From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Thu Nov  1 19:31:36 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:31:36 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
Message-ID: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>

Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for 48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get support from others, and have some fun while doing so!

Sent from Melanie's i phone


From debbiewunder at charter.net  Thu Nov  1 19:49:21 2018
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (Debbie Wunder)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:49:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <00a301d4721b$fc2ae4e0$f480aea0$@charter.net>

Hello Melanie, welcome to the list!


 What affiliate to you come from? I Live in Columbia Missouri, and I serve
on the DAN board.



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melanie
Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:32 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for
48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including
diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward
to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get
support from others, and have some fun while doing so!

Sent from Melanie's i phone
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 21:31:46 2018
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:31:46 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>
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Hello Melanie, welcome to the list. I hope that you find our conversations
informational as well uplifting. I live in Cincinnati and I am a member of
the DAN of Ohio. Again, welcome!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
(513) 582-8606
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:32 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Melanie Torrance
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for
48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including
diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward
to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get
support from others, and have some fun while doing so!

Sent from Melanie's i phone
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 21:34:36 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:34:36 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <012101d4722a$4b4b3580$e1e1a080$@gmail.com>
References: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>
	<012101d4722a$4b4b3580$e1e1a080$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <047401d4722a$b0a456a0$11ed03e0$@gmail.com>

Who runs the dan of California if such one exists.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Walter
Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Hello Melanie, welcome to the list. I hope that you find our conversations
informational as well uplifting. I live in Cincinnati and I am a member of
the DAN of Ohio. Again, welcome!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
(513) 582-8606
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:32 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Melanie Torrance
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for
48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including
diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward
to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get
support from others, and have some fun while doing so!

Sent from Melanie's i phone
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From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Thu Nov  1 22:17:04 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 18:17:04 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
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References: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>
	<012101d4722a$4b4b3580$e1e1a080$@gmail.com>
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Thanks Walter! Nice to meet you and look forward to future conversations.
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Melanie, welcome to the list. I hope that you find our conversations
> informational as well uplifting. I live in Cincinnati and I am a member of
> the DAN of Ohio. Again, welcome!
> 
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
> (513) 582-8606
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:32 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Melanie Torrance
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
> 
> Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for
> 48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including
> diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward
> to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get
> support from others, and have some fun while doing so!
> 
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Nov  1 22:31:57 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:31:57 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <B77E17F5-A5C6-46DC-A472-01C7FE63DD70@icloud.com>
References: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>	<012101d4722a$4b4b3580$e1e1a080$@gmail.com>
	<B77E17F5-A5C6-46DC-A472-01C7FE63DD70@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <001c01d47232$b2e6fa00$18b4ee00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi Melanie.
Welcome to the list. Here we have a nice variety of experiences to share. I
find it a very safe place on the good and the bad days. I live in Santa
Cruz, California and have been a type 1 for 30 years.
I am currently using the Omnipod insulin pump and the Dexcom G6 CGM. I hope
you enjoy this list as much as I have and I look forward to what you'll
bring to the rest of us as well.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:17 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Melanie Torrance
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Thanks Walter! Nice to meet you and look forward to future conversations.
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Melanie, welcome to the list. I hope that you find our conversations
> informational as well uplifting. I live in Cincinnati and I am a member of
> the DAN of Ohio. Again, welcome!
> 
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
> (513) 582-8606
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:32 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Melanie Torrance
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
> 
> Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes
for
> 48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes,
including
> diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking
forward
> to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences,
get
> support from others, and have some fun while doing so!
> 
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 22:34:39 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (bkpollpeter at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:34:39 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <00a301d4721b$fc2ae4e0$f480aea0$@charter.net>
References: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>
	<00a301d4721b$fc2ae4e0$f480aea0$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <5E38C928-3EA7-4831-8D14-5E8C0584A4B2@gmail.com>

Hello and welcome to the list. I've been type one diabetic for more than 30 years, and I have been blind for 15 of those years. I'm totally blind. I've been on insulin pump for those 15 years as well. This is a great list, and there are a lot of people here who can really be of some great help in answering questions.

Bridget

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Debbie Wunder via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Melanie, welcome to the list!
> 
> 
> What affiliate to you come from? I Live in Columbia Missouri, and I serve
> on the DAN board.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melanie
> Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:32 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
> 
> Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for
> 48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including
> diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward
> to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get
> support from others, and have some fun while doing so!
> 
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
> _______________________________________________
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 23:13:31 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 18:13:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <B77E17F5-A5C6-46DC-A472-01C7FE63DD70@icloud.com>
References: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>	<012101d4722a$4b4b3580$e1e1a080$@gmail.com>
	<B77E17F5-A5C6-46DC-A472-01C7FE63DD70@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <005d01d47238$81eff9f0$85cfedd0$@gmail.com>

Hi Melanie!  Welcome to the list.  I have been a Type 1 diabetic for 49
years and lost my eyesight from retinopathy 31 years ago.  I have been an
insulin pump user for 20 years and recently had to switch to the Medtronic
Minimed 530G.  I also use the Dexcom G6.  Hope you find this list as helpful
as I have over the last few years.

				Jamie
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melanie
Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:17 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Thanks Walter! Nice to meet you and look forward to future conversations.
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Melanie, welcome to the list. I hope that you find our 
> conversations informational as well uplifting. I live in Cincinnati 
> and I am a member of the DAN of Ohio. Again, welcome!
> 
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
> (513) 582-8606
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:32 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Melanie Torrance
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
> 
> Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 
> diabetes for
> 48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, 
> including diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so 
> looking forward to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to 
> share my experiences, get support from others, and have some fun while
doing so!
> 
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
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> ch2%40
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> 
> 
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 01:10:35 2018
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 18:10:35 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list
In-Reply-To: <047401d4722a$b0a456a0$11ed03e0$@gmail.com>
References: <2371FE70-A99A-48DC-8386-6B9867C8D2BD@icloud.com>	<012101d4722a$4b4b3580$e1e1a080$@gmail.com>
	<047401d4722a$b0a456a0$11ed03e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01d47248$dcaaa650$95fff2f0$@gmail.com>

Hi Gary,
Yes, the National Federation of the Blind of California does have an active
Diabetes Action Network.  This past weekend we had our state convention and
I was re-elected as President of DAN of California.  I am also, on the
National Board of DAN as Treasurer and I have had type 1 Diabetes for 52
years.  I am using the Dexcom G6 with expert help from Veronica because I am
technology challenged!  With her help it is working out great!

Sincerely, Joy Stigile


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Who runs the dan of California if such one exists.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Walter
Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Hello Melanie, welcome to the list. I hope that you find our conversations
informational as well uplifting. I live in Cincinnati and I am a member of
the DAN of Ohio. Again, welcome!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Board member, National Diabetes Action Network
(513) 582-8606
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:32 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Melanie Torrance
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] New to list

Hello everyone! My name is Melanie and I have lived with Type 1 diabetes for
48 years. As a result, I have numerous complications of diabetes, including
diabetic retinopathy which has caused my low vision. I am so looking forward
to being part of this group. Hoping to be able to share my experiences, get
support from others, and have some fun while doing so!

Sent from Melanie's i phone
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Fri Nov  2 13:23:17 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 09:23:17 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
Message-ID: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>

Hello all,
I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?

Greg Wocher




From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Fri Nov  2 13:30:34 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 09:30:34 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
Message-ID: <5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>

I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to go for the podcast you watched?
Melanie Torrance

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
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From ergreen1981 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 13:42:02 2018
From: ergreen1981 at gmail.com (Edward Green)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 13:42:02 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <8A7752A6-409C-43BE-9864-5AD66D6B173E@gmail.com>

Hi Greg,

Yes I use it. I don't know if this option is available to you, but in the UK, there's an app for the phone which will allow you to use your phone to scan the censor without needing the inaccessible reader, and it's accessible with Voiceover.

Cheers,

Ed 


> On 2 Nov 2018, at 13:30, Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to go for the podcast you watched?
> Melanie Torrance
> 
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Fri Nov  2 14:08:37 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:08:37 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <8A7752A6-409C-43BE-9864-5AD66D6B173E@gmail.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
	<8A7752A6-409C-43BE-9864-5AD66D6B173E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37CE7EBB-02EC-43C4-B33F-13BAB6D759AF@gwocher.com>

Hello,
From what I understand the app is not yet available here in the United States. To find the podcast just do a search in your podcast app for accessibility moving forward or do a google search for it. I don?t have a link for it. I use overcast on my iPhone to listen to it. 

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Yes I use it. I don't know if this option is available to you, but in the UK, there's an app for the phone which will allow you to use your phone to scan the censor without needing the inaccessible reader, and it's accessible with Voiceover.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ed 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 13:30, Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to go for the podcast you watched?
>> Melanie Torrance
>> 
>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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From deniserob at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 14:16:06 2018
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:16:06 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom. Which
you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and highs.
The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if your
blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will give you
wrong glucose numbers
I anticipate that it will be a good product after they fix these issues.

* Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
Impaired
425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com

[image: TechVision Logo]
?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?





On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to go for
> the podcast you watched?
> Melanie Torrance
>
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>
> > On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward
> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre.
> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked
> quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for
> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a
> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
> >
> > Greg Wocher
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> >
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>
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From ergreen1981 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 14:47:37 2018
From: ergreen1981 at gmail.com (Edward Green)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>

Hi Denise,

The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?

I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest. It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I haven't been doing that of late.

I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I stop doing so.

Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.

Cheers,

Ed 


> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom. Which
> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and highs.
> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if your
> blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will give you
> wrong glucose numbers
> I anticipate that it will be a good product after they fix these issues.
> 
> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> 
> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> 
> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
> Impaired
> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> [image: TechVision Logo]
> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to go for
>> the podcast you watched?
>> Melanie Torrance
>> 
>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward
>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre.
>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked
>> quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for
>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a
>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/melanietorrance%40icloud.com
>> 
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From deniserob at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 15:26:43 2018
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:26:43 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>

Ed
Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And
yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood
and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down
quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts

I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food
correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing
or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts
The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes
me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts
and spot on glucose readings.

* Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
Impaired
425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com

[image: TechVision Logo]
?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?





On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Denise,
>
> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take a
> reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's own
> self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read the
> glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>
> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I haven't
> been doing that of late.
>
> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me as I
> tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I stop doing
> so.
>
> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you go
> down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
>
> > On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
> Which
> > you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
> highs.
> > The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if your
> > blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will give you
> > wrong glucose numbers
> > I anticipate that it will be a good product after they fix these issues.
> >
> > * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> >
> > *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> >
> > Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
> > Impaired
> > 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> >
> > [image: TechVision Logo]
> > ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
> technology?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
> > diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to go
> for
> >> the podcast you watched?
> >> Melanie Torrance
> >>
> >> Sent from Melanie's i phone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
> >> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward
> >> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
> Libre.
> >> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked
> >> quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription
> for
> >> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times
> a
> >> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
> >>>
> >>> Greg Wocher
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> >>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> Diabetes-Talk:
> >>>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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From jdashiel at panix.com  Fri Nov  2 15:27:42 2018
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1811021126330.10071@panix1.panix.com>

Anyone know why standard glucometers are otc and this new device is
prescription only? On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
wrote:

> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 09:23:17
> From: Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Greg Wocher <gwocher at gwocher.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>
> Hello all,
> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>
> Greg Wocher
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
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>

-- 




From ergreen1981 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 15:33:38 2018
From: ergreen1981 at gmail.com (Edward Green)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:33:38 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1811021126330.10071@panix1.panix.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<alpine.NEB.2.21.1811021126330.10071@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <01b601d472c1$6d8f4ef0$48adecd0$@gmail.com>

Hi Jude,

In the UK at least, it's a stock issue.  That said, third party chemists are
selling it to consumers even though the manufacturer isn't.

Over here prescription is cheaper though where available than buying it
directly given that our medicine is socialised.

Cheers,


Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:28
To: Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Anyone know why standard glucometers are otc and this new device is
prescription only? On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
wrote:

> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 09:23:17
> From: Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Greg Wocher <gwocher at gwocher.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>
> Hello all,
> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and
on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He
used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite
well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It
would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has
anyone else tried using this system before?
>
> Greg Wocher
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Diabetes-Talk:
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> panix.com
>

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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  2 16:03:29 2018
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 16:03:29 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <01b601d472c1$6d8f4ef0$48adecd0$@gmail.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<alpine.NEB.2.21.1811021126330.10071@panix1.panix.com>
	<01b601d472c1$6d8f4ef0$48adecd0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MW2PR1901MB205747DBD45ED40BEB2E2F6FA0CF0@MW2PR1901MB2057.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hello All,

I have received a reply on my question of when the app will be ready for. Use in the United States? well kind of a response.

On Twitter Abbott said that the app is finally approved by the FDA in the United States and is coming soon. I am not sure of how long that will be or if it will even be this year. It?s coming soon though!!!

Ed Worrell

On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hi Jude,

In the UK at least, it's a stock issue.  That said, third party chemists are
selling it to consumers even though the manufacturer isn't.

Over here prescription is cheaper though where available than buying it
directly given that our medicine is socialised.

Cheers,


Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: 02 November 2018 15:28
To: Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com<mailto:jdashiel at panix.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Anyone know why standard glucometers are otc and this new device is
prescription only? On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
wrote:

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 09:23:17
From: Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Greg Wocher <gwocher at gwocher.com<mailto:gwocher at gwocher.com>>
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello all,
I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving Forward and
on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle Libre. He
used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It worked quite
well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a prescription for it. It
would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more times a day. Has
anyone else tried using this system before?

Greg Wocher


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 17:07:48 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:07:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Ed
Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts

I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.

* Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com

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On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Denise,
>
> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>
> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
> haven't been doing that of late.
>
> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
> stop doing so.
>
> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
>
> > On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
> Which
> > you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
> highs.
> > The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
> > your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
> > give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
> > product after they fix these issues.
> >
> > * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> >
> > *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> >
> > Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
> > Visually Impaired
> > 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> >
> > [image: TechVision Logo]
> > ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
> technology?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
> > diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
> >> go
> for
> >> the podcast you watched?
> >> Melanie Torrance
> >>
> >> Sent from Melanie's i phone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
> >> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
> >>> Forward
> >> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
> Libre.
> >> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
> >> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
> >> prescription
> for
> >> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
> >> times
> a
> >> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
> >>>
> >>> Greg Wocher
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Nov  2 19:04:20 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:04:20 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>
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I am thrilled with the Dexcom as these warning signals are what I needed as I live alone.  Ihave not passed out due to a low sugar only once since I started using it.  The alarm for low blood sugar especially at night  wakes me up.  

 It lets you know by the sound if you are dropping quickly and/or when I am at 80 and every 5 minutes it will let you know with a sound.  

I got mine in April of this year and   
Joyce

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Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 11:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Ed
Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts

I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.

* Dr Denise M Robinson*

*Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*

Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com

[image: TechVision Logo]
?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?





On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Denise,
>
> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>
> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
> haven't been doing that of late.
>
> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
> stop doing so.
>
> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
>
> > On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
> Which
> > you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
> highs.
> > The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
> > your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
> > give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
> > product after they fix these issues.
> >
> > * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> >
> > *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> >
> > Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
> > Visually Impaired
> > 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> >
> > [image: TechVision Logo]
> > ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
> technology?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
> > diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
> >> go
> for
> >> the podcast you watched?
> >> Melanie Torrance
> >>
> >> Sent from Melanie's i phone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
> >> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
> >>> Forward
> >> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
> Libre.
> >> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
> >> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
> >> prescription
> for
> >> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
> >> times
> a
> >> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
> >>>
> >>> Greg Wocher
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> >>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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> >>
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Fri Nov  2 19:44:37 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:44:37 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Hello,
I am lucky in that I know when my sugar is going down. The alarms don?t matter to me. The fact that I won?t have to prick my fingers much anymore is what is making me want this. Also it is not as hard to get the libra with insurance as the Dexcom is. I will be getting the Livre either latter tonight or tomorrow. My doc sent in the perscription to my pharmacy earlier today.

Greg Wocher

> On Nov 2, 2018, at 3:04 PM, blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am thrilled with the Dexcom as these warning signals are what I needed as I live alone.  Ihave not passed out due to a low sugar only once since I started using it.  The alarm for low blood sugar especially at night  wakes me up.  
> 
> It lets you know by the sound if you are dropping quickly and/or when I am at 80 and every 5 minutes it will let you know with a sound.  
> 
> I got mine in April of this year and   
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 11:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Ed
> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
> 
> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
> 
> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> 
> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> 
> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> [image: TechVision Logo]
> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>> 
>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>> haven't been doing that of late.
>> 
>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>> stop doing so.
>> 
>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>> Which
>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>> highs.
>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>> Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>> technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>> go
>> for
>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>> Forward
>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>> Libre.
>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>> prescription
>> for
>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>> times
>> a
>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/melanietorr
>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 20:21:01 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 13:21:01 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <CF3EC57E-4A5A-4295-814B-3BA8A6970578@gwocher.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>	<2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>	<CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>	<025a01d472de$dd1cb7e0$975627a0$@aol.com>
	<CF3EC57E-4A5A-4295-814B-3BA8A6970578@gwocher.com>
Message-ID: <02fc01d472e9$93745c50$ba5d14f0$@gmail.com>

Hi , when you do .please keep us informed on the libre.i am interested in it as wel. I would like to  have alternatives on these sort of products ,  and learn more about it. I do agree I also hate finger pricks.if I can do less of them and it will be cost effective for me in the long run.if I can also share the data with my family members and doctors that  would be another good thing and that  way I could also have an alternative to the dexcom which is so got dam expensive to get and to  maintain.   




