From everett at everettgavel.com  Mon Aug  1 13:07:43 2016
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 07:07:43 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh? ;
	-)
Message-ID: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com>

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in
case" it was old news, huh? Sorry about that,
folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a
good thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message ----- 
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest,
Vol 106, Issue 25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about
the Apple watch and diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk
list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't want to
ask this on the list in case it was old news to
everyone. I've been away from the list for a
while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has
now found out she's a diabetic. 

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple
watch stuff, but about your mention of taking both
oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway. 

I just wanted to make sure you know about the
products out there for a blind or low vision
diabetic 







From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 15:19:49 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:19:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
In-Reply-To: <1caeb9.616bd4b7.44ce3e56@aol.com>
References: <1caeb9.616bd4b7.44ce3e56@aol.com>
Message-ID: <02f001d1ec08$2567ace0$703706a0$@gmail.com>

 Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent
bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap and toss
in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material hazardous to
others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Classemt at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 15:21:36 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:21:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
In-Reply-To: <3B7E2DFF-171E-4EA9-BD0D-B50B56AE9DCF@panix.com>
References: <1caeb9.616bd4b7.44ce3e56@aol.com>
	<3B7E2DFF-171E-4EA9-BD0D-B50B56AE9DCF@panix.com>
Message-ID: <02f101d1ec08$657a4360$306eca20$@gmail.com>

I actually did not know services like this existed. I've always been
encouraged to keep sharps in something like an empty plastic container, but
I was told it was okay to just trash the container when full as long as it
was sealed.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 2:39 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

I save my sharps in a designated container. Every few months, I have my wife
take the medical waste to a facility at our local dump designated for that

Mike Freeman


> On Jul 30, 2016, at 10:31, Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Mon Aug  1 15:35:24 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:35:24 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] apple watch diabetes management
In-Reply-To: <1541D5C2-DD29-471B-B4C8-F993F6CAC538@comcast.net>
References: <1541D5C2-DD29-471B-B4C8-F993F6CAC538@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <010001d1ec0a$52ac32a0$f80497e0$@panix.com>

Since I do not own an AppleWatch, I can say nothing as to which apps work
with it. However, I do use an app called GlucoseRecorder which allows
keeping track of readings and any ancillary information you wish to add for
each reading. It has a few quirks but is fully accessible and backs its data
up to iCloud.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Marianne Robbins via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:35 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Marianne Robbins
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] apple watch diabetes management

Hello all,

I am writing to inquire whether anyone has direct experience with using the
Apple Watch as a tool for diabetes management? If so, I would be interested
to know what specific apps you use to track glucose levels, medication, etc.
I am A voiceover user. 
My medications are administered orally and via injection. Not pump.
Thanks in advance for any information or insight you might offer.

Marianne Robbins
MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net



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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Mon Aug  1 16:25:07 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:25:07 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
In-Reply-To: <02f001d1ec08$2567ace0$703706a0$@gmail.com>
References: <1caeb9.616bd4b7.44ce3e56@aol.com>
	<02f001d1ec08$2567ace0$703706a0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B116CD5CF15042338B0E96291F188D29@mPC>

Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I live 
alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the bags away, I 
make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will fall out, and then 
toss them into our trash compactor.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent
bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap and toss
in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material hazardous to
others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Classemt at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela
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From airadil at dslextreme.com  Mon Aug  1 16:26:53 2016
From: airadil at dslextreme.com (Estelnalissi)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:26:53 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com>
Message-ID: <9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not 
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes 
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them 
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply 
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so 
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about 
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check 
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message----- 
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh? 
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in
case" it was old news, huh? Sorry about that,
folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a
good thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message ----- 
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest,
Vol 106, Issue 25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about
the Apple watch and diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk
list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't want to
ask this on the list in case it was old news to
everyone. I've been away from the list for a
while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has
now found out she's a diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple
watch stuff, but about your mention of taking both
oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the
products out there for a blind or low vision
diabetic





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From k7uij at panix.com  Mon Aug  1 16:46:11 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 09:46:11 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the
	list,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com>
	<9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com>

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh? 
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Mon Aug  1 16:56:00 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:56:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on
	thelist,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com><9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>
	<011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <9F06F936929E4F29865F9008EB3957C7@mPC>

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that 
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much 
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things, 
lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, 
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From blindhands at aol.com  Mon Aug  1 16:53:26 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:53:26 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Glucose Recording
Message-ID: <016401d1ec15$3b4019a0$b1c04ce0$@aol.com>

Mike,

I use this app, too.  What do you need to do to back it up to the ICloud?  I
didn't know you could do that.

Joyce




From k7uij at panix.com  Mon Aug  1 17:28:11 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:28:11 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Glucose Recording
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I believe it's automatic. You don't have to worry about it.

Mike


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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:53 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Glucose Recording

Mike,

I use this app, too.  What do you need to do to back it up to the ICloud?  I
didn't know you could do that.

Joyce


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 19:08:05 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, which
the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin cartridges do have a
needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you have to recap it. I've
never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, and yes, the trash is
thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.

Bridgit

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Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I live
alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the bags away, I
make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will fall out, and then
toss them into our trash compactor.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent bottle
to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap and toss in
garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material hazardous to
others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.

Bridgit

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Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 19:22:13 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:22:13 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the
	list,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com>
	<9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <03ef01d1ec2a$02395b70$06ac1250$@gmail.com>

They make two talking meters. The Prodigy and the Soluce (I may be spelling
that second one wrong). I prefer the Prodigy Voice. It's fully accessible
and is pretty accurate.

I test 6 to 8 times a day. I've been type one diabetic for 30 years, so it's
become a part of my routine. I've had my struggles and went through times
where I didn't manage things the way I should have, but now in my mid-30s,
I've learned that sh*# happens in life, and you either get on board or not.
And if not, in the case of diabetes, you end up with major health
complications or worse. I have a son and now another one on the way, and I
want to be around and healthy for them. I don't want major health
complications, which can happen no matter what, but when you don't take care
of your diabetes, they are a guarantee.

I also use an insulin pump. I have for about 12 years now. Personally, I
love it and feel my sugars are in the best control since being on a pump.
But you have to be serious about testing and carb counting when using a
pump. Well, you do no matter the form of insulin injection, but with a pump,
it seems if mismanaging, things can go south much quicker. A friend of mine
was recently taken off his pump because he has not been managing, and ended
up in hospital with DKA. He goes weeks without testing, and does not often
give insulin, causing him to be constantly high. It caught up to him.

BTW, diabetics don't usually have food restrictions, it's just about
portions and moderation. We can eat sugar and junk, just not every meal, and
maybe not a slice of pie the size of a plate or six candy bars, LOL! But
then again, no one should. And it's also about taking the correct
insulin/carb ratio, if insulin dependent. Personally, I avoid refined sugar
and wheat and grains, but that's more about other reasons than diabetes
alone. They just aren't great for anyone. But to have the occasional treat
or candy or baked good or fastfood item or whatever your likes are, it's
totally okay.

