From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 00:05:17 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:05:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Ok, for those who do havea cgm how easy to use for some one that is blind. How hard is it to learn how to use one.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
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The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at?  Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  1 15:04:49 2016
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:04:49 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Hello Gary,

I am using the DexCom G5 mobile system independently, and it is very easy to use. A side note I don?t have any remaining vision. The sensor was tricky to learn to adhere to my abdomen. I had the help of my sighted spouse at first. After I had her help me with placing the sensor a couple of times I tried it for the first time, and it went ok, I did have a couple of spots that wrinkled in the adhesive patch that holds the sensor to your body. I do this now without any issues. That was the steepest learning curve. The app on the iPhone is simple to use and works very well with VoiceOver.

Ed
On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:05 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Ok, for those who do havea cgm how easy to use for some one that is blind. How hard is it to learn how to use one.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at? Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net<mailto:etscrivani at verizon.net>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it. If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway.
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it.
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com<mailto:veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn!
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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               Veronica Elsea, Owner
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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps?


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 16:47:17 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:47:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Thanks for he information.  I will takea look at this solution nwhen I see my endocrinologist next month.  

 

From: ed worrell [mailto:ntnmprt at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 8:05 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

 

Hello Gary, 

 

I am using the DexCom G5 mobile system independently, and it is very easy to use. A side note I don?t have any remaining vision. The sensor was tricky to learn to adhere to my abdomen. I had the help of my sighted spouse at first. After I had her help me with placing the sensor a couple of times I tried it for the first time, and it went ok, I did have a couple of spots that wrinkled in the adhesive patch that holds the sensor to your body. I do this now without any issues. That was the steepest learning curve. The app on the iPhone is simple to use and works very well with VoiceOver.

 

Ed

On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:05 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

 

Ok, for those who do havea cgm how easy to use for some one that is blind. How hard is it to learn how to use one.  

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From: Diabetes-Talk [ <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 4:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:39 PM
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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at? Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 7:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it. If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Sep  2 02:03:51 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:03:51 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Oh Ed, you made my day! <grin> The tape was my toughest battle too aside from getting used to carrying my phone everywhere with me. I finally figured out a few tricks that seem to be giving me fewer wrinkles. I also discovered a medical tape called Mepore. It's just slightly bigger than the sensor. It has a backing piece and some peel-off sticky stuff on the front. My hubby made me a template so that I can cut the center out of the tape, peel off the backing, then place the tape on top of the Dexcom tape. It holds much better in the shower and gives me a second chance if I do get a wrinkle or two. Of course this week I had the perfect Dexcom taping and landed just a bit off center with the Mepore. <grin> I do agree the app is easy to use. I am also totally blind. It just took me some time getting used to living with the thing, just as it would for sighted people. 
And in two months, it has helped me lower my A1C. 
And Joyce, the idea of wearing a CGM for a few days and then turning it in for the doc to study has actually been around for quite a long time. I never did it because it is only a few days and I didn't like not getting to check out the data myself. Wearing one all the time lets me have a shot at figuring out why my body is reacting differently this week than last. I do wish the sensor/transmitter unit were just a little smaller though. I keep creaming mine on a drawer knob as I stand at the kitchen sink. <grin>
But boy have I learned a lot!
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
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Hello Gary,

I am using the DexCom G5 mobile system independently, and it is very easy to use. A side note I don?t have any remaining vision. The sensor was tricky to learn to adhere to my abdomen. I had the help of my sighted spouse at first. After I had her help me with placing the sensor a couple of times I tried it for the first time, and it went ok, I did have a couple of spots that wrinkled in the adhesive patch that holds the sensor to your body. I do this now without any issues. That was the steepest learning curve. The app on the iPhone is simple to use and works very well with VoiceOver.

Ed
On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:05 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Ok, for those who do havea cgm how easy to use for some one that is blind. How hard is it to learn how to use one.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at? Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
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Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it. If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway.
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it.
Veronica


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Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn!
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps?


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  2 16:42:52 2016
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:42:52 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Hey Veronica,

I am glad to hear that. The DexCom has helped me lower my A1C a bunch in the almost one year that I have been using it. I have also found that if you use the http://clarity.dexcom.com website you can get your estimated 14 day A1C levels, and you are also able to find all of your readings, and you can also share the data with your doctor. The site will also show you any trends that you may not see on your own. It told me that I had to high blood sugars last week that were related to previous low blood sugars, and it will give you a ton more information if you are willing to look at it.

Ed
On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Oh Ed, you made my day! <grin> The tape was my toughest battle too aside from getting used to carrying my phone everywhere with me. I finally figured out a few tricks that seem to be giving me fewer wrinkles. I also discovered a medical tape called Mepore. It's just slightly bigger than the sensor. It has a backing piece and some peel-off sticky stuff on the front. My hubby made me a template so that I can cut the center out of the tape, peel off the backing, then place the tape on top of the Dexcom tape. It holds much better in the shower and gives me a second chance if I do get a wrinkle or two. Of course this week I had the perfect Dexcom taping and landed just a bit off center with the Mepore. <grin> I do agree the app is easy to use. I am also totally blind. It just took me some time getting used to living with the thing, just as it would for sighted people.
And in two months, it has helped me lower my A1C.
And Joyce, the idea of wearing a CGM for a few days and then turning it in for the doc to study has actually been around for quite a long time. I never did it because it is only a few days and I didn't like not getting to check out the data myself. Wearing one all the time lets me have a shot at figuring out why my body is reacting differently this week than last. I do wish the sensor/transmitter unit were just a little smaller though. I keep creaming mine on a drawer knob as I stand at the kitchen sink. <grin>
But boy have I learned a lot!
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:05 AM
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Hello Gary,

I am using the DexCom G5 mobile system independently, and it is very easy to use. A side note I don?t have any remaining vision. The sensor was tricky to learn to adhere to my abdomen. I had the help of my sighted spouse at first. After I had her help me with placing the sensor a couple of times I tried it for the first time, and it went ok, I did have a couple of spots that wrinkled in the adhesive patch that holds the sensor to your body. I do this now without any issues. That was the steepest learning curve. The app on the iPhone is simple to use and works very well with VoiceOver.

Ed
On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:05 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Ok, for those who do havea cgm how easy to use for some one that is blind. How hard is it to learn how to use one.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at? Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
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Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it. If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway.
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it.
Veronica


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Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn!
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps?


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 16:52:46 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:52:46 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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That?s good to know. What does all tis cost.  Can it be covered by insurance as I havea ppop insurance plan. 




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 17:00:13 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:00:13 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Some insurances will cover CGMs. Not currently Medicare though.

My doctor told me the device itself will cost $1000, and the senors you wear would cost $35/week, or about $140/month.

Bridgit

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That?s good to know. What does all tis cost.  Can it be covered by insurance as I havea ppop insurance plan. 


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Sep  2 17:11:42 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:11:42 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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Wow! I'll go check it out. Have you tried the Dexcom Clarity app on the phone? Thanks again.
Veronica


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Hey Veronica,

I am glad to hear that. The DexCom has helped me lower my A1C a bunch in the almost one year that I have been using it. I have also found that if you use the http://clarity.dexcom.com website you can get your estimated 14 day A1C levels, and you are also able to find all of your readings, and you can also share the data with your doctor. The site will also show you any trends that you may not see on your own. It told me that I had to high blood sugars last week that were related to previous low blood sugars, and it will give you a ton more information if you are willing to look at it.

Ed
On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Oh Ed, you made my day! <grin> The tape was my toughest battle too aside from getting used to carrying my phone everywhere with me. I finally figured out a few tricks that seem to be giving me fewer wrinkles. I also discovered a medical tape called Mepore. It's just slightly bigger than the sensor. It has a backing piece and some peel-off sticky stuff on the front. My hubby made me a template so that I can cut the center out of the tape, peel off the backing, then place the tape on top of the Dexcom tape. It holds much better in the shower and gives me a second chance if I do get a wrinkle or two. Of course this week I had the perfect Dexcom taping and landed just a bit off center with the Mepore. <grin> I do agree the app is easy to use. I am also totally blind. It just took me some time getting used to living with the thing, just as it would for sighted people.
And in two months, it has helped me lower my A1C.
And Joyce, the idea of wearing a CGM for a few days and then turning it in for the doc to study has actually been around for quite a long time. I never did it because it is only a few days and I didn't like not getting to check out the data myself. Wearing one all the time lets me have a shot at figuring out why my body is reacting differently this week than last. I do wish the sensor/transmitter unit were just a little smaller though. I keep creaming mine on a drawer knob as I stand at the kitchen sink. <grin>
But boy have I learned a lot!
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:05 AM
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Hello Gary,

I am using the DexCom G5 mobile system independently, and it is very easy to use. A side note I don?t have any remaining vision. The sensor was tricky to learn to adhere to my abdomen. I had the help of my sighted spouse at first. After I had her help me with placing the sensor a couple of times I tried it for the first time, and it went ok, I did have a couple of spots that wrinkled in the adhesive patch that holds the sensor to your body. I do this now without any issues. That was the steepest learning curve. The app on the iPhone is simple to use and works very well with VoiceOver.

Ed
On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:05 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Ok, for those who do havea cgm how easy to use for some one that is blind. How hard is it to learn how to use one.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at? Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom.

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it. If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
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It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway.
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it.
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
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Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn!
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
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Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps?


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Sep  4 23:16:22 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 16:16:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Question for Dexcom users.
Message-ID: <000001d20702$59985450$0cc8fcf0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Hi everyone.
I have a question for you Dexcom veterans out there. My first transmitter is
about to expire. According to the manual, I should have already gotten low
transmitter battery warnings. Did those talk for you? I'm just wondering if
something may have flashed that VoiceOver didn't catch. Good thing I'm aware
of when it is supposed to expire.
In the meantime, I'm going to pair the new one early so I don't have to
remove a sensor early. Sheesh!
Thanks.
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 23:04:25 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:04:25 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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Hello I have now been on trulicity for 2 weeks. My numbers have been
basically cut in half. Also have lost 10 pounds in the 2 weeks. I am liking
this . 



From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 23:08:25 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:08:25 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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Did you have to try several other medications before you could have
Trulicity? My son tried it and loved it for the same reasons you do, but his
insurance denied it to him saying he hadn't tried other medications first.
He's on Victoza now and it's working, but not like the Trulicity did.

Thanks for letting us know about your experience.

Sandi


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Hello I have now been on trulicity for 2 weeks. My numbers have been
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 23:15:41 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:15:41 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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Actually I was on bidurian and tanzium an neither one of these my insurance
would cover but with trulicity they did and so far so good.i am happy it is
doing the  job. I will be seeing my endocrinologist at the  end of the month
to se how well I do with my a1c. my last a1 c was in the mid  7 and I would
like to get it down. My goal is to lose the weight an to get  my a1c in the
6 category if I can.  I am exercising and not eating as much as I was eating
prior to the trulicity injections.  I have not had any of the bad side
effects thank god .  

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Did you have to try several other medications before you could have
Trulicity? My son tried it and loved it for the same reasons you do, but his
insurance denied it to him saying he hadn't tried other medications first.
He's on Victoza now and it's working, but not like the Trulicity did.

Thanks for letting us know about your experience.

Sandi


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From dmgina at samobile.net  Thu Sep  8 14:01:46 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (d m gina)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:01:46 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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Is this a pill or a shot before each meal or once a day?
Does it curve the appetite?
Like that one shot I took and got so sick. Made my heart go so fast 
from a sound sleep.

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> basically cut in half. Also have lost 10 pounds in the 2 weeks. I am liking
> this .

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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 14:45:56 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:45:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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I believe it's a once-a-month injection? Side effects are supposed to be
milder than those from the other drugs, but if I remember right, the one you
had trouble with was Victoza, which is in that same family. It's also
related to byetta and bydurian. 

Sandi


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Is this a pill or a shot before each meal or once a day?
Does it curve the appetite?
Like that one shot I took and got so sick. Made my heart go so fast from a
sound sleep.

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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Sep  8 15:18:41 2016
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:18:41 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do 
"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, 
worse, or the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?

Thanks!

Dave

.




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 15:36:22 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 10:36:22 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, and
sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really affect the
carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when eating gluten-free.

And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't realize.
Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is a
product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in laymen's
terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, but it's also
used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky stuff on envelops.
It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.

Bridgit

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I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do
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the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?

Thanks!

Dave

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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Sep  8 15:53:00 2016
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:53:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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Thanks, I figured you would know.

Dave

At 10:36 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
>Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, and
>sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really affect the
>carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when eating gluten-free.
>
>And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't realize.
>Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is a
>product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in laymen's
>terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, but it's also
>used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky stuff on envelops.
>It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.
>
>Bridgit
>
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>David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
>
>I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do
>"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, worse, or
>the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave
>
>.




From Kim.Ladd at dbvi.virginia.gov  Thu Sep  8 15:49:19 2016
From: Kim.Ladd at dbvi.virginia.gov (Ladd, Kim (DBVI))
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 15:49:19 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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>From the American Diabetes Association:
Gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, barley and all foods that are made with these grains.
You may not expect it, but the following foods can also contain gluten: broth in soups and bouillon cubes, breadcrumbs, croutons, some candies, fried foods, imitation fish, some lunch meats, hot dogs, malt, matzo, modified food starch, seasoned chips and other seasoned snack foods, salad dressings, soy sauce, seasoned rice and pasta mixes There are also many additives and ingredients in packaged foods that may contain gluten.
Celiac disease is a digestive disorder. When someone with celiac disease eats food containing gluten, their body reacts by damaging the small intestine. Uncomfortable symptoms such as abdominal pain often occur. The damage to the small intestine also interferes with the body's ability to make use of the nutrients in food. About 1% of the total population has celiac disease. It is more common in people with type 1 diabetes. An estimated 10% of people with type 1 also have celiac. The only way to manage celiac disease is to completely avoid all foods that have gluten. Following a gluten-free diet will prevent permanent damage to your body and will help you feel better.

