a trainer before I'd made up my mind. It's
not for the endocrinologist to say what you can and can't handle. After all,
not all sighted people like or can handle every pump they see either. So we
should have the right to try something and reject it, just as they do. Some
days I really get tired of having to be so darn perfect all of the time.
<grrrrrrrrr!> I actually decided not to go with this pump in 2009, almost
chose it in 2017 but went with the Animas instead. Bad move there, as it
turned out. So in 2018, I saw it as my last hope and it is working out well
for me. But truthfully, for all these 27 years I've used a pump, there has
been trickery involved in working around inaccessible features and right
now, that's just how it is if we want those benefits.
And no, we're not going to get Alexa or anyone like that right now because
that would have to get FDA involvement and special approval, bla bla bla!
Not happening.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:54 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

Thank you to everyone that responded.

I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they were
not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to someone who had
never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for replacement for any 730G
users that may have trouble with their current pump. 
I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I will
be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this model.

Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use the
Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to give me a
prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of basal rates I
use the pens will not work out either. Such a encouraging visit as her last
comment was, "I don't know anything that might work." You can just imagine
how that made feel. She is a great Endocrinologist who has a passion for
diabetic education. However, I am the only totally blind patient she has had
in all her years of practice.

I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next year
one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

Blessings,

Verlyn


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Fri Feb  8 02:17:20 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 21:17:20 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare
Message-ID: <300f337d.4aa5.44a4.87fe.e58a26fb058d@samobile.net>

Oh I agree with you all the way.
To fight for everything just doesn't make since to me.
I better not say any more.

Original message:
> I don't believe this for a minute. If I thought Medicare had half the staff
> available to actually look at all of this information we send, I would say
> we had too many government employees. They just want to make sure they spend
> as little money as possible and heavens! Why believe a doctor that a person
> has a certain permanent condition. Makes no sense to me that I have to
> repeat a stupid C peptide test when I'd done one ten years ago. Never heard
> of that result changing for a type 1 diabetic. This business of only
> allowing the exact amount of strips matching the number of tests you say you
> do, this shows how little they know about living with finger sticks on a
> daily basis. And for things like my Omnipod, would you believe, the pods
> have to have different packaging for those of us on Medicare. So if you have
> real insurance, you get pods in boxes of ten. If you have Medicare, you get
> boxes of five. I mean really, we couldn't have anyone accidentally get one
> more pod than the absolute minimum necessary.
> And for my rheumatoid arthritis I take Enbrel, which is an injectable drug.
> It comes in a pen, same dosage for everyone. You just pull off the cap, hold
> against your skin and push the button. No choice on what to do. Yet after my
> month-long battle to get the drug covered, I have been told I can have 3.92
> doses per 30 days. Huh? I should have 4 every 28 days, one per week. This
> just shows how ridiculous this bureaucracy has become. I don't believe for
> one minute that anyone really cares about how I'm managing.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] medicare

> Yes, I totally understand that. The C-peptide test is to show that your
> pancreas is not producing enough insulin though. This was required for me to
> be able to initially obtain the insulin pump.


>     Jamie

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Medicare is an insurance carrier as are others.  The reason for requiring
>> finger sticks from 3 to 6 times a day is not to continue to prove anyone
>> is a diabetic.  The reason for this requirement is to monitor your control
>> of your diabetes and the effectiveness of whatever prescription medicines
>> you take for the diabetes and associated conditions.



>> --


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Fri Feb  8 02:32:27 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 21:32:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
Message-ID: <0dbde9f8.07f2.4002.b8d8.4ee0f613a36d@samobile.net>

No joke,
I would trust it.
You have her in your phone as well.
If it would help me be even more independent I would give it a fare try.
We are stopped in so many ways, just has to be one more way to get 
around everything.
It was shared last night that the dot moves around the top of the pod
I had thought of adding small dots to help you out.
Where if what moves around the area, that wouldn't work.
Keep up the swell work and making noise at least they are hearing from you.

Original message:
> Not to mention that with Alexa, literally anyone could give her directions,
> accidently or otherwise activating a pump. I'm sure the Alexa comment was a
> joke, but I wouldn't trust a medical device that can be ran via my Echo. My
> lights, my vacuum, even my thermostat, but not my insulin pump.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

> Hi Verlyn.
> First, as with most any pump, you can try it for a month and if it doesn't
> work out, they will help you cancel all insurance and costs. In addition,
> you can run the Omnipod with saline while you try it out if you like. I'd be
> curious about this other blind Omnipod user as I haven't yet met anyone. I
> knew of one guy many years ago but he was not totally blind.
> I actually set up sessions with a trainer before I'd made up my mind. It's
> not for the endocrinologist to say what you can and can't handle. After all,
> not all sighted people like or can handle every pump they see either. So we
> should have the right to try something and reject it, just as they do. Some
> days I really get tired of having to be so darn perfect all of the time.
> <grrrrrrrrr!> I actually decided not to go with this pump in 2009, almost
> chose it in 2017 but went with the Animas instead. Bad move there, as it
> turned out. So in 2018, I saw it as my last hope and it is working out well
> for me. But truthfully, for all these 27 years I've used a pump, there has
> been trickery involved in working around inaccessible features and right
> now, that's just how it is if we want those benefits.
> And no, we're not going to get Alexa or anyone like that right now because
> that would have to get FDA involvement and special approval, bla bla bla!
> Not happening.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:54 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Veryln Baldwin
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

> Thank you to everyone that responded.

> I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they were
> not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to someone who had
> never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for replacement for any 730G
> users that may have trouble with their current pump.
> I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I will
> be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this model.

> Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
> emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
> The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use the
> Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to give me a
> prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of basal rates I
> use the pens will not work out either. Such a encouraging visit as her last
> comment was, "I don't know anything that might work." You can just imagine
> how that made feel. She is a great Endocrinologist who has a passion for
> diabetic education. However, I am the only totally blind patient she has had
> in all her years of practice.

> I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next year
> one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

> Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

> Blessings,

> Verlyn


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From magills at bigpond.com  Fri Feb  8 04:29:33 2019
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:29:33 +1100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
Message-ID: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>

 

Hi all,

 

All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but may I
make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:

 

Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where the
appropriate control is, so you can press it.

 

https://aira.io/

 

Regards,

Paul from Australia

 



From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 06:50:59 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:50:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
References: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <709CBD49-C20E-43EB-9F37-A1E572E8D4A1@gmail.com>

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but may I
> make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where the
> appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 08:36:15 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 02:36:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
In-Reply-To: <0dbde9f8.07f2.4002.b8d8.4ee0f613a36d@samobile.net>
References: <0dbde9f8.07f2.4002.b8d8.4ee0f613a36d@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <066a01d4bf89$5b7e84f0$127b8ed0$@gmail.com>

Dar,

Alexa is what Amazon Echo's use; the device you have in your house that can
play music and you can ask it questions and stuff. I think you mean Syrie,
which is the voice on Apple devices like iPhones.

I still wouldn't trust Syrie on my phone to run medical devices. What
devices like pumps need are voice-over, which Apple has for iPhones but is
different than Syrie.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:32 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

No joke,
I would trust it.
You have her in your phone as well.
If it would help me be even more independent I would give it a fare try.
We are stopped in so many ways, just has to be one more way to get around
everything.
It was shared last night that the dot moves around the top of the pod I had
thought of adding small dots to help you out.
Where if what moves around the area, that wouldn't work.
Keep up the swell work and making noise at least they are hearing from you.

Original message:
> Not to mention that with Alexa, literally anyone could give her 
> directions, accidently or otherwise activating a pump. I'm sure the 
> Alexa comment was a joke, but I wouldn't trust a medical device that 
> can be ran via my Echo. My lights, my vacuum, even my thermostat, but not
my insulin pump.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

> Hi Verlyn.
> First, as with most any pump, you can try it for a month and if it 
> doesn't work out, they will help you cancel all insurance and costs. 
> In addition, you can run the Omnipod with saline while you try it out 
> if you like. I'd be curious about this other blind Omnipod user as I 
> haven't yet met anyone. I knew of one guy many years ago but he was not
totally blind.
> I actually set up sessions with a trainer before I'd made up my mind. 
> It's not for the endocrinologist to say what you can and can't handle. 
> After all, not all sighted people like or can handle every pump they 
> see either. So we should have the right to try something and reject 
> it, just as they do. Some days I really get tired of having to be so darn
perfect all of the time.
> <grrrrrrrrr!> I actually decided not to go with this pump in 2009, 
> almost chose it in 2017 but went with the Animas instead. Bad move 
> there, as it turned out. So in 2018, I saw it as my last hope and it 
> is working out well for me. But truthfully, for all these 27 years 
> I've used a pump, there has been trickery involved in working around 
> inaccessible features and right now, that's just how it is if we want
those benefits.
> And no, we're not going to get Alexa or anyone like that right now 
> because that would have to get FDA involvement and special approval, bla
bla bla!
> Not happening.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:54 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Veryln Baldwin
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

> Thank you to everyone that responded.

> I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they 
> were not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to 
> someone who had never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for 
> replacement for any 730G users that may have trouble with their current
pump.
> I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I 
> will be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this
model.

> Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been 
> emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
> The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use 
> the Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to 
> give me a prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of 
> basal rates I use the pens will not work out either. Such a 
> encouraging visit as her last comment was, "I don't know anything that 
> might work." You can just imagine how that made feel. She is a great 
> Endocrinologist who has a passion for diabetic education. However, I 
> am the only totally blind patient she has had in all her years of
practice.

> I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next 
> year one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

> Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

> Blessings,

> Verlyn


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 08:43:28 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 02:43:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
References: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <067001d4bf8a$5d3407b0$179c1710$@gmail.com>

No, using AIRA or Be My Eyes or Facetime don't work with current pumps
because of the glare and how the icons are layed out. I've tried it as have
others here.

Plus, I bolus several times a day, and it would take up a lot of minutes for
the number of times I use my pump in a day in addition to any other uses for
AIRA. Pump users would burn through AIRA minutes quickly. And not everyone
can afford that.

I prefer to use AIRA for things I truly cannot not do on my own; like access
all the hard-copy print paperwork that comes every day in my son's backpack;
or learning what my surrounding landmarks are when in new areas that I would
not be able to discern from a distance. Things of that nature. To each his
own though.

But again, currently, it doesn't work well to use AIRA to have help
accessing insulin pumps.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul
Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

 

Hi all,

 

All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but may I
make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:

 

Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where the
appropriate control is, so you can press it.

 

https://aira.io/

 

Regards,

Paul from Australia

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 08:52:54 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 02:52:54 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <709CBD49-C20E-43EB-9F37-A1E572E8D4A1@gmail.com>
References: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
	<709CBD49-C20E-43EB-9F37-A1E572E8D4A1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <067101d4bf8b$aebc6a90$0c353fb0$@gmail.com>

Yes, all great points, Amber.

I will be honest. AIRA seems great on the surface, but my concern with it is that too many of us will rely on it for things we can frankly do nonvisually on our own; I already know too many people like this. And second and worst, it's really just another work-around for blind people. Why should anyone consider accessibility when we can just use a service like AIRA? I want to be able to access my life, whatever it may be, on my own as much as possible. When companies refuse to accommodate in providing me with accessible material or a fully accessible medical device, my needs are pushed to the side, the implication being I don't matter. And now these companies can say, "Oh, just use something like AIRA to access what you need." But all this is is a sighted person I essentially pay to do something for me, meaning I'm not doing it on my own. This is more a band-aid fix than a real solution.

I'm not against AIRA in-and-of-itself and it has some useful functions, and I'm certainly not saying we should get rid of it or not use it, but the more we just say we can rely on something like AIRA, the less likely it is for the world to adopt more independent means of accessibility for us. Equal access is not special treatment; if a sighted person is able to do something independently, I should be able to as well. When I insist a service like AIRA can just meet my needs, companies like Medtronic don't have to even think about creating a pump that allows me to use as easily as I use my iPhone completely on my own.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 12:51 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 13:13:55 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 08:13:55 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <067101d4bf8b$aebc6a90$0c353fb0$@gmail.com>
References: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
	<709CBD49-C20E-43EB-9F37-A1E572E8D4A1@gmail.com>
	<067101d4bf8b$aebc6a90$0c353fb0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F7388173-BE4E-4FFF-AE14-2E77E3C575E1@gmail.com>

Good morning everyone:

I most definitely concur with both Bridget and Amber.  To state my feeling short, sweet, and straight to the point, I haven?t won the lottery yet.  So, I?m not about to pick up AIRA very soon, for any reason.  

Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2019, at 3:52 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, all great points, Amber.
> 
> I will be honest. AIRA seems great on the surface, but my concern with it is that too many of us will rely on it for things we can frankly do nonvisually on our own; I already know too many people like this. And second and worst, it's really just another work-around for blind people. Why should anyone consider accessibility when we can just use a service like AIRA? I want to be able to access my life, whatever it may be, on my own as much as possible. When companies refuse to accommodate in providing me with accessible material or a fully accessible medical device, my needs are pushed to the side, the implication being I don't matter. And now these companies can say, "Oh, just use something like AIRA to access what you need." But all this is is a sighted person I essentially pay to do something for me, meaning I'm not doing it on my own. This is more a band-aid fix than a real solution.
> 
> I'm not against AIRA in-and-of-itself and it has some useful functions, and I'm certainly not saying we should get rid of it or not use it, but the more we just say we can rely on something like AIRA, the less likely it is for the world to adopt more independent means of accessibility for us. Equal access is not special treatment; if a sighted person is able to do something independently, I should be able to as well. When I insist a service like AIRA can just meet my needs, companies like Medtronic don't have to even think about creating a pump that allows me to use as easily as I use my iPhone completely on my own.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 12:51 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
> 
> There are several problems with this.
> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
> Amber
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://aira.io/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Paul from Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Feb  8 17:59:44 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:59:44 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <000601d4bf66$e4710ad0$ad532070$@bigpond.com>
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The problem is, for one thing, it's such tiny motion that touching anything
causes stuff to happen so it would be really tedious to try to use a pump
this way. Given how often I interact with my pump, man would that use up
minutes, even if it were successful. In addition, when you're doing some
things, you're not completely dressed. Thanks for the thought though.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 8:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

 

Hi all,

 

All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but may I
make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:

 

Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where the
appropriate control is, so you can press it.

 

https://aira.io/

 

Regards,

Paul from Australia

 

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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 18:08:36 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:08:36 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
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	<006f01d4bfd8$12cef060$386cd120$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Amber?s, Bridgit?s and Veronica?s messages all should be shared with the NFB. I believe they state the need for accessibility and usability better than anything I?ve read in a long time! It?s fine to have all these apps run and staffed by well-meaning sighted people or, for that matter, blind people, but they do not diminish the need for accessibility that provides independence. And, by the way, I know what Echo is, but I choose not to own one, for the same reason I don?t pay for AIRA (well, this as the money outlay), I don?t want strangers knowing that much about me. 

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 12:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

The problem is, for one thing, it's such tiny motion that touching anything
causes stuff to happen so it would be really tedious to try to use a pump
this way. Given how often I interact with my pump, man would that use up
minutes, even if it were successful. In addition, when you're doing some
things, you're not completely dressed. Thanks for the thought though.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 8:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

 

Hi all,

 

All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but may I
make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:

 

Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where the
appropriate control is, so you can press it.

 

https://aira.io/

 

Regards,

Paul from Australia

 

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From letsdanceintx at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 22:55:14 2019
From: letsdanceintx at gmail.com (Veryln Baldwin)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:55:14 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 530G
Message-ID: <003401d4c001$5b0c73b0$11255b10$@gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

With your great encouragement and information I have been persistent.
Yesterday after having been on hold and transferred many times (from start
to finish was two hours), I reached a tremendous result!
I kept asking for the Engineering Department. Never did get there but did
eventually make my way to a great guy named Anthony in the Tech Support
Department. This afternoon I opened the package containing my 530G!!!

Next ambitious pursuit is to get the local rep to set an appointment with me
for set-up and training.

You all probably received the notice from Scott White regarding the trip to
Washington D C. Is there some way to get our issue of needing the life
supporting insulin pumps to be manufactured to be accessible by the blind
and the blind/deaf? I've wondered for several years why we have so many
other devices that talk including health items and our glucometers and yet
not more user friendly insulin pumps. About seven years ago I had several
conversations with various pump companies along with a representative from
the study that was conducted in 2004-2008. I stopped my endeavor after yet
another insulin pump tech told me that if enough requests were made they
might consider it.

I am now wondering if we brought our plight to the press or 60 minutes team
if it would cause a stir. With a lot of work we might get a lot of
physicians going to bat for us. In addition perhaps the diabetic
publications would publish an article. Sounds like a lot of work but this is
our lives we're talking about.

Obviously I am new to this group and this topic may have been trodden into
the ground previously. 

Looking forward to your comments,

Verlyn Baldwin, now a contented insulin pump consumer for at least one more
year!




From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 23:06:08 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:06:08 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 530G
In-Reply-To: <003401d4c001$5b0c73b0$11255b10$@gmail.com>
References: <003401d4c001$5b0c73b0$11255b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <040101d4c002$e07f1740$a17d45c0$@gmail.com>

I'm so glad that you were able to get the 530G.  Congratulations and great
job for being so persistent!  Glad to have you on our site!


I'm using the 530G, and so far it is doing great.  Take lots of notes in
your training, since I referred to my notes for a good month when changing
the cartridge or resovoir as Medtronic calls it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veryln
Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 4:55 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin <letsdanceintx at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 530G

Hi Everyone,

With your great encouragement and information I have been persistent.
Yesterday after having been on hold and transferred many times (from start
to finish was two hours), I reached a tremendous result!
I kept asking for the Engineering Department. Never did get there but did
eventually make my way to a great guy named Anthony in the Tech Support
Department. This afternoon I opened the package containing my 530G!!!

Next ambitious pursuit is to get the local rep to set an appointment with me
for set-up and training.

You all probably received the notice from Scott White regarding the trip to
Washington D C. Is there some way to get our issue of needing the life
supporting insulin pumps to be manufactured to be accessible by the blind
and the blind/deaf? I've wondered for several years why we have so many
other devices that talk including health items and our glucometers and yet
not more user friendly insulin pumps. About seven years ago I had several
conversations with various pump companies along with a representative from
the study that was conducted in 2004-2008. I stopped my endeavor after yet
another insulin pump tech told me that if enough requests were made they
might consider it.

I am now wondering if we brought our plight to the press or 60 minutes team
if it would cause a stir. With a lot of work we might get a lot of
physicians going to bat for us. In addition perhaps the diabetic
publications would publish an article. Sounds like a lot of work but this is
our lives we're talking about.

Obviously I am new to this group and this topic may have been trodden into
the ground previously. 

Looking forward to your comments,

Verlyn Baldwin, now a contented insulin pump consumer for at least one more
year!


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb  9 01:54:14 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 20:54:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
Message-ID: <98fdfe8f.8c86.4247.9d5a.69d4ebea9c91@samobile.net>

They would be calling ara quite allot.
There is more than one button to keep track of.
A swell idea.

Original message:


> Hi all,



> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but may I
> make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:



> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where the
> appropriate control is, so you can press it.



> https://aira.io/



> Regards,

> Paul from Australia



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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb  9 01:57:30 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 20:57:30 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G
Message-ID: <56e19455.90f3.4749.8961.1f4606bdab42@samobile.net>

Oh I wouldn't trust siri either.
She said notty words in one of my dog classes. loll.

Original message:
> Dar,

> Alexa is what Amazon Echo's use; the device you have in your house that can
> play music and you can ask it questions and stuff. I think you mean Syrie,
> which is the voice on Apple devices like iPhones.

> I still wouldn't trust Syrie on my phone to run medical devices. What
> devices like pumps need are voice-over, which Apple has for iPhones but is
> different than Syrie.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:32 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

> No joke,
> I would trust it.
> You have her in your phone as well.
> If it would help me be even more independent I would give it a fare try.
> We are stopped in so many ways, just has to be one more way to get around
> everything.
> It was shared last night that the dot moves around the top of the pod I had
> thought of adding small dots to help you out.
> Where if what moves around the area, that wouldn't work.
> Keep up the swell work and making noise at least they are hearing from you.

> Original message:
>> Not to mention that with Alexa, literally anyone could give her
>> directions, accidently or otherwise activating a pump. I'm sure the
>> Alexa comment was a joke, but I wouldn't trust a medical device that
>> can be ran via my Echo. My lights, my vacuum, even my thermostat, but not
> my insulin pump.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:14 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

>> Hi Verlyn.
>> First, as with most any pump, you can try it for a month and if it
>> doesn't work out, they will help you cancel all insurance and costs.
>> In addition, you can run the Omnipod with saline while you try it out
>> if you like. I'd be curious about this other blind Omnipod user as I
>> haven't yet met anyone. I knew of one guy many years ago but he was not
> totally blind.
>> I actually set up sessions with a trainer before I'd made up my mind.
>> It's not for the endocrinologist to say what you can and can't handle.
>> After all, not all sighted people like or can handle every pump they
>> see either. So we should have the right to try something and reject
>> it, just as they do. Some days I really get tired of having to be so darn
> perfect all of the time.
>> <grrrrrrrrr!> I actually decided not to go with this pump in 2009,
>> almost chose it in 2017 but went with the Animas instead. Bad move
>> there, as it turned out. So in 2018, I saw it as my last hope and it
>> is working out well for me. But truthfully, for all these 27 years
>> I've used a pump, there has been trickery involved in working around
>> inaccessible features and right now, that's just how it is if we want
> those benefits.
>> And no, we're not going to get Alexa or anyone like that right now
>> because that would have to get FDA involvement and special approval, bla
> bla bla!
>> Not happening.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:54 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Veryln Baldwin
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod and Medtronic 530G

>> Thank you to everyone that responded.

>> I spoke with Medtronic this morning about the 730G and was told they
>> were not sure they had any more in stock that could be given to
>> someone who had never had one as Medtronic is keeping these for
>> replacement for any 730G users that may have trouble with their current
> pump.
>> I did not know about the 530G until reading the groups responses. So I
>> will be back on the phone with Medtronic tomorrow in regards to this
> model.

>> Also, I will speak with Veronica regarding the Omni Pod as I have been
>> emailing with another blind Omni Pod user.
>> The difficulty at hand is convincing my doctor that I can indeed use
>> the Omni Pod indecently. When I saw her Monday she was not willing to
>> give me a prescription for it. In addition due to the small amount of
>> basal rates I use the pens will not work out either. Such a
>> encouraging visit as her last comment was, "I don't know anything that
>> might work." You can just imagine how that made feel. She is a great
>> Endocrinologist who has a passion for diabetic education. However, I
>> am the only totally blind patient she has had in all her years of
> practice.

>> I am determined to stay on a pump and will have faith that in the next
>> year one of companys will develop an accessible pump.

>> Thanks again and I'll keep you posted.

>> Blessings,

>> Verlyn


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From magills at bigpond.com  Sat Feb  9 07:17:11 2019
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 18:17:11 +1100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
Message-ID: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>


Hi all,

I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

With apologies,
Paul from Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 12:59:13 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 06:59:13 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
References: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <045101d4c077$425ed760$c71c8620$@gmail.com>

Paul,

     I'm sorry that responses to your suggestions elicited negative responses from some people.  Yes, we are frustrated with having to figure out how to navigate pumps, meters, etc. that are not designed for the use of a diabetic who is blind.  However, this site is designed to support each other, and telling us what works for you is what you are supposed to do.  I'm sorry you feel  that your suggestion was not appreciated and upsetting to others on the list.  If it works for you, then it is worth sharing with others.  

I find this mailing list extremely helpful, and I have always been the type to listen to a suggestion or idea and take from it what I need and move on from there.  That bit of advice from my mom has helped me maintain a good relationship with my mother-in-law over the years!

I hope you will continue to share what works for you when someone poses a question to the group.  I'm glad to hear from a fellow diabetic from Australia.  I bet it is beautiful there right now compared to the negative degree weather we are having here in Iowa!  

				Jamie
     

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:17 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps


Hi all,

I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

With apologies,
Paul from Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 16:12:16 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 10:12:16 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
References: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <084301d4c092$3a1e4ed0$ae5aec70$@gmail.com>

Paul,

No problems. Lots of topics get brought up here over and over; you never know whom knows what and it's totally fine to rehash subjects. No worries, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:17 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps


Hi all,

I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

With apologies,
Paul from Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 16:27:22 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 11:27:22 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <084301d4c092$3a1e4ed0$ae5aec70$@gmail.com>
References: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
	<084301d4c092$3a1e4ed0$ae5aec70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1F353E83-5C5E-4ACD-9A9D-6193A63EB65B@gmail.com>

No apologies needed I say. You brought up something, and people responded. I didn?t mean to sound harsh in my message if I did? It was late? Or early? When I wrote it.
Amber

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> No problems. Lots of topics get brought up here over and over; you never know whom knows what and it's totally fine to rehash subjects. No worries, grin.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:17 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com <mailto:magills at bigpond.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.
> 
> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.
> 
> With apologies,
> Paul from Australia.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
> 
> There are several problems with this.
> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
> Amber
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://aira.io/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Paul from Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 17:41:17 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:41:17 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
References: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <004b01d4c09e$a8f018a0$fad049e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

No need to apologize. Nobody should be afraid to say anything on this list and even if a specific suggestion doesn't immediately pan out, it just might spark an idea down the road. I appreciate the fact that we're all thinking about each other's needs, no matter how much they may differ. So please continue to ask any ol' question, give voice to any thought or idea. And hey, feel free to shoot down one of mine down the road too. <grin> 
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 11:17 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps


Hi all,

I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

With apologies,
Paul from Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 17:50:24 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 09:50:24 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
Message-ID: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Well, yesterday afternoon, there went another three hours I'll never get
back. Yep! On the phone with Dexcom again. I finally got them to allow me to
return the second transmitter that I shouldn't have had to buy in the first
place. According to their policy, refunds should be processed in 3 to 5
business days. It's now been 11 and there's no trace of even preparing my
refund. Needless to say, I was already not a happy customer when I called
them. 
One little thing I was told, ahem, hope it's true, is that they are opening
a new customer service center and have been training about 50 extra
employees. They are supposed to open in a couple of weeks, so hopefully the
wait times when we call will decrease. I pointed out that if they had decent
systems in place, told the truth and did things correctly, we wouldn't need
to call so often and stay on a call so long, they wouldn't need so many
reps. At the end of my 3 hours, I pretty much got that since they'd sent an
email over to accounts receivable, there was not much the customer service
people could do. But of course, no, I couldn't talk with accounts receivable
myself. Then someone aske me if I'd spoken with my very own account manager.
Huh? Who? What doesn't he do? I now have another name and number to call on
Monday. Have any of you spoken with an account manager? Why should they need
such a position? I can't believe how much harder it is to be a simple cash
customer. I love the product, but sheesh!
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407







From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 18:05:01 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 12:05:01 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <1F353E83-5C5E-4ACD-9A9D-6193A63EB65B@gmail.com>
References: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>	<084301d4c092$3a1e4ed0$ae5aec70$@gmail.com>
	<1F353E83-5C5E-4ACD-9A9D-6193A63EB65B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <084d01d4c0a1$fa1b0750$ee5115f0$@gmail.com>

And well, there's a difference between having a different opinion than being irritated or rude. Some of us prefer to do things one way, and others another. Some thing work for some of us, and not for others. Some of us have strong opinions, still doesn't mean we are rude or harsh or that we don't want people sharing their ideas/opinions here, smile.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 10:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps

No apologies needed I say. You brought up something, and people responded. I didn?t mean to sound harsh in my message if I did? It was late? Or early? When I wrote it.
Amber

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> No problems. Lots of topics get brought up here over and over; you never know whom knows what and it's totally fine to rehash subjects. No worries, grin.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Paul Magill 
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:17 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
> <mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com <mailto:magills at bigpond.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.
> 
> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.
> 
> With apologies,
> Paul from Australia.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps
> 
> There are several problems with this.
> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
> Amber
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://aira.io/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Paul from Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 18:06:36 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 12:06:36 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>

Sorry, that stinks. I had a similar issue with Medtronic. It's resolved, but
this is just so frustrating. Hope it gets resolved.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Well, yesterday afternoon, there went another three hours I'll never get
back. Yep! On the phone with Dexcom again. I finally got them to allow me to
return the second transmitter that I shouldn't have had to buy in the first
place. According to their policy, refunds should be processed in 3 to 5
business days. It's now been 11 and there's no trace of even preparing my
refund. Needless to say, I was already not a happy customer when I called
them. 
One little thing I was told, ahem, hope it's true, is that they are opening
a new customer service center and have been training about 50 extra
employees. They are supposed to open in a couple of weeks, so hopefully the
wait times when we call will decrease. I pointed out that if they had decent
systems in place, told the truth and did things correctly, we wouldn't need
to call so often and stay on a call so long, they wouldn't need so many
reps. At the end of my 3 hours, I pretty much got that since they'd sent an
email over to accounts receivable, there was not much the customer service
people could do. But of course, no, I couldn't talk with accounts receivable
myself. Then someone aske me if I'd spoken with my very own account manager.
Huh? Who? What doesn't he do? I now have another name and number to call on
Monday. Have any of you spoken with an account manager? Why should they need
such a position? I can't believe how much harder it is to be a simple cash
customer. I love the product, but sheesh!
Veronica


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Feb  9 18:19:12 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 13:19:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
In-Reply-To: <004b01d4c09e$a8f018a0$fad049e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <005001d4c047$79f66970$6de33c50$@bigpond.com>
	<004b01d4c09e$a8f018a0$fad049e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Well said and I totally agree.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps

No need to apologize. Nobody should be afraid to say anything on this list and even if a specific suggestion doesn't immediately pan out, it just might spark an idea down the road. I appreciate the fact that we're all thinking about each other's needs, no matter how much they may differ. So please continue to ask any ol' question, give voice to any thought or idea. And hey, feel free to shoot down one of mine down the road too. <grin> 
Veronica


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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 11:17 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps


Hi all,

I should have realised that people would have already considered what Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

With apologies,
Paul from Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Amber Wallenstein
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

There are several problems with this.
1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA. 
2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational? 
3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in what I need to do to access my own care.
So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA effectively, I pass.
Amber

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:
> 
> 
> 
> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://aira.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul from Australia
> 
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Feb  9 18:35:35 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 13:35:35 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 530G
In-Reply-To: <003401d4c001$5b0c73b0$11255b10$@gmail.com>
References: <003401d4c001$5b0c73b0$11255b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0256EC60FBAA411CB6739355474E6516@eileen>

Hi Verlyn,

I?m glad to hear that you got the 530G since they have promised me that as an existing Medtronics customer I?ll also get the 530g pump & because the 630G is not a workable option for me. I have been worried that they were going to backtrack on their promise but this news makes me feel hopeful. They are processing my paperwork & I?ll need to call this week to find out the status and follow up on it. Getting them to say they would let me get a 530G was not easy and I was lucky enough to have a great rep who works with my doctors office go to bat for me and go high up on the chain of command last October. I have been worrying about it from October on since I have found the people I?ve dealt with on the phone to be a pack of jerks! 

So far as training & setup goes, once you have the pump in your possession they are usually very good about scheduling time with a trainer.

Good luck with your new pump!

Eileen

From: Veryln Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 5:55 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
Cc: Veryln Baldwin 
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 530G

Hi Everyone,

With your great encouragement and information I have been persistent.
Yesterday after having been on hold and transferred many times (from start
to finish was two hours), I reached a tremendous result!
I kept asking for the Engineering Department. Never did get there but did
eventually make my way to a great guy named Anthony in the Tech Support
Department. This afternoon I opened the package containing my 530G!!!

Next ambitious pursuit is to get the local rep to set an appointment with me
for set-up and training.

You all probably received the notice from Scott White regarding the trip to
Washington D C. Is there some way to get our issue of needing the life
supporting insulin pumps to be manufactured to be accessible by the blind
and the blind/deaf? I've wondered for several years why we have so many
other devices that talk including health items and our glucometers and yet
not more user friendly insulin pumps. About seven years ago I had several
conversations with various pump companies along with a representative from
the study that was conducted in 2004-2008. I stopped my endeavor after yet
another insulin pump tech told me that if enough requests were made they
might consider it.

I am now wondering if we brought our plight to the press or 60 minutes team
if it would cause a stir. With a lot of work we might get a lot of
physicians going to bat for us. In addition perhaps the diabetic
publications would publish an article. Sounds like a lot of work but this is
our lives we're talking about.

Obviously I am new to this group and this topic may have been trodden into
the ground previously. 

Looking forward to your comments,

Verlyn Baldwin, now a contented insulin pump consumer for at least one more
year!


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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 20:07:19 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 13:07:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm
not a happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point
of actually needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my
account online and it said I couldn't order them online. My
transmitter wasn't registered or some such. It said I could request
someone to contact me. So I did that, and guess what I still haven't
been contacted. The next day I called to place an order over the
phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So I'm told
that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated for
coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This
is news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the
system so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or
may not have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was
never completely clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to
contact directly, which I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I
did have, the adhesive got screwed up and it fell out. Seems like
there's one good spot that I can use for a couple of weeks with no
problems. But then my skin gets irritated and it needs a break. I'm a
small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm without having too
much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the back of my
right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once
that one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be
back to where I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal
meter. Which is driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it
very much. I'm really hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets
around to covering it won't be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get
hold of my Diabetes educater and whatever they have to do doesn't seem
to involve any paperwork for my doctor.  She did get the local
representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe that will light a fire
somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother system, or someone
actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone with this
kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula



From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 21:02:33 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 13:02:33 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>
	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Doula, personally, I think a punching bag ought to come with the kit. <grin>

First, one suggestion for wearing it, especially if you're small. I really
would suggest you wear them on your belly. There's more room there and
things don't get moved around like your arms. In addition, the surface is
flatter and the tape will go down better. 
As for the rest of it, yesterday was the first I've heard of my account
manager as well so I guess there will be a bunch of us making phone calls on
Monday. It's just weird. Before the G6 came out in June, this was a
wonderful, well-run company. It was fairly easy to get through on the phone
and all of this current disorganized nonsense just wasn't happening. My
money's on a new marketing person high up somewhere. I've already figured
out that my local rep is useless. And in your case, how in the world could
they not recognize your Medicare if you did get the original order? Good
grief! I wish I had more specific answers for you because if that were the
case, I'd have them for me too. I've threatened to report them to the state
insurance commissioner and attorney general for fraud because they weren't
delivering the product they promised. That line did get me higher up the
food chain. Let's touch base here and see if any of us have any luck on
Monday. All I can say is, I'm glad I'm not alone here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 12:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm
not a happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point
of actually needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my
account online and it said I couldn't order them online. My
transmitter wasn't registered or some such. It said I could request
someone to contact me. So I did that, and guess what I still haven't
been contacted. The next day I called to place an order over the
phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So I'm told
that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated for
coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This
is news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the
system so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or
may not have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was
never completely clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to
contact directly, which I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I
did have, the adhesive got screwed up and it fell out. Seems like
there's one good spot that I can use for a couple of weeks with no
problems. But then my skin gets irritated and it needs a break. I'm a
small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm without having too
much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the back of my
right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once
that one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be
back to where I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal
meter. Which is driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it
very much. I'm really hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets
around to covering it won't be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get
hold of my Diabetes educater and whatever they have to do doesn't seem
to involve any paperwork for my doctor.  She did get the local
representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe that will light a fire
somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother system, or someone
actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone with this
kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 21:13:15 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 13:13:15 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
Message-ID: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407







From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 21:21:17 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 16:21:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <42451285-D230-4577-860B-FF5E68EAD097@gmail.com>

Veronica:
I feel your pain for sure. I just went to the pharmacy and paid $150 for 21 days of insulin and needles. I almost cried. It?s like, what am I working for if all of my money is going to go to this? So I?m having a pity party right along with you. I?ll even give you a diet Pepsi. :-)
Yours in sympathy,
Amber

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
> I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
> regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
> visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
> decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
> nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
> authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
> because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
> doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
> arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
> appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
> was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
> on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
> can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
> my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
> with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
> today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
> there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
> me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
> that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
> blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
> country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
> just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
> something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 21:32:15 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:32:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>

To play devil's advocate, it could also be Medicare's fault. Usually when
stuff like this happens to me, it's Medicare's fault. Not to say Dexcom
isn't the problem either, but Medicare ccan be shitty too. Pardon the
French.

BTW, I agree to wear Dexcom on the tummy, especially if smaller. I also
don't have a lot of real estate on my arms, plus, I'm an active mommy of 2,
so I'm concerned wearing on my arms, it could pull out. Although, my
6-year-old and 2-year-old love to look at my infusion set and Dexcom on my
tummy. They know to be careful, but it's cute that they will lift up my
shirt (at home only) and ask me questions about both, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Doula, personally, I think a punching bag ought to come with the kit. <grin>

First, one suggestion for wearing it, especially if you're small. I really
would suggest you wear them on your belly. There's more room there and
things don't get moved around like your arms. In addition, the surface is
flatter and the tape will go down better. 
As for the rest of it, yesterday was the first I've heard of my account
manager as well so I guess there will be a bunch of us making phone calls on
Monday. It's just weird. Before the G6 came out in June, this was a
wonderful, well-run company. It was fairly easy to get through on the phone
and all of this current disorganized nonsense just wasn't happening. My
money's on a new marketing person high up somewhere. I've already figured
out that my local rep is useless. And in your case, how in the world could
they not recognize your Medicare if you did get the original order? Good
grief! I wish I had more specific answers for you because if that were the
case, I'd have them for me too. I've threatened to report them to the state
insurance commissioner and attorney general for fraud because they weren't
delivering the product they promised. That line did get me higher up the
food chain. Let's touch base here and see if any of us have any luck on
Monday. All I can say is, I'm glad I'm not alone here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 12:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm not a
happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point of actually
needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my account online and
it said I couldn't order them online. My transmitter wasn't registered or
some such. It said I could request someone to contact me. So I did that, and
guess what I still haven't been contacted. The next day I called to place an
order over the phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So
I'm told that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated
for coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This is
news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the system
so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or may not
have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was never completely
clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to contact directly, which
I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I did have, the adhesive got
screwed up and it fell out. Seems like there's one good spot that I can use
for a couple of weeks with no problems. But then my skin gets irritated and
it needs a break. I'm a small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm
without having too much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the
back of my right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once that
one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be back to where
I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal meter. Which is
driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it very much. I'm really
hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets around to covering it won't
be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get hold of my Diabetes educater and
whatever they have to do doesn't seem to involve any paperwork for my
doctor.  She did get the local representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe
that will light a fire somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother
system, or someone actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone
with this kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 21:41:03 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:41:03 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <089201d4c0c0$28842630$798c7290$@gmail.com>

Veronica,

I get it. Rant away, girl. As if insulin isn't expensive enough. I can only
buy a single vial at a time right now, because to buy a 3 months supply,
which they usually want me to do, cost almost $500 a month. I have 2 kids,
so this isn't all that feasible. Obviously, I end up paying for this
eventually, but I just can't do it all at once. So I buy a vial at a time,
which fills 3 Medtronic reservoirs, which last me roughly 3 weeks. So, about
every 3 weeks, I'm buying another vial of insulin. In this country,
especially if you have insurance, insulin shouldn't cost this much. But for
years now, the cost of insulin has gone up and up. In the last couple of
years, insulin has gone up 300% and probably higher by now. Disgusting. We
literally need it to live.

In the beginning of the year, we have to meet our deductible, which is why
it cost more, and at the end of the year, there's usually a medical gap, and
it cost more again.

Veronica, I recall someone here sharing a year ago or so that those of us
with pumps would have to notify our pharmacies about being on a pump,
because of changes in how insulin users on a pump versus those on injections
would be handled. Anyone remember this?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:13 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407





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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 21:43:59 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 13:43:59 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>	<001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d4c0c0$90b08b90$b211a2b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Oh Bridgit, that's cute. My dog gets curious about my sensor. It's funny,
she leaves the pod alone but something about that sensor really gets her
attention. 
With Medicare and the G6, looks like they're both part of the problem to me.
Medicare is clearly trying to figure out how to work out a cheap contract
and make sure nobody gets absolutely not one extra piece of a sensor. And
Dexcom seems to have had no idea how to supply products and Medicare could
deem that unacceptable.
The entire system sucks right now.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

To play devil's advocate, it could also be Medicare's fault. Usually when
stuff like this happens to me, it's Medicare's fault. Not to say Dexcom
isn't the problem either, but Medicare ccan be shitty too. Pardon the
French.

BTW, I agree to wear Dexcom on the tummy, especially if smaller. I also
don't have a lot of real estate on my arms, plus, I'm an active mommy of 2,
so I'm concerned wearing on my arms, it could pull out. Although, my
6-year-old and 2-year-old love to look at my infusion set and Dexcom on my
tummy. They know to be careful, but it's cute that they will lift up my
shirt (at home only) and ask me questions about both, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Doula, personally, I think a punching bag ought to come with the kit. <grin>

First, one suggestion for wearing it, especially if you're small. I really
would suggest you wear them on your belly. There's more room there and
things don't get moved around like your arms. In addition, the surface is
flatter and the tape will go down better. 
As for the rest of it, yesterday was the first I've heard of my account
manager as well so I guess there will be a bunch of us making phone calls on
Monday. It's just weird. Before the G6 came out in June, this was a
wonderful, well-run company. It was fairly easy to get through on the phone
and all of this current disorganized nonsense just wasn't happening. My
money's on a new marketing person high up somewhere. I've already figured
out that my local rep is useless. And in your case, how in the world could
they not recognize your Medicare if you did get the original order? Good
grief! I wish I had more specific answers for you because if that were the
case, I'd have them for me too. I've threatened to report them to the state
insurance commissioner and attorney general for fraud because they weren't
delivering the product they promised. That line did get me higher up the
food chain. Let's touch base here and see if any of us have any luck on
Monday. All I can say is, I'm glad I'm not alone here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 12:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm not a
happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point of actually
needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my account online and
it said I couldn't order them online. My transmitter wasn't registered or
some such. It said I could request someone to contact me. So I did that, and
guess what I still haven't been contacted. The next day I called to place an
order over the phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So
I'm told that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated
for coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This is
news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the system
so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or may not
have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was never completely
clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to contact directly, which
I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I did have, the adhesive got
screwed up and it fell out. Seems like there's one good spot that I can use
for a couple of weeks with no problems. But then my skin gets irritated and
it needs a break. I'm a small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm
without having too much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the
back of my right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once that
one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be back to where
I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal meter. Which is
driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it very much. I'm really
hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets around to covering it won't
be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get hold of my Diabetes educater and
whatever they have to do doesn't seem to involve any paperwork for my
doctor.  She did get the local representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe
that will light a fire somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother
system, or someone actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone
with this kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 21:46:27 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:46:27 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<42451285-D230-4577-860B-FF5E68EAD097@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <089401d4c0c0$e988af90$bc9a0eb0$@gmail.com>

Amber and Veronica and all,

Yes, incredibly stressful. And like veronica, I've been dealing with sinus infections with both my kids, and now I'm feeling under the weather. It doesn't put me in a great mood. Throw in single-digit temps and snow, and I'm not a happy camper.