From ergreen1981 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 20:48:43 2018
From: ergreen1981 at gmail.com (Edward Green)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 20:48:43 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <02fc01d472e9$93745c50$ba5d14f0$@gmail.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>	<2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>	<CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>	<025a01d472de$dd1cb7e0$975627a0$@aol.com>	<CF3EC57E-4A5A-4295-814B-3BA8A6970578@gwocher.com>
	<02fc01d472e9$93745c50$ba5d14f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008301d472ed$728a9f50$579fddf0$@gmail.com>

Hi Gary,

Yes you can certainly share information with family members and medical
practitioners.

There's a website you can log into using the same credentials you can use
when logging into the app.  It's possible to generate all sorts of reports
on there which can be sent to your doctor's office if they have registered,
or which you can email to yourself and transmit in whatever way you like if
they haven't.

I haven't looked at all of them, but at least some of them are not
accessible.

Cheers,

Ed

-----Original Message-----
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gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: 02 November 2018 20:21
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hi , when you do .please keep us informed on the libre.i am interested in it
as wel. I would like to  have alternatives on these sort of products ,  and
learn more about it. I do agree I also hate finger pricks.if I can do less
of them and it will be cost effective for me in the long run.if I can also
share the data with my family members and doctors that  would be another
good thing and that  way I could also have an alternative to the dexcom
which is so got dam expensive to get and to  maintain.   


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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Sat Nov  3 19:28:59 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:28:59 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <013101d472ce$95609030$c021b090$@gmail.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>
	<CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<013101d472ce$95609030$c021b090$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FAAD9286-3159-4E4A-8C02-8993E5BDED1C@gwocher.com>

hello,
Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Ed
> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
> 
> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
> 
> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> 
> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> 
> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> [image: TechVision Logo]
> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>> 
>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>> haven't been doing that of late.
>> 
>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>> stop doing so.
>> 
>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>> Which
>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>> highs.
>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>> Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>> technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>> go
>> for
>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>> Forward
>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>> Libre.
>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>> prescription
>> for
>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>> times
>> a
>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Nov  3 20:19:21 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 13:19:21 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <FAAD9286-3159-4E4A-8C02-8993E5BDED1C@gwocher.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>	<2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>	<CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>	<013101d472ce$95609030$c021b090$@gmail.com>
	<FAAD9286-3159-4E4A-8C02-8993E5BDED1C@gwocher.com>
Message-ID: <009701d473b2$818cfaa0$84a6efe0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

It was always a 12-hour wait on the Libre sensors. The Dexcom is a 2-hour wait.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 12:29 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Greg Wocher
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

hello,
Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Ed
> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
> 
> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
> 
> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
> 
> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
> 
> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> [image: TechVision Logo]
> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>> 
>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>> haven't been doing that of late.
>> 
>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>> stop doing so.
>> 
>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>> Which
>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>> highs.
>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>> Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>> technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>> go
>> for
>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>> Forward
>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>> Libre.
>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>> prescription
>> for
>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>> times
>> a
>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/melanietorr
>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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>>>> for
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>>>> 
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From ergreen1981 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 21:56:27 2018
From: ergreen1981 at gmail.com (Edward Green)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 22:56:27 +0100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <009701d473b2$818cfaa0$84a6efe0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <95CC1BA5-0171-478F-ADEC-D3A8BA27622B@gwocher.com>
	<5C6CFFA1-06F3-4144-A749-4BAD68606248@icloud.com>
	<CAAxsd_4qD9AE74F=-HGs2Q509OVWjP4Mg7T1vps9=yRHd=s3KQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<2E4EE5CF-79DC-4D4D-A0A4-6F9C50077E8F@gmail.com>
	<CAAxsd_4aGAyDxqyxrivkqGXoBV57MnO5u8qJMWkHShCSDBThtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<013101d472ce$95609030$c021b090$@gmail.com>
	<FAAD9286-3159-4E4A-8C02-8993E5BDED1C@gwocher.com>
	<009701d473b2$818cfaa0$84a6efe0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <56839332-F4AE-4211-BBB0-0898D35DAE50@gmail.com>

Hi Greg,

It's a 1 hour wait here, but I'm not sure if it's different in the UK. How long does your censor last? Mine is 14 days.

Cheers,

Ed 


> On 3 Nov 2018, at 21:19, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> It was always a 12-hour wait on the Libre sensors. The Dexcom is a 2-hour wait.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 12:29 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Greg Wocher
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> hello,
> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>> 
>> Ed
>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>> 
>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>> 
>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>> 
>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>> 
>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>> 
>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Denise,
>>> 
>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>> 
>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>> 
>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>>> stop doing so.
>>> 
>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>> Which
>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>> highs.
>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>> 
>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>> 
>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>> 
>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>> 
>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>> technology?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>>> go
>>> for
>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>> Forward
>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>> Libre.
>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>> prescription
>>> for
>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>> times
>>> a
>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
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>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> for
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>>> 
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>>> 0gmail.com
>>>>> 
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Sat Nov  3 23:51:20 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 19:51:20 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
In-Reply-To: <56839332-F4AE-4211-BBB0-0898D35DAE50@gmail.com>
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	<56839332-F4AE-4211-BBB0-0898D35DAE50@gmail.com>
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Hello,
I am using the older sensors that last 10 days. Thats why it takes 12 hours. My biggest concern is knocking it off. I did find a booming business on amazon for various patches and the like to help keep the sensor on. I ordered some from an Australian company and it will be here on Monday. I am so excited and can hardly wait till I can start using it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 3, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> It's a 1 hour wait here, but I'm not sure if it's different in the UK. How long does your censor last? Mine is 14 days.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ed 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Nov 2018, at 21:19, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> It was always a 12-hour wait on the Libre sensors. The Dexcom is a 2-hour wait.
>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>               Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 12:29 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Greg Wocher
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>> 
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>> 
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/melanietorr
>>>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 0gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
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>>>>> 
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>>>> %40gmail.com
>>>> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 17:09:29 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 11:09:29 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
Message-ID: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 



From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Sun Nov  4 17:44:17 2018
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:44:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701d47466$02a10420$07e30c60$@comcast.net>

Jaimie, 

I am not a good listener if I don't have something to focus on. I knit in
church, but at work I can't do that. So my choices were either doodling,
with a tactile drawing board, or taking notes on my training. If I want or
need to remember afterward I take notes. If that is not such an issue, I
doodle with a drawing board.

It would be interesting to see if they think you have a sleep disorder
yourself, or non-24, but that is way beyond my expertise. Good luck.

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 17:47:57 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 11:47:57 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <043d01d47466$85fa3300$91ee9900$@gmail.com>

Jamie,

Are you totally blind with no light perception? If so, you could be
experiencing non-24 sleep disorder. When you lack light perception, the
secadian rhythms are off, causing people with this condition to have
different sleep patterns.

If not, I don't think it has anything to do with blindness. It could be
related to other health concerns, and you might want to ask your doctor.
Likely, you're not getting enough sleep since a third of adults are deemed
sleep deprived in this country, which affects various things. I have to get
up early with my kids, and I also don't go to bed until 10 or so and usually
can't fall asleep right away. I've tried melatonin, but, for me, it's never
really worked. I still have light perception, but, the last year or so, I
find myself constantly tired. I probably need to go to bed sooner, but, with
little kids, this is impossible right now, and like I said, I don't fall
asleep right away anyway.

Since it's happening frequently and affecting daily function, I would
discuss it with your doctor. You never know if an underlying health issue is
causing a disturbance in your sleep patterns.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 18:14:37 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:14:37 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
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References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
	<043d01d47466$85fa3300$91ee9900$@gmail.com>
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Thanks!  Yes, I am going to talk to my doctor tomorrow.  I am totally blind,
but I don't believe I have non-24.  I keep a structured awake/sleep routine
24-7 all year.  I do take Melatonin, but I haven't noticed that it helps me
fall or stay asleep.  I'm taking it out of my weekly pill container this
week to see if that makes a difference.  I'm trying everything to figure
this out.  It never happened in my years as a grad student, and I think it
started over the past year or so.  

				Jamie
  

-----Original Message-----
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Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:48 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Jamie,

Are you totally blind with no light perception? If so, you could be
experiencing non-24 sleep disorder. When you lack light perception, the
secadian rhythms are off, causing people with this condition to have
different sleep patterns.

If not, I don't think it has anything to do with blindness. It could be
related to other health concerns, and you might want to ask your doctor.
Likely, you're not getting enough sleep since a third of adults are deemed
sleep deprived in this country, which affects various things. I have to get
up early with my kids, and I also don't go to bed until 10 or so and usually
can't fall asleep right away. I've tried melatonin, but, for me, it's never
really worked. I still have light perception, but, the last year or so, I
find myself constantly tired. I probably need to go to bed sooner, but, with
little kids, this is impossible right now, and like I said, I don't fall
asleep right away anyway.

Since it's happening frequently and affecting daily function, I would
discuss it with your doctor. You never know if an underlying health issue is
causing a disturbance in your sleep patterns.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sun Nov  4 18:22:14 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 13:22:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59F985DAB52C476F89D02033C6F0ACD6@eileen>

Hi Jamie,

By any chance does the sleepiness happen at any point after a drop in your blood sugar levels? When I worked, I would also get extremely tired, mostly in the afternoon, and it was usually after my sugar levels had dropped. 

These days I am very aware that any time I have a low blood glucose event I am going to become exhausted.
The last time I met with a CDE she knew right away and said it is because when the blood sugar goes low the adrenilin glands go into over time and that is what leaves me and other diabetics feeling that way. It is a trauma to your system. 

Good luck.

Eileen

From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 19:16:40 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 11:16:40 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <043d01d47466$85fa3300$91ee9900$@gmail.com>
References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>
	<043d01d47466$85fa3300$91ee9900$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <044f01d47472$eb77d5a0$c26780e0$@gmail.com>

I am in the same boat.the only thing I do put on some podcast or music on my
I pad till I fall a sleep. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:48 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Jamie,

Are you totally blind with no light perception? If so, you could be
experiencing non-24 sleep disorder. When you lack light perception, the
secadian rhythms are off, causing people with this condition to have
different sleep patterns.

If not, I don't think it has anything to do with blindness. It could be
related to other health concerns, and you might want to ask your doctor.
Likely, you're not getting enough sleep since a third of adults are deemed
sleep deprived in this country, which affects various things. I have to get
up early with my kids, and I also don't go to bed until 10 or so and usually
can't fall asleep right away. I've tried melatonin, but, for me, it's never
really worked. I still have light perception, but, the last year or so, I
find myself constantly tired. I probably need to go to bed sooner, but, with
little kids, this is impossible right now, and like I said, I don't fall
asleep right away anyway.

Since it's happening frequently and affecting daily function, I would
discuss it with your doctor. You never know if an underlying health issue is
causing a disturbance in your sleep patterns.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Nov  4 21:38:07 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 13:38:07 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
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References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>	<043d01d47466$85fa3300$91ee9900$@gmail.com>
	<044f01d47472$eb77d5a0$c26780e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b401d47486$acf45380$06dcfa80$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

One thing that really struck me when I attended presentations about the
closed loop systems for managing diabetes was that the thing people said the
most was that they finally got decent sleep at night. One one level, yes,
our Dexcom will alert us to a blood sugar problem, then we deal with it,
then go back to sleep. But I do wonder if deep down at a certain level,
we're kind of always monitoring and being a bit on guard ourselves. I can
certainly see how that alone would interfere with deep sleep. For me, my
sleep patterns were great until I reached menopause, then it went to pieces.
So there might be something to check with respect to hormone changes as
well. I hope you find someone who takes this seriously and that you get some
useful answers. 
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 11:17 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

I am in the same boat.the only thing I do put on some podcast or music on my
I pad till I fall a sleep. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:48 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Jamie,

Are you totally blind with no light perception? If so, you could be
experiencing non-24 sleep disorder. When you lack light perception, the
secadian rhythms are off, causing people with this condition to have
different sleep patterns.

If not, I don't think it has anything to do with blindness. It could be
related to other health concerns, and you might want to ask your doctor.
Likely, you're not getting enough sleep since a third of adults are deemed
sleep deprived in this country, which affects various things. I have to get
up early with my kids, and I also don't go to bed until 10 or so and usually
can't fall asleep right away. I've tried melatonin, but, for me, it's never
really worked. I still have light perception, but, the last year or so, I
find myself constantly tired. I probably need to go to bed sooner, but, with
little kids, this is impossible right now, and like I said, I don't fall
asleep right away anyway.

Since it's happening frequently and affecting daily function, I would
discuss it with your doctor. You never know if an underlying health issue is
causing a disturbance in your sleep patterns.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 01:15:36 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 19:15:36 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <044f01d47472$eb77d5a0$c26780e0$@gmail.com>
References: <00dd01d47461$264801d0$72d80570$@gmail.com>	<043d01d47466$85fa3300$91ee9900$@gmail.com>
	<044f01d47472$eb77d5a0$c26780e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <048d01d474a5$0f0be290$2d23a7b0$@gmail.com>

I have the TV on or watch a show on my Victor stream or listen to a book,
but, sometimes it helps to at least drown out any noise in my head, but,
sometimes, it keeps me awake too. But, I've had sleep issues for decades,
like since I was a teen. Doctors have never been able to say why.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 1:17 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary-melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

I am in the same boat.the only thing I do put on some podcast or music on my
I pad till I fall a sleep. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:48 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Jamie,

Are you totally blind with no light perception? If so, you could be
experiencing non-24 sleep disorder. When you lack light perception, the
secadian rhythms are off, causing people with this condition to have
different sleep patterns.

If not, I don't think it has anything to do with blindness. It could be
related to other health concerns, and you might want to ask your doctor.
Likely, you're not getting enough sleep since a third of adults are deemed
sleep deprived in this country, which affects various things. I have to get
up early with my kids, and I also don't go to bed until 10 or so and usually
can't fall asleep right away. I've tried melatonin, but, for me, it's never
really worked. I still have light perception, but, the last year or so, I
find myself constantly tired. I probably need to go to bed sooner, but, with
little kids, this is impossible right now, and like I said, I don't fall
asleep right away anyway.

Since it's happening frequently and affecting daily function, I would
discuss it with your doctor. You never know if an underlying health issue is
causing a disturbance in your sleep patterns.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  

 

I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.


 

Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
lead to my being let go.

 

                                                                Jamie

 

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From cane.travel at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 16:20:28 2018
From: cane.travel at gmail.com (Denise Mackenstadt)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 08:20:28 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom CGM
Message-ID: <D7F42C99-A728-4527-A8D1-915CC0F3D0CA@gmail.com>

Which model of the dexcom device is accessible through the app? I am trying to get a prescription. I appreciate any help I can get. 

Denise Mackenstadt
206-419-9555
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 16:50:37 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 10:50:37 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom CGM
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Both the G5 and G6 are accessible through the app.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom CGM

Which model of the dexcom device is accessible through the app? I am trying
to get a prescription. I appreciate any help I can get. 

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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  5 19:14:19 2018
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:14:19 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Hey Greg,

I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.

Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.

Ed Worrell

> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> hello,
> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>> 
>> Ed
>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>> 
>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>> 
>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>> 
>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>> 
>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>> 
>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Denise,
>>> 
>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>> 
>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>> 
>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>>> stop doing so.
>>> 
>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>> Which
>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>> highs.
>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>> 
>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>> 
>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>> 
>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>> 
>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>> technology?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>>> go
>>> for
>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>> Forward
>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>> Libre.
>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>> prescription
>>> for
>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>> times
>>> a
>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> 
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>>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>>> 
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Mon Nov  5 19:52:53 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:52:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Greg,
> 
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
> 
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>> 
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/melanietorr
>>>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 0gmail.com
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>> 
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Mon Nov  5 22:04:31 2018
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:04:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Greg,
> 
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
> 
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>> 
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Nov  5 22:31:10 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:31:10 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance. 
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5. 
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Greg,
> 
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
> 
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>> 
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take 
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's 
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read 
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not 
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me 
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I 
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you 
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will 
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good 
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to 
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/melanietorr
>>>> ance%40icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Diabetes-Talk:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/deniserob%4
>>>> 0gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> %40gmail.com
>>>> 
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From mafeliz0641 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 22:34:32 2018
From: mafeliz0641 at gmail.com (Mark Feliz)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 15:34:32 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom CGM
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Which Iphone will give me app accessability?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Both the G5 and G6 are accessible through the app.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Denise
> Mackenstadt via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 10:20 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Denise Mackenstadt <cane.travel at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Dexcom CGM
> 
> Which model of the dexcom device is accessible through the app? I am trying
> to get a prescription. I appreciate any help I can get. 
> 
> Denise Mackenstadt
> 206-419-9555
> cane.travel at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPad
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 22:46:35 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:46:35 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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What's the confusion about.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jeanette Kutash <kutash-jm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Greg,
> 
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
> 
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up 
>>> and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>> 
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>> Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you 
>>>> take a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the 
>>>> app's own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will 
>>>> only read the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're 
>>>> not required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for 
>>>> me as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice 
>>>> should I stop doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if 
>>>> you go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows 
>>>>> and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It 
>>>>> will give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a 
>>>>> good product after they fix these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where 
>>>>>> to go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the 
>>>>>> Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 22:55:35 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:55:35 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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So when the libre does what the   dexcom does wwill that  be an alternative.as a type 2 diabetic.  I want to  have alternative when the dexcom for some oddd reason like the last time is not covered I could have a second cheaper alternative to go  to and not  have to  worry about high and low with my sugars.  I have more lows during the  night then during  the day.   