Kim Ladd, RN, BS, CPHQ
Diabetes Educator
Virginia Rehabilitation Center for the Blind & Vision Impaired

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:36 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, and sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really affect the carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when eating gluten-free.

And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't realize.
Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is a product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in laymen's terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, but it's also used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky stuff on envelops.
It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do "gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, worse, or the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?

Thanks!

Dave

.


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 16:13:38 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:13:38 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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No itsa once a wweek injection.  

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Is this a pill or a shot before each meal or once a day?
Does it curve the appetite?
Like that one shot I took and got so sick. Made my heart go so fast from a
sound sleep.

Original message:
> Hello I have now been on trulicity for 2 weeks. My numbers have been 
> basically cut in half. Also have lost 10 pounds in the 2 weeks. I am 
> liking this .

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 16:22:08 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:22:08 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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No itsa  once a week injection. There  are four needles in the box. You have
to  plan the day an time that you will inject it. It needs to be done on a
consistent basis. I have myine planned for every Tuesday. I have been doing
this for two weeks. I can say that its more effective then bidurian or
tanzium which I took both of them and had all kinds of issues from stomach
pain to other  side effects. I have not had any of the side effects
associated with trulicity.    

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:46 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity

I believe it's a once-a-month injection? Side effects are supposed to be
milder than those from the other drugs, but if I remember right, the one you
had trouble with was Victoza, which is in that same family. It's also
related to byetta and bydurian. 

Sandi


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m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 9:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity

Is this a pill or a shot before each meal or once a day?
Does it curve the appetite?
Like that one shot I took and got so sick. Made my heart go so fast from a
sound sleep.

Original message:
> Hello I have now been on trulicity for 2 weeks. My numbers have been 
> basically cut in half. Also have lost 10 pounds in the 2 weeks. I am 
> liking this .

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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 16:29:45 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:29:45 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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One tiny correction: Gluten occurs naturally in wheat, so it isn't added to
products such as breads, cereals, and other grain products--it's just there.
A lot of the reason it occurs in other products is because wheat is used in
those products, whether that makes any sense or not. A few other grains also
contribute gluten, so if you have celiac disease, it's important to read
labels.

Sandi


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David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

Thanks, I figured you would know.

Dave

At 10:36 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
>Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, 
>and sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really 
>affect the carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when eating
gluten-free.
>
>And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't
realize.
>Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is 
>a product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in 
>laymen's terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, 
>but it's also used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky
stuff on envelops.
>It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
>
>I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do 
>"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, 
>worse, or the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave
>
>.


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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 16:36:59 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:36:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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It's not necessary to eat gluten-free unless you have celiac disease.
Gluten-free foods are all the rage now, and eaten by many people who, for
some reason, need to try anything new. For the people who truly need them,
they are wonderful, because until recently, gluten-free foods were like
cardboard--very unappealing. Now there are some great ones. 

But if you don't have celiac disease, you don't need them, and they will not
contribute to lowering carbs or losing weight, or any of the other things
one might hope for. 

Sandi


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David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
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To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do
"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, worse, or
the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?

Thanks!

Dave

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 16:40:47 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:40:47 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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I know there's wheat gluten because I have used it as an ingredient when
baking, but if it occurs naturally in wheat, how do they remove it for
gluten products? I know items like rice flour exist to make items, but just
curious. I did not realize it occurs naturally in wheat. I thought it was
just an additive.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:30 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

One tiny correction: Gluten occurs naturally in wheat, so it isn't added to
products such as breads, cereals, and other grain products--it's just there.
A lot of the reason it occurs in other products is because wheat is used in
those products, whether that makes any sense or not. A few other grains also
contribute gluten, so if you have celiac disease, it's important to read
labels.

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

Thanks, I figured you would know.

Dave

At 10:36 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
>Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, 
>and sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really 
>affect the carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when 
>eating
gluten-free.
>
>And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't
realize.
>Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is 
>a product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in 
>laymen's terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, 
>but it's also used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky
stuff on envelops.
>It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
>
>I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do 
>"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, 
>worse, or the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave
>
>.


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From dwmasters15 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 21:09:58 2016
From: dwmasters15 at gmail.com (Dean Masters)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 17:09:58 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
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I have been using it for about six months. My family was concerned I was 
losing too much weight. It made me feel fuller quicker When I gave my shots 
near my navel it gave me indigestion and other stomach upsets. so I just 
give the shots in my thighs and back of the arms.

Since my family thought I was losing too much weight I started snacking 
between meals but must have been overdoing it since I have gained a little 
more weight than I needed to. I also think my a1c which was taken earlier 
this week has gone up. My nurse practitioner called Wednesday morning but 
they close at noon and she does not work Thursday or Friday. But she left a 
message that my medication needs to be changed again. But I hope I can 
convince her to let me handle it another three months since I know what I 
have done wrong.

Dean


-----Original Message----- 
From: gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:22 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity

No itsa  once a week injection. There  are four needles in the box. You have
to  plan the day an time that you will inject it. It needs to be done on a
consistent basis. I have myine planned for every Tuesday. I have been doing
this for two weeks. I can say that its more effective then bidurian or
tanzium which I took both of them and had all kinds of issues from stomach
pain to other  side effects. I have not had any of the side effects
associated with trulicity.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:46 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity

I believe it's a once-a-month injection? Side effects are supposed to be
milder than those from the other drugs, but if I remember right, the one you
had trouble with was Victoza, which is in that same family. It's also
related to byetta and bydurian.

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
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m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 9:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity

Is this a pill or a shot before each meal or once a day?
Does it curve the appetite?
Like that one shot I took and got so sick. Made my heart go so fast from a
sound sleep.

Original message:
> Hello I have now been on trulicity for 2 weeks. My numbers have been
> basically cut in half. Also have lost 10 pounds in the 2 weeks. I am
> liking this .

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 21:32:50 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 14:32:50 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re get good results with trulicity
In-Reply-To: <EA113A27A3E14371B0C37D22658947A4@MastersPC>
References: <c9b29d15.c34c.49c8.b79b.035599ae7b6f@samobile.net><008901d209df$b578b730$206a2590$@gmail.com>	<022701d209ed$264486d0$72cd9470$@gmail.com>
	<EA113A27A3E14371B0C37D22658947A4@MastersPC>
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That's good to know. So how much weight have you lost. How are your a1c
levels. How long did it take  initially for it to  do the job. Do you use
any other medication along with trulicity. Just wondering.  




From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 23:36:40 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:36:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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They don't remove gluten from wheat products. You just don't eat wheat
products if you have celiac disease. Gluten-free products are made with
other grains that don't contain gluten--like rice flour and amaranth and
other grain flours. If you buy gluten to add to things you bake, it's
extracted from the grain (most probably wheat) and packaged. 

Sandi

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Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:41 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

I know there's wheat gluten because I have used it as an ingredient when
baking, but if it occurs naturally in wheat, how do they remove it for
gluten products? I know items like rice flour exist to make items, but just
curious. I did not realize it occurs naturally in wheat. I thought it was
just an additive.

Bridgit

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Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:30 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

One tiny correction: Gluten occurs naturally in wheat, so it isn't added to
products such as breads, cereals, and other grain products--it's just there.
A lot of the reason it occurs in other products is because wheat is used in
those products, whether that makes any sense or not. A few other grains also
contribute gluten, so if you have celiac disease, it's important to read
labels.

Sandi


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David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

Thanks, I figured you would know.

Dave

At 10:36 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
>Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, 
>and sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really 
>affect the carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when 
>eating
gluten-free.
>
>And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't
realize.
>Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is 
>a product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in 
>laymen's terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, 
>but it's also used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky
stuff on envelops.
>It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.
>
>Bridgit
>
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>Of David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
>
>I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do 
>"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, 
>worse, or the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave
>
>.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 23:39:22 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 18:39:22 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
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Thanks, what I thought. Very helpful.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

They don't remove gluten from wheat products. You just don't eat wheat
products if you have celiac disease. Gluten-free products are made with
other grains that don't contain gluten--like rice flour and amaranth and
other grain flours. If you buy gluten to add to things you bake, it's
extracted from the grain (most probably wheat) and packaged. 

Sandi

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Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:41 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

I know there's wheat gluten because I have used it as an ingredient when
baking, but if it occurs naturally in wheat, how do they remove it for
gluten products? I know items like rice flour exist to make items, but just
curious. I did not realize it occurs naturally in wheat. I thought it was
just an additive.

Bridgit

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Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:30 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

One tiny correction: Gluten occurs naturally in wheat, so it isn't added to
products such as breads, cereals, and other grain products--it's just there.
A lot of the reason it occurs in other products is because wheat is used in
those products, whether that makes any sense or not. A few other grains also
contribute gluten, so if you have celiac disease, it's important to read
labels.

Sandi


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David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free

Thanks, I figured you would know.

Dave

At 10:36 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
>Gluten-free products are deceiving. They don't contain any less carbs, 
>and sometimes, they have more carbs. Being gluten-free doesn't really 
>affect the carb amount. You still need to be mindful of carbs when 
>eating
gluten-free.
>
>And just a little side note. This is something I learned and didn't
realize.
>Most people think gluten has something to do with wheat, but gluten is 
>a product that basically keeps other items together, to put it in 
>laymen's terms. Sort of like glue. It's often used in wheat products, 
>but it's also used in items from pickles to canned items to the sticky
stuff on envelops.
>It's like a bonding agent, I guess you could look at it this way.
>
>Bridgit
>
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>Of David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Gluten Free
>
>I have a question, and haven't seen anything either way on this.  Do 
>"gluten-free" items have an impact on carbs, etc. Are they better, 
>worse, or the same as regular products in terms of Type 2 diabetes?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dave
>
>.


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From Classemt at aol.com  Sun Sep 11 16:51:36 2016
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:51:36 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] how to merge many emails
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How do you merge a list serve such as diabetes talk in to 1 e mail  per 
day? need step by step instructions. Angela Perone 

From princessterri76 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 18:13:50 2016
From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri Stimmel)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:13:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
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Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication, because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well, but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200, maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over 200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about? Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it. This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also, my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 19:34:14 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:34:14 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
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Terri,

Please take this for what it's worth, which is truly to provide meaningful
advice.

Diet is number one for diabetics. What we eat affects our glucose numbers
more than anything.

I'm not a fan of taking unnecessary medicines if you really don't have too.
Perhaps if you tried eating better, watching carbs and calories, you would
notice a difference without over-medicating.

Today, we want to medicate for everything when often there are non-medicine
methods for helping our health. If you truly require certain meds, then of
course, take them, but if other means can achieve your goals, that's best.

Everything you describe- glucose numbers, liver enzymes, cholesterol, etc.-
sounds like it stems from your poor diet, which affects your diabetes, which
affects your over-all health. It's a never-ending cycle.

I know changing life style is difficult. Changing perspectives on food and
activity is not easy, but once you implement changes, most often you notice
changes to your health, sometimes drastic changes, for the good. It's a
matter of choices. Yeah, changing a life style sucks, but if you need to,
you either do it or don't. It's that simple. The process is not easy and
takes time, but making the choice to make better decisions for your health
is truly as simple as doing it or not.

And you don't have to give up food. You just need to learn portion control
and moderation. And maybe you can't eat McDonald's every day or candy every
day, but you can treat yourself periodically. If you plan to eat a
carb-heavy meal for one meal, watch carbs at the other meals. Meat has no
carbs at all, so it does not affect glucose levels. If it has a sauce or
coating of some kind, likely it will have some carbs, but meat alone will
not raise glucose levels. Protein helps stabilize glucose levels, so eating
a lot of protein is good. Personally, I use turkey meat for almost
everything. My family doesn't notice a difference, but if you don't care for
it, you can stick to beef, just do lean beef.

My husband used to be a non-veggie eater too. When we had kids, he made a
point to start eating veggies to set an example. There are some veggies he
actually enjoys now. Like anything, the more you do it, the better you
accept changes. Veggies are good for many reasons, and most veggies have no
carbs, or are so low in carbs you would have to consume a ton to have it
affect your glucose levels. Trying to implement veggies in your diet would
be helpful, and eventually, I bet there would be something you would like,
or at least be able to tolerate.

Taking a medicine is not a guarantee your glucose levels will go down
without making changes elsewhere along with it, such as changing eating
habits. Food and exercise are the two keys to diabetic management. You can
take all the medicine in the world, but if you're mismanaging food and
activity, it will still affect glucose levels.

Like I said, it's not easy, but refusing to make better choices for diet,
you're not really taking complete control of your diabetes. We all struggle
with this. Don't think I'm saying all this without understanding the
struggle. And it's a process, especially in the beginning, but if you would
implement some changes into your diet, you would notice changes to your
glucose levels and general health.

