From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Oct  1 21:33:19 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:33:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
Message-ID: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> 
Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing
some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407






From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 21:49:22 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:49:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <012801d459d0$a2f21230$e8d63690$@gmail.com>

Veronica , your not the only one.i just got a 25% increase in my insurance
which means that i wont be able to afford anything as far as these health
saving devices goes. Your not the only angry one . guess I will have to
figure a way to hav dexcom.even if it means looking around for older dexcom
model on ebay an  bidding on them and hopefully winning those bids on the
dexcom products.  




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 21:48:50 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:48:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>

Wow, that's crazy. Having been on Medicare for years, with some of those
years having a better primary provider, I can say Medicare sucks. I guess
it's better than nothing, but, seriously...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 21:55:00 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:55:00 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <013001d459d1$6d4dd000$47e97000$@gmail.com>

Gguys and gals your not the only ones.even being on private insurance I cant
get dexcom to work  with my insurance provider.they are charging  outrageous
co payment for dexcom supplies.if that was  not  bad enough I just got a 25%
increase on my insurance payments for next year.so I am also angry and mad
at these insurance providers.they are making us sick and then over charging
us for coverage . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Wow, that's crazy. Having been on Medicare for years, with some of those
years having a better primary provider, I can say Medicare sucks. I guess
it's better than nothing, but, seriously...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Oct  1 22:03:34 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 15:03:34 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <013001d459d1$6d4dd000$47e97000$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>
	<013001d459d1$6d4dd000$47e97000$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d459d2$993fb380$cbbf1a80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

You know, I'd like to do a flash mob thing in front of Congress in order to
make them understand that spending some money on preventative care, such as
Dexcom and whatever we need, will ultimately save a boatload of money by
keeping us out of hospitals, less likely to experience severe complications,
etc. And on top of that, I want to see the health care plan our congress
gets. I think they should have to use Medicare. But there we go, back to if
I ran the world. <grin> 
And the thing is, with my husband's retirement plan, if I decide to not use
this supplemental plan, I can never come back to it. So that's not really an
option. So, attention insurance companies. Keep this up and you'll be paying
for blood pressure meds for me. <grin>
Now I have to start the process of reauthorization for my rheumatoid
arthritis medication. Sheesh! Am I the only one who fights the urge to just
go eat junk whenever I'm fighting a battle over diabetes care I think I
should get? Hope not. I'm resisting, I'm resisting.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 2:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Gguys and gals your not the only ones.even being on private insurance I cant
get dexcom to work  with my insurance provider.they are charging  outrageous
co payment for dexcom supplies.if that was  not  bad enough I just got a 25%
increase on my insurance payments for next year.so I am also angry and mad
at these insurance providers.they are making us sick and then over charging
us for coverage . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Wow, that's crazy. Having been on Medicare for years, with some of those
years having a better primary provider, I can say Medicare sucks. I guess
it's better than nothing, but, seriously...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 22:08:38 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 15:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <000001d459d2$993fb380$cbbf1a80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>	<013001d459d1$6d4dd000$47e97000$@gmail.com>
	<000001d459d2$993fb380$cbbf1a80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <015301d459d3$53e97f90$fbbc7eb0$@gmail.com>

Founda few dexcom g5 units for a good price on ebay .i bought them to keep
me at least on dexcom till I can find the dexcom g6 units on ebay. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 3:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

You know, I'd like to do a flash mob thing in front of Congress in order to
make them understand that spending some money on preventative care, such as
Dexcom and whatever we need, will ultimately save a boatload of money by
keeping us out of hospitals, less likely to experience severe complications,
etc. And on top of that, I want to see the health care plan our congress
gets. I think they should have to use Medicare. But there we go, back to if
I ran the world. <grin> And the thing is, with my husband's retirement plan,
if I decide to not use this supplemental plan, I can never come back to it.
So that's not really an option. So, attention insurance companies. Keep this
up and you'll be paying for blood pressure meds for me. <grin> Now I have to
start the process of reauthorization for my rheumatoid arthritis medication.
Sheesh! Am I the only one who fights the urge to just go eat junk whenever
I'm fighting a battle over diabetes care I think I should get? Hope not. I'm
resisting, I'm resisting.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 2:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Gguys and gals your not the only ones.even being on private insurance I cant
get dexcom to work  with my insurance provider.they are charging  outrageous
co payment for dexcom supplies.if that was  not  bad enough I just got a 25%
increase on my insurance payments for next year.so I am also angry and mad
at these insurance providers.they are making us sick and then over charging
us for coverage . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Wow, that's crazy. Having been on Medicare for years, with some of those
years having a better primary provider, I can say Medicare sucks. I guess
it's better than nothing, but, seriously...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 23:54:37 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:54:37 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <000001d459d2$993fb380$cbbf1a80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>	<013001d459d1$6d4dd000$47e97000$@gmail.com>
	<000001d459d2$993fb380$cbbf1a80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <008101d459e2$1cf13dc0$56d3b940$@gmail.com>

Love it. You know, it's like fifor MRIs breast cancer. Many insurance
providers still refuse to cover them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

You know, I'd like to do a flash mob thing in front of Congress in order to
make them understand that spending some money on preventative care, such as
Dexcom and whatever we need, will ultimately save a boatload of money by
keeping us out of hospitals, less likely to experience severe complications,
etc. And on top of that, I want to see the health care plan our congress
gets. I think they should have to use Medicare. But there we go, back to if
I ran the world. <grin> And the thing is, with my husband's retirement plan,
if I decide to not use this supplemental plan, I can never come back to it.
So that's not really an option. So, attention insurance companies. Keep this
up and you'll be paying for blood pressure meds for me. <grin> Now I have to
start the process of reauthorization for my rheumatoid arthritis medication.
Sheesh! Am I the only one who fights the urge to just go eat junk whenever
I'm fighting a battle over diabetes care I think I should get? Hope not. I'm
resisting, I'm resisting.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 2:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Gguys and gals your not the only ones.even being on private insurance I cant
get dexcom to work  with my insurance provider.they are charging  outrageous
co payment for dexcom supplies.if that was  not  bad enough I just got a 25%
increase on my insurance payments for next year.so I am also angry and mad
at these insurance providers.they are making us sick and then over charging
us for coverage . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Wow, that's crazy. Having been on Medicare for years, with some of those
years having a better primary provider, I can say Medicare sucks. I guess
it's better than nothing, but, seriously...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Oct  2 00:50:58 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:50:58 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <008101d459e2$1cf13dc0$56d3b940$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<02f401d459d0$8a9de420$9fd9ac60$@gmail.com>	<013001d459d1$6d4dd000$47e97000$@gmail.com>	<000001d459d2$993fb380$cbbf1a80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<008101d459e2$1cf13dc0$56d3b940$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001401d459e9$fbfb7600$f3f26200$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Okay, did some more research and according to Abbott, the iPhone app that
works with the FreeStyle Libre, which is called LibreLink is not yet
available in the US. It also doesn't show up in the app store. So that's the
info I've found on that one so far.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 4:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Love it. You know, it's like fifor MRIs breast cancer. Many insurance
providers still refuse to cover them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

You know, I'd like to do a flash mob thing in front of Congress in order to
make them understand that spending some money on preventative care, such as
Dexcom and whatever we need, will ultimately save a boatload of money by
keeping us out of hospitals, less likely to experience severe complications,
etc. And on top of that, I want to see the health care plan our congress
gets. I think they should have to use Medicare. But there we go, back to if
I ran the world. <grin> And the thing is, with my husband's retirement plan,
if I decide to not use this supplemental plan, I can never come back to it.
So that's not really an option. So, attention insurance companies. Keep this
up and you'll be paying for blood pressure meds for me. <grin> Now I have to
start the process of reauthorization for my rheumatoid arthritis medication.
Sheesh! Am I the only one who fights the urge to just go eat junk whenever
I'm fighting a battle over diabetes care I think I should get? Hope not. I'm
resisting, I'm resisting.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 2:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Gguys and gals your not the only ones.even being on private insurance I cant
get dexcom to work  with my insurance provider.they are charging  outrageous
co payment for dexcom supplies.if that was  not  bad enough I just got a 25%
increase on my insurance payments for next year.so I am also angry and mad
at these insurance providers.they are making us sick and then over charging
us for coverage . 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Wow, that's crazy. Having been on Medicare for years, with some of those
years having a better primary provider, I can say Medicare sucks. I guess
it's better than nothing, but, seriously...

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either. 
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From airadil at dslextreme.com  Tue Oct  2 01:03:49 2018
From: airadil at dslextreme.com (Estelnalissi)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:03:49 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I 
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their 
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a 
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me 
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until 
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable 
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the 
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and 
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast 
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a 
day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it 
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling 
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating 
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute 
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a 
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef, 
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a 
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions 
than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone 
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with 
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin>
Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing
some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Oct  2 02:40:55 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:40:55 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Lissi, I too struggled with my testing routine because as someone who has
trouble getting enough blood, I was not very successful at testing when I
was away from home. With the G6, I do a test or two on the first day until I
see that it is warmed up and matching my meter. Then, frankly, I don't test
again until 10 days later when I insert the next sensor. After three months
of doing this, now when I actually do a finger stick, I'm pretty amazed at
how easily I get blood. And yes, you can see exactly what is happening with
your glucose levels when you eat and exercise. I was surprised at how many
foods made my readings jump right after eating, but then really drop two
hours later. I've learned a lot about what and when to eat and how to manage
my insulin to match what I'm doing. I sure wish I'd had this 30 years ago,
okay, 25. I might have been a bit overwhelmed at first. <grin> 
But the people at Dexcom told me that it could be as soon as November, just
no way to know. I just hope they don't stick something stupid in the
contract that messes up us using it. My plan is just to keep calling. After
all, if I self-pay, nobody can tell me when to order the next batch, right?
Hang in there and here's hoping Medicare gets its act together soon.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 6:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I 
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their 
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a 
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me 
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until 
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable 
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the 
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and 
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast 
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a

day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it 
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling 
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating 
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute 
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a 
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef, 
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a 
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions

than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone 
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with 
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin>
Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing
some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 03:04:20 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 20:04:20 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
	<001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <002701d459fc$9e69ee00$db3dca00$@gmail.com>

Veronica do keep us posted. I don't  know what will happen in my case as
well. 




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 03:03:51 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 22:03:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <007d01d459fc$8c39b5d0$a4ad2170$@gmail.com>

Perhaps I'm not understanding what you mean, and I apologize if this is
correct, but, you can't make up for eating carbs by eating more protein
later in a day. Carbs raise glucose levels, and only insulin, either given
naturally from the body, or via injections, can lower glucose levels.
Protein helps stabilize glucose levels but will not lower them.

This is why low-carb diets are recommended for diabetics. And certain carbs
can affect blood sugars more than other types. And, it depends on the
person. Sugar doesn't affect mine as much as pasta does. But, a friend of
mine eats a candy bar and has to take extra the amount in a bolus. I'm also
very sensitive to insulin, and I knew a woman once who had to take about 300
mls of insulin in a single day, every day because she was more insulin
resistant. It all depends. But, CGMs are helping us with a lot of this
stuff.

The only true way to control diabetes is frequent testing, whether type 1 or
type 2, but, it's even more vital for type ones. CGMs are amazing because
they not only test us frequently enough, but, they show in real-time what
carbs do to our blood sugars.

Unfortunately, insurance providers don't get this.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 8:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Estelnalissi <airadil at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a
day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef,
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions
than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Oct  2 03:55:49 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 23:55:49 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
	<001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <7EE3C042588C4AECA491A062F593F4DE@eileen>

Veronica,

This sounds so great ... only testing every 10 days! I?m so tired of sticking my fingers and having trouble getting a decent sample and questioning the accuracy of this horrible Prodigy meter on top of it. I pray that Medicare will approve the Dexcom and the 6 for us to use.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 10:40 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Lissi, I too struggled with my testing routine because as someone who has
trouble getting enough blood, I was not very successful at testing when I
was away from home. With the G6, I do a test or two on the first day until I
see that it is warmed up and matching my meter. Then, frankly, I don't test
again until 10 days later when I insert the next sensor. After three months
of doing this, now when I actually do a finger stick, I'm pretty amazed at
how easily I get blood. And yes, you can see exactly what is happening with
your glucose levels when you eat and exercise. I was surprised at how many
foods made my readings jump right after eating, but then really drop two
hours later. I've learned a lot about what and when to eat and how to manage
my insulin to match what I'm doing. I sure wish I'd had this 30 years ago,
okay, 25. I might have been a bit overwhelmed at first. <grin> 
But the people at Dexcom told me that it could be as soon as November, just
no way to know. I just hope they don't stick something stupid in the
contract that messes up us using it. My plan is just to keep calling. After
all, if I self-pay, nobody can tell me when to order the next batch, right?
Hang in there and here's hoping Medicare gets its act together soon.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 6:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I 
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their 
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a 
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me 
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until 
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable 
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the 
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and 
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast 
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a

day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it 
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling 
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating 
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute 
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a 
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef, 
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a 
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions

than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone 
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with 
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin>
Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing
some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From airadil at dslextreme.com  Tue Oct  2 07:19:51 2018
From: airadil at dslextreme.com (Estelnalissi)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 03:19:51 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>
	<001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <9957098533E54326A7CD2ED490D0CC0E@OwnerPC>

Dear Veronica and Bridget,

Veronica, every word of encouragement is a help. Thank you for your 
patience.