From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 22:58:13 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:58:13 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Are you sure veronica.i know that most people who use libre  CGM don?t  use I OS but use android.with android I just looked there  is an app for libre its called libre link and its working off of nfc.i don?t know how  I OS and nfc work but with android NFC works out of the box with no issues or restrictions and I suspect that maybe the case with I OS and the libre app being delayed for those reasons to get higns certified with I OS and apple .  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance. 
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5. 
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Greg,
> 
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
> 
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up 
>>> and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>> 
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>> 
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>> 
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>> 
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>> Visually Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>> 
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>> 
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you 
>>>> take a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the 
>>>> app's own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will 
>>>> only read the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're 
>>>> not required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for 
>>>> me as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice 
>>>> should I stop doing so.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if 
>>>> you go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows 
>>>>> and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It 
>>>>> will give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a 
>>>>> good product after they fix these issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>> < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where 
>>>>>> to go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the 
>>>>>> Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Mon Nov  5 23:09:08 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 18:09:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Hello,
The app is now live in the iOS app store. I just used it for the first time and it was great. I can now scan my sensor with my phone. So far I have found the Libre to be spot on. I have compared it to readings with my Prodigy voice. I am a type One diabetic and have been so for 39 years. 

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure veronica.i know that most people who use libre  CGM don?t  use I OS but use android.with android I just looked there  is an app for libre its called libre link and its working off of nfc.i don?t know how  I OS and nfc work but with android NFC works out of the box with no issues or restrictions and I suspect that maybe the case with I OS and the libre app being delayed for those reasons to get higns certified with I OS and apple .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:31 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance. 
> The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5. 
> I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
> Veronica
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Jeanette Kutash
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or anything like that use this item?
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
> To: ed worrell
> Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Hello,
> That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Greg,
>> 
>> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>> 
>> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up 
>>>> and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>> 
>>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>> 
>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>> 
>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>> 
>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>> 
>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you 
>>>>> take a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the 
>>>>> app's own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will 
>>>>> only read the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're 
>>>>> not required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for 
>>>>> me as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice 
>>>>> should I stop doing so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if 
>>>>> you go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>>> Which
>>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows 
>>>>>> and
>>>>> highs.
>>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It 
>>>>>> will give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a 
>>>>>> good product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>>> technology?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where 
>>>>>>> to go
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the 
>>>>>>> Freestyle
>>>>> Libre.
>>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>>> prescription
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>>> times
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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From underdogmj at comcast.net  Tue Nov  6 00:03:53 2018
From: underdogmj at comcast.net (Lester Cameron)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:03:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Less here
I like the info about the
the Dexcom G6  I have a question
Can I use this with a I pad
To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your 
phone in my I pad
Do they have a talking meter
and how do I get one
Because I have a flip phone
If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about 
this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
Thanks for any help
Have a good reading
-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are 
continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and 
they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the 
Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does 
not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just 
have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also 
does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how 
people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not 
accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows 
you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, 
all without assistance.
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for 
me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably 
accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on 
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or 
anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first 
reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my 
finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different 
accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the 
US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell 
> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves 
> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us 
> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor 
> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood 
> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are 
> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes 
> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor 
>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to 
>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I 
>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only 
>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down 
>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now 
>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do 
>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in 
>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food 
>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. 
>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And 
>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my 
>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is 
>>> telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and 
>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food 
>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars 
>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom 
>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and 
>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for 
>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually 
>>> Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through 
>>> technology?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for 
>>>> interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 00:13:19 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 16:13:19 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Yes you can, you can use any I OS device from I pod, I pad, I phone and apple watch. Hope this helps you out.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Less here
I like the info about the
the Dexcom G6  I have a question
Can I use this with a I pad
To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your 
phone in my I pad
Do they have a talking meter
and how do I get one
Because I have a flip phone
If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
Thanks for any help
Have a good reading
-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance.
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or 
anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first 
reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my 
finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different 
accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the 
US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell 
> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves 
> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us 
> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor 
> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood 
> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are 
> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes 
> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor 
>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to 
>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I 
>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only 
>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down 
>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now 
>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do 
>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in 
>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food 
>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. 
>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And 
>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my 
>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is 
>>> telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and 
>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food 
>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars 
>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom 
>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and 
>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for 
>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually 
>>> Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through 
>>> technology?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for 
>>>> interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Nov  6 00:30:09 2018
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:30:09 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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So does the app talk.?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:13 PM
To: 'Lester Cameron'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Yes you can, you can use any I OS device from I pod, I pad, I phone and apple watch. Hope this helps you out.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Less here
I like the info about the
the Dexcom G6  I have a question
Can I use this with a I pad
To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your 
phone in my I pad
Do they have a talking meter
and how do I get one
Because I have a flip phone
If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
Thanks for any help
Have a good reading
-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance.
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or 
anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first 
reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my 
finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different 
accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the 
US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell 
> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves 
> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us 
> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor 
> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood 
> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are 
> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes 
> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk 
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor 
>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to 
>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I 
>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only 
>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down 
>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now 
>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do 
>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in 
>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food 
>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr. 
>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And 
>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my 
>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is 
>>> telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and 
>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food 
>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars 
>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom 
>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and 
>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for 
>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually 
>>> Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through 
>>> technology?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < 
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for 
>>>> interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From kutash-jm at comcast.net  Tue Nov  6 00:34:09 2018
From: kutash-jm at comcast.net (Jeanette Kutash)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:34:09 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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What is the app's name, and can it be used with voiceover, and how expensive are the strips and lancets?

Jeanette

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 6:09 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Greg Wocher
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
The app is now live in the iOS app store. I just used it for the first time and it was great. I can now scan my sensor with my phone. So far I have found the Libre to be spot on. I have compared it to readings with my Prodigy voice. I am a type One diabetic and have been so for 39 years. 

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure veronica.i know that most people who use libre  CGM don?t  use I OS but use android.with android I just looked there  is an app for libre its called libre link and its working off of nfc.i don?t know how  I OS and nfc work but with android NFC works out of the box with no issues or restrictions and I suspect that maybe the case with I OS and the libre app being delayed for those reasons to get higns certified with I OS and apple .  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:31 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance. 
> The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5. 
> I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
> Veronica
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Jeanette Kutash
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or anything like that use this item?
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
> To: ed worrell
> Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Hello,
> That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Greg,
>> 
>> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>> 
>> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors. 
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food choices, exercise choices and the rest.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is telling me.
>>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up 
>>>> and down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>> 
>>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>> 
>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>> 
>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>> 
>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>> 
>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through technology?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you 
>>>>> take a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the 
>>>>> app's own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will 
>>>>> only read the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're 
>>>>> not required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for interest.
>>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I 
>>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for 
>>>>> me as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice 
>>>>> should I stop doing so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if 
>>>>> you go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>>> Which
>>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows 
>>>>>> and
>>>>> highs.
>>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if 
>>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It 
>>>>>> will give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a 
>>>>>> good product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and 
>>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>>> technology?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> < diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where 
>>>>>>> to go
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving 
>>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the 
>>>>>>> Freestyle
>>>>> Libre.
>>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It 
>>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a 
>>>>>>> prescription
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more 
>>>>>>> times
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>> 
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From underdogmj at comcast.net  Tue Nov  6 00:40:49 2018
From: underdogmj at comcast.net (Lester Cameron)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:40:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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yes  my apps talke

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

So does the app talk.?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:13 PM
To: 'Lester Cameron'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Yes you can, you can use any I OS device from I pod, I pad, I phone and 
apple watch. Hope this helps you out.

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Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Less here
I like the info about the
the Dexcom G6  I have a question
Can I use this with a I pad
To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your
phone in my I pad
Do they have a talking meter
and how do I get one
Because I have a flip phone
If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about 
this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
Thanks for any help
Have a good reading
-----Original Message-----
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Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are 
continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and 
they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the 
Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does 
not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just 
have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also 
does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how 
people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not 
accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows 
you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, 
all without assistance.
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for 
me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably 
accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

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Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or
anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first
reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my
finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different
accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the
US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell
> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves
> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us
> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor
> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood
> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are
> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes
> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor
>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to
>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I
>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only
>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down
>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now
>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do
>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in
>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food
>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr.
>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And
>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my
>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is
>>> telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and
>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food
>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars
>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom
>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and
>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for
>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
>>> Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>> technology?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for
>>>> interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Nov  6 04:20:57 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:20:57 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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These continuous glucose monitors do not use strips and lancets. You insert a sensor into your body and it stays there for 7 to 14 days, depending on brand and model. A transmitter sends your readings from the sensor to the app on your phone. You then use the phone to read your current number and trend. It might say something like, 132 and slowly falling. You can use these instead of doing many finger sticks. 
As for the Libre, that app must have literally just come out because it sure wasn't last week when I checked. Does the app allow you to set alarms? One thing I really like on the Dexcom G6 is the "urgent low soon" alert. It yaps at me when I'm likely to go low within 20 minutes or so. I have been able to catch a potential low before it happens, thus preventing that rebound later on. This has made a huge difference for me. 
I'll have a snoop to see what the Libre provides on its app.
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 4:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

yes  my apps talke

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

So does the app talk.?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:13 PM
To: 'Lester Cameron'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Yes you can, you can use any I OS device from I pod, I pad, I phone and 
apple watch. Hope this helps you out.

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lester 
Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Less here
I like the info about the
the Dexcom G6  I have a question
Can I use this with a I pad
To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your
phone in my I pad
Do they have a talking meter
and how do I get one
Because I have a flip phone
If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about 
this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
Thanks for any help
Have a good reading
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From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are 
continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and 
they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the 
Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does 
not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just 
have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also 
does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how 
people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not 
accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows 
you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, 
all without assistance.
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for 
me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably 
accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on 
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or
anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first
reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my
finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different
accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the
US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell
> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves
> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us
> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor
> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood
> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are
> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes
> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor
>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to
>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I
>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only
>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down
>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now
>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do
>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in
>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food
>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr.
>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And
>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my
>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is
>>> telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and
>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food
>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars
>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom
>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and
>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for
>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
>>> Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>
>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>> technology?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for
>>>> interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 05:44:46 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 21:44:46 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Please do. I have not heard about the Libre app being available on I OS either I knew about it on Android but not on I OS.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 8:21 PM
To: 'Lester Cameron' <underdogmj at comcast.net>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

These continuous glucose monitors do not use strips and lancets. You insert a sensor into your body and it stays there for 7 to 14 days, depending on brand and model. A transmitter sends your readings from the sensor to the app on your phone. You then use the phone to read your current number and trend. It might say something like, 132 and slowly falling. You can use these instead of doing many finger sticks. 
As for the Libre, that app must have literally just come out because it sure wasn't last week when I checked. Does the app allow you to set alarms? One thing I really like on the Dexcom G6 is the "urgent low soon" alert. It yaps at me when I'm likely to go low within 20 minutes or so. I have been able to catch a potential low before it happens, thus preventing that rebound later on. This has made a huge difference for me. 
I'll have a snoop to see what the Libre provides on its app.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 4:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Lester Cameron
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

yes  my apps talke

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

So does the app talk.?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:13 PM
To: 'Lester Cameron'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Yes you can, you can use any I OS device from I pod, I pad, I phone and apple watch. Hope this helps you out.

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Less here
I like the info about the
the Dexcom G6  I have a question
Can I use this with a I pad
To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your
phone in my I pad
Do they have a talking meter
and how do I get one
Because I have a flip phone
If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
Thanks for any help
Have a good reading
-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:31 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance.
The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Jeanette Kutash
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or
anything like that use this item?

Jeanette

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
To: ed worrell
Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre

Hello,
That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first
reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my
finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different
accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the
US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Greg,
>
> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell
> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves
> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us
> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor
> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood
> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are
> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>
> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes
> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor
>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to
>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I
>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only
>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down
>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now
>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do
>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in
>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food
>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr.
>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And
>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my
>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is
>>> telling me.
>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and
>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food
>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars
>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom
>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and
>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for
>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>
>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>
>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>
>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
>>> Impaired
>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>
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>>> technology?
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <
>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>
>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for
>>>> interest.
>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>> Which
>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>> highs.
>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>
>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>> technology?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>> go
>>>> for
>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>> Libre.
>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>> prescription
>>>> for
>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>> times
>>>> a
>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>
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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Tue Nov  6 11:43:46 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 06:43:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
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Hello,
Yes it is available on iOS and I am using it now. I just got it last night and it is accessible. I know it will let you set reminders but I have not looked into them yet to see what they are for.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 6, 2018, at 12:44 AM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Please do. I have not heard about the Libre app being available on I OS either I knew about it on Android but not on I OS.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 8:21 PM
> To: 'Lester Cameron' <underdogmj at comcast.net>; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> These continuous glucose monitors do not use strips and lancets. You insert a sensor into your body and it stays there for 7 to 14 days, depending on brand and model. A transmitter sends your readings from the sensor to the app on your phone. You then use the phone to read your current number and trend. It might say something like, 132 and slowly falling. You can use these instead of doing many finger sticks. 
> As for the Libre, that app must have literally just come out because it sure wasn't last week when I checked. Does the app allow you to set alarms? One thing I really like on the Dexcom G6 is the "urgent low soon" alert. It yaps at me when I'm likely to go low within 20 minutes or so. I have been able to catch a potential low before it happens, thus preventing that rebound later on. This has made a huge difference for me. 
> I'll have a snoop to see what the Libre provides on its app.
> Veronica
> 
> 
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> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 4:41 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Lester Cameron
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> yes  my apps talke
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Jeanette Kutash
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> So does the app talk.?
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 7:13 PM
> To: 'Lester Cameron'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: gary-melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Yes you can, you can use any I OS device from I pod, I pad, I phone and apple watch. Hope this helps you out.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Less here
> I like the info about the
> the Dexcom G6  I have a question
> Can I use this with a I pad
> To read the numbers on the meter   or can I put the app that you put on your
> phone in my I pad
> Do they have a talking meter
> and how do I get one
> Because I have a flip phone
> If you have phone numpers or a email address so I can get more info about this I have two  diferent apps,seeing A I ,tap tap  C,on my I pad .
> Thanks for any help
> Have a good reading
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:31 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> The FreeStyle Libre is sort of a competitor to the Dexcom. Both devices are continuous glucose monitors. There are some differences between the two and they do require a prescription. My endocrinologist does not recommend the Libre for Type 1's because it is not as accurate. Right now, it also does not give automatic alarms for high and low readings. With the Libre you just have to keep looking to find out if things are getting out of hand. It also does not read the number as often. At the moment, I also don't know how people are getting access to their readings as the receiver is not accessible and there is not yet a phone app which displays readings, allows you to set various alarms and pair up your transmitter, as the Dexcom has, all without assistance.
> The cost is lower, although the Dexcom G6 does cost less than the G5.
> I hope that over time things sort out so we do have real choices. But for me, even if I escape the need for finger sticks, I sure want a reasonably accurate number, not just any old number. Just my quarter's worth.
> Veronica
> 
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> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:05 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Jeanette Kutash
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> I am confused about this Libre. Can those of us who do not have Dexcom's or
> anything like that use this item?
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:53 PM
> To: ed worrell
> Cc: Greg Wocher; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
> 
> Hello,
> That is good to hear about the adhesive on the sensors. I took my first
> reading yesterday and I wanted to cry because I did not have to stick my
> finger. I actually bought a case for my meter as well. They sell different
> accessories for them on Amazon. I can?t wait till the app comes out on the
> US app store. It has been FDA approved so now begins the wait for it.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:14 PM, ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Greg,
>> 
>> I thought that too with how far the sensors stick out as well. Let me tell
>> you the adhesive is strong. I have caught it on a door jam, shirt sleeves
>> and the sensor doesn?t budge. Soon the LibreLink app will be out for us
>> iPhone users. This will allow you to turn on voice alerts when the sensor
>> is scanned with the iPhone and the active app. It will read the blood
>> sugar and alerts if your reading is going up or dropping too fast. You are
>> correct in the 1 hour start up time is only with the new 14 day sensor.
>> 
>> Good luck with your new sensor, I have loved using this system it makes
>> traveling much easier. Fewer items I have to keep track of.
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> Well I got my Freestyle libra today. I am a little leary of the sensor
>>> because of how much it sticks up from the skin. I am afraid I am going to
>>> pull it off when I put or take off my shirt. With the sensors I got I
>>> have to wait 12 hours before it is ready for use. I thought it was only
>>> an hour but that might just be with the new 14 day sensors.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:07 PM, gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So I would like to know its not worth it to take a look at  libre down
>>>> the road when things improve.do have  the dexcom from g4 to g5 and now
>>>> don?t know about g6 as I am not eligible for a good year for g6. So I do
>>>> love what  the dexcom g series does for me as far as it keeps  me in
>>>> control and keeps  me informed of what I am doing as far as my food
>>>> choices, exercise choices and the rest.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr.
>>>> Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 8:27 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Freestyle Libre
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> Oh yes it does tell you when the sugars are ascending or descending. And
>>>> yes I can feel it also that's why I'm a bit chagrined when I test my
>>>> blood and discover that it is way different than what the Libre is
>>>> telling me.
>>>> Saying that if you don't have any issues with having sugars go up and
>>>> down quickly then it is a good product. Minus no alerts
>>>> 
>>>> I've had a lot of gut surgery due to tumors so I do not digest food
>>>> correctly. So it did not work well for me because of my sugars
>>>> skyrocketing or plummeting really quickly...and no alerts The DEXAcom
>>>> does not take calibrating either and has always been spot on.
>>>> It also has alerts that wake me up when it's going down to low and
>>>> buzzes me if it's going to high.  That's the biggest  vantage for
>>>> me --the alerts and spot on glucose readings.
>>>> 
>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>> 
>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>> 
>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and Visually
>>>> Impaired
>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>> 
>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
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>>>> technology?
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM Edward Green via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Denise,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The app will tell you if your sugars are rising or falling if you take
>>>>> a reading with the phone, though oddly you need to enable the app's
>>>>> own self-voicing functionality to get this - Voiceover will only read
>>>>> the glucose. Does the Dexcom system handle this differently?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't had any accuracy issues with it - I like the fact you're not
>>>>> required to calibrate, but I did for the first little while for
>>>>> interest.
>>>>> It's useful to know that accuracy could be a problem though as I
>>>>> haven't been doing that of late.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that hypo warnings would be useful. It's not essential for me
>>>>> as I tend to feel them, but the extra security would be nice should I
>>>>> stop doing so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg - it might be worth you getting a UK iTunes Store account if you
>>>>> go down the libre route, I have a US one for similar eventualities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 14:16, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have used them both-- Libre doesn't even come close to the DEXAcom.
>>>>> Which
>>>>>> you can use connected to your iPhone and also alert you of lows and
>>>>> highs.
>>>>>> The Libre will not do either of that. It will also not keep up  if
>>>>>> your blood sugar is going up quickly or going down quickly. It will
>>>>>> give you wrong glucose numbers I anticipate that it will be a good
>>>>>> product after they fix these issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Specialist-Technology/Blind Skills | Teacher of the Blind and
>>>>>> Visually Impaired
>>>>>> 425-220-6935 | www.yourtechvision.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [image: TechVision Logo]
>>>>>> ?Helping the visually impaired see their world changed through
>>>>> technology?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven?t used the Freestyle Libre, but could you tell us where to
>>>>>>> go
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the podcast you watched?
>>>>>>> Melanie Torrance
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <
>>>>>>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> I listened to a podcast yesterday called Accessibility Moving
>>>>>>>> Forward
>>>>>>> and on it there was a demonstration of someone using the Freestyle
>>>>> Libre.
>>>>>>> He used the Envision AI app to read the screen of the meter. It
>>>>>>> worked quite well. I am going to see if my doctor will give me a
>>>>>>> prescription
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it. It would be great to not have to prick my fingers six or more
>>>>>>> times
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> day. Has anyone else tried using this system before?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 13:30:35 2018
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:30:35 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <002701d47466$02a10420$07e30c60$@comcast.net>
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	<002701d47466$02a10420$07e30c60$@comcast.net>
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Good Morning Jamie:  

Bern here.  Actually, I have a couple of suggestions.  Firstly, go ahead and doodle.  You don?t have to be able to be a print reader to ?doodle.?  All you have to do is grab a pen?keep one in your purse.  Even a crayon or pencil would do for that.  Just grab an index card and scribble to your heart?s content.  