My son's school counselor has been meeting grizzly mama bear lately Long story, but we've had a lot of push-back from her on his IEP, and she's tangoing with the wrong mommy right now. I've been diplomatic but really firm, and she's encountering my mood that's no longer patient and wanting to put up with crap right now, smirk.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:21 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Veronica:
I feel your pain for sure. I just went to the pharmacy and paid $150 for 21 days of insulin and needles. I almost cried. It?s like, what am I working for if all of my money is going to go to this? So I?m having a pity party right along with you. I?ll even give you a diet Pepsi. :-) Yours in sympathy, Amber

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a 
> bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a 
> bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or 
> something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover 
> that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin 
> allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. 
> Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The 
> pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. 
> Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any 
> more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis 
> injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's 
> appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a 
> victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with 
> my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably 
> isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no 
> good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but 
> somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which 
> resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. 
> Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the 
> pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me 
> feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I 
> said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but 
> I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and 
> get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 21:49:26 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:49:26 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <000001d4c0c0$90b08b90$b211a2b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>	<001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>
	<000001d4c0c0$90b08b90$b211a2b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <089501d4c0c1$541f3720$fc5da560$@gmail.com>

Veronica,

Don't disagree with you.

Yes, especially my 2-year-old of late will randomly lift my shirt up and
gently touch my sensor and infusion set. He asks, "What's that?" And he's
also interested in the stretch marks he left on my tummy, LOL! With my
oldest, I didn?t' have a single stretch mark, but with my second, I now have
several. He's fascinated by them, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:44 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Oh Bridgit, that's cute. My dog gets curious about my sensor. It's funny,
she leaves the pod alone but something about that sensor really gets her
attention. 
With Medicare and the G6, looks like they're both part of the problem to me.
Medicare is clearly trying to figure out how to work out a cheap contract
and make sure nobody gets absolutely not one extra piece of a sensor. And
Dexcom seems to have had no idea how to supply products and Medicare could
deem that unacceptable.
The entire system sucks right now.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

To play devil's advocate, it could also be Medicare's fault. Usually when
stuff like this happens to me, it's Medicare's fault. Not to say Dexcom
isn't the problem either, but Medicare ccan be shitty too. Pardon the
French.

BTW, I agree to wear Dexcom on the tummy, especially if smaller. I also
don't have a lot of real estate on my arms, plus, I'm an active mommy of 2,
so I'm concerned wearing on my arms, it could pull out. Although, my
6-year-old and 2-year-old love to look at my infusion set and Dexcom on my
tummy. They know to be careful, but it's cute that they will lift up my
shirt (at home only) and ask me questions about both, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Doula, personally, I think a punching bag ought to come with the kit. <grin>

First, one suggestion for wearing it, especially if you're small. I really
would suggest you wear them on your belly. There's more room there and
things don't get moved around like your arms. In addition, the surface is
flatter and the tape will go down better. 
As for the rest of it, yesterday was the first I've heard of my account
manager as well so I guess there will be a bunch of us making phone calls on
Monday. It's just weird. Before the G6 came out in June, this was a
wonderful, well-run company. It was fairly easy to get through on the phone
and all of this current disorganized nonsense just wasn't happening. My
money's on a new marketing person high up somewhere. I've already figured
out that my local rep is useless. And in your case, how in the world could
they not recognize your Medicare if you did get the original order? Good
grief! I wish I had more specific answers for you because if that were the
case, I'd have them for me too. I've threatened to report them to the state
insurance commissioner and attorney general for fraud because they weren't
delivering the product they promised. That line did get me higher up the
food chain. Let's touch base here and see if any of us have any luck on
Monday. All I can say is, I'm glad I'm not alone here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 12:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm not a
happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point of actually
needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my account online and
it said I couldn't order them online. My transmitter wasn't registered or
some such. It said I could request someone to contact me. So I did that, and
guess what I still haven't been contacted. The next day I called to place an
order over the phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So
I'm told that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated
for coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This is
news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the system
so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or may not
have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was never completely
clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to contact directly, which
I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I did have, the adhesive got
screwed up and it fell out. Seems like there's one good spot that I can use
for a couple of weeks with no problems. But then my skin gets irritated and
it needs a break. I'm a small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm
without having too much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the
back of my right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once that
one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be back to where
I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal meter. Which is
driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it very much. I'm really
hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets around to covering it won't
be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get hold of my Diabetes educater and
whatever they have to do doesn't seem to involve any paperwork for my
doctor.  She did get the local representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe
that will light a fire somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother
system, or someone actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone
with this kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 22:38:34 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 14:38:34 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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What I seem to remember was a change so that under Medicare, instead of insulin being covered under part B with the pump, it's now covered under Part D as a prescription. I have no prior experience since I just started Medicare in October but my insulin is certainly under my RX policy. It just bugs me that they decide how much I need, not me or my doctor. What's next? Telling me how much to eat? 
For me, one surprise round of steroids and my insulin needs triple. Then what? And you'd think they'd figure out that the more they try and deny people, the more doctors will try and game the system. Dear Government and/or insurance, Save money. Butt out! <grin>
Thanks for the company here. I really appreciate it.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Amber and Veronica and all,

Yes, incredibly stressful. And like veronica, I've been dealing with sinus infections with both my kids, and now I'm feeling under the weather. It doesn't put me in a great mood. Throw in single-digit temps and snow, and I'm not a happy camper.

My son's school counselor has been meeting grizzly mama bear lately Long story, but we've had a lot of push-back from her on his IEP, and she's tangoing with the wrong mommy right now. I've been diplomatic but really firm, and she's encountering my mood that's no longer patient and wanting to put up with crap right now, smirk.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:21 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Veronica:
I feel your pain for sure. I just went to the pharmacy and paid $150 for 21 days of insulin and needles. I almost cried. It?s like, what am I working for if all of my money is going to go to this? So I?m having a pity party right along with you. I?ll even give you a diet Pepsi. :-) Yours in sympathy, Amber

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a 
> bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a 
> bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or 
> something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover 
> that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin 
> allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. 
> Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The 
> pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. 
> Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any 
> more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis 
> injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's 
> appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a 
> victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with 
> my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably 
> isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no 
> good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but 
> somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which 
> resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. 
> Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the 
> pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me 
> feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I 
> said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but 
> I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and 
> get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb  9 22:40:56 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 14:40:56 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
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Yeah, well, just bring that up when his first girl friend is visiting.
<laughing!> And he's lucky to have such a cool mama bear! Way to go! They
have no idea how well all of the required self-advocacy has trained us.
<grin>
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Veronica,

Don't disagree with you.

Yes, especially my 2-year-old of late will randomly lift my shirt up and
gently touch my sensor and infusion set. He asks, "What's that?" And he's
also interested in the stretch marks he left on my tummy, LOL! With my
oldest, I didn?t' have a single stretch mark, but with my second, I now have
several. He's fascinated by them, grin.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:44 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Oh Bridgit, that's cute. My dog gets curious about my sensor. It's funny,
she leaves the pod alone but something about that sensor really gets her
attention. 
With Medicare and the G6, looks like they're both part of the problem to me.
Medicare is clearly trying to figure out how to work out a cheap contract
and make sure nobody gets absolutely not one extra piece of a sensor. And
Dexcom seems to have had no idea how to supply products and Medicare could
deem that unacceptable.
The entire system sucks right now.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

To play devil's advocate, it could also be Medicare's fault. Usually when
stuff like this happens to me, it's Medicare's fault. Not to say Dexcom
isn't the problem either, but Medicare ccan be shitty too. Pardon the
French.

BTW, I agree to wear Dexcom on the tummy, especially if smaller. I also
don't have a lot of real estate on my arms, plus, I'm an active mommy of 2,
so I'm concerned wearing on my arms, it could pull out. Although, my
6-year-old and 2-year-old love to look at my infusion set and Dexcom on my
tummy. They know to be careful, but it's cute that they will lift up my
shirt (at home only) and ask me questions about both, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Doula, personally, I think a punching bag ought to come with the kit. <grin>

First, one suggestion for wearing it, especially if you're small. I really
would suggest you wear them on your belly. There's more room there and
things don't get moved around like your arms. In addition, the surface is
flatter and the tape will go down better. 
As for the rest of it, yesterday was the first I've heard of my account
manager as well so I guess there will be a bunch of us making phone calls on
Monday. It's just weird. Before the G6 came out in June, this was a
wonderful, well-run company. It was fairly easy to get through on the phone
and all of this current disorganized nonsense just wasn't happening. My
money's on a new marketing person high up somewhere. I've already figured
out that my local rep is useless. And in your case, how in the world could
they not recognize your Medicare if you did get the original order? Good
grief! I wish I had more specific answers for you because if that were the
case, I'd have them for me too. I've threatened to report them to the state
insurance commissioner and attorney general for fraud because they weren't
delivering the product they promised. That line did get me higher up the
food chain. Let's touch base here and see if any of us have any luck on
Monday. All I can say is, I'm glad I'm not alone here.
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 12:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm not a
happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point of actually
needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my account online and
it said I couldn't order them online. My transmitter wasn't registered or
some such. It said I could request someone to contact me. So I did that, and
guess what I still haven't been contacted. The next day I called to place an
order over the phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So
I'm told that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated
for coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This is
news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the system
so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or may not
have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was never completely
clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to contact directly, which
I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I did have, the adhesive got
screwed up and it fell out. Seems like there's one good spot that I can use
for a couple of weeks with no problems. But then my skin gets irritated and
it needs a break. I'm a small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm
without having too much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the
back of my right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once that
one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be back to where
I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal meter. Which is
driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it very much. I'm really
hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets around to covering it won't
be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get hold of my Diabetes educater and
whatever they have to do doesn't seem to involve any paperwork for my
doctor.  She did get the local representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe
that will light a fire somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother
system, or someone actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone
with this kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 02:19:00 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 20:19:00 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <000501d4c0c8$854fd1e0$8fef75a0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>	<001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>	<000001d4c0c0$90b08b90$b211a2b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<089501d4c0c1$541f3720$fc5da560$@gmail.com>
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LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 4:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Yeah, well, just bring that up when his first girl friend is visiting.
<laughing!> And he's lucky to have such a cool mama bear! Way to go! They
have no idea how well all of the required self-advocacy has trained us.
<grin>
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Veronica,

Don't disagree with you.

Yes, especially my 2-year-old of late will randomly lift my shirt up and
gently touch my sensor and infusion set. He asks, "What's that?" And he's
also interested in the stretch marks he left on my tummy, LOL! With my
oldest, I didn?t' have a single stretch mark, but with my second, I now have
several. He's fascinated by them, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:44 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Oh Bridgit, that's cute. My dog gets curious about my sensor. It's funny,
she leaves the pod alone but something about that sensor really gets her
attention. 
With Medicare and the G6, looks like they're both part of the problem to me.
Medicare is clearly trying to figure out how to work out a cheap contract
and make sure nobody gets absolutely not one extra piece of a sensor. And
Dexcom seems to have had no idea how to supply products and Medicare could
deem that unacceptable.
The entire system sucks right now.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

To play devil's advocate, it could also be Medicare's fault. Usually when
stuff like this happens to me, it's Medicare's fault. Not to say Dexcom
isn't the problem either, but Medicare ccan be shitty too. Pardon the
French.

BTW, I agree to wear Dexcom on the tummy, especially if smaller. I also
don't have a lot of real estate on my arms, plus, I'm an active mommy of 2,
so I'm concerned wearing on my arms, it could pull out. Although, my
6-year-old and 2-year-old love to look at my infusion set and Dexcom on my
tummy. They know to be careful, but it's cute that they will lift up my
shirt (at home only) and ask me questions about both, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

Doula, personally, I think a punching bag ought to come with the kit. <grin>

First, one suggestion for wearing it, especially if you're small. I really
would suggest you wear them on your belly. There's more room there and
things don't get moved around like your arms. In addition, the surface is
flatter and the tape will go down better. 
As for the rest of it, yesterday was the first I've heard of my account
manager as well so I guess there will be a bunch of us making phone calls on
Monday. It's just weird. Before the G6 came out in June, this was a
wonderful, well-run company. It was fairly easy to get through on the phone
and all of this current disorganized nonsense just wasn't happening. My
money's on a new marketing person high up somewhere. I've already figured
out that my local rep is useless. And in your case, how in the world could
they not recognize your Medicare if you did get the original order? Good
grief! I wish I had more specific answers for you because if that were the
case, I'd have them for me too. I've threatened to report them to the state
insurance commissioner and attorney general for fraud because they weren't
delivering the product they promised. That line did get me higher up the
food chain. Let's touch base here and see if any of us have any luck on
Monday. All I can say is, I'm glad I'm not alone here.
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 12:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 Sounds like we have a party going on where Dexcom is concerned. I'm not a
happy customer right now either. So, I finally got to the point of actually
needing to place my first order of sensors. I went to my account online and
it said I couldn't order them online. My transmitter wasn't registered or
some such. It said I could request someone to contact me. So I did that, and
guess what I still haven't been contacted. The next day I called to place an
order over the phone. Meanwhile, I'm inserting the last sensor I have. So
I'm told that I can't place my order, my Medicare has to be reinvestigated
for coverage. That this is something that happens annually. Really? This is
news to me. Call back tomorrow and we'll get your order finished.
Call back the next day, well your Medicare wasn't recognized by the system
so now it has to be done manually, that takes 7 to 10  days.
OK, what do I do about not having sensors in the meantime? I may or may not
have been able to get a complimentary sensor, but that was never completely
clear. I got a name and phone number of someone to contact directly, which
I'll try on Monday. Meanwhile, the sensor I did have, the adhesive got
screwed up and it fell out. Seems like there's one good spot that I can use
for a couple of weeks with no problems. But then my skin gets irritated and
it needs a break. I'm a small woman, so it's difficult to move down the arm
without having too much arm movement impact the sensor staying put. And the
back of my right arm, I just don't think, and it gets moved enough that the
sensor gets knocked out. I call tech support right away, but even with
overnight shipping it probably won't get here until Monday. And once that
one is used, if I don't have some kind of resolution, I'll be back to where
I am right now. Without a CGM and relying on a normal meter. Which is
driving me nuts. I can do it, I just don't like it very much. I'm really
hoping that with the G6 whenever Medicare gets around to covering it won't
be such a pain in my posterior.  I did get hold of my Diabetes educater and
whatever they have to do doesn't seem to involve any paperwork for my
doctor.  She did get the local representative for Dexcom involved, so maybe
that will light a fire somewhere.  But ugh!  I wish there was a smoother
system, or someone actually knew what they were doing or something.  Anyone
with this kind of experience or advice that would be really helpful.
Doula

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Feb 10 02:35:04 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:35:04 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps
Message-ID: <27a5d9e6.bdfe.4aea.9632.b1794d40204c@samobile.net>

Now if you didn't offer that, you wouldn't have known.
Never worry.

You might have something over there that we might not have in the states.

Original message:

> Hi all,

> I should have realised that people would have already considered what 
> Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, 
> which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough 
> problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I 
> might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

> With apologies,
> Paul from Australia.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

> There are several problems with this.
> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA.
> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each 
> month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, 
> because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if 
> something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational?
> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the 
> pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely 
> disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that 
> information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable 
> telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct 
> me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in 
> what I need to do to access my own care.
> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, 
> the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA 
> effectively, I pass.
> Amber

>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:



>> Hi all,



>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but
>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:



>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where
>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.



>> https://aira.io/



>> Regards,

>> Paul from Australia



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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Feb 10 03:09:00 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 22:09:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
Message-ID: <36380876.7683.463f.a753.f8667d0444d5@samobile.net>

Keep fighting, even if it just helps us to fight.
Yes I have problems after awhile wanting to keep doing such a thing.
I am sorry you bumped your head, not good.
One time I bumped my head and my guide dog cried.
I shared good now I don't have to while tears were running down my face.
I pray you can get all of this worked out.

Original message:
> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
> I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
> regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
> visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
> decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
> nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
> authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
> because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
> doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
> arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
> appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
> was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
> on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
> can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
> my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
> with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
> today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
> there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
> me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
> that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
> blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
> country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
> just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
> something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407





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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 03:23:19 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 21:23:19 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <5c5f9927.1c69fb81.6dabc.039a@mx.google.com>

I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!?? 

Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!

Sandi


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407





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From vgc732 at optonline.net  Sun Feb 10 03:28:52 2019
From: vgc732 at optonline.net (Vincent Chaney Jr.)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 22:28:52 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <000301d4c0c8$31074820$9315d860$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<42451285-D230-4577-860B-FF5E68EAD097@gmail.com>
	<089401d4c0c0$e988af90$bc9a0eb0$@gmail.com>
	<000301d4c0c8$31074820$9315d860$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <E4CDDE7E-AE2D-4094-9E60-3E928D817E30@optonline.net>

Veronica and fellow pumpers,

The following document from the CMS.gov describes diabetes supplies and equipment by Medicare. The wording of "insulin for an insulin pump" may have to be included. A few years ago Medicare broke diabetes into multiple codes without informing doctors, pharmacies, or us patients. This PDF from August 2018 says we insulin pump users are supposed to be covered under Medicare Part B. A few years ago the Medicare changes put insulin automatically under part D. What I did was ask my doctor to write scripts saying insulin for the insulin pump and I spoke with my local Rite Aid pharmacy to have them change insulin to Part B noting it's for my insulin pump. I was even reimbursed for the copayment under part D when the correction was made.

Vincent

https://www.cms.gov/Outreach-and-Education/Medicare-Learning-Network-MLN/MLNMattersArticles/Downloads/SE18011.pdf


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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What I seem to remember was a change so that under Medicare, instead of insulin being covered under part B with the pump, it's now covered under Part D as a prescription. I have no prior experience since I just started Medicare in October but my insulin is certainly under my RX policy. It just bugs me that they decide how much I need, not me or my doctor. What's next? Telling me how much to eat? 
> For me, one surprise round of steroids and my insulin needs triple. Then what? And you'd think they'd figure out that the more they try and deny people, the more doctors will try and game the system. Dear Government and/or insurance, Save money. Butt out! <grin>
> Thanks for the company here. I really appreciate it.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
> 
> Amber and Veronica and all,
> 
> Yes, incredibly stressful. And like veronica, I've been dealing with sinus infections with both my kids, and now I'm feeling under the weather. It doesn't put me in a great mood. Throw in single-digit temps and snow, and I'm not a happy camper.
> 
> My son's school counselor has been meeting grizzly mama bear lately Long story, but we've had a lot of push-back from her on his IEP, and she's tangoing with the wrong mommy right now. I've been diplomatic but really firm, and she's encountering my mood that's no longer patient and wanting to put up with crap right now, smirk.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:21 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Som

From mafeliz0641 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 04:03:30 2019
From: mafeliz0641 at gmail.com (Mark Feliz)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 21:03:30 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <42451285-D230-4577-860B-FF5E68EAD097@gmail.com>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<42451285-D230-4577-860B-FF5E68EAD097@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3120F403-3C4D-48AE-95E7-B8BD8AE89D4E@gmail.com>

Veronica, thank you for ranting about what am a sure we all are want to say. My insolin cost went from 20 dollars to 75 dollars for one of them. Write/call your legislators please.

Mark


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:21 PM, Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Veronica:
> I feel your pain for sure. I just went to the pharmacy and paid $150 for 21 days of insulin and needles. I almost cried. It?s like, what am I working for if all of my money is going to go to this? So I?m having a pity party right along with you. I?ll even give you a diet Pepsi. :-)
> Yours in sympathy,
> Amber
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
>> I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
>> regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
>> visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
>> decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
>> nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
>> authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
>> because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
>> doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
>> arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
>> appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
>> was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
>> on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
>> can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
>> my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
>> with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
>> today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
>> there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
>> me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
>> that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
>> blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
>> country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
>> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
>> just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
>> something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
>> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 05:46:58 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 23:46:58 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <5c5f9927.1c69fb81.6dabc.039a@mx.google.com>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<5c5f9927.1c69fb81.6dabc.039a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <08f501d4c104$0a4c9cd0$1ee5d670$@gmail.com>

Wow, that just pisses me off. Was she young?

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 9:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!?? 

Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 05:50:38 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 22:50:38 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>
	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTkLuQ=HCQfFvupX3KWWoPWFNTopDOoHE=vn7pSgiu_STw@mail.gmail.com>

 I'm honestly not sure which is to blame. And I honestly don't really
care, I just want it fixed so I can have my CGM back. We'll see how
things go on Monday. As for where to place the sensor. Although I'm a
small woman, I'm also overweight. So my stomach isn't exactly flat. I
also have a little dog who likes to climb all over me. That's one of
the many reasons why I've done better with it on the back of my arm. I
also find that at home I still get off course navigating and run into
things like walls. And sometimes that has also impacted the sensor
being on my tummy. I mostly wear dresses and blouses and skirts, so
I'm wondering if maybe going lower on the tummy might work. Although I
still might run into challenges with my little guy. He's a 25 pound
Terrier mix, and is still pretty young, just a little over 2. He's a
self trained PTSAID dog, and he's pretty well trained. Both my dogs
seem to be interested in sniffing at the sensor, and I've had to teach
them to leave it alone. I too don't get why if I was just approved in
December why things would need to be investigated for coverage. But
who knows what craziness has been dreamed up. Hopefully we can all end
up being successful.
Doula



From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 06:00:53 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:00:53 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTkLuQ=HCQfFvupX3KWWoPWFNTopDOoHE=vn7pSgiu_STw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004d01d4c09f$eef5db90$cce192b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<085001d4c0a2$32fb9350$98f2b9f0$@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTk-9HoO13pVzosXwLBOoJ4bsej_w7Mh__Jp2Ep92-tKmg@mail.gmail.com>	<001501d4c0ba$c7da75a0$578f60e0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<089001d4c0be$ede516c0$c9af4440$@gmail.com>
	<CAOZMXTkLuQ=HCQfFvupX3KWWoPWFNTopDOoHE=vn7pSgiu_STw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <08f601d4c105$fbb41f70$f31c5e50$@gmail.com>

Doula,

I don't think placing the sensor on your tummy matters regardless of how
your stomach is. My tummy is flat, but the skin is loser from having kids. I
tend to place the sensors higher on my abdomen near my rib cage and obliques
so it's not too close to my waistband. And I haven't had problems with it.
Everyone has what works for them, so just providing suggestions. If the
sensor is on your stomach under your clothes, your dog may be less
interested in it too. My 2-year-old weighs 30 pounds and likes to climb all
over me and likes to be held a lot, and both my boys like to play a lot,
especially rough play, and on my stomach, it still holds tight, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom update.

 I'm honestly not sure which is to blame. And I honestly don't really care,
I just want it fixed so I can have my CGM back. We'll see how things go on
Monday. As for where to place the sensor. Although I'm a small woman, I'm
also overweight. So my stomach isn't exactly flat. I also have a little dog
who likes to climb all over me. That's one of the many reasons why I've done
better with it on the back of my arm. I also find that at home I still get
off course navigating and run into things like walls. And sometimes that has
also impacted the sensor being on my tummy. I mostly wear dresses and
blouses and skirts, so I'm wondering if maybe going lower on the tummy might
work. Although I still might run into challenges with my little guy. He's a
25 pound Terrier mix, and is still pretty young, just a little over 2. He's
a self trained PTSAID dog, and he's pretty well trained. Both my dogs seem
to be interested in sniffing at the sensor, and I've had to teach them to
leave it alone. I too don't get why if I was just approved in December why
things would need to be investigated for coverage. But who knows what
craziness has been dreamed up. Hopefully we can all end up being successful.
Doula

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From magills at bigpond.com  Sun Feb 10 09:37:50 2019
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:37:50 +1100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Thank you all for your reassurance,
 and government ineptitude...
Message-ID: <003e01d4c124$4a7bfc90$df73f5b0$@bigpond.com>


Hi all,

Have been reading all your posts about medical insurance problems etc, and just thought I would let you know that it must be common to governments in general.

While my problem is trivial compared to yours, I just recently found that our government stopped the subsidy on the Sensor  Card Plus meter I mentioned earlier, andso our pharmacies are no longer going to stock the test strips.  .

You might have guessed, no consultation with anyone!

I have ordered another one from New Zealand, and hope it will be ok.

Warm regards,
Paul from Australia
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 1:35 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps

Now if you didn't offer that, you wouldn't have known.
Never worry.

You might have something over there that we might not have in the states.

Original message:

> Hi all,

> I should have realised that people would have already considered what 
> Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list, 
> which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough 
> problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I 
> might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

> With apologies,
> Paul from Australia.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

> There are several problems with this.
> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA.
> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each 
> month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, 
> because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if 
> something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational?
> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the 
> pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely 
> disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that 
> information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable 
> telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct 
> me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in 
> what I need to do to access my own care.
> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA, 
> the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA 
> effectively, I pass.
> Amber

>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:



>> Hi all,



>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but
>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:



>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where
>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.



>> https://aira.io/



>> Regards,

>> Paul from Australia



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 15:25:28 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:25:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Thank you all for your reassurance,
 and government ineptitude...
In-Reply-To: <003e01d4c124$4a7bfc90$df73f5b0$@bigpond.com>
References: <003e01d4c124$4a7bfc90$df73f5b0$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <091e01d4c154$dad542d0$907fc870$@gmail.com>

Paul,

That's frustrating. Sorry to hear that.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Thank you all for your reassurance, and government ineptitude...


Hi all,

Have been reading all your posts about medical insurance problems etc, and just thought I would let you know that it must be common to governments in general.

While my problem is trivial compared to yours, I just recently found that our government stopped the subsidy on the Sensor  Card Plus meter I mentioned earlier, andso our pharmacies are no longer going to stock the test strips.  .

You might have guessed, no consultation with anyone!

I have ordered another one from New Zealand, and hope it will be ok.

Warm regards,
Paul from Australia
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 1:35 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps

Now if you didn't offer that, you wouldn't have known.
Never worry.

You might have something over there that we might not have in the states.

Original message:

> Hi all,

> I should have realised that people would have already considered what 
> Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on 
> list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have 
> enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I 
> might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

> With apologies,
> Paul from Australia.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

> There are several problems with this.
> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA.
> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each 
> month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, 
> because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if 
> something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational?
> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the 
> pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely 
> disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that 
> information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable 
> telling this person information about me, or having to have them 
> direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome 
> step in what I need to do to access my own care.
> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for 
> AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to 
> use AIRA effectively, I pass.
> Amber

>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:



>> Hi all,



>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:



>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where 
>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.



>> https://aira.io/



>> Regards,

>> Paul from Australia



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From mota1252 at samobile.net  Sun Feb 10 16:01:34 2019
From: mota1252 at samobile.net (Milton Ota)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 11:01:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
Message-ID: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>

Hello All:

Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National 
Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I 
suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your 
congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and 
get a bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics 
let congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home 
equipment it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on 
developing guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into 
their products.

As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading 
causes of blindness.

If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest 
that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the 
National Office of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.
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From letsdanceintx at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 17:00:18 2019
From: letsdanceintx at gmail.com (Veryln Baldwin)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 11:00:18 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Securing Sensor
Message-ID: <00a201d4c162$1a6d1820$4f474860$@gmail.com>

Hi Doula,

Thought I'd mention these just in case you haven't heard about them.

The Patch Over-lay is a thin film with a sticky backing that has a hole in
the center just a tiny bit larger than the sensor. After the sensor and
transmitter
are in place the Patch Over-lay is placed over the sensor to keep it's edges
even more securely attached to you. I love these things. 

They are free from Dexcom. Dexcom usually will send me ten each time I
request them by dialing 844.607.8398. I've also used the IV 3000 and placed
the
entire dressing over the sensor and transmitter. This did not affect the
transmitter communicating with my phone. When removing the sensor the IV

3000 took just a little bit more time to remove it from the transmitter.

After wiping off the transmitter with alcohol all was well and the
transmitter continued to work for the next go-round.

If it ain't one thing it's another. Hope this info is helpful.

Verlyn




From letsdanceintx at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 17:14:24 2019
From: letsdanceintx at gmail.com (Veryln Baldwin)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 11:14:24 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Group Hug
Message-ID: <00a401d4c164$12ffc770$38ff5650$@gmail.com>

WOW!!!

If you are screaming or crying or both my hugs go out to you. Seems like a
number of the group members are having some extremely difficult times.

I am grateful I have found this group and that we can express ourselves with
others that understand.

Veronica, I got a great chuckle from your comment about getting a punching
bag with our devices. Laughter is good medicine. Too bad it won't wave that
magic wand.

Hugs to everyone,

Verlyn




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 17:25:21 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 11:25:21 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>
References: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>

Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
of blindness.

If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 17:26:50 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 11:26:50 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Securing Sensor
In-Reply-To: <00a201d4c162$1a6d1820$4f474860$@gmail.com>
References: <00a201d4c162$1a6d1820$4f474860$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <093c01d4c165$cf2d7ef0$6d887cd0$@gmail.com>

Has DAN and this listserve considered starting a Facebook group for blind
diabetics? More and more people are online and using social media, and a lot
of NFB listserves have found having a FB group garners more traffic than the
listserve. It might reach more people outside the Federation too. Just a
thought.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veryln
Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:00 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Veryln Baldwin <letsdanceintx at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Securing Sensor

Hi Doula,

Thought I'd mention these just in case you haven't heard about them.

The Patch Over-lay is a thin film with a sticky backing that has a hole in
the center just a tiny bit larger than the sensor. After the sensor and
transmitter are in place the Patch Over-lay is placed over the sensor to
keep it's edges even more securely attached to you. I love these things. 

They are free from Dexcom. Dexcom usually will send me ten each time I
request them by dialing 844.607.8398. I've also used the IV 3000 and placed
the entire dressing over the sensor and transmitter. This did not affect the
transmitter communicating with my phone. When removing the sensor the IV

3000 took just a little bit more time to remove it from the transmitter.

After wiping off the transmitter with alcohol all was well and the
transmitter continued to work for the next go-round.

If it ain't one thing it's another. Hope this info is helpful.

Verlyn


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Feb 10 17:57:59 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:57:59 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>
References: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>
	<093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group
of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this
potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from
legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
of blindness.

If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Feb 10 17:59:06 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:59:06 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <E4CDDE7E-AE2D-4094-9E60-3E928D817E30@optonline.net>
References: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<42451285-D230-4577-860B-FF5E68EAD097@gmail.com>	<089401d4c0c0$e988af90$bc9a0eb0$@gmail.com>	<000301d4c0c8$31074820$9315d860$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<E4CDDE7E-AE2D-4094-9E60-3E928D817E30@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <003801d4c16a$50aa9e00$f1ffda00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Vincent, that's interesting. I'd heard about the change and mine just
automatically seemed to fall under part D. Which pump are you using these
days?
Thanks.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Vincent Chaney Jr. via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 7:29 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Vincent Chaney Jr.
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Veronica and fellow pumpers,

The following document from the CMS.gov describes diabetes supplies and
equipment by Medicare. The wording of "insulin for an insulin pump" may have
to be included. A few years ago Medicare broke diabetes into multiple codes
without informing doctors, pharmacies, or us patients. This PDF from August
2018 says we insulin pump users are supposed to be covered under Medicare
Part B. A few years ago the Medicare changes put insulin automatically under
part D. What I did was ask my doctor to write scripts saying insulin for the
insulin pump and I spoke with my local Rite Aid pharmacy to have them change
insulin to Part B noting it's for my insulin pump. I was even reimbursed for
the copayment under part D when the correction was made.

Vincent

https://www.cms.gov/Outreach-and-Education/Medicare-Learning-Network-MLN/MLN
MattersArticles/Downloads/SE18011.pdf






From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 18:20:29 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:20:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>
	<093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>
	<003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <93D30F1D-1B34-4151-A16F-8FAEC4C5302B@gmail.com>

I agree Veronica. I was aghast when I read how much time? I counted at least seven years, we will have to wait for anything to happen. I also agree the medical devices are going to get lost in the shuffle. I think there needs to be a higher priority  on medical devices and it needs to be a separate bill.


> On Feb 10, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
> waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
> and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
> need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
> believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
> supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
> 
> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
> several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.
> 
> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
> of blindness.
> 
> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
> you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 18:21:23 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:21:23 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>
	<093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>
	<003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <34094A24-79C0-4B14-89C8-2D539B9B6553@gmail.com>

I totally agree with you. I personally did not like the overlays that I received 20 years ago for my stove and microwave. They were too cumbersome to read, since they labeled everything. I label my own and just put labels on what I most often use. When someone cited comes over and doesn?t like what time is on the stove or microwave, I tell them they may go right ahead and fix them! I don?t use the clocks nor timer on them, so it doesn?t matter to me.


      Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
> waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
> and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
> need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
> believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
> supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
> 
> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
> several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.
> 
> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
> of blindness.
> 
> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
> you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Feb 10 19:01:41 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:01:41 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Thank you all for your reassurance,
 and government ineptitude...
Message-ID: <1f5a11fc.0389.4239.84ef.7c43c3142323@samobile.net>

Do you have a amazon there, as we do here?
This is where I buy my strips, I can get more strips at a lower cost that way.

Original message:

> Hi all,

> Have been reading all your posts about medical insurance problems etc, 
> and just thought I would let you know that it must be common to 
> governments in general.

> While my problem is trivial compared to yours, I just recently found 
> that our government stopped the subsidy on the Sensor  Card Plus meter 
> I mentioned earlier, andso our pharmacies are no longer going to stock 
> the test strips.  .

> You might have guessed, no consultation with anyone!

> I have ordered another one from New Zealand, and hope it will be ok.

> Warm regards,
> Paul from Australia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 1:35 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps

> Now if you didn't offer that, you wouldn't have known.
> Never worry.

> You might have something over there that we might not have in the states.

> Original message:

>> Hi all,

>> I should have realised that people would have already considered what
>> Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on list,
>> which quite understandably irritated people who already have enough
>> problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

>> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I
>> might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

>> With apologies,
>> Paul from Australia.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

>> There are several problems with this.
>> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA.
>> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each
>> month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump,
>> because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if
>> something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational?
>> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the
>> pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
>> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely
>> disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that
>> information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable
>> telling this person information about me, or having to have them direct
>> me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome step in
>> what I need to do to access my own care.
>> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for AIRA,
>> the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to use AIRA
>> effectively, I pass.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:



>>> Hi all,



>>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but
>>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:



>>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you where
>>> the appropriate control is, so you can press it.



>>> https://aira.io/



>>> Regards,

>>> Paul from Australia



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 19:00:06 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:00:06 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>	<093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>
	<003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <094801d4c172$d6e2b040$84a810c0$@gmail.com>

Veronica,

I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone else
crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible medical
devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so we can speak
directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. Any of us could
have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most affiliate's do provide
financial assistance for members who want to attend, because it's not cheap,
but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make all
these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own mouths directly
to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. We
can contact company after company, but until there are laws supporting us, I
doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need
legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone else
doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to start
somewhere.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group
of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this
potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from
legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
of blindness.

If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 19:09:17 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:09:17 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <93D30F1D-1B34-4151-A16F-8FAEC4C5302B@gmail.com>
References: <a6987e95.89c2.4fcc.bf9d.4ea8387f58b8@samobile.net>	<093601d4c165$9a35c5e0$cea151a0$@gmail.com>	<003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Right or wrong, then we need to flood the national office and make this clear. And I mean flood it. We and other members and even our family and friends need to contact Riccobono and national and state how important it is to have a separate bill for medical tech, and make sure people with actual medical conditions be a part of the entire process. Five of us, 10 of us is not enough. I'm guilty of this a lot of the time too, but ranting is good and necessary at times, but at some point, we need to actually do something. How many here are contacting the NFB national office? How many are contacting state and federal reps? We need a concentrated effort on all fronts. And let's keep in mind; it's not just one person (s) or group (s) fault. There are a lot of variables that go into crafting legislation like this. So, I say we send our angry emails to President Riccobono and national and keep doing it until they get the point.

BTW, I was a part of another outside group that assisted in the NFB finally agreeing to the code of conduct that has recently happened, but it took a lot of concentrated effort on our outside group and a lot of communication with national to make it happen. Several people, Federationist and non-Federationist were a part of the group, and we finally made a loud enough noise. It's not changed everything or gone as far as we like, but it's a start. Perhaps those of us here and other blind people with medical conditions need to band together and force some hands too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:20 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

I agree Veronica. I was aghast when I read how much time? I counted at least seven years, we will have to wait for anything to happen. I also agree the medical devices are going to get lost in the shuffle. I think there needs to be a higher priority  on medical devices and it needs to be a separate bill.


> On Feb 10, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to 
> die waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is 
> too slow, and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or 
> the devices we need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and 
> everyone else. I believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle 
> here because the group of appliances is so large. Not like we heard 
> from the NFB when crafting this potential legislation, did we? Did I 
> miss something? So if even the people supposedly speaking on our 
> behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
> 
> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these 
> notices in several places. We need support of the Federationist around 
> the country, the blind community in general and our allies to make 
> this happen. Contact your reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National 
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I 
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your 
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and 
> get a bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us 
> diabetics let congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of 
> medical home equipment it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board 
> to work on developing guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.
> 
> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading 
> causes of blindness.
> 
> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest 
> that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the 
> National Office of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 19:10:59 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:10:59 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Thank you all for your reassurance,
 and government ineptitude...
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Dar,

Amazon is an international service. It's a website that anyone in the world with internet and a computer can order products from, smile.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:02 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Thank you all for your reassurance, and government ineptitude...

Do you have a amazon there, as we do here?
This is where I buy my strips, I can get more strips at a lower cost that way.

Original message:

> Hi all,

> Have been reading all your posts about medical insurance problems etc, 
> and just thought I would let you know that it must be common to 
> governments in general.

> While my problem is trivial compared to yours, I just recently found 
> that our government stopped the subsidy on the Sensor  Card Plus meter 
> I mentioned earlier, andso our pharmacies are no longer going to stock 
> the test strips.  .

> You might have guessed, no consultation with anyone!

> I have ordered another one from New Zealand, and hope it will be ok.

> Warm regards,
> Paul from Australia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 1:35 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] apology re using insulin pumps

> Now if you didn't offer that, you wouldn't have known.
> Never worry.

> You might have something over there that we might not have in the states.

> Original message:

>> Hi all,

>> I should have realised that people would have already considered what 
>> Iput forward, and that there was no need for me to  suggest it on 
>> list, which quite understandably irritated people who already have 
>> enough problems dealing with the manufacturer's obstinance.

>> I have benefitted so much from being on this list, that I thought I 
>> might offer something in return, without giving it due consideration.

>> With apologies,
>> Paul from Australia.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 5:51 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] using insulin pumps

>> There are several problems with this.
>> 1. You are assuming I have the smart phone or glasses to use AIRA.
>> 2. You are also assuming I have the funds to buy AIRA services each 
>> month. And you can?t miss a month if you buy this inaccessible pump, 
>> because of the inaccessibility, you would have to use it. What if 
>> something happens to AIRA and it is no longer operational?
>> 3.  It also gives the company a pass on accessibility.  If I buy the 
>> pump, what is their incentive to make it accessible?
>> 4.  The fact I would have to use AIRA or another service is extremely 
>> disconcerting to me? I don?t really want a person knowing that 
>> information about me.  In addition, I?m not sure I feel comfortable 
>> telling this person information about me, or having to have them 
>> direct me on everything I must do. Frankly it?s another cumbersome 
>> step in what I need to do to access my own care.
>> So unless the companies of the inaccessible pumps were to pay for 
>> AIRA, the equipment to access it, and pay me to be trained on how to 
>> use AIRA effectively, I pass.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:



>>> Hi all,



>>> All I know about insulin pumps is what I have read on this list, but 
>>> may I make a suggestion re using the touch screen controller:



>>> Would it help to use the Aira service to have an agent tell you 
>>> where the appropriate control is, so you can press it.



>>> https://aira.io/



>>> Regards,

>>> Paul from Australia



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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sun Feb 10 19:18:25 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:18:25 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
Message-ID: <8ff542f8.4deb.4c10.b60e.655b47b65a6b@samobile.net>

I am the backward one on the list ha,
where I am in contact with our reps here in Montana.
I do write in and ask questions.
I would be glad to send this to the state of Montana, letting them know 
we also have problems need to be looked at it.
Do you want a bundle looked at first, or do you want pumps, then dex com.
Guide my way and I will do my best.

Original message:
> Right or wrong, then we need to flood the national office and make this 
> clear. And I mean flood it. We and other members and even our family 
> and friends need to contact Riccobono and national and state how 
> important it is to have a separate bill for medical tech, and make sure 
> people with actual medical conditions be a part of the entire process. 
> Five of us, 10 of us is not enough. I'm guilty of this a lot of the 
> time too, but ranting is good and necessary at times, but at some 
> point, we need to actually do something. How many here are contacting 
> the NFB national office? How many are contacting state and federal 
> reps? We need a concentrated effort on all fronts. And let's keep in 
> mind; it's not just one person (s) or group (s) fault. There are a lot 
> of variables that go into crafting legislation like this. So, I say we 
> send our angry emails to President Riccobono and national and keep 
> doing it until they get the point.

> BTW, I was a part of another outside group that assisted in the NFB 
> finally agreeing to the code of conduct that has recently happened, but 
> it took a lot of concentrated effort on our outside group and a lot of 
> communication with national to make it happen. Several people, 
> Federationist and non-Federationist were a part of the group, and we 
> finally made a loud enough noise. It's not changed everything or gone 
> as far as we like, but it's a start. Perhaps those of us here and other 
> blind people with medical conditions need to band together and force 
> some hands too.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> I agree Veronica. I was aghast when I read how much time? I counted at 
> least seven years, we will have to wait for anything to happen. I also 
> agree the medical devices are going to get lost in the shuffle. I think 
> there needs to be a higher priority  on medical devices and it needs to 
> be a separate bill.


>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to
>> die waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is
>> too slow, and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or
>> the devices we need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and
>> everyone else. I believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle
>> here because the group of appliances is so large. Not like we heard
>> from the NFB when crafting this potential legislation, did we? Did I
>> miss something? So if even the people supposedly speaking on our
>> behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from legislators and access 
>> board rule making? I don't think so.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
>> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

>> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these
>> notices in several places. We need support of the Federationist around
>> the country, the blind community in general and our allies to make
>> this happen. Contact your reps on capitol hill and get your family and 
>> friends to do so as well.
>> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

>> Hello All:

>> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
>> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
>> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
>> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and
>> get a bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us
>> diabetics let congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of
>> medical home equipment it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board
>> to work on developing guidelines for manufacturers to design 
>> accessibility into their products.

>> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
>> causes of blindness.

>> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest
>> that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the
>> National Office of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From mota1252 at samobile.net  Sun Feb 10 19:22:50 2019
From: mota1252 at samobile.net (Milton Ota)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:22:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
Message-ID: <525c6dff.cbda.4651.8c5d.02ea7427b373@samobile.net>

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative 
Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years 
Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were 
passed by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the 
home, exercise equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you 
pay for membership and home appliances that manufacturers continue to 
produce that are not fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently 
the Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction 
with your Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what 
about dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it 
comes to smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board 
through legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home 
medical devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home 
appliances. It sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull 
together we will see it happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate 
and if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look 
for your local affiliate president on the National Federation of the 
Blind homepage, and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone else
> crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible medical
> devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so we can speak
> directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. Any of us could
> have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most affiliate's do provide
> financial assistance for members who want to attend, because it's not cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make all
> these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own mouths directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. We
> can contact company after company, but until there are laws supporting us, I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
> waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
> and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
> need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
> believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
> supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
> several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
> you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 20:02:55 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:02:55 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <003601d4c16a$28e7a1b0$7ab6e510$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Veronica,

You are absolutely and completely right! I have screamed to the high heavens at every point in this process, which has already been going on for nearly five years, that medical devices MUST be presented separately, since they may well mean life or death to blind people who need them. I have not been heard. I am miffed that, though NFB has twice set up groups to talk about what is needed, afterward they just go off half-cocked and write something stupid and so long-term that everything we need right now might be available, oh, say seven to ten years from now. That won?t matter for washers and dryers, stoves and microwaves, or even treadmills, but it matters for medical devices, and it matters today! As one of the people who drafted the first resolution and then also worked on the second, I am not happy in any way! I of course want the issue put into Washington Seminar, and I want it discussed with knowledge and conviction. 