Bridgit

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Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 1:14 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel <princessterri76 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts
about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication,
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on
October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well,
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200,
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should
have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about?
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that
you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be
around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it.
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also,
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From underdogmj at comcast.net  Mon Sep 12 20:06:21 2016
From: underdogmj at comcast.net (Lester Cameron)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 16:06:21 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
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hello if you don't  trust your docter time to move on to a new docter
if a nurse  to tell you some thing is wrong
no question what I would  do
I changed to docters

-----Original Message----- 
From: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts 
about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my 
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have 
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the 
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has 
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication, 
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to 
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I 
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I 
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this 
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because 
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on 
October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone 
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier 
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a 
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the 
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have 
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well, 
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200, 
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over 
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should 
have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope 
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about? 
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other 
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side 
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that 
you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood 
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the 
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C 
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like 
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the 
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be 
around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult 
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I 
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried 
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it. 
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back 
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also, 
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to 
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right 
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I 
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Mon Sep 12 21:21:39 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:21:39 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
In-Reply-To: <1CF5014DB4684466A18DEAE0B57621C0@mesmjcomputer>
References: <6C6686E1-3672-4027-A39B-6FC7E741D254@gmail.com>
	<1CF5014DB4684466A18DEAE0B57621C0@mesmjcomputer>
Message-ID: <372558306F744D1B8739E06F063D3452@mPC>

And people change doctors all the time.  When I lived in Florida, I changed 
doctors without even bothering to inform my first doctor that I was doing 
it, I didn't think she was worth the courtesy and I thought she did a couple 
of things that to me seemed quite unethical.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:06 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Lester Cameron
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting 
thoughts about medication

hello if you don't  trust your docter time to move on to a new docter
if a nurse  to tell you some thing is wrong
no question what I would  do
I changed to docters

-----Original Message----- 
From: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts
about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication,
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on
October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well,
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200,
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should
have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about?
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that
you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be
around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it.
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also,
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Sep 12 21:44:36 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:44:36 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
In-Reply-To: <1CF5014DB4684466A18DEAE0B57621C0@mesmjcomputer>
References: <6C6686E1-3672-4027-A39B-6FC7E741D254@gmail.com>
	<1CF5014DB4684466A18DEAE0B57621C0@mesmjcomputer>
Message-ID: <000301d20d3e$db494030$91dbc090$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Gary, I am always amazed at how much difference even a little exercise can
make for me. I recently found a pool I can get in and just do exercises. I'm
not a lap swimmer but just moving around even helps. A walk through a mall
or something also can help. I used to joke at the benefits of shopping on my
glucose levels. But don't ignore another possibility. Sometimes after awhile
the pancreas does start to kind of give out. So what was affective just may
not quite do the same thing now. It takes a multi-pronged approach and some
trial and error. But most important, don't beat up on Gary. It takes a bit
to figure out something that you can stick with and that will get the
results you want. None of us are perfect every day, for sure. So I sure hope
you can look at the situation more like oops, move on, and not focus on the
I'm being bad stuff. We're all doing the best we can at any given moment. So
think about your goals and see what you can do to reach them. Glad you
reached out to us here. And we're not going anywhere either. <grin>
Keep us posted.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 1:06 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Lester Cameron
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting
thoughts about medication

hello if you don't  trust your docter time to move on to a new docter
if a nurse  to tell you some thing is wrong
no question what I would  do
I changed to docters

-----Original Message----- 
From: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts

about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my 
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have 
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the 
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has 
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication, 
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to 
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I 
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I 
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this 
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because 
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on

October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone 
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier 
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a 
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the 
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have 
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well, 
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200, 
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over 
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should

have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope 
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about? 
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other 
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side 
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that

you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood 
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the 
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C 
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like 
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the 
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be

around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult 
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I 
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried 
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it. 
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back 
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also, 
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to 
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right 
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I 
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Sep 12 21:45:43 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:45:43 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
In-Reply-To: <372558306F744D1B8739E06F063D3452@mPC>
References: <6C6686E1-3672-4027-A39B-6FC7E741D254@gmail.com>	<1CF5014DB4684466A18DEAE0B57621C0@mesmjcomputer>
	<372558306F744D1B8739E06F063D3452@mPC>
Message-ID: <000501d20d3f$02fc0fe0$08f42fa0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

In the early days of diabetes, I actually went through ten endocrinologists
before I felt like I'd found one who was truly working with me. Remember,
we're the paying customer here. <grin> Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:22 PM
To: Lester Cameron; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting
thoughts about medication

And people change doctors all the time.  When I lived in Florida, I changed 
doctors without even bothering to inform my first doctor that I was doing 
it, I didn't think she was worth the courtesy and I thought she did a couple

of things that to me seemed quite unethical.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:06 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Lester Cameron
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting 
thoughts about medication

hello if you don't  trust your docter time to move on to a new docter
if a nurse  to tell you some thing is wrong
no question what I would  do
I changed to docters

-----Original Message----- 
From: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts
about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication,
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on
October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well,
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200,
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should
have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about?
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that
you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be
around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it.
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also,
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 23:40:40 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:40:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
In-Reply-To: <372558306F744D1B8739E06F063D3452@mPC>
References: <6C6686E1-3672-4027-A39B-6FC7E741D254@gmail.com>	<1CF5014DB4684466A18DEAE0B57621C0@mesmjcomputer>
	<372558306F744D1B8739E06F063D3452@mPC>
Message-ID: <004901d20d4f$12d32290$387967b0$@gmail.com>

You always hear about second opinions. Nothing wrong with seeking out other
opinions, and yes, your current doctor does not need to be notified.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:22 PM
To: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting
thoughts about medication

And people change doctors all the time.  When I lived in Florida, I changed
doctors without even bothering to inform my first doctor that I was doing
it, I didn't think she was worth the courtesy and I thought she did a couple
of things that to me seemed quite unethical.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:06 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Lester Cameron
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting
thoughts about medication

hello if you don't  trust your docter time to move on to a new docter if a
nurse  to tell you some thing is wrong no question what I would  do I
changed to docters

-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts
about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication,
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on
October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well,
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200,
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should
have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about?
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that
you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be
around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it.
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also,
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 00:15:46 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:15:46 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar,
 and wanting thoughts about medication
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Agree . 

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To: Lester Cameron <underdogmj at comcast.net>; Diabetes Talk for the Blind
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting
thoughts about medication

And people change doctors all the time.  When I lived in Florida, I changed
doctors without even bothering to inform my first doctor that I was doing
it, I didn't think she was worth the courtesy and I thought she did a couple
of things that to me seemed quite unethical.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lester Cameron via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:06 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Lester Cameron
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting
thoughts about medication

hello if you don't  trust your docter time to move on to a new docter if a
nurse  to tell you some thing is wrong no question what I would  do I
changed to docters

-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Concerns about my blood sugar, and wanting thoughts
about medication

Hello everybody,

Probably a few months back, I wrote to the list and told you all about my
situation with Met Forman. My doctor took me off of Met Forman, and I have
been doing much better health wise.

He left me on my other medication which is,Victoza. I take 1.8 units in the
morning, and I have been on this dose for a couple of years now. That has
always worked well for me.
Well, he told me that he was not going to put me on another medication,
because he didn't feel that there was anything else that was comparable to
Met Forman. I was pretty bothered by this, and really didn't like it. But I
didn't know how to talk to him about the issue.
He told me that he wanted me to take .6 units of theVictoza at night. I
really wasn't comfortable with this, because I was always told that this
medication was only taken once a day. But I figured I would try it, because
I was worried about my blood sugar. I was supposed to go back and see him on
October 18. But today I called them and told them that this Victoza alone
was not working for me, and then I wanted to see if I could get an earlier
appointment. So now I will be going into see him on October 4. I have a
nurse that comes in once a week. I told her about the situation with the
Victoza, and she didn't think I should be taking it at night either. I have
been though, and it's just not making a difference. I'm trying to eat well,
but this is a difficult thing for me. My blood sugars have been around 200,
maybe about 160, or 170, in the morning. Sometimes at night they get over
200. But dad's on a day when I realize I have eaten worse than what I should
have.
Anyway, my nurse recommended that I talk to my doctor about Januvia. I hope
this is spelled correctly, or you wobble know what I am talking about?
Anyway, do any of you take this medication? Do you have to take other
medications with it, to control your diabetes?
Are there many side effects you have noticed?

My nurse says that this medication doesn't really have too many side
effects, and that it is on my taken once a day.
I want to talk to my doctor about this. I've never been on a medication that
you only took one today. But I want something else to help me. These blood
sugar numbers have got to get lower. Last time I was at their office, the
nurse made a comment that people with diabetes usually have hired a 1C
readings.
I think my reading the last time I was there was 6.6, or something like
that. But they didn't seem bothered by it. I was. I don't want to be the
average diabetic. When I was on the Met Forman and doing well, mine would be
around 5.3, or 5.5. This is what I prefer.

I know I need to eat better than I do. But that is hard when it's difficult
for you to cook, or you can't always have someone cook for you. Plus, I
don't like a lot of vegetables. I never have. Not to mention, I have tried
turkey burger, and I think it is disgusting!

So any advice, or dogs would be very helpful. I would really appreciate it.
This is starting to affect my body again. My liver enzymes have gone back
up, and I have a fatty liver disease. So of course I don't want that. Also,
my cholesterol is up.

So I would appreciate any help possible. I will keep you all posted as to
what the doctor does when I see him on the fourth. I have to admit, right
now I am not very pleased with him. And he used to be one of my doctors I
really liked.

Thank you for reading. I hope you all have a great day.

Terri

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From princessterri76 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 23:36:02 2016
From: princessterri76 at gmail.com (Terri Stimmel)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 18:36:02 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps,
 for the iPhone
Message-ID: <E7870837-1E27-4E98-B0D9-FA055A199A53@gmail.com>

Hello everybody,

First of all, I want to thank all of you who offered me advice, and your thoughts, a couple of days ago. I do plan to respond back to you all. It just might take me some time. However, I was wondering if there was any sort of recipe app out there, that would be accessible with the iPhone, where I can find recipes for people who have diabetes? If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

Terri

Sent from my iPhone


From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Sep 15 00:05:53 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:05:53 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
Message-ID: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.  

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".  

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce




From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 15 00:54:12 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:54:12 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but 
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we 
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 00:58:36 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:58:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps,
 for the iPhone
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Message-ID: <017b01d20eec$4a702560$df507020$@gmail.com>

Hi Terri,

One website I like to use is Spark Recipes (www.sparkrecipes.com) . There is
an app, and I've been playing with it a bit. Personally I prefer using my
computer and checking on the recipes that way, but the app appears
accessible. This website lets you select a diet for diabetes, and the one
thing I don't like is that it's not terribly flexible based on your
lifestyle. But I searched for "diabetic" in the recipes section and found
lots. The reason I like accessing them on my computer rather than the phone
is that you can get a long list of nutrient amounts with the computer. It
comes out with the list of nutrients, then the list of how much of each
nutrient separately in the app.

Sandi


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Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:36 PM
To: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Cc: Terri Stimmel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps, for the
iPhone

Hello everybody,

First of all, I want to thank all of you who offered me advice, and your
thoughts, a couple of days ago. I do plan to respond back to you all. It
just might take me some time. However, I was wondering if there was any sort
of recipe app out there, that would be accessible with the iPhone, where I
can find recipes for people who have diabetes? If anyone has any ideas,
please let me know. I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

Terri

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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 15 01:18:45 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:18:45 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>
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	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>
Message-ID: <84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of 
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters 
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should 
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From joystigile at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 04:11:49 2016
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 21:11:49 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>
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Hi Mark,

Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much as
our favorite stores!

Warmly, Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 15 14:22:44 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 10:22:44 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>
	<005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8BDB191E83C648DD91404B561DAFF6A8@mPC>

I suppose.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:11 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Joy Stigile
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Hi Mark,

Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much as
our favorite stores!

Warmly, Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 14:26:04 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:26:04 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps,
 for the iPhone
In-Reply-To: <E7870837-1E27-4E98-B0D9-FA055A199A53@gmail.com>
References: <E7870837-1E27-4E98-B0D9-FA055A199A53@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b701d20f5d$1772cb60$46586220$@gmail.com>

Not sure about apps, but Google works well. I Google most my recipes. BARD
also has cookbooks specific for diabetic cooking.

Bridgit

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:36 PM
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Cc: Terri Stimmel <princessterri76 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps, for the
iPhone

Hello everybody,

First of all, I want to thank all of you who offered me advice, and your
thoughts, a couple of days ago. I do plan to respond back to you all. It
just might take me some time. However, I was wondering if there was any sort
of recipe app out there, that would be accessible with the iPhone, where I
can find recipes for people who have diabetes? If anyone has any ideas,
please let me know. I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

Terri

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 14:28:00 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:28:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>
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Mark,

Agree. You're not wrong.

Bridgit

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Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 14:38:49 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:38:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>	<84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>
	<005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>
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But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer approve
certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation in
costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, nothing
is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, and
yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
profit's sake.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Hi Mark,

Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much as
our favorite stores!