Do you know how to knit or crochet?  Hairpin lace? or even those rubberband bracelet things.  There are also a lot of fidget things out there.  I buy them for my kids all the time.  Stress balls and foam toys that you can squeeze in your hands.I have been known to keep a stress ball in my purse/book bag or my briefcase when I?m carrying my laptop.Just a few thoughts...

Have a great day!!!

Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jaimie, 
> 
> I am not a good listener if I don't have something to focus on. I knit in
> church, but at work I can't do that. So my choices were either doodling,
> with a tactile drawing board, or taking notes on my training. If I want or
> need to remember afterward I take notes. If that is not such an issue, I
> doodle with a drawing board.
> 
> It would be interesting to see if they think you have a sleep disorder
> yourself, or non-24, but that is way beyond my expertise. Good luck.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
> 
> Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
> has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  
> 
> 
> 
> I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
> focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
> finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
> alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
> noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
> embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
> happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
> laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
> meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
> It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
> to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
> by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
> disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
> several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
> I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
> not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
> help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
> obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
> supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
> job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
> lead to my being let go.
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                Jamie
> 
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 13:42:48 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 07:42:48 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
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Thanks! I am going to give everything and anything a try. I am also seeing my doctor this morning, since my supervisor met with me and let me know that I was a sleep more than a awake during several trainings over the past few weeks. Everyone is watching me! I think it is a bit more serious than I thought. Thanks for the suggestions!

    Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good Morning Jamie:  
> 
> Bern here.  Actually, I have a couple of suggestions.  Firstly, go ahead and doodle.  You don?t have to be able to be a print reader to ?doodle.?  All you have to do is grab a pen?keep one in your purse.  Even a crayon or pencil would do for that.  Just grab an index card and scribble to your heart?s content.  
> 
> Do you know how to knit or crochet?  Hairpin lace? or even those rubberband bracelet things.  There are also a lot of fidget things out there.  I buy them for my kids all the time.  Stress balls and foam toys that you can squeeze in your hands.I have been known to keep a stress ball in my purse/book bag or my briefcase when I?m carrying my laptop.Just a few thoughts...
> 
> Have a great day!!!
> 
> Bern
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Jaimie, 
>> 
>> I am not a good listener if I don't have something to focus on. I knit in
>> church, but at work I can't do that. So my choices were either doodling,
>> with a tactile drawing board, or taking notes on my training. If I want or
>> need to remember afterward I take notes. If that is not such an issue, I
>> doodle with a drawing board.
>> 
>> It would be interesting to see if they think you have a sleep disorder
>> yourself, or non-24, but that is way beyond my expertise. Good luck.
>> 
>> Jeanette
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:09 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
>> 
>> Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering if it
>> has something to due to blindness or something more serious.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit and
>> focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I have been
>> finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem to be totally
>> alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My colleagues at work have
>> noticed this during several trainings that I recently attended.  It is
>> embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying to pay attention to when it
>> happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing positions or taking notes on my
>> laptop, etc., but it still seems to occur.  I am not doing this during
>> meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
>> It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have anything
>> to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with micro-sleep caused
>> by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do have some sleep
>> disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my Dexcom alerting me
>> several times during the night.  The CPAP issue will be resolved soon, since
>> I  will be moving to my own place in December.  I am an early riser and am
>> not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that could
>> help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, but I can't
>> obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am going to talk with my
>> supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my probationary period at my new
>> job.  I want this job to work out and hate to think that this issue would
>> lead to my being let go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                                                               Jamie
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 14:40:33 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:40:33 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
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	<8C8900D5-EA65-4874-8575-9E65B25237E5@gmail.com>
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A fidget of some sort is a great idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 7:31 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance

Good Morning Jamie:  

Bern here.  Actually, I have a couple of suggestions.  Firstly, go ahead and doodle.  You don?t have to be able to be a print reader to ?doodle.?  All you have to do is grab a pen?keep one in your purse.  Even a crayon or pencil would do for that.  Just grab an index card and scribble to your heart?s content.  

Do you know how to knit or crochet?  Hairpin lace? or even those rubberband bracelet things.  There are also a lot of fidget things out there.  I buy them for my kids all the time.  Stress balls and foam toys that you can squeeze in your hands.I have been known to keep a stress ball in my purse/book bag or my briefcase when I?m carrying my laptop.Just a few thoughts...

Have a great day!!!

Bern

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Jeanette Kutash via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jaimie,
> 
> I am not a good listener if I don't have something to focus on. I knit 
> in church, but at work I can't do that. So my choices were either 
> doodling, with a tactile drawing board, or taking notes on my 
> training. If I want or need to remember afterward I take notes. If 
> that is not such an issue, I doodle with a drawing board.
> 
> It would be interesting to see if they think you have a sleep disorder 
> yourself, or non-24, but that is way beyond my expertise. Good luck.
> 
> Jeanette
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Need some guidance
> 
> Hi friends!  I am having a problem with something that I'm wondering 
> if it has something to due to blindness or something more serious.
> 
> 
> 
> I am a very active and busy person.  However, whenever I have to sit 
> and focus on something like a speaker, the minister's sermon, etc., I 
> have been finding myself nodding off.  I am not tired at all and seem 
> to be totally alert when I suddenly zone out or nod off.  My 
> colleagues at work have noticed this during several trainings that I 
> recently attended.  It is embarrassing, but concerning.  I am trying 
> to pay attention to when it happens, what my Blood sugar is,  changing 
> positions or taking notes on my laptop, etc., but it still seems to 
> occur.  I am not doing this during meetings where I am actively participating in it, leading the meeting, etc.
> It is when I am sitting and listening.  Is it because I don't have 
> anything to focus on?  I've researched this and have come up with 
> micro-sleep caused by sleep deprivation or a form of narcolepsy.  I do 
> have some sleep disturbances due to my husband's CPAP hissing or my 
> Dexcom alerting me several times during the night.  The CPAP issue 
> will be resolved soon, since I  will be moving to my own place in 
> December.  I am an early riser and am not ready for bed until 10:30-11 p.m. and then have trouble falling asleep.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, have you found anything that 
> could help me stay totally awake.  People tell me that they doodle, 
> but I can't obviously do that.  Thanks for any suggestions.  I am 
> going to talk with my supervisor on Monday, since I am still in my 
> probationary period at my new job.  I want this job to work out and 
> hate to think that this issue would lead to my being let go.
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                Jamie
> 
> 
> 
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  6 17:00:07 2018
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 17:00:07 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] LibreLing app now in the US app store
Message-ID: <MW2PR1901MB2057E2B17E261CC407C70652A0CB0@MW2PR1901MB2057.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hello All,

I just found the Abbott FreeStyle Libre app in the Us App Store. It is called LibreLink. The app is very simple and easy to use. There are some very oddly labeled buttons. I simply use the label feature to relabel the buttons to something that made more sense to VoiceOver. You will have have to find the menu in the top left hand corner it?s labeled something like slide out menu icon. I simply relabeled it to menu. This is where you can find your different records, and graphs I presume. I went all the way down to the settings menu and there is an option in the settings menu that will allow your device to read the sensor readings with text to speech and direction of the reading such as slowly falling, my first reading said slowly changing? Not sure what this actually means. This is fantastic. I hope that they will add some extra features in the future such as Apple health sync, and maybe. Finalize the Apple Watch app that will allow you to see your last readings on the watch face. Great Start for now!

Ed Worrell

From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 21:43:14 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:43:14 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulet inks deal with Samsung to develop
 smartphone-controlled Omnipod - MassDevice
Message-ID: <00fc01d4793e$6317bba0$294732e0$@gmail.com>

I came across this interesting news on those  who use insulin pumps. So I
wonder how useful this will be for those  

.  

https://www.massdevice.com/insulet-inks-deal-with-samsung-to-develop-smartph
one-controlled-omnipod/


From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Nov 11 02:02:55 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:02:55 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulet inks deal with Samsung to develop
 smartphone-controlled Omnipod - MassDevice
In-Reply-To: <00fc01d4793e$6317bba0$294732e0$@gmail.com>
References: <00fc01d4793e$6317bba0$294732e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901d47962$a979e180$fc6da480$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I think this will be all touch screen. I told the NFB about this last
summer. Hey, let's hear it for action! Not!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
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gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:43 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulet inks deal with Samsung to develop
smartphone-controlled Omnipod - MassDevice

I came across this interesting news on those  who use insulin pumps. So I
wonder how useful this will be for those  

.  

https://www.massdevice.com/insulet-inks-deal-with-samsung-to-develop-smartph
one-controlled-omnipod/
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 13:35:55 2018
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:35:55 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Insulin;
 The Cost of Living: The skyrocketing price of a lifesaving
 medication
Message-ID: <003f01d47a8c$a3e91a80$ebbb4f80$@gmail.com>

Good Morning my fellow diabetics, family, friends and supporters;

 

I came across this story from our local news broadcast. Please disseminate
this link far and wide, in my opinion we all must unite on a large scale to
combat this issue. . I am not surprised, but this type of action from the
drug manufacturers provide the catalyst for organizations such as ours. 

 

America presently is the most powerful country in the world and there is no
reason for our citizens to die due to the cost of a life saving drug as
insulin/Humalog. I apologize for communicating this on Veteran's Day, I bid
all Veterans happy Veteran's Day and thank you for your contribution to
reserve the American way of life, but is this what diabetics call living? In
my opinion, no, when people are dying!

 

I don't want to preach to the choir, so please review the link below and
let's get even more adamant about the aspects of diabetes, the wellness of
those that have it and the reason that our organization exist.

 

 

https://local12.com/news/investigates/the-skyrocketing-price-of-a-lifesaving
-medication

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

(513) 582-8606

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com

 



From magills at bigpond.com  Mon Nov 19 11:35:26 2018
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:35:26 +1100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
 of blood.
Message-ID: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>

Hi all,

 

I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.

 

I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
advice, comments and any suggestions.  

 

My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.  

 

There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
the stabber would go through the same hole.

 

The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
could still reach the required depth in the skin.

 

Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
strip?

 

With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
simply missed.

 

Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?

 

Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?

 

Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
use the very much cheaper glucose meters.

 

All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
didn't work because...

 

With much thanks,

Paul 

 



From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Nov 21 00:06:30 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:06:30 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood.
In-Reply-To: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>
References: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
it up.
The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of
Start sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too
long before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of
blood would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
<grin> 
So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
the pain is. <grin> 
But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come up with anything,
oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
of blood.

Hi all,

 

I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.

 

I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
advice, comments and any suggestions.  

 

My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.  

 

There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
the stabber would go through the same hole.

 

The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
could still reach the required depth in the skin.

 

Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
strip?

 

With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
simply missed.

 

Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?

 

Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?

 

Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
use the very much cheaper glucose meters.

 

All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
didn't work because...

 

With much thanks,

Paul 

 

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From rubypolk0 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 21 02:06:17 2018
From: rubypolk0 at sbcglobal.net (Ruby Polk)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:06:17 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood.
In-Reply-To: <00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>
	<00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <003901d4813e$ca478ff0$5ed6afd0$@sbcglobal.net>

Hello Everyone-

My Name is Ruby Polk from Kansas City Missouri. I have been a Member of the
National Federation of the Blind Diabetes Action Network for many years
under President Mike Freeman before he passed away a few years ago.

Mike told me the best way to get Blood is to stick your Finger up close to
your Fingernail and hold your hand down where the Blood flows into your
Fingernale. Then stick the Test Strip down into your Nail and you will
retrieve Blood nine out of ten times. Try it and let us know how it worked.
Take Care, Ruby



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 6:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
drop of blood.

Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
it up.
The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of Start
sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too long
before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of blood
would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
<grin>
So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
the pain is. <grin> But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come
up with anything, oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
of blood.

Hi all,

 

I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.

 

I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
advice, comments and any suggestions.  

 

My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.  

 

There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
the stabber would go through the same hole.

 

The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
could still reach the required depth in the skin.

 

Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
strip?

 

With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
simply missed.

 

Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?

 

Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?

 

Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
use the very much cheaper glucose meters.

 

All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
didn't work because...

 

With much thanks,

Paul 

 

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From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Wed Nov 21 14:10:35 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:10:35 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood.
In-Reply-To: <003901d4813e$ca478ff0$5ed6afd0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>
	<00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<003901d4813e$ca478ff0$5ed6afd0$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <5EDE3319-9204-4073-8BB1-4926C38B8900@icloud.com>

Wonderful tip Ruby! Thanks so much. Perhaps you could compile tips and pearls of wisdom from Mike and your own years with the Network. It would be a great gift for us Newbies, as well as others I am sure.
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Ruby Polk via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone-
> 
> My Name is Ruby Polk from Kansas City Missouri. I have been a Member of the
> National Federation of the Blind Diabetes Action Network for many years
> under President Mike Freeman before he passed away a few years ago.
> 
> Mike told me the best way to get Blood is to stick your Finger up close to
> your Fingernail and hold your hand down where the Blood flows into your
> Fingernale. Then stick the Test Strip down into your Nail and you will
> retrieve Blood nine out of ten times. Try it and let us know how it worked.
> Take Care, Ruby
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 6:07 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
> drop of blood.
> 
> Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
> was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
> it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
> the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
> top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
> around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
> to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
> meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
> stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
> this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
> enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
> result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
> the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
> computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
> the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
> it up.
> The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
> the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
> and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
> enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
> enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of Start
> sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too long
> before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of blood
> would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
> <grin>
> So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
> milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
> the pain is. <grin> But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come
> up with anything, oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
> Veronica
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Paul Magill
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
> of blood.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
> to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
> advice, comments and any suggestions.  
> 
> 
> 
> My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
> ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.  
> 
> 
> 
> There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
> test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
> raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
> the stabber would go through the same hole.
> 
> 
> 
> The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
> usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
> The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
> and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
> blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
> a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
> could still reach the required depth in the skin.
> 
> 
> 
> Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
> width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
> blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
> the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
> loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
> strip?
> 
> 
> 
> With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
> that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
> simply missed.
> 
> 
> 
> Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?
> 
> 
> 
> Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
> encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
> stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
> to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
> our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
> use the very much cheaper glucose meters.
> 
> 
> 
> All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
> didn't work because...
> 
> 
> 
> With much thanks,
> 
> Paul 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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> creekmusic.com
> 
> 
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From ottashley at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 21 14:55:21 2018
From: ottashley at hotmail.com (Ashley Ott)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:55:21 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
Message-ID: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>

I am new to this post, so I apologize if this has been previously discussed.  My mom has been diabetic for 34 years, and has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma in both eyes, received injections, 4 different eye drops, vitreous hemorrhage, and numerous doctors visits.  I talked with a diabetic educator at a doctor's office about an easy to read or hear system to check her blood sugars.  She suggested the Freestyle Libre by Abbott.   It is a system where you put a sensor on your arm and then can waive a hand held device close to it.  It has a very large screen display, and can also confirm, notify, and send repeated reminder sounds.  You wear it for 10-14 days, then remove it and replace.  Any feedback on all of this? Thanks.

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From gwocher at gwocher.com  Wed Nov 21 15:27:50 2018
From: gwocher at gwocher.com (Greg Wocher)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 10:27:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>

Hello,
THe freestyle libra is a good unit. I am totally blind and I use it. However you will still need to have a blood glucose meter to test your sugars occasionally. The one that is most used is called the prodigy voice. There is also an app for iOS and Android that can be used on your phone to scan the libra sensor.