Bridgit is right that we need to contact the NFB and provide the reasons why this is not enough, and why all these things can?t just be lumped into one issue! That was tried in 2010, with the same result it will get this time?nothing! We can make everything else accessible?why not the very most important things?

Sandi


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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group
of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this
potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from
legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
Veronica


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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the
blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your
reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a
bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment
it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes
of blindness.

If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office
of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Feb 10 20:05:08 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:05:08 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
In-Reply-To: <525c6dff.cbda.4651.8c5d.02ea7427b373@samobile.net>
References: <525c6dff.cbda.4651.8c5d.02ea7427b373@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <000301d4c17b$ebd72270$c3856750$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Here's the problem I have. Let's look at what the lay of the land is for
sighted diabetics. I'd say, within three years or so, well, unless you have
Medicare, most diabetics will be using closed loop systems. Program your
pump with attached CGM and unless there's a problem, forget about it. This
means steadily regulated blood sugars, real sleep at night, not being
interrupted by alarms, but just taken care of. Anybody here want that? So
given what I know of how the rule making works with the access board,
anybody else wanta sit around for 7 to 10 years while everyone has that and
we continue to struggle with outdated stuff?
Let me add something else here. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. Last
year, the NFB did create an accessible medical device task force, made up of
really committed, knowledgeable and hard-working people. Some of us worked
our butts off for 6 months, leading up to the convention. We were trying to
pool our knowledge, information and contacts to come up with real workable
strategies. It involved educating everyone who didn't use various medical
devices on how they worked and what our daily lives were really like. The
group was focused on diabetes to start. Unfortunately, after our two
excellent NFB assistants left, the committee was transferred over to the
Jernigan institute where it all but died. No more meetings, one blog post,
that's it. I'm sorry that such a hopeful endeavor fell apart. This isn't
something that can be handled in a two-minute session and the dropping off
of a folder. If we don't get the manufacturers on our side, we're nowhere. 
And just for the record, the ACB is no further along either. If I partner
with any organization, I'm more than willing to do the homework, the hard
work and give it 110 per cent. If there had been some discussion with the
task force as to how things would be combined and rolled out, maybe. But
there wasn't. If the organization wishes to make something a priority, why
was there no question sent here or to the task force about what is most
important to us? So I say this with no guilt as I have really been putting
in hours and have been committed to finding real progress in a timely
manner. That's still true. But I am discouraged here. I won't go through all
the strategies we discussed here because that's probably not fair anyway. My
number of phone calls has dropped off a bit lately because of all of the
hours I've had to spend on the phone with Dexcom and Medicare. And most
definitely, I'm all in favor of educating legislators regarding our needs.
Among other things, they are the ones who set FDA guidelines. Why isn't
accessibility of medical devices part of their approval process? Right now,
by the time devices have FDA approval, we're already too late. So please
understand, I'm not ranting here just because it's fun. We need a
coordinated, focused and persistent effort in order that we all can thrive
and survive in this age where an increasing amount of technology is required
to do so. 
We also need to respect and value our volunteers along the way. This is life
and death. I'd give up my business if I knew how to use my time to really
further the effort, I would. I care about the health of all of my friends. I
care about those who count on an organization to speak up for them because
they aren't able to do so. It goes deep, really deep for me. I suspect it
does for all of you too. I will continue to offer my services wherever they
can make a difference. I'm just concerned that once something's buried in a
general bill, everyone who has any authority will think we're covered. If
things take so long, where has the NFB been all these past years? Just
asking questions.
Okay, perhaps I can spark something but I truly don't know all of the
governmental contacts myself. Time to see what we can address and do
concurrently. Thanks so much.
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative 
Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years 
Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were 
passed by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the 
home, exercise equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you 
pay for membership and home appliances that manufacturers continue to 
produce that are not fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently 
the Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction 
with your Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what 
about dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it 
comes to smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board 
through legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home 
medical devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home 
appliances. It sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull 
together we will see it happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate 
and if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look 
for your local affiliate president on the National Federation of the 
Blind homepage, and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone else
> crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible medical
> devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so we can speak
> directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. Any of us could
> have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most affiliate's do provide
> financial assistance for members who want to attend, because it's not
cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make all
> these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own mouths
directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. We
> can contact company after company, but until there are laws supporting us,
I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone
else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to
start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
> waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
> and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
> need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
> believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the
group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting
this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
> supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect
from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
> several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country,
the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact
your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get
a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home
equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
> you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National
Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 20:08:25 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:08:25 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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Yes, the only issues that really count are those most affecting students.

Sandi


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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Wow, that just pisses me off. Was she young?

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 9:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!?? 

Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 20:22:12 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:22:12 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
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Sandy,

Yes. And I agree, national has not done their job or lived up to expectations on this. This is why I think we need a large group of people that include Federationist and others who are not in the NFB to create a version of some mission we want and submit it to national and hound them until they make movement on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:03 PM
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Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Veronica,

You are absolutely and completely right! I have screamed to the high heavens at every point in this process, which has already been going on for nearly five years, that medical devices MUST be presented separately, since they may well mean life or death to blind people who need them. I have not been heard. I am miffed that, though NFB has twice set up groups to talk about what is needed, afterward they just go off half-cocked and write something stupid and so long-term that everything we need right now might be available, oh, say seven to ten years from now. That won?t matter for washers and dryers, stoves and microwaves, or even treadmills, but it matters for medical devices, and it matters today! As one of the people who drafted the first resolution and then also worked on the second, I am not happy in any way! I of course want the issue put into Washington Seminar, and I want it discussed with knowledge and conviction. 

Bridgit is right that we need to contact the NFB and provide the reasons why this is not enough, and why all these things can?t just be lumped into one issue! That was tried in 2010, with the same result it will get this time?nothing! We can make everything else accessible?why not the very most important things?

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow, and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the group of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting this potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect from legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country, the blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact your reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get a bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home equipment it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading causes of blindness.

If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National Office of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 20:27:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:27:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
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Veronica,

I completely agree. And the problem is that it was the NFB itself that set
up the task force. We need an independent, outside task force that can hound
the NFB and ACB and anyone else. As I said, this is how the task force
worked for those of us who finally got national to admit a code of conduct
was necessary. Again, it's not gone far enough and much, much more needs to
be done on this front, but it took an independent group to make it happen. I
don't know how this looks or how to get the ball rolling, but maybe we need
an outside task force comprised of several people from various groups and
orgs and backgrounds.

And BTW, my comment about ranting wasn't directed towards you. You do so
much more here than most of us. I appreciate all your hard work.

I have some ideas forming. Let me look into some things and see what I can
do to start us on the road to something here.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Here's the problem I have. Let's look at what the lay of the land is for
sighted diabetics. I'd say, within three years or so, well, unless you have
Medicare, most diabetics will be using closed loop systems. Program your
pump with attached CGM and unless there's a problem, forget about it. This
means steadily regulated blood sugars, real sleep at night, not being
interrupted by alarms, but just taken care of. Anybody here want that? So
given what I know of how the rule making works with the access board,
anybody else wanta sit around for 7 to 10 years while everyone has that and
we continue to struggle with outdated stuff?
Let me add something else here. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. Last
year, the NFB did create an accessible medical device task force, made up of
really committed, knowledgeable and hard-working people. Some of us worked
our butts off for 6 months, leading up to the convention. We were trying to
pool our knowledge, information and contacts to come up with real workable
strategies. It involved educating everyone who didn't use various medical
devices on how they worked and what our daily lives were really like. The
group was focused on diabetes to start. Unfortunately, after our two
excellent NFB assistants left, the committee was transferred over to the
Jernigan institute where it all but died. No more meetings, one blog post,
that's it. I'm sorry that such a hopeful endeavor fell apart. This isn't
something that can be handled in a two-minute session and the dropping off
of a folder. If we don't get the manufacturers on our side, we're nowhere. 
And just for the record, the ACB is no further along either. If I partner
with any organization, I'm more than willing to do the homework, the hard
work and give it 110 per cent. If there had been some discussion with the
task force as to how things would be combined and rolled out, maybe. But
there wasn't. If the organization wishes to make something a priority, why
was there no question sent here or to the task force about what is most
important to us? So I say this with no guilt as I have really been putting
in hours and have been committed to finding real progress in a timely
manner. That's still true. But I am discouraged here. I won't go through all
the strategies we discussed here because that's probably not fair anyway. My
number of phone calls has dropped off a bit lately because of all of the
hours I've had to spend on the phone with Dexcom and Medicare. And most
definitely, I'm all in favor of educating legislators regarding our needs.
Among other things, they are the ones who set FDA guidelines. Why isn't
accessibility of medical devices part of their approval process? Right now,
by the time devices have FDA approval, we're already too late. So please
understand, I'm not ranting here just because it's fun. We need a
coordinated, focused and persistent effort in order that we all can thrive
and survive in this age where an increasing amount of technology is required
to do so. 
We also need to respect and value our volunteers along the way. This is life
and death. I'd give up my business if I knew how to use my time to really
further the effort, I would. I care about the health of all of my friends. I
care about those who count on an organization to speak up for them because
they aren't able to do so. It goes deep, really deep for me. I suspect it
does for all of you too. I will continue to offer my services wherever they
can make a difference. I'm just concerned that once something's buried in a
general bill, everyone who has any authority will think we're covered. If
things take so long, where has the NFB been all these past years? Just
asking questions.
Okay, perhaps I can spark something but I truly don't know all of the
governmental contacts myself. Time to see what we can address and do
concurrently. Thanks so much.
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative
Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years
Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were passed
by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the home, exercise
equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you pay for membership
and home appliances that manufacturers continue to produce that are not
fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently the
Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction with your
Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what about
dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it comes to
smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board through
legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home medical
devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home appliances. It
sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull together we will see it
happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate and
if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look for your
local affiliate president on the National Federation of the Blind homepage,
and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone 
> else crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible 
> medical devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so 
> we can speak directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. 
> Any of us could have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most 
> affiliate's do provide financial assistance for members who want to 
> attend, because it's not
cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make 
> all these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own 
> mouths
directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. 
> We can contact company after company, but until there are laws 
> supporting us,
I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need 
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone
else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to
start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to 
> die waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is 
> too slow, and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or 
> the devices we need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and 
> everyone else. I believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle 
> here because the
group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when 
> crafting
this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the 
> people supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we 
> expect
from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these 
> notices in several places. We need support of the Federationist around 
> the country,
the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact
your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National 
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I 
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your 
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and 
> get
a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let 
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home
equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing 
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest 
> that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the 
> National
Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From jdashiel at panix.com  Sun Feb 10 20:36:41 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:36:41 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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I have a question here with all of this discussion.
What accountability exists when insurance companies and agents (pharmacy
benefit managers) foul up and policyholders have adverse outcomes due to
inappropriate rationing?  Specifically which agency on the Federal level
properly handles these problems?

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019, sandi via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:08:25
> From: sandi via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
>
> Yes, the only issues that really count are those most affecting students.
>
> Sandi
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:50 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
>
> Wow, that just pisses me off. Was she young?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 9:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
>
> I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!??
>
> Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!
>
> Sandi
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
>
> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with n
 o good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
> Veronica
>
>
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>
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 22:28:26 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:28:26 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
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Hi Veronica,

The other part of that is that once the closed-loop systems are available and working well, the companies that currently make pens and glucose meters are going to either scale way back or stop making those things. After all, everyone will have the closed-loop system, right? It?s the very kind of problem with the pumps right now and, maybe less so, with the CGM?s. 

Sorry if anyone thinks I?m just ranting. I?ve been working on this thing since 2013, and have already kept it from being attached to appliances a second time, or to the Orphan Drug Act (anyone see a problem with that?). Twice I?ve written to President Riccobono, and twice I was part of a group that began working on the issues involved. Both times the groups fell apart because staff left the National Center, and then, apparently believing we?d done enough, the powers-that-be just wrote this Washington Seminar piece. 

I appreciate all the work this group does to encourage each other, help each other through the red tape and the processes, and the craziness, and I very much appreciate the hard work that you?re doing to try to make inaccessible technology a bit less inaccessible. I hope that, together, we can find a way to make this work. I am not in need of any of these devices at the moment?likely never will be?but I have two sons who are diabetic and in their 40?s. One?s now on insulin. If they lose their vision and need these devices and I haven?t fought for them, what kind of mother am I? And I don?t find the Prodigy Voice particularly helpful for me, so I am fortunate to have a husband who works with me to get blood on a One-Touch Verio strip and read me the results. But not everyone has that help available either.

Thanks, Bridgit, for your work on the Code of Conduct. It?s already worked here in Iowa. 

Sandi

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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Here's the problem I have. Let's look at what the lay of the land is for
sighted diabetics. I'd say, within three years or so, well, unless you have
Medicare, most diabetics will be using closed loop systems. Program your
pump with attached CGM and unless there's a problem, forget about it. This
means steadily regulated blood sugars, real sleep at night, not being
interrupted by alarms, but just taken care of. Anybody here want that? So
given what I know of how the rule making works with the access board,
anybody else wanta sit around for 7 to 10 years while everyone has that and
we continue to struggle with outdated stuff?
Let me add something else here. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. Last
year, the NFB did create an accessible medical device task force, made up of
really committed, knowledgeable and hard-working people. Some of us worked
our butts off for 6 months, leading up to the convention. We were trying to
pool our knowledge, information and contacts to come up with real workable
strategies. It involved educating everyone who didn't use various medical
devices on how they worked and what our daily lives were really like. The
group was focused on diabetes to start. Unfortunately, after our two
excellent NFB assistants left, the committee was transferred over to the
Jernigan institute where it all but died. No more meetings, one blog post,
that's it. I'm sorry that such a hopeful endeavor fell apart. This isn't
something that can be handled in a two-minute session and the dropping off
of a folder. If we don't get the manufacturers on our side, we're nowhere. 
And just for the record, the ACB is no further along either. If I partner
with any organization, I'm more than willing to do the homework, the hard
work and give it 110 per cent. If there had been some discussion with the
task force as to how things would be combined and rolled out, maybe. But
there wasn't. If the organization wishes to make something a priority, why
was there no question sent here or to the task force about what is most
important to us? So I say this with no guilt as I have really been putting
in hours and have been committed to finding real progress in a timely
manner. That's still true. But I am discouraged here. I won't go through all
the strategies we discussed here because that's probably not fair anyway. My
number of phone calls has dropped off a bit lately because of all of the
hours I've had to spend on the phone with Dexcom and Medicare. And most
definitely, I'm all in favor of educating legislators regarding our needs.
Among other things, they are the ones who set FDA guidelines. Why isn't
accessibility of medical devices part of their approval process? Right now,
by the time devices have FDA approval, we're already too late. So please
understand, I'm not ranting here just because it's fun. We need a
coordinated, focused and persistent effort in order that we all can thrive
and survive in this age where an increasing amount of technology is required
to do so. 
We also need to respect and value our volunteers along the way. This is life
and death. I'd give up my business if I knew how to use my time to really
further the effort, I would. I care about the health of all of my friends. I
care about those who count on an organization to speak up for them because
they aren't able to do so. It goes deep, really deep for me. I suspect it
does for all of you too. I will continue to offer my services wherever they
can make a difference. I'm just concerned that once something's buried in a
general bill, everyone who has any authority will think we're covered. If
things take so long, where has the NFB been all these past years? Just
asking questions.
Okay, perhaps I can spark something but I truly don't know all of the
governmental contacts myself. Time to see what we can address and do
concurrently. Thanks so much.
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative 
Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years 
Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were 
passed by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the 
home, exercise equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you 
pay for membership and home appliances that manufacturers continue to 
produce that are not fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently 
the Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction 
with your Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what 
about dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it 
comes to smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board 
through legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home 
medical devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home 
appliances. It sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull 
together we will see it happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate 
and if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look 
for your local affiliate president on the National Federation of the 
Blind homepage, and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone else
> crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible medical
> devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so we can speak
> directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. Any of us could
> have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most affiliate's do provide
> financial assistance for members who want to attend, because it's not
cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make all
> these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own mouths
directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. We
> can contact company after company, but until there are laws supporting us,
I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone
else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to
start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
> waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
> and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
> need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
> believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the
group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting
this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
> supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect
from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
> several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country,
the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact
your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get
a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home
equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
> you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National
Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 22:54:23 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:54:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Securing Sensor
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  Yes, I do have and use the overlay patches.  Without them, I doubt I
would manage to keep a sensor in place for the full seven days.  If my
skin weren't so sensitive, I could probably just continue using the
same spot.  As for a BB group, if we don't have one, I think starting
one would be a great idea.  Hope everyone is having a wonderful and
blessed Sunday.
Doula



From joystigile at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 23:21:55 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:21:55 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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Hello Sandy,
I am sorry your one and only Iowa Representative dropped the ball!
In California, we had 19 representatives and each one was versed in the 3 issues and what was included in the facts folder.  Each team consisted of either 3 or four active chapter NFB members and they visited all 55 California Congressional offices on Capitol Hill.  Each member spoke about one issue, to personalize the issue so. At my chapter meeting yesterday, my chapter members who attended Washington Seminar spoke about all 3 issues and the 1 chapter member who was explaining accessible medical devices to us was very clearly explaining about the frustrations with inaccessibility to my fellow chapter members.  I believe she was able to get the California Congressional offices to understand the problem with inaccessibility.

It is now up to ALL of us on this list to personally call our own congress representative and both of our senators to find out that we live in their district and need their help in getting this bill passed immediately!  When a bill number is given, please call!!!

Warmly, Joy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 7:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!?? 

Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 00:09:18 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:09:18 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
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Sandy,

First, yes, heard of the goings on in Iowa and glad the code of conduct was an official thing by then.

Second, I don't disagree with anything you say here at all. But I will say that those diabetics using insulin pumps is still not greater than those still injecting. So, once close-looped systems are on the market, I don't think the majority of diabetics will be using them just yet. I don't think pens and meters will be phased out just yet. I know several non-blind diabetics, and only one uses an insulin pump. The only other pump users I know are blind, oddly enough. Most people I know don't trust tech to help manage their diabetes. This includes CGMs. So as popular as this stuff is, I don't the majority of diabetics are quite ready to jump on board. I have been trying to convince my friend to start using Dexcom; he's been diabetic for 50 years. He's certain a CGM will do nothing more than what his Prodigy can do, despite my personal experience with it. And he's a research scientist, and there's no convincing him tech can help.

Nonetheless, it doesn?t' mean we stop fighting for accessible tech. My endo has been talking up closed loop systems for a while, but I keep explaining that if accessibility isn't a consideration, it won't work for me. She's positive accessible pumps will be available soon, but she has no clue. No one is even thinking about it, let alone working on it. What is revolutionizing diabetes care is leaving a group of us out in the cold, and as pointed out here, diabetes is one of the leading causes of blindness, so these companies better pay attention.

And on that note, so should the NFB. This is a crucial, vital issue that shouldn't be ignored. I understand the need to ensure students and those of us with jobs have accessibility, but what's the point if my health isnt' where it should be?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:28 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hi Veronica,

The other part of that is that once the closed-loop systems are available and working well, the companies that currently make pens and glucose meters are going to either scale way back or stop making those things. After all, everyone will have the closed-loop system, right? It?s the very kind of problem with the pumps right now and, maybe less so, with the CGM?s. 

Sorry if anyone thinks I?m just ranting. I?ve been working on this thing since 2013, and have already kept it from being attached to appliances a second time, or to the Orphan Drug Act (anyone see a problem with that?). Twice I?ve written to President Riccobono, and twice I was part of a group that began working on the issues involved. Both times the groups fell apart because staff left the National Center, and then, apparently believing we?d done enough, the powers-that-be just wrote this Washington Seminar piece. 

I appreciate all the work this group does to encourage each other, help each other through the red tape and the processes, and the craziness, and I very much appreciate the hard work that you?re doing to try to make inaccessible technology a bit less inaccessible. I hope that, together, we can find a way to make this work. I am not in need of any of these devices at the moment?likely never will be?but I have two sons who are diabetic and in their 40?s. One?s now on insulin. If they lose their vision and need these devices and I haven?t fought for them, what kind of mother am I? And I don?t find the Prodigy Voice particularly helpful for me, so I am fortunate to have a husband who works with me to get blood on a One-Touch Verio strip and read me the results. But not everyone has that help available either.

Thanks, Bridgit, for your work on the Code of Conduct. It?s already worked here in Iowa. 

Sandi

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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Here's the problem I have. Let's look at what the lay of the land is for sighted diabetics. I'd say, within three years or so, well, unless you have Medicare, most diabetics will be using closed loop systems. Program your pump with attached CGM and unless there's a problem, forget about it. This means steadily regulated blood sugars, real sleep at night, not being interrupted by alarms, but just taken care of. Anybody here want that? So given what I know of how the rule making works with the access board, anybody else wanta sit around for 7 to 10 years while everyone has that and we continue to struggle with outdated stuff?
Let me add something else here. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. Last year, the NFB did create an accessible medical device task force, made up of really committed, knowledgeable and hard-working people. Some of us worked our butts off for 6 months, leading up to the convention. We were trying to pool our knowledge, information and contacts to come up with real workable strategies. It involved educating everyone who didn't use various medical devices on how they worked and what our daily lives were really like. The group was focused on diabetes to start. Unfortunately, after our two excellent NFB assistants left, the committee was transferred over to the Jernigan institute where it all but died. No more meetings, one blog post, that's it. I'm sorry that such a hopeful endeavor fell apart. This isn't something that can be handled in a two-minute session and the dropping off of a folder. If we don't get the manufacturers on our side, we're nowhere. 
And just for the record, the ACB is no further along either. If I partner with any organization, I'm more than willing to do the homework, the hard work and give it 110 per cent. If there had been some discussion with the task force as to how things would be combined and rolled out, maybe. But there wasn't. If the organization wishes to make something a priority, why was there no question sent here or to the task force about what is most important to us? So I say this with no guilt as I have really been putting in hours and have been committed to finding real progress in a timely manner. That's still true. But I am discouraged here. I won't go through all the strategies we discussed here because that's probably not fair anyway. My number of phone calls has dropped off a bit lately because of all of the hours I've had to spend on the phone with Dexcom and Medicare. And most definitely, I'm all in favor of educating legislators regarding our needs.
Among other things, they are the ones who set FDA guidelines. Why isn't accessibility of medical devices part of their approval process? Right now, by the time devices have FDA approval, we're already too late. So please understand, I'm not ranting here just because it's fun. We need a coordinated, focused and persistent effort in order that we all can thrive and survive in this age where an increasing amount of technology is required to do so. 
We also need to respect and value our volunteers along the way. This is life and death. I'd give up my business if I knew how to use my time to really further the effort, I would. I care about the health of all of my friends. I care about those who count on an organization to speak up for them because they aren't able to do so. It goes deep, really deep for me. I suspect it does for all of you too. I will continue to offer my services wherever they can make a difference. I'm just concerned that once something's buried in a general bill, everyone who has any authority will think we're covered. If things take so long, where has the NFB been all these past years? Just asking questions.
Okay, perhaps I can spark something but I truly don't know all of the governmental contacts myself. Time to see what we can address and do concurrently. Thanks so much.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were passed by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the home, exercise equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you pay for membership and home appliances that manufacturers continue to produce that are not fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently the Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction with your Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what about dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it comes to smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board through legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home medical devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home appliances. It sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull together we will see it happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate and if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look for your local affiliate president on the National Federation of the Blind homepage, and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone 
> else crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible 
> medical devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so 
> we can speak directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. 
> Any of us could have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most 
> affiliate's do provide financial assistance for members who want to 
> attend, because it's not
cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make 
> all these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own 
> mouths
directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. 
> We can contact company after company, but until there are laws 
> supporting us,
I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need 
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone
else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to
start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to 
> die waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is 
> too slow, and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or 
> the devices we need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and 
> everyone else. I believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle 
> here because the
group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when 
> crafting
this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the 
> people supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we 
> expect
from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these 
> notices in several places. We need support of the Federationist around 
> the country,
the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact
your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National 
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I 
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your 
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and 
> get
a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let 
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home
equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing 
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest 
> that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the 
> National
Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Mon Feb 11 00:27:19 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:27:19 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
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We will always have a need for a talking glucose meter because isn?t it true that even if using a CGM people still need to test their BG levels with a finger stick for both calibrating & confirming what the CGm tells you? And, also CGM?s have limitations as to how high they will report a BG number and we as blind diabetics still need to know what that number is in order to correct it.

As for insulin pens I think they will also remain because there are many type 2?s that use small amounts of insulin in which a pump would be over-kill. In addition, as a pump user I still keep pens on hand for instances when something has gone awry with the pump?s delivery and I need to quickly get numbers back down.

Eileen

Eileen From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 7:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Sandy,

First, yes, heard of the goings on in Iowa and glad the code of conduct was an official thing by then.

Second, I don't disagree with anything you say here at all. But I will say that those diabetics using insulin pumps is still not greater than those still injecting. So, once close-looped systems are on the market, I don't think the majority of diabetics will be using them just yet. I don't think pens and meters will be phased out just yet. I know several non-blind diabetics, and only one uses an insulin pump. The only other pump users I know are blind, oddly enough. Most people I know don't trust tech to help manage their diabetes. This includes CGMs. So as popular as this stuff is, I don't the majority of diabetics are quite ready to jump on board. I have been trying to convince my friend to start using Dexcom; he's been diabetic for 50 years. He's certain a CGM will do nothing more than what his Prodigy can do, despite my personal experience with it. And he's a research scientist, and there's no convincing him tech can help.

Nonetheless, it doesn?t' mean we stop fighting for accessible tech. My endo has been talking up closed loop systems for a while, but I keep explaining that if accessibility isn't a consideration, it won't work for me. She's positive accessible pumps will be available soon, but she has no clue. No one is even thinking about it, let alone working on it. What is revolutionizing diabetes care is leaving a group of us out in the cold, and as pointed out here, diabetes is one of the leading causes of blindness, so these companies better pay attention.

And on that note, so should the NFB. This is a crucial, vital issue that shouldn't be ignored. I understand the need to ensure students and those of us with jobs have accessibility, but what's the point if my health isnt' where it should be?

Bridgit

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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hi Veronica,

The other part of that is that once the closed-loop systems are available and working well, the companies that currently make pens and glucose meters are going to either scale way back or stop making those things. After all, everyone will have the closed-loop system, right? It?s the very kind of problem with the pumps right now and, maybe less so, with the CGM?s. 

Sorry if anyone thinks I?m just ranting. I?ve been working on this thing since 2013, and have already kept it from being attached to appliances a second time, or to the Orphan Drug Act (anyone see a problem with that?). Twice I?ve written to President Riccobono, and twice I was part of a group that began working on the issues involved. Both times the groups fell apart because staff left the National Center, and then, apparently believing we?d done enough, the powers-that-be just wrote this Washington Seminar piece. 

I appreciate all the work this group does to encourage each other, help each other through the red tape and the processes, and the craziness, and I very much appreciate the hard work that you?re doing to try to make inaccessible technology a bit less inaccessible. I hope that, together, we can find a way to make this work. I am not in need of any of these devices at the moment?likely never will be?but I have two sons who are diabetic and in their 40?s. One?s now on insulin. If they lose their vision and need these devices and I haven?t fought for them, what kind of mother am I? And I don?t find the Prodigy Voice particularly helpful for me, so I am fortunate to have a husband who works with me to get blood on a One-Touch Verio strip and read me the results. But not everyone has that help available either.

Thanks, Bridgit, for your work on the Code of Conduct. It?s already worked here in Iowa. 

Sandi

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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Here's the problem I have. Let's look at what the lay of the land is for sighted diabetics. I'd say, within three years or so, well, unless you have Medicare, most diabetics will be using closed loop systems. Program your pump with attached CGM and unless there's a problem, forget about it. This means steadily regulated blood sugars, real sleep at night, not being interrupted by alarms, but just taken care of. Anybody here want that? So given what I know of how the rule making works with the access board, anybody else wanta sit around for 7 to 10 years while everyone has that and we continue to struggle with outdated stuff?
Let me add something else here. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. Last year, the NFB did create an accessible medical device task force, made up of really committed, knowledgeable and hard-working people. Some of us worked our butts off for 6 months, leading up to the convention. We were trying to pool our knowledge, information and contacts to come up with real workable strategies. It involved educating everyone who didn't use various medical devices on how they worked and what our daily lives were really like. The group was focused on diabetes to start. Unfortunately, after our two excellent NFB assistants left, the committee was transferred over to the Jernigan institute where it all but died. No more meetings, one blog post, that's it. I'm sorry that such a hopeful endeavor fell apart. This isn't something that can be handled in a two-minute session and the dropping off of a folder. If we don't get the manufacturers on our side, we're nowhere. 
And just for the record, the ACB is no further along either. If I partner with any organization, I'm more than willing to do the homework, the hard work and give it 110 per cent. If there had been some discussion with the task force as to how things would be combined and rolled out, maybe. But there wasn't. If the organization wishes to make something a priority, why was there no question sent here or to the task force about what is most important to us? So I say this with no guilt as I have really been putting in hours and have been committed to finding real progress in a timely manner. That's still true. But I am discouraged here. I won't go through all the strategies we discussed here because that's probably not fair anyway. My number of phone calls has dropped off a bit lately because of all of the hours I've had to spend on the phone with Dexcom and Medicare. And most definitely, I'm all in favor of educating legislators regarding our needs.
Among other things, they are the ones who set FDA guidelines. Why isn't accessibility of medical devices part of their approval process? Right now, by the time devices have FDA approval, we're already too late. So please understand, I'm not ranting here just because it's fun. We need a coordinated, focused and persistent effort in order that we all can thrive and survive in this age where an increasing amount of technology is required to do so. 
We also need to respect and value our volunteers along the way. This is life and death. I'd give up my business if I knew how to use my time to really further the effort, I would. I care about the health of all of my friends. I care about those who count on an organization to speak up for them because they aren't able to do so. It goes deep, really deep for me. I suspect it does for all of you too. I will continue to offer my services wherever they can make a difference. I'm just concerned that once something's buried in a general bill, everyone who has any authority will think we're covered. If things take so long, where has the NFB been all these past years? Just asking questions.
Okay, perhaps I can spark something but I truly don't know all of the governmental contacts myself. Time to see what we can address and do concurrently. Thanks so much.
Veronica


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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were passed by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the home, exercise equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you pay for membership and home appliances that manufacturers continue to produce that are not fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently the Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction with your Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what about dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it comes to smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board through legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home medical devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home appliances. It sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull together we will see it happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate and if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look for your local affiliate president on the National Federation of the Blind homepage, and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone 
> else crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible 
> medical devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so 
> we can speak directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. 
> Any of us could have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most 
> affiliate's do provide financial assistance for members who want to 
> attend, because it's not
cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make 
> all these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own 
> mouths
directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. 
> We can contact company after company, but until there are laws 
> supporting us,
I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need 
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone
else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to
start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to 
> die waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is 
> too slow, and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or 
> the devices we need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and 
> everyone else. I believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle 
> here because the
group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when 
> crafting
this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the 
> people supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we 
> expect
from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


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> available
on
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> To learn more, visit:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these 
> notices in several places. We need support of the Federationist around 
> the country,
the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact
your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National 
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I 
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your 
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and 
> get
a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let 
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home
equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing 
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest 
> that you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the 
> National
Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 00:36:58 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 18:36:58 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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Joy and Sandy and all,

This is a part of the problem; not each NFB affiliate is proportionately represented at Washington seminar. It makes sense that CA had several people attend. In Nebraska, I think we had 3 people go. It's difficult for only 3 people to effectively make a plee. Having said this, we can still call our reps and show support for a bill like this. It may not be exactly what we want or when we want it, but it's all we have right now. Like I've said, it's a start.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Hello Sandy,
I am sorry your one and only Iowa Representative dropped the ball!
In California, we had 19 representatives and each one was versed in the 3 issues and what was included in the facts folder.  Each team consisted of either 3 or four active chapter NFB members and they visited all 55 California Congressional offices on Capitol Hill.  Each member spoke about one issue, to personalize the issue so. At my chapter meeting yesterday, my chapter members who attended Washington Seminar spoke about all 3 issues and the 1 chapter member who was explaining accessible medical devices to us was very clearly explaining about the frustrations with inaccessibility to my fellow chapter members.  I believe she was able to get the California Congressional offices to understand the problem with inaccessibility.

It is now up to ALL of us on this list to personally call our own congress representative and both of our senators to find out that we live in their district and need their help in getting this bill passed immediately!  When a bill number is given, please call!!!

Warmly, Joy
 
-----Original Message-----
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Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!?? 

Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


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From joystigile at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 01:12:36 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:12:36 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
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Hi Bridget,
California as I said, Has fifty-five  representatives!  To visit all their offices in 2 full days and one morning we needed that number of people.  A lot of states have less than six representatives and one person can easily visit in one day.
Apparently the Iowa Washington Seminar Representative was not trained enough before she left for Washington D.C.
Warmly, Joy


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Joy and Sandy and all,

This is a part of the problem; not each NFB affiliate is proportionately represented at Washington seminar. It makes sense that CA had several people attend. In Nebraska, I think we had 3 people go. It's difficult for only 3 people to effectively make a plee. Having said this, we can still call our reps and show support for a bill like this. It may not be exactly what we want or when we want it, but it's all we have right now. Like I've said, it's a start.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:22 PM
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Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Hello Sandy,
I am sorry your one and only Iowa Representative dropped the ball!
In California, we had 19 representatives and each one was versed in the 3 issues and what was included in the facts folder.  Each team consisted of either 3 or four active chapter NFB members and they visited all 55 California Congressional offices on Capitol Hill.  Each member spoke about one issue, to personalize the issue so. At my chapter meeting yesterday, my chapter members who attended Washington Seminar spoke about all 3 issues and the 1 chapter member who was explaining accessible medical devices to us was very clearly explaining about the frustrations with inaccessibility to my fellow chapter members.  I believe she was able to get the California Congressional offices to understand the problem with inaccessibility.

It is now up to ALL of us on this list to personally call our own congress representative and both of our senators to find out that we live in their district and need their help in getting this bill passed immediately!  When a bill number is given, please call!!!

Warmly, Joy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 7:23 PM
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Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

I lost most of my hope that NFB will come through and do something that helps. Today I attended our chapter meeting, where we heard about Washington Seminar from the young woman who was Iowa?s Legislative Director there this year. She started out telling us about the initiatives, the first one being ?Gain.? She asked if anyone knew what that stood for, because she couldn?t remember. She explained it was forming a committee to work with the Access Board to make things like stoves and microwaves and, of yeah, medical devices, accessible. Then she said the thing that just made me want to pound my head on the table. She said ?I don?t understand this one as much as the others, and barely talked with anyone (legislators) about it.? Can we all count to three and say ?Fizzle?!?? 

Hugs to you, Veronica! And maybe a few sympathetic tears as well, for all of us who work on accessibility and without much useful support!

Sandi


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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?

Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said, that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
Veronica


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From dianefilipe at comcast.net  Mon Feb 11 02:29:28 2019
From: dianefilipe at comcast.net (dianefilipe at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Somebody ground me, please?
In-Reply-To: <001701d4c0bc$45e13a00$d1a3ae00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Just wanted you to know I am listening Veronica!
Diane

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, writing my post in response to Doula kind of calmed me down a bit but
> I don't know what else to do here. It's either spit out a bunch of bad
> regrettable language or cry and beg for hugs or something. Today I paid a
> visit to my local pharmacy only to discover that my insurance arbitrarily
> decided to cut my monthly insulin allowance by a third. No warning. No
> nothing to or through my endo. Nothing. Heck, I just got all of this
> authorized in October. The pharmacy said they just do stuff like this
> because it's January. Somebody answer this. Why in the world do we even have
> doctors any more? I told all of you about my fights over my rheumatoid
> arthritis injectable drug, 3.92 doses indeed! I had a horrible doctor's
> appointment this week where all he did was yell at me about what a victim he
> was and how they go above and beyond for me. All I do with my endo is work
> on the next batch of forms for someone. It probably isn't helping me that I
> can't shake this sinus infection and with no good echo location, I smacked
> my head but good the other day, but somehow, after the three-hour battle
> with Dexcom yesterday which resulted in nothing, then to run into this
> today, I'm just exhausted. Obviously I don't really mean this, but standing
> there in the pharmacy, I felt this momentary flash of anger that almost made
> me feel like, well I'll show you and just not take any of it! Like I said,
> that's obviously not my plan, but I sure feel like nobody gives a blankity
> blank about me the person right now. I don't understand why such a well-off
> country seems so bent on killing off its citizens who pay the taxes.
> Anyway, I know you guys don't have magic beans or instant answers, but I
> just had to rant somewhere in the hopes that I can put this down and get
> something done with my afternoon. Thanks so much for listening.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
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From dianefilipe at comcast.net  Mon Feb 11 02:40:45 2019
From: dianefilipe at comcast.net (dianefilipe at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:40:45 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Securing Sensor
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That is a great idea Bridget! I would love to do it! What does everyone else think?
Diane

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Has DAN and this listserve considered starting a Facebook group for blind
> diabetics? More and more people are online and using social media, and a lot
> of NFB listserves have found having a FB group garners more traffic than the
> listserve. It might reach more people outside the Federation too. Just a
> thought.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veryln
> Baldwin via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:00 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Veryln Baldwin <letsdanceintx at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Securing Sensor
> 
> Hi Doula,
> 
> Thought I'd mention these just in case you haven't heard about them.
> 
> The Patch Over-lay is a thin film with a sticky backing that has a hole in
> the center just a tiny bit larger than the sensor. After the sensor and
> transmitter are in place the Patch Over-lay is placed over the sensor to
> keep it's edges even more securely attached to you. I love these things. 
> 
> They are free from Dexcom. Dexcom usually will send me ten each time I
> request them by dialing 844.607.8398. I've also used the IV 3000 and placed
> the entire dressing over the sensor and transmitter. This did not affect the
> transmitter communicating with my phone. When removing the sensor the IV
> 
> 3000 took just a little bit more time to remove it from the transmitter.
> 
> After wiping off the transmitter with alcohol all was well and the
> transmitter continued to work for the next go-round.
> 
> If it ain't one thing it's another. Hope this info is helpful.
> 
> Verlyn
> 
> 
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 11:31:21 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:31:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority
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Hello guys,

You are making a very good point as to having a legislative concern for
accessible medical equipment, so a few weeks ago I found the "Call to
Congress" event for the American Diabetes Association. They have a few days
on theHill just as the NFB does. This year they will be in Washington D.C.
March 27-29. I for the life of me do not see a reason why they would not
take our concern seriously. I believe that it is up to us to bring it to the
front of their discussions. Unfortunately, I am already obligated for those
dates, but if not, I would be there! The event for 2020 will definetly be on
my calendar.

In my opinion, the collective effort of orgganizations will give us
additional strength while attempting to push our very important initiative
forward. The NFB is not a diabetes related organization, it is a blind
organization, we as the DAN is the catalyst for the diabetic community as it
relate to the NFB, so in my opinion, we have already tried to initiate a
program with our NFB and experienced some success. We lost our two major
players, so now we need to find common allies to start our re-focused
approach again.

My research on the American Diabetes Associacion is limited at this time,
but I have every plan to move forward with learning more, because my life
depends on it!

Sincerely,
Walter Mitchell
V-President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network
Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
(513) 582-8606
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Here's the problem I have. Let's look at what the lay of the land is for
sighted diabetics. I'd say, within three years or so, well, unless you have
Medicare, most diabetics will be using closed loop systems. Program your
pump with attached CGM and unless there's a problem, forget about it. This
means steadily regulated blood sugars, real sleep at night, not being
interrupted by alarms, but just taken care of. Anybody here want that? So
given what I know of how the rule making works with the access board,
anybody else wanta sit around for 7 to 10 years while everyone has that and
we continue to struggle with outdated stuff?
Let me add something else here. If I get in trouble for this, so be it. Last
year, the NFB did create an accessible medical device task force, made up of
really committed, knowledgeable and hard-working people. Some of us worked
our butts off for 6 months, leading up to the convention. We were trying to
pool our knowledge, information and contacts to come up with real workable
strategies. It involved educating everyone who didn't use various medical
devices on how they worked and what our daily lives were really like. The
group was focused on diabetes to start. Unfortunately, after our two
excellent NFB assistants left, the committee was transferred over to the
Jernigan institute where it all but died. No more meetings, one blog post,
that's it. I'm sorry that such a hopeful endeavor fell apart. This isn't
something that can be handled in a two-minute session and the dropping off
of a folder. If we don't get the manufacturers on our side, we're nowhere. 
And just for the record, the ACB is no further along either. If I partner
with any organization, I'm more than willing to do the homework, the hard
work and give it 110 per cent. If there had been some discussion with the
task force as to how things would be combined and rolled out, maybe. But
there wasn't. If the organization wishes to make something a priority, why
was there no question sent here or to the task force about what is most
important to us? So I say this with no guilt as I have really been putting
in hours and have been committed to finding real progress in a timely
manner. That's still true. But I am discouraged here. I won't go through all
the strategies we discussed here because that's probably not fair anyway. My
number of phone calls has dropped off a bit lately because of all of the
hours I've had to spend on the phone with Dexcom and Medicare. And most
definitely, I'm all in favor of educating legislators regarding our needs.
Among other things, they are the ones who set FDA guidelines. Why isn't
accessibility of medical devices part of their approval process? Right now,
by the time devices have FDA approval, we're already too late. So please
understand, I'm not ranting here just because it's fun. We need a
coordinated, focused and persistent effort in order that we all can thrive
and survive in this age where an increasing amount of technology is required
to do so. 
We also need to respect and value our volunteers along the way. This is life
and death. I'd give up my business if I knew how to use my time to really
further the effort, I would. I care about the health of all of my friends. I
care about those who count on an organization to speak up for them because
they aren't able to do so. It goes deep, really deep for me. I suspect it
does for all of you too. I will continue to offer my services wherever they
can make a difference. I'm just concerned that once something's buried in a
general bill, everyone who has any authority will think we're covered. If
things take so long, where has the NFB been all these past years? Just
asking questions.
Okay, perhaps I can spark something but I truly don't know all of the
governmental contacts myself. Time to see what we can address and do
concurrently. Thanks so much.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Milton Ota via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Milton Ota
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

Hello All:

I being the one that posted the information about the NFB's Legislative 
Priority, let me explain why this became a priority for this years 
Legislative Washington Seminar.

Over the past few years at the National convention resolutions were 
passed by the convention for accessible medical devices used in the 
home, exercise equipment that either you buy or use in a gymn that you 
pay for membership and home appliances that manufacturers continue to 
produce that are not fully accessible.
Granted that we have seen talking microwave ovens, and most recently 
the Amazon Echo come out with a microwave that works in conjunction 
with your Echo, but that is still not enough. Like you are saying what 
about dishwashers, washing machines and smart refrigerators. Then, it 
comes to smart televisions and they too are not all accessible.