Warmly, Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 15 14:50:40 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 10:50:40 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
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References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>
	<00b801d20f5d$5cfb6480$16f22d80$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6A8C4ACF20D241DDB6E09AAFBCA309B4@mPC>

Thank you.  Obviously a business is there to make a proffit.  But it does 
often seem that big insurance giants put that above everything else, whether 
we're talking about car insurance, certainly medical insurance, etc.  It 
somehow seems more exploitative and less humane when we are talking about 
medical issues.  It's somehow different than your local supermarket or 
hardware store or computer repair business.  It's hard to explain, but I 
don't think it's an accident that people hate dealing with medical insurance 
companies.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:28 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Mark,

Agree. You're not wrong.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 15:02:20 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 10:02:20 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <6A8C4ACF20D241DDB6E09AAFBCA309B4@mPC>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>	<00b801d20f5d$5cfb6480$16f22d80$@gmail.com>
	<6A8C4ACF20D241DDB6E09AAFBCA309B4@mPC>
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Many other countries do not sale medications at the costs we do. Other
countries are amazed at how much medications can cost in America and the
struggle with insurance companies. I'm not saying it's across the board, but
a good number of other countries don't have quite the same issue with drug
and insurance companies we do.

Sorry to wax political on this issue.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:51 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Thank you.  Obviously a business is there to make a proffit.  But it does
often seem that big insurance giants put that above everything else, whether
we're talking about car insurance, certainly medical insurance, etc.  It
somehow seems more exploitative and less humane when we are talking about
medical issues.  It's somehow different than your local supermarket or
hardware store or computer repair business.  It's hard to explain, but I
don't think it's an accident that people hate dealing with medical insurance
companies.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:28 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Mark,

Agree. You're not wrong.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From daniel7047 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 15:20:32 2016
From: daniel7047 at yahoo.com (daniel strube)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:20:32 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] the pump
Message-ID: <3807CEA815FD418EB80F2EEBC85425D1@LAPTOPC3KN71OO>



From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Sep 15 16:02:34 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:02:34 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] for Medtronic Pump users
Message-ID: <008601d20f6a$93219f90$b964deb0$@aol.com>

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?


Now I thought it makes a sound, but how does it know if your sugar is low?
If the only way is by actually testing your blood sugar and entering in the
numbers, if I could do that then I wouldn't need it to make a noise.

Joyce




From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 15 16:13:24 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:13:24 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
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References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>	<00b801d20f5d$5cfb6480$16f22d80$@gmail.com><6A8C4ACF20D241DDB6E09AAFBCA309B4@mPC>
	<00f401d20f62$28e2ce90$7aa86bb0$@gmail.com>
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But you are so right about that.



Mark Tardif
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:02 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Many other countries do not sale medications at the costs we do. Other
countries are amazed at how much medications can cost in America and the
struggle with insurance companies. I'm not saying it's across the board, but
a good number of other countries don't have quite the same issue with drug
and insurance companies we do.

Sorry to wax political on this issue.

Bridgit

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Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:51 AM
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Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
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Thank you.  Obviously a business is there to make a proffit.  But it does
often seem that big insurance giants put that above everything else, whether
we're talking about car insurance, certainly medical insurance, etc.  It
somehow seems more exploitative and less humane when we are talking about
medical issues.  It's somehow different than your local supermarket or
hardware store or computer repair business.  It's hard to explain, but I
don't think it's an accident that people hate dealing with medical insurance
companies.



Mark Tardif
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:28 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Mark,

Agree. You're not wrong.

Bridgit

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:19 PM
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Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 15 16:20:35 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:20:35 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>	<84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC><005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>
	<00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <576487CF524B425B93C15139DD7E8051@mPC>

Yes, the pharmacuticals did get a free pass with this health care law. 
Unfortunately, we were lucky to get what we got considering the huge 
resistance by certain groups who shall remain nameless.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer approve
certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation in
costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, nothing
is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, and
yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
profit's sake.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Hi Mark,

Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much as
our favorite stores!

Warmly, Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 16:22:13 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:22:13 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] for Medtronic Pump users
In-Reply-To: <008601d20f6a$93219f90$b964deb0$@aol.com>
References: <008601d20f6a$93219f90$b964deb0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <011301d20f6d$51c1e840$f545b8c0$@gmail.com>

The regular Medtronic pump does not have this function since glucose
readings are not being fed into it. The Medtronic plus CGM does because the
CGM feeds glucose readings, alerting the pump when sugars are low and can
then turn itself off.

If you need this feature, the regular pump will not work for you. Unless
things have changed since the last time I looked at Medtronic pumps, then a
regular Medtronic pump without CGM feature does not have feature to turn on
and off.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:03 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] for Medtronic Pump users

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?


Now I thought it makes a sound, but how does it know if your sugar is low?
If the only way is by actually testing your blood sugar and entering in the
numbers, if I could do that then I wouldn't need it to make a noise.

Joyce


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 16:22:43 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:22:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <576487CF524B425B93C15139DD7E8051@mPC>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>	<84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC><005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>	<00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>
	<576487CF524B425B93C15139DD7E8051@mPC>
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True

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Yes, the pharmacuticals did get a free pass with this health care law. 
Unfortunately, we were lucky to get what we got considering the huge
resistance by certain groups who shall remain nameless.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:38 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer approve
certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation in
costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, nothing
is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, and
yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
profit's sake.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Hi Mark,

Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much as
our favorite stores!

Warmly, Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters
get to make that final decision about your medical treatment, which should
be between you and your doctor.  Just my angry opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:54 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I'm in an angry mood tonight, so keep that in mind when I say this, but
these insurance goliaths really piss me off at times, they don't care if we
die!



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Just thought I would let you folks know that I received the almost, "Final
rejection" for the CGM that would go with the Medtronic's pump 530 G.  I was
told it could be brought in front of a judge for a final "No", but the
insurance company has the right to deny this due to Medicare not covering
it.  I was told that I can reapply for just the CGM if and when Medicare
approves the use of the CGM.

I really don't understand that when I started out looking into using a pump,
I was told that the insurance would not pay for the Medtronic 530 G unit.
That is the one that has the sensors and turn off if your blood sugars get
too low.

I was told within the last month United Health approved the Medtronic 530 G
for me to get.  So I thought it was looking better for the CGM.  They called
me last week and told me "No".

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?

The salesman has not gotten answers to my questions and I am sitting here in
the dark feeling like I did when I went blind and I am giving the control of
my diabetes to someone else.  It took 2 years for me to learn how a blind
diabetic can take care of themselves independtly as the doctors I went to,
didn't have any ideas.

I have an appointment with the indocrinologist in October and I think we
need to talk about all of this.

Joyce


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From walemly at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 19:37:03 2016
From: walemly at gmail.com (Alan Lemly)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:37:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps,
 for the iPhone
In-Reply-To: <00b701d20f5d$1772cb60$46586220$@gmail.com>
References: <E7870837-1E27-4E98-B0D9-FA055A199A53@gmail.com>
	<00b701d20f5d$1772cb60$46586220$@gmail.com>
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I really like the Paprika Recipe Manager app for managing recipes on my
iPhone. It does cost at $4.99 but I thought it was well worth it. You can
read about it here:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:26 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps, for
the iPhone

Not sure about apps, but Google works well. I Google most my recipes. BARD
also has cookbooks specific for diabetic cooking.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:36 PM
To: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Terri Stimmel <princessterri76 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps, for the
iPhone

Hello everybody,

First of all, I want to thank all of you who offered me advice, and your
thoughts, a couple of days ago. I do plan to respond back to you all. It
just might take me some time. However, I was wondering if there was any sort
of recipe app out there, that would be accessible with the iPhone, where I
can find recipes for people who have diabetes? If anyone has any ideas,
please let me know. I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

Terri

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 20:55:39 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:55:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got my blood work and a bit disappointed
 with my diabetes
Message-ID: <000401d20f93$84c33340$8e4999c0$@gmail.com>

Hello just got my blood work. I am a bit disappointed. The endocrinologist
said that my triglicerent  levels arehight and my a1c is 9.1. I would like
ot know what oto do. I don't eat a lot of carbs. Iso Iwhat am I doing
wrong.so I can at least get my a1c in the or under the 7.  



From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Sep 15 21:16:53 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:16:53 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com>
	<098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC>
	<84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC>
	<005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com>
	<00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A2FD46D1-7F6F-4902-A8C1-548906F0F694@panix.com>

It's all about profit. Morals never enters into the situation. And in other countries, guess who pays; everyone pays via a government tax. People don't want to do that in this country. also, you should understand that this is what it means to be a minority i.e. a blind person in this country.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:38, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
> priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
> drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
> wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer approve
> certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
> leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
> are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation in
> costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
> diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, nothing
> is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, and
> yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
> profit's sake.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much as
> our favorite stores!
> 
> Warmly, Joy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
> 
> I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose of
> insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters




From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 21:23:40 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:23:40 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps,
 for the iPhone
In-Reply-To: <00b701d20f5d$1772cb60$46586220$@gmail.com>
References: <E7870837-1E27-4E98-B0D9-FA055A199A53@gmail.com>
	<00b701d20f5d$1772cb60$46586220$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04cd01d20f97$6fa8fdb0$4efaf910$@gmail.com>

Bookshare has cookbooks, too, and books on dealing with diabetes. And I
suspect you could look on the Internet at allrecipes.com and you might find
recipes that fit a diabetic diet (whatever that is). I don't use apps for
this kind of thing much, but I cook almost entirely from electronic recipes.
They're so much easier to store than books!

Last week I tried out an app called "Yes Chef," and it looks like many of
its recipes could work. It's kind of nifty, because once you turn it on, it
gives you step-by-step directions at your own speed. You might like to try
it. 

Sandi
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:26 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps, for
the iPhone

Not sure about apps, but Google works well. I Google most my recipes. BARD
also has cookbooks specific for diabetic cooking.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:36 PM
To: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Terri Stimmel <princessterri76 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Was wondering about accessible recipe apps, for the
iPhone

Hello everybody,

First of all, I want to thank all of you who offered me advice, and your
thoughts, a couple of days ago. I do plan to respond back to you all. It
just might take me some time. However, I was wondering if there was any sort
of recipe app out there, that would be accessible with the iPhone, where I
can find recipes for people who have diabetes? If anyone has any ideas,
please let me know. I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

Terri

Sent from my iPhone
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From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Sep 15 21:27:16 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:27:16 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps
Message-ID: <02DC1642-0849-46F5-841F-ED7639262925@panix.com>

I like FastFood, FastFoodCal and GoMeals!

Mike Freeman




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 21:53:48 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps
In-Reply-To: <02DC1642-0849-46F5-841F-ED7639262925@panix.com>
References: <02DC1642-0849-46F5-841F-ED7639262925@panix.com>
Message-ID: <025401d20f9b$a402a530$ec07ef90$@gmail.com>

LOL!

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:27 PM
To: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps

I like FastFood, FastFoodCal and GoMeals!

Mike Freeman


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 21:54:29 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:54:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps
In-Reply-To: <02DC1642-0849-46F5-841F-ED7639262925@panix.com>
References: <02DC1642-0849-46F5-841F-ED7639262925@panix.com>
Message-ID: <025501d20f9b$bc23dc60$346b9520$@gmail.com>

Are these real sites/apps or a joke?

-----Original Message-----
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Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:27 PM
To: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps

I like FastFood, FastFoodCal and GoMeals!

Mike Freeman


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From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Sep 15 22:34:57 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps
In-Reply-To: <025501d20f9b$bc23dc60$346b9520$@gmail.com>
References: <02DC1642-0849-46F5-841F-ED7639262925@panix.com>
	<025501d20f9b$bc23dc60$346b9520$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95E04CC2-395A-40FC-8897-EFCFE9A5EB9C@panix.com>

They are real. Look them up in the App Store.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 14:54, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Are these real sites/apps or a joke?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:27 PM
> To: Terri Stimmel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Food Apps
> 
> I like FastFood, FastFoodCal and GoMeals!
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 23:14:21 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 18:14:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got my blood work and a bit
 disappointed with my diabetes
In-Reply-To: <000401d20f93$84c33340$8e4999c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000401d20f93$84c33340$8e4999c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <053001d20fa6$e50c1dd0$af245970$@gmail.com>

Hi Gary,

While many of us can give you tips about how to work toward a lower A1C,
probably the best way to proceed would be to ask your endocrinologist to
refer you to a Certified Diabetes Educator/Registered Dietitian. He or she
can work with you to find the best way for you to eat. They can analyze what
you are now eating and work with you to modify what and how you eat to lower
your A1C. 

Lots of times rather amazing change comes from making small adjustments. You
are obviously motivated to work on this--getting help from an expert can be
the step you need to take.

I hope this helps.

Sandi

-----Original Message-----
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gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got my blood work and a bit disappointed
with my diabetes

Hello just got my blood work. I am a bit disappointed. The endocrinologist
said that my triglicerent  levels arehight and my a1c is 9.1. I would like
ot know what oto do. I don't eat a lot of carbs. Iso Iwhat am I doing
wrong.so I can at least get my a1c in the or under the 7.  

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 00:25:00 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:25:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got my blood work and a bit
 disappointed with my diabetes
In-Reply-To: <053001d20fa6$e50c1dd0$af245970$@gmail.com>
References: <000401d20f93$84c33340$8e4999c0$@gmail.com>
	<053001d20fa6$e50c1dd0$af245970$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01d20fb0$c3034d80$4909e880$@gmail.com>

Gary,

Stress can also impede our ability to lower glucose levels. As difficult as
it is, try to not stress out about it. Just do what you need, follow your
endocrine and don't stress too much. Though I know it's easier said than
done.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:14 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got my blood work and a bit
disappointed with my diabetes

Hi Gary,

While many of us can give you tips about how to work toward a lower A1C,
probably the best way to proceed would be to ask your endocrinologist to
refer you to a Certified Diabetes Educator/Registered Dietitian. He or she
can work with you to find the best way for you to eat. They can analyze what
you are now eating and work with you to modify what and how you eat to lower
your A1C. 