Everybody here is in it together. We live through the same things every day.
We all test and regulate with some method of treatment. We all determine
what should and should not be a part of our diet. We provide encouragement
and information and support.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Estelnalissi <airadil at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh? 
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 19:25:34 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:25:34 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com><9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>	<011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com>
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I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that 
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much 
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, 
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 23:59:04 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 18:59:04 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <03f001d1ec2a$7a145730$6e3d0590$@gmail.com>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com><9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>	<011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com>
	<9F06F936929E4F29865F9008EB3957C7@mPC>
	<03f001d1ec2a$7a145730$6e3d0590$@gmail.com>
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I have had one side of my finger work very cooperatively, and one side
refuse to give me any blood, no matter what I do! And I find I'm better at
successfully placing the blood on the strip from one side of the finger than
the other. 

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 00:12:51 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:12:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic
	down	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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Okay, so it's not just me. Thought something was wrong with me, LOL!

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:59 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I have had one side of my finger work very cooperatively, and one side
refuse to give me any blood, no matter what I do! And I find I'm better at
successfully placing the blood on the strip from one side of the finger than
the other. 

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 00:23:43 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:23:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic
	down	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <04a501d1ec52$9c983830$d5c8a890$@gmail.com>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com><9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>	<011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com>	<9F06F936929E4F29865F9008EB3957C7@mPC>	<03f001d1ec2a$7a145730$6e3d0590$@gmail.com>
	<006901d1ec50$aeecfa40$0cc6eec0$@gmail.com>
	<04a501d1ec52$9c983830$d5c8a890$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009601d1ec54$20e87bd0$62b97370$@gmail.com>

If it is, it's wrong with both of us! *grin*

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:13 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Okay, so it's not just me. Thought something was wrong with me, LOL!

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:59 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I have had one side of my finger work very cooperatively, and one side
refuse to give me any blood, no matter what I do! And I find I'm better at
successfully placing the blood on the strip from one side of the finger than
the other. 

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 01:02:17 2016
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 21:02:17 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, which
> the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin cartridges do have a
> needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you have to recap it. I've
> never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, and yes, the trash is
> thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I live
> alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the bags away, I
> make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will fall out, and then
> toss them into our trash compactor.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent bottle
> to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap and toss in
> garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material hazardous to
> others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Classemt at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela
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Bern





From dandrews at visi.com  Tue Aug  2 02:41:17 2016
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 21:41:17 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic
 down	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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So, curious minds want to know ... do you bleed to the right, or to 
the left!?  (LOLL)

Dave

At 07:23 PM 8/1/2016, you wrote:
>If it is, it's wrong with both of us! *grin*
>
>Sandi
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:13 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
>huh? ; -)
>
>Okay, so it's not just me. Thought something was wrong with me, LOL!
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:59 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
>huh? ; -)
>
>I have had one side of my finger work very cooperatively, and one side
>refuse to give me any blood, no matter what I do! And I find I'm better at
>successfully placing the blood on the strip from one side of the finger than
>the other.
>
>Sandi
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:26 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
>huh? ; -)
>
>I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
>side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
>side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
>right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
>struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
>experience this?
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
>huh? ; -)
>
>Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
>different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
>better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,
>
>lots of practice.
>
>
>
>Mark Tardif
>Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Mike Freeman
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
>huh? ; -)
>
>Lissi:
>
>You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
>V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
>meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
>just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
>your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
>Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
>control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
>normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
>book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
>text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
>fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
>gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
>have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
>you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
>him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
>smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
>little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.
>
>As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
>And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
>archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
>will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
>can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
>The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
>Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
>readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
>readings are still there.
>
>You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
>Georgia.
>
>Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
>strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.
>
>Keep those questions coming.
>
>Mike Freeman, President
>NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>Cc: Estelnalissi
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
>huh? ; -)
>
>Dear Everet,
>
>I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
>humble anyone.
>
>I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
>to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
>anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
>with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
>far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
>it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!
>
>I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
>and it's past noon.
>
>Always with love,
>
>Lissi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: Everett Gavel
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
>;-)
>
>Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
>Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
>thing. ;-)
>
>
>Strive On!
>Everett
>
>
>----- original message -----
>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
>From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
>To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
>25Message-ID:
><002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
>Hello Marianne,
>
>My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
>diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
>want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
>away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
>into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
>diabetic.
>
>Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
>mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
>you say injections, anyway.
>
>I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
>or low vision diabetic




From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 02:43:59 2016
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandra Ryan)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 21:43:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic
	down	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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Hahahaha! I bleed best to the left, actually! Hahahaha!

Sandi


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 9:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: David Andrews
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

So, curious minds want to know ... do you bleed to the right, or to the
left!?  (LOLL)

Dave

At 07:23 PM 8/1/2016, you wrote:
>If it is, it's wrong with both of us! *grin*
>
>Sandi
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:13 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the 
>list, huh? ; -)
>
>Okay, so it's not just me. Thought something was wrong with me, LOL!
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:59 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>I have had one side of my finger work very cooperatively, and one side 
>refuse to give me any blood, no matter what I do! And I find I'm better 
>at successfully placing the blood on the strip from one side of the 
>finger than the other.
>
>Sandi
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:26 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the 
>other side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick 
>the left side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to 
>prick the right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, 
>and if it does, I struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other 
>hand. Anyone else experience this?
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that 
>different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much 
>better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main 
>things,
>
>lots of practice.
>
>
>
>Mark Tardif
>Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Mike Freeman
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>Lissi:
>
>You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the 
>Solus
>V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered 
>the meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I 
>you, I'd just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a 
>blind person, your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy 
>Voice from NFB's Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It 
>*does* come with control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently 
>often that I don't normally worry about it). You should also go on the 
>NFB website and read the book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in 
>the search box and you'll get text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It 
>has a good article on fingersticking techniques. I know it's 
>frustrating now but be assured it gets easier with practice. And more 
>practice. And more practice. Unless you have severe neuropathy in your 
>hands, you'll get better as you go along. If you are under the care of 
>a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have him/her watch you to see 
>where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons smear the blood 
>rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the little slit in
the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.
>
>As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
>And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back 
>through archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable 
>pharmacy that will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at 
>$5.21 a box -- you can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
>The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both 
>English and Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the 
>last ten readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although 
>the other readings are still there.
>
>You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta, 
>Georgia.
>
>Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles 
>strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.
>
>Keep those questions coming.
>
>Mike Freeman, President
>NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>Cc: Estelnalissi
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the 
>list, huh? ; -)
>
>Dear Everet,
>
>I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, 
>not humble anyone.
>
>I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it 
>comes to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't 
>making them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first 
>time. To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 
>times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I 
>don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to
go!
>
>I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
>check and it's past noon.
>
>Always with love,
>
>Lissi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: Everett Gavel
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
>;-)
>
>Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
>Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good 
>thing. ;-)
>
>
>Strive On!
>Everett
>
>
>----- original message -----
>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
>From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
>To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
>25Message-ID:
><002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
>Hello Marianne,
>
>My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and 
>diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I 
>didn't want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to 
>everyone. I've been away from the list for a while, but have recently 
>been able to come back into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife 
>has now found out she's a diabetic.
>
>Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about 
>your mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its 
>insulin, since you say injections, anyway.
>
>I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a 
>blind or low vision diabetic


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From joystigile at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 03:37:08 2016
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:37:08 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Hi Bernadette,

I wonder what you were trying to tell us?

Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:02 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, 
> which the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin 
> cartridges do have a needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you 
> have to recap it. I've never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, 
> and yes, the trash is thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I 
> live alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the 
> bags away, I make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will 
> fall out, and then toss them into our trash compactor.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent 
> bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap 
> and toss in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material 
> hazardous to others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Classemt at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela 
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il.com actually, for my sharps, lancets, needle caps and such, I use either
an old vinegar bottle or an old bleach bottle. Once I have it full, I take
my husbands superglue from downstairs and swish it around the. Then I slept
the On the bottle and nobody can get it open. Because by then, it's glues
shot.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 03:45:27 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 22:45:27 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic
	down	on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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LOL! On my left hand, I bleed to the left, and on the right, I bleed to the
right. Grin

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

So, curious minds want to know ... do you bleed to the right, or to the
left!?  (LOLL)

Dave

At 07:23 PM 8/1/2016, you wrote:
>If it is, it's wrong with both of us! *grin*
>
>Sandi
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:13 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the 
>list, huh? ; -)
>
>Okay, so it's not just me. Thought something was wrong with me, LOL!
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:59 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>I have had one side of my finger work very cooperatively, and one side 
>refuse to give me any blood, no matter what I do! And I find I'm better 
>at successfully placing the blood on the strip from one side of the 
>finger than the other.
>
>Sandi
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:26 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the 
>other side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick 
>the left side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to 
>prick the right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, 
>and if it does, I struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other 
>hand. Anyone else experience this?
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that 
>different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much 
>better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main 
>things,
>
>lots of practice.
>
>
>
>Mark Tardif
>Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>Cc: Mike Freeman
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
>thelist, huh? ; -)
>
>Lissi:
>
>You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the 
>Solus
>V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered 
>the meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I 
>you, I'd just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a 
>blind person, your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy 
>Voice from NFB's Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It 
>*does* come with control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently 
>often that I don't normally worry about it). You should also go on the 
>NFB website and read the book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in 
>the search box and you'll get text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It 
>has a good article on fingersticking techniques. I know it's 
>frustrating now but be assured it gets easier with practice. And more 
>practice. And more practice. Unless you have severe neuropathy in your 
>hands, you'll get better as you go along. If you are under the care of 
>a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have him/her watch you to see 
>where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons smear the blood 
>rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the little slit in
the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.
>
>As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
>And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back 
>through archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable 
>pharmacy that will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at 
>$5.21 a box -- you can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
>The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both 
>English and Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the 
>last ten readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although 
>the other readings are still there.
>
>You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta, 
>Georgia.
>
>Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles 
>strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.
>
>Keep those questions coming.
>
>Mike Freeman, President
>NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>Cc: Estelnalissi
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the 
>list, huh? ; -)
>
>Dear Everet,
>
>I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, 
>not humble anyone.
>
>I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it 
>comes to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't 
>making them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first 
>time. To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 
>times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I 
>don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to
go!
>
>I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
>check and it's past noon.
>
>Always with love,
>
>Lissi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
>To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>Cc: Everett Gavel
>Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
>;-)
>
>Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
>Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good 
>thing. ;-)
>
>
>Strive On!
>Everett
>
>
>----- original message -----
>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
>From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
>To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
>25Message-ID:
><002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
>Hello Marianne,
>
>My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and 
>diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I 
>didn't want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to 
>everyone. I've been away from the list for a while, but have recently 
>been able to come back into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife 
>has now found out she's a diabetic.
>
>Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about 
>your mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its 
>insulin, since you say injections, anyway.
>
>I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a 
>blind or low vision diabetic


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 03:46:15 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 22:46:15 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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The message is at the end of the thread.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Hi Bernadette,

I wonder what you were trying to tell us?

Joy


-----Original Message-----
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Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:02 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
> Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, 
> which the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin 
> cartridges do have a needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you 
> have to recap it. I've never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, 
> and yes, the trash is thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I 
> live alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the 
> bags away, I make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will 
> fall out, and then toss them into our trash compactor.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent 
> bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap 
> and toss in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material 
> hazardous to others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Classemt at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela 
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il.com actually, for my sharps, lancets, needle caps and such, I use either
an old vinegar bottle or an old bleach bottle. Once I have it full, I take
my husbands superglue from downstairs and swish it around the. Then I slept
the On the bottle and nobody can get it open. Because by then, it's glues
shot.


Bern



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From joystigile at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 04:04:03 2016
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 21:04:03 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Thanks, Bridget!  I never would have thought to look there.

Joy


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Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

The message is at the end of the thread.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:37 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Hi Bernadette,

I wonder what you were trying to tell us?

Joy


-----Original Message-----
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Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:02 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
> Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, 
> which the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin 
> cartridges do have a needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you 
> have to recap it. I've never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, 
> and yes, the trash is thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I 
> live alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the 
> bags away, I make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will 
> fall out, and then toss them into our trash compactor.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent 
> bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap 
> and toss in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material 
> hazardous to others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Classemt at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela 
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an old vinegar bottle or an old bleach bottle. Once I have it full, I take
my husbands superglue from downstairs and swish it around the. Then I slept
the On the bottle and nobody can get it open. Because by then, it's glues
shot.


Bern



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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 04:08:56 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 23:08:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Yeah, I didn't used to either. Then I realized that often the cursor moves,
especially when emailing from a phone or other device, putting the text at
the bottom. So when I see a blank email, especially on the list, I check at
the end, grin.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Thanks, Bridget!  I never would have thought to look there.

Joy


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

The message is at the end of the thread.

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps

Hi Bernadette,

I wonder what you were trying to tell us?

Joy


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Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
> Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, 
> which the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin 
> cartridges do have a needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you 
> have to recap it. I've never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, 
> and yes, the trash is thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I 
> live alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the 
> bags away, I make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will 
> fall out, and then toss them into our trash compactor.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent 
> bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap 
> and toss in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material 
> hazardous to others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of
> Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
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> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela 
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il.com actually, for my sharps, lancets, needle caps and such, I use either
an old vinegar bottle or an old bleach bottle. Once I have it full, I take
my husbands superglue from downstairs and swish it around the. Then I slept
the On the bottle and nobody can get it open. Because by then, it's glues
shot.


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From TALey at ups.com  Tue Aug  2 11:29:36 2016
From: TALey at ups.com (TALey at ups.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:29:36 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] bleeding to one side
Message-ID: <af359d61a1604ccab7cb898f0c685d87@SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>

Bridgit, 

Me too. We are opposites. On my left hand, palm up, the right side of my finger bleeds easily and almost none on the other side. On my right hand, palm up, the left side of the finger bleeds. 
I always assumed this was because when I have my left hand palm up, my hand isn't usually flat, it tilts so the right side is lower and gravity takes over. 

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else experience this?

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person, your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta, Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind or low vision diabetic





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From bernienfb75 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 15:34:42 2016
From: bernienfb75 at gmail.com (Bernadette Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:34:42 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Wow!! I'm so sorry this happened!! What I was trying to tell you and everyone else, is that often times this sharps thing very from state to state. In the state of Maryland, for example, you do not necessarily have to use actual sharps containers to dispose of your lancets, needles, and other waste that might injure someone. For example, I feel either a bleach bottle or vinegar bottle or some other bottle that has a relatively thick plastic so that it does not puncture. Once the bottle is full, I glue The bottle and tape it shut so that no one can get into it. This is allowed according to the state of Maryland. You do not necessarily need those red sharks containers. Some states, however, differ. Depends upon their laws for disposal of waste.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bernadette,
> 
> I wonder what you were trying to tell us?
> 
> Joy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:02 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets, 
>> which the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin 
>> cartridges do have a needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you 
>> have to recap it. I've never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets, 
>> and yes, the trash is thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I 
>> live alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the 
>> bags away, I make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will 
>> fall out, and then toss them into our trash compactor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>> 
>> Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent 
>> bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap 
>> and toss in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material 
>> hazardous to others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of
>> Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Classemt at aol.com
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>> 
>> How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela 
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> il.com actually, for my sharps, lancets, needle caps and such, I use either
> an old vinegar bottle or an old bleach bottle. Once I have it full, I take
> my husbands superglue from downstairs and swish it around the. Then I slept
> the On the bottle and nobody can get it open. Because by then, it's glues
> shot.
> 
> 
> Bern
> 
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From dandrews at visi.com  Tue Aug  2 21:38:20 2016
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:38:20 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
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Some mail programs, by default put your reply at the top of a message 
chain, others put it at the bottom.  And ... with some, you can 
configure this behavior.