The National Federation of the Blind is asking the U.S. Access Board 
through legislation to put a priority on setting guidelines for home 
medical devices, then exercise equipment and then followed by home 
appliances. It sounds like a long shot but if we all Americans pull 
together we will see it happen.

So I hope you will all get on the band wagon with your local affiliate 
and if you are not part of a local affiliate, you might want to look 
for your local affiliate president on the National Federation of the 
Blind homepage, and talk with them about becoming a member.

Original message:
> Veronica,

> I don't disagree with you, but this is a starting point. Is anyone else
> crafting and introducing legislation that includes accessible medical
> devices? No. And the entire point of Washington seminar is so we can speak
> directly with reps and their aids about this legislation. Any of us could
> have attended a couple of weeks ago, and most affiliate's do provide
> financial assistance for members who want to attend, because it's not
cheap,
> but it's one of the rare times we can meet with actual reps who make all
> these decisions. We have the opportunity to say from our own mouths
directly
> to our reps why this is so important and why we need access like this. We
> can contact company after company, but until there are laws supporting us,
I
> doubt any will listen and create accessible medical tech. So, we need
> legislation to be drafted. Is this enough? No. Is the NFB and everyone
else
> doing everything possible? No. But again, it's a start, and we have to
start
> somewhere.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Veronica
> Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Sorry, I am not totally behind this legislation. Nobody is going to die
> waiting ten years for an accessible dish washer. This process is too slow,
> and filled with people who know nothing about our lives or the devices we
> need. Dish washers don't involve the FDA, Medicare and everyone else. I
> believe medical devices will get lost in the shuffle here because the
group
> of appliances is so large. Not like we heard from the NFB when crafting
this
> potential legislation, did we? Did I miss something? So if even the people
> supposedly speaking on our behalf don't talk to us, what can we expect
from
> legislators and access board rule making? I don't think so.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:25 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Yes, this is incredibly important. We've been sending out these notices in
> several places. We need support of the Federationist around the country,
the
> blind community in general and our allies to make this happen. Contact
your
> reps on capitol hill and get your family and friends to do so as well.
> Working together is how we will get this pushed forward.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Milton
> Ota via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Milton Ota <mota1252 at samobile.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 2019 NFB Legislative Priority

> Hello All:

> Here, attached is one of the Legislative Priorities that the National
> Federation of the Blind took to Capitol Hill to present to congress. I
> suggest that as many of you get on board with this by contacting your
> congressman and asking him/her to support this bill once it drops and get
a
> bill number and assigned to a committee. The more of us diabetics let
> congress know of the seriourness of accessibility of medical home
equipment
> it will get them to get the U.S. Access Board to work on developing
> guidelines for manufacturers to design accessibility into their products.

> As many of you are aware, diabetes is one of the highest and leading
causes
> of blindness.

> If you have more questions about this legislative priority, I suggest that
> you contact someone in the Government Affairs Section in the National
Office
> of the National Federation of the Blind, (410) 659-9314.


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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 15:18:40 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:18:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] The power of social media for advocacy (American
 Diabetes Associacion webinar)
Message-ID: <016901d4c2e6$3c57ca40$b5075ec0$@gmail.com>

FYI,

 

Thank you,

Walter Mitchell

V-President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Feb 12 17:37:02 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:37:02 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
Message-ID: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is based on
one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing insulin to carb
ratios you had during the day. My question is this. How do you make use of
this on your pumps? 
The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of carbs.
I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and letting
the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to determine how much
insulin I need. 
At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 530 at
all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem to think that
we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X amount of insulin.
So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin to
carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a pump.
On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. I
certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as well. Just
wondering.
Thanks.
Veronica


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 18:16:10 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:16:10 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <0c5d01d4c2ff$08c27e00$1a477a00$@gmail.com>

Veronica,

I do the math and touch bolus. With the Medtronic pump, I have the ability
to do more exact math as there are actually 2 touch bolus buttons. One
delivers 0.5 units with each touch (that's what I have it set up for) and
the other is called the express bolus, and it delivers 0.1 units with each
touch; you cannot adjust the express bolus at all. I've never used the bolus
wizard with any of my pumps. I've always done the math and touched bolus.
So, when I have my typical 16 grams of carbs for breakfast, I divide 16 by
22 to get 0.7, and then I dial it up with the touch bolus. And at lunch,
typically I have around 30 grams, so, divided by 8, which is 3.75, and I
would round up and dial 3.8. So forth and so on.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:37 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is based on
one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing insulin to carb
ratios you had during the day. My question is this. How do you make use of
this on your pumps? 
The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of carbs.
I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and letting
the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to determine how much
insulin I need. 
At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 530 at
all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem to think that
we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X amount of insulin.
So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin to
carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a pump.
On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. I
certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as well. Just
wondering.
Thanks.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Feb 12 18:54:48 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:54:48 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <0c5d01d4c2ff$08c27e00$1a477a00$@gmail.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<0c5d01d4c2ff$08c27e00$1a477a00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d4c304$6d8eaf20$48ac0d60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Ah, got it. Silly me forgetting about you doing the math. <laughing!> I
really need my pump for correction boluses because my duration of insulin
action turns out to be 3.5 hours and if I need a correction, the math just
gets too annoying. This is the beauty of having a pump, getting all of this
figured out and then having the pump keeping track of insulin on board. No
way will I give this up.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:16 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

I do the math and touch bolus. With the Medtronic pump, I have the ability
to do more exact math as there are actually 2 touch bolus buttons. One
delivers 0.5 units with each touch (that's what I have it set up for) and
the other is called the express bolus, and it delivers 0.1 units with each
touch; you cannot adjust the express bolus at all. I've never used the bolus
wizard with any of my pumps. I've always done the math and touched bolus.
So, when I have my typical 16 grams of carbs for breakfast, I divide 16 by
22 to get 0.7, and then I dial it up with the touch bolus. And at lunch,
typically I have around 30 grams, so, divided by 8, which is 3.75, and I
would round up and dial 3.8. So forth and so on.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:37 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is based on
one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing insulin to carb
ratios you had during the day. My question is this. How do you make use of
this on your pumps? 
The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of carbs.
I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and letting
the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to determine how much
insulin I need. 
At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 530 at
all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem to think that
we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X amount of insulin.
So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin to
carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a pump.
On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. I
certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as well. Just
wondering.
Thanks.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 18:56:51 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:56:51 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <0466ECE4-782C-4E8F-9DDD-59816283BA36@gmail.com>

I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much insulin I need.


     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is based on
> one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing insulin to carb
> ratios you had during the day. My question is this. How do you make use of
> this on your pumps? 
> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of carbs.
> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and letting
> the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to determine how much
> insulin I need. 
> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 530 at
> all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem to think that
> we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X amount of insulin.
> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin to
> carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a pump.
> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. I
> certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as well. Just
> wondering.
> Thanks.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 22:07:47 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:47 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <000f01d4c304$6d8eaf20$48ac0d60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<0c5d01d4c2ff$08c27e00$1a477a00$@gmail.com>
	<000f01d4c304$6d8eaf20$48ac0d60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <006f01d4c31f$63620e00$2a262a00$@gmail.com>

No worries. I also do math for corrections, grin.

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Ah, got it. Silly me forgetting about you doing the math. <laughing!> I
really need my pump for correction boluses because my duration of insulin
action turns out to be 3.5 hours and if I need a correction, the math just
gets too annoying. This is the beauty of having a pump, getting all of this
figured out and then having the pump keeping track of insulin on board. No
way will I give this up.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:16 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

I do the math and touch bolus. With the Medtronic pump, I have the ability
to do more exact math as there are actually 2 touch bolus buttons. One
delivers 0.5 units with each touch (that's what I have it set up for) and
the other is called the express bolus, and it delivers 0.1 units with each
touch; you cannot adjust the express bolus at all. I've never used the bolus
wizard with any of my pumps. I've always done the math and touched bolus.
So, when I have my typical 16 grams of carbs for breakfast, I divide 16 by
22 to get 0.7, and then I dial it up with the touch bolus. And at lunch,
typically I have around 30 grams, so, divided by 8, which is 3.75, and I
would round up and dial 3.8. So forth and so on.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:37 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is based on
one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing insulin to carb
ratios you had during the day. My question is this. How do you make use of
this on your pumps? 
The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of carbs.
I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and letting
the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to determine how much
insulin I need. 
At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 530 at
all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem to think that
we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X amount of insulin.
So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin to
carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a pump.
On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. I
certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as well. Just
wondering.
Thanks.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 22:09:39 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:09:39 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <0466ECE4-782C-4E8F-9DDD-59816283BA36@gmail.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<0466ECE4-782C-4E8F-9DDD-59816283BA36@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007001d4c31f$a670a670$f351f350$@gmail.com>

And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on what I
eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount I plug in. I
certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just touch bolus.
And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what I
eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I have never
let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much insulin I need.


     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this. 
> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
carbs.
> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
> determine how much insulin I need.
> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 
> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X
amount of insulin.
> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a
pump.
> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. 
> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
> well. Just wondering.
> Thanks.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb 13 02:58:09 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 18:58:09 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <007001d4c31f$a670a670$f351f350$@gmail.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<0466ECE4-782C-4E8F-9DDD-59816283BA36@gmail.com>
	<007001d4c31f$a670a670$f351f350$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002901d4c347$f3db31f0$db9195d0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

For me, these features gave me the most significant reduction in my total
daily amount of insulin required. The insulin on board put an end to
"stacking" and kept me from taking too much, going high, then low, and so
on. Once I enter any number, if I know something the pump doesn't, there's
always a spot in the process to increase or decrease the amount of insulin
we need.I also like the fact that if I enter a low BG and I'm also taking a
meal bolus, it can figure out how to compensate as well. That's the formula
I forget a lot or else I'm too dumb at the moment to do it right. <grin> I'm
quite happy to let the pump keep track of different correction factors for
different times. I just like not having to do the math if I'm mid
conversation with someone, out in public or something. 
Of course, it would be really cool if we could actually read the food
library that's built in and get the info right there. Alas, somewhere beyond
the dish washer. <grin.> 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 2:10 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on what I
eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount I plug in. I
certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just touch bolus.
And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what I
eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I have never
let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much insulin I need.


     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this. 
> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
carbs.
> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
> determine how much insulin I need.
> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 
> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X
amount of insulin.
> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a
pump.
> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. 
> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
> well. Just wondering.
> Thanks.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 17:38:15 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:38:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <007001d4c31f$a670a670$f351f350$@gmail.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<0466ECE4-782C-4E8F-9DDD-59816283BA36@gmail.com>
	<007001d4c31f$a670a670$f351f350$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <08ce01d4c3c2$e6cca4f0$b465eed0$@gmail.com>

I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting was
even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover what I am
going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin ratio, but my
diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I do take for  each
meal.  

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on what I
eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount I plug in. I
certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just touch bolus.
And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what I
eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I have never
let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much insulin I need.


     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
carbs.
> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
> determine how much insulin I need.
> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X
amount of insulin.
> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
> on a
pump.
> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. 
> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
> well. Just wondering.
> Thanks.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb 13 17:47:12 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 12:47:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
Message-ID: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>

Good for you,
When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get 
anything rite.
Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
Have to have a bread stick.
Celebrating alentines day a day early.
Snow is coming and cold is colder.
That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get 
ready for the next meal.

Original message:
> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting was
> even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover what I am
> going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin ratio, but my
> diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I do take for  each
> meal.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
> Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on what I
> eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount I plug in. I
> certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just touch bolus.
> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
> Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what I
> eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I have never
> let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much insulin I need.


>      Jamie

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is
>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing
>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
> carbs.
>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and
>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to
>> determine how much insulin I need.
>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem
>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X
> amount of insulin.
>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin
>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without
>> on a
> pump.
>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as
>> well. Just wondering.
>> Thanks.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>> Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 18:32:20 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 12:32:20 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>

Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
body.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Good for you,
When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
anything rite.
Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
Have to have a bread stick.
Celebrating alentines day a day early.
Snow is coming and cold is colder.
That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
ready for the next meal.

Original message:
> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
> do take for  each meal.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
touch bolus.
> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
insulin I need.


>      Jamie

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
> carbs.
>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>> determine how much insulin I need.
>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>> X
> amount of insulin.
>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>> on a
> pump.
>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>> well. Just wondering.
>> Thanks.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>> Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 18:44:44 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 12:44:44 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>
	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb 13 19:03:24 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:03:24 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>
	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 19:20:53 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:20:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>
	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>
	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Veronica,
I also struggle with breakfast. I don?t like to eat much in the morning anyway, and finding a protein I like is a challenge. I?m going to a nutritionist tomorrow, so we?ll see if they have any ideas.
Amber

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> 
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.
> 
>       Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
>> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
>> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
>> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
>> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
>> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
>> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
>> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
>> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
>> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
>> body.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>> via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
>> 
>> Good for you,
>> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
>> anything rite.
>> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
>> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
>> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
>> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
>> Have to have a bread stick.
>> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
>> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
>> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
>> ready for the next meal.
>> 
>> Original message:
>>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>>> do take for  each meal.
>> 
>>>                               Jamie
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
>> 
>>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
>> touch bolus.
>>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
>> 
>>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
>> insulin I need.
>> 
>> 
>>>    Jamie
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>>> carbs.
>>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>>> X
>>> amount of insulin.
>>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>>> on a
>>> pump.
>>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>>> well. Just wondering.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>>> Guide
>>> Dog Glee Club.
>>>> To learn more, visit:
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>               Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>>> a
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>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 19:34:44 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:34:44 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>
	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01d601d4c3d3$2cdc0700$86941500$@gmail.com>

Bread and even candy bars don't effect my blood sugars the way pasta does for some reason. I find gluten-free products impact my blood sugars way differently than gluten. I've gone almost entirely gluten-free on a daily basis because of this. And I actually prefer the taste and texture of gluten-free over regular, but I find it helps me with glucose control in terms of products like this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using 
> insulin at all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The 
> nice thing about taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you 
> decide to eat more, you can just bolus more to counter-balance the 
> carbs, whereas when you don't meal bolus, you're stuck with the set 
> carb amount unless you want high glucose levels. Bread, pasta and 
> desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike glucose levels. We 
> should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal than carbs. 
> Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels more 
> like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's 
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get 
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I 
> get ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to 
>> insulin ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from 
>> what I do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb 
>> amount I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been 
>> easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for 
>> what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. 
>> I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how 
>> much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number 
>>> of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and 
>>> insulin to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do 
>>> without on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> g
>>> a
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> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 19:39:31 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:39:31 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <01d701d4c3d3$d756e920$8604bb60$@gmail.com>

I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't have a lot of time, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 19:42:33 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:42:33 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <FB7ADB13-7E89-48DB-8199-F192933273BF@gmail.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<FB7ADB13-7E89-48DB-8199-F192933273BF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01d901d4c3d4$440f8d60$cc2ea820$@gmail.com>

The Glucerna meal replacement shakes are nice and quick. They only have 16 grams of carbs and 10 grams of protein. And the carbs are slow acting so don't give you spikes. I usually have one for breakfast, and most days, for lunch too just because I'm usually pretty busy, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:21 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,
I also struggle with breakfast. I don?t like to eat much in the morning anyway, and finding a protein I like is a challenge. I?m going to a nutritionist tomorrow, so we?ll see if they have any ideas.
Amber

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I 
> like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. 
> <grin> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.
> 
>       Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using 
>> insulin at all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. 
>> The nice thing about taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you 
>> decide to eat more, you can just bolus more to counter-balance the 
>> carbs, whereas when you don't meal bolus, you're stuck with the set 
>> carb amount unless you want high glucose levels. Bread, pasta and 
>> desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike glucose levels. We 
>> should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal than carbs. 
>> Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels more 
>> like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's 
>> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the body.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
>> 
>> Good for you,
>> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get 
>> anything rite.
>> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
>> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
>> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
>> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
>> Have to have a bread stick.
>> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
>> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
>> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I 
>> get ready for the next meal.
>> 
>> Original message:
>>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to 
>>> insulin ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is 
>>> from what I do take for  each meal.
>> 
>>>                               Jamie
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
>> 
>>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb 
>>> amount I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been 
>>> easier to just
>> touch bolus.
>>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
>> 
>>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for 
>>> what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I 
>>> need. I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out 
>>> how much
>> insulin I need.
>> 
>> 
>>>    Jamie
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the 
>>>> differing insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number 
>>>> of
>>> carbs.
>>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met 
>>>> seem to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a 
>>>> bolus of X
>>> amount of insulin.
>>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and 
>>>> insulin to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not 
>>>> do without on a
>>> pump.
>>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>>> well. Just wondering.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>>> Guide
>>> Dog Glee Club.
>>>> To learn more, visit:
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>               Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb 13 19:47:18 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:47:18 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com><88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>
	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <8628E1E6152A481889BDC4DE430635FC@eileen>

Veronica,

Not sure if this would be to your taste or not, but I think they are pretty tasty and they are only around 8-9G of carbs. I have been buying in the frozen section at the store a box of Jimmy Dean Egg, veggie & turkey sausage Fritatas. The box has 3 packages with each package containing 2 fritatas. I can eat the 2 in the pack because they are only 8-9 grams of carbs and only about 220 calories. With it I can have a piece of fruit or slice of bread to fill in with a bit more on the carbs because with taking insulin I can go too low. Anyway they taste good and are easy to make in the toaster oven &/or microwave. They are good at breakfast & lunch. I also like the Jimmy Dean Delights egg cheese & turkey sausage sandwhiches, but they are higher on the carbs but still within range at around 28-30G of carb per sandwich plus good protein.

HTH.

eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb 13 19:54:07 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:54:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
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	<01d701d4c3d3$d756e920$8604bb60$@gmail.com>
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I could eat eggs every day for breakfast & lunch. Oh I love the nut butters too no matter if its peanut, almond or any other nut! Greek yogurts are a good source of protein and relatively low on carbs. Of course if you like it with fruit, which I do, then its a bit more but only around anywhere from 12-18G on the carbs.

The one thing I have never been able to acquire a taste for is cottage cheese & any time I meat with a nutritionist they always ask if I like it. I?ve tried, but Yuck ? just can?t tollerate the stuff!

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't have a lot of time, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 20:31:37 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:31:37 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <8628E1E6152A481889BDC4DE430635FC@eileen>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com><88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<8628E1E6152A481889BDC4DE430635FC@eileen>
Message-ID: <01eb01d4c3db$1f1b6450$5d522cf0$@gmail.com>

It's also pretty easy to make egg fritada sandwhiches yourself, grin. My husband likes breakfast sandwhiches, but I don't like all the carbs of an English muffin, so I make 2 egg fritadas in a skillet and put a sausage and cheese in between. FYI, the Jimmy Dean fritadas had a recall a month ago. I assume they are fine now but just to be aware.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:47 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

Not sure if this would be to your taste or not, but I think they are pretty tasty and they are only around 8-9G of carbs. I have been buying in the frozen section at the store a box of Jimmy Dean Egg, veggie & turkey sausage Fritatas. The box has 3 packages with each package containing 2 fritatas. I can eat the 2 in the pack because they are only 8-9 grams of carbs and only about 220 calories. With it I can have a piece of fruit or slice of bread to fill in with a bit more on the carbs because with taking insulin I can go too low. Anyway they taste good and are easy to make in the toaster oven &/or microwave. They are good at breakfast & lunch. I also like the Jimmy Dean Delights egg cheese & turkey sausage sandwhiches, but they are higher on the carbs but still within range at around 28-30G of carb per sandwich plus good protein.

HTH.

eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 20:33:10 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:33:10 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
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References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com><000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<01d701d4c3d3$d756e920$8604bb60$@gmail.com>
	<93C4C07604AF456C8F87BC1A5CB542A8@eileen>
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Yoplait Greek Whips only have 16 grams of carbs. And Chobani Greek yogurts only have 19 to 22 grams of carbs. My kids love these too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I could eat eggs every day for breakfast & lunch. Oh I love the nut butters too no matter if its peanut, almond or any other nut! Greek yogurts are a good source of protein and relatively low on carbs. Of course if you like it with fruit, which I do, then its a bit more but only around anywhere from 12-18G on the carbs.

The one thing I have never been able to acquire a taste for is cottage cheese & any time I meat with a nutritionist they always ask if I like it. I?ve tried, but Yuck ? just can?t tollerate the stuff!

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't have a lot of time, grin.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using 
> insulin at all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The 
> nice thing about taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you 
> decide to eat more, you can just bolus more to counter-balance the 
> carbs, whereas when you don't meal bolus, you're stuck with the set 
> carb amount unless you want high glucose levels. Bread, pasta and 
> desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike glucose levels. We 
> should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal than carbs. 
> Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels more 
> like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's 
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get 
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I 
> get ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to 
>> insulin ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from 
>> what I do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb 
>> amount I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been 
>> easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for 
>> what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. 
>> I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how 
>> much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number 
>>> of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and 
>>> insulin to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do 
>>> without on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
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From diana56cook at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 21:36:35 2019
From: diana56cook at gmail.com (Diana Cook)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:36:35 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
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I am Diana cook. I am on 4 different carb/insulin ratios. My endo set them up on my pump.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is based on
> one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing insulin to carb
> ratios you had during the day. My question is this. How do you make use of
> this on your pumps? 
> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of carbs.
> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and letting
> the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to determine how much
> insulin I need. 
> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 530 at
> all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem to think that
> we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X amount of insulin.
> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin to
> carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a pump.
> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. I
> certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as well. Just
> wondering.
> Thanks.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb 13 21:45:05 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:45:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
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References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com><88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><8628E1E6152A481889BDC4DE430635FC@eileen>
	<01eb01d4c3db$1f1b6450$5d522cf0$@gmail.com>
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Yes, perhaps, but I?m a lazy cook. Especially in the morning I don?t even like pulling out a pan for eggs. There is no bread on the JD fritatas. The sandwiches on the other hand you can get with a choice of whole wheat bagel, english muffin, cresant or flat bread. The flat bread is the lowest carb choice, but unfortunately they are like eating a piece of cardboard.

I did not hear of a recall on them. I haven?t been sick so all is good with my batch ? its long gone from a month ago.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

It's also pretty easy to make egg fritada sandwhiches yourself, grin. My husband likes breakfast sandwhiches, but I don't like all the carbs of an English muffin, so I make 2 egg fritadas in a skillet and put a sausage and cheese in between. FYI, the Jimmy Dean fritadas had a recall a month ago. I assume they are fine now but just to be aware.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:47 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

Not sure if this would be to your taste or not, but I think they are pretty tasty and they are only around 8-9G of carbs. I have been buying in the frozen section at the store a box of Jimmy Dean Egg, veggie & turkey sausage Fritatas. The box has 3 packages with each package containing 2 fritatas. I can eat the 2 in the pack because they are only 8-9 grams of carbs and only about 220 calories. With it I can have a piece of fruit or slice of bread to fill in with a bit more on the carbs because with taking insulin I can go too low. Anyway they taste good and are easy to make in the toaster oven &/or microwave. They are good at breakfast & lunch. I also like the Jimmy Dean Delights egg cheese & turkey sausage sandwhiches, but they are higher on the carbs but still within range at around 28-30G of carb per sandwich plus good protein.

HTH.

eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
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>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 22:36:27 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:36:27 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <0B17C599-EF9A-47C6-AAB1-2ACB3E910ABC@gmail.com>
References: <005b01d4c2f9$908ef440$b1acdcc0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<0B17C599-EF9A-47C6-AAB1-2ACB3E910ABC@gmail.com>
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Diana,

I also have 4 different carb/insulin ratios. I have one for morning,
noon/afternoon, evening and late at night. However, I do the math myself and
touch bolus on my pump.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Diana
Cook via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:37 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Diana Cook <diana56cook at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I am Diana cook. I am on 4 different carb/insulin ratios. My endo set them
up on my pump.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this. 
> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
carbs.
> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
> determine how much insulin I need.
> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the 
> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of X
amount of insulin.
> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without on a
pump.
> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered. 
> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
> well. Just wondering.
> Thanks.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb 13 22:41:10 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:41:10 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <8628E1E6152A481889BDC4DE430635FC@eileen>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com><88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Thanks for that idea, Eileen. I'll check it out.
I sure do like this list. <drool.> Thanks.
Veronica


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Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

Not sure if this would be to your taste or not, but I think they are pretty tasty and they are only around 8-9G of carbs. I have been buying in the frozen section at the store a box of Jimmy Dean Egg, veggie & turkey sausage Fritatas. The box has 3 packages with each package containing 2 fritatas. I can eat the 2 in the pack because they are only 8-9 grams of carbs and only about 220 calories. With it I can have a piece of fruit or slice of bread to fill in with a bit more on the carbs because with taking insulin I can go too low. Anyway they taste good and are easy to make in the toaster oven &/or microwave. They are good at breakfast & lunch. I also like the Jimmy Dean Delights egg cheese & turkey sausage sandwhiches, but they are higher on the carbs but still within range at around 28-30G of carb per sandwich plus good protein.

HTH.

eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 22:39:46 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:39:46 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <2AB519A71EA34FE2A72654D3020B0905@eileen>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com><88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com>	<000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><8628E1E6152A481889BDC4DE430635FC@eileen>	<01eb01d4c3db$1f1b6450$5d522cf0$@gmail.com>
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Eileen,

Yes, I know the JD fritadas do not have bread, grin. I also don't usually make breakfast unless it's the weekends because I'm getting kids ready. But for dinner, I will make something like this.

Yeah, it was about a month ago that a warning went out about JD recalls on the fritada sandwhiches. I haven't tried them yet and wanted too, but this has kept me from doing so just yet. Good to hear you've been fine.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:45 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, perhaps, but I?m a lazy cook. Especially in the morning I don?t even like pulling out a pan for eggs. There is no bread on the JD fritatas. The sandwiches on the other hand you can get with a choice of whole wheat bagel, english muffin, cresant or flat bread. The flat bread is the lowest carb choice, but unfortunately they are like eating a piece of cardboard.

I did not hear of a recall on them. I haven?t been sick so all is good with my batch ? its long gone from a month ago.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

It's also pretty easy to make egg fritada sandwhiches yourself, grin. My husband likes breakfast sandwhiches, but I don't like all the carbs of an English muffin, so I make 2 egg fritadas in a skillet and put a sausage and cheese in between. FYI, the Jimmy Dean fritadas had a recall a month ago. I assume they are fine now but just to be aware.

Bridgit

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:47 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

Not sure if this would be to your taste or not, but I think they are pretty tasty and they are only around 8-9G of carbs. I have been buying in the frozen section at the store a box of Jimmy Dean Egg, veggie & turkey sausage Fritatas. The box has 3 packages with each package containing 2 fritatas. I can eat the 2 in the pack because they are only 8-9 grams of carbs and only about 220 calories. With it I can have a piece of fruit or slice of bread to fill in with a bit more on the carbs because with taking insulin I can go too low. Anyway they taste good and are easy to make in the toaster oven &/or microwave. They are good at breakfast & lunch. I also like the Jimmy Dean Delights egg cheese & turkey sausage sandwhiches, but they are higher on the carbs but still within range at around 28-30G of carb per sandwich plus good protein.

HTH.

eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using 
> insulin at all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The 
> nice thing about taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you 
> decide to eat more, you can just bolus more to counter-balance the 
> carbs, whereas when you don't meal bolus, you're stuck with the set 
> carb amount unless you want high glucose levels. Bread, pasta and 
> desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike glucose levels. We 
> should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal than carbs. 
> Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels more 
> like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's 
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get 
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I 
> get ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to 
>> insulin ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from 
>> what I do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb 
>> amount I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been 
>> easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for 
>> what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. 
>> I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how 
>> much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number 
>>> of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and 
>>> insulin to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do 
>>> without on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb 13 22:43:09 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:43:09 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
In-Reply-To: <93C4C07604AF456C8F87BC1A5CB542A8@eileen>
References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com><000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<01d701d4c3d3$d756e920$8604bb60$@gmail.com>
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I can sort of tolerate cottage cheese as long as it's stuffed with fruit. I do often eat Greek yogurt for breakfast though. It does seem to hold me pretty well. 
Never really got off on the taste of the Glucerna bars and shakes. It's been awhile since I've tried a shake though. I'll see their reps at the end of March and maybe I'll ask again.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:54 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I could eat eggs every day for breakfast & lunch. Oh I love the nut butters too no matter if its peanut, almond or any other nut! Greek yogurts are a good source of protein and relatively low on carbs. Of course if you like it with fruit, which I do, then its a bit more but only around anywhere from 12-18G on the carbs.

The one thing I have never been able to acquire a taste for is cottage cheese & any time I meat with a nutritionist they always ask if I like it. I?ve tried, but Yuck ? just can?t tollerate the stuff!

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't have a lot of time, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


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Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 00:12:28 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:12:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
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References: <a9826728.313c.48e1.904b.7b782f8c0195@samobile.net>	<019201d4c3ca$75308070$5f918150$@gmail.com>	<88D660E6-5D75-4817-826E-EA3D2756B354@gmail.com><000601d4c3ce$cb91db40$62b591c0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<01d701d4c3d3$d756e920$8604bb60$@gmail.com>	<93C4C07604AF456C8F87BC1A5CB542A8@eileen>
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Personally, I think the Glucerna shakes are pretty good. Not chalky or have a weird after taste. My sister used to do SlimFast, and I always thought they tasted awful, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:43 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I can sort of tolerate cottage cheese as long as it's stuffed with fruit. I do often eat Greek yogurt for breakfast though. It does seem to hold me pretty well. 
Never really got off on the taste of the Glucerna bars and shakes. It's been awhile since I've tried a shake though. I'll see their reps at the end of March and maybe I'll ask again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:54 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I could eat eggs every day for breakfast & lunch. Oh I love the nut butters too no matter if its peanut, almond or any other nut! Greek yogurts are a good source of protein and relatively low on carbs. Of course if you like it with fruit, which I do, then its a bit more but only around anywhere from 12-18G on the carbs.

The one thing I have never been able to acquire a taste for is cottage cheese & any time I meat with a nutritionist they always ask if I like it. I?ve tried, but Yuck ? just can?t tollerate the stuff!

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't have a lot of time, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
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Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using 
> insulin at all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The 
> nice thing about taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you 
> decide to eat more, you can just bolus more to counter-balance the 
> carbs, whereas when you don't meal bolus, you're stuck with the set 
> carb amount unless you want high glucose levels. Bread, pasta and 
> desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike glucose levels. We 
> should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal than carbs. 
> Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels more 
> like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's 
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get 
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I 
> get ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to 
>> insulin ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from 
>> what I do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb 
>> amount I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been 
>> easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for 
>> what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. 
>> I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how 
>> much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number 
>>> of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and 
>>> insulin to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do 
>>> without on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 00:41:51 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:41:51 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users. And breakfast ideas!
Message-ID: <003901d4c3fe$14403a10$3cc0ae30$@gmail.com>

Hi Eileen,
I just looked in my freezer and low and behold I had recently picked up the frittatas at Costco that you are talking about!  I can't wait to try them!  Thanks for your recommendation!
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Veronica,

Not sure if this would be to your taste or not, but I think they are pretty tasty and they are only around 8-9G of carbs. I have been buying in the frozen section at the store a box of Jimmy Dean Egg, veggie & turkey sausage Fritatas. The box has 3 packages with each package containing 2 fritatas. I can eat the 2 in the pack because they are only 8-9 grams of carbs and only about 220 calories. With it I can have a piece of fruit or slice of bread to fill in with a bit more on the carbs because with taking insulin I can go too low. Anyway they taste good and are easy to make in the toaster oven &/or microwave. They are good at breakfast & lunch. I also like the Jimmy Dean Delights egg cheese & turkey sausage sandwhiches, but they are higher on the carbs but still within range at around 28-30G of carb per sandwich plus good protein.

HTH.

eileen


From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

       Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.
> 
> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting 
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover 
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin 
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I 
>> do take for  each meal.
> 
>>                                Jamie
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on 
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount 
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
> 
>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what 
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I 
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.
> 
> 
>>     Jamie
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is 
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing 
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and 
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to 
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem 
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of 
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin 
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without 
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as 
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 14 02:20:50 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:20:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
Message-ID: <ae5a525a.8867.42fa.90da.00fe8a7d78c9@samobile.net>

What was nice as they came asking if I wanted the lunchen bowl or the 
dinner plate.
Yes I chose the bowl.
Just rite for me.
I loved every bite.
It is hard for an Italian to give up spaghetti, so I won't do it.
Cut back fine but not give it up.

Original message:
> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
> body.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> Good for you,
> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
> anything rite.
> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
> Have to have a bread stick.
> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
> ready for the next meal.

> Original message:
>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting
>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover
>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin
>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I
>> do take for  each meal.

>>                                 Jamie


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on
>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount
>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
> touch bolus.
>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what
>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I
>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
> insulin I need.


>>      Jamie

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is
>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing
>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>> carbs.
>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and
>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to
>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem
>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of
>>> X
>> amount of insulin.
>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin
>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without
>>> on a
>> pump.
>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as
>>> well. Just wondering.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Veronica


>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>> Guide
>> Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 14 02:23:44 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:23:44 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
Message-ID: <e04d417b.b618.4de0.84e0.5556cad05561@samobile.net>

I can have breakfast for dinner being a happy camper.
Wheat tortilla, eggs, once a week if not every other week a potato 
blend from schwans.

Original message:
> Veronica,
> I also struggle with breakfast. I don?t like to eat much in the morning 
> anyway, and finding a protein I like is a challenge. I?m going to a 
> nutritionist tomorrow, so we?ll see if they have any ideas.
> Amber

>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I 
>> like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. <grin>
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
>> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>> Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like 
>> the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat 
>> something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much 
>> more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after 
>> eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since 
>> it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much 
>> insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat 
>> cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

>>       Jamie

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
>>> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
>>> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
>>> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
>>> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
>>> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
>>> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
>>> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
>>> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
>>> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
>>> body.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>> Good for you,
>>> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
>>> anything rite.
>>> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
>>> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
>>> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
>>> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
>>> Have to have a bread stick.
>>> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
>>> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
>>> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
>>> ready for the next meal.

>>> Original message:
>>>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting
>>>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover
>>>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin
>>>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I
>>>> do take for  each meal.

>>>>                               Jamie


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on
>>>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount
>>>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
>>> touch bolus.
>>>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what
>>>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I
>>>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
>>> insulin I need.


>>>>    Jamie

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is
>>>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing
>>>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>>>> carbs.
>>>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and
>>>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to
>>>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem
>>>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of
>>>>> X
>>>> amount of insulin.
>>>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin
>>>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without
>>>>> on a
>>>> pump.
>>>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as
>>>>> well. Just wondering.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Veronica


>>>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>>>> Guide
>>>> Dog Glee Club.
>>>>> To learn more, visit:
>>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>>               Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> a
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 14 02:27:08 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:27:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
Message-ID: <c42d3f0e.d162.4f6b.9ced.2cd2f88c5ba2@samobile.net>

I love peanutbutter.
Love dark chocolate.
Now put them together and I have a swell candy bar.
Smile.

Original message:
> I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in 
> carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For 
> breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I 
> have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or 
> fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never 
> liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating 
> breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free 
> Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories 
> in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I 
> usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't 
> have a lot of time, grin.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:03 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I 
> like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. 
> <grin> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
> Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like 
> the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat 
> something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much 
> more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after 
> eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since 
> it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much 
> insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat 
> cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

>        Jamie

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using insulin at
>> all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The nice thing about
>> taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you decide to eat more, you can
>> just bolus more to counter-balance the carbs, whereas when you don't meal
>> bolus, you're stuck with the set carb amount unless you want high glucose
>> levels. Bread, pasta and desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike
>> glucose levels. We should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal
>> than carbs. Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels
>> more like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
>> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the
>> body.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>> via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>> Good for you,
>> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
>> anything rite.
>> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
>> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
>> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
>> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
>> Have to have a bread stick.
>> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
>> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
>> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I get
>> ready for the next meal.

>> Original message:
>>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting
>>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover
>>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to insulin
>>> ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from what I
>>> do take for  each meal.

>>>                                Jamie


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on
>>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb amount
>>> I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been easier to just
>> touch bolus.
>>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for what
>>> I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need. I
>>> have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how much
>> insulin I need.


>>>     Jamie

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is
>>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing
>>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number of
>>> carbs.
>>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and
>>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to
>>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem
>>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of
>>>> X
>>> amount of insulin.
>>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and insulin
>>>> to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do without
>>>> on a
>>> pump.
>>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as
>>>> well. Just wondering.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Veronica


>>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>>> Guide
>>> Dog Glee Club.
>>>> To learn more, visit:
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407




>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>>> a
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 14 02:36:55 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:36:55 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.
Message-ID: <e9a82028.7be6.45da.8dc3.84804fd946a3@samobile.net>

I did slim fast, getting so hungry I said it wasn't worth the cost of 
buying it.
I also can't do my pills on a drink, causes loosie goosie.

Original message:
> Personally, I think the Glucerna shakes are pretty good. Not chalky or 
> have a weird after taste. My sister used to do SlimFast, and I always 
> thought they tasted awful, grin.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:43 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> I can sort of tolerate cottage cheese as long as it's stuffed with 
> fruit. I do often eat Greek yogurt for breakfast though. It does seem 
> to hold me pretty well.
> Never really got off on the taste of the Glucerna bars and shakes. It's 
> been awhile since I've tried a shake though. I'll see their reps at the 
> end of March and maybe I'll ask again.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
> Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:54 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> I could eat eggs every day for breakfast & lunch. Oh I love the nut 
> butters too no matter if its peanut, almond or any other nut! Greek 
> yogurts are a good source of protein and relatively low on carbs. Of 
> course if you like it with fruit, which I do, then its a bit more but 
> only around anywhere from 12-18G on the carbs.

> The one thing I have never been able to acquire a taste for is cottage 
> cheese & any time I meat with a nutritionist they always ask if I like 
> it. I?ve tried, but Yuck ? just can?t tollerate the stuff!

> Eileen

> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:39 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> I don't like peanut butter either, but PB is actually pretty high in 
> carbs because of the sugar added unless you do natural PB. For 
> breakfast, I usually just have a Glucerna shake, but sometimes, when I 
> have time, I like to make a veggie omlette or even just scrambled or 
> fried eggs with sausage. I hate bacon but like sausage. I've never 
> liked cereal, even when I was a kid. Actually, I don't like eating 
> breakfast, never have. In high school, they had me drinking sugar-free 
> Carnation shakes you mix up in milk just so I had some kind of calories 
> in the morning. I'm just not a big breakfast person, which is why I 
> usually just do a Glucerna shake. Plus, with 2 little kids, I don't 
> have a lot of time, grin.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:03 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> If I eat cereal, I go up for awhile, then crash. Finding a protein I 
> like for breakfast is my biggest struggle. Yes, I hate peanut butter. 
> <grin> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
> Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

> Yes, I totally agree. I really watch my carbs anymore. It seems like 
> the older I get, the less affective insulin is for me when I do eat 
> something like pasta or one small slice of pizza. No matter how much 
> more insulin I take, my blood sugar level is always high hours after 
> eating it. I also had to give up eating cereal for my breakfast, since 
> it made my blood sugar go skyhigh all morning no matter how much 
> insulin I would take. It is interesting how others can still eat 
> cereal, but eating a protein bar doesn?t affect me at all.

>        Jamie

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Whether using a carb/insulin ratio or not, or even if not using
>> insulin at all, you should have a certain carb allotment per meal. The
>> nice thing about taking an insulin bolus at meals if that if you
>> decide to eat more, you can just bolus more to counter-balance the
>> carbs, whereas when you don't meal bolus, you're stuck with the set
>> carb amount unless you want high glucose levels. Bread, pasta and
>> desserts are loaded with carbs, which will spike glucose levels. We
>> should eat more protein and lower carb veggies in a meal than carbs.
>> Carbs with a higher glycemic index will raise glucose levels more
>> like, like bread, potatoes, pasta, desserts, oats/grains, etc. It's
>> good to be aware of all this and what a carb is and how they work in the body.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:47 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>> Good for you,
>> When I started as a diabetic I thought for sure I wasn't going to get
>> anything rite.
>> Now I just eat knowing what I eat is going to be ok.
>> Except today I am going to olive garden Dar Dars sketti house.
>> I will have soup sketti and a very small dessert.
>> This evening will be a smaller meal, then all will work out just fine.
>> Have to have a bread stick.
>> Celebrating alentines day a day early.
>> Snow is coming and cold is colder.
>> That is how I enjoy going out to dinner, and then adjusting after I
>> get ready for the next meal.

>> Original message:
>>> I have been a diabetic since 1970, which is way before carb counting
>>> was even invented.  So, I just know how much insulin I need to cover
>>> what I am going to eat.  Honestly, I have never used a carb to
>>> insulin ratio, but my diabetic educator figured out what mine is from
>>> what I do take for  each meal.

>>>                                Jamie


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:10 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>> And for me, while I have a carb/insulin ratio, it really depends on
>>> what I eat. The pump can't account for that, just whatever carb
>>> amount I plug in. I certainly can change it, but for me, it's been
>>> easier to just
>> touch bolus.
>>> And trust me, I hate math, LOL!

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:57 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Question for pump users.

>>> I do the same as Bridget. I just know how much insulin I need for
>>> what I eat, and I use the touch bolus to give the amount that I need.
>>> I have never let any of the pumps that I have used figure out how
>>> much
>> insulin I need.


>>>     Jamie

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me here. My question is
>>>> based on one of your posts, Bridgit. You elaborated on the differing
>>>> insulin to carb ratios you had during the day. My question is this.
>>>> How do you make use of this on your pumps?
>>>> The only way I make use of this is by manually entering the number
>>>> of
>>> carbs.
>>>> I take advantage of correction by manually entering bG readings and
>>>> letting the pump use its factors and insulin on board features to
>>>> determine how much insulin I need.
>>>> At the last conference I attended, granted the rep did not know the
>>>> 530 at all, but all of the Medtronic trainers I've recently met seem
>>>> to think that we'll all just go in and tell it to deliver a bolus of
>>>> X
>>> amount of insulin.
>>>> So, can you manually enter carb values? Insulin on board, and
>>>> insulin to carb ratios are a couple of the main things I will not do
>>>> without on a
>>> pump.
>>>> On the Omnipod I have all possible ways of getting a bolus delivered.
>>>> I certainly did with the Cozmo and I managed it with the Animas as
>>>> well. Just wondering.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Veronica


>>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>>> Guide
>>> Dog Glee Club.
>>>> To learn more, visit:
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 02:54:26 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
Message-ID: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>

Only a couple of people responded, but I created a Facebook group for blind diabetics. It's a closed group, which means anyone can join, but only members of the group can see posts within the group. If you wish to join, just search NFB Blind Diabetes Connect.