Lots of times rather amazing change comes from making small adjustments. You
are obviously motivated to work on this--getting help from an expert can be
the step you need to take.

I hope this helps.

Sandi

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got my blood work and a bit disappointed
with my diabetes

Hello just got my blood work. I am a bit disappointed. The endocrinologist
said that my triglicerent  levels arehight and my a1c is 9.1. I would like
ot know what oto do. I don't eat a lot of carbs. Iso Iwhat am I doing
wrong.so I can at least get my a1c in the or under the 7.  

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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Fri Sep 16 03:40:59 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:40:59 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <A2FD46D1-7F6F-4902-A8C1-548906F0F694@panix.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com><098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC><005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com><00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>
	<A2FD46D1-7F6F-4902-A8C1-548906F0F694@panix.com>
Message-ID: <111E8892E94945E5991E71289A56C363@mPC>

Those are some unpalitable truths, but unfortunately they are indeed true.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

It's all about profit. Morals never enters into the situation. And in other 
countries, guess who pays; everyone pays via a government tax. People don't 
want to do that in this country. also, you should understand that this is 
what it means to be a minority i.e. a blind person in this country.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:38, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
> priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
> drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
> wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer 
> approve
> certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
> leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
> are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation 
> in
> costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
> diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, 
> nothing
> is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, 
> and
> yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
> profit's sake.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much 
> as
> our favorite stores!
>
> Warmly, Joy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose 
> of
> insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Sep 17 22:24:59 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:24:59 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <111E8892E94945E5991E71289A56C363@mPC>
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I think we chase after the small victories where we find them and keep
working. Truth doesn't mean give up! <grin> I just finished a big fight with
Blue Shield because they've suddenly decided that all diabetics will happily
used one of three Accuchek meters. That clearly wasn't me. I called and
began one of many long discussions, working my way up the food chain. By the
time I'd reached pretty high up, I was rather worked up, shall we say? I
pointed out that I had no intention of 
Sacrificing my health just because they'd made a sweetheart deal with
another company. Would you believe, they actually tried to tell me that I
could continue to use my meter of choice but just had to use the AccuChek
strips? After I finished laughing I pointed out how little they knew about
the things they were controlling, which meant that they didn't deserve this
bonus or profit. I finally told them that either they were going to
authorize my meter or I'd contact the state insurance commissioner and I'd
go to the media and expose this practice of denying accessible meters to
people who are blind. Fortunately, within five minutes, I had a permanent
authorization on file. Now, granted, it doesn't always work this way. <grin>
But at least it did this time.
But when I decide how to respond to any given denial, I mean situation, I
start by reminding myself this is about what they'll pay for, not what I'm
entitled to. The next step is the discussion with my doc or someone to begin
to strategize. I try my best to figure out how to end up with something
other than, stuck! Hopeless! I can't have, fill in the blank. Clearly we
can't always just pay for something out of pocket because insurance
companies are greedy. But at least it's worth being as creative as we can be
in searching for allies. Sometimes there's no getting away from major
disappointment, but this is how I keep myself from landing in the perverbial
gutter. At least here we know that most everyone on this list is going
through similar things so it doesn't have to feel so personal, if you know
what I mean.
As for cost, frankly, I really wish they had never allowed TV advertising of
drugs here. From my business, boy do I know how much those commercials cost,
between making them and paying for air time. They'd have so much more R and
D money as well as pure profit if they'd quit doing that. And these days, so
many of those drugs are just so incredibly specific, my doc should be
telling me about them, not the other way around. It's like many in the
medical profession have just obficated their responsibility, either having
the patients coming in and dictating the treatment or dishing out whatever
the latest drug rep brought in. Time for some cultural changes, in my
opinion. 
And yes, on some days I do just get angry, cuss and fuss and carry on about
things. But sometimes I just have to hang out in that place before the
creative ideas show up.
So hang in there, everyone and thanks for the company.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Those are some unpalitable truths, but unfortunately they are indeed true.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

It's all about profit. Morals never enters into the situation. And in other 
countries, guess who pays; everyone pays via a government tax. People don't 
want to do that in this country. also, you should understand that this is 
what it means to be a minority i.e. a blind person in this country.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:38, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
> priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
> drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
> wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer 
> approve
> certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
> leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
> are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation 
> in
> costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
> diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, 
> nothing
> is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, 
> and
> yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
> profit's sake.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much 
> as
> our favorite stores!
>
> Warmly, Joy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose 
> of
> insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Sep 17 22:28:33 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 15:28:33 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] for Medtronic Pump users
In-Reply-To: <011301d20f6d$51c1e840$f545b8c0$@gmail.com>
References: <008601d20f6a$93219f90$b964deb0$@aol.com>
	<011301d20f6d$51c1e840$f545b8c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601d21132$d34ad720$79e08560$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

You're right, Bridgit. It's the CGM which issues low blood sugar alarms, not
the pump. The only thing the pump can do is to deliver insulin in accordance
with how you've set it up. Now, for me, once I went on the pump, I used much
less insulin and with no long-acting insulin staying in my system no matter
what, I stopped swinging so low or high. So from that stand point, you may
be able to achieve much better or more consistent control. But to get
alarms, you definitely need the CGM. Sorry to be the joint bearer of not so
wonderful news. But keep at it!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:22 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] for Medtronic Pump users

The regular Medtronic pump does not have this function since glucose
readings are not being fed into it. The Medtronic plus CGM does because the
CGM feeds glucose readings, alerting the pump when sugars are low and can
then turn itself off.

If you need this feature, the regular pump will not work for you. Unless
things have changed since the last time I looked at Medtronic pumps, then a
regular Medtronic pump without CGM feature does not have feature to turn on
and off.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:03 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] for Medtronic Pump users

For those of you who are using Medtronics can you tell me if the low blood
sugar warning noise is loud?  Can you adjust the sound?


Now I thought it makes a sound, but how does it know if your sugar is low?
If the only way is by actually testing your blood sugar and entering in the
numbers, if I could do that then I wouldn't need it to make a noise.

Joyce


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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Sat Sep 17 22:41:25 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 18:41:25 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <004401d21132$53780fe0$fa682fa0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com><098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC><005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com><00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>	<A2FD46D1-7F6F-4902-A8C1-548906F0F694@panix.com><111E8892E94945E5991E71289A56C363@mPC>
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I am so glad you persisted, and this time, you won!!!  And sometimes you 
can.  I know of at least one instance in my life when an insurance company 
wouldn't pay for something, and in my case, the doctor got disgusted with 
them and wrote a note, and I sent my own little note with it, and it worked.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 6:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I think we chase after the small victories where we find them and keep
working. Truth doesn't mean give up! <grin> I just finished a big fight with
Blue Shield because they've suddenly decided that all diabetics will happily
used one of three Accuchek meters. That clearly wasn't me. I called and
began one of many long discussions, working my way up the food chain. By the
time I'd reached pretty high up, I was rather worked up, shall we say? I
pointed out that I had no intention of
Sacrificing my health just because they'd made a sweetheart deal with
another company. Would you believe, they actually tried to tell me that I
could continue to use my meter of choice but just had to use the AccuChek
strips? After I finished laughing I pointed out how little they knew about
the things they were controlling, which meant that they didn't deserve this
bonus or profit. I finally told them that either they were going to
authorize my meter or I'd contact the state insurance commissioner and I'd
go to the media and expose this practice of denying accessible meters to
people who are blind. Fortunately, within five minutes, I had a permanent
authorization on file. Now, granted, it doesn't always work this way. <grin>
But at least it did this time.
But when I decide how to respond to any given denial, I mean situation, I
start by reminding myself this is about what they'll pay for, not what I'm
entitled to. The next step is the discussion with my doc or someone to begin
to strategize. I try my best to figure out how to end up with something
other than, stuck! Hopeless! I can't have, fill in the blank. Clearly we
can't always just pay for something out of pocket because insurance
companies are greedy. But at least it's worth being as creative as we can be
in searching for allies. Sometimes there's no getting away from major
disappointment, but this is how I keep myself from landing in the perverbial
gutter. At least here we know that most everyone on this list is going
through similar things so it doesn't have to feel so personal, if you know
what I mean.
As for cost, frankly, I really wish they had never allowed TV advertising of
drugs here. From my business, boy do I know how much those commercials cost,
between making them and paying for air time. They'd have so much more R and
D money as well as pure profit if they'd quit doing that. And these days, so
many of those drugs are just so incredibly specific, my doc should be
telling me about them, not the other way around. It's like many in the
medical profession have just obficated their responsibility, either having
the patients coming in and dictating the treatment or dishing out whatever
the latest drug rep brought in. Time for some cultural changes, in my
opinion.
And yes, on some days I do just get angry, cuss and fuss and carry on about
things. But sometimes I just have to hang out in that place before the
creative ideas show up.
So hang in there, everyone and thanks for the company.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Those are some unpalitable truths, but unfortunately they are indeed true.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

It's all about profit. Morals never enters into the situation. And in other
countries, guess who pays; everyone pays via a government tax. People don't
want to do that in this country. also, you should understand that this is
what it means to be a minority i.e. a blind person in this country.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:38, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
> priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
> drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
> wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer
> approve
> certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
> leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
> are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation
> in
> costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
> diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now,
> nothing
> is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating,
> and
> yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
> profit's sake.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much
> as
> our favorite stores!
>
> Warmly, Joy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose
> of
> insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters


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From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 01:00:26 2016
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (Robert Shelton)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:00:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <004401d21132$53780fe0$fa682fa0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <025e01d20ee4$ed74c1b0$c85e4510$@aol.com><098948B3C25D4D7790B65C7891139B5E@mPC><84F6C8A4895047D88BAA7D965D4F03A9@mPC><005f01d20f07$48c455e0$da4d01a0$@gmail.com><00d001d20f5e$dfbec690$9f3c53b0$@gmail.com>	<A2FD46D1-7F6F-4902-A8C1-548906F0F694@panix.com>
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Good for you. Sometimes the things people have to endure just to get decent
medical care are enough to make a person sick. I'm glad you won this time.
You just demonstrated Thud's Law: "If you push hard enough, it'll fall
over."

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 5:25 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I think we chase after the small victories where we find them and keep
working. Truth doesn't mean give up! <grin> I just finished a big fight with
Blue Shield because they've suddenly decided that all diabetics will happily
used one of three Accuchek meters. That clearly wasn't me. I called and
began one of many long discussions, working my way up the food chain. By the
time I'd reached pretty high up, I was rather worked up, shall we say? I
pointed out that I had no intention of 
Sacrificing my health just because they'd made a sweetheart deal with
another company. Would you believe, they actually tried to tell me that I
could continue to use my meter of choice but just had to use the AccuChek
strips? After I finished laughing I pointed out how little they knew about
the things they were controlling, which meant that they didn't deserve this
bonus or profit. I finally told them that either they were going to
authorize my meter or I'd contact the state insurance commissioner and I'd
go to the media and expose this practice of denying accessible meters to
people who are blind. Fortunately, within five minutes, I had a permanent
authorization on file. Now, granted, it doesn't always work this way. <grin>
But at least it did this time.
But when I decide how to respond to any given denial, I mean situation, I
start by reminding myself this is about what they'll pay for, not what I'm
entitled to. The next step is the discussion with my doc or someone to begin
to strategize. I try my best to figure out how to end up with something
other than, stuck! Hopeless! I can't have, fill in the blank. Clearly we
can't always just pay for something out of pocket because insurance
companies are greedy. But at least it's worth being as creative as we can be
in searching for allies. Sometimes there's no getting away from major
disappointment, but this is how I keep myself from landing in the perverbial
gutter. At least here we know that most everyone on this list is going
through similar things so it doesn't have to feel so personal, if you know
what I mean.
As for cost, frankly, I really wish they had never allowed TV advertising of
drugs here. From my business, boy do I know how much those commercials cost,
between making them and paying for air time. They'd have so much more R and
D money as well as pure profit if they'd quit doing that. And these days, so
many of those drugs are just so incredibly specific, my doc should be
telling me about them, not the other way around. It's like many in the
medical profession have just obficated their responsibility, either having
the patients coming in and dictating the treatment or dishing out whatever
the latest drug rep brought in. Time for some cultural changes, in my
opinion. 
And yes, on some days I do just get angry, cuss and fuss and carry on about
things. But sometimes I just have to hang out in that place before the
creative ideas show up.
So hang in there, everyone and thanks for the company.
Veronica

"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Those are some unpalitable truths, but unfortunately they are indeed true.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

It's all about profit. Morals never enters into the situation. And in other 
countries, guess who pays; everyone pays via a government tax. People don't 
want to do that in this country. also, you should understand that this is 
what it means to be a minority i.e. a blind person in this country.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:38, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
> priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
> drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
> wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer 
> approve
> certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
> leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
> are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation 
> in
> costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
> diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, 
> nothing
> is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, 
> and
> yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
> profit's sake.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much 
> as
> our favorite stores!
>
> Warmly, Joy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose 
> of
> insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Sep 18 20:09:46 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:09:46 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
In-Reply-To: <004901d21148$0b389220$21a9b660$@gmail.com>
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Thud's law, I like that one. Just may have to use that soon. Thanks for the
smile.
Veronica


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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 6:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Robert Shelton
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Good for you. Sometimes the things people have to endure just to get decent
medical care are enough to make a person sick. I'm glad you won this time.
You just demonstrated Thud's Law: "If you push hard enough, it'll fall
over."