Greg Wocher


> On Nov 21, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ashley Ott via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am new to this post, so I apologize if this has been previously discussed.  My mom has been diabetic for 34 years, and has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma in both eyes, received injections, 4 different eye drops, vitreous hemorrhage, and numerous doctors visits.  I talked with a diabetic educator at a doctor's office about an easy to read or hear system to check her blood sugars.  She suggested the Freestyle Libre by Abbott.   It is a system where you put a sensor on your arm and then can waive a hand held device close to it.  It has a very large screen display, and can also confirm, notify, and send repeated reminder sounds.  You wear it for 10-14 days, then remove it and replace.  Any feedback on all of this? Thanks.
> 
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Nov 21 22:24:32 2018
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:24:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood.
In-Reply-To: <00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>
	<00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1811211721400.28269@panix1.panix.com>

What a nurse looks for when doing a finger stick or alternate site stick
is pink skin on an area without bone close to the skin.  It's a color
thing, but if a device can't pick out pink on skin success probabilities
are likely to be on the low side.

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 19:06:30
> From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
>      of blood.
>
> Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
> was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
> it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
> the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
> top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
> around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
> to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
> meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
> stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
> this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
> enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
> result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
> the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
> computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
> the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
> it up.
> The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
> the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
> and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
> enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
> enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of
> Start sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too
> long before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of
> blood would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
> <grin>
> So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
> milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
> the pain is. <grin>
> But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come up with anything,
> oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
> Veronica
>
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Paul Magill
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
> of blood.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
> to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.
>
>
>
> I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
> advice, comments and any suggestions.
>
>
>
> My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
> ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.
>
>
>
> There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
> test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
> raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
> the stabber would go through the same hole.
>
>
>
> The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
> usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
> The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
> and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
> blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
> a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
> could still reach the required depth in the skin.
>
>
>
> Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
> width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
> blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
> the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
> loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
> strip?
>
>
>
> With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
> that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
> simply missed.
>
>
>
> Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?
>
>
>
> Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
> encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
> stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?
>
>
>
> Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
> to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
> our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
> use the very much cheaper glucose meters.
>
>
>
> All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
> didn't work because...
>
>
>
> With much thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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> Diabetes-Talk:
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> creekmusic.com
>
>
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>

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From jdashiel at panix.com  Wed Nov 21 22:29:51 2018
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:29:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood.
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1811211721400.28269@panix1.panix.com>
References: <004901d47ffb$f8091290$e81b37b0$@bigpond.com>
	<00de01d4812e$0e3d3cc0$2ab7b640$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<alpine.NEB.2.21.1811211721400.28269@panix1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1811211727310.28269@panix1.panix.com>

Another challenge is limiting the field of view when searching for pink
skin; if that can be done and a lancet is placed in that limited area, I
expect success probability would be either respectable or high.

On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:24:32
> From: Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
>      of blood.
>
> What a nurse looks for when doing a finger stick or alternate site stick
> is pink skin on an area without bone close to the skin.  It's a color
> thing, but if a device can't pick out pink on skin success probabilities
> are likely to be on the low side.
>
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 19:06:30
> > From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
> >      of blood.
> >
> > Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
> > was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
> > it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
> > the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
> > top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
> > around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
> > to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
> > meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
> > stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
> > this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
> > enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
> > result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
> > the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
> > computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
> > the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
> > it up.
> > The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
> > the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
> > and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
> > enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
> > enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of
> > Start sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too
> > long before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of
> > blood would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
> > <grin>
> > So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
> > milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
> > the pain is. <grin>
> > But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come up with anything,
> > oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
> > Veronica
> >
> > "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> > iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> > To learn more, visit:
> > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> > ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> > Laurel Creek Music Designs
> > Santa Cruz, California
> > Phone: 831-429-6407
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
> > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> > Cc: Paul Magill
> > Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
> > of blood.
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
> > to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
> > advice, comments and any suggestions.
> >
> >
> >
> > My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
> > ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.
> >
> >
> >
> > There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
> > test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
> > raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
> > the stabber would go through the same hole.
> >
> >
> >
> > The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
> > usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
> > The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
> > and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
> > blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
> > a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
> > could still reach the required depth in the skin.
> >
> >
> >
> > Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
> > width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
> > blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
> > the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
> > loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
> > strip?
> >
> >
> >
> > With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
> > that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
> > simply missed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
> > encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
> > stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
> > to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
> > our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
> > use the very much cheaper glucose meters.
> >
> >
> >
> > All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
> > didn't work because...
> >
> >
> >
> > With much thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > Diabetes-Talk:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/veronica%40laurel
> > creekmusic.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/jdashiel%40panix.com
> >
>
>

-- 




From magills at bigpond.com  Thu Nov 22 11:26:08 2018
From: magills at bigpond.com (Paul Magill)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 22:26:08 +1100
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood. Thank you...
Message-ID: <001b01d48256$2ab12dc0$80138940$@bigpond.com>

Thank you Veronica and others for your comments.

I would not be able to make such a gadget myself, so I've started looking
for companies that make things with 3D printing. 

But it seems that they want a file from a CAD design program first, and I
think that a CAD program may be a bit tricky for a blindy to use. Smile!

I will need to start searching the web for people who do CAD design work.

Well, I should have realised, that if it was straightforward, there would
have been a solution by now...smile.  

Regards,
Paul from Australia.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:07 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
drop of blood.

Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
it up.
The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of Start
sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too long
before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of blood
would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
<grin>
So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
the pain is. <grin> But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come
up with anything, oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
of blood.

Hi all,

 

I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.

 

I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
advice, comments and any suggestions.  

 

My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.  

 

There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
the stabber would go through the same hole.

 

The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
could still reach the required depth in the skin.

 

Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
strip?

 

With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
simply missed.

 

Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?

 

Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?

 

Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
use the very much cheaper glucose meters.

 

All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
didn't work because...

 

With much thanks,

Paul 

 

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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 22 15:10:18 2018
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:10:18 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>
Message-ID: <71231157-9574-4CF8-8934-4710468FF44D@gmail.com>

Good Morning eveeryone!!!!!

Firstly, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!

Secondly, I am using the Dexcom CGM, (Continuous Glucose Monitoring) System.  Actually, I have many friends who are using this same system.  I just love it.  But, I believe it is DEXCOM who came out with theirs first.  I guess it?s a matter of preference as technology appears to be moving at such a fast pace.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> THe freestyle libra is a good unit. I am totally blind and I use it. However you will still need to have a blood glucose meter to test your sugars occasionally. The one that is most used is called the prodigy voice. There is also an app for iOS and Android that can be used on your phone to scan the libra sensor.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ashley Ott via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I am new to this post, so I apologize if this has been previously discussed.  My mom has been diabetic for 34 years, and has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma in both eyes, received injections, 4 different eye drops, vitreous hemorrhage, and numerous doctors visits.  I talked with a diabetic educator at a doctor's office about an easy to read or hear system to check her blood sugars.  She suggested the Freestyle Libre by Abbott.   It is a system where you put a sensor on your arm and then can waive a hand held device close to it.  It has a very large screen display, and can also confirm, notify, and send repeated reminder sounds.  You wear it for 10-14 days, then remove it and replace.  Any feedback on all of this? Thanks.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>> 
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From jdashiel at panix.com  Thu Nov 22 17:18:34 2018
From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 12:18:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood. Thank you...
In-Reply-To: <001b01d48256$2ab12dc0$80138940$@bigpond.com>
References: <001b01d48256$2ab12dc0$80138940$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1811221218011.214@panix1.panix.com>

That, or find a diabetic who owns and uses a 3d printer.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 06:26:08
> From: Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
>      of blood. Thank you...
>
> Thank you Veronica and others for your comments.
>
> I would not be able to make such a gadget myself, so I've started looking
> for companies that make things with 3D printing.
>
> But it seems that they want a file from a CAD design program first, and I
> think that a CAD program may be a bit tricky for a blindy to use. Smile!
>
> I will need to start searching the web for people who do CAD design work.
>
> Well, I should have realised, that if it was straightforward, there would
> have been a solution by now...smile.
>
> Regards,
> Paul from Australia.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:07 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
> drop of blood.
>
> Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
> was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
> it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
> the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
> top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
> around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
> to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
> meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
> stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
> this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
> enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
> result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
> the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
> computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
> the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
> it up.
> The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
> the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
> and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
> enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
> enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of Start
> sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too long
> before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of blood
> would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
> <grin>
> So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
> milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
> the pain is. <grin> But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come
> up with anything, oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
> Veronica
>
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Paul Magill
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
> of blood.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
> to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.
>
>
>
> I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
> advice, comments and any suggestions.
>
>
>
> My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
> ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.
>
>
>
> There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
> test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
> raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
> the stabber would go through the same hole.
>
>
>
> The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
> usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
> The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
> and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
> blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
> a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
> could still reach the required depth in the skin.
>
>
>
> Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
> width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
> blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
> the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
> loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
> strip?
>
>
>
> With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
> that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
> simply missed.
>
>
>
> Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?
>
>
>
> Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
> encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
> stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?
>
>
>
> Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
> to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
> our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
> use the very much cheaper glucose meters.
>
>
>
> All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
> didn't work because...
>
>
>
> With much thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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> creekmusic.com
>
>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Nov 22 21:14:48 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:14:48 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
 drop of blood. Thank you...
In-Reply-To: <001b01d48256$2ab12dc0$80138940$@bigpond.com>
References: <001b01d48256$2ab12dc0$80138940$@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <001b01d482a8$6682ed00$3388c700$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

It is amazing what you can do with 3D printers these days. My hubby and I
designed a holder gadget to help me fill the syringes for the OmniPod and
just sent the file off to a company. A week later my gadget arrived and I'm
happily using it. Pretty cool.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 3:26 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
drop of blood. Thank you...

Thank you Veronica and others for your comments.

I would not be able to make such a gadget myself, so I've started looking
for companies that make things with 3D printing. 

But it seems that they want a file from a CAD design program first, and I
think that a CAD program may be a bit tricky for a blindy to use. Smile!

I will need to start searching the web for people who do CAD design work.

Well, I should have realised, that if it was straightforward, there would
have been a solution by now...smile.  

Regards,
Paul from Australia.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:07 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive
drop of blood.

Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, I used a meter called Sof-tact. It
was an alternate site meter but boy did I love it. Its main drawback is that
it was fairly large. But you opened up what felt like a clamb shell. You put
the stabber in the bottom and there was a slot where the strip went in the
top. Then you closed the lid. The cool thing was that you could carry it
around with you like that so it was easy to test in public. When you wanted
to test, you'd push a button to turn it on. Then you'd hold the top of the
meter against your arm or palm of your hand and push the button again. The
stabber would come up through a hole in the strip and then it would make
this annoying sound as the vacuum schlurped up the blood. When it had
enough, it would let go of your arm, and then it would beep and display the
result on the screen. For those with low vision, it was marvelous because
the numbers were really big. I either had to ask someone or connect it to a
computer to read my number. I did get it to work with my Braille 'n Speak at
the time. Boy was I sorry when it was discontinued. You just couldn't screw
it up.
The problems I had with any gadget I tried to invent was the variation in
the thickness of the blood. If there was a lot of blood, it would run under
and all over the gadget and quite the contrary if there wasn't really
enough. You'd have to figure out how your gadget would know when there was
enough, which is tricky when you have today's strips which kind of Start
sucking up the blood when they first come in contact. If you wait too long
before making contact with your finger, if you're me, the darn drop of blood
would have already fallen off, if it existed in the first place.
<grin>
So with today's meters, since they don't require much, I went back to
milking my finger and trying to either remember what I did or notice where
the pain is. <grin> But I always applaud thinking and enginuity. If you come
up with anything, oh please do spill the beans here. Thanks so much.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Magill via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 3:35 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Paul Magill
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Gadgets or devices to help find that elusive drop
of blood.

Hi all,

 

I have the same problem some others do, in becoming quite frustrated trying
to get the glucometer test strip on to the drop of blood.

 

I'm hoping to come up with something to help do that, and would like some
advice, comments and any suggestions.  

 

My first thought was a thin plastic ring like band, that is not quite afull
ring, so it can expand to fit any size finger.  

 

There could be a hole in the ring just large enough for the point of the
test strip to go through, and a couple of concentric circles of slightly
raised plastic around that hole, so the lancet device could be aligned so
the stabber would go through the same hole.

 

The idea is that the lancet is fired through the hole in the ring, and the
usual pushing or squeezing of the finger to raise the drop of blood is done.
The thickness of the plastic would contain the drop so it could not move,
and  the test strip could easily be maneuvered into the hole to get the
blood.  Of course, the ring would need to be fairly thin, perhaps 1/32 inch,
a bit less than a millimetre, and the depth of the lancet set greater so it
could still reach the required depth in the skin.

 

Another thought is to make a loop of wire just a little larger than the
width of the test strip.  The loop would lie flat on the skin to contain the
blood drop, and the remaining ends of the wire pressed around the finger so
the loop wouldn't move. Trouble would be firing the lancet through that
loop, and what sort of wire would not interact with the blood or the test
strip?

 

With such a gadget, If no drop of blood was raised, then you would know
that, and could squeeze or lancet again, rather than thinking the drop was
simply missed.

 

Do you know, if these, or any other gadgets have been tried?

 

Do you know whether any glucometer manufacturers have looked at
encorperating a lancet like device into the meter, so the actual glucometer
stabs the test strip into the skin, obtaining the blood directly?

 

Yes, I've been reading the recent posts about the Dexcom G6 and would like
to use it, but here in Australia, it is very expensive, and not covered by
our otherwise quite good health system, so I'm looking for a better way to
use the very much cheaper glucose meters.

 

All comments welcome, even if it is, it has been tried before, and they
didn't work because...

 

With much thanks,

Paul 

 

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From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Fri Nov 23 01:22:53 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 20:22:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <71231157-9574-4CF8-8934-4710468FF44D@gmail.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>
	<74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>
	<71231157-9574-4CF8-8934-4710468FF44D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0A5A9D39-54D6-49C5-85C6-1A0DF3173742@icloud.com>

I have been using the Dexcom G5 CGM for a year. I had a long learning curve on how to insert the sensor ( due to vision) , but Dexcom provides great support and would send a replacement sensor free every time I messed up.
The beauty of the CGM is that you only have to prick your finger twice daily to ?calibrate? the sensor.
With the CGM you wear a receiver which displays your Blood Sugar all the time. This is only good for those of us with low vision, not totally blind. I totally love this device, as it will alert me during the night before my blood sugar drops too low.
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 22, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good Morning eveeryone!!!!!
> 
> Firstly, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!
> 
> Secondly, I am using the Dexcom CGM, (Continuous Glucose Monitoring) System.  Actually, I have many friends who are using this same system.  I just love it.  But, I believe it is DEXCOM who came out with theirs first.  I guess it?s a matter of preference as technology appears to be moving at such a fast pace.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> THe freestyle libra is a good unit. I am totally blind and I use it. However you will still need to have a blood glucose meter to test your sugars occasionally. The one that is most used is called the prodigy voice. There is also an app for iOS and Android that can be used on your phone to scan the libra sensor.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ashley Ott via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am new to this post, so I apologize if this has been previously discussed.  My mom has been diabetic for 34 years, and has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma in both eyes, received injections, 4 different eye drops, vitreous hemorrhage, and numerous doctors visits.  I talked with a diabetic educator at a doctor's office about an easy to read or hear system to check her blood sugars.  She suggested the Freestyle Libre by Abbott.   It is a system where you put a sensor on your arm and then can waive a hand held device close to it.  It has a very large screen display, and can also confirm, notify, and send repeated reminder sounds.  You wear it for 10-14 days, then remove it and replace.  Any feedback on all of this? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gwocher%40gwocher.com
>> 
>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Nov 24 00:04:53 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:04:53 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <0A5A9D39-54D6-49C5-85C6-1A0DF3173742@icloud.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>	<74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>	<71231157-9574-4CF8-8934-4710468FF44D@gmail.com>
	<0A5A9D39-54D6-49C5-85C6-1A0DF3173742@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <001301d48389$53ac5c70$fb051550$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Actually, both the G5 and G6 are accessible to those of us who are totally blind, as long as we use the app on our phone to read the info. And Melanie, the G6 sensor is a whole lot easier to insert than the G5 one. For one thing, the tape is nice and flat when you open the package so at least I don't wrinkle it like I did with the G5 tape. <grin> And you only calibrate the G6 if you think it's out of whack with your meter. Yay!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Melanie Torrance; Ashley Ott
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

I have been using the Dexcom G5 CGM for a year. I had a long learning curve on how to insert the sensor ( due to vision) , but Dexcom provides great support and would send a replacement sensor free every time I messed up.
The beauty of the CGM is that you only have to prick your finger twice daily to ?calibrate? the sensor.
With the CGM you wear a receiver which displays your Blood Sugar all the time. This is only good for those of us with low vision, not totally blind. I totally love this device, as it will alert me during the night before my blood sugar drops too low.
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 22, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good Morning eveeryone!!!!!
> 
> Firstly, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!
> 
> Secondly, I am using the Dexcom CGM, (Continuous Glucose Monitoring) System.  Actually, I have many friends who are using this same system.  I just love it.  But, I believe it is DEXCOM who came out with theirs first.  I guess it?s a matter of preference as technology appears to be moving at such a fast pace.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> THe freestyle libra is a good unit. I am totally blind and I use it. However you will still need to have a blood glucose meter to test your sugars occasionally. The one that is most used is called the prodigy voice. There is also an app for iOS and Android that can be used on your phone to scan the libra sensor.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ashley Ott via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am new to this post, so I apologize if this has been previously discussed.  My mom has been diabetic for 34 years, and has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma in both eyes, received injections, 4 different eye drops, vitreous hemorrhage, and numerous doctors visits.  I talked with a diabetic educator at a doctor's office about an easy to read or hear system to check her blood sugars.  She suggested the Freestyle Libre by Abbott.   It is a system where you put a sensor on your arm and then can waive a hand held device close to it.  It has a very large screen display, and can also confirm, notify, and send repeated reminder sounds.  You wear it for 10-14 days, then remove it and replace.  Any feedback on all of this? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-Talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/gwocher%40gwocher.com
>> 
>> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 00:23:03 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:23:03 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <001301d48389$53ac5c70$fb051550$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>	<74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>	<71231157-9574-4CF8-8934-4710468FF44D@gmail.com>	<0A5A9D39-54D6-49C5-85C6-1A0DF3173742@icloud.com>
	<001301d48389$53ac5c70$fb051550$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000901d4838b$ddf99080$99ecb180$@gmail.com>

Now if I can  find a place that  I can get the g6 since I am paying for it out of pocket  since my insurance will no longe cover the dexcom.  I I wil get it till then I am stuck with the g5 and the senssors from amazon.i have found a seller if I buy in bulk gives mea discount. So I always get 2 transmitters and a six month supply of sensor and it?s a bit cheaper then going through Dexcom and getting  hastled around with that process.as my insurance is no longer willing to cover the dexcom so i have to look at alternatives  methods for paying for it which has actual save my but a few times with my nighttime lows.so for that  reason I will  pay for it out of pocket when burecratic insurance admisntrators want ot play hardball lwith me and say that its no in oru itnest ot cove this or that.  