In the blind community, the general custom is to top post, that is 
the reply is at the top, but on many other lists, they like bottom 
posting, or in-line posting, where there are snipets followed by your reply.

Dave

At 11:08 PM 8/1/2016, you wrote:
>Yeah, I didn't used to either. Then I realized that often the cursor moves,
>especially when emailing from a phone or other device, putting the text at
>the bottom. So when I see a blank email, especially on the list, I check at
>the end, grin.
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:04 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>
>Thanks, Bridget!  I never would have thought to look there.
>
>Joy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:46 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>
>The message is at the end of the thread.
>
>Bridgit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:37 PM
>To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>
>Hi Bernadette,
>
>I wonder what you were trying to tell us?
>
>Joy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:02 PM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via
> > Diabetes-Talk
><diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Since I use a pump, the only sharps I have to dispose of are lancets,
> > which the kind I use can be recapped, and I guess my insulin
> > cartridges do have a needle that attaches, but when you detach it, you
> > have to recap it. I've never thrown away uncapped syringes or lancets,
> > and yes, the trash is thoroughly tied up before it leaves the house.
> >
> > Bridgit
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 AM
> > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm the same way.  I can get away with it because I
> > live alone, noone else goes through my trash, and when I throw the
> > bags away, I make sure and tie them tightly closed so no sharps will
> > fall out, and then toss them into our trash compactor.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Tardif
> > Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:19 AM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> >
> > Technically, you're supposed to use something like an empty detergent
> > bottle to dispose of syringes and lancets, but I usually just recap
> > and toss in garbage. Plus, I use a pump now, so not a lot of material
> > hazardous to others. Anything else like strips or wipes, I just toss too.
> >
> > Bridgit
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Classemt--- via Diabetes-Talk
> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:31 PM
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Classemt at aol.com
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] sharps
> >
> > How does every one get rid of their sharps ans medical waste ?  Angela
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>il.com actually, for my sharps, lancets, needle caps and such, I use either
>an old vinegar bottle or an old bleach bottle. Once I have it full, I take
>my husbands superglue from downstairs and swish it around the. Then I slept
>the On the bottle and nobody can get it open. Because by then, it's glues
>shot.
>
>
>Bern




From everett at everettgavel.com  Tue Aug  2 22:41:06 2016
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:41:06 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
Message-ID: <004801d1ed0e$f5282930$df787b90$@everettgavel.com>

Hi Lissi, and All,

Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be
back and getting involved again, too. As for your
doc telling you to test 8 times a day, I'm not
sure what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to
want to tap your doctor upside his noggin?"
Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly
do it 8 times a day himself, y'know? Eight times?
Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and
comply with 4-5 tims a day. Of course, such
stubbornness is at least part of the reason I'm
blind, too. Live and learn, live and learn.
Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
Everett


----- original message ----- 
I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
For example, when it comes 
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard
they aren't making them 
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the
first time. To comply 
with his recommendations I should be sticking
myself 8 times a day and so 
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I
don't like thinking about 
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to
go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do
my morning glucose check 
and it's past noon.

Always with love,
Lissi






From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 23:47:39 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 18:47:39 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <004801d1ed0e$f5282930$df787b90$@everettgavel.com>
References: <004801d1ed0e$f5282930$df787b90$@everettgavel.com>
Message-ID: <01ce01d1ed18$4137a9a0$c3a6fce0$@gmail.com>

I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with diabetes
is the more you test, the better control you can have over glucose levels.
Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day is not
unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a doctor may want
you to test more frequently so they can better track trends and create a
fuller composite of what is happening throughout a day with your sugars.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Hi Lissi, and All,

Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting involved
again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a day, I'm not sure
what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to tap your doctor upside
his noggin?"
Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day
himself, y'know? Eight times?
Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 tims a
day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the reason I'm blind,
too. Live and learn, live and learn.
Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,
Lissi




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From dmgina at samobile.net  Wed Aug  3 01:25:00 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 21:25:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
Message-ID: <eff6820c.e846.4b21.80b7.4f28cc79c132@samobile.net>

I will have to do that again.
I find even though I eat a lite lunch it doesn't matter.
We from time to time will share a bag of pop corn.
It has 100 calories.
I also enjoy the no bake cookies with the oatmeal in them.
They also help me out with keeping on track with what you have to do.
We also have salads with chicken in them.
My sugars are over 200.
I test twice to make sure.
Now of course I thought the insulin was to be 20 units in the morning 
and 10 unit at night.
Where it needs to turn around.
So this evening I changed it around. They want to see if this would 
help the lowering of the numbers in the morning.
I feel good getting everything done I wish to do for the day.

Original message:
> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with diabetes
> is the more you test, the better control you can have over glucose levels.
> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day is not
> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a doctor may want
> you to test more frequently so they can better track trends and create a
> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a day with your sugars.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

> Hi Lissi, and All,

> Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting involved
> again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a day, I'm not sure
> what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to tap your doctor upside
> his noggin?"
> Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day
> himself, y'know? Eight times?
> Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 tims a
> day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the reason I'm blind,
> too. Live and learn, live and learn.
> Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


> Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
> Everett


> ----- original message -----
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
> For example, when it comes
> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
> anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
> with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
> far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
> it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
> and it's past noon.

> Always with love,
> Lissi




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 02:36:29 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 21:36:29 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <eff6820c.e846.4b21.80b7.4f28cc79c132@samobile.net>
References: <eff6820c.e846.4b21.80b7.4f28cc79c132@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <01f601d1ed2f$d7712f60$86538e20$@gmail.com>

No bake cookies are loaded with sugar. They are extremely high in carbs,
which raise glucose levels. If insulin dependent, you need to bolus when
eating baked goods like no-bake cookies. Popcorn actually is not all that
high in carbs. I believe a serving size is 3 cups of popped corn, but can't
remember the exact carb amount. For me, I do not need to bolus much when
eating popcorn. Veggies and protein do not have carbs, or enough carbs, to
affect glucose levels. If meat has a high-carb sauce like BBQ, then it will
affect sugars, but meat alone does not. So eating a lettuce salad with
grilled chicken would not require insulin, unless using a dressing high in
carbs, but even then, if sticking to the portion size for dressing, which is
2 tablespoons, it usually doesn't contain a ton of carbs. If running high in
the morning, it could also be what snack you are having before bed. If high
in carbs, likely it's contributing to high sugars in the morning. A good
bedtime snack should be low-carb and contain protein.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:25 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

I will have to do that again.
I find even though I eat a lite lunch it doesn't matter.
We from time to time will share a bag of pop corn.
It has 100 calories.
I also enjoy the no bake cookies with the oatmeal in them.
They also help me out with keeping on track with what you have to do.
We also have salads with chicken in them.
My sugars are over 200.
I test twice to make sure.
Now of course I thought the insulin was to be 20 units in the morning and 10
unit at night.
Where it needs to turn around.
So this evening I changed it around. They want to see if this would help the
lowering of the numbers in the morning.
I feel good getting everything done I wish to do for the day.