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 5:25 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

I think we chase after the small victories where we find them and keep
working. Truth doesn't mean give up! <grin> I just finished a big fight with
Blue Shield because they've suddenly decided that all diabetics will happily
used one of three Accuchek meters. That clearly wasn't me. I called and
began one of many long discussions, working my way up the food chain. By the
time I'd reached pretty high up, I was rather worked up, shall we say? I
pointed out that I had no intention of 
Sacrificing my health just because they'd made a sweetheart deal with
another company. Would you believe, they actually tried to tell me that I
could continue to use my meter of choice but just had to use the AccuChek
strips? After I finished laughing I pointed out how little they knew about
the things they were controlling, which meant that they didn't deserve this
bonus or profit. I finally told them that either they were going to
authorize my meter or I'd contact the state insurance commissioner and I'd
go to the media and expose this practice of denying accessible meters to
people who are blind. Fortunately, within five minutes, I had a permanent
authorization on file. Now, granted, it doesn't always work this way. <grin>
But at least it did this time.
But when I decide how to respond to any given denial, I mean situation, I
start by reminding myself this is about what they'll pay for, not what I'm
entitled to. The next step is the discussion with my doc or someone to begin
to strategize. I try my best to figure out how to end up with something
other than, stuck! Hopeless! I can't have, fill in the blank. Clearly we
can't always just pay for something out of pocket because insurance
companies are greedy. But at least it's worth being as creative as we can be
in searching for allies. Sometimes there's no getting away from major
disappointment, but this is how I keep myself from landing in the perverbial
gutter. At least here we know that most everyone on this list is going
through similar things so it doesn't have to feel so personal, if you know
what I mean.
As for cost, frankly, I really wish they had never allowed TV advertising of
drugs here. From my business, boy do I know how much those commercials cost,
between making them and paying for air time. They'd have so much more R and
D money as well as pure profit if they'd quit doing that. And these days, so
many of those drugs are just so incredibly specific, my doc should be
telling me about them, not the other way around. It's like many in the
medical profession have just obficated their responsibility, either having
the patients coming in and dictating the treatment or dishing out whatever
the latest drug rep brought in. Time for some cultural changes, in my
opinion. 
And yes, on some days I do just get angry, cuss and fuss and carry on about
things. But sometimes I just have to hang out in that place before the
creative ideas show up.
So hang in there, everyone and thanks for the company.
Veronica

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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mark Tardif
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

Those are some unpalitable truths, but unfortunately they are indeed true.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!

It's all about profit. Morals never enters into the situation. And in other 
countries, guess who pays; everyone pays via a government tax. People don't 
want to do that in this country. also, you should understand that this is 
what it means to be a minority i.e. a blind person in this country.

Mike Freeman


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 07:38, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> But when it comes to drugs and medical treatment, profit shouldn't be the
> priority. A patients health should be the priority. In this country, many
> drug costs have gone up 200% all the way up to 500% just because a company
> wants to make money. Many are finding that insurance will no longer 
> approve
> certain medications because of this, or will only pay a small percentage,
> leaving individuals to pay heavily out of pocket. Test strips and insulin
> are two medications that have seen an increase as much as 200% inflation 
> in
> costs, and all so a company can make a profit. It's hurting a lot of
> diabetics. This is a growing problem in this country, and as of now, 
> nothing
> is being done about it. Everything our government insist on regulating, 
> and
> yet these companies are allowed to rack up cost, hurting patients, all for
> profit's sake.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Just remember an insurance company is there to make a profit just as much 
> as
> our favorite stores!
>
> Warmly, Joy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Final "No"!
>
> I'm sorry for my last post, but it really does bother me that the purpose 
> of
> insurance companies seems to be to deny, deny, deny, and the bean counters


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 19:51:49 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:51:49 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial
 basis
Message-ID: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>

Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom g5
cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get a better
idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to se how well
the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it does work , the
hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company why I need the
device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need be I will have to fund
it out of pocket that will be an additional expense. But is easier to do
then priking fingers  every hour of the day. As the endo wanted me to  take
4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom g5 I
hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  week. I don't
know but wanting to get more understanding about it.  



From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 29 20:15:30 2016
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:15:30 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom g5
> cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get a better
> idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to se how well
> the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it does work , the
> hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company why I need the
> device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need be I will have to fund
> it out of pocket that will be an additional expense. But is easier to do
> then priking fingers  every hour of the day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom g5 I
> hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  week. I don't
> know but wanting to get more understanding about it.  
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Sep 29 20:17:39 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:17:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
In-Reply-To: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>
References: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01d21a8e$86d10850$947318f0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Gary, you have to calibrate at least twice a day. You will still need to do
those four finger sticks but you'll have more information in between those
sticks. I hope your one-week trial goes well.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial
basis

Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom g5
cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get a better
idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to se how well
the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it does work , the
hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company why I need the
device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need be I will have to fund
it out of pocket that will be an additional expense. But is easier to do
then priking fingers  every hour of the day. As the endo wanted me to  take
4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom g5 I
hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  week. I don't
know but wanting to get more understanding about it.  

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Sep 29 20:38:50 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:38:50 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>
	<DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom g5
> cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get a better
> idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to se how well
> the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it does work , the
> hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company why I need the
> device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need be I will have to fund
> it out of pocket that will be an additional expense. But is easier to do
> then priking fingers  every hour of the day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom g5 I
> hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  week. I don't
> know but wanting to get more understanding about it.  
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 21:04:23 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:04:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
In-Reply-To: <000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>	<DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000601d21a95$0e9a05b0$2bce1110$@gmail.com>

I was reding up on the dexcom.the insturctions say califoarate  every 12 hours once .so I don?t know what is he best ideal settings. Whats the point of caliberatin more then once if your goals is to get an idea of the graph as it relates ot the glucose controls. Sorry I a being a bit pesimestic on the outlook of he matter.  But having had this disease for 12 years now, things haven ot change and are not going to change for ethe better. The only thin gi can control from getting worse and taking over my life. Thast the only thing I can do abouthe matter. Control the diseas and not lethe disease control my life.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom 
> g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get 
> a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to 
> se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it 
> does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company 
> why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need 
> be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional 
> expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the 
> day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom 
> g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  
> week. I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.
> 
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Sep 29 21:34:51 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:34:51 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
Message-ID: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I just ran across this today and thought of some of you, especially you, Joyce. 
I was reading through the September newsletter for TCOYD, which stands for Taking Control of Your Diabetes. It seems that TCOYD has received some grant money to cover the cost of a CGM for those who are low income, have hypoglycemia unawareness and have been denied a CGM coverage under MediCare or Medicaid. 
Here is the link to see if you qualify and to fill out an application.
https://tcoyd.org/resources/cgm.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=27577885&utm_campaign=September%20E-Update%20from%20TCOYD

This is a great group and I really hope someone on this list can benefit.
Veronica





From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 21:53:27 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:53:27 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Thanks for info. If my trial goeswell. I would mos likely make use of this
information. 

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Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I just ran across this today and thought of some of you, especially you,
Joyce. 
I was reading through the September newsletter for TCOYD, which stands for
Taking Control of Your Diabetes. It seems that TCOYD has received some grant
money to cover the cost of a CGM for those who are low income, have
hypoglycemia unawareness and have been denied a CGM coverage under MediCare
or Medicaid. 
Here is the link to see if you qualify and to fill out an application.
https://tcoyd.org/resources/cgm.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&
utm_content=27577885&utm_campaign=September%20E-Update%20from%20TCOYD

This is a great group and I really hope someone on this list can benefit.
Veronica



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 22:11:00 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:11:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>
	<DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <01fb01d21a9e$5d0836a0$1718a3e0$@gmail.com>

I'm not using it yet, but my endo says the Dexcum is the only CGM that has FDA approval for accuracy. He believes it's comparable to the accuracy of meters. I say this for what it's worth.

But my understanding is that you still have to test throughout the day. And just saying, 4 times is not much. I test 6 to 8, sometimes more. If new to testing, your fingers need time to adjust, but 4 is not much at all, and likely expected with a CGM.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:16 PM
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Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom 
> g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get 
> a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to 
> se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it 
> does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company 
> why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need 
> be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional 
> expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the 
> day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom 
> g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  
> week. I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 22:12:09 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:12:09 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
In-Reply-To: <000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>	<DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <01fc01d21a9e$85da0ae0$918e20a0$@gmail.com>

Oh great, I want one but am a swimmer too, smile.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom 
> g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get 
> a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to 
> se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it 
> does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company 
> why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need 
> be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional 
> expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the 
> day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom 
> g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a  
> week. I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 22:14:05 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:14:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
In-Reply-To: <000601d21a95$0e9a05b0$2bce1110$@gmail.com>
References: <00ae01d21a8a$ebcc4ed0$c364ec70$@gmail.com>	<DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>	<000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<000601d21a95$0e9a05b0$2bce1110$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01fd01d21a9e$cb5a66a0$620f33e0$@gmail.com>

Are you type one?

So much goes into glucose control. Exercise, diet, frequent testing, etc. It can take trial and error to figure out the right combo for you, but usually frequent testing is key.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I was reding up on the dexcom.the insturctions say califoarate  every 12 hours once .so I don?t know what is he best ideal settings. Whats the point of caliberatin more then once if your goals is to get an idea of the graph as it relates ot the glucose controls. Sorry I a being a bit pesimestic on the outlook of he matter.  But having had this disease for 12 years now, things haven ot change and are not going to change for ethe better. The only thin gi can control from getting worse and taking over my life. Thast the only thing I can do abouthe matter. Control the diseas and not lethe disease control my life.   

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ed worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom
> g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get 
> a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to 
> se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it 
> does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company 
> why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need 
> be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional 
> expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the 
> day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom
> g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a week. 
> I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 22:15:31 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:15:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <01fe01d21a9e$fe96db20$fbc49160$@gmail.com>

Thanks.

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Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I just ran across this today and thought of some of you, especially you,
Joyce. 
I was reading through the September newsletter for TCOYD, which stands for
Taking Control of Your Diabetes. It seems that TCOYD has received some grant
money to cover the cost of a CGM for those who are low income, have
hypoglycemia unawareness and have been denied a CGM coverage under MediCare
or Medicaid. 
Here is the link to see if you qualify and to fill out an application.
https://tcoyd.org/resources/cgm.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&
utm_content=27577885&utm_campaign=September%20E-Update%20from%20TCOYD

This is a great group and I really hope someone on this list can benefit.
Veronica



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 22:24:11 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:24:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity
6.Have medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare
appeal if requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 




From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Sep 29 23:03:00 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:03:00 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01d21aa5$a00565c0$e0103140$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

I suspect that with limited funds, they're trying to cover those at the most
extreme end of the spectrum. But boy, for those who do, what a gift. I'm
also glad to see them going after Medicare big time.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity
6.Have medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare
appeal if requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 23:09:45 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:09:45 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
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Its not going to work for me either as I have private insurance that I pay
for through my small practice.   I will be seing how I can get he cgm
covered through my health pprovier health net of California. Hoping thathey
don't deni this one as Ithey have approved everything myendocronologist has
request from afrezza, to trulicity to tresiba .  

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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity 6.Have
medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare appeal if
requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 23:11:56 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:11:56 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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No I am type 2. I found this out in 2005.i went through every pill combination til those did not help went on lantice insulin in 2014 and have now been on afrezza as of this month and trulicity and tresiba.these are the three medication which are keeping my numbers in check.  I did havea high a1c prior to this change in medications and so far so good. 




From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 23:12:32 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:12:32 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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Good to know that is what I am testing at eh moment. Sicne idont have an I phone and have na nadorid deive . I am hoping thahis unit is compatible with an android device. 

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:11 PM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I'm not using it yet, but my endo says the Dexcum is the only CGM that has FDA approval for accuracy. He believes it's comparable to the accuracy of meters. I say this for what it's worth.

But my understanding is that you still have to test throughout the day. And just saying, 4 times is not much. I test 6 to 8, sometimes more. If new to testing, your fingers need time to adjust, but 4 is not much at all, and likely expected with a CGM.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:16 PM
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Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom
> g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get 
> a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to 
> se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it 
> does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company 
> why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need 
> be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional 
> expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the 
> day. As the endo wanted me to  take
> 4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom
> g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a week. 
> I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.
> 
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From ntnmprt at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 29 23:12:59 2016
From: ntnmprt at hotmail.com (ed worrell)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:12:59 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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	<DM5PR19MB14972BAE3BCFCFC575A8DDD4A0CE0@DM5PR19MB1497.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
	<000001d21a91$7c281f30$74785d90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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	<01fd01d21a9e$cb5a66a0$620f33e0$@gmail.com>
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I am not a swimmer. But I have to noticed that the sensor seems to bug out a little if the temperature goes up. I have noticed that after a shower the DexCom will tell me of a high glucose, but just waiting a few minutes and the sensor on the DexCom cools down, and returns to normal.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Are you type one?