Bridgit




From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 21:07:17 2019
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:07:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Shot in a pill, New York Times
Message-ID: <013a01d4c572$6fcdaa00$4f68fe00$@gmail.com>

Greetings fellow Diabetics,

 

Our Ohio and National DAN Secretary, Wanda Sloan,  foun this article. It is
about scientist finding a way to provide insulin in a pill as well other
medications that cannot survive our treacherous digestive system. I found it
interesting, I hope that you will also. Please open the link below:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/07/health/ap-us-med-shot-in-a-pill.
html

 

Sincerely,

Walter Mitchell

V-President, Ohio Diabetes Action Network

Board member, National Diabetes Action Network

(513) 582-8606

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

 

 



From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 21:43:46 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:43:46 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
 So I'm a bit baffled by this system. Monday I got a call saying that
whatever the issue was got straightened out so I could place my order.
It would take a couple days to process and then 3 days for the
shipment to arrive. I was hopeful I'd get more sensors before the
current one runs out on Monday. As of Wednesday I hadn't received or
heard anything so I've been calling dayly. Yesterday I was told that
quality review should get it dealt with whatever they have to review
and they should be shipped today. Which would have meant them not
arriving until Thursday of this coming week since Monday's a holiday.
Just just got off the phone, and apparently a month and a half is long
enough for Medicare to deactivate my account.. Here's what I don't
get, if they had to varify with Medicare that they would cover my
sensors to begin with, then why was my account deactivated? May I
strangle someone please? Now, God only knows how long it'll be before
I get my next order. My Diabetes educater is trying to find some
spares for me somewhere so I can have some backups. So maybe she'll
come through for me before these things arrive, but this is just so
aggravating. Please don't tell me I'm going to have this kind of an
experience every time I try to order more sensors. Thanks for
listening.
Doula



From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Feb 15 22:35:10 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:35:10 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
Message-ID: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 15 22:57:28 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:57:28 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
Message-ID: <002701d4c581$e0b66590$a22330b0$@gmail.com>

What about looking for it on ebay.i know that this is not a practical solution but worth the ponder.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen




From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb 16 00:54:28 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:54:28 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Oh Doula, I'd give anything to know what is wrong with this company right
now. Every time I fight with them, someone says, no excuse for this, someone
else says, we have this process, someone else says, oh tomorrow, and on and
on till I want to punch someone. As for their quality control, ummm, isn't
that the wrong title anyway? I have no idea what they do over there other
than delay orders going out. They must be partying along with the people in
the returns department because now I'm being told it might take two more
months to give me my $260 back for the transmitter they incorrectly made me
buy. Frankly, I think everyone who has put up with them over the past few
months should receive a free box of sensors as compensation for their
nonsense and I've said that. Honestly, I want the phone number of the
company President. Haven't found it yet. I can't stand how casually they
tell us that our sensors will be late. I usually hand them some ridiculous
overly dramatic line like okay, if I die I'll just tell my family to call
you. I don't care any more. I just say whatever comes into my head. They've
earned that response. I can't even try to find a good place to write a
review online. 
And of course, the crazy part is that I really love the product.
Unfortunately they know they have me there. I wish I could find out what
leveridge we have. I did threaten to report them to our attorney general's
fraud department once. That didn't bother anyone. Did you ever get hold of
your account manager? The number they gave me was wrong. And when I talked
to someone the next day they said, oh, he handles the Medicare accounts, not
yours. And then I found out that they never actually completed my benefits
check a month ago. I hope life at the factory is better than this. 
I realize I'm not actually answering any of your questions but you sure have
company here. If I get any new brain storms, I'll surely post them here.
Hang in there and please accept my e-hug.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 1:44 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations

Hi All,
 So I'm a bit baffled by this system. Monday I got a call saying that
whatever the issue was got straightened out so I could place my order.
It would take a couple days to process and then 3 days for the
shipment to arrive. I was hopeful I'd get more sensors before the
current one runs out on Monday. As of Wednesday I hadn't received or
heard anything so I've been calling dayly. Yesterday I was told that
quality review should get it dealt with whatever they have to review
and they should be shipped today. Which would have meant them not
arriving until Thursday of this coming week since Monday's a holiday.
Just just got off the phone, and apparently a month and a half is long
enough for Medicare to deactivate my account.. Here's what I don't
get, if they had to varify with Medicare that they would cover my
sensors to begin with, then why was my account deactivated? May I
strangle someone please? Now, God only knows how long it'll be before
I get my next order. My Diabetes educater is trying to find some
spares for me somewhere so I can have some backups. So maybe she'll
come through for me before these things arrive, but this is just so
aggravating. Please don't tell me I'm going to have this kind of an
experience every time I try to order more sensors. Thanks for
listening.
Doula

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Feb 16 01:03:24 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 20:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <002701d4c581$e0b66590$a22330b0$@gmail.com>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
	<002701d4c581$e0b66590$a22330b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EEA8C8548A840AEA1A6F95A388AA0B0@eileen>

Gary,

I would never buy something like an insulin pump through Ebay. Besides the entire point in getting an upgrade is to have a level of protection from the manufacturer in the event, that God forbid, it breaks & needs repair or replacement. Without the Warrantee coverage Iam right now & excuse the expression, Shit-out-of-luck! 

Yeah, so lets flood our country with tens of thousands of illegal aliens so they can get unlimited medical benefits that they?ve never contributed a single cent to, while law abiding, tax-paying US citizens with serious health conditions are limited and unable to receive the medical treatment plan they require & that will help keep them in the best possible health they can be in!

I am seriously pissed at this entire course of events!
Eileen
From: gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 5:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: gary-melconian 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

What about looking for it on ebay.i know that this is not a practical solution but worth the ponder.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb 16 01:05:46 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:05:46 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
Message-ID: <000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> 
I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen




From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 02:22:02 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:22:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
In-Reply-To: <000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTmn_R=6e1atrv=rBJFCjdaxs+hEAbWS3=Zt-pp_hX3kiw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Veronica,
 Since they called me on Monday to say I could place my order, I never
tried calling the person they gave me a number for. But how do they
expect to keep customers with such crappy customer service? I mean I
know as blind people we don't have a ton of choice, which sucks. And
I'm with you, the product when it works is great. But at this point,
I'm going to have to go for at least a week without it. I'm sure they
hide whatever information we could use for making some kind of
complaint. I'm hoping on Monday, the lady who's filling in for my
Diabetes educater will have some better news for me. If she can get me
some spares, I'll be a happy camper. If not, well then I'll have to
put up with waiting for who knows how long. If I could figure out how
to dupe Test support into getting me another sensor I'd go that route.
Because every time I've had a fail, they've done great at
replacements. Ah well, thanks for the hug, and I guess I'll do my best
to be patient and not kill my lungs by screaming my head off. Thanks
for the commiseration.
Doula



From jdashiel at panix.com  Sat Feb 16 04:04:03 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 23:04:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
In-Reply-To: <000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902152256290.26714@panix1.panix.com>

It can sometimes help just after connecting to document the date and
time of your call and destination of your call and identify yourself and
ask who you're speaking to now and write that name down along with
what's being requested and what you get as a response.  On a subsequent
call repeat this procedure and before making any request for assistance
fill the person on the other end of the line on all earlier calls to
resolve this issue including each earlier person you talked with before
you got this new person.  Phone calls are likely recorded and personnel
giving out incorrect information at a company can then more easily be
located and given better training or correction whichever is
appropriate.  Also preservation of a written record makes it easier to
file written complaints with the company and/or any external agencies
with an interest in that company's performance.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:54:28
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
>
> Oh Doula, I'd give anything to know what is wrong with this company right
> now. Every time I fight with them, someone says, no excuse for this, someone
> else says, we have this process, someone else says, oh tomorrow, and on and
> on till I want to punch someone. As for their quality control, ummm, isn't
> that the wrong title anyway? I have no idea what they do over there other
> than delay orders going out. They must be partying along with the people in
> the returns department because now I'm being told it might take two more
> months to give me my $260 back for the transmitter they incorrectly made me
> buy. Frankly, I think everyone who has put up with them over the past few
> months should receive a free box of sensors as compensation for their
> nonsense and I've said that. Honestly, I want the phone number of the
> company President. Haven't found it yet. I can't stand how casually they
> tell us that our sensors will be late. I usually hand them some ridiculous
> overly dramatic line like okay, if I die I'll just tell my family to call
> you. I don't care any more. I just say whatever comes into my head. They've
> earned that response. I can't even try to find a good place to write a
> review online.
> And of course, the crazy part is that I really love the product.
> Unfortunately they know they have me there. I wish I could find out what
> leveridge we have. I did threaten to report them to our attorney general's
> fraud department once. That didn't bother anyone. Did you ever get hold of
> your account manager? The number they gave me was wrong. And when I talked
> to someone the next day they said, oh, he handles the Medicare accounts, not
> yours. And then I found out that they never actually completed my benefits
> check a month ago. I hope life at the factory is better than this.
> I realize I'm not actually answering any of your questions but you sure have
> company here. If I get any new brain storms, I'll surely post them here.
> Hang in there and please accept my e-hug.
> Veronica
>
>
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 1:44 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Doula Jarboe
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
>
> Hi All,
>  So I'm a bit baffled by this system. Monday I got a call saying that
> whatever the issue was got straightened out so I could place my order.
> It would take a couple days to process and then 3 days for the
> shipment to arrive. I was hopeful I'd get more sensors before the
> current one runs out on Monday. As of Wednesday I hadn't received or
> heard anything so I've been calling dayly. Yesterday I was told that
> quality review should get it dealt with whatever they have to review
> and they should be shipped today. Which would have meant them not
> arriving until Thursday of this coming week since Monday's a holiday.
> Just just got off the phone, and apparently a month and a half is long
> enough for Medicare to deactivate my account.. Here's what I don't
> get, if they had to varify with Medicare that they would cover my
> sensors to begin with, then why was my account deactivated? May I
> strangle someone please? Now, God only knows how long it'll be before
> I get my next order. My Diabetes educater is trying to find some
> spares for me somewhere so I can have some backups. So maybe she'll
> come through for me before these things arrive, but this is just so
> aggravating. Please don't tell me I'm going to have this kind of an
> experience every time I try to order more sensors. Thanks for
> listening.
> Doula
>
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Feb 16 05:53:50 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 00:53:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
	<000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>

Veronica,

Last fall when the discontinuance was going on and I could not get them to let me upgrade 3 months early I did contact Josh Gotheimer a democrat congressman for my district. What a turn off it turned out to be. The staff person I spoke to said she was going to mail me a form to allow her to open a case for me. The US mail was the slowest way possible to send me something that was time imperative. When I did get the mailing from his office it was not a release form, but rather it was a standard form letter that stated how happy they were to have my support! What dopes. No wonder our healthcare is in the state its in.

As for now, I don?t have much choice other than to wait for next week to hear back from Medtronics to see what if anything they as the company might be able to do for me.

Eileen 

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> 
I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 13:05:06 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:05:06 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>	<000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>
Message-ID: <02d201d4c5f8$3d4c5140$b7e4f3c0$@gmail.com>

Eileen,

Can I ask why you didn't upgrade to the 530G in October when Medtronic made it clear the deadline was?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Veronica,

Last fall when the discontinuance was going on and I could not get them to let me upgrade 3 months early I did contact Josh Gotheimer a democrat congressman for my district. What a turn off it turned out to be. The staff person I spoke to said she was going to mail me a form to allow her to open a case for me. The US mail was the slowest way possible to send me something that was time imperative. When I did get the mailing from his office it was not a release form, but rather it was a standard form letter that stated how happy they were to have my support! What dopes. No wonder our healthcare is in the state its in.

As for now, I don?t have much choice other than to wait for next week to hear back from Medtronics to see what if anything they as the company might be able to do for me.

Eileen 

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Feb 16 14:16:15 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 09:16:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <02d201d4c5f8$3d4c5140$b7e4f3c0$@gmail.com>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>	<000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com><8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>
	<02d201d4c5f8$3d4c5140$b7e4f3c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5947323923A14505A21DAB19B1429F9F@eileen>

Bridgit,

Last October right before the pumps were being discontinued, I was ready to spend close to $1000 to upgrade to the 530G last October through some kind of program Medtronics calls Pathway to something or other. Sounds like another great thing, right? Wrong -- 

It might have been great except for these little points:
1.  I would have been spending close to $1000 out-of-pocket for a new pump that's warrantee would have ended at the exact same time as my current pump. Yes, no 5 year warrantee as under Medicare, nor a 4 year warrantee as under any other private insurance plan would get a person, only the remaining 3 months as what was left under my current pump at that time.
2. At the end of the day, Medicare with its genius policies would not allow Medtronics to sell me a pump outside of insurance! So I had been screwed no matter what. 

Then through the Medtronic?s rep that deals with my doctor?s office and who went to bat for me by going high up in the company telling them it just wasn?t right what was being done to me, they finally agreed that come this time when my pump was finally out of the warrantee period they would make sure I would get a 530G that would be purchased under Medicare and therefore I?d get the 5 year warrantee policy with it.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:05 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Eileen,

Can I ask why you didn't upgrade to the 530G in October when Medtronic made it clear the deadline was?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Veronica,

Last fall when the discontinuance was going on and I could not get them to let me upgrade 3 months early I did contact Josh Gotheimer a democrat congressman for my district. What a turn off it turned out to be. The staff person I spoke to said she was going to mail me a form to allow her to open a case for me. The US mail was the slowest way possible to send me something that was time imperative. When I did get the mailing from his office it was not a release form, but rather it was a standard form letter that stated how happy they were to have my support! What dopes. No wonder our healthcare is in the state its in.

As for now, I don?t have much choice other than to wait for next week to hear back from Medtronics to see what if anything they as the company might be able to do for me.

Eileen 

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 14:29:04 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 08:29:04 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <5947323923A14505A21DAB19B1429F9F@eileen>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>	<000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com><8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>	<02d201d4c5f8$3d4c5140$b7e4f3c0$@gmail.com>
	<5947323923A14505A21DAB19B1429F9F@eileen>
Message-ID: <02ea01d4c603$f8744d00$e95ce700$@gmail.com>

Eileen,

I upgraded in October from my Animas to the Medtronic 530G even though my upgrade with Medicare wasn't up until December. I'm also with Medicare. My doctor sent a letter to Medtronic and Medicare, explaining the situation, and Medicare gave approval for the upgrade in October. I only have to pay $300 for the upgrade.

I'm well aware of the ridiculous nature of pump upgrades with Medicare. I don't know why this is; it's always been like this as long as I've been on a pump.

I'm not saying it's right since us blind diabetics have no other options, but Medtronic did make it clear that after October 26, it would no longer provide a warranty on the 530G. It seems it has changed this a bit if your carrier will support it. Nonetheless, we were given a deadline last October. I know a couple of other blind pump users with Medicare who also were able to upgrade and are not paying that much.

Sorry you're dealing with this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:16 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Bridgit,

Last October right before the pumps were being discontinued, I was ready to spend close to $1000 to upgrade to the 530G last October through some kind of program Medtronics calls Pathway to something or other. Sounds like another great thing, right? Wrong -- 

It might have been great except for these little points:
1.  I would have been spending close to $1000 out-of-pocket for a new pump that's warrantee would have ended at the exact same time as my current pump. Yes, no 5 year warrantee as under Medicare, nor a 4 year warrantee as under any other private insurance plan would get a person, only the remaining 3 months as what was left under my current pump at that time.
2. At the end of the day, Medicare with its genius policies would not allow Medtronics to sell me a pump outside of insurance! So I had been screwed no matter what. 

Then through the Medtronic?s rep that deals with my doctor?s office and who went to bat for me by going high up in the company telling them it just wasn?t right what was being done to me, they finally agreed that come this time when my pump was finally out of the warrantee period they would make sure I would get a 530G that would be purchased under Medicare and therefore I?d get the 5 year warrantee policy with it.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:05 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Eileen,

Can I ask why you didn't upgrade to the 530G in October when Medtronic made it clear the deadline was?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Veronica,

Last fall when the discontinuance was going on and I could not get them to let me upgrade 3 months early I did contact Josh Gotheimer a democrat congressman for my district. What a turn off it turned out to be. The staff person I spoke to said she was going to mail me a form to allow her to open a case for me. The US mail was the slowest way possible to send me something that was time imperative. When I did get the mailing from his office it was not a release form, but rather it was a standard form letter that stated how happy they were to have my support! What dopes. No wonder our healthcare is in the state its in.

As for now, I don?t have much choice other than to wait for next week to hear back from Medtronics to see what if anything they as the company might be able to do for me.

Eileen 

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Hi All,

I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.

Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 

The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!

I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.

Thanks for listening to my sob story.

Eileen


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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 18:40:55 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 11:40:55 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902152256290.26714@panix1.panix.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<alpine.NEB.2.21.1902152256290.26714@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTm4Rb+NxgUF0Bh8PupYEQo_weZVD7Xo6-rguofQi_LVsw@mail.gmail.com>

 Thanks Jude for this advice. Funny thing was yesterday the guy I was
talking with said he was sitting right next to the lady who I talked
with the day before. And that she gave me accurate information. That
what was subsequently being dealt with hadn't popped up yet the day
before. Which would indicate to me that their system is just not all
that well streamlined. And at this point, I'm not even sure who I
would complain too. Which is a problem within itself. Hopefully
whatever is going on gets dealt with the beginning of this coming week
and the darn things will get shipped out.
Doula



From jdashiel at panix.com  Sat Feb 16 18:52:34 2019
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:52:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTm4Rb+NxgUF0Bh8PupYEQo_weZVD7Xo6-rguofQi_LVsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<alpine.NEB.2.21.1902152256290.26714@panix1.panix.com>
	<CAOZMXTm4Rb+NxgUF0Bh8PupYEQo_weZVD7Xo6-rguofQi_LVsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1902161350480.16267@panix1.panix.com>

Remember, document shipment reciepts and shipment condition and reciept
dates and keep that information in the same log files.  If you have to
refer back to anything you have it all in one place.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019, Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:40:55
> From: Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
>
>  Thanks Jude for this advice. Funny thing was yesterday the guy I was
> talking with said he was sitting right next to the lady who I talked
> with the day before. And that she gave me accurate information. That
> what was subsequently being dealt with hadn't popped up yet the day
> before. Which would indicate to me that their system is just not all
> that well streamlined. And at this point, I'm not even sure who I
> would complain too. Which is a problem within itself. Hopefully
> whatever is going on gets dealt with the beginning of this coming week
> and the darn things will get shipped out.
> Doula
>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb 16 19:41:11 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 11:41:11 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTm4Rb+NxgUF0Bh8PupYEQo_weZVD7Xo6-rguofQi_LVsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmQ83vDHbUpDN+wnoUPdiP=Kt01Qjo-jL2BpKqpua2Uvg@mail.gmail.com>	<000801d4c592$2bce1450$836a3cf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<alpine.NEB.2.21.1902152256290.26714@panix1.panix.com>
	<CAOZMXTm4Rb+NxgUF0Bh8PupYEQo_weZVD7Xo6-rguofQi_LVsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d4c62f$91f3bee0$b5db3ca0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I had one guy hang up on me last week and I discovered that he hadn't even
notated the existence of the call other than to make a referral for a
supervisor to call me back. So I gave them his name and it's now entered.
Funny thing though, no supervisor has called me back. No benefits check. No
update on my refund. Nothing. 
I am researching just how to go to the consumer affairs division of the
attorney general's office and see exactly how to present what to whom. Stay
tuned.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:41 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] more frustrations

 Thanks Jude for this advice. Funny thing was yesterday the guy I was
talking with said he was sitting right next to the lady who I talked
with the day before. And that she gave me accurate information. That
what was subsequently being dealt with hadn't popped up yet the day
before. Which would indicate to me that their system is just not all
that well streamlined. And at this point, I'm not even sure who I
would complain too. Which is a problem within itself. Hopefully
whatever is going on gets dealt with the beginning of this coming week
and the darn things will get shipped out.
Doula

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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 20:40:49 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:40:49 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <02ea01d4c603$f8744d00$e95ce700$@gmail.com>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>
	<000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>
	<02d201d4c5f8$3d4c5140$b7e4f3c0$@gmail.com>
	<5947323923A14505A21DAB19B1429F9F@eileen>
	<02ea01d4c603$f8744d00$e95ce700$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <958E5055-8E6D-4DE8-ABBD-D96A4C22E223@gmail.com>

Bridget,


Those of us who were given the 530 G as an exchange for the Animas pump had different insurance requirements. I found that out when I had to order my supplies for the first time after my original supply order was running out. Because it was the first time Medicare would be paying for the supplies, I had to go through the whole Medicare packet and review. The original supplies were exchanged for the infusion sets that I had left from the animus pump, and I believe my 530 G was just exchanged for the animus pump. I did not have to pay anything when I did the initial exchange.



      Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I upgraded in October from my Animas to the Medtronic 530G even though my upgrade with Medicare wasn't up until December. I'm also with Medicare. My doctor sent a letter to Medtronic and Medicare, explaining the situation, and Medicare gave approval for the upgrade in October. I only have to pay $300 for the upgrade.
> 
> I'm well aware of the ridiculous nature of pump upgrades with Medicare. I don't know why this is; it's always been like this as long as I've been on a pump.
> 
> I'm not saying it's right since us blind diabetics have no other options, but Medtronic did make it clear that after October 26, it would no longer provide a warranty on the 530G. It seems it has changed this a bit if your carrier will support it. Nonetheless, we were given a deadline last October. I know a couple of other blind pump users with Medicare who also were able to upgrade and are not paying that much.
> 
> Sorry you're dealing with this.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Bridgit,
> 
> Last October right before the pumps were being discontinued, I was ready to spend close to $1000 to upgrade to the 530G last October through some kind of program Medtronics calls Pathway to something or other. Sounds like another great thing, right? Wrong -- 
> 
> It might have been great except for these little points:
> 1.  I would have been spending close to $1000 out-of-pocket for a new pump that's warrantee would have ended at the exact same time as my current pump. Yes, no 5 year warrantee as under Medicare, nor a 4 year warrantee as under any other private insurance plan would get a person, only the remaining 3 months as what was left under my current pump at that time.
> 2. At the end of the day, Medicare with its genius policies would not allow Medtronics to sell me a pump outside of insurance! So I had been screwed no matter what. 
> 
> Then through the Medtronic?s rep that deals with my doctor?s office and who went to bat for me by going high up in the company telling them it just wasn?t right what was being done to me, they finally agreed that come this time when my pump was finally out of the warrantee period they would make sure I would get a 530G that would be purchased under Medicare and therefore I?d get the 5 year warrantee policy with it.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:05 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> Can I ask why you didn't upgrade to the 530G in October when Medtronic made it clear the deadline was?
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:54 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Veronica,
> 
> Last fall when the discontinuance was going on and I could not get them to let me upgrade 3 months early I did contact Josh Gotheimer a democrat congressman for my district. What a turn off it turned out to be. The staff person I spoke to said she was going to mail me a form to allow her to open a case for me. The US mail was the slowest way possible to send me something that was time imperative. When I did get the mailing from his office it was not a release form, but rather it was a standard form letter that stated how happy they were to have my support! What dopes. No wonder our healthcare is in the state its in.
> 
> As for now, I don?t have much choice other than to wait for next week to hear back from Medtronics to see what if anything they as the company might be able to do for me.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
> This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
> So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
> There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
> To: NFB Diabetes Talk
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.
> 
> Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 
> 
> The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!
> 
> I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.
> 
> Thanks for listening to my sob story.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb 16 23:28:14 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 15:28:14 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
In-Reply-To: <958E5055-8E6D-4DE8-ABBD-D96A4C22E223@gmail.com>
References: <F42EF04A5AAB4C55B96EF5D1C06C025A@eileen>	<000a01d4c593$bf9d04b0$3ed70e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<8ABFC82E6B694FE2955A7BECA5543434@eileen>	<02d201d4c5f8$3d4c5140$b7e4f3c0$@gmail.com>	<5947323923A14505A21DAB19B1429F9F@eileen>	<02ea01d4c603$f8744d00$e95ce700$@gmail.com>
	<958E5055-8E6D-4DE8-ABBD-D96A4C22E223@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d4c64f$49dca520$dd95ef60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

That makes sense. Medtronic was offering a free upgrade, or at least that's what they called it for those of us on the Animas. But then Medtronic's language about free upgrades is legendary.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 12:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Jamie Gurganus
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...

Bridget,


Those of us who were given the 530 G as an exchange for the Animas pump had different insurance requirements. I found that out when I had to order my supplies for the first time after my original supply order was running out. Because it was the first time Medicare would be paying for the supplies, I had to go through the whole Medicare packet and review. The original supplies were exchanged for the infusion sets that I had left from the animus pump, and I believe my 530 G was just exchanged for the animus pump. I did not have to pay anything when I did the initial exchange.



      Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I upgraded in October from my Animas to the Medtronic 530G even though my upgrade with Medicare wasn't up until December. I'm also with Medicare. My doctor sent a letter to Medtronic and Medicare, explaining the situation, and Medicare gave approval for the upgrade in October. I only have to pay $300 for the upgrade.
> 
> I'm well aware of the ridiculous nature of pump upgrades with Medicare. I don't know why this is; it's always been like this as long as I've been on a pump.
> 
> I'm not saying it's right since us blind diabetics have no other options, but Medtronic did make it clear that after October 26, it would no longer provide a warranty on the 530G. It seems it has changed this a bit if your carrier will support it. Nonetheless, we were given a deadline last October. I know a couple of other blind pump users with Medicare who also were able to upgrade and are not paying that much.
> 
> Sorry you're dealing with this.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:16 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Bridgit,
> 
> Last October right before the pumps were being discontinued, I was ready to spend close to $1000 to upgrade to the 530G last October through some kind of program Medtronics calls Pathway to something or other. Sounds like another great thing, right? Wrong -- 
> 
> It might have been great except for these little points:
> 1.  I would have been spending close to $1000 out-of-pocket for a new pump that's warrantee would have ended at the exact same time as my current pump. Yes, no 5 year warrantee as under Medicare, nor a 4 year warrantee as under any other private insurance plan would get a person, only the remaining 3 months as what was left under my current pump at that time.
> 2. At the end of the day, Medicare with its genius policies would not allow Medtronics to sell me a pump outside of insurance! So I had been screwed no matter what. 
> 
> Then through the Medtronic?s rep that deals with my doctor?s office and who went to bat for me by going high up in the company telling them it just wasn?t right what was being done to me, they finally agreed that come this time when my pump was finally out of the warrantee period they would make sure I would get a 530G that would be purchased under Medicare and therefore I?d get the 5 year warrantee policy with it.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:05 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> Can I ask why you didn't upgrade to the 530G in October when Medtronic made it clear the deadline was?
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:54 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Veronica,
> 
> Last fall when the discontinuance was going on and I could not get them to let me upgrade 3 months early I did contact Josh Gotheimer a democrat congressman for my district. What a turn off it turned out to be. The staff person I spoke to said she was going to mail me a form to allow her to open a case for me. The US mail was the slowest way possible to send me something that was time imperative. When I did get the mailing from his office it was not a release form, but rather it was a standard form letter that stated how happy they were to have my support! What dopes. No wonder our healthcare is in the state its in.
> 
> As for now, I don?t have much choice other than to wait for next week to hear back from Medtronics to see what if anything they as the company might be able to do for me.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> OMG! This is crazy! Does anyone actually get into the business any more because they actually want to help people? Or improve their lives? Do they have any thought for how much extra they're going to pay because of the negative health effects caused by all this extra stress? 
> This is one of the things that concerned me last year about getting a discontinued pump. That, and if it breaks, would they be able to overnight one to me? Eileen, if you can find it within yourself, this is a time to call your Congressional representatives. We need to start bombarding them with each instance where the stupid rules and buddy buddy agreements prevent us from getting good health care for reasons which we cannot possibly control. Someone should be able to help you apply for a waver here. And you could convince me that they deliberately drop these things on us on Friday so we have to sit with them all week end, hoping we'll give up. 
> So, feel free to get it out of your system here, so we can help back you up as you fight for what you need. I don't understand why Medicare can't work like every other commercial insurance agency. They could save a bunch of money if they'd just ditch the huge staff that does nothing else but look for that tiny tiny fraction of so-called fraud they're chasing. Bet they spend more trying to find it than they save by stopping anything. I still can't figure out how they are allowing me 3.92 injections per month of my Enbrel. What are they going to do, short sheet one of the pens? <growl.> I am so sorry you're going through this. So let me take this moment to loudly proclaim, Eileen deserves an up-to-date accessible insulin pump which is covered under warranty. Now!
> There. Maybe I can help you to get through this just a bit. Holler at me any ol' time.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:35 PM
> To: NFB Diabetes Talk
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pump upgrade - to be or not to be ... ...
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need to blow off steam over the hell I?ve gone through trying to get my insulin pump upgraded. As you may or may not recall I have been using the Medtronics Paradigm pump which just came out of its 5 year warrantee.
> 
> Through persuasion from higher levels, Medtronics was agreeable to letting me upgrade to one of the 530G pumps that got discontinued last October so I would still have a working pump that would be under warrantee coverage over the next 5 years. I started the process with Medtronics about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Medtronics in turn reached out to the  supplier I?ve been dealing with all these years to see if they still had a 530G in stock and they did. Great, right? You would think so but here?s where the process once again goes crazy. 
> 
> The supply company contacted me 2 days ago about paperwork I had to sign off on for Medicare & to let me know they were sending more paperwork for my doc to sign off on. I signed what I had to as did my doctor. I just got a call from the supply company telling me they cannot sell the pump to me because under Medicare they will only agree to pay for an insulin pump up to a bit over $4,000. Even if I could pay the amount beyond the Medicare limit they won?t let me! They cannot sell the pump outright to me and they won?t let me cover the difference that Medicare will not pay for so I?m stuck again with not being able to upgrade my pump that is now over 5 years old. This is so phenomenally upsetting & the absurd rules of coverage. the supply company?s rep  told me that unless I wanted the 630G she could not let me have an insulin pump! How crazy is this system that a now discontinued pump is more expensive than the newest version of the Medtronics insulin pump. I?d love a 630G if I had the eyes in my head that worked so I could use the dam thing!
> 
> I have a call into the Medtronics rep to see if they know of other distributors that might work something out with me or sell the 530G for a less expensive price. Now I get to wait over a long holiday weekend thinking I?ll not be able to upgrade. God help me if I have to go back onto injections.
> 
> Thanks for listening to my sob story.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From dianefilipe at comcast.net  Sun Feb 17 00:58:48 2019
From: dianefilipe at comcast.net (dianefilipe at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 17:58:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>

Bridget, I couldn?t find the group on Facebook.
Diane

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Only a couple of people responded, but I created a Facebook group for blind diabetics. It's a closed group, which means anyone can join, but only members of the group can see posts within the group. If you wish to join, just search NFB Blind Diabetes Connect.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
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From diana56cook at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 04:30:41 2019
From: diana56cook at gmail.com (Diana Cook)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 22:30:41 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>
	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>

I could not find it either. Diana cook

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Diane via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bridget, I couldn?t find the group on Facebook.
> Diane
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Only a couple of people responded, but I created a Facebook group for blind diabetics. It's a closed group, which means anyone can join, but only members of the group can see posts within the group. If you wish to join, just search NFB Blind Diabetes Connect.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 04:45:21 2019
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 21:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>
	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>
	<D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to join.



From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 12:58:43 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 06:58:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>	<D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>
	<CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00dd01d4c6c0$836aebf0$8a40c3d0$@gmail.com>

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 17 23:19:38 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:19:38 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <00dd01d4c6c0$836aebf0$8a40c3d0$@gmail.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>	<D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>
	<00dd01d4c6c0$836aebf0$8a40c3d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018101d4c717$4175a030$c460e090$@gmail.com>

Jamie,

Side note, have you heard of the FB group Autistic Allies? I'm on that group
because my son is on the spectrum. It's great because we learn from actual
Autistic adults.

Anyway, I did post the link last night for the FB grouop I created. I can
post it again if I need too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Feb 18 05:12:09 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:12:09 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <018101d4c717$4175a030$c460e090$@gmail.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>	<D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>	<00dd01d4c6c0$836aebf0$8a40c3d0$@gmail.com>
	<018101d4c717$4175a030$c460e090$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901d4c748$7faec580$7f0c5080$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

The only groups I've been involved with on FB, someone in the group had to
join someone else. I have left most of the groups I joined because it was so
messy and so much work to follow. I sure don't want to have to write all of
this stuff twice. <grin> 
I love participating here because it's so simple to reply. <grin>
I didn't see a link go by yesterday. Maybe I missed it though.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 3:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Jamie,

Side note, have you heard of the FB group Autistic Allies? I'm on that group
because my son is on the spectrum. It's great because we learn from actual
Autistic adults.

Anyway, I did post the link last night for the FB grouop I created. I can
post it again if I need too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 12:40:54 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 06:40:54 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <018101d4c717$4175a030$c460e090$@gmail.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>	<D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>	<00dd01d4c6c0$836aebf0$8a40c3d0$@gmail.com>
	<018101d4c717$4175a030$c460e090$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003301d4c787$308f3130$91ad9390$@gmail.com>

Bridget,

     I haven't heard of that group.  My group was related to my former job
and was a great way for me to post monthly meeting announcements and other
activities and resources for families in my area.  My son was diagnosed with
Asperger's at age 7.  He was a challenging child, but he has grown in to an
amazing soon-to-be 21 year old.  He is a junior in college, still lives at
home with me and reminds me of a milder version of Sheldon.    He also has
low vision from retinopathy of prematurity, but he does very well for
himself.  

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Jamie,

Side note, have you heard of the FB group Autistic Allies? I'm on that group
because my son is on the spectrum. It's great because we learn from actual
Autistic adults.

Anyway, I did post the link last night for the FB grouop I created. I can
post it again if I need too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Mon Feb 18 15:50:51 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 10:50:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
In-Reply-To: <000901d4c748$7faec580$7f0c5080$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <01ab01d4c4d9$c45d1950$4d174bf0$@gmail.com>	<9FDA063B-2210-4216-9BD3-F4A1B336AA22@comcast.net>	<D44442F2-94DF-4DF6-9E44-D4C44EBDF739@gmail.com>	<CAOZMXTmdMD7rFcD9RdrNUU-u=3t5OisyTE6qhiREc2fXE4d1eg@mail.gmail.com>	<00dd01d4c6c0$836aebf0$8a40c3d0$@gmail.com><018101d4c717$4175a030$c460e090$@gmail.com>
	<000901d4c748$7faec580$7f0c5080$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <56855A5BC7A54122AE5B42F1BBA29BAE@eileen>

Veronica,

Ditto! I want to help a group for blind diabetics, but sorry won?t sign onto FB nor do I want to use it. I would even prefer something that would be set up on a blog that people could post to and the public could read.  

Eileen
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 12:12 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

The only groups I've been involved with on FB, someone in the group had to
join someone else. I have left most of the groups I joined because it was so
messy and so much work to follow. I sure don't want to have to write all of
this stuff twice. <grin> 
I love participating here because it's so simple to reply. <grin>
I didn't see a link go by yesterday. Maybe I missed it though.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 3:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Jamie,

Side note, have you heard of the FB group Autistic Allies? I'm on that group
because my son is on the spectrum. It's great because we learn from actual
Autistic adults.

Anyway, I did post the link last night for the FB grouop I created. I can
post it again if I need too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 17:26:53 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:26:53 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
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Jamie,

My son is only 6 but is on the spectrum. He was nonverbal for 3 years, in
addition to exhibiting other signs, but he's now totally verbal and has a
big vocabulary and talks all the time, but he has trouble communicating
emotions and thoughts and feelings. He's considered high functioning, but
he's definitely neuro divergent. I love him so much and wouldn't change
anything, because being ND is a part of who he is. But yes, it can be
challenging at times. He's stubborn, more so than a nero typical kid and can
have melt downs, which are exhausting when they happen. He's super bright
though and looks at the world with a really interesting perspective a lot of
the time.

Bridgit

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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Bridget,

     I haven't heard of that group.  My group was related to my former job
and was a great way for me to post monthly meeting announcements and other
activities and resources for families in my area.  My son was diagnosed with
Asperger's at age 7.  He was a challenging child, but he has grown in to an
amazing soon-to-be 21 year old.  He is a junior in college, still lives at
home with me and reminds me of a milder version of Sheldon.    He also has
low vision from retinopathy of prematurity, but he does very well for
himself.  

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Jamie,

Side note, have you heard of the FB group Autistic Allies? I'm on that group
because my son is on the spectrum. It's great because we learn from actual
Autistic adults.

Anyway, I did post the link last night for the FB grouop I created. I can
post it again if I need too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

				Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
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Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 17:38:46 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:38:46 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created
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An FB group is different than a personal page. Literally the only post you will see in an FB group is what the members post. So nothing political or unrelated to what the group is about, unless a member would post it, which admin would take down if inappropriate to the group. And FB works like a blog too and is accessible for blind people. The majority of NFB listserves have moved to FB groups, because it's a platform more people are comfortable with and used too. You can also create groups to be private, which I have done with the diabetes group, so when you request to join, admin has to approve you, and only members can post and see post in the group. The group is not secret, which is a different choice you can make a FB group, so anyone looking for it can find it, they just have to be approved to join and start posting. It's also easier to share articles and links directly to FB and Twitter sometimes too. And using a platform like FB makes it easier to find and reach out to other people, in this case blind diabetics, than the listserve, which, to be honest, is becoming an obsolete platform. The FB group will be here for whomever wants to use it, and in the event the listserve no longer serves a purpose, which most the listserves are. Here's the link again:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/334607213822794?refid=27

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Veronica,

Ditto! I want to help a group for blind diabetics, but sorry won?t sign onto FB nor do I want to use it. I would even prefer something that would be set up on a blog that people could post to and the public could read.  

Eileen
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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 12:12 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

The only groups I've been involved with on FB, someone in the group had to join someone else. I have left most of the groups I joined because it was so messy and so much work to follow. I sure don't want to have to write all of this stuff twice. <grin> I love participating here because it's so simple to reply. <grin> I didn't see a link go by yesterday. Maybe I missed it though.
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Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 3:20 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

Jamie,

Side note, have you heard of the FB group Autistic Allies? I'm on that group
because my son is on the spectrum. It's great because we learn from actual
Autistic adults.

Anyway, I did post the link last night for the FB grouop I created. I can
post it again if I need too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:59 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

I started a similar type Facebook group for the autism support group that I
facilitated every month.  No one could search and find it either.  I had the
link to join the group on all of the flyers that went out every month to the
schools that announced each meeting.  That was the only way I could acquire
new members.  We could never figure out why it was not searchable, since I
had very specific keywords associated with it.  

So, just post the link to the group on our mailing list.  Hopefully, we can
join by clicking on it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Doula
Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FB group created

  I had the same problem.  I did a search but couldn't find the group to
join.

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From diana56cook at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 20:36:19 2019
From: diana56cook at gmail.com (Diana Cook)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:36:19 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] =?utf-8?q?Traveling__I_am_traveling_now_after_no?=
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 18 22:59:34 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:59:34 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Traveling I am traveling now after not flying
	for several years' I go through pat down. I carry on extras
	of all things I might need in case luggage is lost. There was
	no problem with medical equipment. I carry glucose tablets in my
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There's nothing in this message.

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Traveling I am traveling now after not flying for
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 00:40:04 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 18:40:04 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Traveling I am traveling now after not flying
 forseveral years' I go through pat down. I carry on extras of all things I
 mightneed in case luggage is lost. There was no problem with medical
 equipment. Icarry glucose tablets in my
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It?s all in the subject line.

Sandi


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Traveling I am traveling now after not flying forseveral years' I go through pat down. I carry on extras of all things I mightneed in case luggage is lost. There was no problem with medical equipment. Icarry glucose tablets in my

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Feb 19 21:58:56 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:58:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
Message-ID: <AABB19139A4542809E3B125577C242AB@eileen>

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 22:39:30 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:39:30 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
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Eileen,

Medtronic has the 530G, which is now discontinued, the 630G and the 730G. The 630 and 730 are not the same as the 530G. As previously stated here several times, Medtronic gave people a deadline to upgrade to the 530G until October 26 of last year if they wanted to be covered by a warranty, because it had decided to discontinue the model. I think the reason it extended warranty on 530Gs until October was because several blind diabetics had no other options since Animas has stopped manufacturing. But after October, Medtronic would no longer provide a warranty of the 530G.

Because of those of us who met the October deadline, we are under warranty, and of course, Medtronic has to keep so many 530Gs in stock now so if we need a replacement, one is available. It doesn't surprise me that it's now difficult to get a 530G. There were 2 different options last fall, one being the pump exchange for Animas users, but most were switching to 630 and 730Gs. Even though I had an Animas, I was not a part of the exchange. My endo sent a letter to Medicare and Medtronic, explaining why I needed to upgrade by October, so approval was given for me to do so. So, if you were either ready for an upgrade under warranty, or if you needed to switch for some reason, you were able to still get the 530G by October 26. My understanding is that any 530Gs left in stock are now for those of us under warranty. Anyone wanting to upgrade now has to choose between the 630 and 730G. But these models are not the same as the 530G.

So you have it, my model number is:
Serial num: pcr806284h
MMT751

Bridgit
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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen




From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb 20 00:25:29 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 19:25:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
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Bridget,

Thanks for letting me know your model number. Apparently it is not only you who got the 530G pump because of your ?special? situation. . It was only a week or 2 ago on this list Verlyn posted about having just received his brand-spanking new Medtronics pump 530G. I believe he was also a Medtronics pump user who was allowed to upgrade even after Medtronics discontinued the pump. And I don?t begrudge him the pump I?m glad that he is able to get one and use it with the all-important protection of having warrantee coverage on it.

Yes, I am too in a special situation because I am a Medtronic?s pump user for many years now and the only pump I can use is the Medtronics 530G which the manufacturer promised me last October I would be upgraded to once my pump was out of the warrantee which it is. I do not want to go back on insulin injections and back to bad diabetic control. I am well aware the the 630G is the pump still on the market, but totally inaccessible to a blind person.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 5:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Eileen,

Medtronic has the 530G, which is now discontinued, the 630G and the 730G. The 630 and 730 are not the same as the 530G. As previously stated here several times, Medtronic gave people a deadline to upgrade to the 530G until October 26 of last year if they wanted to be covered by a warranty, because it had decided to discontinue the model. I think the reason it extended warranty on 530Gs until October was because several blind diabetics had no other options since Animas has stopped manufacturing. But after October, Medtronic would no longer provide a warranty of the 530G.

Because of those of us who met the October deadline, we are under warranty, and of course, Medtronic has to keep so many 530Gs in stock now so if we need a replacement, one is available. It doesn't surprise me that it's now difficult to get a 530G. There were 2 different options last fall, one being the pump exchange for Animas users, but most were switching to 630 and 730Gs. Even though I had an Animas, I was not a part of the exchange. My endo sent a letter to Medicare and Medtronic, explaining why I needed to upgrade by October, so approval was given for me to do so. So, if you were either ready for an upgrade under warranty, or if you needed to switch for some reason, you were able to still get the 530G by October 26. My understanding is that any 530Gs left in stock are now for those of us under warranty. Anyone wanting to upgrade now has to choose between the 630 and 730G. But these models are not the same as the 530G.

So you have it, my model number is:
Serial num: pcr806284h
MMT751

Bridgit
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:59 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 00:29:42 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:29:42 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
In-Reply-To: <304EA2C5EB41475AABED730E99A0923B@eileen>
References: <AABB19139A4542809E3B125577C242AB@eileen>	<04a801d4c8a3$fabf9130$f03eb390$@gmail.com>
	<304EA2C5EB41475AABED730E99A0923B@eileen>
Message-ID: <04d601d4c8b3$60431fe0$20c95fa0$@gmail.com>

I hope you can get a 530G. I also hate to go back to injections. We have 4 years to figure something out.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 6:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Bridget,

Thanks for letting me know your model number. Apparently it is not only you who got the 530G pump because of your ?special? situation. . It was only a week or 2 ago on this list Verlyn posted about having just received his brand-spanking new Medtronics pump 530G. I believe he was also a Medtronics pump user who was allowed to upgrade even after Medtronics discontinued the pump. And I don?t begrudge him the pump I?m glad that he is able to get one and use it with the all-important protection of having warrantee coverage on it.