Bridget, I appreciate your explanation though I knew protein doesn't lower 
glucose. I would eat mostly protein after eating too many carbs in the hope 
that if I deleted most carbs for a day it would give insulin enough time to 
cope with my carb overdose. I hesitate to write about my poor habits. I'm 
sure no one here would mistake my confidences as suggestions for good 
control. I may be the only one on the list who struggles with diet 
compliance . If so, I hope something will work its way on to the list that 
might nudge me in a better direction. If not, then others here who might be 
too embarrassed to admit their struggles might learn from the responses I 
get for the many of you with such admirable maintenance.

Always with love,

Lissi


-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 10:40 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Lissi, I too struggled with my testing routine because as someone who has
trouble getting enough blood, I was not very successful at testing when I
was away from home. With the G6, I do a test or two on the first day until I
see that it is warmed up and matching my meter. Then, frankly, I don't test
again until 10 days later when I insert the next sensor. After three months
of doing this, now when I actually do a finger stick, I'm pretty amazed at
how easily I get blood. And yes, you can see exactly what is happening with
your glucose levels when you eat and exercise. I was surprised at how many
foods made my readings jump right after eating, but then really drop two
hours later. I've learned a lot about what and when to eat and how to manage
my insulin to match what I'm doing. I sure wish I'd had this 30 years ago,
okay, 25. I might have been a bit overwhelmed at first. <grin>
But the people at Dexcom told me that it could be as soon as November, just
no way to know. I just hope they don't stick something stupid in the
contract that messes up us using it. My plan is just to keep calling. After
all, if I self-pay, nobody can tell me when to order the next batch, right?
Hang in there and here's hoping Medicare gets its act together soon.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 6:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a

day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef,
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions

than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin>
Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing
some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 12:28:54 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 07:28:54 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <9957098533E54326A7CD2ED490D0CC0E@OwnerPC>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>	<001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<9957098533E54326A7CD2ED490D0CC0E@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <017901d45a4b$7c61fab0$7525f010$@gmail.com>

I don't think anyone here has "admireable control," grin. We all try our
best. Some of us have been at this longer than others, which might help in
some ways, but, we all have our struggles. We all can learn from a group
like this and turn to each other for support.

Being insulin dependent in many ways is better, because, when you eat carbs,
you just bolus, meaning you don't really have restrictions in what you eat.
With anyone though, everything should be done in moderation. We can all
enjoy the things we like as long as we fit it into our unique meal plans.

My problem is probably not eating enough in a day. I have 2 little boys, so,
that doesn't help. I'm always grabbing quick things for on the go, usually a
Glucerna shake. By the end of the day, I'm usually too tired to eat. So,
since I'm on an insulin pump, my basal rates reflect this, being set to very
low amounts. But, when I do indulge, it's usually savory things like chips
and popcorn or frenched fries.

I also grew up with very health-consciouss parents, so, when I was diagnosed
with type one at age 4, it wasn't a big leap for my parents to adjust to a
new lifestyle. It also helped that when I had to change up my diet, my
entire family did. That support helped me a lot, especially since I was so
young. My family was very active, so, it was natural for me to enjoy
exercise. My mom was a dance teacher, so, I grew up dancing, and my dad was
an athlete, so, we did a lot of family activities. Very early on, health and
fitness was engrained in me, so, when I became diabetic, we didn't have to
adjust much.

I was diagnosed with an eating disorder in my teens, and this is what
eventually caused my blindness. It directly compromised my diabetes, and
I've had to learn to recognize a healthy mindset about these things. As an
adult, every day, I have to make healthy choices. But, that's it, it's all
about making choices. Some days, I do better than other days.

But, a group like this is so great to have. We can share stories and
information and provide tips and suggestions. And what works for me, may not
for you, but, we have a resource in each other.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:20 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Estelnalissi <airadil at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica and Bridget,

Veronica, every word of encouragement is a help. Thank you for your
patience.

Bridget, I appreciate your explanation though I knew protein doesn't lower
glucose. I would eat mostly protein after eating too many carbs in the hope
that if I deleted most carbs for a day it would give insulin enough time to
cope with my carb overdose. I hesitate to write about my poor habits. I'm
sure no one here would mistake my confidences as suggestions for good
control. I may be the only one on the list who struggles with diet
compliance . If so, I hope something will work its way on to the list that
might nudge me in a better direction. If not, then others here who might be
too embarrassed to admit their struggles might learn from the responses I
get for the many of you with such admirable maintenance.

Always with love,

Lissi


-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 10:40 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Lissi, I too struggled with my testing routine because as someone who has
trouble getting enough blood, I was not very successful at testing when I
was away from home. With the G6, I do a test or two on the first day until I
see that it is warmed up and matching my meter. Then, frankly, I don't test
again until 10 days later when I insert the next sensor. After three months
of doing this, now when I actually do a finger stick, I'm pretty amazed at
how easily I get blood. And yes, you can see exactly what is happening with
your glucose levels when you eat and exercise. I was surprised at how many
foods made my readings jump right after eating, but then really drop two
hours later. I've learned a lot about what and when to eat and how to manage
my insulin to match what I'm doing. I sure wish I'd had this 30 years ago,
okay, 25. I might have been a bit overwhelmed at first. <grin> But the
people at Dexcom told me that it could be as soon as November, just no way
to know. I just hope they don't stick something stupid in the contract that
messes up us using it. My plan is just to keep calling. After all, if I
self-pay, nobody can tell me when to order the next batch, right?
Hang in there and here's hoping Medicare gets its act together soon.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 6:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a

day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef,
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions

than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks
for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research
again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Oct  2 16:21:19 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 09:21:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <9957098533E54326A7CD2ED490D0CC0E@OwnerPC>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>	<001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<9957098533E54326A7CD2ED490D0CC0E@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <006e01d45a6b$f3989290$dac9b7b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Lisi, first, thanks for your honesty. I too have struggled with diet
compliance, for lack of a better word. When I was diagnosed with type 1 at
age 34, it took me about ten years before I got up the courage to eat with
another diabetic because I was so afraid of being scolded. Over the years I
have found my coping strategies and learned how to use my pump when I wasn't
being a perfect diabetic and you know, I've enjoyed life. We all find our
own paths and sort out things as we go. During my first three years living
with diabetes, they changed the diet four times. This started me out as a
bit of a skeptic. But we are all different and if we're lucky, we have a
good endocrinologist or someone with whom we can forge a good relationship.
But this list is full of great ideas and it's good that we all get our butts
kicked once in awhile. <grin> So I hope you'll come to find, as I have, that
this is a very safe place to hang out and just be yourself. I really don't
believe in the word compliance anyway. We're all doing the best we can in
the moment. It's a 24/7 thing and we just have to figure out how it works in
our own lives. So pat yourself on the back because you're alive. Then enjoy
the time here with us.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 12:20 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica and Bridget,

Veronica, every word of encouragement is a help. Thank you for your 
patience.

Bridget, I appreciate your explanation though I knew protein doesn't lower 
glucose. I would eat mostly protein after eating too many carbs in the hope 
that if I deleted most carbs for a day it would give insulin enough time to 
cope with my carb overdose. I hesitate to write about my poor habits. I'm 
sure no one here would mistake my confidences as suggestions for good 
control. I may be the only one on the list who struggles with diet 
compliance . If so, I hope something will work its way on to the list that 
might nudge me in a better direction. If not, then others here who might be 
too embarrassed to admit their struggles might learn from the responses I 
get for the many of you with such admirable maintenance.

Always with love,

Lissi


-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 10:40 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Lissi, I too struggled with my testing routine because as someone who has
trouble getting enough blood, I was not very successful at testing when I
was away from home. With the G6, I do a test or two on the first day until I
see that it is warmed up and matching my meter. Then, frankly, I don't test
again until 10 days later when I insert the next sensor. After three months
of doing this, now when I actually do a finger stick, I'm pretty amazed at
how easily I get blood. And yes, you can see exactly what is happening with
your glucose levels when you eat and exercise. I was surprised at how many
foods made my readings jump right after eating, but then really drop two
hours later. I've learned a lot about what and when to eat and how to manage
my insulin to match what I'm doing. I sure wish I'd had this 30 years ago,
okay, 25. I might have been a bit overwhelmed at first. <grin>
But the people at Dexcom told me that it could be as soon as November, just
no way to know. I just hope they don't stick something stupid in the
contract that messes up us using it. My plan is just to keep calling. After
all, if I self-pay, nobody can tell me when to order the next batch, right?
Hang in there and here's hoping Medicare gets its act together soon.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 6:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I
realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their
combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a
blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me
remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until
the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable
requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the
morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and
supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast
again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a

day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it
would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling
myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating
proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute
meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a
skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef,
corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a
deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions

than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone
is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with
appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of
money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If
Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which
is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom,
Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract
yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the
year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are
using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior
authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I
can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this
where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could
potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and
working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the
Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's
amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care
when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin>
Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing
some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From doula.jarboe at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 17:38:41 2018
From: doula.jarboe at gmail.com (Doula Jarboe)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 11:38:41 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets
Message-ID: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
 I'm wondering if anyone here has to balance different diets? I have a
rare genetic disease called Alstrom syndrome. The name of the game is
organ deterrioration and failure, when and what is anyone's best
guess. I started out with high triglycerides, lipids in my early
teens. I've always been overweight, another syndrome issue, is
hyperphagia, meaning your body doesn't recognize staying full for very
long. At the age of 18 I had pancreatitis, and in enters my Diabetes.
In my mid 30's is when my kidneys started deterriorating, currently
I'm pretty stable at stage 3 kidney disease. My struggle is that the
Diabetes diet of watching carbs is completely opposite from the kidney
diet where carbs are one of the safer things to eat. I can have up to
2000 MGs of sodium and potassium a day. It can be real fun figuring
out what to eat, I really have to know my food makeup. Just wondering
if anyone else has to do this tricky kind of balancing act? It's taken
me some time to figure out how to make it work for me. And hopefully
if I get approved for my CGM, that doesn't  make me go back to the
drawing board with food. Although I hope not, because my sugars are
pretty good testing with my meter. Thanks everyone.
Doula



From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 18:38:54 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.
In-Reply-To: <006e01d45a6b$f3989290$dac9b7b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d459ce$5f448c90$1dcda5b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com><01AA8C2AC26945E9A874FB92E7B091CC@OwnerPC>	<001e01d459f9$5802e320$0808a960$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<9957098533E54326A7CD2ED490D0CC0E@OwnerPC>
	<006e01d45a6b$f3989290$dac9b7b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <033301d45a7f$2c5436d0$84fca470$@gmail.com>

Veronica and others,

Great points. Thanks for sharing.

And yes, ideas about diabetic diets have changed quite a bit through the years. I was diagnosed in the mid-80s, and back then, it was a lot more restrictive, thinking it was all about sugar and not just carbs in general. I was the kid with the angel food cake for her birthday where half was iced, and guess what half I was given. Yep, it sucked.

But, nowadays, the focus is completely on carbs and insulin ratios. This is why there is less of a focus on specific foods and all the focus is on carbs. As diabetics, we really can eat whatever we want, we just need it to fit into our specific, individual daily goals.

Having said this, it doesn't mean me or anyone else always follows what specific plan we are on. Essentially, if my A1-C is good, that's what I focus on. Mine have been good for years now, so, I don't worry too much about the specifics ?