So much goes into glucose control. Exercise, diet, frequent testing, etc. It can take trial and error to figure out the right combo for you, but usually frequent testing is key.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I was reding up on the dexcom.the insturctions say califoarate  every 12 hours once .so I don?t know what is he best ideal settings. Whats the point of caliberatin more then once if your goals is to get an idea of the graph as it relates ot the glucose controls. Sorry I a being a bit pesimestic on the outlook of he matter.  But having had this disease for 12 years now, things haven ot change and are not going to change for ethe better. The only thin gi can control from getting worse and taking over my life. Thast the only thing I can do abouthe matter. Control the diseas and not lethe disease control my life.

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:39 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com<mailto:veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
               Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom
g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get
a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to
se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it
does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company
why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need
be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional
expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the
day. As the endo wanted me to  take
4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom
g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a week.
I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 23:18:01 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:18:01 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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Sso when you take a shower how do you dry so thathe sensor doe not have isues. Just wondering. This is my first week tiral and I needo tknow most use cases beforei ddecide on the dexcom cgm.  

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Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I am not a swimmer. But I have to noticed that the sensor seems to bug out a little if the temperature goes up. I have noticed that after a shower the DexCom will tell me of a high glucose, but just waiting a few minutes and the sensor on the DexCom cools down, and returns to normal.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Are you type one?

So much goes into glucose control. Exercise, diet, frequent testing, etc. It can take trial and error to figure out the right combo for you, but usually frequent testing is key.

Bridgit

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:04 PM
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Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com<mailto:gmelconian619 at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I was reding up on the dexcom.the insturctions say califoarate  every 12 hours once .so I don?t know what is he best ideal settings. Whats the point of caliberatin more then once if your goals is to get an idea of the graph as it relates ot the glucose controls. Sorry I a being a bit pesimestic on the outlook of he matter.  But having had this disease for 12 years now, things haven ot change and are not going to change for ethe better. The only thin gi can control from getting worse and taking over my life. Thast the only thing I can do abouthe matter. Control the diseas and not lethe disease control my life.

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:39 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com<mailto:veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
               Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom
g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the day. As the endo wanted me to  take
4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom
g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a week.
I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Sep 29 23:21:35 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:21:35 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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Ed, I've noticed the same thing after a shower. It goes crazy after being in a cold swimming pool too. Conversations with tech support are pretty funny because they always claim they've never heard of this and just replace the transmitter. <grin> 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:13 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I am not a swimmer. But I have to noticed that the sensor seems to bug out a little if the temperature goes up. I have noticed that after a shower the DexCom will tell me of a high glucose, but just waiting a few minutes and the sensor on the DexCom cools down, and returns to normal.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Are you type one?

So much goes into glucose control. Exercise, diet, frequent testing, etc. It can take trial and error to figure out the right combo for you, but usually frequent testing is key.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I was reding up on the dexcom.the insturctions say califoarate  every 12 hours once .so I don?t know what is he best ideal settings. Whats the point of caliberatin more then once if your goals is to get an idea of the graph as it relates ot the glucose controls. Sorry I a being a bit pesimestic on the outlook of he matter.  But having had this disease for 12 years now, things haven ot change and are not going to change for ethe better. The only thin gi can control from getting worse and taking over my life. Thast the only thing I can do abouthe matter. Control the diseas and not lethe disease control my life.

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
               Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom
g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get
a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to
se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it
does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company
why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need
be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional
expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the
day. As the endo wanted me to  take
4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom
g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a week.
I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Sep 29 23:24:42 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:24:42 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a
 trial basis
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You just dry off and make sure that you dry the tape. When we talk about the sensor reacting, that actually happens insice your body so there's nothing you can do about that one. Mostly just try to keep your iPhone or receiver 20 feet or less from you as much as you can. If you leave it in another room and forget about it, it will lose signal and you'll have a blank spot in your pattern. So just make friends with your new shadow when it arrives. <grin> 
And yes, I do believe Healthnet of California will cover the CGm.
Veronica


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Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Sso when you take a shower how do you dry so thathe sensor doe not have isues. Just wondering. This is my first week tiral and I needo tknow most use cases beforei ddecide on the dexcom cgm.  

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Cc: ed worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I am not a swimmer. But I have to noticed that the sensor seems to bug out a little if the temperature goes up. I have noticed that after a shower the DexCom will tell me of a high glucose, but just waiting a few minutes and the sensor on the DexCom cools down, and returns to normal.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Are you type one?

So much goes into glucose control. Exercise, diet, frequent testing, etc. It can take trial and error to figure out the right combo for you, but usually frequent testing is key.

Bridgit

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Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com<mailto:gmelconian619 at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I was reding up on the dexcom.the insturctions say califoarate  every 12 hours once .so I don?t know what is he best ideal settings. Whats the point of caliberatin more then once if your goals is to get an idea of the graph as it relates ot the glucose controls. Sorry I a being a bit pesimestic on the outlook of he matter.  But having had this disease for 12 years now, things haven ot change and are not going to change for ethe better. The only thin gi can control from getting worse and taking over my life. Thast the only thing I can do abouthe matter. Control the diseas and not lethe disease control my life.

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com<mailto:veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

I actually calibrate my Dexcom three times a day so that I can control when the thing starts annoying me about calibrating. Mine gets way off once in awhile, particularly after I've gone swimming. I'm beginning to think that the transmitter is more temperature sensitive than they claim.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
               Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:16 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: ed worrell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re just got a dexom g5 cgm to try tou on a trial basis

Hello,

You will have to calibrate the system twice a day. Once in the morning, and once before bed. I still keep my glucose monitor around pretty close as the DexCom system sometimes is a quite as accurate as you would think. I also recommend if you are having any highs or lows to check with your glucose monitor, as the system like I said before could be a little bit off. I find that the DexCom is usually with in a few points weather that?s high or low. The system is great but you will still need your glucose monitor a minimum of twice daily, maybe even more.

Ed
On Sep 29, 2016, at 1:51 PM, gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

Hello I just saw my endo today. He placed me on a trial for the dexcom
g5 cgm so we can have better idea of my glucos numbers an then to  get a better idea of diabetes management . I am on the trial for 1 week to se how well the dexcom g5 works. I hope that  this does work. Once it does work , the hard part will be justifying to  the insurance company why I need the device. we will se when I cross that  bridge. IF need be I will have to fund it out of pocket that will be an additional expense. But is easier to do then priking fingers  every hour of the day. As the endo wanted me to  take
4 reading every day to get an idea of my numbers. So with the dexcom
g5 I hope I wont have to  do that but caliberate  a few times  a week.
I don't know but wanting to get more understanding about it.

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 23:33:51 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:33:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
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	<000b01d21aa5$a00565c0$e0103140$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Agree.

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Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I suspect that with limited funds, they're trying to cover those at the most
extreme end of the spectrum. But boy, for those who do, what a gift. I'm
also glad to see them going after Medicare big time.
Veronica


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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity 6.Have
medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare appeal if
requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 00:38:31 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:38:31 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
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Thank you so much Veronica.  I have the denial letters and meet all their
creterias.

I can't send it out until Friday evening, but I will definitely get it out.

Joyce

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I just ran across this today and thought of some of you, especially you,
Joyce. 
I was reading through the September newsletter for TCOYD, which stands for
Taking Control of Your Diabetes. It seems that TCOYD has received some grant
money to cover the cost of a CGM for those who are low income, have
hypoglycemia unawareness and have been denied a CGM coverage under MediCare
or Medicaid. 
Here is the link to see if you qualify and to fill out an application.
https://tcoyd.org/resources/cgm.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&
utm_content=27577885&utm_campaign=September%20E-Update%20from%20TCOYD

This is a great group and I really hope someone on this list can benefit.
Veronica



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From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 01:32:01 2016
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (Robert Shelton)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:32:01 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
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Are you sure? I ask because my wife is usually able to tell if she is going
low, even at night while asleep, but if she doesn't catch it in time, then
she's helpless. I've been working on her to get the CGM. It's not going to
replace testing, but it covers those times when you should test and for some
reason, don't. 

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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity
6.Have medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare
appeal if requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 03:01:16 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:01:16 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
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	<003901d21aba$721ae490$5650adb0$@gmail.com>
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Yes, I wake myself up when low. This doesn't mean I don't drop super low at
times, but I know I am, and it's been years since I've had a severe insulin
reaction. But I also test frequently, especially if I feel low. I definitely
would not qualify if you can feel lows.

Bridgit

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Cc: Robert Shelton <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

Are you sure? I ask because my wife is usually able to tell if she is going
low, even at night while asleep, but if she doesn't catch it in time, then
she's helpless. I've been working on her to get the CGM. It's not going to
replace testing, but it covers those times when you should test and for some
reason, don't. 

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity 6.Have
medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare appeal if
requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From blindhands at aol.com  Fri Sep 30 03:14:36 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:14:36 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <003901d21aba$721ae490$5650adb0$@gmail.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
	<003901d21aba$721ae490$5650adb0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014a01d21ac8$c62af0d0$5280d270$@aol.com>

I do not feel insulin reactions at all.  I have been trying to get to the
kitchen to get juice and walked out my sliding door , falling down the steps
and breaking my wrist.  The Twenty years back within 18 months I had 2
silent heart attacks and didn't have a clue I had them.  Second one I had
shortness of breath walking in the hall I worked at.  I have had diabetes
for 57 years.

My family has found me passed out on the floor with estimates of me being
there 3 to 4 hours.  Since my husband died 2 years ago things have gotten
worst as I am home alone most of the time.

That is why I fought to get a CGM to go with the Meditronic  insulin pump
and received 3 denials.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Robert Shelton <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

Are you sure? I ask because my wife is usually able to tell if she is going
low, even at night while asleep, but if she doesn't catch it in time, then
she's helpless. I've been working on her to get the CGM. It's not going to
replace testing, but it covers those times when you should test and for some
reason, don't. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity 6.Have
medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare appeal if
requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From rshelton1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 04:11:50 2016
From: rshelton1 at gmail.com (Robert Shelton)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:11:50 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <014a01d21ac8$c62af0d0$5280d270$@aol.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>
	<003901d21aba$721ae490$5650adb0$@gmail.com>
	<014a01d21ac8$c62af0d0$5280d270$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000901d21ad0$c55c5c90$501515b0$@gmail.com>

My goodness. If this isn't a case, I never heard one. Bless them for making
grants available and bless you for giving them a hammer to work on Medicare.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I do not feel insulin reactions at all.  I have been trying to get to the
kitchen to get juice and walked out my sliding door , falling down the steps
and breaking my wrist.  The Twenty years back within 18 months I had 2
silent heart attacks and didn't have a clue I had them.  Second one I had
shortness of breath walking in the hall I worked at.  I have had diabetes
for 57 years.

My family has found me passed out on the floor with estimates of me being
there 3 to 4 hours.  Since my husband died 2 years ago things have gotten
worst as I am home alone most of the time.

That is why I fought to get a CGM to go with the Meditronic  insulin pump
and received 3 denials.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Robert Shelton <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

Are you sure? I ask because my wife is usually able to tell if she is going
low, even at night while asleep, but if she doesn't catch it in time, then
she's helpless. I've been working on her to get the CGM. It's not going to
replace testing, but it covers those times when you should test and for some
reason, don't. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity 6.Have
medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare appeal if
requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 05:28:39 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:28:39 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have dexcom
 cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best place to
 get hem
Message-ID: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>

Hello after having a very good day with the  dexcom cgm trial, and getting
an idea that  I was using to much insulin.    I am convinced in the
benefits of the cgm.i will be returning the trial unit next week an
requesting the cgm. I would like to know what is the cost of the replacement
sensors. Also wat are the best places  to get them as far as the best prices
for thet cgm replacement sensors. This is for those who use the unit. I need
to get  all my information as I make my decision to get the cgm whether that
be thrue my insurance health net of California PPO or out of pocket just in
case  they refuse to cover it. these are the questions I have ffor the group
who use the dexcom cgm . 



From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 14:45:07 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:45:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <014a01d21ac8$c62af0d0$5280d270$@aol.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<021301d21aa0$341d7140$9c5853c0$@gmail.com>	<003901d21aba$721ae490$5650adb0$@gmail.com>
	<014a01d21ac8$c62af0d0$5280d270$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <010a01d21b29$3d2500d0$b76f0270$@gmail.com>

Joyce,

That's insane you have been denied. Just shows that insurance companies
don't really care about patient care.

You definitely seem to qualify for this program for CGMs.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I do not feel insulin reactions at all.  I have been trying to get to the
kitchen to get juice and walked out my sliding door , falling down the steps
and breaking my wrist.  The Twenty years back within 18 months I had 2
silent heart attacks and didn't have a clue I had them.  Second one I had
shortness of breath walking in the hall I worked at.  I have had diabetes
for 57 years.

My family has found me passed out on the floor with estimates of me being
there 3 to 4 hours.  Since my husband died 2 years ago things have gotten
worst as I am home alone most of the time.