Original message:
> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with 
> diabetes is the more you test, the better control you can have over
glucose levels.
> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day is 
> not unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a 
> doctor may want you to test more frequently so they can better track 
> trends and create a fuller composite of what is happening throughout a day
with your sugars.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

> Hi Lissi, and All,

> Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting 
> involved again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a 
> day, I'm not sure what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to 
> tap your doctor upside his noggin?"
> Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day 
> himself, y'know? Eight times?
> Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 
> tims a day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the 
> reason I'm blind, too. Live and learn, live and learn.
> Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


> Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
> Everett


> ----- original message -----
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
> For example, when it comes
> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making 
> them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To 
> comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a 
> day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like 
> thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
> check and it's past noon.

> Always with love,
> Lissi




> _______________________________________________
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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Wed Aug  3 02:37:53 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:37:53 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <01ce01d1ed18$4137a9a0$c3a6fce0$@gmail.com>
References: <004801d1ed0e$f5282930$df787b90$@everettgavel.com>
	<01ce01d1ed18$4137a9a0$c3a6fce0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <34278C194A654EFFB98A103EC7AE4C49@mPC>

I feel very fortunate that I can test once a day, and my glucose levels have 
been quite good lately, around 109 and 110.  But most people I know with 
diabetes test at least twice a day, some more often than that.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:47 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with diabetes
is the more you test, the better control you can have over glucose levels.
Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day is not
unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a doctor may want
you to test more frequently so they can better track trends and create a
fuller composite of what is happening throughout a day with your sugars.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Hi Lissi, and All,

Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting involved
again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a day, I'm not sure
what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to tap your doctor upside
his noggin?"
Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day
himself, y'know? Eight times?
Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 tims a
day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the reason I'm blind,
too. Live and learn, live and learn.
Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,
Lissi




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From dmgina at samobile.net  Wed Aug  3 03:50:58 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (d m gina)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:50:58 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
Message-ID: <f664c58e.aa2e.4d3b.af18.19a35f73f085@samobile.net>

For the most part I still am a type two diabetic.
I just do the wow can't think of the name of the pin twice a day.
I thought with the oatmeal it would bring the sugar down.
In the winter months we eat oat meal all of the time for a hot cerial.
My sugars don't go up.
That was how I got mixed up.

Original message:
> No bake cookies are loaded with sugar. They are extremely high in carbs,
> which raise glucose levels. If insulin dependent, you need to bolus when
> eating baked goods like no-bake cookies. Popcorn actually is not all that
> high in carbs. I believe a serving size is 3 cups of popped corn, but can't
> remember the exact carb amount. For me, I do not need to bolus much when
> eating popcorn. Veggies and protein do not have carbs, or enough carbs, to
> affect glucose levels. If meat has a high-carb sauce like BBQ, then it will
> affect sugars, but meat alone does not. So eating a lettuce salad with
> grilled chicken would not require insulin, unless using a dressing high in
> carbs, but even then, if sticking to the portion size for dressing, which is
> 2 tablespoons, it usually doesn't contain a ton of carbs. If running high in
> the morning, it could also be what snack you are having before bed. If high
> in carbs, likely it's contributing to high sugars in the morning. A good
> bedtime snack should be low-carb and contain protein.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:25 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

> I will have to do that again.
> I find even though I eat a lite lunch it doesn't matter.
> We from time to time will share a bag of pop corn.
> It has 100 calories.
> I also enjoy the no bake cookies with the oatmeal in them.
> They also help me out with keeping on track with what you have to do.
> We also have salads with chicken in them.
> My sugars are over 200.
> I test twice to make sure.
> Now of course I thought the insulin was to be 20 units in the morning and 10
> unit at night.
> Where it needs to turn around.
> So this evening I changed it around. They want to see if this would help the
> lowering of the numbers in the morning.
> I feel good getting everything done I wish to do for the day.

> Original message:
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with
>> diabetes is the more you test, the better control you can have over
> glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day is
>> not unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a
>> doctor may want you to test more frequently so they can better track
>> trends and create a fuller composite of what is happening throughout a day
> with your sugars.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

>> Hi Lissi, and All,

>> Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting
>> involved again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a
>> day, I'm not sure what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to
>> tap your doctor upside his noggin?"
>> Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day
>> himself, y'know? Eight times?
>> Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5
>> tims a day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the
>> reason I'm blind, too. Live and learn, live and learn.
>> Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


>> Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
>> Everett


>> ----- original message -----
>> I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
>> For example, when it comes
>> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making
>> them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To
>> comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a
>> day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like
>> thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

>> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose
>> check and it's past noon.

>> Always with love,
>> Lissi




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From everett at everettgavel.com  Wed Aug  3 13:01:48 2016
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 07:01:48 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
Message-ID: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>

Hi Bridgit, and All,

I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)

I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
they had that 10-year study which showed that the
more you took your insulin per day, the better
long-term health you had. The ones who took it
once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
then having to stick myself for blood testing
multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
one way or another. 


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
<bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
Day?

I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
know for sure with diabetes
is the more you test, the better control you can
have over glucose levels.
Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
testing 8 times a day is not
unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
levels, a doctor may want
you to test more frequently so they can better
track trends and create a
fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
day with your sugars.

Bridgit





From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 14:21:25 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 09:21:25 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <34278C194A654EFFB98A103EC7AE4C49@mPC>
References: <004801d1ed0e$f5282930$df787b90$@everettgavel.com>	<01ce01d1ed18$4137a9a0$c3a6fce0$@gmail.com>
	<34278C194A654EFFB98A103EC7AE4C49@mPC>
Message-ID: <009501d1ed92$51d24d40$f576e7c0$@gmail.com>

Type 2s usually do not have to test more than 4 times a day. But type 1s
need to test more than that. Usually 5 times a day is the lowest amount
recommended for type 1s, but more is encouraged.

But if you only test once or twice a day, how do you know what glucose
levels are running throughout the day? How do you know how meals are
affecting glucose levels? How do you know how activity affects them? Just
because you wake up at a certain number does not mean that is what is
happening throughout the day. Glucose levels can rise and/or fall in the
course of a day, especially where meals are considered, and without testing,
you don't know what your numbers are or the best course of action. For
insulin dependent diabetics, these are crucial.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:38 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

I feel very fortunate that I can test once a day, and my glucose levels have
been quite good lately, around 109 and 110.  But most people I know with
diabetes test at least twice a day, some more often than that.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:47 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with diabetes
is the more you test, the better control you can have over glucose levels.
Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day is not
unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a doctor may want
you to test more frequently so they can better track trends and create a
fuller composite of what is happening throughout a day with your sugars.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Hi Lissi, and All,

Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting involved
again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a day, I'm not sure
what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to tap your doctor upside
his noggin?"
Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day
himself, y'know? Eight times?
Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 tims a
day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the reason I'm blind,
too. Live and learn, live and learn.
Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,
Lissi




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 14:34:11 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 09:34:11 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <f664c58e.aa2e.4d3b.af18.19a35f73f085@samobile.net>
References: <f664c58e.aa2e.4d3b.af18.19a35f73f085@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <009701d1ed94$1a24b110$4e6e1330$@gmail.com>

Oatmeal has carbs, even just regular cooked oatmeal. But no-bake cookies
have a lot of carbs because they have sugar. It's a baked item.