I eat as healthy as possible, allowing myself to indulge in treats from time-to-time, and exercise as much as I can. For me, I swim, do yoga and run almost daily, but diet and activity looks different for everyone. And again, if our A1-Cs are in target ranges, that's the biggest accomplishment.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:21 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Lisi, first, thanks for your honesty. I too have struggled with diet compliance, for lack of a better word. When I was diagnosed with type 1 at age 34, it took me about ten years before I got up the courage to eat with another diabetic because I was so afraid of being scolded. Over the years I have found my coping strategies and learned how to use my pump when I wasn't being a perfect diabetic and you know, I've enjoyed life. We all find our own paths and sort out things as we go. During my first three years living with diabetes, they changed the diet four times. This started me out as a bit of a skeptic. But we are all different and if we're lucky, we have a good endocrinologist or someone with whom we can forge a good relationship.
But this list is full of great ideas and it's good that we all get our butts kicked once in awhile. <grin> So I hope you'll come to find, as I have, that this is a very safe place to hang out and just be yourself. I really don't believe in the word compliance anyway. We're all doing the best we can in the moment. It's a 24/7 thing and we just have to figure out how it works in our own lives. So pat yourself on the back because you're alive. Then enjoy the time here with us.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 12:20 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica and Bridget,

Veronica, every word of encouragement is a help. Thank you for your patience.

Bridget, I appreciate your explanation though I knew protein doesn't lower glucose. I would eat mostly protein after eating too many carbs in the hope that if I deleted most carbs for a day it would give insulin enough time to cope with my carb overdose. I hesitate to write about my poor habits. I'm sure no one here would mistake my confidences as suggestions for good control. I may be the only one on the list who struggles with diet compliance . If so, I hope something will work its way on to the list that might nudge me in a better direction. If not, then others here who might be too embarrassed to admit their struggles might learn from the responses I get for the many of you with such admirable maintenance.

Always with love,

Lissi


-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 10:40 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Lissi, I too struggled with my testing routine because as someone who has trouble getting enough blood, I was not very successful at testing when I was away from home. With the G6, I do a test or two on the first day until I see that it is warmed up and matching my meter. Then, frankly, I don't test again until 10 days later when I insert the next sensor. After three months of doing this, now when I actually do a finger stick, I'm pretty amazed at how easily I get blood. And yes, you can see exactly what is happening with your glucose levels when you eat and exercise. I was surprised at how many foods made my readings jump right after eating, but then really drop two hours later. I've learned a lot about what and when to eat and how to manage my insulin to match what I'm doing. I sure wish I'd had this 30 years ago, okay, 25. I might have been a bit overwhelmed at first. <grin> But the people at Dexcom told me that it could be as soon as November, just no way to know. I just hope they don't stick something stupid in the contract that messes up us using it. My plan is just to keep calling. After all, if I self-pay, nobody can tell me when to order the next batch, right?
Hang in there and here's hoping Medicare gets its act together soon.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 6:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Dear Veronica,

Thank you so much for mentioning the monthly cost for Dexcom sensors. I realize the cost must vary depending on the insurance plans and their combinations. Testing my BG isn't easy for me so Dexcom 06 sounds like a blessed solution. Having a ball park idea of the dexcom's cost helps me remain realistic as well as helping me to keep up the finger sticks until the 06 is approved.

My endo's nurse practitioner has designed a system she feels is acceptable requiring 2 sticks instead of 4 a day: once when I first get up in the morning and then two hours after breakfast one day, lunch the next day and supper the third day and then starting the following day after breakfast again. After many years as a diabetic I hadn't accomplished the four tests a

day protocol. I'm more than grateful to her.

As for the Dexcom, I was thinking that if it tests fairly continually, it would know when I go for carbs sweet ;or savory. There would be no telling myself when I ate big carbs that I will make up for it later by eating proteins heavily.

By the way, I cooked a recipe from a Betty Crocker cookbook of 30 minute meals for diabetics which my husband is willing to have again. It's a skillet taco meal with 100 percent whole grain minute rice, ground beef, corn, tomato paste, salsa, crushed tomatoes water and onions cooked in a deep skillet. I used a dutch oven because I used more ground beef and onions

than the recipe called for. I'll share the recipe on or off list if anyone is interested. I like it that there will be leftovers.

I don't post often, but I read almost all of the messages here with appreciation and best wishes to all of you.

airadil at dslextreme.com

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom and Medicare.

Hi everyone!
Well, I am now a very unhappy camper. Today I officially start on Medicare.
Boo hiss! I hereby declaire my supplemental insurance a giant waste of money. If Medicare covers something, they will pay a little bit more. If Medicare denies, they will too. You all probably know where this is going.
My next batch of Dexcom sensors will be paid completely out of pocket, which is over $300 per month. But I'm not going backwards. According to Dexcom, Medicare has officially approved the G6, but they just don't have a contract yet. How stupid is that. The contract could be sorted out by the end of the year. They will then have an upgrade program for Medicare recipients who are using the G5. But it makes no sense for me to go through all the prior authorizations and stuff to go backwards for a month or two or three. And I can't imagine what takes six months to be written up in a contract. Is this where they bundle it with an inaccessible meter? Is this where we could potentially have another fight over not being required to use the receiver?
This is where someone with NFB or somewhere should be on the alert and working with Dexcom and Medicare. But that's not happening either.
Now I get to go find out if everyone was telling me the truth about the Omnipod. But hey, my supplemental plan would buy me a hearing aid. It's amazing how private insurance companies have to offer continuity of care when you change plans. But the government, nope!
Well, time to start buying lottery tickets I guess. <grin> Anyway, thanks for listening. I'll keep you posted and I'm back to doing some research again.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 18:44:38 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:44:38 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <033c01d45a7f$f94f57a0$ebee06e0$@gmail.com>

Doula,

I don't have anything like what you're dealing with, but, I do have gastro
paresis, and while I don't have a gluten intolerance, I find eating
gluten-free helps. So, lately, I've been trying to eat gluten-free.
Fortunately, these days, finding gluten-free options in stores and
restaurants is much easier than it used to be. But, I mostly cook at home,
so, I can do what I want.

I tried the Keto diet for a while to take off extra baby weight. And Keto is
supposed to be great for diabetics, but, for me, I found it kept my blood
sugars higher no matter what I did. Anyone else here have success with Keto?

Bridgit

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Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

Hi All,
 I'm wondering if anyone here has to balance different diets? I have a rare
genetic disease called Alstrom syndrome. The name of the game is organ
deterrioration and failure, when and what is anyone's best guess. I started
out with high triglycerides, lipids in my early teens. I've always been
overweight, another syndrome issue, is hyperphagia, meaning your body
doesn't recognize staying full for very long. At the age of 18 I had
pancreatitis, and in enters my Diabetes.
In my mid 30's is when my kidneys started deterriorating, currently I'm
pretty stable at stage 3 kidney disease. My struggle is that the Diabetes
diet of watching carbs is completely opposite from the kidney diet where
carbs are one of the safer things to eat. I can have up to
2000 MGs of sodium and potassium a day. It can be real fun figuring out what
to eat, I really have to know my food makeup. Just wondering if anyone else
has to do this tricky kind of balancing act? It's taken me some time to
figure out how to make it work for me. And hopefully if I get approved for
my CGM, that doesn't  make me go back to the drawing board with food.
Although I hope not, because my sugars are pretty good testing with my
meter. Thanks everyone.
Doula

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Oct  2 22:45:05 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:45:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets
In-Reply-To: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002101d45aa1$90750690$b15f13b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

The CGM won't make you do anything different with your diet. All it will do
is give you information. <grin>
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
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Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 10:39 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

Hi All,
 I'm wondering if anyone here has to balance different diets? I have a
rare genetic disease called Alstrom syndrome. The name of the game is
organ deterrioration and failure, when and what is anyone's best
guess. I started out with high triglycerides, lipids in my early
teens. I've always been overweight, another syndrome issue, is
hyperphagia, meaning your body doesn't recognize staying full for very
long. At the age of 18 I had pancreatitis, and in enters my Diabetes.
In my mid 30's is when my kidneys started deterriorating, currently
I'm pretty stable at stage 3 kidney disease. My struggle is that the
Diabetes diet of watching carbs is completely opposite from the kidney
diet where carbs are one of the safer things to eat. I can have up to
2000 MGs of sodium and potassium a day. It can be real fun figuring
out what to eat, I really have to know my food makeup. Just wondering
if anyone else has to do this tricky kind of balancing act? It's taken
me some time to figure out how to make it work for me. And hopefully
if I get approved for my CGM, that doesn't  make me go back to the
drawing board with food. Although I hope not, because my sugars are
pretty good testing with my meter. Thanks everyone.
Doula

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 13:24:48 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 08:24:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets
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References: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<002101d45aa1$90750690$b15f13b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <05d101d45b1c$7598ff40$60cafdc0$@gmail.com>

Yes, as Veronica points out, a CGM is essentially a glucometer that you
don't have to poke yourself for. All it's doing is testing your blood
sugars. It can help show what carbs do to glucose levels in real-time, which
can help you make better or different choices, but, ultimately, it's a
glucometer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 5:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

The CGM won't make you do anything different with your diet. All it will do
is give you information. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 10:39 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

Hi All,
 I'm wondering if anyone here has to balance different diets? I have a rare
genetic disease called Alstrom syndrome. The name of the game is organ
deterrioration and failure, when and what is anyone's best guess. I started
out with high triglycerides, lipids in my early teens. I've always been
overweight, another syndrome issue, is hyperphagia, meaning your body
doesn't recognize staying full for very long. At the age of 18 I had
pancreatitis, and in enters my Diabetes.
In my mid 30's is when my kidneys started deterriorating, currently I'm
pretty stable at stage 3 kidney disease. My struggle is that the Diabetes
diet of watching carbs is completely opposite from the kidney diet where
carbs are one of the safer things to eat. I can have up to
2000 MGs of sodium and potassium a day. It can be real fun figuring out what
to eat, I really have to know my food makeup. Just wondering if anyone else
has to do this tricky kind of balancing act? It's taken me some time to
figure out how to make it work for me. And hopefully if I get approved for
my CGM, that doesn't  make me go back to the drawing board with food.
Although I hope not, because my sugars are pretty good testing with my
meter. Thanks everyone.
Doula

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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 18:19:12 2018
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (sandi)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 13:19:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets
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References: <CAOZMXTmPqFz4NgXQ=D69n3ibjiWCn4BR4OV6=bfD8pLUbfXMaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<002101d45aa1$90750690$b15f13b0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<05d101d45b1c$7598ff40$60cafdc0$@gmail.com>
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I feel I need to mention that, while between us we have lots of experience with diabetes, Type 1 and Type 2, none of us is a health professional. If you?re balancing diets for two or more diseases, you need to visit with a registered dietitian who has experience with all the nuances of your diseases and how the diets can fit together. Necessarily, anyone who responds here will emphasize diabetes, since that?s our focus. 

Good luck with juggling these diets. It is certainly not always easy. 

Sandi


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From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:28 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

Yes, as Veronica points out, a CGM is essentially a glucometer that you
don't have to poke yourself for. All it's doing is testing your blood
sugars. It can help show what carbs do to glucose levels in real-time, which
can help you make better or different choices, but, ultimately, it's a
glucometer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica
Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 5:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

The CGM won't make you do anything different with your diet. All it will do
is give you information. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 10:39 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Doula Jarboe
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] balancing diets

Hi All,
 I'm wondering if anyone here has to balance different diets? I have a rare
genetic disease called Alstrom syndrome. The name of the game is organ
deterrioration and failure, when and what is anyone's best guess. I started
out with high triglycerides, lipids in my early teens. I've always been
overweight, another syndrome issue, is hyperphagia, meaning your body
doesn't recognize staying full for very long. At the age of 18 I had
pancreatitis, and in enters my Diabetes.
In my mid 30's is when my kidneys started deterriorating, currently I'm
pretty stable at stage 3 kidney disease. My struggle is that the Diabetes
diet of watching carbs is completely opposite from the kidney diet where
carbs are one of the safer things to eat. I can have up to
2000 MGs of sodium and potassium a day. It can be real fun figuring out what
to eat, I really have to know my food makeup. Just wondering if anyone else
has to do this tricky kind of balancing act? It's taken me some time to
figure out how to make it work for me. And hopefully if I get approved for
my CGM, that doesn't  make me go back to the drawing board with food.
Although I hope not, because my sugars are pretty good testing with my
meter. Thanks everyone.
Doula

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From sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 20:04:17 2018
From: sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com (Mary Sanders)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:04:17 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
Message-ID: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>

Hello,
I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
Mary 

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From sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 20:06:14 2018
From: sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com (Mary Sanders)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:06:14 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
In-Reply-To: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>
References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C8E104E-B2A8-458A-810B-415A3D46DFBB@gmail.com>

The one time I successfully got enough blood on the test strip was when I was with somebody cited, and the interesting thing is between the finger pad and the sides I got two different readings. One was 95, the other was 116. Any reason as to why they are so different? Unfortunately, I will not have anyone cited to assist and I want to be able to do this independently. Thank you guys for your help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
> Mary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone



From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 20:38:53 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 13:38:53 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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Ththis is strange. What I do is wash my hands with hot or luiq warm water. Then prik  the finger tha iwill test  an pres to get the blod ot come out to get enough blood an then swipe across the test tstrip and I can get the reding  every time  with no issues .i am also using the  clever choice voice Hd meter and have no issues what so ever. 