That is why I fought to get a CGM to go with the Meditronic  insulin pump
and received 3 denials.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Shelton via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:32 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Robert Shelton <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

Are you sure? I ask because my wife is usually able to tell if she is going
low, even at night while asleep, but if she doesn't catch it in time, then
she's helpless. I've been working on her to get the CGM. It's not going to
replace testing, but it covers those times when you should test and for some
reason, don't. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I went to the site and found the rules for those interested. Based on this,
not just anyone qualifies. For me, for instance, will not, especially with
number one, I have no problem knowing when I'm low:

1.Have diabetes requiring multiple daily injections or insulin pump therapy
with hypoglycemia unawareness (the inability to recognize when your blood
sugar is too low).
2.Have had private health insurance coverage for CGM before transitioning to
Medicare.
3.Have been denied coverage for a CGM by Medicare, filed a request for
redetermination (the first level of appeal), and been denied again.
4.Be able to include a copy of the redetermination decision letter from
Medicare denying the first level of appeal.
5.Have a physician willing to sign a statement of medical necessity 6.Have
medical records that can be submitted in support of the Medicare appeal if
requested.
7.Agree to have their favorable Administrative Law Judge decision shared and
added to the administrative record on appeals. The purpose of this request
is to send a message to Medicare that this is an important issue and affects
many people.
8.Have gross annual pre-tax household income below the median income in your
state for a household of the same size. 


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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Sep 30 17:21:07 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:21:07 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.
In-Reply-To: <00f501d21ab2$f8468e00$e8d3aa00$@aol.com>
References: <000901d21a99$4f961500$eec23f00$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<00f501d21ab2$f8468e00$e8d3aa00$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b501d21b3f$07c423b0$174c6b10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Oh Joyce, I hope they can help you. Paws crossed over here.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

Thank you so much Veronica.  I have the denial letters and meet all their
creterias.

I can't send it out until Friday evening, but I will definitely get it out.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:35 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help for those denied CGM coverage.

I just ran across this today and thought of some of you, especially you,
Joyce. 
I was reading through the September newsletter for TCOYD, which stands for
Taking Control of Your Diabetes. It seems that TCOYD has received some grant
money to cover the cost of a CGM for those who are low income, have
hypoglycemia unawareness and have been denied a CGM coverage under MediCare
or Medicaid. 
Here is the link to see if you qualify and to fill out an application.
https://tcoyd.org/resources/cgm.html?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&
utm_content=27577885&utm_campaign=September%20E-Update%20from%20TCOYD

This is a great group and I really hope someone on this list can benefit.
Veronica



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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Fri Sep 30 17:24:43 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:24:43 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
 dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
 place to get hem
In-Reply-To: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>
References: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b701d21b3f$8883e300$998ba900$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Gary, I buy all of my supplies directly from Dexcom. I know that Healthnet
of California covers it. How much it will cost depends on your durable
medical equipment policy. If you're interested in the CGM, if you call
Dexcom, they will actually check and tell you what your insurance will
cover.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have dexcom
cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best place to
get hem

Hello after having a very good day with the  dexcom cgm trial, and getting
an idea that  I was using to much insulin.    I am convinced in the
benefits of the cgm.i will be returning the trial unit next week an
requesting the cgm. I would like to know what is the cost of the replacement
sensors. Also wat are the best places  to get them as far as the best prices
for thet cgm replacement sensors. This is for those who use the unit. I need
to get  all my information as I make my decision to get the cgm whether that
be thrue my insurance health net of California PPO or out of pocket just in
case  they refuse to cover it. these are the questions I have ffor the group
who use the dexcom cgm . 

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 20:20:48 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:20:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
 dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
 place to get hem
In-Reply-To: <00b701d21b3f$8883e300$998ba900$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>
	<00b701d21b3f$8883e300$998ba900$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <015301d21b58$2289e4a0$679dade0$@gmail.com>

Thanks very much. I have already done that.i have the forms and taking care
of them right now. So when I do se my endo next week to turn back the trial
unit I can have the endo complete the forms an then we will se what happens
from there on out. Thanks for the group in introducing me to things  that I
did not know about. Ever since using the dexcom for two days I have noticed
a big deal in my numbers and the way that I approach my treatmen schedule.
Prior to the dexcom I would be over dozing on insulin and now I have cut my
insulin down from 70 to 50 units. So far so good. The dexcom has been giving
me more information then I ever had. Since I don?t have an I phone I do have
an I pod touch 5g around here   to get he data to analyze . . that?s what I
am using a my means fo getting al ltt the information. When they do have an
androd version of the device an it gives as much more information as the ios
version iwould be happy but till then that?s not a big deal abouteh unit.
The main pint ht its accessible ot us and no matter the mobile platform we
can eth e information we need ot control our diabetes. Whether that e on how
much insuling to administer or when there are lows and to take care of htem.
I was having a fw lows below 90 as I had set my low to 90 and m high to 1890
as I would hit that before the dexcom when I would do indepent finger priks.
So its been a big improvement in my diabetes management.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Gary, I buy all of my supplies directly from Dexcom. I know that Healthnet
of California covers it. How much it will cost depends on your durable
medical equipment policy. If you're interested in the CGM, if you call
Dexcom, they will actually check and tell you what your insurance will
cover.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have dexcom
cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best place to
get hem

Hello after having a very good day with the  dexcom cgm trial, and getting
an idea that  I was using to much insulin.    I am convinced in the
benefits of the cgm.i will be returning the trial unit next week an
requesting the cgm. I would like to know what is the cost of the replacement
sensors. Also wat are the best places  to get them as far as the best prices
for thet cgm replacement sensors. This is for those who use the unit. I need
to get  all my information as I make my decision to get the cgm whether that
be thrue my insurance health net of California PPO or out of pocket just in
case  they refuse to cover it. these are the questions I have ffor the group
who use the dexcom cgm . 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 21:24:03 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:24:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
 dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
 place to get hem
In-Reply-To: <015301d21b58$2289e4a0$679dade0$@gmail.com>
References: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>	<00b701d21b3f$8883e300$998ba900$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<015301d21b58$2289e4a0$679dade0$@gmail.com>
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My doctor told me that the Dexcum itself would cost between $1000 and $1500,
and the censors would cost about $140 a month. Don't know entirely how
accurate this is, but it's what my endo told me when I asked about
out-of-pocket costs.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 3:21 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Thanks very much. I have already done that.i have the forms and taking care
of them right now. So when I do se my endo next week to turn back the trial
unit I can have the endo complete the forms an then we will se what happens
from there on out. Thanks for the group in introducing me to things  that I
did not know about. Ever since using the dexcom for two days I have noticed
a big deal in my numbers and the way that I approach my treatmen schedule.
Prior to the dexcom I would be over dozing on insulin and now I have cut my
insulin down from 70 to 50 units. So far so good. The dexcom has been giving
me more information then I ever had. Since I don?t have an I phone I do have
an I pod touch 5g around here   to get he data to analyze . . that?s what I
am using a my means fo getting al ltt the information. When they do have an
androd version of the device an it gives as much more information as the ios
version iwould be happy but till then that?s not a big deal abouteh unit.
The main pint ht its accessible ot us and no matter the mobile platform we
can eth e information we need ot control our diabetes. Whether that e on how
much insuling to administer or when there are lows and to take care of htem.
I was having a fw lows below 90 as I had set my low to 90 and m high to 1890
as I would hit that before the dexcom when I would do indepent finger priks.
So its been a big improvement in my diabetes management.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Gary, I buy all of my supplies directly from Dexcom. I know that Healthnet
of California covers it. How much it will cost depends on your durable
medical equipment policy. If you're interested in the CGM, if you call
Dexcom, they will actually check and tell you what your insurance will
cover.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have dexcom
cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best place to
get hem

Hello after having a very good day with the  dexcom cgm trial, and getting
an idea that  I was using to much insulin.    I am convinced in the
benefits of the cgm.i will be returning the trial unit next week an
requesting the cgm. I would like to know what is the cost of the replacement
sensors. Also wat are the best places  to get them as far as the best prices
for thet cgm replacement sensors. This is for those who use the unit. I need
to get  all my information as I make my decision to get the cgm whether that
be thrue my insurance health net of California PPO or out of pocket just in
case  they refuse to cover it. these are the questions I have ffor the group
who use the dexcom cgm . 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 21:24:27 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:24:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
 dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
 place to get hem
In-Reply-To: <015301d21b58$2289e4a0$679dade0$@gmail.com>
References: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>	<00b701d21b3f$8883e300$998ba900$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<015301d21b58$2289e4a0$679dade0$@gmail.com>
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Sorry, I meant to say the costs without insurance.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 3:21 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Thanks very much. I have already done that.i have the forms and taking care
of them right now. So when I do se my endo next week to turn back the trial
unit I can have the endo complete the forms an then we will se what happens
from there on out. Thanks for the group in introducing me to things  that I
did not know about. Ever since using the dexcom for two days I have noticed
a big deal in my numbers and the way that I approach my treatmen schedule.
Prior to the dexcom I would be over dozing on insulin and now I have cut my
insulin down from 70 to 50 units. So far so good. The dexcom has been giving
me more information then I ever had. Since I don?t have an I phone I do have
an I pod touch 5g around here   to get he data to analyze . . that?s what I
am using a my means fo getting al ltt the information. When they do have an
androd version of the device an it gives as much more information as the ios
version iwould be happy but till then that?s not a big deal abouteh unit.
The main pint ht its accessible ot us and no matter the mobile platform we
can eth e information we need ot control our diabetes. Whether that e on how
much insuling to administer or when there are lows and to take care of htem.
I was having a fw lows below 90 as I had set my low to 90 and m high to 1890
as I would hit that before the dexcom when I would do indepent finger priks.
So its been a big improvement in my diabetes management.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Gary, I buy all of my supplies directly from Dexcom. I know that Healthnet
of California covers it. How much it will cost depends on your durable
medical equipment policy. If you're interested in the CGM, if you call
Dexcom, they will actually check and tell you what your insurance will
cover.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have dexcom
cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best place to
get hem

Hello after having a very good day with the  dexcom cgm trial, and getting
an idea that  I was using to much insulin.    I am convinced in the
benefits of the cgm.i will be returning the trial unit next week an
requesting the cgm. I would like to know what is the cost of the replacement
sensors. Also wat are the best places  to get them as far as the best prices
for thet cgm replacement sensors. This is for those who use the unit. I need
to get  all my information as I make my decision to get the cgm whether that
be thrue my insurance health net of California PPO or out of pocket just in
case  they refuse to cover it. these are the questions I have ffor the group
who use the dexcom cgm . 

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 21:45:42 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:45:42 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
 dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
 place to get hem
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References: <004101d21adb$808ab660$81a02320$@gmail.com>	<00b701d21b3f$8883e300$998ba900$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<015301d21b58$2289e4a0$679dade0$@gmail.com>
	<00b801d21b60$f8422320$e8c66960$@gmail.com>
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Good to  know. I just don?t want to be paying an outrageous price forhe
sensors. I did some research there  are some third party medical supply
places which do supply the dexcom sensors. For reasonable prices. I found
two places  3 months supply for $100 and one other place 2 month  supply for
$70. So that  would be what I would probably end up doing  if I do get the
dexcom g5. I don?t have an I phone so my I pod  touch would be the main use
of my data collection and gathering information for analysis.  Thanks for
all the information. Can't wait ot ge my dexcom g5. This will be my healthy
gift to myself this year just in case its not covered by insurance.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

My doctor told me that the Dexcum itself would cost between $1000 and $1500,
and the censors would cost about $140 a month. Don't know entirely how
accurate this is, but it's what my endo told me when I asked about
out-of-pocket costs.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 3:21 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: gary melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Thanks very much. I have already done that.i have the forms and taking care
of them right now. So when I do se my endo next week to turn back the trial
unit I can have the endo complete the forms an then we will se what happens
from there on out. Thanks for the group in introducing me to things  that I
did not know about. Ever since using the dexcom for two days I have noticed
a big deal in my numbers and the way that I approach my treatmen schedule.
Prior to the dexcom I would be over dozing on insulin and now I have cut my
insulin down from 70 to 50 units. So far so good. The dexcom has been giving
me more information then I ever had. Since I don?t have an I phone I do have
an I pod touch 5g around here   to get he data to analyze . . that?s what I
am using a my means fo getting al ltt the information. When they do have an
androd version of the device an it gives as much more information as the ios
version iwould be happy but till then that?s not a big deal abouteh unit.
The main pint ht its accessible ot us and no matter the mobile platform we
can eth e information we need ot control our diabetes. Whether that e on how
much insuling to administer or when there are lows and to take care of htem.
I was having a fw lows below 90 as I had set my low to 90 and m high to 1890
as I would hit that before the dexcom when I would do indepent finger priks.
So its been a big improvement in my diabetes management.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:25 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have
dexcom cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best
place to get hem

Gary, I buy all of my supplies directly from Dexcom. I know that Healthnet
of California covers it. How much it will cost depends on your durable
medical equipment policy. If you're interested in the CGM, if you call
Dexcom, they will actually check and tell you what your insurance will
cover.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
gary melconian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:29 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: gary melconian
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re question for those on the list who have dexcom
cgm whats the cost for the replacemnt sensors ans wher is the best place to
get hem

Hello after having a very good day with the  dexcom cgm trial, and getting
an idea that  I was using to much insulin.    I am convinced in the
benefits of the cgm.i will be returning the trial unit next week an
requesting the cgm. I would like to know what is the cost of the replacement
sensors. Also wat are the best places  to get them as far as the best prices
for thet cgm replacement sensors. This is for those who use the unit. I need
to get  all my information as I make my decision to get the cgm whether that
be thrue my insurance health net of California PPO or out of pocket just in
case  they refuse to cover it. these are the questions I have ffor the group
who use the dexcom cgm . 

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