Yes, I am too in a special situation because I am a Medtronic?s pump user for many years now and the only pump I can use is the Medtronics 530G which the manufacturer promised me last October I would be upgraded to once my pump was out of the warrantee which it is. I do not want to go back on insulin injections and back to bad diabetic control. I am well aware the the 630G is the pump still on the market, but totally inaccessible to a blind person.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 5:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Eileen,

Medtronic has the 530G, which is now discontinued, the 630G and the 730G. The 630 and 730 are not the same as the 530G. As previously stated here several times, Medtronic gave people a deadline to upgrade to the 530G until October 26 of last year if they wanted to be covered by a warranty, because it had decided to discontinue the model. I think the reason it extended warranty on 530Gs until October was because several blind diabetics had no other options since Animas has stopped manufacturing. But after October, Medtronic would no longer provide a warranty of the 530G.

Because of those of us who met the October deadline, we are under warranty, and of course, Medtronic has to keep so many 530Gs in stock now so if we need a replacement, one is available. It doesn't surprise me that it's now difficult to get a 530G. There were 2 different options last fall, one being the pump exchange for Animas users, but most were switching to 630 and 730Gs. Even though I had an Animas, I was not a part of the exchange. My endo sent a letter to Medicare and Medtronic, explaining why I needed to upgrade by October, so approval was given for me to do so. So, if you were either ready for an upgrade under warranty, or if you needed to switch for some reason, you were able to still get the 530G by October 26. My understanding is that any 530Gs left in stock are now for those of us under warranty. Anyone wanting to upgrade now has to choose between the 630 and 730G. But these models are not the same as the 530G.

So you have it, my model number is:
Serial num: pcr806284h
MMT751

Bridgit
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:59 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb 20 00:54:23 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:54:23 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
In-Reply-To: <04d601d4c8b3$60431fe0$20c95fa0$@gmail.com>
References: <AABB19139A4542809E3B125577C242AB@eileen>	<04a801d4c8a3$fabf9130$f03eb390$@gmail.com>	<304EA2C5EB41475AABED730E99A0923B@eileen>
	<04d601d4c8b3$60431fe0$20c95fa0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001401d4c8b6$d1fb56e0$75f204a0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

And of course, because nothing means what it says it does, there's a new notice out for Animas users who didn't bother to upgrade last year. Yes boys and girls, Animas users can now switch to any Medtronic pump of their choice for free. Anyone using the Animas Vibe along with the Dexcom can now get a free box of Medtronic sensors too. 
Of course, when 630G users signed up for a free upgrade to the 730G, it turned out that the upgrade cost $299. And oh, you could get that $299 back if you wrote a testimonial to how great Medtronic was for use on their web site. I never believe anything this company says. 
The 530G originally actually came with an iPhone app where we could have read some status items. We couldn't actually do anything from the app, but could have read a few things. However, they have discontinued that now and won't allow anything like that. 
So Eileen, have no shame in shoving them around and making them do what you want to do.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 4:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

I hope you can get a 530G. I also hate to go back to injections. We have 4 years to figure something out.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 6:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Bridget,

Thanks for letting me know your model number. Apparently it is not only you who got the 530G pump because of your ?special? situation. . It was only a week or 2 ago on this list Verlyn posted about having just received his brand-spanking new Medtronics pump 530G. I believe he was also a Medtronics pump user who was allowed to upgrade even after Medtronics discontinued the pump. And I don?t begrudge him the pump I?m glad that he is able to get one and use it with the all-important protection of having warrantee coverage on it.

Yes, I am too in a special situation because I am a Medtronic?s pump user for many years now and the only pump I can use is the Medtronics 530G which the manufacturer promised me last October I would be upgraded to once my pump was out of the warrantee which it is. I do not want to go back on insulin injections and back to bad diabetic control. I am well aware the the 630G is the pump still on the market, but totally inaccessible to a blind person.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 5:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Eileen,

Medtronic has the 530G, which is now discontinued, the 630G and the 730G. The 630 and 730 are not the same as the 530G. As previously stated here several times, Medtronic gave people a deadline to upgrade to the 530G until October 26 of last year if they wanted to be covered by a warranty, because it had decided to discontinue the model. I think the reason it extended warranty on 530Gs until October was because several blind diabetics had no other options since Animas has stopped manufacturing. But after October, Medtronic would no longer provide a warranty of the 530G.

Because of those of us who met the October deadline, we are under warranty, and of course, Medtronic has to keep so many 530Gs in stock now so if we need a replacement, one is available. It doesn't surprise me that it's now difficult to get a 530G. There were 2 different options last fall, one being the pump exchange for Animas users, but most were switching to 630 and 730Gs. Even though I had an Animas, I was not a part of the exchange. My endo sent a letter to Medicare and Medtronic, explaining why I needed to upgrade by October, so approval was given for me to do so. So, if you were either ready for an upgrade under warranty, or if you needed to switch for some reason, you were able to still get the 530G by October 26. My understanding is that any 530Gs left in stock are now for those of us under warranty. Anyone wanting to upgrade now has to choose between the 630 and 730G. But these models are not the same as the 530G.

So you have it, my model number is:
Serial num: pcr806284h
MMT751

Bridgit
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:59 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen


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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Feb 20 14:53:48 2019
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
In-Reply-To: <001401d4c8b6$d1fb56e0$75f204a0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <AABB19139A4542809E3B125577C242AB@eileen>	<04a801d4c8a3$fabf9130$f03eb390$@gmail.com>	<304EA2C5EB41475AABED730E99A0923B@eileen><04d601d4c8b3$60431fe0$20c95fa0$@gmail.com>
	<001401d4c8b6$d1fb56e0$75f204a0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <CFF7D3A0C1F5445CA88B4A91383118EC@eileen>

Hi Veronica,

If I only could make them do what I want them to do it would be a very different situation for any of us on this list who both need & want to use their 530G model pump. And, its not that I am trying to shove or push Medtronics around making them give me what I want like a spoiled child, I am just trying to hold them to their words and make them follow through with what they promised to me last fall.

Just to make sure people on this list are aware that the warrantee coverage that comes with all these pumps is invaluable to the pump user. Insulin pumps can & do break down, get dropped and can crack or break. Yes, sometimes they have things that go wrong with their workings ? they are machines with moving parts just like a car with an engine & motor. For those of us who are blind and there are at this point in time no other useable pump out there for us to switch to, should a persons pump break that does not have warrantee coverage the pump user I am pretty certain would be out of luck. I don?t even know for certain if a pump that did not have coverage through a warrantee could be repaired how much it would cost and would the user of that pump be caught off guard with some huge repair bill. That part is not clear to me.

Anyway, I?m not just stamping my feet saying I want a new pump. I want a pump that has an in-effect warrantee with it and like I already said, I do not want to go back on multiple daily injections.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 7:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

And of course, because nothing means what it says it does, there's a new notice out for Animas users who didn't bother to upgrade last year. Yes boys and girls, Animas users can now switch to any Medtronic pump of their choice for free. Anyone using the Animas Vibe along with the Dexcom can now get a free box of Medtronic sensors too. 
Of course, when 630G users signed up for a free upgrade to the 730G, it turned out that the upgrade cost $299. And oh, you could get that $299 back if you wrote a testimonial to how great Medtronic was for use on their web site. I never believe anything this company says. 
The 530G originally actually came with an iPhone app where we could have read some status items. We couldn't actually do anything from the app, but could have read a few things. However, they have discontinued that now and won't allow anything like that. 
So Eileen, have no shame in shoving them around and making them do what you want to do.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 4:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

I hope you can get a 530G. I also hate to go back to injections. We have 4 years to figure something out.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 6:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Bridget,

Thanks for letting me know your model number. Apparently it is not only you who got the 530G pump because of your ?special? situation. . It was only a week or 2 ago on this list Verlyn posted about having just received his brand-spanking new Medtronics pump 530G. I believe he was also a Medtronics pump user who was allowed to upgrade even after Medtronics discontinued the pump. And I don?t begrudge him the pump I?m glad that he is able to get one and use it with the all-important protection of having warrantee coverage on it.

Yes, I am too in a special situation because I am a Medtronic?s pump user for many years now and the only pump I can use is the Medtronics 530G which the manufacturer promised me last October I would be upgraded to once my pump was out of the warrantee which it is. I do not want to go back on insulin injections and back to bad diabetic control. I am well aware the the 630G is the pump still on the market, but totally inaccessible to a blind person.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 5:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Eileen,

Medtronic has the 530G, which is now discontinued, the 630G and the 730G. The 630 and 730 are not the same as the 530G. As previously stated here several times, Medtronic gave people a deadline to upgrade to the 530G until October 26 of last year if they wanted to be covered by a warranty, because it had decided to discontinue the model. I think the reason it extended warranty on 530Gs until October was because several blind diabetics had no other options since Animas has stopped manufacturing. But after October, Medtronic would no longer provide a warranty of the 530G.

Because of those of us who met the October deadline, we are under warranty, and of course, Medtronic has to keep so many 530Gs in stock now so if we need a replacement, one is available. It doesn't surprise me that it's now difficult to get a 530G. There were 2 different options last fall, one being the pump exchange for Animas users, but most were switching to 630 and 730Gs. Even though I had an Animas, I was not a part of the exchange. My endo sent a letter to Medicare and Medtronic, explaining why I needed to upgrade by October, so approval was given for me to do so. So, if you were either ready for an upgrade under warranty, or if you needed to switch for some reason, you were able to still get the 530G by October 26. My understanding is that any 530Gs left in stock are now for those of us under warranty. Anyone wanting to upgrade now has to choose between the 630 and 730G. But these models are not the same as the 530G.

So you have it, my model number is:
Serial num: pcr806284h
MMT751

Bridgit
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:59 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Feb 20 19:28:10 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:28:10 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.
In-Reply-To: <CFF7D3A0C1F5445CA88B4A91383118EC@eileen>
References: <AABB19139A4542809E3B125577C242AB@eileen>	<04a801d4c8a3$fabf9130$f03eb390$@gmail.com>	<304EA2C5EB41475AABED730E99A0923B@eileen><04d601d4c8b3$60431fe0$20c95fa0$@gmail.com>	<001401d4c8b6$d1fb56e0$75f204a0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<CFF7D3A0C1F5445CA88B4A91383118EC@eileen>
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Oh Eileen, sometimes I think it is time to stamp our feet and demand. These companies just don't seem to have any investment in the success of their clients any more. Medtronic has told so many lies and done so many ridiculous things that it really is time to insist and do it loudly. I agree with you that establishing good relationships is important and I too try to behave like an adult. <grin> But you've been a long-time pump user with them and treating you this way is just not okay, in my book. 
They need shoving around, they really do. Keep us posted.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 6:54 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi Veronica,

If I only could make them do what I want them to do it would be a very different situation for any of us on this list who both need & want to use their 530G model pump. And, its not that I am trying to shove or push Medtronics around making them give me what I want like a spoiled child, I am just trying to hold them to their words and make them follow through with what they promised to me last fall.

Just to make sure people on this list are aware that the warrantee coverage that comes with all these pumps is invaluable to the pump user. Insulin pumps can & do break down, get dropped and can crack or break. Yes, sometimes they have things that go wrong with their workings ? they are machines with moving parts just like a car with an engine & motor. For those of us who are blind and there are at this point in time no other useable pump out there for us to switch to, should a persons pump break that does not have warrantee coverage the pump user I am pretty certain would be out of luck. I don?t even know for certain if a pump that did not have coverage through a warrantee could be repaired how much it would cost and would the user of that pump be caught off guard with some huge repair bill. That part is not clear to me.

Anyway, I?m not just stamping my feet saying I want a new pump. I want a pump that has an in-effect warrantee with it and like I already said, I do not want to go back on multiple daily injections.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 7:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

And of course, because nothing means what it says it does, there's a new notice out for Animas users who didn't bother to upgrade last year. Yes boys and girls, Animas users can now switch to any Medtronic pump of their choice for free. Anyone using the Animas Vibe along with the Dexcom can now get a free box of Medtronic sensors too. 
Of course, when 630G users signed up for a free upgrade to the 730G, it turned out that the upgrade cost $299. And oh, you could get that $299 back if you wrote a testimonial to how great Medtronic was for use on their web site. I never believe anything this company says. 
The 530G originally actually came with an iPhone app where we could have read some status items. We couldn't actually do anything from the app, but could have read a few things. However, they have discontinued that now and won't allow anything like that. 
So Eileen, have no shame in shoving them around and making them do what you want to do.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 4:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

I hope you can get a 530G. I also hate to go back to injections. We have 4 years to figure something out.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 6:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Bridget,

Thanks for letting me know your model number. Apparently it is not only you who got the 530G pump because of your ?special? situation. . It was only a week or 2 ago on this list Verlyn posted about having just received his brand-spanking new Medtronics pump 530G. I believe he was also a Medtronics pump user who was allowed to upgrade even after Medtronics discontinued the pump. And I don?t begrudge him the pump I?m glad that he is able to get one and use it with the all-important protection of having warrantee coverage on it.

Yes, I am too in a special situation because I am a Medtronic?s pump user for many years now and the only pump I can use is the Medtronics 530G which the manufacturer promised me last October I would be upgraded to once my pump was out of the warrantee which it is. I do not want to go back on insulin injections and back to bad diabetic control. I am well aware the the 630G is the pump still on the market, but totally inaccessible to a blind person.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 5:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Eileen,

Medtronic has the 530G, which is now discontinued, the 630G and the 730G. The 630 and 730 are not the same as the 530G. As previously stated here several times, Medtronic gave people a deadline to upgrade to the 530G until October 26 of last year if they wanted to be covered by a warranty, because it had decided to discontinue the model. I think the reason it extended warranty on 530Gs until October was because several blind diabetics had no other options since Animas has stopped manufacturing. But after October, Medtronic would no longer provide a warranty of the 530G.

Because of those of us who met the October deadline, we are under warranty, and of course, Medtronic has to keep so many 530Gs in stock now so if we need a replacement, one is available. It doesn't surprise me that it's now difficult to get a 530G. There were 2 different options last fall, one being the pump exchange for Animas users, but most were switching to 630 and 730Gs. Even though I had an Animas, I was not a part of the exchange. My endo sent a letter to Medicare and Medtronic, explaining why I needed to upgrade by October, so approval was given for me to do so. So, if you were either ready for an upgrade under warranty, or if you needed to switch for some reason, you were able to still get the 530G by October 26. My understanding is that any 530Gs left in stock are now for those of us under warranty. Anyone wanting to upgrade now has to choose between the 630 and 730G. But these models are not the same as the 530G.

So you have it, my model number is:
Serial num: pcr806284h
MMT751

Bridgit
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:59 PM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] A Question About Model of Medtronic 530G Pump.

Hi All,

I am still working with medtronic & my supply company in trying to upgrade my pump. I am being told now, by the supplier, that Medicare will not let me, under Medicare, upgrade to the Medtronic 530G insulin pump. I found this hard to believe so called Medicare earlier today. The Medicare rep specified nothing about not covering the 530G pump.

Anyway, I think this is my supply company pushing the Revel pump on me because they don?t have the 530G in their inventory (only my guestimation). They are telling me that the model 723 is the exact same thing as the 530G pump. The pump I have now is a Medtronic Paradigm Revel model 723 and I think that they are trying to sell me the exact same model as I am currently using. If there is no longer a way to get a 530G I would settle for the same pump I have now so long as it has the 5 year warrantee. However, if there are still 530G?s floating around and I believe there are because they still need to replace pumps that break down, then I want to upgrade to a better, more up-to-date pump to move onto. Besides Medtronic?s promised me last fall that is what I?d be moved onto when my existing pump was ready for upgrading.

So do any of you using the 530G know your model number? Can you please let me know what the model number is?  
My current pump is a paradigm Revel 723, so far as I have known these past 5 years it is not a 530G pump. I?d just like to know if anyone who knows they have a 530G knows their model number. Thanks so much for any help with finding this out. I feel like I?m getting a major run-around.

Eileen


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From dmgina at mysero.net  Fri Feb 22 22:36:39 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:36:39 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>

Now what a funny title rite/
I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
the bathroom.
Because you don't know how clean it is.
I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is 
with you.
Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
with out anyone noticing.
Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex 
com myself.
Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
price still have to be the same.
I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
feel I had one to many to drink.
But don't know what the drink was smile.
I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
anything mixed up.
Then transfer over.
Also does one have to worry about the sun?
I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the 
sun to long.
Thanks for reading.

-- 
--Dar
skype: dmgina23
  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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every sinner has a future



From amber.wallens at gmail.com  Fri Feb 22 23:34:02 2019
From: amber.wallens at gmail.com (Amber Wallenstein)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:34:02 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>
References: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <2F3FE138-5655-4A25-9400-889D99612AF7@gmail.com>

When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
Amber

> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Now what a funny title rite/
> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the bathroom.
> Because you don't know how clean it is.
> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with you.
> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out anyone noticing.
> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com myself.
> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price still have to be the same.
> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I had one to many to drink.
> But don't know what the drink was smile.
> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything mixed up.
> Then transfer over.
> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun to long.
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> -- 
> --Dar
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> FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 00:45:16 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:45:16 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>
References: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <009901d4cb11$0c223d00$2466b700$@gmail.com>

Hi,
I never inject my insulin pen in a public restroom.  Always at the table.  I
just lean forward a little bit and inject quickly   and no one notices.
The sun does not affect insulin but, Insulin pen cannot be in 80 degrees
temperature or more unless in a purse.  In the summer I always keep a
chilled 8 ounce bottle of water in my purse to keep it cool. 
The cash price of the Dexcom G6 sensors is $299 per month for the one month
supply and the transmitter is good for 3 months is about $275, I don't
exactly remember.  You can call them at 877.449.2664 and ask for information
about the cash price with continuing reordering.  Hopefully, in April the
Dexcom G6 will start to be covered by Medicare but, I am not betting the
farm on this rumor.

The Dexcom G5 is covered by Medicare now.
Warmly, Joy


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m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:37 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Now what a funny title rite/
I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the
bathroom.
Because you don't know how clean it is.
I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with
you.
Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out
anyone noticing.
Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com
myself.
Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price
still have to be the same.
I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I
had one to many to drink.
But don't know what the drink was smile.
I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything
mixed up.
Then transfer over.
Also does one have to worry about the sun?
I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun
to long.
Thanks for reading.

--
--Dar
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 00:44:38 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:44:38 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <2F3FE138-5655-4A25-9400-889D99612AF7@gmail.com>
References: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>
	<2F3FE138-5655-4A25-9400-889D99612AF7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0a4c01d4cb10$f520f4c0$df62de40$@gmail.com>

First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
Amber

> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Now what a funny title rite/
> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the bathroom.
> Because you don't know how clean it is.
> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with you.
> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out anyone noticing.
> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com myself.
> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price still have to be the same.
> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I had one to many to drink.
> But don't know what the drink was smile.
> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything mixed up.
> Then transfer over.
> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun to long.
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> -- 
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
> FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 00:45:35 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:45:35 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <009901d4cb11$0c223d00$2466b700$@gmail.com>
References: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>
	<009901d4cb11$0c223d00$2466b700$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0a5401d4cb11$1700adb0$45020910$@gmail.com>

Joy,

The G6 is covered by Medicare.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joy
Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Hi,
I never inject my insulin pen in a public restroom.  Always at the table.  I
just lean forward a little bit and inject quickly   and no one notices.
The sun does not affect insulin but, Insulin pen cannot be in 80 degrees
temperature or more unless in a purse.  In the summer I always keep a
chilled 8 ounce bottle of water in my purse to keep it cool. 
The cash price of the Dexcom G6 sensors is $299 per month for the one month
supply and the transmitter is good for 3 months is about $275, I don't
exactly remember.  You can call them at 877.449.2664 and ask for information
about the cash price with continuing reordering.  Hopefully, in April the
Dexcom G6 will start to be covered by Medicare but, I am not betting the
farm on this rumor.

The Dexcom G5 is covered by Medicare now.
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:37 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Now what a funny title rite/
I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the
bathroom.
Because you don't know how clean it is.
I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with
you.
Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out
anyone noticing.
Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com
myself.
Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price
still have to be the same.
I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I
had one to many to drink.
But don't know what the drink was smile.
I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything
mixed up.
Then transfer over.
Also does one have to worry about the sun?
I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun
to long.
Thanks for reading.

--
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 00:59:18 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:59:18 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <0a5401d4cb11$1700adb0$45020910$@gmail.com>
References: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>	<009901d4cb11$0c223d00$2466b700$@gmail.com>
	<0a5401d4cb11$1700adb0$45020910$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009f01d4cb13$01981bf0$04c853d0$@gmail.com>

Hi Bridgit,
Medicare does not cover the Dexcom G6.
What you are thinking is that if you have Medicare Advantage through another
provider, then they will cover the cost and take liability.
Also, the 70/30 that Dar was referring to is an insulin that is 70% quick
acting and 30% slower acting.
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 4:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Joy,

The G6 is covered by Medicare.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joy
Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Hi,
I never inject my insulin pen in a public restroom.  Always at the table.  I
just lean forward a little bit and inject quickly   and no one notices.
The sun does not affect insulin but, Insulin pen cannot be in 80 degrees
temperature or more unless in a purse.  In the summer I always keep a
chilled 8 ounce bottle of water in my purse to keep it cool. 
The cash price of the Dexcom G6 sensors is $299 per month for the one month
supply and the transmitter is good for 3 months is about $275, I don't
exactly remember.  You can call them at 877.449.2664 and ask for information
about the cash price with continuing reordering.  Hopefully, in April the
Dexcom G6 will start to be covered by Medicare but, I am not betting the
farm on this rumor.

The Dexcom G5 is covered by Medicare now.
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:37 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Now what a funny title rite/
I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the
bathroom.
Because you don't know how clean it is.
I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with
you.
Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out
anyone noticing.
Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com
myself.
Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price
still have to be the same.
I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I
had one to many to drink.
But don't know what the drink was smile.
I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything
mixed up.
Then transfer over.
Also does one have to worry about the sun?
I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun
to long.
Thanks for reading.

--
--Dar
skype: dmgina23
  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 01:06:15 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:06:15 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <0a5401d4cb11$1700adb0$45020910$@gmail.com>
References: <9308618a.5f0e.4d59.a481.6afebb4d8180@samobile.net>	<009901d4cb11$0c223d00$2466b700$@gmail.com>
	<0a5401d4cb11$1700adb0$45020910$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a001d4cb13$fa2f7ba0$ee8e72e0$@gmail.com>

Hi Bridgit,
Regular Medicare is not covering the Dexcom G6, yet.
If you have Medicare Advantage through another provider, they will cover the
cost and take liability.

The 70/30 Insulin that Dar was referring to is an insulin which is 70% quick
acting and 30% slower acting.

Warmly, Joy
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 4:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Joy,

The G6 is covered by Medicare.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Joy
Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Hi,
I never inject my insulin pen in a public restroom.  Always at the table.  I
just lean forward a little bit and inject quickly   and no one notices.
The sun does not affect insulin but, Insulin pen cannot be in 80 degrees
temperature or more unless in a purse.  In the summer I always keep a
chilled 8 ounce bottle of water in my purse to keep it cool. 
The cash price of the Dexcom G6 sensors is $299 per month for the one month
supply and the transmitter is good for 3 months is about $275, I don't
exactly remember.  You can call them at 877.449.2664 and ask for information
about the cash price with continuing reordering.  Hopefully, in April the
Dexcom G6 will start to be covered by Medicare but, I am not betting the
farm on this rumor.

The Dexcom G5 is covered by Medicare now.
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:37 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Now what a funny title rite/
I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the
bathroom.
Because you don't know how clean it is.
I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with
you.
Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out
anyone noticing.
Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com
myself.
Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price
still have to be the same.
I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I
had one to many to drink.
But don't know what the drink was smile.
I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything
mixed up.
Then transfer over.
Also does one have to worry about the sun?
I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun
to long.
Thanks for reading.

--
--Dar
skype: dmgina23
  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb 23 02:22:59 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:22:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <eec5c3d7.2cbe.4897.93e2.4411018eda3f@samobile.net>

Thanks,
many times I wear long dresses.

Original message:
> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
> Amber

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Now what a funny title rite/
>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>> the bathroom.
>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is 
>> with you.
>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>> with out anyone noticing.
>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex 
>> com myself.
>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>> price still have to be the same.
>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>> anything mixed up.
>> Then transfer over.
>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the 
>> sun to long.
>> Thanks for reading.

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

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every sinner has a future

From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 02:44:02 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:44:02 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <eec5c3d7.2cbe.4897.93e2.4411018eda3f@samobile.net>
References: <eec5c3d7.2cbe.4897.93e2.4411018eda3f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <0a7801d4cb21$a3832ff0$ea898fd0$@gmail.com>

You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, I've injected through my clothes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks,
many times I wear long dresses.

Original message:
> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
> Amber

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Now what a funny title rite/
>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>> the bathroom.
>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>> is with you.
>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>> with out anyone noticing.
>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>> dex com myself.
>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>> price still have to be the same.
>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>> anything mixed up.
>> Then transfer over.
>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>> the sun to long.
>> Thanks for reading.

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

>> _______________________________________________
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From fidano at comcast.net  Sat Feb 23 04:00:23 2019
From: fidano at comcast.net (Tamera)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:00:23 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <0a7801d4cb21$a3832ff0$ea898fd0$@gmail.com>
References: <eec5c3d7.2cbe.4897.93e2.4411018eda3f@samobile.net>
	<0a7801d4cb21$a3832ff0$ea898fd0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002501d4cb2c$4da3b180$e8eb1480$@comcast.net>

Pens are the greatest! My doc recently told me to shot through my clothes!
I agree, the thinner the material one feels more inclined.. and have not used alcohol wipes in  decades.
Only issue with thighs are if your thin and muscular... sometimes the insulin does not settle and absorb as well.
	Tamera

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:44 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, I've injected through my clothes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks,
many times I wear long dresses.

Original message:
> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
> Amber

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Now what a funny title rite/
>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>> the bathroom.
>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>> is with you.
>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>> with out anyone noticing.
>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>> dex com myself.
>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>> price still have to be the same.
>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>> anything mixed up.
>> Then transfer over.
>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>> the sun to long.
>> Thanks for reading.

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

>> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb 23 12:14:42 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 07:14:42 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <c48565de.bab6.4a12.8313.87e816ba1b56@samobile.net>

I would have to get someone to explain to me what you just said leaving 
the cap on and injecting.
Sorry about the pen to pin.
Never did get that straight loll.
One you write with and the other you are using.
Yes I see my doctor in April so I can work on finishing what I have.
Then move forward.
Yes I am a private person, this is why I asked question while out.

Original message:
> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an 
> estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250 
> a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know some 
> people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their insurance, 
> but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why pay out of 
> pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to cover 
> Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some people 
> prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set anything 
> down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just pull it 
> out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle cap on 
> when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, you have 
> no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a needle on 
> beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It was a little 
> different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. For me, I found 
> it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
> Amber

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Now what a funny title rite/
>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>> the bathroom.
>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is 
>> with you.
>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>> with out anyone noticing.
>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex 
>> com myself.
>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>> price still have to be the same.
>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>> anything mixed up.
>> Then transfer over.
>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the 
>> sun to long.
>> Thanks for reading.

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb 23 12:21:24 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 07:21:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <d2ad14aa.027e.40ea.bec2.dbe8c6cf7c0f@samobile.net>

Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
I also would not want my clothes stained.
I learn so much from the list.
The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my 
shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, 
you must eat rite away.
I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
problem happens.

Original message:
> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be 
> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, 
> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, I've 
> injected through my clothes.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Thanks,
> many times I wear long dresses.

> Original message:
>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>> is with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>> dex com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the
>>> price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>> the sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future

>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.wall
>>> ens%40gmail.com

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> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
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--Dar
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

From pgill6 at aol.com  Sat Feb 23 14:31:07 2019
From: pgill6 at aol.com (Pat Gill)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:31:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor
In-Reply-To: <d2ad14aa.027e.40ea.bec2.dbe8c6cf7c0f@samobile.net>
References: <d2ad14aa.027e.40ea.bec2.dbe8c6cf7c0f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <A01519DB-395F-4399-9FB0-2D16B3341D3F@aol.com>


What is the most accessible and accurate talking glucose monitor for a totally blind person available in the U.S?  Thank you for your input 
Pat


> On Feb 23, 2019, at 7:21 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
> I also would not want my clothes stained.
> I learn so much from the list.
> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, you must eat rite away.
> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another problem happens.
> 
> Original message:
>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, I've injected through my clothes.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
> 
>> Thanks,
>> many times I wear long dresses.
> 
>> Original message:
>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber
> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in
>>>> the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the
>>>> price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to
>>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.
> 
>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.wall
>>>> ens%40gmail.com
> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> sero.net
> 
>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>  FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bkpollpeter%40gmail.com
> 
> 
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> 
> -- 
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
> FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 14:45:46 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:45:46 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <c48565de.bab6.4a12.8313.87e816ba1b56@samobile.net>
References: <c48565de.bab6.4a12.8313.87e816ba1b56@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <0ab201d4cb86$76828b30$6387a190$@gmail.com>

With insulin pens, you attach the needle every time you inject. It looks like a little elf hat or cone shape. You screw it on and pull off the cap, exposing the needle. When done, you put the cap back on, unscrew the entire thing and dispose of.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:15 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

I would have to get someone to explain to me what you just said leaving the cap on and injecting.
Sorry about the pen to pin.
Never did get that straight loll.
One you write with and the other you are using.
Yes I see my doctor in April so I can work on finishing what I have.
Then move forward.
Yes I am a private person, this is why I asked question while out.

Original message:
> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an 
> estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250 
> a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know 
> some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their 
> insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why 
> pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to 
> cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set 
> anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just 
> pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle 
> cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, 
> you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a 
> needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It 
> was a little different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. 
> For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
> Amber

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Now what a funny title rite/
>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>> the bathroom.
>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>> is with you.
>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>> with out anyone noticing.
>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>> dex com myself.
>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>> price still have to be the same.
>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>> anything mixed up.
>> Then transfer over.
>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>> the sun to long.
>> Thanks for reading.

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future

>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.wall
>> ens%40gmail.com

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 14:46:22 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:46:22 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <d2ad14aa.027e.40ea.bec2.dbe8c6cf7c0f@samobile.net>
References: <d2ad14aa.027e.40ea.bec2.dbe8c6cf7c0f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <0ab301d4cb86$8b97bae0$a2c730a0$@gmail.com>

Insulin is clear and does not stain.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
I also would not want my clothes stained.
I learn so much from the list.
The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, you must eat rite away.
I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another problem happens.

Original message:
> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be 
> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, 
> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, 
> I've injected through my clothes.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Thanks,
> many times I wear long dresses.

> Original message:
>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>> is with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>> dex com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>> the sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 14:47:27 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:47:27 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor
In-Reply-To: <A01519DB-395F-4399-9FB0-2D16B3341D3F@aol.com>
References: <d2ad14aa.027e.40ea.bec2.dbe8c6cf7c0f@samobile.net>
	<A01519DB-395F-4399-9FB0-2D16B3341D3F@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0ab401d4cb86$b2c92590$185b70b0$@gmail.com>

The Prodigy Voice or Clever Choice. With Prodigy, it needs to be the Voice and not the Autocode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pat Gill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:31 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Pat Gill <pgill6 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor


What is the most accessible and accurate talking glucose monitor for a totally blind person available in the U.S?  Thank you for your input Pat


> On Feb 23, 2019, at 7:21 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
> I also would not want my clothes stained.
> I learn so much from the list.
> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, you must eat rite away.
> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another problem happens.
> 
> Original message:
>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, I've injected through my clothes.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
> 
>> Thanks,
>> many times I wear long dresses.
> 
>> Original message:
>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber
> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in
>>>> the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the
>>>> price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to
>>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.
> 
>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
> 
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> 
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> 
>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>  FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
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> 
> 
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> 
> -- 
> --Dar
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> FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb 23 16:08:46 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:08:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <00707fea.73a3.4086.a1cd.fa42ed9902c0@samobile.net>

Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
I was always told they wouldn't.
Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

Original message:
> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
> I also would not want my clothes stained.
> I learn so much from the list.
> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my 
> shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, 
> you must eat rite away.
> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
> problem happens.

> Original message:
>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be
>> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected
>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public,
>> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick,
>> I've injected through my clothes.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks,
>> many times I wear long dresses.

>> Original message:
>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in
>>>> the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would
>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to
>>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.wal
>>>> l
>>>> ens%40gmail.com

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>>> y
>>> sero.net

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
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> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> every sinner has a future
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Sat Feb 23 16:10:29 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:10:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor
Message-ID: <79b13f18.6195.4f83.9b5c.29ce38ef0b8e@samobile.net>

What is clever choice, and are the strips hard to get?
Does it have an ear phone jack?

Original message:
> The Prodigy Voice or Clever Choice. With Prodigy, it needs to be the 
> Voice and not the Autocode.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pat 
> Gill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:31 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Pat Gill <pgill6 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor


> What is the most accessible and accurate talking glucose monitor for a 
> totally blind person available in the U.S?  Thank you for your input Pat


>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 7:21 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>> I learn so much from the list.
>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my 
>> shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, 
>> you must eat rite away.
>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
>> problem happens.

>> Original message:
>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be 
>>> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, 
>>> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, I've 
>>> injected through my clothes.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
>>> gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks,
>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in
>>>>> the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>>>> is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the
>>>>> price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to
>>>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>>>> the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.wall
>>>>> ens%40gmail.com

>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>  FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
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--Dar
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 17:40:13 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:40:13 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <00707fea.73a3.4086.a1cd.fa42ed9902c0@samobile.net>
References: <00707fea.73a3.4086.a1cd.fa42ed9902c0@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <0ae201d4cb9e$d4f20890$7ed619b0$@gmail.com>

As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something like denim or a sweater material.

As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it will be just like your meter and read out loud.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
I was always told they wouldn't.
Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

Original message:
> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
> I also would not want my clothes stained.
> I learn so much from the list.
> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my 
> shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, 
> you must eat rite away.
> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
> problem happens.

> Original message:
>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be 
>> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, 
>> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, 
>> I've injected through my clothes.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks,
>> many times I wear long dresses.

>> Original message:
>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future

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>> --Dar
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>> every sinner has a future
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 17:52:05 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:52:05 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor
In-Reply-To: <79b13f18.6195.4f83.9b5c.29ce38ef0b8e@samobile.net>
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I've never used a Clever Choice myself, but several people on the list do, and they have mentioned it before. I will let them comment on the meter itself. All I know is that it is completely, 100% accessible for blind users.

If you have a Prodigy Voice, there is a jack on the right side of the meter towards the bottom where you can plug in ear buds/head phones. I'm looking at an old Prodigy Autocode it accidently sent me years ago, and there is not a ear bud jack.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:10 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor

What is clever choice, and are the strips hard to get?
Does it have an ear phone jack?

Original message:
> The Prodigy Voice or Clever Choice. With Prodigy, it needs to be the 
> Voice and not the Autocode.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Pat Gill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:31 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Pat Gill <pgill6 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] blood glucose monitor


> What is the most accessible and accurate talking glucose monitor for a 
> totally blind person available in the U.S?  Thank you for your input 
> Pat


>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 7:21 AM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>> I learn so much from the list.
>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do 
>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this 
>> done, you must eat rite away.
>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
>> problem happens.

>> Original message:
>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to 
>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in 
>>> public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too 
>>> thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks,
>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>>>> all
>>>>> ens%40gmail.com

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>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>  FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
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>> --
>> --Dar
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>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Feb 23 21:41:33 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 13:41:33 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
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References: <00707fea.73a3.4086.a1cd.fa42ed9902c0@samobile.net>
	<0ae201d4cb9e$d4f20890$7ed619b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a401d4cbc0$8ba235d0$a2e6a170$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

There are at least three different lengths of insulin pen needles. I think it might be 4, 6 and 8 milimeters but I wouldn't stake my life on those numbers. That's a discussion you'd have with your doctor when writing out the prescription.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something like denim or a sweater material.

As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it will be just like your meter and read out loud.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
I was always told they wouldn't.
Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

Original message:
> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
> I also would not want my clothes stained.
> I learn so much from the list.
> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my 
> shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, 
> you must eat rite away.
> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
> problem happens.

> Original message:
>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be 
>> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, 
>> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, 
>> I've injected through my clothes.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks,
>> many times I wear long dresses.

>> Original message:
>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>>> l
>>>> l
>>>> ens%40gmail.com

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>>> y
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>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 22:54:54 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 16:54:54 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
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	<00a401d4cbc0$8ba235d0$a2e6a170$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Good to know. When I used pens, I always used needles that were short. It makes sense pen needles have different lengths since syringes do, but I wasn't sure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:42 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

There are at least three different lengths of insulin pen needles. I think it might be 4, 6 and 8 milimeters but I wouldn't stake my life on those numbers. That's a discussion you'd have with your doctor when writing out the prescription.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something like denim or a sweater material.

As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it will be just like your meter and read out loud.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
I was always told they wouldn't.
Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

Original message:
> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
> I also would not want my clothes stained.
> I learn so much from the list.
> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my 
> shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done, 
> you must eat rite away.
> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
> problem happens.

> Original message:
>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be 
>> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public, 
>> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick, 
>> I've injected through my clothes.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks,
>> many times I wear long dresses.

>> Original message:
>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future

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>> --
>> --Dar
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>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>> every sinner has a future
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 12:39:15 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 07:39:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
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Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.  Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis and nearly died three separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital.  I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.  By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again. 

Bern



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> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.
> 
> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.
> 
> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.
> 
> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
> 
> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
> Amber
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Now what a funny title rite/
>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in the bathroom.
>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is with you.
>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy with out anyone noticing.
>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex com myself.
>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the price still have to be the same.
>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to feel I had one to many to drink.
>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get anything mixed up.
>> Then transfer over.
>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the sun to long.
>> Thanks for reading.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb 25 14:12:33 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 09:12:33 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <f84e7a94.8799.42f1.8832.968d8b6d54af@samobile.net>

On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading, 
and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what is 
the readings as well.
I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
You understand what I am trying to say?

Original message:
> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but 
> I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle 
> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something like 
> denim or a sweater material.

> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other 
> than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, it 
> would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have ear 
> bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can hear 
> the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no one 
> would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it will be 
> just like your meter and read out loud.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
> I was always told they wouldn't.
> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

> Original message:
>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>> I learn so much from the list.
>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do my
>> shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this done,
>> you must eat rite away.
>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another
>> problem happens.

>> Original message:
>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to be
>>> just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected
>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in public,
>>> and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too thick,
>>> I've injected through my clothes.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks,
>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>>>> is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>>>> the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
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>>>>> l
>>>>> l
>>>>> ens%40gmail.com

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>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>   FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
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>> --
>> --Dar
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>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>> every sinner has a future
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> --
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>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb 25 15:03:51 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 10:03:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <d0b23430.0db5.414b.9e50.58aadbaaed9c@samobile.net>

Thanks I will get it worked out.
Just interesting to know what others do.
Then you don't feel out of place.

Original message:
> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and 
> it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough to 
> inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used 
> needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone 
> else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way 
> we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed 
> in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with 
> anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject 
> right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t 
> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating 
> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually have 
> some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to roll 
> them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when you go 
> into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.  Hospitals 
> are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled institutions.  I had 
> a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis and nearly died three 
> separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital. 
> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.  
> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into REHAB 
> to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an 
>> estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250 
>> a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
>> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know some 
>> people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their insurance, 
>> but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why pay out of 
>> pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to cover 
>> Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some people 
>> prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set anything 
>> down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just pull it 
>> out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle cap on 
>> when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, you have 
>> no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a needle on 
>> beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It was a little 
>> different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. For me, I found 
>> it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is 
>>> with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex 
>>> com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>>> price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the 
>>> sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future

>>> _______________________________________________
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Feb 25 20:56:58 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 12:56:58 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <d0b23430.0db5.414b.9e50.58aadbaaed9c@samobile.net>
References: <d0b23430.0db5.414b.9e50.58aadbaaed9c@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <002501d4cd4c$a63421f0$f29c65d0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now. Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but trust me, nobody cares.
Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks I will get it worked out.
Just interesting to know what others do.
Then you don't feel out of place.

Original message:
> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and 
> it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough to 
> inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used 
> needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone 
> else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way 
> we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed 
> in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with 
> anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject 
> right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t 
> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating 
> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually have 
> some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to roll 
> them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when you go 
> into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.  Hospitals 
> are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled institutions.  I had 
> a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis and nearly died three 
> separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital. 
> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.  
> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into REHAB 
> to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an 
>> estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250 
>> a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
>> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know some 
>> people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their insurance, 
>> but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why pay out of 
>> pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to cover 
>> Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some people 
>> prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set anything 
>> down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just pull it 
>> out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle cap on 
>> when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, you have 
>> no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a needle on 
>> beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It was a little 
>> different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. For me, I found 
>> it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is 
>>> with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex 
>>> com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the 
>>> price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the 
>>> sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future

>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.wallens%40gmail.com

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 21:03:56 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <002501d4cd4c$a63421f0$f29c65d0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <d0b23430.0db5.414b.9e50.58aadbaaed9c@samobile.net>
	<002501d4cd4c$a63421f0$f29c65d0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <19cb01d4cd4d$9fc4d5c0$df4e8140$@gmail.com>

LOL! And with voiceover on the phone, few sighted people can understand it, especially if you have the rate higher, but even if you don't, most are not used to hearing an electronic voice, so they usually can't understand it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now. Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but trust me, nobody cares.
Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks I will get it worked out.
Just interesting to know what others do.
Then you don't feel out of place.

Original message:
> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and 
> it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough 
> to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used 
> needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone 
> else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way 
> we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed 
> in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with 
> anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject 
> right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t 
> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating 
> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually 
> have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to 
> roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when 
> you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.  
> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled 
> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis 
> and nearly died three separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital.
> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.  
> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into 
> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given 
>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then 
>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
>> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know 
>> some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their 
>> insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why 
>> pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to 
>> cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set 
>> anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just 
>> pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle 
>> cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, 
>> you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a 
>> needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It 
>> was a little different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. 
>> For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>> is with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>> dex com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>> the sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future

>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> lens%40gmail.com

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 21:10:17 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:10:17 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
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You must have the Autocode then. Bluetooth ear buds only work on devices that have blutooth capability, which meters like Prodigy don't have. But obviously, a smart phone does.

As others have said, I doubt anyone is paying attention to what you do, especially on your phone. Most people are doing something on their phone, so it wouldn't be unusual. And sighted people who are diabetic also use apps for tools like Dexcom.

Personally, I care very little for what others think or say about me, but I would honestly be surprised if anyone paid attention to your phone unless you didn't use ear buds and they could hear voiceover just because people are curious about it, but a I have said, I doubt they can understand it. On my iPhone, my voiceover is at 75%, and few sighted people can understand it. I rarely use ear buds unless somewhere where I don't want to make a lot of noise like in class or a conference. Otherwise, I don't care.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading, and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what is the readings as well.
I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
You understand what I am trying to say?

Original message:
> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but 
> I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle 
> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something 
> like denim or a sweater material.

> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other 
> than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, 
> it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have 
> ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can 
> hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no 
> one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it 
> will be just like your meter and read out loud.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
> I was always told they wouldn't.
> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

> Original message:
>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>> I learn so much from the list.
>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do 
>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this 
>> done, you must eat rite away.
>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
>> problem happens.