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

Hello,
I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
Mary 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 21:16:08 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:16:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>
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Mary,

I'm also totally blind. It can take some practice, but, you can get there. I tend to not do the sides of my finger as I don't have much meat there, sticking to just below my pad. I poke, squeeze, pushing up as I apply pressure then do circular motions on the tip of the strip. For me, I don't often have to poke again or retest, but, I've been testing my blood sugars for more than 30 years. 15 of those, I've been blind. So, in time, you will get the swing of it.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

Hello,
I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
Mary 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 21:18:00 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:18:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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Eventually, you will be able to tell when blood is on the finger just by how it feels. There's a slight difference, especially if you have a decent amount of blood, but, these days, with lancets the way they are, they don't usually poke deep enough to produce a huge droplet of blood. But, meters also don't require as much blood as they used too. I've been doing this for years completely on my own, so, don't worry, it will come.

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To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

The one time I successfully got enough blood on the test strip was when I was with somebody cited, and the interesting thing is between the finger pad and the sides I got two different readings. One was 95, the other was 116. Any reason as to why they are so different? Unfortunately, I will not have anyone cited to assist and I want to be able to do this independently. Thank you guys for your help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
> Mary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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From sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 21:28:43 2018
From: sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com (Mary Sanders)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:28:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>
	<9C8E104E-B2A8-458A-810B-415A3D46DFBB@gmail.com>
	<08a401d45c27$bb3ddaa0$31b98fe0$@gmail.com>
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Thank you all so much, all of your advice really helps and it?s good to know it doesn?t come overnight and to be patient.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Eventually, you will be able to tell when blood is on the finger just by how it feels. There's a slight difference, especially if you have a decent amount of blood, but, these days, with lancets the way they are, they don't usually poke deep enough to produce a huge droplet of blood. But, meters also don't require as much blood as they used too. I've been doing this for years completely on my own, so, don't worry, it will come.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:06 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
> 
> The one time I successfully got enough blood on the test strip was when I was with somebody cited, and the interesting thing is between the finger pad and the sides I got two different readings. One was 95, the other was 116. Any reason as to why they are so different? Unfortunately, I will not have anyone cited to assist and I want to be able to do this independently. Thank you guys for your help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
>> Mary 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 21:30:52 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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I agree. I have been testing my blood sugars as a blind individual four almost 35 years. It does just take practice. Pretty soon, your muscle memory will Guide your finger right to the strip.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I'm also totally blind. It can take some practice, but, you can get there. I tend to not do the sides of my finger as I don't have much meat there, sticking to just below my pad. I poke, squeeze, pushing up as I apply pressure then do circular motions on the tip of the strip. For me, I don't often have to poke again or retest, but, I've been testing my blood sugars for more than 30 years. 15 of those, I've been blind. So, in time, you will get the swing of it.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:04 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
> 
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
> Mary 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 21:53:25 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:53:25 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
In-Reply-To: <5C6BE927-9C2C-4161-9A9F-0979DEF0346D@gmail.com>
References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>	<9C8E104E-B2A8-458A-810B-415A3D46DFBB@gmail.com>	<08a401d45c27$bb3ddaa0$31b98fe0$@gmail.com>
	<5C6BE927-9C2C-4161-9A9F-0979DEF0346D@gmail.com>
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Hopefully all the advice helps you in getting your  readings with your meter. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 2:29 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

Thank you all so much, all of your advice really helps and it?s good to know it doesn?t come overnight and to be patient.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Eventually, you will be able to tell when blood is on the finger just by how it feels. There's a slight difference, especially if you have a decent amount of blood, but, these days, with lancets the way they are, they don't usually poke deep enough to produce a huge droplet of blood. But, meters also don't require as much blood as they used too. I've been doing this for years completely on my own, so, don't worry, it will come.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:06 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
> 
> The one time I successfully got enough blood on the test strip was when I was with somebody cited, and the interesting thing is between the finger pad and the sides I got two different readings. One was 95, the other was 116. Any reason as to why they are so different? Unfortunately, I will not have anyone cited to assist and I want to be able to do this independently. Thank you guys for your help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
>> Mary 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 21:54:43 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 14:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>	<089b01d45c27$780a5510$681eff30$@gmail.com>
	<EEF7B070-90F7-4E6B-9C03-34A9633010E3@gmail.com>
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I have been doing   it only 13 years now.having taken all the advice from the list has helped me in getting better readings.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 2:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

I agree. I have been testing my blood sugars as a blind individual four almost 35 years. It does just take practice. Pretty soon, your muscle memory will Guide your finger right to the strip.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I'm also totally blind. It can take some practice, but, you can get there. I tend to not do the sides of my finger as I don't have much meat there, sticking to just below my pad. I poke, squeeze, pushing up as I apply pressure then do circular motions on the tip of the strip. For me, I don't often have to poke again or retest, but, I've been testing my blood sugars for more than 30 years. 15 of those, I've been blind. So, in time, you will get the swing of it.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:04 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
> 
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
> Mary 
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Oct  4 22:36:54 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:36:54 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
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References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>	<089b01d45c27$780a5510$681eff30$@gmail.com>	<EEF7B070-90F7-4E6B-9C03-34A9633010E3@gmail.com>
	<002b01d45c2c$dc888d40$9599a7c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d45c32$c0e859c0$42b90d40$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Mary, I have been testing for 30 years totally blind. I am not one of those who has had a wonderful easy time getting blood on the strip. I almost never got enough to satisfy the Prodigy and the Clever check needs the same amount. I definitely do the hot water bit and I find that I have to get all the way up to my wrists in the hot water to really help. I was taught to use the sides of my fingers because there's actually more blood there. As for the difference in your readings, meters can be off as much as 20 per cent and if you got more interstitial fluid in one reading, that would also make a difference. Back to the testing, as others have described, once I sit down to do the stick, I milk the finger I've just stuck, starting from way down, working up close to where the blood might be, hoping I don't run into the blood. I have done that though. <grin> And over time, as Jamie said, you will kind of know where the polk was and be able to aim the strip there. I also kind of do little circles. I use the FreeStyle, which is not an accessible meter to test because it takes half the amount of blood and it doesn't start the test until it has enough. My hubby made me a talking box so I am very spoiled. But my success did improve when I didn't rush. So after you do the stick, don't be in a big hurry to get your finger to the strip. Yes, once in awhile you may have a whopper of a bleeder right away but quite often, it can take awhile for the drop to develop. That was the thing that improved my odds the most. And I can't always tell when there's blood there. I've been fooled by sensations in both directions. So the most important thing to bring with you for now is to know that many of us sometimes can't get enough blood and have to get a second strip. No matter how smart we are, we really are kind of guessing as to when to let our finger greet the strip. So relax and be kind to yourself. That too will improve your odds. And for now, if something doesn't work, just say, hi Veronica. Me too. <grin> 
And of course, feel free to update us and we may have some more ideas based on our experiences.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

I have been doing   it only 13 years now.having taken all the advice from the list has helped me in getting better readings.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 2:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

I agree. I have been testing my blood sugars as a blind individual four almost 35 years. It does just take practice. Pretty soon, your muscle memory will Guide your finger right to the strip.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I'm also totally blind. It can take some practice, but, you can get there. I tend to not do the sides of my finger as I don't have much meat there, sticking to just below my pad. I poke, squeeze, pushing up as I apply pressure then do circular motions on the tip of the strip. For me, I don't often have to poke again or retest, but, I've been testing my blood sugars for more than 30 years. 15 of those, I've been blind. So, in time, you will get the swing of it.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:04 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
> 
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
> Mary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 04:21:34 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 21:21:34 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
In-Reply-To: <000301d45c32$c0e859c0$42b90d40$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>	<089b01d45c27$780a5510$681eff30$@gmail.com>	<EEF7B070-90F7-4E6B-9C03-34A9633010E3@gmail.com>	<002b01d45c2c$dc888d40$9599a7c0$@gmail.com>
	<000301d45c32$c0e859c0$42b90d40$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <01dd01d45c62$e7a752c0$b6f5f840$@gmail.com>

Thanks for all the advice on these sort of matters.hoping that you will be able to sort out your cgm and medicare matters.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

Mary, I have been testing for 30 years totally blind. I am not one of those who has had a wonderful easy time getting blood on the strip. I almost never got enough to satisfy the Prodigy and the Clever check needs the same amount. I definitely do the hot water bit and I find that I have to get all the way up to my wrists in the hot water to really help. I was taught to use the sides of my fingers because there's actually more blood there. As for the difference in your readings, meters can be off as much as 20 per cent and if you got more interstitial fluid in one reading, that would also make a difference. Back to the testing, as others have described, once I sit down to do the stick, I milk the finger I've just stuck, starting from way down, working up close to where the blood might be, hoping I don't run into the blood. I have done that though. <grin> And over time, as Jamie said, you will kind of know where the polk was and be able to aim the strip there. I also kind of do little circles. I use the FreeStyle, which is not an accessible meter to test because it takes half the amount of blood and it doesn't start the test until it has enough. My hubby made me a talking box so I am very spoiled. But my success did improve when I didn't rush. So after you do the stick, don't be in a big hurry to get your finger to the strip. Yes, once in awhile you may have a whopper of a bleeder right away but quite often, it can take awhile for the drop to develop. That was the thing that improved my odds the most. And I can't always tell when there's blood there. I've been fooled by sensations in both directions. So the most important thing to bring with you for now is to know that many of us sometimes can't get enough blood and have to get a second strip. No matter how smart we are, we really are kind of guessing as to when to let our finger greet the strip. So relax and be kind to yourself. That too will improve your odds. And for now, if something doesn't work, just say, hi Veronica. Me too. <grin> And of course, feel free to update us and we may have some more ideas based on our experiences.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

I have been doing   it only 13 years now.having taken all the advice from the list has helped me in getting better readings.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 2:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

I agree. I have been testing my blood sugars as a blind individual four almost 35 years. It does just take practice. Pretty soon, your muscle memory will Guide your finger right to the strip.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I'm also totally blind. It can take some practice, but, you can get there. I tend to not do the sides of my finger as I don't have much meat there, sticking to just below my pad. I poke, squeeze, pushing up as I apply pressure then do circular motions on the tip of the strip. For me, I don't often have to poke again or retest, but, I've been testing my blood sugars for more than 30 years. 15 of those, I've been blind. So, in time, you will get the swing of it.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:04 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
> 
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice meter. 
> Mary 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From krouthorn at verizon.net  Fri Oct  5 17:27:09 2018
From: krouthorn at verizon.net (Amy Krout-Horn)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:27:09 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
Message-ID: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>

Hello,
Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
Peace and Light,
Amy 



From joystigile at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 17:46:34 2018
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 10:46:34 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>
Message-ID: <136f01d45cd3$5c4de290$14e9a7b0$@gmail.com>

Hi Amy,
Thanks for your information.  Yes, Deffinently keep us up to date on your journey with the 700 series Insulin pump from Medtronics!
Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:27 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Amy Krout-Horn <krouthorn at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

Hello,
Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
Peace and Light,
Amy 

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Oct  5 21:14:42 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 17:14:42 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>
Message-ID: <ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen>

Hi Amy,

While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.

Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!