From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Sat Nov 24 00:36:56 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 19:36:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <001301d48389$53ac5c70$fb051550$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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I am on Medicare, so the G6 is not yet approved for use. Just got an email though, that Medicare will approve the G6 as of April 2019. So looking forward to that day!
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 23, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Actually, both the G5 and G6 are accessible to those of us who are totally blind, as long as we use the app on our phone to read the info. And Melanie, the G6 sensor is a whole lot easier to insert than the G5 one. For one thing, the tape is nice and flat when you open the package so at least I don't wrinkle it like I did with the G5 tape. <grin> And you only calibrate the G6 if you think it's out of whack with your meter. Yay!
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 5:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Melanie Torrance; Ashley Ott
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
> 
> I have been using the Dexcom G5 CGM for a year. I had a long learning curve on how to insert the sensor ( due to vision) , but Dexcom provides great support and would send a replacement sensor free every time I messed up.
> The beauty of the CGM is that you only have to prick your finger twice daily to ?calibrate? the sensor.
> With the CGM you wear a receiver which displays your Blood Sugar all the time. This is only good for those of us with low vision, not totally blind. I totally love this device, as it will alert me during the night before my blood sugar drops too low.
> Melanie
> 
> Sent from Melanie's i phone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good Morning eveeryone!!!!!
>> 
>> Firstly, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!
>> 
>> Secondly, I am using the Dexcom CGM, (Continuous Glucose Monitoring) System.  Actually, I have many friends who are using this same system.  I just love it.  But, I believe it is DEXCOM who came out with theirs first.  I guess it?s a matter of preference as technology appears to be moving at such a fast pace.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Greg Wocher via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> THe freestyle libra is a good unit. I am totally blind and I use it. However you will still need to have a blood glucose meter to test your sugars occasionally. The one that is most used is called the prodigy voice. There is also an app for iOS and Android that can be used on your phone to scan the libra sensor.
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ashley Ott via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am new to this post, so I apologize if this has been previously discussed.  My mom has been diabetic for 34 years, and has recently been diagnosed with glaucoma in both eyes, received injections, 4 different eye drops, vitreous hemorrhage, and numerous doctors visits.  I talked with a diabetic educator at a doctor's office about an easy to read or hear system to check her blood sugars.  She suggested the Freestyle Libre by Abbott.   It is a system where you put a sensor on your arm and then can waive a hand held device close to it.  It has a very large screen display, and can also confirm, notify, and send repeated reminder sounds.  You wear it for 10-14 days, then remove it and replace.  Any feedback on all of this? Thanks.
>>>> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Nov 24 00:49:31 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:49:31 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
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Gary, the G6 is actually cheaper than the G5. If you're paying out of pocket, as I am at the moment, you can buy directly from Dexcom. If you sign up for auto ship, you can save a whopping 50 bucks a month. I know, I know. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

Now if I can  find a place that  I can get the g6 since I am paying for it out of pocket  since my insurance will no longe cover the dexcom.  I I wil get it till then I am stuck with the g5 and the senssors from amazon.i have found a seller if I buy in bulk gives mea discount. So I always get 2 transmitters and a six month supply of sensor and it?s a bit cheaper then going through Dexcom and getting  hastled around with that process.as my insurance is no longer willing to cover the dexcom so i have to look at alternatives  methods for paying for it which has actual save my but a few times with my nighttime lows.so for that  reason I will  pay for it out of pocket when burecratic insurance admisntrators want ot play hardball lwith me and say that its no in oru itnest ot cove this or that.  


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 00:55:49 2018
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:55:49 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
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Ok, veronica, what's the cost out of pocket for dexcom g6 with 2 transmitters and six senssors. Just out of curiosity. I got the last batch for under $800.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

Gary, the G6 is actually cheaper than the G5. If you're paying out of pocket, as I am at the moment, you can buy directly from Dexcom. If you sign up for auto ship, you can save a whopping 50 bucks a month. I know, I know. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

Now if I can  find a place that  I can get the g6 since I am paying for it out of pocket  since my insurance will no longe cover the dexcom.  I I wil get it till then I am stuck with the g5 and the senssors from amazon.i have found a seller if I buy in bulk gives mea discount. So I always get 2 transmitters and a six month supply of sensor and it?s a bit cheaper then going through Dexcom and getting  hastled around with that process.as my insurance is no longer willing to cover the dexcom so i have to look at alternatives  methods for paying for it which has actual save my but a few times with my nighttime lows.so for that  reason I will  pay for it out of pocket when burecratic insurance admisntrators want ot play hardball lwith me and say that its no in oru itnest ot cove this or that.  


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Nov 25 17:39:05 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:39:05 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm
In-Reply-To: <001d01d48390$71d5e700$5581b500$@gmail.com>
References: <DM5PR0101MB29562E3BCF19DB279F05A0D4AADA0@DM5PR0101MB2956.prod.exchangelabs.com>	<74F90486-2A60-4A12-AF5A-E404DAC28CFB@gwocher.com>	<71231157-9574-4CF8-8934-4710468FF44D@gmail.com>	<0A5A9D39-54D6-49C5-85C6-1A0DF3173742@icloud.com>	<001301d48389$53ac5c70$fb051550$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<000901d4838b$ddf99080$99ecb180$@gmail.com>	<001201d4838f$900d74f0$b0285ed0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Gary, I don't know the answer to that one because I haven't purchased that combo. I did pay $349 for a month's worth of sensors though although it will go down some when I switch to auto ship. In January I'll find out about transmitters.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

Ok, veronica, what's the cost out of pocket for dexcom g6 with 2 transmitters and six senssors. Just out of curiosity. I got the last batch for under $800.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:50 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

Gary, the G6 is actually cheaper than the G5. If you're paying out of pocket, as I am at the moment, you can buy directly from Dexcom. If you sign up for auto ship, you can save a whopping 50 bucks a month. I know, I know. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of gary-melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 4:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary-melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Scanner on arm

Now if I can  find a place that  I can get the g6 since I am paying for it out of pocket  since my insurance will no longe cover the dexcom.  I I wil get it till then I am stuck with the g5 and the senssors from amazon.i have found a seller if I buy in bulk gives mea discount. So I always get 2 transmitters and a six month supply of sensor and it?s a bit cheaper then going through Dexcom and getting  hastled around with that process.as my insurance is no longer willing to cover the dexcom so i have to look at alternatives  methods for paying for it which has actual save my but a few times with my nighttime lows.so for that  reason I will  pay for it out of pocket when burecratic insurance admisntrators want ot play hardball lwith me and say that its no in oru itnest ot cove this or that.  


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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 15:58:21 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:58:21 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 17:30:09 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:30:09 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>
	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 17:54:20 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:54:20 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
	<09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>

Bridget,

     Your educator will set up the quick bolus for you.  Then, you just press the top right button for each unit or whatever increment you set each push for, press the Act or third from the left button.  It will buzz or beep the confirmation amount and then you press the Act button again.  It is very simple.  When the pump is finished giving the bolus, it buzzes or beeps again to let you know it is done.


I have my pump set on buzz or vibrate only, so it is nice and quiet.  And, you can press the buttons through your clothes, unlike the Animas.  I always had to take it out to be able to hear when to press the confirm button.
				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:30 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From melanietorrance at icloud.com  Mon Nov 26 18:21:49 2018
From: melanietorrance at icloud.com (Melanie Torrance)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:21:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>
	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>
	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
	<09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>
	<02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D4E1946-7355-4E9E-B1B1-3A15A4EC816D@icloud.com>

Jamie-I just finished using a Medtronic Pump which I had been using for more than 10 years. I never had any accessibility features like you described. What pump are you using, and when did it come on the market?
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bridget,
> 
>     Your educator will set up the quick bolus for you.  Then, you just press the top right button for each unit or whatever increment you set each push for, press the Act or third from the left button.  It will buzz or beep the confirmation amount and then you press the Act button again.  It is very simple.  When the pump is finished giving the bolus, it buzzes or beeps again to let you know it is done.
> 
> 
> I have my pump set on buzz or vibrate only, so it is nice and quiet.  And, you can press the buttons through your clothes, unlike the Animas.  I always had to take it out to be able to hear when to press the confirm button.
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.
> 
> Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 19:06:24 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:06:24 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <5D4E1946-7355-4E9E-B1B1-3A15A4EC816D@icloud.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>	<09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>	<02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>
	<5D4E1946-7355-4E9E-B1B1-3A15A4EC816D@icloud.com>
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It's the Medtronic 530G, which I will soon be using as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:22 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie-I just finished using a Medtronic Pump which I had been using for more than 10 years. I never had any accessibility features like you described. What pump are you using, and when did it come on the market?
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bridget,
> 
>     Your educator will set up the quick bolus for you.  Then, you just press the top right button for each unit or whatever increment you set each push for, press the Act or third from the left button.  It will buzz or beep the confirmation amount and then you press the Act button again.  It is very simple.  When the pump is finished giving the bolus, it buzzes or beeps again to let you know it is done.
> 
> 
> I have my pump set on buzz or vibrate only, so it is nice and quiet.  And, you can press the buttons through your clothes, unlike the Animas.  I always had to take it out to be able to hear when to press the confirm button.
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.
> 
> Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 19:09:12 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:09:12 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <5D4E1946-7355-4E9E-B1B1-3A15A4EC816D@icloud.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>	<09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>	<02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>
	<5D4E1946-7355-4E9E-B1B1-3A15A4EC816D@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <0a2101d485bb$84bd15f0$8e3741d0$@gmail.com>

Currently, no pump other than the 530G by Medtronic is accessible. The Animas Ping is no longer manufacturing, so we blind diabetics were left with the 530G as the only option, and it's now too late to order it. All other pumps on the market are completely inaccessible because of the locking feature. There's no nonvisual work-around with this feature as of now.

And if you wanted the 530G, you had to order it by October 26 of this year. Now, you might be able to order one, but it will not be under warranty as Medtronic no longer plans to use it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:22 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie-I just finished using a Medtronic Pump which I had been using for more than 10 years. I never had any accessibility features like you described. What pump are you using, and when did it come on the market?
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bridget,
> 
>     Your educator will set up the quick bolus for you.  Then, you just press the top right button for each unit or whatever increment you set each push for, press the Act or third from the left button.  It will buzz or beep the confirmation amount and then you press the Act button again.  It is very simple.  When the pump is finished giving the bolus, it buzzes or beeps again to let you know it is done.
> 
> 
> I have my pump set on buzz or vibrate only, so it is nice and quiet.  And, you can press the buttons through your clothes, unlike the Animas.  I always had to take it out to be able to hear when to press the confirm button.
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.
> 
> Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 19:09:20 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:09:20 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>	<09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>
	<02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>
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Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:54 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Bridget,

     Your educator will set up the quick bolus for you.  Then, you just press the top right button for each unit or whatever increment you set each push for, press the Act or third from the left button.  It will buzz or beep the confirmation amount and then you press the Act button again.  It is very simple.  When the pump is finished giving the bolus, it buzzes or beeps again to let you know it is done.


I have my pump set on buzz or vibrate only, so it is nice and quiet.  And, you can press the buttons through your clothes, unlike the Animas.  I always had to take it out to be able to hear when to press the confirm button.
				Jamie


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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:30 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 01:35:02 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 20:35:02 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <0a1e01d485bb$2064ea10$612ebe30$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>	<09de01d485ad$ae681480$0b383d80$@gmail.com>	<02f501d485b1$0f3a94b0$2dafbe10$@gmail.com>	<5D4E1946-7355-4E9E-B1B1-3A15A4EC816D@icloud.com>
	<0a1e01d485bb$2064ea10$612ebe30$@gmail.com>
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It works well, but when it's teamed up with the Dexcom 5G, they are a winning team!

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 2:06 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

It's the Medtronic 530G, which I will soon be using as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melanie Torrance via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:22 PM
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Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie-I just finished using a Medtronic Pump which I had been using for more than 10 years. I never had any accessibility features like you described. What pump are you using, and when did it come on the market?
Melanie

Sent from Melanie's i phone

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Bridget,
> 
>     Your educator will set up the quick bolus for you.  Then, you just press the top right button for each unit or whatever increment you set each push for, press the Act or third from the left button.  It will buzz or beep the confirmation amount and then you press the Act button again.  It is very simple.  When the pump is finished giving the bolus, it buzzes or beeps again to let you know it is done.
> 
> 
> I have my pump set on buzz or vibrate only, so it is nice and quiet.  And, you can press the buttons through your clothes, unlike the Animas.  I always had to take it out to be able to hear when to press the confirm button.
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.
> 
> Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
>                Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 01:52:12 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 20:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a
 question.
Message-ID: <00c101d485f3$d15bd2b0$74137810$@aol.com>

It does have a bolus putton.  When holding it have the row of buttons along the bottom of the screen.  The bolus is in the up right corner.  It is the only button by itself.  Along the bottom the second button going to the left is the  the OK,acc button.

So if you bolus 5 units push top right button  5 times, then hit second button on going left to right & hit that, the pump, will beep/vibrate what you have it set to do] 5 beeps hit the second button on the bottom row going left to right once and it will activate the pump to deliver the dose.  You can listen and it is a slight sound to hear for the insulin being delivered.  If you do not want to deliver it the third button at the bottom left to right is the cancel button.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 02:26:33 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:26:33 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>
	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
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Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From blindhands at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 02:42:00 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:42:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a
 question.
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I did mess up with my right & left.  So disregard this about blousing.  I did label in another email the buttons across the bottom and what their functions are.

Joyce

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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a question.

It does have a bolus putton.  When holding it have the row of buttons along the bottom of the screen.  The bolus is in the up right corner.  It is the only button by itself.  Along the bottom the second button going to the left is the  the OK,acc button.

So if you bolus 5 units push top right button  5 times, then hit second button on going left to right & hit that, the pump, will beep/vibrate what you have it set to do] 5 beeps hit the second button on the bottom row going left to right once and it will activate the pump to deliver the dose.  You can listen and it is a slight sound to hear for the insulin being delivered.  If you do not want to deliver it the third button at the bottom left to right is the cancel button.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Nov 27 03:03:55 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 19:03:55 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a
 question.
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Do you have a choice as to how much insulin gets chosen with each button press? Can you use any other features besides the simple bolus? Can you enter a blood sugar reading manually and have the pump figure out how much insulin to give you, taking into account any that may still be remaining in your system? Thanks.
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:42 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a question.

I did mess up with my right & left.  So disregard this about blousing.  I did label in another email the buttons across the bottom and what their functions are.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a question.

It does have a bolus putton.  When holding it have the row of buttons along the bottom of the screen.  The bolus is in the up right corner.  It is the only button by itself.  Along the bottom the second button going to the left is the  the OK,acc button.

So if you bolus 5 units push top right button  5 times, then hit second button on going left to right & hit that, the pump, will beep/vibrate what you have it set to do] 5 beeps hit the second button on the bottom row going left to right once and it will activate the pump to deliver the dose.  You can listen and it is a slight sound to hear for the insulin being delivered.  If you do not want to deliver it the third button at the bottom left to right is the cancel button.

Joyce

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 12:38:56 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 06:38:56 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
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Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


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That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 12:43:10 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 06:43:10 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a
 question.
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Veronica,

     Yes, you can set the amount each press of the button gives you.  I like one unit, but you can set it at half or whatever you want.  As for the other questions, I don't use that feature, so I didn't ask.  

				Jamie

				

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a question.

Do you have a choice as to how much insulin gets chosen with each button press? Can you use any other features besides the simple bolus? Can you enter a blood sugar reading manually and have the pump figure out how much insulin to give you, taking into account any that may still be remaining in your system? Thanks.
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:42 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a question.

I did mess up with my right & left.  So disregard this about blousing.  I did label in another email the buttons across the bottom and what their functions are.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima. answer to a question.

It does have a bolus putton.  When holding it have the row of buttons along the bottom of the screen.  The bolus is in the up right corner.  It is the only button by itself.  Along the bottom the second button going to the left is the  the OK,acc button.

So if you bolus 5 units push top right button  5 times, then hit second button on going left to right & hit that, the pump, will beep/vibrate what you have it set to do] 5 beeps hit the second button on the bottom row going left to right once and it will activate the pump to deliver the dose.  You can listen and it is a slight sound to hear for the insulin being delivered.  If you do not want to deliver it the third button at the bottom left to right is the cancel button.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

I have my 530G but am still waiting to train since my reservoirs haven't arrived yet. They were shipped but never arrived, so Medtronic had to send more but that was over a week ago, and I'm still waiting. Hope this isn't a foreshadow of what receiving supplies will be like in the future.