>> Original message:
>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to 
>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in 
>>> public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too 
>>> thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks,
>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.w
>>>>> a
>>>>> l
>>>>> l
>>>>> ens%40gmail.com

>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> 0
>>>> m
>>>> y
>>>> sero.net

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>   FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bkpollpet
>>> e
>>> r
>>> %40gmail.com


>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40
>>> m
>>> y
>>> sero.net

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>> r
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>> y
>> sero.net

> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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> Diabetes-Talk:
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> %40gmail.com


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> Diabetes-Talk:
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> sero.net

--
--Dar
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  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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every sinner has a future
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 21:25:11 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:25:11 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <19cd01d4cd4e$828c1a30$87a44e90$@gmail.com>
References: <f84e7a94.8799.42f1.8832.968d8b6d54af@samobile.net>
	<19cd01d4cd4e$828c1a30$87a44e90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5c745d35.1c69fb81.3df82.c1a4@mx.google.com>

Without practice, sighted people can?t understand Voiceover on a phone, especially if you listen to it pretty quickly. If you?re worried about them reading the screen (which they can do), turn the Screen Curtain on.

Sandi


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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

You must have the Autocode then. Bluetooth ear buds only work on devices that have blutooth capability, which meters like Prodigy don't have. But obviously, a smart phone does.

As others have said, I doubt anyone is paying attention to what you do, especially on your phone. Most people are doing something on their phone, so it wouldn't be unusual. And sighted people who are diabetic also use apps for tools like Dexcom.

Personally, I care very little for what others think or say about me, but I would honestly be surprised if anyone paid attention to your phone unless you didn't use ear buds and they could hear voiceover just because people are curious about it, but a I have said, I doubt they can understand it. On my iPhone, my voiceover is at 75%, and few sighted people can understand it. I rarely use ear buds unless somewhere where I don't want to make a lot of noise like in class or a conference. Otherwise, I don't care.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading, and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what is the readings as well.
I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
You understand what I am trying to say?

Original message:
> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but 
> I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle 
> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something 
> like denim or a sweater material.

> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other 
> than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, 
> it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have 
> ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can 
> hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no 
> one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it 
> will be just like your meter and read out loud.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
> I was always told they wouldn't.
> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

> Original message:
>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>> I learn so much from the list.
>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do 
>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this 
>> done, you must eat rite away.
>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
>> problem happens.

>> Original message:
>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to 
>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in 
>>> public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too 
>>> thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks,
>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.w
>>>>> a
>>>>> l
>>>>> l
>>>>> ens%40gmail.com

>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%4
>>>> 0
>>>> m
>>>> y
>>>> sero.net

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>   FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bkpollpet
>>> e
>>> r
>>> %40gmail.com


>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40
>>> m
>>> y
>>> sero.net

>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>> r
>> %40gmail.com


>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>> y
>> sero.net

> --
> --Dar
> skype: dmgina23
>   FB: dmgina
> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bkpollpeter
> %40gmail.com


> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
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> sero.net

--
--Dar
skype: dmgina23
  FB: dmgina
www.twitter.com/dmgina
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every sinner has a future
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 21:26:32 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:26:32 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <5c745d35.1c69fb81.3df82.c1a4@mx.google.com>
References: <f84e7a94.8799.42f1.8832.968d8b6d54af@samobile.net>	<19cd01d4cd4e$828c1a30$87a44e90$@gmail.com>
	<5c745d35.1c69fb81.3df82.c1a4@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <19d401d4cd50$c7b9d730$572d8590$@gmail.com>

And for anyone who doesn't know, to turn the screen curtain off and on, tap the screen with 3 fingers 3 times. Voiceover will say if it's on or off.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:25 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Without practice, sighted people can?t understand Voiceover on a phone, especially if you listen to it pretty quickly. If you?re worried about them reading the screen (which they can do), turn the Screen Curtain on.

Sandi


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

You must have the Autocode then. Bluetooth ear buds only work on devices that have blutooth capability, which meters like Prodigy don't have. But obviously, a smart phone does.

As others have said, I doubt anyone is paying attention to what you do, especially on your phone. Most people are doing something on their phone, so it wouldn't be unusual. And sighted people who are diabetic also use apps for tools like Dexcom.

Personally, I care very little for what others think or say about me, but I would honestly be surprised if anyone paid attention to your phone unless you didn't use ear buds and they could hear voiceover just because people are curious about it, but a I have said, I doubt they can understand it. On my iPhone, my voiceover is at 75%, and few sighted people can understand it. I rarely use ear buds unless somewhere where I don't want to make a lot of noise like in class or a conference. Otherwise, I don't care.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading, and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what is the readings as well.
I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
You understand what I am trying to say?

Original message:
> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but 
> I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle 
> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something 
> like denim or a sweater material.

> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other 
> than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device, 
> it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have 
> ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can 
> hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no 
> one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it 
> will be just like your meter and read out loud.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
> I was always told they wouldn't.
> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

> Original message:
>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>> I learn so much from the list.
>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do 
>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this 
>> done, you must eat rite away.
>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
>> problem happens.

>> Original message:
>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to 
>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected 
>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in 
>>> public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too 
>>> thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks,
>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb 25 22:27:01 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:27:01 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <d4792f40.0cf9.4e42.b4d3.d5e4587a7301@samobile.net>

Boy howdy I am pleased about that.
I have been told by Jims family go to the bathroom no one wants to see 
your fat belly.
Or I have been in a gathering when I started taking shots twice a day 
where a lady said to me, I can help you if you need help, I will watch.
Things like this makes me feel self conscience.

Original message:
> Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now. 
> Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one 
> little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my 
> Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but 
> trust me, nobody cares.
> Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, 
> especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place, 
> oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song just 
> popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk is 
> about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think 
> about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of people 
> likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that we 
> don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As others 
> have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
> Veronica


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Thanks I will get it worked out.
> Just interesting to know what others do.
> Then you don't feel out of place.

> Original message:
>> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

>> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I
>> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often
>> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and
>> it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough to
>> inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used
>> needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone
>> else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way
>> we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed
>> in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with
>> anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject
>> right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t
>> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating
>> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually have
>> some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to roll
>> them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when you go
>> into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.  Hospitals
>> are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled institutions.  I had
>> a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis and nearly died three
>> separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital.
>> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.
>> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into REHAB
>> to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

>> Bern



>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your
>>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info
>>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it
>>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given an
>>> estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then $250
>>> a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3
>>> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know some
>>> people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their insurance,
>>> but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why pay out of
>>> pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to cover
>>> Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of
>>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some people
>>> prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set anything
>>> down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just pull it
>>> out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle cap on
>>> when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, you have
>>> no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a needle on
>>> beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It was a little
>>> different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe. For me, I found
>>> it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in
>>>> the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she is
>>>> with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the dex
>>>> com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would the
>>>> price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to
>>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in the
>>>> sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
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>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>>>> every sinner has a future

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb 25 22:30:15 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:30:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <1f1bfd1d.a7ad.4653.b787.7bed07bd5f37@samobile.net>

They are the apple buds.
I used them with the libre.

Original message:
> You must have the Autocode then. Bluetooth ear buds only work on 
> devices that have blutooth capability, which meters like Prodigy don't 
> have. But obviously, a smart phone does.

> As others have said, I doubt anyone is paying attention to what you do, 
> especially on your phone. Most people are doing something on their 
> phone, so it wouldn't be unusual. And sighted people who are diabetic 
> also use apps for tools like Dexcom.

> Personally, I care very little for what others think or say about me, 
> but I would honestly be surprised if anyone paid attention to your 
> phone unless you didn't use ear buds and they could hear voiceover just 
> because people are curious about it, but a I have said, I doubt they 
> can understand it. On my iPhone, my voiceover is at 75%, and few 
> sighted people can understand it. I rarely use ear buds unless 
> somewhere where I don't want to make a lot of noise like in class or a 
> conference. Otherwise, I don't care.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
> On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading, 
> and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what is 
> the readings as well.
> I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
> I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
> You understand what I am trying to say?

> Original message:
>> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, but
>> I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle
>> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something
>> like denim or a sweater material.

>> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones other
>> than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your device,
>> it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart devices have
>> ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter so no one can
>> hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight though, then no
>> one would hear the reading. But if you access it with voiceover, it
>> will be just like your meter and read out loud.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
>> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
>> I was always told they wouldn't.
>> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
>> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

>> Original message:
>>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>>> I learn so much from the list.
>>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do
>>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this
>>> done, you must eat rite away.
>>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another
>>> problem happens.

>>> Original message:
>>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to
>>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've injected
>>>> through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it in
>>>> public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't too
>>>> thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>> Thanks,
>>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>>> Amber

>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is
>>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while
>>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the
>>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would
>>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start
>>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are
>>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --Dar
>>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>>> every sinner has a future

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>>>>>> ens%40gmail.com

>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> y
>>>>> sero.net

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
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>>>>   FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>>>> every sinner has a future
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>>>> y
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>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>   FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
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>> --
>> --Dar
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>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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> --
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> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 22:34:53 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:34:53 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <19cb01d4cd4d$9fc4d5c0$df4e8140$@gmail.com>
References: <d0b23430.0db5.414b.9e50.58aadbaaed9c@samobile.net>	<002501d4cd4c$a63421f0$f29c65d0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<19cb01d4cd4d$9fc4d5c0$df4e8140$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04ec01d4cd5a$5493cc70$fdbb6550$@gmail.com>

Do agree with you.i have both I o s and android and they ask me how I can understand voice over on I O S and talkback on android.  Its funny  that they cant understand the robotic fast speaking voices.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

LOL! And with voiceover on the phone, few sighted people can understand it, especially if you have the rate higher, but even if you don't, most are not used to hearing an electronic voice, so they usually can't understand it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now. Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but trust me, nobody cares.
Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks I will get it worked out.
Just interesting to know what others do.
Then you don't feel out of place.

Original message:
> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and 
> it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough 
> to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used 
> needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone 
> else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way 
> we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed 
> in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with 
> anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject 
> right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t 
> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating 
> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually 
> have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to 
> roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when 
> you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.
> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled 
> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis 
> and nearly died three separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital.
> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.  
> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into 
> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given 
>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then
>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
>> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know 
>> some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their 
>> insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why 
>> pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to 
>> cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set 
>> anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just 
>> pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle 
>> cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, 
>> you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a 
>> needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It 
>> was a little different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe.
>> For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>> is with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>> dex com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>> the sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future

>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>> lens%40gmail.com

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 22:32:59 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 16:32:59 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <d4792f40.0cf9.4e42.b4d3.d5e4587a7301@samobile.net>
References: <d4792f40.0cf9.4e42.b4d3.d5e4587a7301@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <19f701d4cd5a$0ff34960$2fd9dc20$@gmail.com>

If anyone ever comments on your weight and size, tell them to go F themselves. I can't stand fat shaming of any kind, but especially against women. Overweight or underweight, no one should ever comment or make you feel ashamed of your body.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:27 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Boy howdy I am pleased about that.
I have been told by Jims family go to the bathroom no one wants to see your fat belly.
Or I have been in a gathering when I started taking shots twice a day where a lady said to me, I can help you if you need help, I will watch.
Things like this makes me feel self conscience.

Original message:
> Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now. 
> Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one 
> little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my 
> Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but 
> trust me, nobody cares.
> Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, 
> especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place, 
> oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song 
> just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk 
> is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think 
> about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of 
> people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that 
> we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As 
> others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Thanks I will get it worked out.
> Just interesting to know what others do.
> Then you don't feel out of place.

> Original message:
>> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

>> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
>> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
>> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom 
>> and it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just 
>> enough to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of 
>> the used needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before 
>> anyone else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking 
>> the way we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are 
>> engrossed in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting 
>> with anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to 
>> inject right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t 
>> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating 
>> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually 
>> have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to 
>> roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when 
>> you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.  
>> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled 
>> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis 
>> and nearly died three separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital.
>> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.
>> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into 
>> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

>> Bern



>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
>>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
>>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given 
>>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then 
>>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 
>>> 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know 
>>> some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their 
>>> insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why 
>>> pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused 
>>> to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
>>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
>>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set 
>>> anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just 
>>> pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a 
>>> needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you 
>>> do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you 
>>> don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put 
>>> anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of 
>>> insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>> Amber

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>>> is with you.
>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>> dex com myself.
>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>>> the sun to long.
>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
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>>>> llens%40gmail.com

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 22:34:13 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 16:34:13 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <1f1bfd1d.a7ad.4653.b787.7bed07bd5f37@samobile.net>
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Yes, but it's the Libre app on your phone. The ear buds are compatible with the phone, not Libre itself.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:30 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

They are the apple buds.
I used them with the libre.

Original message:
> You must have the Autocode then. Bluetooth ear buds only work on 
> devices that have blutooth capability, which meters like Prodigy don't 
> have. But obviously, a smart phone does.

> As others have said, I doubt anyone is paying attention to what you 
> do, especially on your phone. Most people are doing something on their 
> phone, so it wouldn't be unusual. And sighted people who are diabetic 
> also use apps for tools like Dexcom.

> Personally, I care very little for what others think or say about me, 
> but I would honestly be surprised if anyone paid attention to your 
> phone unless you didn't use ear buds and they could hear voiceover 
> just because people are curious about it, but a I have said, I doubt 
> they can understand it. On my iPhone, my voiceover is at 75%, and few 
> sighted people can understand it. I rarely use ear buds unless 
> somewhere where I don't want to make a lot of noise like in class or a 
> conference. Otherwise, I don't care.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
> On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading, 
> and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what 
> is the readings as well.
> I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
> I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
> You understand what I am trying to say?

> Original message:
>> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens, 
>> but I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle 
>> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something 
>> like denim or a sweater material.

>> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones 
>> other than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your 
>> device, it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart 
>> devices have ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter 
>> so no one can hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight 
>> though, then no one would hear the reading. But if you access it with 
>> voiceover, it will be just like your meter and read out loud.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
>> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
>> I was always told they wouldn't.
>> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
>> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

>> Original message:
>>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>>> I learn so much from the list.
>>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do 
>>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this 
>>> done, you must eat rite away.
>>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another 
>>> problem happens.

>>> Original message:
>>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to 
>>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've 
>>>> injected through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it 
>>>> in public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't 
>>>> too thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>> Thanks,
>>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>>> Amber

>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get 
>>>>>> the dex com myself.
>>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb 25 22:39:24 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:39:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <04e52eb9.dd57.4462.81bd.ce7e2941942f@samobile.net>

Thanks so much.
I have lost lots of weight since then, but I don't need folks to keep 
watching what I am doing.
As though I shouldn't be human.

Original message:
> If anyone ever comments on your weight and size, tell them to go F 
> themselves. I can't stand fat shaming of any kind, but especially 
> against women. Overweight or underweight, no one should ever comment or 
> make you feel ashamed of your body.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:27 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Boy howdy I am pleased about that.
> I have been told by Jims family go to the bathroom no one wants to see 
> your fat belly.
> Or I have been in a gathering when I started taking shots twice a day 
> where a lady said to me, I can help you if you need help, I will watch.
> Things like this makes me feel self conscience.

> Original message:
>> Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now.
>> Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one
>> little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my
>> Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but
>> trust me, nobody cares.
>> Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn,
>> especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place,
>> oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song
>> just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk
>> is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think
>> about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of
>> people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that
>> we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As
>> others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
>> Veronica


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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks I will get it worked out.
>> Just interesting to know what others do.
>> Then you don't feel out of place.

>> Original message:
>>> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

>>> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I
>>> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often
>>> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom
>>> and it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just
>>> enough to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of
>>> the used needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before
>>> anyone else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking
>>> the way we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are
>>> engrossed in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting
>>> with anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to
>>> inject right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t
>>> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating
>>> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually
>>> have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to
>>> roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when
>>> you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.
>>> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled
>>> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis
>>> and nearly died three separate times from other things she caught in 
>>> that very same hospital.
>>> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.
>>> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into
>>> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

>>> Bern



>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your
>>>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info
>>>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it
>>>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>>>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given
>>>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then
>>>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every
>>>> 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know
>>>> some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their
>>>> insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why
>>>> pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused
>>>> to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>>>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of
>>>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>>>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some
>>>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set
>>>> anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just
>>>> pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a
>>>> needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you
>>>> do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you
>>>> don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put
>>>> anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of
>>>> insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and 
>>>> inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>>>> Bridgit

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she
>>>>> is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy
>>>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in
>>>>> the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
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>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>>>>> every sinner has a future

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Mon Feb 25 22:41:02 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:41:02 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <80d053e4.ad0c.467c.a9e9.71c55db63633@samobile.net>

Correct, I liked it when no one knew what my numbers were.
I still haven't heard from my humana lady.
So I may have to go back to libre.
I just hope I can et it to stay on the arm and not fall off.
Way to expensive.

Original message:
> Yes, but it's the Libre app on your phone. The ear buds are compatible 
> with the phone, not Libre itself.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:30 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> They are the apple buds.
> I used them with the libre.

> Original message:
>> You must have the Autocode then. Bluetooth ear buds only work on
>> devices that have blutooth capability, which meters like Prodigy don't
>> have. But obviously, a smart phone does.

>> As others have said, I doubt anyone is paying attention to what you
>> do, especially on your phone. Most people are doing something on their
>> phone, so it wouldn't be unusual. And sighted people who are diabetic
>> also use apps for tools like Dexcom.

>> Personally, I care very little for what others think or say about me,
>> but I would honestly be surprised if anyone paid attention to your
>> phone unless you didn't use ear buds and they could hear voiceover
>> just because people are curious about it, but a I have said, I doubt
>> they can understand it. On my iPhone, my voiceover is at 75%, and few
>> sighted people can understand it. I rarely use ear buds unless
>> somewhere where I don't want to make a lot of noise like in class or a
>> conference. Otherwise, I don't care.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> On my meter has no jack for ear phones.
>> On the phone I have the blue tooth ones that I would hear the reading,
>> and then I could fix the screen so no sighted person would know what
>> is the readings as well.
>> I am not ashamed what the readings are, because that is what they are.
>> I just don't feel I want to be national discussed because of the readings.
>> You understand what I am trying to say?

>> Original message:
>>> As far as I know, there are not different needle lengths for pens,
>>> but I could be wrong. However, I never had a problem with the needle
>>> penetrating fabric when I used pens as long as it wasn't something
>>> like denim or a sweater material.

>>> As for meters using blue tooth, I'm not aware of accessible ones
>>> other than Libre and Dexcom. However, if you use voiceover on your
>>> device, it would still read out loud. Either way, meters or smart
>>> devices have ear bud capability. You can plug ear buds into a meter
>>> so no one can hear the number. If you use a smart device with sight
>>> though, then no one would hear the reading. But if you access it with
>>> voiceover, it will be just like your meter and read out loud.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:09 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Oh thanks, I didn't know that.
>>> What is the longest needle to get that would work threw clotheing.
>>> I was always told they wouldn't.
>>> Also is there a meter out there that can work blue tooth?
>>> Then everyone doesn't know what your readings are, good or bad.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Insulin is clear and does not stain.

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:21 AM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>> Wow what kind of needles do you have. I would like to order them.
>>>> I also would not want my clothes stained.
>>>> I learn so much from the list.
>>>> The other question I have, when making dinner is when I would go do
>>>> my shot for the evening, I was told I have 15 minutes to get this
>>>> done, you must eat rite away.
>>>> I sure don't want my food cold or taking it to early that another
>>>> problem happens.

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> You can inject in your tummy, arm, thigh, butt. It doesn't have to
>>>>> be just the tummy. And little secret, when using pens, I've
>>>>> injected through fabric before, grin. In a pinch, if I had to do it
>>>>> in public, and wearing something like a dress, if the fabric isn't
>>>>> too thick, I've injected through my clothes.

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:23 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> many times I wear long dresses.

>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>>>> Amber

>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is
>>>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while
>>>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the
>>>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get
>>>>>>> the dex com myself.
>>>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would
>>>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start
>>>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are
>>>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>>>> every sinner has a future

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 22:39:01 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 16:39:01 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
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Both my husband and I are blind and use JAWS, Apple voiceover, and the voiceover on our cable through the TV. Our 6-year-old is used to it, so he can understand it. He knows how to use an iPad and iPhone both visually and with voiceover, because he's grown up with it. He even knows how to double tap because we don't let him have his own without voiceover automatically on it at all times. A couple of my friends are used to it too now and can understand it, but in general, most sighted people have no idea what it is saying. I'm often asked if my phone or laptop is speaking Spanish, because to them, it doesn't sound like English, LOL! I love the question, "You can understand that?" As if I would be using it if I didn't. People don't think, ha!

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Do agree with you.i have both I o s and android and they ask me how I can understand voice over on I O S and talkback on android.  Its funny  that they cant understand the robotic fast speaking voices.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 1:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

LOL! And with voiceover on the phone, few sighted people can understand it, especially if you have the rate higher, but even if you don't, most are not used to hearing an electronic voice, so they usually can't understand it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:57 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now. Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but trust me, nobody cares.
Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks I will get it worked out.
Just interesting to know what others do.
Then you don't feel out of place.

Original message:
> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom and 
> it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just enough 
> to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of the used 
> needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse before anyone 
> else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t looking the way 
> we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, most are engrossed 
> in conversations whith whomever they happened to be sitting with 
> anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been known to inject 
> right through the material of the dress.  I obviously wouldn?t 
> recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under extenuating 
> circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  I actually 
> have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on my arms to 
> roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  That?s why when 
> you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.
> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled 
> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for pancreatitis 
> and nearly died three separate times from other things she caught in that very same hospital.
> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.  
> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into 
> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the info 
>> given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, but it 
>> could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given 
>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor then
>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every 3 
>> months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I know 
>> some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and their 
>> insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it covered, why 
>> pay out of pocket? It was different when certain providers refused to 
>> cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms of 
>> what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to set 
>> anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You just 
>> pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a needle 
>> cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you do this, 
>> you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you don't put a 
>> needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put anything down. It 
>> was a little different when you had a vial of insulin and a syringe.
>> For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes. 
>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>> Amber

>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is in 
>>> the bathroom.
>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while she 
>>> is with you.
>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the tummy 
>>> with out anyone noticing.
>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>> dex com myself.
>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start to 
>>> feel I had one to many to drink.
>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>> anything mixed up.
>>> Then transfer over.
>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are in 
>>> the sun to long.
>>> Thanks for reading.

>>> --
>>> --Dar
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>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>>> every sinner has a future

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 22:41:16 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 16:41:16 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <04e52eb9.dd57.4462.81bd.ce7e2941942f@samobile.net>
References: <04e52eb9.dd57.4462.81bd.ce7e2941942f@samobile.net>
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To play Devil's Advocate, sighted or blind, anyone taking insulin or testing blood sugars will likely be a curiosity to anyone. So, it's not specific to being a blind diabetic. That said, again, not that many people pay attention. But if they do, so what? I breastfed my baby's in public, so testing or taking a shot is nothing, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:39 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks so much.
I have lost lots of weight since then, but I don't need folks to keep watching what I am doing.
As though I shouldn't be human.

Original message:
> If anyone ever comments on your weight and size, tell them to go F 
> themselves. I can't stand fat shaming of any kind, but especially 
> against women. Overweight or underweight, no one should ever comment 
> or make you feel ashamed of your body.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:27 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Boy howdy I am pleased about that.
> I have been told by Jims family go to the bathroom no one wants to see 
> your fat belly.
> Or I have been in a gathering when I started taking shots twice a day 
> where a lady said to me, I can help you if you need help, I will watch.
> Things like this makes me feel self conscience.

> Original message:
>> Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now.
>> Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one 
>> little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my 
>> Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but 
>> trust me, nobody cares.
>> Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, 
>> especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that 
>> place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that 
>> song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this 
>> honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you 
>> think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots 
>> of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame 
>> that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As 
>> others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks I will get it worked out.
>> Just interesting to know what others do.
>> Then you don't feel out of place.

>> Original message:
>>> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

>>> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
>>> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
>>> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom 
>>> and it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just 
>>> enough to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of 
>>> the used needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse 
>>> before anyone else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t 
>>> looking the way we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, 
>>> most are engrossed in conversations whith whomever they happened to 
>>> be sitting with anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been 
>>> known to inject right through the material of the dress.  I 
>>> obviously wouldn?t recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under 
>>> extenuating circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  
>>> I actually have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on 
>>> my arms to roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  
>>> That?s why when you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.
>>> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled 
>>> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for 
>>> pancreatitis and nearly died three separate times from other things 
>>> she caught in that very same hospital.
>>> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.
>>> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into 
>>> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

>>> Bern



>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>>>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the 
>>>> info given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, 
>>>> but it could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>>>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given 
>>>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor 
>>>> then
>>>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every
>>>> 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I 
>>>> know some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and 
>>>> their insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it 
>>>> covered, why pay out of pocket? It was different when certain 
>>>> providers refused to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>>>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms 
>>>> of what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>>>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
>>>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to 
>>>> set anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You 
>>>> just pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a 
>>>> needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you 
>>>> do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you 
>>>> don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put 
>>>> anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of 
>>>> insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen 
>>>> and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>>>> Bridgit

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> llens%40gmail.com

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>> --
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>>   FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>> every sinner has a future
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Feb 26 02:56:25 2019
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:56:25 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
In-Reply-To: <19fa01d4cd5b$381c8c20$a855a460$@gmail.com>
References: <04e52eb9.dd57.4462.81bd.ce7e2941942f@samobile.net>
	<19fa01d4cd5b$381c8c20$a855a460$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501d4cd7e$dcf4a160$96dde420$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

When I had my Cozmo and Animas pumps, I wore them in a pocket that had a Velcro strap that went around my waist. When I wanted to do something on the pump in public. I removed it from the waist band. But in order to really hear it, I had to pull the thing way out, which meant that when I was done, I had all the tubing to stuff back in my clothing. I learned to just do it and truthfully, if I acted like it was no big deal, so did everyone else.. Now I have a remote which isn't attached to anything, but I still occasionally have to say to my friends, hang on, I'm counting. I have diabetes. So what! My guide dog threw up once in public. Kids get sick in public. Kids scream in public. Life happens when we're out there living. Just enjoy the fact that you're well enough to be out. Smile and at least you'll feel better. Once my sister and I were out at a restaurant with a friend. Someone was staring at us for no particular reason. Our friend turned to the person and just said, why don't you take a picture, it lasts longer. End of that one. <lol.> 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

To play Devil's Advocate, sighted or blind, anyone taking insulin or testing blood sugars will likely be a curiosity to anyone. So, it's not specific to being a blind diabetic. That said, again, not that many people pay attention. But if they do, so what? I breastfed my baby's in public, so testing or taking a shot is nothing, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:39 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

Thanks so much.
I have lost lots of weight since then, but I don't need folks to keep watching what I am doing.
As though I shouldn't be human.

Original message:
> If anyone ever comments on your weight and size, tell them to go F 
> themselves. I can't stand fat shaming of any kind, but especially 
> against women. Overweight or underweight, no one should ever comment 
> or make you feel ashamed of your body.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:27 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Boy howdy I am pleased about that.
> I have been told by Jims family go to the bathroom no one wants to see 
> your fat belly.
> Or I have been in a gathering when I started taking shots twice a day 
> where a lady said to me, I can help you if you need help, I will watch.
> Things like this makes me feel self conscience.

> Original message:
>> Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now.
>> Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one 
>> little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my 
>> Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but 
>> trust me, nobody cares.
>> Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn, 
>> especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that 
>> place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that 
>> song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this 
>> honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you 
>> think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots 
>> of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame 
>> that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As 
>> others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
>> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Thanks I will get it worked out.
>> Just interesting to know what others do.
>> Then you don't feel out of place.

>> Original message:
>>> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

>>> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I 
>>> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often 
>>> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom 
>>> and it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just 
>>> enough to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of 
>>> the used needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse 
>>> before anyone else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t 
>>> looking the way we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are, 
>>> most are engrossed in conversations whith whomever they happened to 
>>> be sitting with anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been 
>>> known to inject right through the material of the dress.  I 
>>> obviously wouldn?t recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under 
>>> extenuating circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.  
>>> I actually have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on 
>>> my arms to roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.  
>>> That?s why when you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as possible.
>>> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled 
>>> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for 
>>> pancreatitis and nearly died three separate times from other things 
>>> she caught in that very same hospital.
>>> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.
>>> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into 
>>> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

>>> Bern



>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your 
>>>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the 
>>>> info given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin, 
>>>> but it could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>>>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given 
>>>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor 
>>>> then
>>>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every
>>>> 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I 
>>>> know some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and 
>>>> their insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it 
>>>> covered, why pay out of pocket? It was different when certain 
>>>> providers refused to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't pay out of pocket.

>>>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms 
>>>> of what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>>>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some 
>>>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to 
>>>> set anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You 
>>>> just pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a 
>>>> needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you 
>>>> do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you 
>>>> don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put 
>>>> anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of 
>>>> insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen 
>>>> and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>>>> Bridgit

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>> Amber

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is 
>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while 
>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the 
>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the 
>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would 
>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start 
>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get 
>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are 
>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/amber.w
>>>>> a
>>>>> llens%40gmail.com

>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> e
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>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>>   FB: dmgina
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Tue Feb 26 16:35:09 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:35:09 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] when out
Message-ID: <34399efe.e157.4638.b672.c523c7f58ce0@samobile.net>

You made me smile.
I know it will be ok, but to hear from you folks how you handle it 
makes me feel better.
I am still working on what I have before we do all of the medicine changes.
I do hope to get the dex com, where I think i will have to go back to 
the libre.
Will have to put it all back in the phone, but you do what one has to do.
Thanks so much for being kind.

Original message:
> When I had my Cozmo and Animas pumps, I wore them in a pocket that had 
> a Velcro strap that went around my waist. When I wanted to do something 
> on the pump in public. I removed it from the waist band. But in order 
> to really hear it, I had to pull the thing way out, which meant that 
> when I was done, I had all the tubing to stuff back in my clothing. I 
> learned to just do it and truthfully, if I acted like it was no big 
> deal, so did everyone else.. Now I have a remote which isn't attached 
> to anything, but I still occasionally have to say to my friends, hang 
> on, I'm counting. I have diabetes. So what! My guide dog threw up once 
> in public. Kids get sick in public. Kids scream in public. Life happens 
> when we're out there living. Just enjoy the fact that you're well 
> enough to be out. Smile and at least you'll feel better. Once my sister 
> and I were out at a restaurant with a friend. Someone was staring at us 
> for no particular reason. Our friend turned to the person and just 
> said, why don't you take a picture, it lasts longer. End of that one. <lol.>
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide 
> Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:41 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> To play Devil's Advocate, sighted or blind, anyone taking insulin or 
> testing blood sugars will likely be a curiosity to anyone. So, it's not 
> specific to being a blind diabetic. That said, again, not that many 
> people pay attention. But if they do, so what? I breastfed my baby's in 
> public, so testing or taking a shot is nothing, grin.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

> Thanks so much.
> I have lost lots of weight since then, but I don't need folks to keep 
> watching what I am doing.
> As though I shouldn't be human.

> Original message:
>> If anyone ever comments on your weight and size, tell them to go F
>> themselves. I can't stand fat shaming of any kind, but especially
>> against women. Overweight or underweight, no one should ever comment
>> or make you feel ashamed of your body.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:27 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>> Boy howdy I am pleased about that.
>> I have been told by Jims family go to the bathroom no one wants to see
>> your fat belly.
>> Or I have been in a gathering when I started taking shots twice a day
>> where a lady said to me, I can help you if you need help, I will watch.
>> Things like this makes me feel self conscience.

>> Original message:
>>> Dar, there's one change in our society that works in our favor now.
>>> Everyone's looking down at their own phones and aren't paying one
>>> little bit of attention to us. I always whip out my phone to get my
>>> Dexcom reading in public. I don't have it turned up really loud, but
>>> trust me, nobody cares.
>>> Back when I was younger, every time someone honked their horn,
>>> especially if I was crossing a street, I instantly went to that
>>> place, oh no! What am I doing wrong now? Then one day, suddenly that
>>> song just popped into my head."You're so vain. You prob'ly think this
>>> honk is about you." I tell you, changed my attitude forever. When you
>>> think about it, diabetes is so common these days that lots and lots
>>> of people likely inject in public now. In a way it's kind of a shame
>>> that we don't get to watch what others do in restaurants and such. As
>>> others have said, relax. You are one of millions and nobody notices.
>>> Veronica


>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:04 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>> Thanks I will get it worked out.
>>> Just interesting to know what others do.
>>> Then you don't feel out of place.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Relaxxx Dar!!!  The world hasn?t ended yet.  Take a deep breath...

>>>> Bridget is right on.  When I am using my insulin pens, ?p e n? s, I
>>>> don?t sit anyhting down on either a tab le or a sink.  I too, often
>>>> will put a pen needle which is capped before even leaviing my hoom
>>>> and it?s always in my purse.  I, too simply slip up my shirt just
>>>> enough to inject.  Have at it. And pull it back down, take care of
>>>> the used needle, and everything is slipped b ack into my purse
>>>> before anyone else is the wiser.  Besides, Most people really aren?t
>>>> looking the way we always think they are anyway.  Just like we are,
>>>> most are engrossed in conversations whith whomever they happened to
>>>> be sitting with anyway.  As for wearing a long dress, I?ve even been
>>>> known to inject right through the material of the dress.  I
>>>> obviously wouldn?t recommend this on a regular basis.  But, under
>>>> extenuating circumstances.  I?ve certainly lived to tell about it.
>>>> I actually have some blouses that have sleeves that are too tight on
>>>> my arms to roll them up.  I don?t inject in a batghroom ever.
>>>> That?s why when you go into a hospital, they get you out as quickly as 
>>>> possible.
>>>> Hospitals are only notorious for being the most jerm-filled
>>>> institutions.  I had a niece who was in the hospital for
>>>> pancreatitis and nearly died three separate times from other things
>>>> she caught in that very same hospital.
>>>> I ;think her mom and dad tried to get her to sue.  But she wouldn?t.
>>>> By the time she did get out four months later, she had to go into
>>>> REHAB to learn to build up her muscles and body toan so she could walk again.

>>>> Bern



>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> First, it's a pen, not a pin. Second, you really need to ask your
>>>>> doctor about what injection you should or do take. Based on the
>>>>> info given here, I have no clue what it is. It could be insulin,
>>>>> but it could also be some other kind of diabetic injection.

>>>>> A year ago, when I looked into buying Dexcom on my own, I was given
>>>>> an estimate of an initial $1200 for the receiver and transmitor
>>>>> then
>>>>> $250 a month for supplies. The transmitter has to be replaced every
>>>>> 3 months, and I don't recall what the cost would be for that. I
>>>>> know some people here are having quite the time with Dexcom and
>>>>> their insurance, but if you can get it covered or most of it
>>>>> covered, why pay out of pocket? It was different when certain
>>>>> providers refused to cover Dexcom, but if your insurance does, don't 
>>>>> pay out of pocket.

>>>>> Dar, keep in mind, while Dexcom is a far superior system in terms
>>>>> of what it offers and functionality, it is nonetheless a CGM like Libre.

>>>>> If you want to take injections in public, that's up to you. Some
>>>>> people prefer to do it in private. With a pen, you don't have to
>>>>> set anything down, so, doing it in a bathroom isn't a big deal. You
>>>>> just pull it out, dial it up and inject. When I used pens, I kept a
>>>>> needle cap on when going out so I didn't have to insert it. If you
>>>>> do this, you have no reason to set anything down, but even if you
>>>>> don't put a needle on beforehand, you still don't have to put
>>>>> anything down. It was a little different when you had a vial of
>>>>> insulin and a syringe. For me, I found it easy enough to dial a pen
>>>>> and inject discretely in public. To each his own.

>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Amber Wallenstein via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:34 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Amber Wallenstein <amber.wallens at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] when out

>>>>> When I am out and have to give myself a shot, I bring alcohol wipes.
>>>>> But really I just lift up my shirt in the bathroom and do it.
>>>>> I like the pen, they?re easy to use.
>>>>> Amber

>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:36 PM, d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>>> Now what a funny title rite/
>>>>>> I don't remember the pin they want to put me on except it is the 70 30 pin.
>>>>>> You give your shot before a meal, I get that.
>>>>>> When out ladies, have you gone to the bathroom to do this?
>>>>>> Especially in the winter months when wearing long sleeves?
>>>>>> I was told by a friend the worst place to give yourself a shot is
>>>>>> in the bathroom.
>>>>>> Because you don't know how clean it is.
>>>>>> I also have a dog who thinks she needs to know everything while
>>>>>> she is with you.
>>>>>> Sure hope she doesn't gossep loll.
>>>>>> I lwear leggings in the winter, I could try to do this on the
>>>>>> tummy with out anyone noticing.
>>>>>> Can someone explain again, how much I would need to pay to get the
>>>>>> dex com myself.
>>>>>> Then I don't have to worry about insurance.
>>>>>> Is this still the $300 everyone spoke about?
>>>>>> Also what is it I would have to buy every three months, and would
>>>>>> the price still have to be the same.
>>>>>> I will be taken off three medicines when I start the new pin.
>>>>>> Wow don't know how insurance is going to handle that loll.
>>>>>> I don't know how to tell when I am low until i stand up and start
>>>>>> to feel I had one to many to drink.
>>>>>> But don't know what the drink was smile.
>>>>>> I asked to let me take what i have at home first so I don't get
>>>>>> anything mixed up.
>>>>>> Then transfer over.
>>>>>> Also does one have to worry about the sun?
>>>>>> I know there are medicines that one must worry about if they are
>>>>>> in the sun to long.
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.

>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --Dar
>>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>>> every sinner has a future

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>>>>>> llens%40gmail.com

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>>>> ysero.net

>>> --
>>> --Dar
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>>>   FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
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>>> every sinner has a future
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From fasac at icloud.com  Tue Feb 26 17:50:48 2019
From: fasac at icloud.com (frederick sacco)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Ads
Message-ID: <E712FD9B-9100-4896-BE5B-8F9ED748CBD6@icloud.com>

PK Vitality has linked to your list and is sending spam. I believe this is in violation of the terms of use.

iPhone 8.1



From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 19:50:36 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:50:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <042001d4cdfa$55bced70$0136c850$@gmail.com>
References: <201926021401.8yuq0pk06dhrj@bn.d.mailin.fr>
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Message-ID: <19BE0108-AA6D-4582-AD56-59BA078AF6B4@gmail.com>

Gary, are you sure this isn?t SPAM???  I?m not and I?d like David Andrews twho oversees all listserves in the organization to investigate!!!  

Bern

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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 20:29:28 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (G Melconian)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:29:28 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <19BE0108-AA6D-4582-AD56-59BA078AF6B4@gmail.com>
References: <201926021401.8yuq0pk06dhrj@bn.d.mailin.fr>
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Message-ID: <1692b7f7840.27a9.76f7706a0d51902714afda849d7cf02f@gmail.com>

sorry Bernadette if you feel that way I won't post stuff like this I was 
not sure so I felt it was a bit of interesting information sorry if it's 
off topic won't post it just was not informed of it sorry that it let it go 
thanks have a good day


On February 26, 2019 11:50:38 AM Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Gary, are you sure this isn?t SPAM???  I?m not and I?d like David Andrews 
> twho oversees all listserves in the organization to investigate!!!
>
> Bern
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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>> perceptions.
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>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your expectations, 
>> we would like to ask you questions based on your profile (type of diabetes, 
>> medical device...).
>> 
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>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to you by 
>> email.
>> 
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>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions and 
>> personalized questionnaires, either by email or during interviews with one 
>> of our team members.
>> 
>> To share your experience with us, click here:
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>> purpose only.
>> All information, data, photos, videos contained in this email or our 
>> website are proprietary information.
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>> This email was sent to gmelconian619 at gmail.com
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 01:26:46 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:26:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <1692b7f7840.27a9.76f7706a0d51902714afda849d7cf02f@gmail.com>
References: <201926021401.8yuq0pk06dhrj@bn.d.mailin.fr>
	<042001d4cdfa$55bced70$0136c850$@gmail.com>
	<19BE0108-AA6D-4582-AD56-59BA078AF6B4@gmail.com>
	<1692b7f7840.27a9.76f7706a0d51902714afda849d7cf02f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EF8C50D-8BA4-42E3-B362-63337B68BDFE@gmail.com>

Actually Gary, I was simply unsure. I didn?t know, because I had seen this elsewhere and that particular email said that this outfit was a scam. I could be totally wrong. If I am wrong, I stand corrected. Maybe somebody else has other information. If so, let us know.


Bern



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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:29 PM, G Melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> sorry Bernadette if you feel that way I won't post stuff like this I was not sure so I felt it was a bit of interesting information sorry if it's off topic won't post it just was not informed of it sorry that it let it go thanks have a good day
> 
> 
>> On February 26, 2019 11:50:38 AM Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Gary, are you sure this isn?t SPAM???  I?m not and I?d like David Andrews twho oversees all listserves in the organization to investigate!!!
>> 
>> Bern
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
>>>       We want to get to know you
>>> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your experience and perceptions.
>>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).
>>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to you by email.
>>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during interviews with one of our team members.
>>> To share your experience with us, click here:
>>> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/oWK-ov9IfDMQ-qmXj1B3sypXKFOPowumZScuYeMr4EpoWkiMesjwtJUWW3wvRfz69v-QoPbbKO-blot1L3iCKTXjGDvCe7YeOLvUfTnw6wYewRkCoCL77nW_I0aPn2xC3cklAfQKycBzCIuv2mmBPAZJPBmeuUezZM6OeGpAd9XlwMuZfSucJWKV8Yg> I want to share my experience
>>> We thank you in advance for your help,
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> PKvitality team
>>> PKvitality
>>> 11, Rue Carnot
>>> 94270, Le Kremlin Bicetre, Paris
>>> social at pkvitality.com
>>> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/yncXsPvqAo8FRq5cn1ShwE83VTInOsek1ZDeZf5gTZDBqBtI-Xx5PmQ8E_dhX0OOqKtgRM-vrygSSRuQNd0mVk-ax4aRnXhT7l2Mcn1KORyMoNSUk2tbZWEeEKqMhuEouOy8NH9IGVZwnPgywejxlhi2BDVf0APyD5w5sXDAG4519us_7BXEnKZ5TV4WY5sxUJskubM4GPoTcg>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 02:15:31 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:15:31 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <042001d4cdfa$55bced70$0136c850$@gmail.com>
References: <201926021401.8yuq0pk06dhrj@bn.d.mailin.fr>
	<042001d4cdfa$55bced70$0136c850$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <adf601d4ce42$50e40070$f2ac0150$@gmail.com>

Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.  

				Jamie

http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

 

 

From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

 

		






 







 





 




We want to get to know you

 

  

In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your experience and perceptions.
 

In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).
 

If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to you by email.

  

You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during interviews with one of our team members.

To share your experience with us, click here:


 





 





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We thank you in advance for your help,

  

Kind Regards,

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94270, Le Kremlin Bicetre, Paris

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From joystigile at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 04:25:29 2019
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:25:29 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <adf601d4ce42$50e40070$f2ac0150$@gmail.com>
References: <201926021401.8yuq0pk06dhrj@bn.d.mailin.fr>	<042001d4cdfa$55bced70$0136c850$@gmail.com>
	<adf601d4ce42$50e40070$f2ac0150$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01d4ce54$79980e50$6cc82af0$@gmail.com>

Hi,
Gary forwarded this message to the DAN list.
Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 6:16 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.  