Keeping my fingers crossed,

Eileen
From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
Cc: Amy Krout-Horn 
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

Hello,
Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
Peace and Light,
Amy 

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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 22:08:24 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 17:08:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>
	<ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen>
Message-ID: <A759FFBC-5F96-4F12-A9C3-8B8DD68140F1@gmail.com>

I didn?t think the 700 series was accessible either. How are you able to get past the unlock screen on it? I thought it was pretty much identical to the 630 G. I am getting the 530 G sent to me this week, since they agreed to let totally blind diabetics have the mostly accessible 530 G for now. The warrantee will not be for the entire four years, but hopefully something more accessible will come along between now and then. I had to do something, since my animus pump was not going to be supported nor would I have access to supplies in a few months from now.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Amy,
> 
> While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.
> 
> Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!
> 
> Keeping my fingers crossed,
> 
> Eileen
> From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
> Cc: Amy Krout-Horn 
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
> 
> Hello,
> Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
> Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
> The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
> Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
> What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
> I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
> For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
> As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
> Peace and Light,
> Amy 
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Oct  5 22:49:48 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 18:49:48 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <A759FFBC-5F96-4F12-A9C3-8B8DD68140F1@gmail.com>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop><ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen>
	<A759FFBC-5F96-4F12-A9C3-8B8DD68140F1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D441234230E74F3285DEDF94658CBBE1@eileen>

Jamie,

You have me wondering now. When the pump trainer read off my serial number she said the type & model of the pump, 723. However, you are right, I believe my original pump model was a Revel 523. I will call Medtronics to confirm the exact model they have on file. And, all I can tell you is what I have right now is an exact duplicate with the same buttons that are tactile and completely accessible. She did show me the newer pump and have to say I wasn?t crazy about the size ? it seemed wider, heavier/bulkier not as sleek as the paradigm.  And the arrows on it just weren?t very well differentiated.

I need to get back to you on my model number because I know what she said.

Eileen

From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:08 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
Cc: Jamie Gurganus 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

I didn?t think the 700 series was accessible either. How are you able to get past the unlock screen on it? I thought it was pretty much identical to the 630 G. I am getting the 530 G sent to me this week, since they agreed to let totally blind diabetics have the mostly accessible 530 G for now. The warrantee will not be for the entire four years, but hopefully something more accessible will come along between now and then. I had to do something, since my animus pump was not going to be supported nor would I have access to supplies in a few months from now.

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Amy,
> 
> While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.
> 
> Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!
> 
> Keeping my fingers crossed,
> 
> Eileen
> From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
> Cc: Amy Krout-Horn 
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
> 
> Hello,
> Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
> Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
> The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
> Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
> What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
> I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
> For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
> As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
> Peace and Light,
> Amy 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 23:23:11 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 18:23:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <D441234230E74F3285DEDF94658CBBE1@eileen>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop>
	<ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen>
	<A759FFBC-5F96-4F12-A9C3-8B8DD68140F1@gmail.com>
	<D441234230E74F3285DEDF94658CBBE1@eileen>
Message-ID: <0A10A0E1-BA05-44A9-8070-EA4FC72D2353@gmail.com>

Eileen,

Honestly, I did not know they had a 723 series. I was just showing the 630 and 730. I am getting the 530 G, which is the nice, small pump that has the tactile buttons on it. I did not like the size of the 630 or 730. Like you said, they are large and heavy.

   Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> You have me wondering now. When the pump trainer read off my serial number she said the type & model of the pump, 723. However, you are right, I believe my original pump model was a Revel 523. I will call Medtronics to confirm the exact model they have on file. And, all I can tell you is what I have right now is an exact duplicate with the same buttons that are tactile and completely accessible. She did show me the newer pump and have to say I wasn?t crazy about the size ? it seemed wider, heavier/bulkier not as sleek as the paradigm.  And the arrows on it just weren?t very well differentiated.
> 
> I need to get back to you on my model number because I know what she said.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:08 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
> 
> I didn?t think the 700 series was accessible either. How are you able to get past the unlock screen on it? I thought it was pretty much identical to the 630 G. I am getting the 530 G sent to me this week, since they agreed to let totally blind diabetics have the mostly accessible 530 G for now. The warrantee will not be for the entire four years, but hopefully something more accessible will come along between now and then. I had to do something, since my animus pump was not going to be supported nor would I have access to supplies in a few months from now.
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amy,
>> 
>> While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.
>> 
>> Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!
>> 
>> Keeping my fingers crossed,
>> 
>> Eileen
>> From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk 
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
>> Cc: Amy Krout-Horn 
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
>> Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
>> The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
>> Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
>> What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
>> I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
>> For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
>> As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
>> Peace and Light,
>> Amy 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 23:52:37 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 16:52:37 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
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Oh, I see. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

Eileen,

Honestly, I did not know they had a 723 series. I was just showing the 630 and 730. I am getting the 530 G, which is the nice, small pump that has the tactile buttons on it. I did not like the size of the 630 or 730. Like you said, they are large and heavy.

   Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> You have me wondering now. When the pump trainer read off my serial number she said the type & model of the pump, 723. However, you are right, I believe my original pump model was a Revel 523. I will call Medtronics to confirm the exact model they have on file. And, all I can tell you is what I have right now is an exact duplicate with the same buttons that are tactile and completely accessible. She did show me the newer pump and have to say I wasn?t crazy about the size ? it seemed wider, heavier/bulkier not as sleek as the paradigm.  And the arrows on it just weren?t very well differentiated.
> 
> I need to get back to you on my model number because I know what she said.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:08 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
> 
> I didn?t think the 700 series was accessible either. How are you able to get past the unlock screen on it? I thought it was pretty much identical to the 630 G. I am getting the 530 G sent to me this week, since they agreed to let totally blind diabetics have the mostly accessible 530 G for now. The warrantee will not be for the entire four years, but hopefully something more accessible will come along between now and then. I had to do something, since my animus pump was not going to be supported nor would I have access to supplies in a few months from now.
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amy,
>> 
>> While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.
>> 
>> Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!
>> 
>> Keeping my fingers crossed,
>> 
>> Eileen
>> From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Amy Krout-Horn
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
>> Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
>> The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
>> Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
>> What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
>> I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
>> For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
>> As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
>> Peace and Light,
>> Amy
>> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Oct  6 00:01:30 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 20:01:30 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <0A10A0E1-BA05-44A9-8070-EA4FC72D2353@gmail.com>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop><ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen><A759FFBC-5F96-4F12-A9C3-8B8DD68140F1@gmail.com><D441234230E74F3285DEDF94658CBBE1@eileen>
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Jamie,

Keep in mind it could have just been a mis-read off by the pump trainer. I will call them tomorrow and try to find out the exact number & if there is in fact a 723. It is though a Paradigm Revel.

Later,

Eileen

From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 7:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
Cc: Jamie Gurganus 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

Eileen,

Honestly, I did not know they had a 723 series. I was just showing the 630 and 730. I am getting the 530 G, which is the nice, small pump that has the tactile buttons on it. I did not like the size of the 630 or 730. Like you said, they are large and heavy.

   Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> You have me wondering now. When the pump trainer read off my serial number she said the type & model of the pump, 723. However, you are right, I believe my original pump model was a Revel 523. I will call Medtronics to confirm the exact model they have on file. And, all I can tell you is what I have right now is an exact duplicate with the same buttons that are tactile and completely accessible. She did show me the newer pump and have to say I wasn?t crazy about the size ? it seemed wider, heavier/bulkier not as sleek as the paradigm.  And the arrows on it just weren?t very well differentiated.
> 
> I need to get back to you on my model number because I know what she said.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:08 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
> 
> I didn?t think the 700 series was accessible either. How are you able to get past the unlock screen on it? I thought it was pretty much identical to the 630 G. I am getting the 530 G sent to me this week, since they agreed to let totally blind diabetics have the mostly accessible 530 G for now. The warrantee will not be for the entire four years, but hopefully something more accessible will come along between now and then. I had to do something, since my animus pump was not going to be supported nor would I have access to supplies in a few months from now.
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amy,
>> 
>> While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.
>> 
>> Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!
>> 
>> Keeping my fingers crossed,
>> 
>> Eileen
>> From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk 
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
>> Cc: Amy Krout-Horn 
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
>> Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
>> The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
>> Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
>> What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
>> I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
>> For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
>> As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
>> Peace and Light,
>> Amy 
>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Oct  6 02:21:27 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:21:27 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
In-Reply-To: <05D8664578AB4A0A9582F73FA87025E5@eileen>
References: <F875462311044A0C9C5419CDE6642361@HPdesktop><ADB82E6D1194482A9E0069D3B4A8F78F@eileen><A759FFBC-5F96-4F12-A9C3-8B8DD68140F1@gmail.com><D441234230E74F3285DEDF94658CBBE1@eileen>	<0A10A0E1-BA05-44A9-8070-EA4FC72D2353@gmail.com>
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Now I'll have to have a snoop. I think the Paradigm rebel is a different series but I could be wrong. But that's what the rep told me. I was also tole, last March, oh we're working on it. If they were really thinking of us, they wouldn't have broken it in the first place. I too was told there was nothing new that we could unlock. There certainly wasn't anything on the Medtronic table I could unlock. So Amy, I'll be curious as to what you actually get. 
If any of this is true, it won't be enough to make me change, but it will be good that there are some options because I know the Omnipod isn't for everyone. 
But I'll close with a little kind of cool moment. This is not a brag because well, I had nothing to do with this. <grin> But it was a true joy for me, just plain old fun. Today Peter and I were out wandering around at one of those outdoor malls, including visiting an Apple Store. We found a nice restaurant for lunch. Once I'd figured out what I was going to have, I started entering my current BG reading and the amount of carbs into the Omnipod remote. While I was doing this, Peter said something and I got myself good and distracted. I was able to get out the Seeing AI app and read my pump screen, catching myself and continuing along with the process, not having to wait for the pump to time out so I could start over. Then I went on to read what the insulin delivery was going to be. When I have one of those moments like this, it's just a tiny hint of how much fun a truly accessible pump would be. I don't know; it just made me feel so, well, in charge! <grin> That glance, however fleeting at what it can be like for everyone else. It was a ridiculous amount of hard work to get to this place but I am really happy. Just don't ask about tape. Hahahahaha! And there's still plenty of occasional drama. But today, yay!
Thanks for letting me share this.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 5:01 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

Jamie,

Keep in mind it could have just been a mis-read off by the pump trainer. I will call them tomorrow and try to find out the exact number & if there is in fact a 723. It is though a Paradigm Revel.

Later,

Eileen

From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 7:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
Cc: Jamie Gurganus 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update

Eileen,

Honestly, I did not know they had a 723 series. I was just showing the 630 and 730. I am getting the 530 G, which is the nice, small pump that has the tactile buttons on it. I did not like the size of the 630 or 730. Like you said, they are large and heavy.

   Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> You have me wondering now. When the pump trainer read off my serial number she said the type & model of the pump, 723. However, you are right, I believe my original pump model was a Revel 523. I will call Medtronics to confirm the exact model they have on file. And, all I can tell you is what I have right now is an exact duplicate with the same buttons that are tactile and completely accessible. She did show me the newer pump and have to say I wasn?t crazy about the size ? it seemed wider, heavier/bulkier not as sleek as the paradigm.  And the arrows on it just weren?t very well differentiated.
> 
> I need to get back to you on my model number because I know what she said.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:08 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
> 
> I didn?t think the 700 series was accessible either. How are you able to get past the unlock screen on it? I thought it was pretty much identical to the 630 G. I am getting the 530 G sent to me this week, since they agreed to let totally blind diabetics have the mostly accessible 530 G for now. The warrantee will not be for the entire four years, but hopefully something more accessible will come along between now and then. I had to do something, since my animus pump was not going to be supported nor would I have access to supplies in a few months from now.
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amy,
>> 
>> While I?m sorry they don?t have a more updated pump for us, I?m glad to hear that they at minimum got you a working 700 series. Two weeks ago, I got a replacement Paradigm Revel 723 which is exactly what my original pump was. My pump, both the original, & so far as I know, the replacement too, will be out of warrantee in January 2019. My original pump had developed a crack along the top rim where the reservoir screwed in. It had been cracking for a while but I had just been dealing with it. When I heard they would discontinue the Paradigm come October 26 of this year, I decided to call and find out what they could do for me because I wanted to be able to keep my current pump going for as long as possible in working condition.
>> 
>> Anyway, I now have the replacement and it works just as the original one did. When I asked the pump trainer who helped me set up my basel rates about the lack of accessibility and the discontinuation of the only 2 pump options a blind person could use she also told me that Medtronics is aware of the problem, and that they are giving it ?high? priority, and they hope to have a solution by January. I still don?t believe the word they are putting out, but I will wait and see what happens come January. In fact I am still waiting to hear on what the policy is on my existing, replacement pump, regarding coverage on my needed supplies. This is all such a pain in the but!
>> 
>> Keeping my fingers crossed,
>> 
>> Eileen
>> From: Amy Krout-Horn via Diabetes-Talk 
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 1:27 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
>> Cc: Amy Krout-Horn 
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 630g update
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Back in June, I shared my Medtronic dilemma with you all. I wanted to update and share what I?ve learned since then.
>> Once the pump trainer passed along the fact that there was absolutely no way that I could use the 630g as a totally blind person, to the regional Medtronic rep, the rep was helpful in trying to correct my problem.
>> The process began to drag when the third-party supplier that shipped the pump and the insurance company got involved. The supplier has a strict 30-day return policy, which I had exceeded, due to the fact that I had been led to believe from the beginning that the 630g would be accessible and I wasn?t able to schedule with a trainer until after the initial 30 days, whereupon we discovered the dreaded new locked screen problem.
>> Eventually, after more phone calls and texts and tears, I, ?along with the Medtronic rep- convinced the supplier to take the 630g back and credit the insurance, so that I can begin the process again.
>> What now is in the works, is that I will be provided with a 700 series Medtronic pump. I?ve always used a 500 series and am not excited about a larger model, but I?m simply happy, that for now, I will be able to continue pump therapy.
>> I was told by the rep that Medtronic is aware of our problems as blind users, and they are working on it. I volunteered to consult with their research and development team with some ideas of how they could make the 630g locked screen accessible using the existing sounds already available on that model. I?ve heard nothing yet, but will continue to reach out.
>> For now, if you are about to warranty out or are considering pump therapy for the first time, and you are completely blind, tell your provider that the Medtronic 700 series is the ONLY model currently available that is, at least, semi-accessible.
>> As of today, I?m still wearing my out-of-warranty 500 series and keeping my fingers crossed that it continues to chug along until the 700 series replacement arrives. I received notification yesterday that the supplier has received paperwork from my diabetes healthcare provider, and that I?m being processed, so, hopefully, it won?t take much longer. I hope this information will be helpful. Thanks to everyone who responded in June. It really helped me feel less alone and less frustrated with all of this.
>> Peace and Light,
>> Amy 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Oct  6 02:29:34 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:29:34 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic 700 series.
Message-ID: <000001d45d1c$6bf51bc0$43df5340$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi again!
Okay, I just went to the Medtronic web site, had my sighted hubby go to the
web site and placed a phone call. There is nothing on there called the 700
series. There is the 530G, the 630G, the 670G, and the revel. Then it goes
on to mention the guardian and the sensors. 
So now I'm really curious as to what this is. I even had a quick look on the
FDA site and didn't find anything. So unless something is really hidden, I'm
sure puzzled.
I eagerly await an answer from anyone who gets further than I did.
Veronica


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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407






From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Oct  6 03:29:56 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 22:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic 700 series.
In-Reply-To: <000001d45d1c$6bf51bc0$43df5340$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000001d45d1c$6bf51bc0$43df5340$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <006101d45d24$db1bb920$91532b60$@gmail.com>

Yes, it sure has my curiosity peaked.  You and I both researched and looked
at all of our options with our educators and at conferences and saw nothing
accessible to us.  You Have mastered the Omnipod, and I sure hope Medicare
allows you to keep it.  I am just glad that I was able to exchange my Animas
for the 530G, since it is the last pump with tactile buttons like the
Animas.  I only hope there is truth to the rumor that Medtronic is working
on a solution to their unlock screen.  However, I am not a fan of their new
pumps, since they are very large and heavy.

				Jamie 

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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic 700 series.

Hi again!
Okay, I just went to the Medtronic web site, had my sighted hubby go to the
web site and placed a phone call. There is nothing on there called the 700
series. There is the 530G, the 630G, the 670G, and the revel. Then it goes
on to mention the guardian and the sensors. 
So now I'm really curious as to what this is. I even had a quick look on the
FDA site and didn't find anything. So unless something is really hidden, I'm
sure puzzled.
I eagerly await an answer from anyone who gets further than I did.
Veronica


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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407




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From krouthorn at verizon.net  Sat Oct  6 16:38:25 2018
From: krouthorn at verizon.net (Amy Krout-Horn)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 12:38:25 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 500 and 700 Medtronic series
Message-ID: <6C2A2272BFEC4AFEBB848F7317455062@HPdesktop>

Hello,
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused by referencing the Medtronic pump I will be getting, as ?a 700 series.? To be more specific, I contacted my Medtronic rep and was told that I will be receiving a 751. It is my understanding that the models that fall under what I called 700 series differ from their 500 series counterparts only in the amount of insulin their reservoirs hold, making the 700 models larger because they hold a larger reservoir. It is my understanding that a 751 works like a 551; it just holds 3.0ml rather than the 1.6ml my current 500 series reservoirs will hold. Of course, I?ll keep you posted when I receive the 751, ?in case I experience anything you all should know.
Amy

From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Oct  6 17:23:52 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 13:23:52 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronics Paradigm Revel 723 Insulin Pump.
In-Reply-To: <6C2A2272BFEC4AFEBB848F7317455062@HPdesktop>
References: <6C2A2272BFEC4AFEBB848F7317455062@HPdesktop>
Message-ID: <E186722DF3F24581BAB92B1669B4E21D@eileen>

Hi All, 

I checked with Medtronics & yes the pump I have is a Paradigm Revel 723. Like Amy it holds a larger size reservoir that can hold up to 3ML of insulin. Its a Paradigm so it will be discontinued some time this month.

Eileen

From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Oct  6 18:49:07 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 11:49:07 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 500 and 700 Medtronic series
In-Reply-To: <6C2A2272BFEC4AFEBB848F7317455062@HPdesktop>
References: <6C2A2272BFEC4AFEBB848F7317455062@HPdesktop>
Message-ID: <000001d45da5$42e81500$c8b83f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Okay, I went specifically searching for the 751 and it would land me on descriptions of the 530G. I did find one reference to the Medtronic Minimed paradigm 751 so I can only conclude it must be part of that series, which would be why none of their reps were mentioning it to us. Typical Medtronic lousy service, I'd say. But either way, I would guess it's not long for this world and if they had a solution for us, I can't find anything new on the FDA pages. So it would have to be a modification, which would need clearance, right. Not going to be in our hands by January if this is correct. Hang in there, Omnipod. 
Good luck everyone.
Veronica


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Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 9:38 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Amy Krout-Horn
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] 500 and 700 Medtronic series

Hello,
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused by referencing the Medtronic pump I will be getting, as ?a 700 series.? To be more specific, I contacted my Medtronic rep and was told that I will be receiving a 751. It is my understanding that the models that fall under what I called 700 series differ from their 500 series counterparts only in the amount of insulin their reservoirs hold, making the 700 models larger because they hold a larger reservoir. It is my understanding that a 751 works like a 551; it just holds 3.0ml rather than the 1.6ml my current 500 series reservoirs will hold. Of course, I?ll keep you posted when I receive the 751, ?in case I experience anything you all should know.
Amy
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From underdogmj at comcast.net  Mon Oct  8 16:12:53 2018
From: underdogmj at comcast.net (Lester Cameron)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 12:12:53 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip
In-Reply-To: <9C8E104E-B2A8-458A-810B-415A3D46DFBB@gmail.com>
References: <7714563F-7B85-4C1F-B53B-7FB187794329@gmail.com>
	<9C8E104E-B2A8-458A-810B-415A3D46DFBB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96E35609DA7F40A0B6C63863DCECFC16@mesmjcomputer>

Hello looking for blood
Hi am Less
I having to get blood out of my finger for about 15 years
I do it the easiest way I just put my meter right at the end of my elbow 
because that all ways ends up rite there
I am just joking this is my way of getting blood to my fingers
I do one or two things
First I lat my hand hang down and wiggle it or I pump my finger or just 
swing your arm around in a circle one or two times
do this before you stick your finger Ha Ha
On a sirius  note I have notice that If I have extra salt like on a apple my 
blood numbers change foot note I never use salt at any of my meals
Just one more note
At the time you wash your hands to take your blood just wash them in warm 
water because soap,dish soap has animal  fat and I have a list of  hundred 
of thing that  that can change the numbers  I am not telling any thing that 
you guys do not no already
Love and have a nice number day

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mary Sanders via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 4:06 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Mary Sanders
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Blood on Test Strip

The one time I successfully got enough blood on the test strip was when I 
was with somebody cited, and the interesting thing is between the finger pad 
and the sides I got two different readings. One was 95, the other was 116. 
Any reason as to why they are so different? Unfortunately, I will not have 
anyone cited to assist and I want to be able to do this independently. Thank 
you guys for your help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Mary Sanders <sanders.mary1992 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I?m having a really hard time getting enough blood on to the test strip. I?ve 
> tried both the sides of my fingers as well as the pads of my fingers and 
> still struggling. I am totally blind so I don?t have any vision to tell 
> how much is on my finger so if I can please get some tips from you guys 
> that would be very much appreciated. I am using the clever choice voice 
> meter.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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From nephisvision at gmail.com  Sun Oct 14 18:12:40 2018
From: nephisvision at gmail.com (Kubehl Family)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 13:12:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Protigy meter set up
Message-ID: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>

I'm getting a prodigy meeter. I'm so stoked!!!! How much sighted assistance do I need to set it up?


Rhonda Kubehl


From gwocher at gwocher.com  Sun Oct 14 19:10:42 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:10:42 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Protigy meter set up
In-Reply-To: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>
References: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCDA910E-1863-4384-8D84-FB73C68AC724@gwocher.com>

Hello,
If it is the Prodigy Voice none at all. If it is the Prodigy autocode you will need some to set up the time, date and other options. I believe once setup is completed on the autocode, you will not need any sighted help after that. 

Greg Wocher

> On Oct 14, 2018, at 2:12 PM, Kubehl Family via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm getting a prodigy meeter. I'm so stoked!!!! How much sighted assistance do I need to set it up?
> 
> 
> Rhonda Kubehl
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Oct 14 20:39:43 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Protigy meter set up
In-Reply-To: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>
References: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EC219E9C-2885-4980-82B0-DB32B2F0F008@gmail.com>

If it is the Prodigy Voice, then you will be able to set it up your self. If it is the one that Greg is talking about, you will need someone to initially set it up for you. You will be able to use that one independently until it is time to change the time if you live somewhere that either springs ahead or falls backwards!

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Kubehl Family via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm getting a prodigy meeter. I'm so stoked!!!! How much sighted assistance do I need to set it up?
> 
> 
> Rhonda Kubehl
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From nephisvision at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 03:51:50 2018
From: nephisvision at gmail.com (Kubehl Family)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 22:51:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Protigy meter set up
In-Reply-To: <EC219E9C-2885-4980-82B0-DB32B2F0F008@gmail.com>
References: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>
	<EC219E9C-2885-4980-82B0-DB32B2F0F008@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B559707E-9BF1-46C8-812D-9833A61DAADB@gmail.com>

Thank you! It's the protigy voice, and I've set it up. Thank you for your help.

Rhonda Kubehl

> On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If it is the Prodigy Voice, then you will be able to set it up your self. If it is the one that Greg is talking about, you will need someone to initially set it up for you. You will be able to use that one independently until it is time to change the time if you live somewhere that either springs ahead or falls backwards!
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Kubehl Family via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm getting a prodigy meeter. I'm so stoked!!!! How much sighted assistance do I need to set it up?
>> 
>> 
>> Rhonda Kubehl
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 11:27:56 2018
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 07:27:56 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Protigy meter set up
In-Reply-To: <EC219E9C-2885-4980-82B0-DB32B2F0F008@gmail.com>
References: <E64F357C-F74D-486D-B90A-3731967DA8FB@gmail.com>
	<EC219E9C-2885-4980-82B0-DB32B2F0F008@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9644F77B-DD47-4466-ADEF-E8AF3AC8E007@gmail.com>



Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> If it is the Prodigy Voice, then you will be able to set it up your self. If it is the one that Greg is talking about, you will need someone to initially set it up for you. You will be able to use that one independently until it is time to change the time if you live somewhere that either springs ahead or falls backwards!
> 
>    Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Kubehl Family via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm getting a prodigy meeter. I'm so stoked!!!! How much sighted assistance do I need to set it up?
>> 
>> 
>> Rhonda Kubehl
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> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bernienfb75%40gmail.comAbsolutely none Darling.  Hopefully it?s actually the Prodigy Voice, ass opposed to the ?Autocode?  Either way, call me when you get it if you have trouble.  I worked for Prodigy for four years.  :I walked countless people through all that.  I can text you my number again if you need it.  