A half cup of cooked oatmeal has about 25 to 30 grams of carbs. This is over
the 15 grams of carbs in a single carb choice, so when eating oatmeal with
no fruit or sweetener, it would considered 1-1/2 to 2 carb choices, if
sticking with a 1/2 cup, which is a serving size. If eating more, the carbs
go up. So if eating a full cup of cooked oatmeal, you double the carbs.

A Google search shows no-baked cookies have 16 grams of carbs, making this
one carb choice. But it depends on how big the cookie is made. Size will
affect how many carbs are in it. In addition to oatmeal, no-baked cookies
also have sugar and peanut butter, which peanut butter is usually high in
sugar and carbs.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:51 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

For the most part I still am a type two diabetic.
I just do the wow can't think of the name of the pin twice a day.
I thought with the oatmeal it would bring the sugar down.
In the winter months we eat oat meal all of the time for a hot cerial.
My sugars don't go up.
That was how I got mixed up.

Original message:
> No bake cookies are loaded with sugar. They are extremely high in 
> carbs, which raise glucose levels. If insulin dependent, you need to 
> bolus when eating baked goods like no-bake cookies. Popcorn actually 
> is not all that high in carbs. I believe a serving size is 3 cups of 
> popped corn, but can't remember the exact carb amount. For me, I do 
> not need to bolus much when eating popcorn. Veggies and protein do not 
> have carbs, or enough carbs, to affect glucose levels. If meat has a 
> high-carb sauce like BBQ, then it will affect sugars, but meat alone 
> does not. So eating a lettuce salad with grilled chicken would not 
> require insulin, unless using a dressing high in carbs, but even then, 
> if sticking to the portion size for dressing, which is
> 2 tablespoons, it usually doesn't contain a ton of carbs. If running 
> high in the morning, it could also be what snack you are having before 
> bed. If high in carbs, likely it's contributing to high sugars in the 
> morning. A good bedtime snack should be low-carb and contain protein.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:25 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

> I will have to do that again.
> I find even though I eat a lite lunch it doesn't matter.
> We from time to time will share a bag of pop corn.
> It has 100 calories.
> I also enjoy the no bake cookies with the oatmeal in them.
> They also help me out with keeping on track with what you have to do.
> We also have salads with chicken in them.
> My sugars are over 200.
> I test twice to make sure.
> Now of course I thought the insulin was to be 20 units in the morning 
> and 10 unit at night.
> Where it needs to turn around.
> So this evening I changed it around. They want to see if this would 
> help the lowering of the numbers in the morning.
> I feel good getting everything done I wish to do for the day.

> Original message:
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with 
>> diabetes is the more you test, the better control you can have over
> glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day 
>> is not unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a 
>> doctor may want you to test more frequently so they can better track 
>> trends and create a fuller composite of what is happening throughout 
>> a day
> with your sugars.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

>> Hi Lissi, and All,

>> Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting 
>> involved again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a 
>> day, I'm not sure what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to 
>> tap your doctor upside his noggin?"
>> Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day 
>> himself, y'know? Eight times?
>> Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 
>> tims a day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the 
>> reason I'm blind, too. Live and learn, live and learn.
>> Usually the hard way, though. ;-)


>> Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
>> Everett


>> ----- original message -----
>> I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
>> For example, when it comes
>> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making 
>> them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. 
>> To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 
>> times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I 
>> don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way
to go!

>> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
>> check and it's past noon.

>> Always with love,
>> Lissi




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From Classemt at aol.com  Wed Aug  3 18:29:47 2016
From: Classemt at aol.com (Classemt at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:29:47 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes list
Message-ID: <376c4.37a4285e.44d3921b@aol.com>

please combine all e mails in to 1 Angela Perone 

From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug  3 19:57:36 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:57:36 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes list
In-Reply-To: <376c4.37a4285e.44d3921b@aol.com>
References: <376c4.37a4285e.44d3921b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008101d1edc1$49584e10$dc08ea30$@panix.com>

Angela:

You can do this yourself by getting your list password from the monthly NFB
posing of such password and then selecting "digest mode" once you get into
your list control page.

Frankly, I would *not* advise going into digest mode; this list isn't
sufficiently high-traffic in my estimation to warrant having one email sent
and then having to wade down through it to find individual messages.

Mike Freeman


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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes list

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From dmgina at samobile.net  Thu Aug  4 02:11:15 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (dar)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 20:11:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <009701d1ed94$1a24b110$4e6e1330$@gmail.com>
References: <f664c58e.aa2e.4d3b.af18.19a35f73f085@samobile.net>
	<009701d1ed94$1a24b110$4e6e1330$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6150CFF-9AE6-470B-9E19-CE7C694D0456@samobile.net>

I do oat meal with one slice of toast. I am allowed 45 carbs per meal. 
I do watch how to do the serving size. 
Thanks for your help. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:34 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Oatmeal has carbs, even just regular cooked oatmeal. But no-bake cookies
> have a lot of carbs because they have sugar. It's a baked item.
> 
> A half cup of cooked oatmeal has about 25 to 30 grams of carbs. This is over
> the 15 grams of carbs in a single carb choice, so when eating oatmeal with
> no fruit or sweetener, it would considered 1-1/2 to 2 carb choices, if
> sticking with a 1/2 cup, which is a serving size. If eating more, the carbs
> go up. So if eating a full cup of cooked oatmeal, you double the carbs.
> 
> A Google search shows no-baked cookies have 16 grams of carbs, making this
> one carb choice. But it depends on how big the cookie is made. Size will
> affect how many carbs are in it. In addition to oatmeal, no-baked cookies
> also have sugar and peanut butter, which peanut butter is usually high in
> sugar and carbs.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:51 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> For the most part I still am a type two diabetic.
> I just do the wow can't think of the name of the pin twice a day.
> I thought with the oatmeal it would bring the sugar down.
> In the winter months we eat oat meal all of the time for a hot cerial.
> My sugars don't go up.
> That was how I got mixed up.
> 
> Original message:
>> No bake cookies are loaded with sugar. They are extremely high in 
>> carbs, which raise glucose levels. If insulin dependent, you need to 
>> bolus when eating baked goods like no-bake cookies. Popcorn actually 
>> is not all that high in carbs. I believe a serving size is 3 cups of 
>> popped corn, but can't remember the exact carb amount. For me, I do 
>> not need to bolus much when eating popcorn. Veggies and protein do not 
>> have carbs, or enough carbs, to affect glucose levels. If meat has a 
>> high-carb sauce like BBQ, then it will affect sugars, but meat alone 
>> does not. So eating a lettuce salad with grilled chicken would not 
>> require insulin, unless using a dressing high in carbs, but even then, 
>> if sticking to the portion size for dressing, which is
>> 2 tablespoons, it usually doesn't contain a ton of carbs. If running 
>> high in the morning, it could also be what snack you are having before 
>> bed. If high in carbs, likely it's contributing to high sugars in the 
>> morning. A good bedtime snack should be low-carb and contain protein.
> 
>> Bridgit
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:25 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
>> I will have to do that again.
>> I find even though I eat a lite lunch it doesn't matter.
>> We from time to time will share a bag of pop corn.
>> It has 100 calories.
>> I also enjoy the no bake cookies with the oatmeal in them.
>> They also help me out with keeping on track with what you have to do.
>> We also have salads with chicken in them.
>> My sugars are over 200.
>> I test twice to make sure.
>> Now of course I thought the insulin was to be 20 units in the morning 
>> and 10 unit at night.
>> Where it needs to turn around.
>> So this evening I changed it around. They want to see if this would 
>> help the lowering of the numbers in the morning.
>> I feel good getting everything done I wish to do for the day.
> 
>> Original message:
>>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with 
>>> diabetes is the more you test, the better control you can have over
>> glucose levels.
>>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day 
>>> is not unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a 
>>> doctor may want you to test more frequently so they can better track 
>>> trends and create a fuller composite of what is happening throughout 
>>> a day
>> with your sugars.
> 
>>> Bridgit
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:41 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
>>> Hi Lissi, and All,
> 
>>> Glad to have you back on the list. I'm glad to be back and getting 
>>> involved again, too. As for your doc telling you to test 8 times a 
>>> day, I'm not sure what to say to that except, "Is it wrong to want to 
>>> tap your doctor upside his noggin?"
>>> Sheesh. I wonder if he had to, would he honestly do it 8 times a day 
>>> himself, y'know? Eight times?
>>> Bah humbug to that. It took me years to accept and comply with 4-5 
>>> tims a day. Of course, such stubbornness is at least part of the 
>>> reason I'm blind, too. Live and learn, live and learn.
>>> Usually the hard way, though. ;-)
> 
> 
>>> Strive On Indeed, Lissi, Strive On!
>>> Everett
> 
> 
>>> ----- original message -----
>>> I rejoined the list because I need help myself.
>>> For example, when it comes
>>> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making 
>>> them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. 
>>> To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 
>>> times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I 
>>> don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way
> to go!
> 
>>> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
>>> check and it's past noon.
> 
>>> Always with love,
>>> Lissi
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
>> --
>> --Dar
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>> every sinner has a future
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From dmgina at samobile.net  Thu Aug  4 02:17:57 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (dar)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 20:17:57 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>
Message-ID: <A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>