Question, does it have a bolus button? Or do you have to go into the menu to bolus? I've looked at it but don't see a side button like the Animas or a Medtronic I looked at 5 years ago. Thanks.

Bridgit

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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

				Jamie


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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

				Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Nov 27 14:26:48 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:26:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 15:16:59 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:16:59 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <F1787F08BA9742ADBC137076CB62AE8D@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>
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	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>
	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>
	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>
	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>
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	<F1787F08BA9742ADBC137076CB62AE8D@eileen>
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Thanks for that suggestion. Yes, I had the choice of when Milo cartridge alert would go off. I have mine set at 28 units, so I have time to get it changed if I am out or at work. I am trying to figure out how often I need to change my cartridge with this pump, since my old pump only had 150 units in each cartridge. This one has 300. Depending on my stress level and how much extra insulin I need to take throughout the day has not been consistent enough over the past several months for me. I will eventually get this all figured out!

     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jamie,
> 
> Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.
> 
> While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.
> 
> I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.
> 
> Just mentioning it and hope it helps.
> 
> Eileen
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
> 2nd button is act/OK
> 3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.
> 
> What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 16:27:08 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:27:08 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <F1787F08BA9742ADBC137076CB62AE8D@eileen>
References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com><011901d485f8$9d94b820$d8be2860$@aol.com>	<03eb01d4864e$2a06b240$7e1416c0$@gmail.com>
	<F1787F08BA9742ADBC137076CB62AE8D@eileen>
Message-ID: <0bca01d4866e$0b471780$21d54680$@gmail.com>

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 16:27:53 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:27:53 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com>	<011901d485f8$9d94b820$d8be2860$@aol.com>	<03eb01d4864e$2a06b240$7e1416c0$@gmail.com>	<F1787F08BA9742ADBC137076CB62AE8D@eileen>
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Oh, this answers my last question ?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:17 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks for that suggestion. Yes, I had the choice of when Milo cartridge alert would go off. I have mine set at 28 units, so I have time to get it changed if I am out or at work. I am trying to figure out how often I need to change my cartridge with this pump, since my old pump only had 150 units in each cartridge. This one has 300. Depending on my stress level and how much extra insulin I need to take throughout the day has not been consistent enough over the past several months for me. I will eventually get this all figured out!

     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jamie,
> 
> Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.
> 
> While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.
> 
> I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.
> 
> Just mentioning it and hope it helps.
> 
> Eileen
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
> 2nd button is act/OK
> 3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.
> 
> What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Nov 27 16:46:28 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:46:28 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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References: <8DC2D23A171D47289167BCAEE061CA94@eileen>	<971B1B05-6219-425D-BEEA-76075E69D84B@gmail.com>	<e01101d4667f$d1fb63e0$75f22ba0$@aol.com>	<002001d467d4$fd7c3390$f8749ab0$@gmail.com>	<004901d467e0$1921ae80$4b650b80$@aol.com>	<019e01d485a0$db705260$9250f720$@gmail.com><011901d485f8$9d94b820$d8be2860$@aol.com>	<03eb01d4864e$2a06b240$7e1416c0$@gmail.com><F1787F08BA9742ADBC137076CB62AE8D@eileen>
	<0bca01d4866e$0b471780$21d54680$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54968FC73F3A4BECBF23E43C580713D9@eileen>

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 18:00:27 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:00:27 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
In-Reply-To: <54968FC73F3A4BECBF23E43C580713D9@eileen>
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	<54968FC73F3A4BECBF23E43C580713D9@eileen>
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I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

				Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Nov 27 19:04:23 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:04:23 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 19:12:02 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:12:02 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Great idea, and Saturday is Dec. 1!

				Jamie


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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 20:31:39 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:31:39 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Thanks, that's helpful.

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

				Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 20:33:07 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:33:07 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:05:55 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:08:52 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Nov 27 21:20:31 2018
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:20:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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That, I can?t tell you since I have only ever bought the standard alkaline variety.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Nov 27 22:28:49 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:28:49 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 22:59:46 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:59:46 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Well, it reads what little is on the screen that is print! Like I said, the battery and cartridge levels are pictures of each with a lying depicting how much is left in each. My daughter just looked at my cartridge, and it shows three lines. For lines means it is full.



I have not tried using it to read the menu screen though. There isn?t much that I need to do that requires me to read it.


     Jamie

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> On Nov 27, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
> I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
> I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.
> 
> One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Hi Jamie,
> 
> Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.
> 
> While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.
> 
> I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.
> 
> Just mentioning it and hope it helps.
> 
> Eileen
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
> 2nd button is act/OK
> 3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.
> 
> What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
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> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
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From blindhands at aol.com  Tue Nov 27 23:07:41 2018
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:07:41 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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I use the Energizer batteries and change them on the 1st & 15th of the month.

I don't have a clue what line I have left, but the person that trained me told me to pick 2 dates out of a month and change the battery then.  I also use the width of my thumb to measure how much insulin to put in the vial and I change that on the odd day of the month.

Since I had the pump 530G this is the way I do it as I do not have much sighted help around.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:21 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That, I can?t tell you since I have only ever bought the standard alkaline variety.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 01:17:45 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (Jamie Gurganus)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 19:17:45 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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I like that plan. Since Saturday is December 1, I will start doing the same.


     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:07 PM, blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use the Energizer batteries and change them on the 1st & 15th of the month.
> 
> I don't have a clue what line I have left, but the person that trained me told me to pick 2 dates out of a month and change the battery then.  I also use the width of my thumb to measure how much insulin to put in the vial and I change that on the odd day of the month.
> 
> Since I had the pump 530G this is the way I do it as I do not have much sighted help around.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:21 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That, I can?t tell you since I have only ever bought the standard alkaline variety.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:33 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
> I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.
> 
> One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Hi Jamie,
> 
> Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.
> 
> While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.
> 
> I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.
> 
> Just mentioning it and hope it helps.
> 
> Eileen
> From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Jamie,
> 
> Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
> 2nd button is act/OK
> 3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.
> 
> What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  
> 
> Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 
> 
> The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  
> 
> Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.
> 
> If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Joyce,
> 
>     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.
> 
> I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
> 
> Eileen,
> 
> I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
>     Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
>> 
>> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
>> 
>> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>> 
>> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>> 
>> Eileen
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 06:28:18 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:28:18 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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I'm still waiting to train with the 530G. It's been a real cluster with getting all my supplies from Medtronic. Hoping this isn't a sign of things to come. I should hopefully receive my reservoirs in a couple of days and set an appt. to train and start using. Initially, the Seeing AI app read my Animas screen just fine. But for a couple of years now, it hasn't. Hoping it will do better with the Medtronic but not holding my breath. Veronica, I know you will agree, but I miss my Cosmo, deep sigh...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:29 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 12:07:38 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 06:07:38 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Bridget,

     I found it strange that my resavoirs didn't arrive along with my pump.  I had to call to make sure they were on their way.  Luckily, I use a cartridge filling program through Midwest IV in Minnesota, and they had resovoirs in stock to send me my weekly order prior to my training date.  They have been so nice to work with over the 20 years I've been using them.

I filled my own cartridges for months after getting my first pump, but I was having trouble with any little bubble causing problems with insulin delivery.  My educator told me about the pre-filled cartridge service, and I've been so thankful of their existence.  

I hope your rresovoirs arrive soon.  I took lots of notes during my training, which I'd be glad to share with you.  I only have directions on changing the cartridge, confirming an alarm and the simple task of changing the battery.  You don't have to do anything except change it on this pump.    

				Jamie
     

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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I'm still waiting to train with the 530G. It's been a real cluster with getting all my supplies from Medtronic. Hoping this isn't a sign of things to come. I should hopefully receive my reservoirs in a couple of days and set an appt. to train and start using. Initially, the Seeing AI app read my Animas screen just fine. But for a couple of years now, it hasn't. Hoping it will do better with the Medtronic but not holding my breath. Veronica, I know you will agree, but I miss my Cosmo, deep sigh...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From underdogmj at comcast.net  Wed Nov 28 13:19:16 2018
From: underdogmj at comcast.net (Lester Cameron)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 08:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Hello My name is Lester and I have a question
Can I used rechargeable  batteries
Also do they make a talking batterie  charger
I am looking  for one that can tell me if it is a rechargeable or it is not
thank you from Lester
>From the three c's

-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer 
batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. 
Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, 
they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries 
with the Omnipod.
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula 
every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every 
new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin>
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on 
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the 
Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every 
month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen 
Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the 
beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer 
brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my 
lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, 
Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off 
I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, 
it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and 
help me with something I could have prevented to begin with.
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the 
drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the 
middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a 
picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it. 
If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids 
check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed 
very soon.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen 
Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and 
that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd 
day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because 
then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, 
should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the 
next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order 
the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I 
think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of 
insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump 
that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, 
and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen 
Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it 
gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the 
pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin 
cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when 
I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t 
get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir 
every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is 
necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit 
should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model 
Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and 
then Cancel?

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left 
and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting 
from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one 
press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is 
used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act 
You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as 
if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original 
screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what 
you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the 
screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute 
to set back.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie 
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:58 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the 
cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How 
do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) 
and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and 
it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my 
other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a 
lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days 
or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often 
forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with 
it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you 
to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, 
but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It 
was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you 
get comfortable with it.

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can 
you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a 
while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found 
walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch 
the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told 
me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few 
steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit 
the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you 
feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last 
hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in 
my mind now.

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and 
you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to 
start over.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie 
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down 
without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, 
but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was 
nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very 
well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I 
run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs 
and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it 
back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie 
Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works 
great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a 
lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and 
not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the 
new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin 
> pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able 
> to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving 
> easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or 
> not.
>
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics 
> before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least 
> somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be 
> out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay 
> for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be 
> paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am 
> currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. 
> Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is 
> very creepy of them!
>
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales 
> rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later 
> today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a 
> new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at 
> all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best 
> to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even 
> though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able 
> to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
>
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
>
> Eileen
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 15:21:52 2018
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:21:52 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Jamie,

It's been such a cluster. I moved in early October, so when Medtronic was ready to ship my new pump and supplies, I spoke with the rep and made sure my address was up-to-date. He confirmed it. He told me the reservoirs would ship separately since they were on back order. The pump, cannulas and meter shipped to the correct address, but when I didn't receive the reservoirs, I contacted them and I was told they showed up as delivered. I said I didn't have them, so they sent another shipment. Meanwhile, I had to cancel my training. The reservoirs were suppose to ship overnight but again never came. A Medtronic customer care person called and left a voicemail, in which he said the wrong address. Not even my last address but one I haven't lived at for several years. I was literally on the phone all day trying to figure this all out. They gave me a little attitude about how the wrong address is what they have on file, but I asked why the pump shipped to the correct address but not the reservoirs. Obviously I gave them the correct address at some point. She got quiet then told me a new shipment would be sent and confirmed my new address 3 times. Hopefully it takes.

Where do you get your prefilled cartridges? Do you have Medicare?

I've been working with my nurse eds for years. Like 15 years. They trained me on all my pumps-- Cosmo, Animas and now Medtronic. She's already sent me written directions, and I've trained them on how to work with a blind person, grin. But, I'm sure I will have questions of this group.

I also received my Dexcom this week, yeah!

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:08 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Bridget,

     I found it strange that my resavoirs didn't arrive along with my pump.  I had to call to make sure they were on their way.  Luckily, I use a cartridge filling program through Midwest IV in Minnesota, and they had resovoirs in stock to send me my weekly order prior to my training date.  They have been so nice to work with over the 20 years I've been using them.

I filled my own cartridges for months after getting my first pump, but I was having trouble with any little bubble causing problems with insulin delivery.  My educator told me about the pre-filled cartridge service, and I've been so thankful of their existence.  

I hope your rresovoirs arrive soon.  I took lots of notes during my training, which I'd be glad to share with you.  I only have directions on changing the cartridge, confirming an alarm and the simple task of changing the battery.  You don't have to do anything except change it on this pump.    

				Jamie
     

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:28 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I'm still waiting to train with the 530G. It's been a real cluster with getting all my supplies from Medtronic. Hoping this isn't a sign of things to come. I should hopefully receive my reservoirs in a couple of days and set an appt. to train and start using. Initially, the Seeing AI app read my Animas screen just fine. But for a couple of years now, it hasn't. Hoping it will do better with the Medtronic but not holding my breath. Veronica, I know you will agree, but I miss my Cosmo, deep sigh...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From jamielgurganus at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 16:11:15 2018
From: jamielgurganus at gmail.com (jamielgurganus at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:11:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Bridget,

     What an unbelievable story about the address mix-up.  

I get my cartridges filled at Midwest I.V. out of Moundsville, MN.  Their phone number is 763-780-1500.  They answer as RX Express, since they are a pharmacy.  I work with Kathy in the Cartridge Filling service.  

As for my insurance, I have Medicare and Blue Cross.  I am pretty sure my Blue Cross covers the insulin, since I only had that insurance when I started there ages ago.  I'm not sure if Medicare covers the service, but you can call and ask them.

				Jamie


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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:22 AM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

It's been such a cluster. I moved in early October, so when Medtronic was ready to ship my new pump and supplies, I spoke with the rep and made sure my address was up-to-date. He confirmed it. He told me the reservoirs would ship separately since they were on back order. The pump, cannulas and meter shipped to the correct address, but when I didn't receive the reservoirs, I contacted them and I was told they showed up as delivered. I said I didn't have them, so they sent another shipment. Meanwhile, I had to cancel my training. The reservoirs were suppose to ship overnight but again never came. A Medtronic customer care person called and left a voicemail, in which he said the wrong address. Not even my last address but one I haven't lived at for several years. I was literally on the phone all day trying to figure this all out. They gave me a little attitude about how the wrong address is what they have on file, but I asked why the pump shipped to the correct address but not the reservoirs. Obviously I gave them the correct address at some point. She got quiet then told me a new shipment would be sent and confirmed my new address 3 times. Hopefully it takes.

Where do you get your prefilled cartridges? Do you have Medicare?

I've been working with my nurse eds for years. Like 15 years. They trained me on all my pumps-- Cosmo, Animas and now Medtronic. She's already sent me written directions, and I've trained them on how to work with a blind person, grin. But, I'm sure I will have questions of this group.

I also received my Dexcom this week, yeah!

Bridgit

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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Bridget,

     I found it strange that my resavoirs didn't arrive along with my pump.  I had to call to make sure they were on their way.  Luckily, I use a cartridge filling program through Midwest IV in Minnesota, and they had resovoirs in stock to send me my weekly order prior to my training date.  They have been so nice to work with over the 20 years I've been using them.

I filled my own cartridges for months after getting my first pump, but I was having trouble with any little bubble causing problems with insulin delivery.  My educator told me about the pre-filled cartridge service, and I've been so thankful of their existence.  

I hope your rresovoirs arrive soon.  I took lots of notes during my training, which I'd be glad to share with you.  I only have directions on changing the cartridge, confirming an alarm and the simple task of changing the battery.  You don't have to do anything except change it on this pump.    

				Jamie
     

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I'm still waiting to train with the 530G. It's been a real cluster with getting all my supplies from Medtronic. Hoping this isn't a sign of things to come. I should hopefully receive my reservoirs in a couple of days and set an appt. to train and start using. Initially, the Seeing AI app read my Animas screen just fine. But for a couple of years now, it hasn't. Hoping it will do better with the Medtronic but not holding my breath. Veronica, I know you will agree, but I miss my Cosmo, deep sigh...

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Nov 28 18:34:34 2018
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:34:34 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Lester, to my knowledge, none of the current pumps use rechargeable batteries. The Tandem T-slim gets recharged through USB but no way can we use that pump.
And Bridgit, oh yes big time on the Cozmo. I've never had access to as many features as I did with that pump. In all of today's pump, changing basal rates for certain segments of time, insulin to carb ratios and things like that are requiring so many steps that it's amazing anyone gets it done and the list of things I don't do without sighted assistance has grown. With the Cozmo, one time I had a pump replaced because its warranty was up. The pump arrived during the day and I was able to set most of it up and have it connected and working before my hubby got home from work. No way these days. 
But I can still do quite a few things with my Omnipod. I know the steps for changing time, basals, etc but don't quite completely trust myself unwatched. <grin> 
But I can enter BG readings, check insulin on board, enter carbs, do a regular bolus, set temp basals, stop and restart the pump, change the pod and batteries, check status of a bunch of stuff and probably another thing or two I'm not thinking of at the moment. I think if I couldn't have the working insulin on board feature I'm not sure I'd bother. It has helped me the most of any of the pump features. 
The one thing I do miss is being able to fill a cartridge and put it in for a week and forget it, only changing the cannula every couple of days. That part was nice and pretty carefree. I still stress a bit on pod changing night because of the darn tape. And Seeing AI is still saving my back side, reading the screen quite well.
And Bridgit, I had your same experience trying to read the Animas screen, starting out pretty nice and then going south. When I played with the Medtronic pumps, I couldn't get Seeing AI to read the screen. But I wasn't in an environment I could control either. Although I have often read my Omnipod screen while sitting in a coffee shop or something. 
Here's hoping you get reservoirs soon, Bridgit.
Veronica


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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Bridget,

     What an unbelievable story about the address mix-up.  

I get my cartridges filled at Midwest I.V. out of Moundsville, MN.  Their phone number is 763-780-1500.  They answer as RX Express, since they are a pharmacy.  I work with Kathy in the Cartridge Filling service.  

As for my insurance, I have Medicare and Blue Cross.  I am pretty sure my Blue Cross covers the insulin, since I only had that insurance when I started there ages ago.  I'm not sure if Medicare covers the service, but you can call and ask them.