Bernie





From everett at everettgavel.com  Tue Oct 16 17:25:01 2018
From: everett at everettgavel.com (everett at everettgavel.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:25:01 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Working With My Medtronic Paradigm Rebel Pump,
 Myself?
Message-ID: <003501d46575$2bb4df80$831e9e80$@everettgavel.com>

Please forgive me if this topic is old news. I have not been able to keep up
with the digests for a while now, even though I count this group as probably
in my top 3 groups. This group and you all, are great. Seriously. And that's
why I'm now asking for input, help, advice, instructions whatever I can get
from y'all -- to help me hopefully learn how to change out and refill, etc.,
my own Paradigm Rebel pump? 

Feel free to contact me offlist, or share it here. Either way is fine and
dandy. I just need help quickly and am hoping for a miracle, honestly. And
I've found over the years here, that if God won't provide it directly, Him
working through y'all is the most likely and next best thing.  (smile) 


Thanks, All,
Everett
In Colorado Springs, USA
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Oct 16 18:29:08 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Working With My Medtronic Paradigm Rebel Pump,
 Myself?
In-Reply-To: <003501d46575$2bb4df80$831e9e80$@everettgavel.com>
References: <003501d46575$2bb4df80$831e9e80$@everettgavel.com>
Message-ID: <1A3F8B6A6F9643EC88D36C2F508E8ED5@eileen>

Hi Everett,

I?m using the Medtronics Paradigm Revel, so exactly what have you been doing to change out your infusion set? Have you done any of it on your own? Have you had any training with a pump trainer or a diabetic educator? Exactly where are you hung up? 

Eileen

From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:25 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org 
Cc: everett at everettgavel.com 
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Working With My Medtronic Paradigm Rebel Pump, Myself?

Please forgive me if this topic is old news. I have not been able to keep up
with the digests for a while now, even though I count this group as probably
in my top 3 groups. This group and you all, are great. Seriously. And that's
why I'm now asking for input, help, advice, instructions whatever I can get
from y'all -- to help me hopefully learn how to change out and refill, etc.,
my own Paradigm Rebel pump? 

Feel free to contact me offlist, or share it here. Either way is fine and
dandy. I just need help quickly and am hoping for a miracle, honestly. And
I've found over the years here, that if God won't provide it directly, Him
working through y'all is the most likely and next best thing.  (smile) 


Thanks, All,
Everett
In Colorado Springs, USA
everett at everettgavel.com




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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 05:46:05 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:46:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] re how your trip going
Message-ID: <008101d465dc$b3088ec0$1919ac40$@gmail.com>

Hello hows your trip going.hopefully your enjoying yoru time away from  all
stresses in life. Hopefully it wil help your  numbness issues with your leg.
Things are so so with me.i am taking day by day.my mom is getting better.she
jus saw her doctor yesterday and getting bette day by day.hoping ot find our
house by end of year.  



From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Oct 17 16:07:45 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:07:45 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
Message-ID: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>

Hi All,

I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.

I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!

I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.

Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.

Eileen
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Oct 17 16:45:30 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:45:30 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
Message-ID: <000c01d46638$d089cac0$719d6040$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Since you've recently replaced your pump, you might consider just going along for a few years with what you have. Does Medicare require you to upgrade in order to pay for supplies?
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:08 AM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi All,

I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.

I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!

I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.

Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.

Eileen




From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Oct 17 17:20:08 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:20:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <000c01d46638$d089cac0$719d6040$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
	<000c01d46638$d089cac0$719d6040$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <5AB9667287554EE0985182873706F000@eileen>

Hi  Veronica, 

I think they will, but I am feeling uncertain about it. Just like with testing equipment and strips, its often been the case we find that once the meter, or in this case insulin pump, goes off the market then getting supplies for it becomes difficult if not impossible. Since I don?t have faith in Medtronics and what they will do I am worried about not only getting supplies covered but just finding them.

I can stick with the current pump since I believe it will have several more years of good working life. If I can?t buy a pump that will give warrantee coverage then that is probably what I?ll end up doing.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Since you've recently replaced your pump, you might consider just going along for a few years with what you have. Does Medicare require you to upgrade in order to pay for supplies?
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:08 AM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi All,

I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.

I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!

I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.

Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.

Eileen


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Oct 17 18:01:37 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:01:37 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <5AB9667287554EE0985182873706F000@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<000c01d46638$d089cac0$719d6040$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<5AB9667287554EE0985182873706F000@eileen>
Message-ID: <001801d46643$73293770$597ba650$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Well, at least you're pretty safe for now in that the new pumps still use the same cannulas and tubing so you wouldn't be losing that in the near future, at least. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:20 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi  Veronica, 

I think they will, but I am feeling uncertain about it. Just like with testing equipment and strips, its often been the case we find that once the meter, or in this case insulin pump, goes off the market then getting supplies for it becomes difficult if not impossible. Since I don?t have faith in Medtronics and what they will do I am worried about not only getting supplies covered but just finding them.

I can stick with the current pump since I believe it will have several more years of good working life. If I can?t buy a pump that will give warrantee coverage then that is probably what I?ll end up doing.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:45 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Since you've recently replaced your pump, you might consider just going along for a few years with what you have. Does Medicare require you to upgrade in order to pay for supplies?
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:08 AM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk
Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi All,

I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.

I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!

I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.

Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.

Eileen


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 21:52:38 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (bkpollpeter at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:52:38 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <5AB9667287554EE0985182873706F000@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
	<000c01d46638$d089cac0$719d6040$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<5AB9667287554EE0985182873706F000@eileen>
Message-ID: <4B00176D-1A7C-4AF4-AC3E-AA9189659696@gmail.com>

I am upgrading to the med Tronic 530 GE myself. It?s been a headache dealing with insurance and med Tronic on this, but, it is working out. The supply is used for the 730 and 630 are the same for the 530, so getting supplies is not an issue. If you get the 530 before October 26, you are still good for up to four years with the warranty. After that though, they probably will no longer provide a warranty for anyone with the 530 G. The biggest obstacle for me in this whole upgrade has been that my current pump, which is an animus, does not technically  expire until this December, so, we had to fight insurance on paying for the med Tronic pump so we can get it by October 26 so I can be under the warranty. My doctors made it all work out, but, I am lucky in this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi  Veronica, 
> 
> I think they will, but I am feeling uncertain about it. Just like with testing equipment and strips, its often been the case we find that once the meter, or in this case insulin pump, goes off the market then getting supplies for it becomes difficult if not impossible. Since I don?t have faith in Medtronics and what they will do I am worried about not only getting supplies covered but just finding them.
> 
> I can stick with the current pump since I believe it will have several more years of good working life. If I can?t buy a pump that will give warrantee coverage then that is probably what I?ll end up doing.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:45 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Veronica Elsea 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Since you've recently replaced your pump, you might consider just going along for a few years with what you have. Does Medicare require you to upgrade in order to pay for supplies?
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:08 AM
> To: NFB Diabetes Talk
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 22:17:32 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:17:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
Message-ID: <971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Oct 18 01:13:45 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:13:45 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Oct 18 02:09:32 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:09:32 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen><971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>
	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <53E751DF88064EBDB420CE42617C2757@eileen>

Thanks. Also good to know.

Eileen
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:13 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: blindhands at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
> _______________________________________________
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 16:58:32 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (bkpollpeter at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 11:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>
	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9D15D2E4-F548-4F2A-AE07-21FB68686CC1@gmail.com>

The warranty on my animus does not expire until December, but, my doctor was able to work with Medicare, explaining why I need to get the med Tronic 530 G now. And, they are willing to pay for the upgrade. I?m only going to have to pay $300 out-of-pocket. Med Tronic also told me and my diabetes educator that the med Tronic 530 warranty will be good for four years. As long as it is purchased before October 26. After that, it will not be under warranty.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:13 PM, blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Oct 18 17:46:28 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 13:46:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <9D15D2E4-F548-4F2A-AE07-21FB68686CC1@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen><971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com><e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
	<9D15D2E4-F548-4F2A-AE07-21FB68686CC1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <927CF754C4D24824B85C2E7AB468B1F7@eileen>

In my conversations with the Medtronics rep for my area, they will sell me a 530G series pump for $799. He specifically told me that should I decide to buy that pump it will not have a 4 year warrantee, but instead the warrantee is good until January 31 which is when my current pump?s 5th year anniversary date is. I asked about getting my doctor to write a letter of medical necessity and he told me that there is no way possible I could get the 530G paperwork completed by next Friday, the date Medtronics is discontinuing these models. I have a call into my doctor?s office to find out if there is anything they can do to help me get a pump with the full warrantee period.

They really and truely suck!

Eileen that the 

From: bkpollpeter--- via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:58 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind 
Cc: bkpollpeter at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The warranty on my animus does not expire until December, but, my doctor was able to work with Medicare, explaining why I need to get the med Tronic 530 G now. And, they are willing to pay for the upgrade. I?m only going to have to pay $300 out-of-pocket. Med Tronic also told me and my diabetes educator that the med Tronic 530 warranty will be good for four years. As long as it is purchased before October 26. After that, it will not be under warranty.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:13 PM, blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 17:55:57 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:55:57 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>
	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Oct 19 19:15:28 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Oct 19 19:17:30 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:17:30 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004b01d467e0$61a0f260$24e2d720$@aol.com>

Just to clarify:  I use the SureT tubing, but in another kind there is another step at the end that I don't have to do.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Oct 19 20:11:23 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:11:23 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <004b01d467e0$61a0f260$24e2d720$@aol.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com><002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
	<004b01d467e0$61a0f260$24e2d720$@aol.com>
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Joyce,

Out of curiousity, are you saying that the tubing is not pre-attached to the infusion set? I use the Meo infusion set and the tubing is on it, I haven?t a clue what the tubing is other than the length of it. The steps you previously described sound very similar to what I do using the Paradigm 723 model.

Thanks.

Eileen ? who is still up in the air as to what to do regarding buying a pump out of pocket that will not come with a 4 or 5 year warrantee.

From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:17 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: blindhands at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just to clarify:  I use the SureT tubing, but in another kind there is another step at the end that I don't have to do.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Oct 19 21:48:35 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:48:35 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <9B6DDC87ED3E453693701DA9D0A53D88@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com><002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004b01d467e0$61a0f260$24e2d720$@aol.com>
	<9B6DDC87ED3E453693701DA9D0A53D88@eileen>
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With what I am using which is called at least I am not sure how they spell it.

SureT  This is the needle which is attached to a small amount of tubing and has a adapter that is attached to the skin bia tape and has a locking piece that locks into the longer length of tubing.  The long length of tubing has the maile end of the lock, the length of tubing and on the opposite end has a cylinder type with a needle that goes into the syringe type that holds the insulin.  This cylinder which is the syringe unit is a syringe with a plunger on one end and a plastic that has a needle in it which you put the bottle of insulin in to  draw the insulin into the syringe.

There is no sound [clicking] when you draw up the insulin, but basically my thumb's with equals about 200 units.   I put elastics on my box of insulin to determine how many units I have used out of a bottle and I do toss away a portion of what is left in the bottle.  Since I can't see the bottle nor the syringe I rather toss it then come up short in the syringe.  That is how I was taught thru the medtronic's trainer.

Joyce
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:11 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

Out of curiousity, are you saying that the tubing is not pre-attached to the infusion set? I use the Meo infusion set and the tubing is on it, I haven?t a clue what the tubing is other than the length of it. The steps you previously described sound very similar to what I do using the Paradigm 723 model.

Thanks.

Eileen ? who is still up in the air as to what to do regarding buying a pump out of pocket that will not come with a 4 or 5 year warrantee.

From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:17 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: blindhands at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just to clarify:  I use the SureT tubing, but in another kind there is another step at the end that I don't have to do.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sat Oct 20 00:59:15 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 19:59:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
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Thanks!  I'm sure I will eventually get it just like I did with the Animas pump.  

I know exactly which infusion set you are using.  I tried the same type with the Spirit pump.  It is like a little thumb tack that you stab in to yourself without needing an insertion device.  The part you disconnect from the long part of the tubing is called the pigtail.  I liked it when my kids were younger, and I was in the pool with them.   It made it easier to disconnect from the pump without sticking my hand up in to my swimsuit!  The tack, as I called it was metal instead of the plastic cannula in other infusion sets and became irritated too quickly in me.  So, I stopped using it.  

I appreciate knowing what to do if I do mess up during the process though, since I wasn't sure how to start over.  I get to try it again within the next day or so.  