I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay for the pump. 
So that took care of that. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bridgit, and All,
> 
> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
> 
> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
> more you took your insulin per day, the better
> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
> then having to stick myself for blood testing
> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
> one way or another. 
> 
> 
> Strive On!
> Everett
> 
> 
> ----- original message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
> Day?
> 
> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
> know for sure with diabetes
> is the more you test, the better control you can
> have over glucose levels.
> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
> testing 8 times a day is not
> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
> levels, a doctor may want
> you to test more frequently so they can better
> track trends and create a
> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
> day with your sugars.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Aug  4 02:43:22 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 19:43:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>
	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <001201d1edf9$f7c15fe0$e7441fa0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Wow! I've never heard that. I've always heard that you need to show a high
A1C for some insurance companies and that's ridiculous too. I really thought
that pumps were so standard now that most insurance companies were not so
silly. Now, CGM? They're still stupid about that one. I had to lie on my
form to get it but in the long-run, I'm probably going to save them a bunch
of money just from better control. And hey, one of these days, I might even
decrease my blood pressure when I get control of the tape. <laughing!> 
Actually, today I got the tape almost wrinkle free and what do I do? I
miscalculated by a couple of inches as to where it landed so the edge of my
underwear was rubbing and curling up the edge of the tape. So now there's an
extra piece of Tegaderm on top. Oh it's going to be an interesting week!
But I do think I test more with the Dexcom because I get curious and
compare. I'm quite surprised at how much it's helped my attitude about my
numbers. Seeing so much, I find I'm actually much kinder to myself about
what happens. I just fix things. I do wish I'd had something like this a
long time ago. It would still be fine with me if they made some design
changes in the device itself but I'll take what there is for now and use it.
And all I have to do is try not to catch the transmitter on the drawer knob
that is right in the way when I stand at the kitchen sink. <grin> 
I really believe the best treatment for any of us is the one we'll do!
Here's to getting our needs met and quality of life prolonged!
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: dar
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay
for the pump. 
So that took care of that. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bridgit, and All,
> 
> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
> 
> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
> more you took your insulin per day, the better
> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
> then having to stick myself for blood testing
> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
> one way or another. 
> 
> 
> Strive On!
> Everett
> 
> 
> ----- original message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
> Day?
> 
> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
> know for sure with diabetes
> is the more you test, the better control you can
> have over glucose levels.
> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
> testing 8 times a day is not
> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
> levels, a doctor may want
> you to test more frequently so they can better
> track trends and create a
> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
> day with your sugars.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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Diabetes-Talk:
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 15:06:38 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:06:38 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>
	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>

I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on a
pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is higher,
it can be easier to get on a pump.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay
for the pump. 
So that took care of that. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bridgit, and All,
> 
> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
> 
> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
> more you took your insulin per day, the better
> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
> then having to stick myself for blood testing
> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
> one way or another. 
> 
> 
> Strive On!
> Everett
> 
> 
> ----- original message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
> Day?
> 
> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
> know for sure with diabetes
> is the more you test, the better control you can
> have over glucose levels.
> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
> testing 8 times a day is not
> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
> levels, a doctor may want
> you to test more frequently so they can better
> track trends and create a
> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
> day with your sugars.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Diabetes-Talk:
>
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 16:16:00 2016
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:16:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
Message-ID: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 



From dmgina at samobile.net  Thu Aug  4 16:23:50 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (dar)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:23:50 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>
	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>
	<01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28894CE5-7037-4617-8EF0-A18D6B17FFA8@samobile.net>

If the a one c is higher as a type one is that what you are saying! 
At this time I can't yes! 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on a
> pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is higher,
> it can be easier to get on a pump.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay
> for the pump. 
> So that took care of that. 
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past, 
> Every sinner has a future 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bridgit, and All,
>> 
>> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
>> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
>> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
>> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
>> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
>> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
>> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
>> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
>> 
>> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
>> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
>> more you took your insulin per day, the better
>> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
>> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
>> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
>> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
>> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
>> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
>> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
>> then having to stick myself for blood testing
>> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
>> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
>> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
>> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
>> one way or another. 
>> 
>> 
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message ----- 
>> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
>> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
>> Day?
>> 
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
>> know for sure with diabetes
>> is the more you test, the better control you can
>> have over glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
>> testing 8 times a day is not
>> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
>> levels, a doctor may want
>> you to test more frequently so they can better
>> track trends and create a
>> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
>> day with your sugars.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
>> 
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> .net
> 
> 
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Aug  4 16:57:58 2016
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:57:58 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes list
In-Reply-To: <376c4.37a4285e.44d3921b@aol.com>
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Are you asking to be put on digest mode?

Dave

At 01:29 PM 8/3/2016, you wrote:
>please combine all e mails in to 1 Angela Perone




From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Aug  4 17:04:46 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:04:46 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
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Hi Walter!
First, welcome. There are some articles and book chapters that talk a bit
about pumps. I don't know specifically what's in the book "Bridging the gap"
on the NFB web site. But for starters I will tackle the questions you asked
here.