				Jamie

http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

 

 

From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

 

		






 







 





 




We want to get to know you

 

  

In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your experience and perceptions.
 

In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).
 

If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to you by email.

  

You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during interviews with one of our team members.

To share your experience with us, click here:


 





 





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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb 27 05:56:56 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 00:56:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <e3808c44.19d8.4c05.9be6.667e9620ebd2@samobile.net>

There was one I filled out, because it said something about diabetics.
I hope I am not the one sending scam.

Original message:
> Actually Gary, I was simply unsure. I didn?t know, because I had seen 
> this elsewhere and that particular email said that this outfit was a 
> scam. I could be totally wrong. If I am wrong, I stand corrected. Maybe 
> somebody else has other information. If so, let us know.


> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:29 PM, G Melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:

>> sorry Bernadette if you feel that way I won't post stuff like this I 
>> was not sure so I felt it was a bit of interesting information sorry if 
>> it's off topic won't post it just was not informed of it sorry that it 
>> let it go thanks have a good day


>>> On February 26, 2019 11:50:38 AM Bernadette Jacobs 
>>> <bernienfb75 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Gary, are you sure this isn?t SPAM???  I?m not and I?d like David 
>>> Andrews twho oversees all listserves in the organization to investigate!!!

>>> Bern

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
>>>>       We want to get to know you
>>>> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you may 
>>>> face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your experience 
>>>> and perceptions.
>>>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your 
>>>> expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your profile 
>>>> (type of diabetes, medical device...).
>>>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to 
>>>> you by email.
>>>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions 
>>>> and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during interviews 
>>>> with one of our team members.
>>>> To share your experience with us, click here:
>>>> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/oWK-ov9IfDMQ-qmXj1B3sypXKFOPowumZScuYeMr4EpoWkiMesjwtJUWW3wvRfz69v-QoPbbKO-blot1L3iCKTXjGDvCe7YeOLvUfTnw6wYewRkCoCL77nW_I0aPn2xC3cklAfQKycBzCIuv2mmBPAZJPBmeuUezZM6OeGpAd9XlwMuZfSucJWKV8Yg> 
>>>> I want to share my experience
>>>> We thank you in advance for your help,
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> PKvitality team
>>>> PKvitality
>>>> 11, Rue Carnot
>>>> 94270, Le Kremlin Bicetre, Paris
>>>> social at pkvitality.com
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>>>> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/EEKPEAcZezpAa1rhJKxq2H0jiUIuAt-LHRHqU_CyhEv0w8reoo0hwlKFc9CPp5xXLeJUfsdnC7_KUE7QyOlqaV6wtXI0fVRIK-2pTRISxlXKwM85HtH1qaAEfspvpCX4GvcyPX3UAHoBIYJjfJ3tmVexWi_b3ip6dy0ExTYCJphYZC2xWjFNmKq1XMpqf4k3Ds6eLxr80P4gJ9hQ8AQ>
>>>> This Medical device is still under development process and may still 
>>>> shift in the course of carrying out the project. It is not available 
>>>> yet. All information within this email or our website are provided for 
>>>> information purpose only.
>>>> All information, data, photos, videos contained in this email or our 
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb 27 05:58:31 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 00:58:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <eeec68f5.13ac.4b4e.ac04.fbd2dd097201@samobile.net>

I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that it 
is an app and it would fit on my watch.
We shall see what happens in two years.

Original message:
> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional 
> medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending 
> us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing 
> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or 
> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>                                 Jamie

> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





























> We want to get to know you





> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you may 
> face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your experience 
> and perceptions.


> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your 
> expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your profile 
> (type of diabetes, medical device...).


> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to 
> you by email.



> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions 
> and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during interviews 
> with one of our team members.

> To share your experience with us, click here:














>  
> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/oWK-ov9IfDMQ-qmXj1B3sypXKFOPowumZScuYeMr4EpoWkiMesjwtJUWW3wvRfz69v-QoPbbKO-blot1L3iCKTXjGDvCe7YeOLvUfTnw6wYewRkCoCL77nW_I0aPn2xC3cklAfQKycBzCIuv2mmBPAZJPBmeuUezZM6OeGpAd9XlwMuZfSucJWKV8Yg> 
> I want to share my experience













> We thank you in advance for your help,



> Kind Regards,

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> PKvitality
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>  
> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/yncXsPvqAo8FRq5cn1ShwE83VTInOsek1ZDeZf5gTZDBqBtI-Xx5PmQ8E_dhX0OOqKtgRM-vrygSSRuQNd0mVk-ax4aRnXhT7l2Mcn1KORyMoNSUk2tbZWEeEKqMhuEouOy8NH9IGVZwnPgywejxlhi2BDVf0APyD5w5sXDAG4519us_7BXEnKZ5TV4WY5sxUJskubM4GPoTcg>


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> This Medical device is still under development process and may still 
> shift in the course of carrying out the project. It is not available 
> yet. All information within this email or our website are provided for 
> information purpose only.
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> website are proprietary information.



> This email was sent to gmelconian619 at gmail.com

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 14:25:38 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 08:25:38 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <e3808c44.19d8.4c05.9be6.667e9620ebd2@samobile.net>
References: <e3808c44.19d8.4c05.9be6.667e9620ebd2@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1c5e01d4cea8$4fd5b460$ef811d20$@gmail.com>

I wouldn't just fill something out just because it says something about diabetes or anything else, especially if it ask for personal information. Before filling anything out, you should know exactly what it is for and where it is coming from.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:57 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

There was one I filled out, because it said something about diabetics.
I hope I am not the one sending scam.

Original message:
> Actually Gary, I was simply unsure. I didn?t know, because I had seen 
> this elsewhere and that particular email said that this outfit was a 
> scam. I could be totally wrong. If I am wrong, I stand corrected. 
> Maybe somebody else has other information. If so, let us know.


> Bern



> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:29 PM, G Melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:

>> sorry Bernadette if you feel that way I won't post stuff like this I 
>> was not sure so I felt it was a bit of interesting information sorry 
>> if it's off topic won't post it just was not informed of it sorry 
>> that it let it go thanks have a good day


>>> On February 26, 2019 11:50:38 AM Bernadette Jacobs 
>>> <bernienfb75 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Gary, are you sure this isn?t SPAM???  I?m not and I?d like David 
>>> Andrews twho oversees all listserves in the organization to investigate!!!

>>> Bern

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
>>>>       We want to get to know you
>>>> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you 
>>>> may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your 
>>>> experience and perceptions.
>>>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your 
>>>> expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your 
>>>> profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).
>>>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back 
>>>> to you by email.
>>>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during 
>>>> discussions and personalized questionnaires, either by email or 
>>>> during interviews with one of our team members.
>>>> To share your experience with us, click here:
>>>> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/oWK-ov9IfDMQ-qmXj1B3sypXK
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>>>> zZM6OeGpAd9XlwMuZfSucJWKV8Yg>
>>>> I want to share my experience
>>>> We thank you in advance for your help, Kind Regards, PKvitality 
>>>> team PKvitality 11, Rue Carnot 94270, Le Kremlin Bicetre, Paris 
>>>> social at pkvitality.com 
>>>> <http://2pldf.r.ca.d.sendibm2.com/mk/cl/f/yncXsPvqAo8FRq5cn1ShwE83V
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>>>> This Medical device is still under development process and may 
>>>> still shift in the course of carrying out the project. It is not 
>>>> available yet. All information within this email or our website are 
>>>> provided for information purpose only.
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>>>> our website are proprietary information.
>>>> This email was sent to gmelconian619 at gmail.com You received this 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 14:27:39 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 08:27:39 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <eeec68f5.13ac.4b4e.ac04.fbd2dd097201@samobile.net>
References: <eeec68f5.13ac.4b4e.ac04.fbd2dd097201@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1c5f01d4cea8$983c8e40$c8b5aac0$@gmail.com>

It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for blind
people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a guarantee it
will be accessible.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
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I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that it is
an app and it would fit on my watch.
We shall see what happens in two years.

Original message:
> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional 
> medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending 
> us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or 
> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>                                 Jamie

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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 27 15:45:14 2019
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:45:14 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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Hey Bridget,

Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

Ed

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for blind
> people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a guarantee it
> will be accessible.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
> 
> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that it is
> an app and it would fit on my watch.
> We shall see what happens in two years.
> 
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>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional 
>> medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending 
>> us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or 
>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.
> 
>>                                Jamie
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>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/
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>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb 27 16:36:14 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:36:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <9378ae6c.ce7d.41e5.960f.d97f9b8e8e74@samobile.net>

Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far 
as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the 
time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for blind
>> people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a guarantee it
>> will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
>> via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that it is
>> an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional
>>> medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending
>>> us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





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>>> (type of diabetes, medical device...).


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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 17:21:53 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:21:53 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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I suspect this one might require a new watch, depending on whether they can create the function just using firmware, or whether they have to add a sensor not currently in the watch, meaning a hardware upgrade. I believe Apple will get the function checked out by the FDA as well, since they ran the electrocardiogram through FDA?s approval. This is all part of their making healthcare more accessible to everyone any time. And the app will come to you as part of an update of your Watch OS. 

Sandi


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I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that it 
is an app and it would fit on my watch.
We shall see what happens in two years.

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> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call functional 
> medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall them sending 
> us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing 
> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or 
> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>                                 Jamie

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 19:08:54 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 13:08:54 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
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>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
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>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





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From sheila.leigland at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 21:08:37 2019
From: sheila.leigland at gmail.com (Sheila)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:08:37 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it tracks blood glucose just might do it.

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Hey Bridget,

Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

Ed

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for blind 
> people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a guarantee 
> it will be accessible.
> 
> Bridgit
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> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
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> We shall see what happens in two years.
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>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or 
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 21:52:30 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:52:30 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something better that you needs comes along.

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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

Bridgit

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To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
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>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

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>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 22:10:16 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:10:16 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
 freestyle libre
Message-ID: <010601d4cee9$39735ab0$ac5a1010$@gmail.com>

Hello since I got in trouble the last time I forward a bit of info.this time
I am just going to give the info and then let bernadet  figure out what to
do with it.there  is a tech talk presentation on the freestyle libre
tonight.for those interested you can check it out.i don't know if she wants
I can forward the email I got but from  the last time I got flagged for
that.i will ask her before i forward stuff to the list from now on.  



From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb 27 22:19:41 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:19:41 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
 freestyle libre
Message-ID: <0001b0dc.6b26.4076.af31.659bd3271b2f@samobile.net>

I just got an email saying I can get a free style libre free fourteen 
day, after they see I have insurance to cover it.
Wonder how true these are.

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> tonight.for those interested you can check it out.i don't know if she wants
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 22:33:50 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:33:50 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple watch I would consider it as well.  

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Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it tracks blood glucose just might do it.

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Hey Bridget,

Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

Ed

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> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 22:37:27 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:37:27 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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I am in the same boat I have an I pad 4gen from 2013 which just got its last update with I o s 10.3.3. I use it for other things so I don?t mind as long as its working for you and does what you need to do no need to upgrade but if its not then you can afford the upgrade then upgrade.that's my policy on the matter.at this point I cant do any of that as I just purchased a new house and its going to cost most of my monthly funds so I will have to budget for a lot of things going forward with health, tech devices and etc.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something better that you needs comes along.

Sandi


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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

Bridgit

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Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
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>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Wed Feb 27 22:39:00 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:39:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <673fd713.ccaf.4d90.8ff4.f0bbc317c068@samobile.net>

Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would 
pay for the dex com.

I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

Original message:
> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple 
> watch I would consider it as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sheila <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it 
> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of ed 
> worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for blind
>> people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a guarantee
>> it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are 
>>> developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 22:49:27 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:49:27 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re hers the info on the freestyle libre
 presentation scheduled for tonight
Message-ID: <000001d4ceee$b22fea90$168fbfb0$@gmail.com>

Heres the info on the presentation being hosted by jeff bishop on the
freestyle libre.i  am posting it here and hoping that its ok with bernadet
our list moderator. 

 

 

 

Newswire:

 

Tek Talk welcomes Presenter Jeff Bishop to Discuss the Freestyle Libre
continuous glucose monitor, March 4, 2019. 

Time: 5:00 pm Pacific, 6:00 pm Mountain, 7:00 pm Central, 8:00 pm Eastern,
and elsewhere in the world Friday 01:00 GMT.

 

Hello,

Jeff Bishop is a familiar name in our community and has been the host of ACB
Radio's Main Menu technology program and still serves as a member of the
Main Menu team. Jeff can be heard on the iAccessibility series of podcasts
and is a board member of the American Council of the Blind and serves on
many committees within the organization. Jeff is also responsible for
programming ACB Radio's oldtime radio station Treasure Trove. Tonight Jeff
will be talking to us about the Freestyle Libre Continuous Glucose
Monitoring system. It is a breakthrough device for those of us that are
blind allowing us to test our bodies without using finger sticks. Jeff will
share his journey as a diabetic with all of you and his observations of
using this device. Come learn about tips and tricks on using the device and
get your questions answered. Jeff can be contacted by emailing
<mailto:jeff at jeffbishop.com> jeff at jeffbishop.com or by tweeting him at @Jeff
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 22:53:01 2019
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 14:53:01 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <673fd713.ccaf.4d90.8ff4.f0bbc317c068@samobile.net>
References: <673fd713.ccaf.4d90.8ff4.f0bbc317c068@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <003601d4ceef$31762940$94627bc0$@gmail.com>

You need to be  persistent with it.keep on calling them and keeping on top of things and that way you will get  what you need in life.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:39 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would pay for the dex com.

I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

Original message:
> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple 
> watch I would consider it as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sheila <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it 
> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of ed 
> worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they 
>>> are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 23:03:10 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:03:10 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <5c77069d.1c69fb81.986a4.1ab9@mx.google.com>
References: <9378ae6c.ce7d.41e5.960f.d97f9b8e8e74@samobile.net>	<1cf801d4cecf$e23e41b0$a6bac510$@gmail.com>
	<5c77069d.1c69fb81.986a4.1ab9@mx.google.com>
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I just mean that with each IOS upgrade, it takes up more total storeage on the device. Now that Apple is offering bigger GB on its devices, it's not as much of a problem. But everytime there's an IOS upgrade, regardless of how little apps you have or how many you add, it takes up a little more total storeage each time. But again, if you buy a device, as I do, with a larger amount of GB, it will last a lot longer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something better that you needs comes along.

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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:36 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 23:04:32 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:04:32 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
 freestyle libre
In-Reply-To: <010601d4cee9$39735ab0$ac5a1010$@gmail.com>
References: <010601d4cee9$39735ab0$ac5a1010$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1d9801d4cef0$cd2c9170$6785b450$@gmail.com>

I don't think you got in trouble. The email just came across a little weird
structurally, and there was no direct message from you. I think Bern and
others wanted to make sure you actually meant to send it and knew what it
was.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:10 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
freestyle libre

Hello since I got in trouble the last time I forward a bit of info.this time
I am just going to give the info and then let bernadet  figure out what to
do with it.there  is a tech talk presentation on the freestyle libre
tonight.for those interested you can check it out.i don't know if she wants
I can forward the email I got but from  the last time I got flagged for
that.i will ask her before i forward stuff to the list from now on.  

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 23:06:22 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:06:22 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
 freestyle libre
In-Reply-To: <0001b0dc.6b26.4076.af31.659bd3271b2f@samobile.net>
References: <0001b0dc.6b26.4076.af31.659bd3271b2f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1d9901d4cef1$0ecc0980$2c641c80$@gmail.com>

Dar,

It might be a promotional offer for anyone who hasn't used Libre before. You
might want to double check this. But 14 days isn't a very long time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:20 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
freestyle libre

I just got an email saying I can get a free style libre free fourteen day,
after they see I have insurance to cover it.
Wonder how true these are.

Original message:
> Hello since I got in trouble the last time I forward a bit of 
> info.this time I am just going to give the info and then let bernadet  
> figure out what to do with it.there  is a tech talk presentation on 
> the freestyle libre tonight.for those interested you can check it 
> out.i don't know if she wants I can forward the email I got but from  
> the last time I got flagged for that.i will ask her before i forward stuff
to the list from now on.

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 23:09:55 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:09:55 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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Does the iWatch not support the Dexcom app?  It just surprises me since iPhones and iPads do.

Dar, call as much as you can/want until you get answers. You're but one small fish in a very large pond, so your carrier is not thinking of a single person. Call and call until you have an answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:39 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would pay for the dex com.

I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

Original message:
> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple 
> watch I would consider it as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sheila <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it 
> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of ed 
> worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they 
>>> are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





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>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





























>>> We want to get to know you





>>> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you 
>>> may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your 
>>> experience and perceptions.


>>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your 
>>> expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your 
>>> profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).


>>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to 
>>> you by email.



>>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions 
>>> and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during 
>>> interviews with one of our team members.

>>> To share your experience with us, click here:















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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 23:16:05 2019
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:16:05 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <1d9a01d4cef1$8deaea10$a9c0be30$@gmail.com>
References: <673fd713.ccaf.4d90.8ff4.f0bbc317c068@samobile.net>
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I have Dexcom on my Apple watch.  Often, it shows three dashes, but I just have to tap on it to force it to get the data from my phone.  

				Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 5:10 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Does the iWatch not support the Dexcom app?  It just surprises me since iPhones and iPads do.

Dar, call as much as you can/want until you get answers. You're but one small fish in a very large pond, so your carrier is not thinking of a single person. Call and call until you have an answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would pay for the dex com.

I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

Original message:
> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple 
> watch I would consider it as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it 
> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of ed 
> worrell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
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>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall 
>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they 
>>> are developing
>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>                                Jamie

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 28 01:14:05 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:14:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <5f3c3ddb.eb9b.4bdb.aacb.cee104b3f61f@samobile.net>

I do well being gentle and just going back from time to time.
Waiting for folks to come back to me.
It is called patients.
There is still much I don't know.
The first down fall is the $300 a month that I wouldn't have.
This was why I wanted to know what I could find out.
As I was told at the office, it isn't up to them to figure it out, it 
is between me and the insurance.
Now maybe it was there there way of getting out of it, that is fine.
What goes around comes around.
Still want to meet the lady who washes her libre patch.
Smile.

Original message:
> You need to be  persistent with it.keep on calling them and keeping on 
> top of things and that way you will get  what you need in life.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
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> Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
> I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would 
> pay for the dex com.

> I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

> Original message:
>> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple
>> watch I would consider it as well.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
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>> Cc: Sheila <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it
>> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of ed
>> worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> Hey Bridget,

>> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in
>> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with
>> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have
>> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this
>> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a
>> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

>> Ed

>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for
>>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a
>>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know
>>> you

>>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that
>>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an
>>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call
>>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall
>>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they
>>>> are developing
>>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>>                                Jamie

>>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





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>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 28 01:18:44 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:18:44 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
 freestyle libre
Message-ID: <e5b53773.373b.4d40.aaf1.578503cb393f@samobile.net>

Yes the 14 day has two of the cencers in package that would take one 
threw the month.
Then you buy the next month.
That was how I understood it.

Original message:
> Dar,

> It might be a promotional offer for anyone who hasn't used Libre before. You
> might want to double check this. But 14 days isn't a very long time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
> via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:20 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
> freestyle libre

> I just got an email saying I can get a free style libre free fourteen day,
> after they see I have insurance to cover it.
> Wonder how true these are.

> Original message:
>> Hello since I got in trouble the last time I forward a bit of
>> info.this time I am just going to give the info and then let bernadet
>> figure out what to do with it.there  is a tech talk presentation on
>> the freestyle libre tonight.for those interested you can check it
>> out.i don't know if she wants I can forward the email I got but from
>> the last time I got flagged for that.i will ask her before i forward stuff
> to the list from now on.

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 28 01:21:51 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:21:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <075be112.e229.4180.931f.9a518581d43b@samobile.net>

Oh wow,
You still then need to read the message from phone, watch won't pick it up?
Interesting.

Original message:
> I have Dexcom on my Apple watch.  Often, it shows three dashes, but I 
> just have to tap on it to force it to get the data from my phone.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 5:10 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Does the iWatch not support the Dexcom app?  It just surprises me since 
> iPhones and iPads do.

> Dar, call as much as you can/want until you get answers. You're but one 
> small fish in a very large pond, so your carrier is not thinking of a 
> single person. Call and call until you have an answer.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
> I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would 
> pay for the dex com.

> I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

> Original message:
>> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple
>> watch I would consider it as well.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sheila <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it
>> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of ed
>> worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> Hey Bridget,

>> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in
>> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with
>> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have
>> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this
>> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a
>> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

>> Ed

>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for
>>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a
>>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know
>>> you

>>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that
>>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an
>>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call
>>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall
>>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they
>>>> are developing
>>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>>                                Jamie

>>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





>>>> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





























>>>> We want to get to know you





>>>> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you
>>>> may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your
>>>> experience and perceptions.


>>>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your
>>>> expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your
>>>> profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).


>>>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back to
>>>> you by email.



>>>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during discussions
>>>> and personalized questionnaires, either by email or during
>>>> interviews with one of our team members.

>>>> To share your experience with us, click here:















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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 02:45:13 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:45:13 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <5f3c3ddb.eb9b.4bdb.aacb.cee104b3f61f@samobile.net>
References: <5f3c3ddb.eb9b.4bdb.aacb.cee104b3f61f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1e0501d4cf0f$a1836930$e48a3b90$@gmail.com>

Dar,

They are not going to call you back. Trust me. Once you hung up, they forgot. You need to call until you get an answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:14 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

I do well being gentle and just going back from time to time.
Waiting for folks to come back to me.
It is called patients.
There is still much I don't know.
The first down fall is the $300 a month that I wouldn't have.
This was why I wanted to know what I could find out.
As I was told at the office, it isn't up to them to figure it out, it is between me and the insurance.
Now maybe it was there there way of getting out of it, that is fine.
What goes around comes around.
Still want to meet the lady who washes her libre patch.
Smile.

Original message:
> You need to be  persistent with it.keep on calling them and keeping on 
> top of things and that way you will get  what you need in life.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Yes that would be good, to have that in the watch as well.
> I still haven't heard from anyone from humana on how much they would 
> pay for the dex com.

> I don't know how patient I need to be, or if I should keep calling.

> Original message:
>> I would do the same thing.if we could get a dexcom cgm in our apple 
>> watch I would consider it as well.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Sheila via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:09 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sheila <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> Very interesting I don't have an apple watch but you never know if it 
>> tracks blood glucose just might do it.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:45 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

>> Hey Bridget,

>> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
>> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating 
>> with glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they 
>> have recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So 
>> this means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s 
>> just a matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

>> Ed

>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>>> you

>>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also 
>>>> recall them sending us information to become beta testers for a 
>>>> watch they are developing
>>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>>                                Jamie

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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 02:46:34 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:46:34 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
 freestyle libre
In-Reply-To: <e5b53773.373b.4d40.aaf1.578503cb393f@samobile.net>
References: <e5b53773.373b.4d40.aaf1.578503cb393f@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1e0601d4cf0f$d2523910$76f6ab30$@gmail.com>

But it's likely a promotion for people who have never used Libre before. It
probably doesn't apply to former patients, especially those who recently had
it. You would need to check and specifically ask that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina
via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:19 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech talk on
freestyle libre

Yes the 14 day has two of the cencers in package that would take one threw
the month.
Then you buy the next month.
That was how I understood it.

Original message:
> Dar,

> It might be a promotional offer for anyone who hasn't used Libre 
> before. You might want to double check this. But 14 days isn't a very long
time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:20 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re there will be a presentation on tech 
> talk on freestyle libre

> I just got an email saying I can get a free style libre free fourteen 
> day, after they see I have insurance to cover it.
> Wonder how true these are.

> Original message:
>> Hello since I got in trouble the last time I forward a bit of 
>> info.this time I am just going to give the info and then let bernadet 
>> figure out what to do with it.there  is a tech talk presentation on 
>> the freestyle libre tonight.for those interested you can check it 
>> out.i don't know if she wants I can forward the email I got but from 
>> the last time I got flagged for that.i will ask her before i forward 
>> stuff
> to the list from now on.

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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 12:37:47 2019
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:37:47 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re hers the info on the freestyle libre
 presentation scheduled for tonight
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Thanks a bunch Gary!  I plan on checking in there myself.  I?ve gotten a lot of calls asking about it.  But, being a Dexcom user and not having any personal experience with the Livre, it can?t hurt to plug in and ask questions.

ZI didn?t know about this other outfit.  Hadn?t heard of it and after seeing that others had, makes me feel better about the whole thing.  The thing that made me skiddish is that someone else had personally sent me a strange criptic message and then claimed it was a scam.

Have a great day.

Bern



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 5:49 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Heres the info on the presentation being hosted by jeff bishop on the
> freestyle libre.i  am posting it here and hoping that its ok with bernadet
> our list moderator. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Newswire:
> 
> 
> 
> Tek Talk welcomes Presenter Jeff Bishop to Discuss the Freestyle Libre
> continuous glucose monitor, March 4, 2019. 
> 
> Time: 5:00 pm Pacific, 6:00 pm Mountain, 7:00 pm Central, 8:00 pm Eastern,
> and elsewhere in the world Friday 01:00 GMT.
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Jeff Bishop is a familiar name in our community and has been the host of ACB
> Radio's Main Menu technology program and still serves as a member of the
> Main Menu team. Jeff can be heard on the iAccessibility series of podcasts
> and is a board member of the American Council of the Blind and serves on
> many committees within the organization. Jeff is also responsible for
> programming ACB Radio's oldtime radio station Treasure Trove. Tonight Jeff
> will be talking to us about the Freestyle Libre Continuous Glucose
> Monitoring system. It is a breakthrough device for those of us that are
> blind allowing us to test our bodies without using finger sticks. Jeff will
> share his journey as a diabetic with all of you and his observations of
> using this device. Come learn about tips and tricks on using the device and
> get your questions answered. Jeff can be contacted by emailing
> <mailto:jeff at jeffbishop.com> jeff at jeffbishop.com or by tweeting him at @Jeff
> Bishop.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Zoom invitation
> 
> 
> 
> The Zoom meeting invitation for this Training Class is the following:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> 
> 
> Robert Acosta is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
> 
> 
> 
> Tek Talk Welcomes Jeff Bishop to discuss the Freestyle Libre, a device for
> blind diabetics.
> 
> Time: Meets Monday, March 4, 2019, from 8-9 p.m. Eastern. 
> 
> 
> 
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From deniserob at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 13:30:28 2019
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 08:30:28 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Lester please email me
Message-ID: <CAAxsd_5ePX-G=OJ1nRWJCO2UtMZkpM8_28oCq2135fbUxawBkA@mail.gmail.com>

This is about the Diabetes call on first Thursday

* Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
Impaired
425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com

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From underdogmj at comcast.net  Thu Feb 28 13:59:32 2019
From: underdogmj at comcast.net (underdogmj at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 08:59:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Lester please email me
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hello Miss Robinson 
It is Mr Lester how can I help you 
If you have my phone Please call me any time 
thank you 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:30 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Lester please email me

This is about the Diabetes call on first Thursday

* Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com

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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Thu Feb 28 15:02:14 2019
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:02:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
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	<1d9701d4cef0$9d1d4100$d757c300$@gmail.com>
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My husband and I have 250 gb and have had no problems. Bridgit is right. If you want to keep stuff on your watch and not upgrade right now, you can always delete the apps from your watch that you don't need and create space. I don't think you can put sugar stuff on the first generation watch, but check with apple as they will know which watch you should upgrade to.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

I just mean that with each IOS upgrade, it takes up more total storeage on the device. Now that Apple is offering bigger GB on its devices, it's not as much of a problem. But everytime there's an IOS upgrade, regardless of how little apps you have or how many you add, it takes up a little more total storeage each time. But again, if you buy a device, as I do, with a larger amount of GB, it will last a lot longer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something better that you needs comes along.

Sandi


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:36 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>> Original message:
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>>>                                Jamie

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>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 15:55:16 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:55:16 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <001501d4cf76$970d9f90$c528deb0$@comcast.net>
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Also, a little info that my husband and I just discovered. For those who use the Facebook app, for some reason, it grows and grows, taking up more and more storeage on your device; if you find your total gigs are low, delete and redownload the Facebook app, and it will go back to a lower GB. Not sure why this happens, but we recently found this out. On my husband's iPhone, it was taking up an ungodly amount of gigs, so, he was advised to redownload it, and sure enough, it went back to a lower gig. Not sure how many here use the FB app, but something to keep in mind.

My husband and I recently upgraded to iPhone 10s and went with 128 GBs each. I don't usually run out of storeage as soon as he does, but it's worth a bigger GB if you can, especially if you take a lot of pics and videos, which we do in addition to using apps.

Older gens of Apple devices might not support more recent apps, so you would want to check with Apple and/or the app to make sure. Unfortunately, it's at a point where more and more apps are not supported for older versions of Apple devices.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

My husband and I have 250 gb and have had no problems. Bridgit is right. If you want to keep stuff on your watch and not upgrade right now, you can always delete the apps from your watch that you don't need and create space. I don't think you can put sugar stuff on the first generation watch, but check with apple as they will know which watch you should upgrade to.

Jeanette

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

I just mean that with each IOS upgrade, it takes up more total storeage on the device. Now that Apple is offering bigger GB on its devices, it's not as much of a problem. But everytime there's an IOS upgrade, regardless of how little apps you have or how many you add, it takes up a little more total storeage each time. But again, if you buy a device, as I do, with a larger amount of GB, it will last a lot longer.

Bridgit

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Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something better that you needs comes along.

Sandi


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With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

Bridgit

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Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far as some of the other products out there now.
The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

Original message:
> Hey Bridget,

> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with 
> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have 
> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this 
> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a 
> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

> Ed

>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>> Bridgit

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>> you

>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>> We shall see what happens in two years.

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From dmgina at mysero.net  Thu Feb 28 16:04:38 2019
From: dmgina at mysero.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 11:04:38 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
Message-ID: <993079b0.2a32.49c6.a064.e3c74041b9e2@samobile.net>

I am on the four I think it is.
Has the heart rate and measures if you get to high anything like that.

Original message:
> My husband and I have 250 gb and have had no problems. Bridgit is 
> right. If you want to keep stuff on your watch and not upgrade right 
> now, you can always delete the apps from your watch that you don't need 
> and create space. I don't think you can put sugar stuff on the first 
> generation watch, but check with apple as they will know which watch 
> you should upgrade to.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:03 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> I just mean that with each IOS upgrade, it takes up more total storeage 
> on the device. Now that Apple is offering bigger GB on its devices, 
> it's not as much of a problem. But everytime there's an IOS upgrade, 
> regardless of how little apps you have or how many you add, it takes up 
> a little more total storeage each time. But again, if you buy a device, 
> as I do, with a larger amount of GB, it will last a lot longer.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
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> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:53 PM
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> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it 
> didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data 
> generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first 
> generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until 
> just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the 
> software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for 
> example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that 
> now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s 
> products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you 
> can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will 
> require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, 
> unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all 
> of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something 
> better that you needs comes along.

> Sandi


> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but 
> after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, 
> which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, 
> sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, 
> but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how 
> IOS upgrades and storeage work.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:36 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
> We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
> It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far 
> as some of the other products out there now.
> The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the 
> time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
> I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

> Original message:
>> Hey Bridget,

>> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in
>> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with
>> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have
>> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this
>> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a
>> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

>> Ed

>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for
>>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a
>>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
>>> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know
>>> you

>>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that
>>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an
>>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call
>>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall
>>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are 
>>>> developing
>>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>>                                Jamie

>>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 16:59:43 2019
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:59:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <993079b0.2a32.49c6.a064.e3c74041b9e2@samobile.net>
References: <993079b0.2a32.49c6.a064.e3c74041b9e2@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <1e7b01d4cf87$013b11d0$03b13570$@gmail.com>

Which device? Apple Watch? iPhone, iPad?

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:05 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

I am on the four I think it is.
Has the heart rate and measures if you get to high anything like that.

Original message:
> My husband and I have 250 gb and have had no problems. Bridgit is 
> right. If you want to keep stuff on your watch and not upgrade right 
> now, you can always delete the apps from your watch that you don't 
> need and create space. I don't think you can put sugar stuff on the 
> first generation watch, but check with apple as they will know which 
> watch you should upgrade to.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:03 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> I just mean that with each IOS upgrade, it takes up more total 
> storeage on the device. Now that Apple is offering bigger GB on its 
> devices, it's not as much of a problem. But everytime there's an IOS 
> upgrade, regardless of how little apps you have or how many you add, 
> it takes up a little more total storeage each time. But again, if you 
> buy a device, as I do, with a larger amount of GB, it will last a lot longer.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:53 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that 
> it didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data 
> generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first 
> generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until 
> just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the 
> software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for 
> example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that 
> now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s 
> products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you 
> can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will 
> require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, 
> unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all 
> of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something 
> better that you needs comes along.

> Sandi


> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, 
> but after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less 
> storeage, which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer 
> device. So, sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an 
> Apple meter, but you will still eventually need to buy a new device 
> because of how IOS upgrades and storeage work.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d 
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:36 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
> We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
> It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as 
> far as some of the other products out there now.
> The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the 
> time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
> I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

> Original message:
>> Hey Bridget,

>> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in 
>> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating 
>> with glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they 
>> have recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So 
>> this means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s 
>> just a matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

>> Ed

>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for 
>>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a 
>>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know 
>>> you

>>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that 
>>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an 
>>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call 
>>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also 
>>>> recall them sending us information to become beta testers for a 
>>>> watch they are developing
>>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>>                                Jamie

>>>> http://premiermedgroup.org/locations/peak-vitality/

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





>>>> From: PKvitality team <social at PKvitality.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:01 AM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: PKvitality: We want to get to know you





























>>>> We want to get to know you





>>>> In order to better understand your situation and the challenges you 
>>>> may face on a daily basis, we would like to know more about your 
>>>> experience and perceptions.


>>>> In the aim of developing a product that perfectly meets your 
>>>> expectations, we would like to ask you questions based on your 
>>>> profile (type of diabetes, medical device...).


>>>> If you would like to tell us more, we would be happy to come back 
>>>> to you by email.



>>>> You will have the opportunity to express yourself during 
>>>> discussions and personalized questionnaires, either by email or 
>>>> during interviews with one of our team members.

>>>> To share your experience with us, click here:















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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 19:39:26 2019
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:39:26 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you
In-Reply-To: <993079b0.2a32.49c6.a064.e3c74041b9e2@samobile.net>
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You can use your Dexcom app with the 4. As for testing blood with a watch, that?s not available, so will probably mean a new one.

Sandi


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From: d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:06 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

I am on the four I think it is.
Has the heart rate and measures if you get to high anything like that.

Original message:
> My husband and I have 250 gb and have had no problems. Bridgit is 
> right. If you want to keep stuff on your watch and not upgrade right 
> now, you can always delete the apps from your watch that you don't need 
> and create space. I don't think you can put sugar stuff on the first 
> generation watch, but check with apple as they will know which watch 
> you should upgrade to.

> Jeanette

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:03 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> I just mean that with each IOS upgrade, it takes up more total storeage 
> on the device. Now that Apple is offering bigger GB on its devices, 
> it's not as much of a problem. But everytime there's an IOS upgrade, 
> regardless of how little apps you have or how many you add, it takes up 
> a little more total storeage each time. But again, if you buy a device, 
> as I do, with a larger amount of GB, it will last a lot longer.

> Bridgit

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> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> sandi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:53 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> Or you could store your data in the Health app on your phone so that it 
> didn?t build up in the watch so much. And each little piece of data 
> generated takes very tiny space. I had an Apple Watch of the first 
> generation from before they were available in the Apple Store until 
> just after Christmas, and it was still updating to new versions of the 
> software. It didn?t do certain things that were hardware changes?for 
> example, I couldn?t lock it and swim with it on?but I?m not doing that 
> now, either. There are frequently newer versions of all Apple?s 
> products, but as long as the one you have is working well for you, you 
> can keep it. I suspect that the one that tests blood glucose will 
> require a new version for that feature to work. But once you have it, 
> unless you go crazy and put every app you own on the watch and use all 
> of them, you won?t need to upgrade to another version until something 
> better that you needs comes along.

> Sandi


> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] PKvitality: We want to get to know you

> With Apple products, you don't buy a new device with every upgrade, but 
> after so many IOS upgrades, your device has less and less storeage, 
> which is why every few years we need to purchase a newer device. So, 
> sure, with IOS upgrades, you will upgrade the app for an Apple meter, 
> but you will still eventually need to buy a new device because of how 
> IOS upgrades and storeage work.

> Bridgit

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> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m 
> gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:36 AM
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> Wow did you come from under a snow bank?
> We haven't heard from you in quite aspell.
> It would be nice if the watch could tell you when you have a low as far 
> as some of the other products out there now.
> The way I was told, was that instead of buying a new watch all of the 
> time for the upgrades, just down load the app.
> I hope the gentleman I spoke with knows what he is talking about.

> Original message:
>> Hey Bridget,

>> Actually because it?s on an Apple product and made by Apple does in
>> fact mean it will be accessible. The watch that Apple is creating with
>> glucose tracking is in very early testing internally, and they have
>> recently updated patents for the glucose tracking features. So this
>> means it is being actively worked on by Apple engineers. It?s just a
>> matter of time before we know more info about what it can do.

>> Ed

>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
>>> Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> It also depends on how accurate it is and if it's accessible for
>>> blind people. Just because it will be on an Apple product isn't a
>>> guarantee it will be accessible.

>>> Bridgit

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>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] FW: PKvitality: We want to get to know
>>> you

>>> I understand that apple will come up with a watch that will test sugars.
>>> I am also told that I don't need to buy a new watch every time, that
>>> it is an app and it would fit on my watch.
>>> We shall see what happens in two years.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all!  I'm not sure why they contacted the list, but they are an
>>>> actual medical facility.  They specialize in what they call
>>>> functional medicine.  Here is the link to their site.  I also recall
>>>> them sending us information to become beta testers for a watch they are 
>>>> developing
>>>> that tests your blood sugar.    I thought that they were from Sweden or
>>>> some other country in Europe though.  So, spam?  I'm not quite sure.

>>>>                                Jamie

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>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:40 AM
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From walemly at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 22:12:31 2019
From: walemly at gmail.com (Alan Lemly)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 16:12:31 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Tek Talk presentation by Jeff Bishop on Freestyle
 Libre scheduled for 3/4/19 at 8pm Eastern was Re: re hers the info on the
 freestyle libre presentation scheduled for tonight
Message-ID: <001801d4cfb2$b3db2980$1b917c80$@gmail.com>

Hi List,

 

The previous subject line on Jeff Bishop's presentation on Tek Talk about the Freestyle Libre was a bit misleading about when the meeting takes place. The meeting is Monday 3/4/19 at 8pm Eastern and here's the Zoom meeting info:

 

The Zoom meeting invitation for this Training Class is the following:

 

Hi there,

Robert Acosta is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Tek Talk Welcomes Jeff Bishop to discuss the Freestyle Libre, a device for blind diabetics.

Time: Meets Monday, March 4, 2019, from 8-9 p.m. Eastern. 

 

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/839935813 

 

Or iPhone one-tap:

US: +16468769923,839935813# or +14086380986,839935813#

Or Telephone:

Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):

US: +1 646 876 9923 or +1 408 638 0986

Meeting ID: 839 935 813

International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/cnnUjZ1oh 

 

If you execute the above link from a computer with installed Zoom client software, the software should automatically launch and take you to the meeting. If you execute the above link from a smart device containing the Zoom Cloud Meetings app, the app should automatically launch ant take you to the meeting. If you prefer to use your iPhone as a regular phone without the app to call into the meeting, you can double tap on one of the above two numbers to initiate the call.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 6:38 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re hers the info on the freestyle libre presentation scheduled for tonight

 

Thanks a bunch Gary!  I plan on checking in there myself.  I ve gotten a lot of calls asking about it.  But, being a Dexcom user and not having any personal experience with the Livre, it can t hurt to plug in and ask questions.

 

ZI didn t know about this other outfit.  Hadn t heard of it and after seeing that others had, makes me feel better about the whole thing.  The thing that made me skiddish is that someone else had personally sent me a strange criptic message and then claimed it was a scam.

 

Have a great day.

 

Bern

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 5:49 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk < <mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> 

> Heres the info on the presentation being hosted by jeff bishop on the 

> freestyle libre.i  am posting it here and hoping that its ok with 

> bernadet our list moderator.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Newswire:

> 

> 

> 

> Tek Talk welcomes Presenter Jeff Bishop to Discuss the Freestyle Libre 

> continuous glucose monitor, March 4, 2019.

> 

> Time: 5:00 pm Pacific, 6:00 pm Mountain, 7:00 pm Central, 8:00 pm 

> Eastern, and elsewhere in the world Friday 01:00 GMT.

> 

> 

> 

> Hello,

> 

> Jeff Bishop is a familiar name in our community and has been the host 

> of ACB Radio's Main Menu technology program and still serves as a 

> member of the Main Menu team. Jeff can be heard on the iAccessibility 

> series of podcasts and is a board member of the American Council of 

> the Blind and serves on many committees within the organization. Jeff 

> is also responsible for programming ACB Radio's oldtime radio station 

> Treasure Trove. Tonight Jeff will be talking to us about the Freestyle 

> Libre Continuous Glucose Monitoring system. It is a breakthrough 

> device for those of us that are blind allowing us to test our bodies 

> without using finger sticks. Jeff will share his journey as a diabetic 

> with all of you and his observations of using this device. Come learn 

> about tips and tricks on using the device and get your questions 

> answered. Jeff can be contacted by emailing 

> < <mailto:jeff at jeffbishop.com> mailto:jeff at jeffbishop.com>  <mailto:jeff at jeffbishop.com> jeff at jeffbishop.com or by tweeting him at @Jeff Bishop.

> 

> About 10 minutes before the program dial the Zoom numbers or work with 

> your computer link found on your Zoom invitation.

> 

> 

> 

> Zoom invitation

> 

> 

> 

> The Zoom meeting invitation for this Training Class is the following:

> 

> 

> 

> Hi there,

> 

> 

> 

> Robert Acosta is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

> 

> 

> 

> Tek Talk Welcomes Jeff Bishop to discuss the Freestyle Libre, a device 

> for blind diabetics.

> 

> Time: Meets Monday, March 4, 2019, from 8-9 p.m. Eastern. 

> 

> 

> 

> Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:  

> < <https://zoom.us/j/839935813> https://zoom.us/j/839935813>

>  <https://zoom.us/j/839935813> https://zoom.us/j/839935813

> 

> 

> 

> Or iPhone one-tap:

> 

> US: +16468769923,839935813# or +14086380986,839935813#

> 

> 

> 

> Or Telephone:

> 

> Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):

> 

> US: +1 646 876 9923 or +1 408 638 0986

> 

> 

> 

> Meeting ID: 839 935 813

> 

> 

> 

> International numbers available:  < <https://zoom.us/u/cnnUjZ1oh> https://zoom.us/u/cnnUjZ1oh> 

>  <https://zoom.us/u/cnnUjZ1oh> https://zoom.us/u/cnnUjZ1oh

> 

> 

> 

> If you execute the above link from a computer with installed Zoom 

> client software, the software should automatically launch and take you 

> to the meeting. If you execute the above link from a smart device 

> containing the Zoom Cloud Meetings app, the app should automatically 

> launch ant take you to the meeting. If you prefer to use your iPhone 

> as a regular phone without the app to call into the meeting, you can 

> double tap on one of the above two numbers to initiate the call.

> 

> 

> 

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