				Jamie


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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From 1.sally at comcast.net  Fri Oct 26 14:22:29 2018
From: 1.sally at comcast.net (Sally Maguire)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 07:22:29 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors
Message-ID: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>

7.FDA-cleared blood glucose (BG) monitors not always accurate  In a series
of tests, only 6 of 18 BG monitoring systems that have been cleared by the
FDA consistently delivered levels of accuracy based on international and US
regulatory standards. "Many patients complain that their blood glucose
monitor system is not accurate," D Klonoff Mills Peninsula  said. Dr K and
team did a study with a consensus protocol for testing and metrics of
accuracy that were developed by an expert panel including: leading
clinicians, clinical chemists, patient advocates, and gov regulators from
FDA, CDC and NIH.  Systems were tested in 3 triple-masked studies with each
of 3 clinic sites testing a different set of 6 systems for each study. 1,035
adults with type 1 diabetes (T1D), T2D or prediabetes had capillary BG
level measured on 6 different systems as well as a reference capillary
sample prepared for plasma testing at a reference lab. On average each
monitor was tested by 115 subjects. Six of the 18 systems met the
predetermined accuracy standard in all 3 studies: Counter Next, Accu-Chek
Aviva Plus, Reli-On Confirm Micro , Advanced , FreeStyle Lite and Accu-Check
SmartView.  5 monitors met the accuracy standard in two studies, 3 met it in
one study and 4 did not meet the accuracy standard in any of the 3 studies.
The team concluded  that, in some cases, BG monitors may result in treatment
errors when patients depend on accurate results to determine  RX. Klonoff
says  "There is a role for post-market testing of some products, like [BG
monitors], after these products are cleared by FDA and are on the market,
Their performance in the real world might, in some cases, be different from
what it was at the time the product was originally tested for clearance
purposes.  The FDA needs to be granted more authority from the US Congress
to remove poorly performing products from the marketplace after they are
cleared." Supported by Abbott Diabetes Care. Klonoff reports he is a
consultant for (includes ) Ascensia and EOFlow, has received research
funding from Diasome, Lexicon and Novo Nordisk; and is an employee of the
Diabetes Technology Society. Diabetes Care;Healio 10/9/18

 



From etscrivani at verizon.net  Fri Oct 26 14:58:08 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:58:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors
In-Reply-To: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
References: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1E9EE0A361924F638789009197B93690@eileen>

Hi Sally,

Good study. I do think that there are a number of us on this list that could have told them exactly what the study shows ? all glucose meters are not Created equal. 

Good to hear from you and hope you?re doing well.

Eileen

From: Sally Maguire via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 10:22 AM
To: acb-diabetics <acb-diabetics at acblists. org> 
Cc: Sally Maguire ; rich Gill ; Milo442.mm at gmail.com ; diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org ; miriam Plautz 
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors

7.FDA-cleared blood glucose (BG) monitors not always accurate  In a series
of tests, only 6 of 18 BG monitoring systems that have been cleared by the
FDA consistently delivered levels of accuracy based on international and US
regulatory standards. "Many patients complain that their blood glucose
monitor system is not accurate," D Klonoff Mills Peninsula  said. Dr K and
team did a study with a consensus protocol for testing and metrics of
accuracy that were developed by an expert panel including: leading
clinicians, clinical chemists, patient advocates, and gov regulators from
FDA, CDC and NIH.  Systems were tested in 3 triple-masked studies with each
of 3 clinic sites testing a different set of 6 systems for each study. 1,035
adults with type 1 diabetes (T1D), T2D or prediabetes had capillary BG
level measured on 6 different systems as well as a reference capillary
sample prepared for plasma testing at a reference lab. On average each
monitor was tested by 115 subjects. Six of the 18 systems met the
predetermined accuracy standard in all 3 studies: Counter Next, Accu-Chek
Aviva Plus, Reli-On Confirm Micro , Advanced , FreeStyle Lite and Accu-Check
SmartView.  5 monitors met the accuracy standard in two studies, 3 met it in
one study and 4 did not meet the accuracy standard in any of the 3 studies.
The team concluded  that, in some cases, BG monitors may result in treatment
errors when patients depend on accurate results to determine  RX. Klonoff
says  "There is a role for post-market testing of some products, like [BG
monitors], after these products are cleared by FDA and are on the market,
Their performance in the real world might, in some cases, be different from
what it was at the time the product was originally tested for clearance
purposes.  The FDA needs to be granted more authority from the US Congress
to remove poorly performing products from the marketplace after they are
cleared." Supported by Abbott Diabetes Care. Klonoff reports he is a
consultant for (includes ) Ascensia and EOFlow, has received research
funding from Diasome, Lexicon and Novo Nordisk; and is an employee of the
Diabetes Technology Society. Diabetes Care;Healio 10/9/18

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 16:26:49 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:26:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors
In-Reply-To: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
References: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <024001d46d48$b2f3ebf0$18dbc3d0$@gmail.com>

Since the invention of the home meter, it's been known that the accuracy isn't as great as an A1-C. That's why it's so important we see a specialist on a regular basis and have our A1-C tested. Some meters are of course better than others. But, I will say, in my 30 plus years of being diabetic, using several types of meters, I've never had the accuracy so far off it didn't match closely to my A1-Cs ?

Bridgit

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Cc: Sally Maguire <1.sally at comcast.net>; rich Gill <Rgz06 at att.net>; Milo442.mm at gmail.com; diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org; miriam Plautz <s4health at astound.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors

7.FDA-cleared blood glucose (BG) monitors not always accurate  In a series of tests, only 6 of 18 BG monitoring systems that have been cleared by the FDA consistently delivered levels of accuracy based on international and US regulatory standards. "Many patients complain that their blood glucose monitor system is not accurate," D Klonoff Mills Peninsula  said. Dr K and team did a study with a consensus protocol for testing and metrics of accuracy that were developed by an expert panel including: leading clinicians, clinical chemists, patient advocates, and gov regulators from FDA, CDC and NIH.  Systems were tested in 3 triple-masked studies with each of 3 clinic sites testing a different set of 6 systems for each study. 1,035 adults with type 1 diabetes (T1D), T2D or prediabetes had capillary BG level measured on 6 different systems as well as a reference capillary sample prepared for plasma testing at a reference lab. On average each monitor was tested by 115 subjects. Six of the 18 systems met the predetermined accuracy standard in all 3 studies: Counter Next, Accu-Chek Aviva Plus, Reli-On Confirm Micro , Advanced , FreeStyle Lite and Accu-Check SmartView.  5 monitors met the accuracy standard in two studies, 3 met it in one study and 4 did not meet the accuracy standard in any of the 3 studies.
The team concluded  that, in some cases, BG monitors may result in treatment errors when patients depend on accurate results to determine  RX. Klonoff says  "There is a role for post-market testing of some products, like [BG monitors], after these products are cleared by FDA and are on the market, Their performance in the real world might, in some cases, be different from what it was at the time the product was originally tested for clearance purposes.  The FDA needs to be granted more authority from the US Congress to remove poorly performing products from the marketplace after they are cleared." Supported by Abbott Diabetes Care. Klonoff reports he is a consultant for (includes ) Ascensia and EOFlow, has received research funding from Diasome, Lexicon and Novo Nordisk; and is an employee of the Diabetes Technology Society. Diabetes Care;Healio 10/9/18

 

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Oct 27 01:55:24 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:55:24 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors
In-Reply-To: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
References: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <009201d46d98$209ddc20$61d99460$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

And I'm not sure if the Prodigy even has FDA clearance. But it certainly
flunks the accuracy standard. 
This is a travesty.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sally Maguire via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 7:22 AM
To: acb-diabetics <acb-diabetics at acblists. org>
Cc: Sally Maguire; rich Gill; Milo442.mm at gmail.com;
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org; miriam Plautz
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors

7.FDA-cleared blood glucose (BG) monitors not always accurate  In a series
of tests, only 6 of 18 BG monitoring systems that have been cleared by the
FDA consistently delivered levels of accuracy based on international and US
regulatory standards. "Many patients complain that their blood glucose
monitor system is not accurate," D Klonoff Mills Peninsula  said. Dr K and
team did a study with a consensus protocol for testing and metrics of
accuracy that were developed by an expert panel including: leading
clinicians, clinical chemists, patient advocates, and gov regulators from
FDA, CDC and NIH.  Systems were tested in 3 triple-masked studies with each
of 3 clinic sites testing a different set of 6 systems for each study. 1,035
adults with type 1 diabetes (T1D), T2D or prediabetes had capillary BG
level measured on 6 different systems as well as a reference capillary
sample prepared for plasma testing at a reference lab. On average each
monitor was tested by 115 subjects. Six of the 18 systems met the
predetermined accuracy standard in all 3 studies: Counter Next, Accu-Chek
Aviva Plus, Reli-On Confirm Micro , Advanced , FreeStyle Lite and Accu-Check
SmartView.  5 monitors met the accuracy standard in two studies, 3 met it in
one study and 4 did not meet the accuracy standard in any of the 3 studies.
The team concluded  that, in some cases, BG monitors may result in treatment
errors when patients depend on accurate results to determine  RX. Klonoff
says  "There is a role for post-market testing of some products, like [BG
monitors], after these products are cleared by FDA and are on the market,
Their performance in the real world might, in some cases, be different from
what it was at the time the product was originally tested for clearance
purposes.  The FDA needs to be granted more authority from the US Congress
to remove poorly performing products from the marketplace after they are
cleared." Supported by Abbott Diabetes Care. Klonoff reports he is a
consultant for (includes ) Ascensia and EOFlow, has received research
funding from Diasome, Lexicon and Novo Nordisk; and is an employee of the
Diabetes Technology Society. Diabetes Care;Healio 10/9/18

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Oct 27 05:38:15 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 00:38:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors
In-Reply-To: <009201d46d98$209ddc20$61d99460$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <00a201d46d37$540bdf00$fc239d00$@comcast.net>
	<009201d46d98$209ddc20$61d99460$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <037401d46db7$428aea70$c7a0bf50$@gmail.com>

The Prodigy is FDA approved and did pass accuracy standards a few years ago.
For me, the Prodigy has been accurate, but, it doesn't mean it's across the
board. I do want to check out the Clever just so I have options. Grin.

Bridgit

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Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors

And I'm not sure if the Prodigy even has FDA clearance. But it certainly
flunks the accuracy standard. 
This is a travesty.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
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Sally Maguire via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 7:22 AM
To: acb-diabetics <acb-diabetics at acblists. org>
Cc: Sally Maguire; rich Gill; Milo442.mm at gmail.com;
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org; miriam Plautz
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] AAccuracy of glucose monitors

7.FDA-cleared blood glucose (BG) monitors not always accurate  In a series
of tests, only 6 of 18 BG monitoring systems that have been cleared by the
FDA consistently delivered levels of accuracy based on international and US
regulatory standards. "Many patients complain that their blood glucose
monitor system is not accurate," D Klonoff Mills Peninsula  said. Dr K and
team did a study with a consensus protocol for testing and metrics of
accuracy that were developed by an expert panel including: leading
clinicians, clinical chemists, patient advocates, and gov regulators from
FDA, CDC and NIH.  Systems were tested in 3 triple-masked studies with each
of 3 clinic sites testing a different set of 6 systems for each study. 1,035
adults with type 1 diabetes (T1D), T2D or prediabetes had capillary BG level
measured on 6 different systems as well as a reference capillary sample
prepared for plasma testing at a reference lab. On average each monitor was
tested by 115 subjects. Six of the 18 systems met the predetermined accuracy
standard in all 3 studies: Counter Next, Accu-Chek Aviva Plus, Reli-On
Confirm Micro , Advanced , FreeStyle Lite and Accu-Check SmartView.  5
monitors met the accuracy standard in two studies, 3 met it in one study and
4 did not meet the accuracy standard in any of the 3 studies.
The team concluded  that, in some cases, BG monitors may result in treatment
errors when patients depend on accurate results to determine  RX. Klonoff
says  "There is a role for post-market testing of some products, like [BG
monitors], after these products are cleared by FDA and are on the market,
Their performance in the real world might, in some cases, be different from
what it was at the time the product was originally tested for clearance
purposes.  The FDA needs to be granted more authority from the US Congress
to remove poorly performing products from the marketplace after they are
cleared." Supported by Abbott Diabetes Care. Klonoff reports he is a
consultant for (includes ) Ascensia and EOFlow, has received research
funding from Diasome, Lexicon and Novo Nordisk; and is an employee of the
Diabetes Technology Society. Diabetes Care;Healio 10/9/18

 

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