				Jamie


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Jamie,

It's been such a cluster. I moved in early October, so when Medtronic was ready to ship my new pump and supplies, I spoke with the rep and made sure my address was up-to-date. He confirmed it. He told me the reservoirs would ship separately since they were on back order. The pump, cannulas and meter shipped to the correct address, but when I didn't receive the reservoirs, I contacted them and I was told they showed up as delivered. I said I didn't have them, so they sent another shipment. Meanwhile, I had to cancel my training. The reservoirs were suppose to ship overnight but again never came. A Medtronic customer care person called and left a voicemail, in which he said the wrong address. Not even my last address but one I haven't lived at for several years. I was literally on the phone all day trying to figure this all out. They gave me a little attitude about how the wrong address is what they have on file, but I asked why the pump shipped to the correct address but not the reservoirs. Obviously I gave them the correct address at some point. She got quiet then told me a new shipment would be sent and confirmed my new address 3 times. Hopefully it takes.

Where do you get your prefilled cartridges? Do you have Medicare?

I've been working with my nurse eds for years. Like 15 years. They trained me on all my pumps-- Cosmo, Animas and now Medtronic. She's already sent me written directions, and I've trained them on how to work with a blind person, grin. But, I'm sure I will have questions of this group.

I also received my Dexcom this week, yeah!

Bridgit

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Bridget,

     I found it strange that my resavoirs didn't arrive along with my pump.  I had to call to make sure they were on their way.  Luckily, I use a cartridge filling program through Midwest IV in Minnesota, and they had resovoirs in stock to send me my weekly order prior to my training date.  They have been so nice to work with over the 20 years I've been using them.

I filled my own cartridges for months after getting my first pump, but I was having trouble with any little bubble causing problems with insulin delivery.  My educator told me about the pre-filled cartridge service, and I've been so thankful of their existence.  

I hope your rresovoirs arrive soon.  I took lots of notes during my training, which I'd be glad to share with you.  I only have directions on changing the cartridge, confirming an alarm and the simple task of changing the battery.  You don't have to do anything except change it on this pump.    

				Jamie
     

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I'm still waiting to train with the 530G. It's been a real cluster with getting all my supplies from Medtronic. Hoping this isn't a sign of things to come. I should hopefully receive my reservoirs in a couple of days and set an appt. to train and start using. Initially, the Seeing AI app read my Animas screen just fine. But for a couple of years now, it hasn't. Hoping it will do better with the Medtronic but not holding my breath. Veronica, I know you will agree, but I miss my Cosmo, deep sigh...

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:35:20 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.
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Thanks.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Bridget,

     What an unbelievable story about the address mix-up.  

I get my cartridges filled at Midwest I.V. out of Moundsville, MN.  Their phone number is 763-780-1500.  They answer as RX Express, since they are a pharmacy.  I work with Kathy in the Cartridge Filling service.  

As for my insurance, I have Medicare and Blue Cross.  I am pretty sure my Blue Cross covers the insulin, since I only had that insurance when I started there ages ago.  I'm not sure if Medicare covers the service, but you can call and ask them.

				Jamie


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

It's been such a cluster. I moved in early October, so when Medtronic was ready to ship my new pump and supplies, I spoke with the rep and made sure my address was up-to-date. He confirmed it. He told me the reservoirs would ship separately since they were on back order. The pump, cannulas and meter shipped to the correct address, but when I didn't receive the reservoirs, I contacted them and I was told they showed up as delivered. I said I didn't have them, so they sent another shipment. Meanwhile, I had to cancel my training. The reservoirs were suppose to ship overnight but again never came. A Medtronic customer care person called and left a voicemail, in which he said the wrong address. Not even my last address but one I haven't lived at for several years. I was literally on the phone all day trying to figure this all out. They gave me a little attitude about how the wrong address is what they have on file, but I asked why the pump shipped to the correct address but not the reservoirs. Obviously I gave them the correct address at some point. She got quiet then told me a new shipment would be sent and confirmed my new address 3 times. Hopefully it takes.

Where do you get your prefilled cartridges? Do you have Medicare?

I've been working with my nurse eds for years. Like 15 years. They trained me on all my pumps-- Cosmo, Animas and now Medtronic. She's already sent me written directions, and I've trained them on how to work with a blind person, grin. But, I'm sure I will have questions of this group.

I also received my Dexcom this week, yeah!

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:08 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Bridget,

     I found it strange that my resavoirs didn't arrive along with my pump.  I had to call to make sure they were on their way.  Luckily, I use a cartridge filling program through Midwest IV in Minnesota, and they had resovoirs in stock to send me my weekly order prior to my training date.  They have been so nice to work with over the 20 years I've been using them.

I filled my own cartridges for months after getting my first pump, but I was having trouble with any little bubble causing problems with insulin delivery.  My educator told me about the pre-filled cartridge service, and I've been so thankful of their existence.  

I hope your rresovoirs arrive soon.  I took lots of notes during my training, which I'd be glad to share with you.  I only have directions on changing the cartridge, confirming an alarm and the simple task of changing the battery.  You don't have to do anything except change it on this pump.    

				Jamie
     

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:28 AM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I'm still waiting to train with the 530G. It's been a real cluster with getting all my supplies from Medtronic. Hoping this isn't a sign of things to come. I should hopefully receive my reservoirs in a couple of days and set an appt. to train and start using. Initially, the Seeing AI app read my Animas screen just fine. But for a couple of years now, it hasn't. Hoping it will do better with the Medtronic but not holding my breath. Veronica, I know you will agree, but I miss my Cosmo, deep sigh...

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Yeah, it's just that some small town drug stores didn't have any lithiam batteries. Now I have leftovers. <grin> And I am happy using ordinary batteries again. The batteries in the Omnipod seem to last about four weeks. As far as knowing how much insulin is left, the Omnipod is funny there. It says, 50+ until you reach 50 units and then there's a number that shows. I still think the Cozmo won this game though. That number was easy for a sighted person to find. It's easy for Seeing AI to find on the Omnipod. How is Seeing AI doing with the 530G screen?
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

You can buy lithium in any brand. I've used Energize lithium before ?

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

The Medtronic rep told me that you are only allowed to use Energizer batteries in their pumps. I also did find that written down somewhere. Frankly, while I did use the fancy batteries in the Animas, when traveling, they could sometimes be a bit hard to find. I'm back to normal aaa batteries with the Omnipod. 
I do sometimes miss the convenience of being able to change the cannula every couple of days but keep using the same cartridge for a week. But every new bit of tech gives a little and takes a bit. <grin> Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Does battery life matter depending on what type of batteries? With the Animas, if you use standard alkaline batteries, you have to change every month or so, but if using lithium, they last forever, like 3 months.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

With my pump I have just always changed the battery every month at the beginning of the month no matter what. Provided I am using the Energizer brand batteries never a problem. Once I got Kodak on sale and I learned my lesson when the battery up and died after about 2 or 3 days! Never again, Energizers are the only way to go. By stopping as many alarms from going off I don?t need to panic and try to guess what its chattering at me about. And, it also eliminates the need to unnecessarily bother people to come over and help me with something I could have prevented to begin with. 
I know the more pressing of buttons and playing with the pump the faster the drain on the battery charge goes down.

Eileen


From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I always change mine once the 20 unit alarm goes off, unless it is in the middle of the night.

One negative about the 530G is that the cartridge and battery indicator is a picture with a line showing how full they are.  So, Seeing AI can't read it.  If I think I'm close to needing to change either, I have one of my kids check how many lines are on them.  One line means they need to be changed very soon.  

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:46 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

My model can hold up to 3ML. Typically I fill it to approx 180-200 units and that is good for at least 3-4 days worth. I try to change it out every 3rd day, regardless of how much insulin is left in it. This also works because then I know that from 1 bottle of insulin I get no more than 5 changes. But, should I get too busy or forgetful the reservoir is usually okay until the next morning or afternoon when I can change it out. I think when you order the pump you can select a model that will hold only either 1 or 2ml, but I think that is geared towards a child who would be on a lesser amount of insulin. I seem to remember that for an adult you will be set up with a pump that holds a 3Ml reservoir.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

How many mls do the Medtronic reservoirs hold? With my Animas, it's 200 mls, and this last me 5 to 7 days. Curious, thanks.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:27 AM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Hi Jamie,

Just a comment on the alerts sounding on your Medtronic 530 pump when it gets low on insulin.

While I am still using my Medtronic 723 Paradigm, when it was set up by the pump trainer, she was able to set it so I would not receive low insulin cartridge alerts. The only low cartridge/reservoir alert that sounds is when I have gotten down to about the last 5 or 7 units. By setting this, I don?t get annoying alerts and its up to me to be sure to change out the reservoir every 3 days. I can do this because I put in a little more insulin than is necessary to get me through a three day span and the insulin is in the unit should I need to administer extra bolis & refill dosages.

I would think that this is something that could be set on your newer model Medtronics pump as well.

Just mentioning it and hope it helps.

Eileen
From: Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Thanks!  So, when it alarms, you press Act and then Act again or Act and then Cancel?

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Jamie,

Now I did send a note in about bolusing and I am not sure if I got my left and right mixed up.  So folks please let me say:  the bottom row starting from the right going to the left is1ST  down arrow moves down a list one press at a time.
2nd button is act/OK
3rd buttom going toward the left is cancel button  and the 4th button is used with another button to unlock the screen.

What you said Jamie is correct, but I press the Act button, then the Act   You should get a couple of beeps like OK.  Just wait a few more seconds as if you don't delay it needs a little time to return back to the original screen.  If you jump ahead to fast it leaves you stuck in the middle of what you were doing.  So be patient and take your time.  I cannot see when the screen reverts back, but I did learn  to maybe get up and give it a minute to set back.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Just wanted to let you know that I have just about mastered changing the cartridge without consulting my notes!  I do have one question though.  How do you cancel an alert/alarm?  My notes say to press Escape (2nd from left) and then Act (third from left).  That doesn't seem to cancel it though, and it never fails that my low cartridge goes off in the middle of the night.  

Otherwise, I like this pump.  I like the slow infusion of a bolus, since my other pumps used to burn.  I am also finding that the infusion sets last a lot longer than my other ones.  I always had to change my set every two days or else it would leak.  I have yet to have one leak on me, and I often forget how long I've had one in.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:15 PM
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Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

That took a bit longer to get it down perfect every time.  The bummer with it if you don't have sighted help if you call Meditronic help they want you to read the screen.  Some are willing to work with you as a bklind person, but others would tell me to call back when I had a sighted person home.  It was frustrating in the beginning, but the more you work with it the more you get comfortable with it. 

The one large problem I had with the help line and when I asked them how can you go back a step?  They gave me this, "You can't".  Well it did take me a while to figure this out if you just don't touch the screen [I  found walking away from it] but within [I do not know how long] but DON'T Touch the screen, The screen will blank out and you can start over.  No one told me that and if you are like me I want it fixed NOW.It is those last few steps of putting in the full cartridge of insulin hit the act twice,  hit the bottom right and then the act & hold it down to fill tubing, when you feel drops hit the cancel [3rd from lefton bottom], then far right  and last hit the cancel [3rd button to the left corner at the bottom.  See it is in my mind now.  

Just remember if you can't think where you are walk away and come back and you can start over.

If you return too fast you might still not have given it long enough to start over.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:56 PM
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Cc: jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Joyce,

     How long did it take you to get the cartridge change sequence down without needing to use your notes?  The rest of the pump is simple to use, but changing the cartridge has so many steps to it.

Jamie


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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

I have been using the Medtronic 530G pump for a year and a half now.  I was nervous at the beginning and I am home on my own and manage things very well.  It  took some getting use to, but let me say since I got the Dexcom I run smoothly.  Between using my Medtronic pump, Dexcom & my IPhone my highs and lows have really smoothed out.

I really wanted the 630 G, but without IPhone access I am happy I sent it back and got the 530 model.

Joyce

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:18 PM
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Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Medtronic Insulin Pump Delima.

Eileen,

I just started on the med Tronic 530 G on October 12.  So far, it works great. It is very simple to use, except for the cartridge change. It has a lot of sequences, but I am sure I will get it down after a few changes and not have to reference my notes each time. It uses The same supplies as the new were pumps. Hope this helps.
     Jamie

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need some feed-back from those of you who are using a Medtronics insulin pump. I?d like to know what model you?re using and if you alone are able to work it by changing the infusion set, filling the reservoir and giving easy bolis dosages. I don?t care if the bells & whistles are available or not.
> 
> I?m considering buying an insulin pump out of pocket from Medtronics before they discontinue the models on October 26 that are at least somewhat accessible to us. My current pump, a Paradigm Revel 723,  will be out of its warrantee in January next year and Medicare will in no way pay for an upgrade before the end of the 5 year period. Even though I would be paying out of pocket, they will not let me buy the same model I am currently using and my warrantee coverage will still end in January 2019. Medtronics will not extend a 4 year warrantee to me which, yes, I know is very creepy of them!
> 
> I think they are telling me I can upgrade to a Paradigm 530, but the sales rep had to talk with his supervisor and is going to get back to me later today with details of what I can/cannot do. I thought it would extend a new 4 year warrantee, if it doesn?t I?m back to thinking why upgrade at all and why not just stick with my 723. The sales rep says its always best to upgrade to the most recent ? Hahaha ? I don?t think he gets it even though I?ve told him enumerable times that I?m blind and need to be able to feel the buttons and use the pump with complete independence.
> 
> Thanks and hope to hear from you folks soon.
> 
> Eileen
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RESEARCH: Since its inception, the Association has invested more than $807 million in research and provided funding for more than 4,700 research projects.  <https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30489975/main.diabetes.org?p=eyJzIjoiQjVWR1NlTFd4VGpvYzJwRkk3X1R4YzhrUWFJIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDQ4OTk3NSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWFpbi5kaWFiZXRlcy5vcmdcXFwvc2l0ZVxcXC9SP2k9MGVNY2tvZTFYeFF3S293YXlNREdtUVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImFmOWY2MGU5NTFhYzQ2ZDM4MWU2NTNkYWI1NTU1MDJiXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiMzUyOWM5ZmQ4ZGI5ZWM1YzU3MzliMmM3NGRiOWM0ODMwNDIzOWY5MVwiXX0ifQ> Learn more.

CAMPS: The Association continues to be the largest provider of camps for children living with diabetes, as well as weekend retreats and one-day events that benefit more than 6,500 children of all ages each year. $500,000 in "camperships" was awarded to children to attend summer camps for children living with diabetes.  <https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30489975/main.diabetes.org?p=eyJzIjoiZk9iWWZ3cWgwdnAtdWU4ZWVla3NLb0ctMWJBIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDQ4OTk3NSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWFpbi5kaWFiZXRlcy5vcmdcXFwvc2l0ZVxcXC9SP2k9akNZaGg5Q1ZEb0kwcWllZlZEcktCQVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImFmOWY2MGU5NTFhYzQ2ZDM4MWU2NTNkYWI1NTU1MDJiXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiMzUyOWM5ZmQ4ZGI5ZWM1YzU3MzliMmM3NGRiOWM0ODMwNDIzOWY5MVwiXX0ifQ> Learn more.

ADVOCACY: Our Advocacy team helps thousands facing discrimination and protects the rights of children with diabetes to have the care they need at school. Thanks to the efforts of our advocates, the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments help protect all those with diabetes fighting for fairness in the workplace.  <https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30489975/main.diabetes.org?p=eyJzIjoiUUNwS25zY2l6aFRreE1hOE9hZUhZLTZtN19rIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDQ4OTk3NSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWFpbi5kaWFiZXRlcy5vcmdcXFwvc2l0ZVxcXC9SP2k9cWxQeTgyaFlyOTdYTW9uNFc5VmxXZ1wiLFwiaWRcIjpcImFmOWY2MGU5NTFhYzQ2ZDM4MWU2NTNkYWI1NTU1MDJiXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiMzUyOWM5ZmQ4ZGI5ZWM1YzU3MzliMmM3NGRiOWM0ODMwNDIzOWY5MVwiXX0ifQ> Learn more.

Help continue the mission to end diabetes and its burdens by joining the  <https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30489975/main.diabetes.org?p=eyJzIjoia2Z5RDI2ZGFKZ2ZOWlE2b2ktaDFCQjRwTml3IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDQ4OTk3NSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWFpbi5kaWFiZXRlcy5vcmdcXFwvc2l0ZVxcXC9SP2k9VEpnRDB0MC1BQ0xHRHNBeWdIN1FLUVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImFmOWY2MGU5NTFhYzQ2ZDM4MWU2NTNkYWI1NTU1MDJiXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiMzUyOWM5ZmQ4ZGI5ZWM1YzU3MzliMmM3NGRiOWM0ODMwNDIzOWY5MVwiXX0ifQ> Wine Country Tour de Cure on April 28 at Sonoma State University. 

  <https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30489975/main.diabetes.org?p=eyJzIjoibTRHamRaSWl5Z0pUOGRSVlhuRFZMNWZaeEQwIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDQ4OTk3NSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWFpbi5kaWFiZXRlcy5vcmdcXFwvc2l0ZVxcXC9SP2k9MnFybnVYaENteENJQk1fdy1YWUkyd1wiLFwiaWRcIjpcImFmOWY2MGU5NTFhYzQ2ZDM4MWU2NTNkYWI1NTU1MDJiXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiMzUyOWM5ZmQ4ZGI5ZWM1YzU3MzliMmM3NGRiOWM0ODMwNDIzOWY5MVwiXX0ifQ> 

This year's event features 12, 30, 63 or 100 mile cycling routes and a 5K Run/Walk.

Thank you,

Your Wine Country Tour Team
Tom Hall
 <mailto:THall at diabetes.org> THall at diabetes.org 
510-654-4499 ext. 7460

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