Your questions:

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.
Answer: Your pump is not in plain view. It's a small device which you hide
under your clothing if you want. I have a little waist band and the pump is
hidden under my top, but easily grabbable when I want it. These days with
everyone carrying phones and such in their pockets, nobody will notice so
you won't need to take it off other than during a shower.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.
Answer: What the pump delivers is insulin. So if you're taking something
like Victoza, you would use the pen separately for that. You and your doctor
would decide about any oral meds you'd take in combination with the insulin.
But if on the pump, you would no longer need to use long-acting insulin. The
pump only uses short-acting because it's constantly delivering insulin to
you.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?
Answer. Non, really. I do take my pump off if I swim. So other than super
deep water activities, you'd just do your normal life.

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?
Answer: In the pump itself you place a cartridge which contains insulin.
Different pumps carry different amounts of insulin. Pump cartridges can hold
from 200 to 315 units of insulin. You can definitely fill a cartridge
yourself. You drop the cartridge inside the pump. Then you attach tubing to
the top of the cartridge. This tubing connects to what's called a cannula,
which is a little bitty thing inserted into, well, you. So then when you
program the pump to deliver insulin, it's carried through the tubing and
goes into you. You don't feel it either. 
In your business example, what I like most about a pump, well, one of the
things I like most is the ability to be at a luncheon and stand in line,
then just push a button quickly so I get the amount of insulin I need to
cover the food I'm eating. Then if an hour later someone suggests going for
coffee to close a sale or something, no big deal. I don't have to grab stuff
and inject in front of a client. I do know some type II's who use the pump
as long-acting insulin because they don't take short-acting insulin for
meals. If that's you and you require a set dose of insulin each day, there's
a patch that just goes against your abdomen and nobody will know a thing.
Anyway, that's the intro for you. I hope it helps and feel free to ask any
questions you want. We all joined this list at one time so it's no big deal
if things get repeated a bit. <grin>
Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Thu Aug  4 17:04:25 2016
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:04:25 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <83A2BC6F381F48C584A0AF46B4A279B6@eileen>

Walter, 

There unfortunately isn?t a Pump User?s Guide for Dummies, but asking questions and talking with other blind diabetics who use pumps is a good resource as well as talking with your diabetic doctor and diabetic educator.

I?ve been using a Medtronics pump for the last two and a half years now.  And I started by asking people on this list if I could talk with them on the phone.  Veronica Elsa & Vinny Chainey were both very helpful and informative.  I also asked my diabetic educator about what pumps might be good ones to investigate.  I had also called a few pump manufacturers and asked if they could come to my home to show me their pumps.  The pumps are expensive devices and I think many companies will be willing to send a rep to meet with you.  If you?re more comfortable, you could meet with them with your CDE in the doctor?s office.  You can ask them to show you the pump and show you how it is filled and used.

Of course, what pumps you can get will depend on your insurance, unless money isn?t a problem and you don?t mind paying out of pocket what insurance will not cover. 

As for how insulin delivery through a pump will interact with your type 2 meds is a question better left to your doctor & CDE team.  

You can disconnect pumps and re-attach them when you need to, or settings can be made for certain times of the day when you might run lower BG numbers and the rate of delivery can be altered.  As for disconnecting during a meeting, the pump is so small you can easily wear one and no one will even know you have it on.  There are different ways to clip them on or pouches you can buy that will hold and hide them from public viewing.

Its an important & personal decision, so if you need more information or want to ask any more questions about pumping, I?d be happy to talk with you.  If you want to talk, write me off-list and I can send you my phone number or email me your number and I can call you.

Good luck.

Eileen
. 

From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org 
Cc: Walter Mitchell 
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 17:58:31 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:58:31 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <021f01d1ee79$d05af350$7110d9f0$@gmail.com>

The pump is intended to deliver insulin only, so if not insulin dependent,
you don't need a pump. Yes, you can detach the pump, but only for short
periods of time. Without it on, you are not receiving insulin and would get
high sugars. The pumps are not super noticeable, especially if you stick
with neutral colors like black. I like color, so mine is pink, and I have a
purple skin and a pink leopard skin for it, grin. But you can attach it to
your waist band or pocket, or some users wear it inside their clothes. No
activities are off limits. I just did a triathlon, which is a pretty intense
activity. As long as you're adhering to a proper diet and testing regularly,
nothing is off limits. You fill the cartridges with insulin that are loaded
into the pump. Some blind diabetics fill their own. I do in a pinch, but I
prefer to have someone sighted fill mine, so I ask family or friends.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 18:00:05 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:00:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <28894CE5-7037-4617-8EF0-A18D6B17FFA8@samobile.net>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>	<01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>
	<28894CE5-7037-4617-8EF0-A18D6B17FFA8@samobile.net>
Message-ID: <000401d1ee7a$0821f900$1865eb00$@gmail.com>

Only type ones use insulin pumps. I've never heard of a type two, even an
insulin dependent one, using a pump, though I suppose they could. But if
type one, you qualify for a pump, no matter your A1-C.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

If the a one c is higher as a type one is that what you are saying! 
At this time I can't yes! 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on a
> pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is
higher,
> it can be easier to get on a pump.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay
> for the pump. 
> So that took care of that. 
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past, 
> Every sinner has a future 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bridgit, and All,
>> 
>> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
>> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
>> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
>> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
>> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
>> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
>> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
>> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
>> 
>> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
>> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
>> more you took your insulin per day, the better
>> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
>> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
>> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
>> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
>> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
>> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
>> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
>> then having to stick myself for blood testing
>> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
>> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
>> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
>> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
>> one way or another. 
>> 
>> 
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message ----- 
>> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
>> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
>> Day?
>> 
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
>> know for sure with diabetes
>> is the more you test, the better control you can
>> have over glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
>> testing 8 times a day is not
>> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
>> levels, a doctor may want
>> you to test more frequently so they can better
>> track trends and create a
>> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
>> day with your sugars.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 18:22:55 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:22:55 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <009a01d1ee72$4d8a5990$e89f0cb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
	<009a01d1ee72$4d8a5990$e89f0cb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <000901d1ee7d$38f0e890$aad2b9b0$@gmail.com>

I also like how with pumps you have basal rates set up throughout the day.
So every hour, or even half hour if necessary, you can have different
amounts of insulin delivered. It depends on your insulin needs.

For example, between midnight and 5 am, I have .5 units delivered each hour.
>From 5 am to 9 am, I have .7 units delivered. Starting at 9 am until noon, I
have .75 units. At noon until 5 pm, it's .8, and from 5 to midnight, it's
.85 every hour. I can change these rates if necessary, which happens from
time-to-time. But I like that with a pump, my insulin delivery is more
customized throughout the day. It fits my individual needs. And you can set
several basal patterns that you can switch between. For instance, when doing
triathlon training, I switch to a pattern that delivers lower rates than my
normal pattern. I have another pattern that delivers higher rates for when
sick or something. It's a bit more sophisticated than injecting a
long-lasting insulin that delivers the same amount throughout the day.

I also swim, and I've been told for every hour I'm off the pump, to bolus
one unit. I usually swim for an hour to hour-and-a -half. Since not longer,
I test before bolusing and determine if I need it or not.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hi Walter!
First, welcome. There are some articles and book chapters that talk a bit
about pumps. I don't know specifically what's in the book "Bridging the gap"
on the NFB web site. But for starters I will tackle the questions you asked
here.

Your questions:

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.
Answer: Your pump is not in plain view. It's a small device which you hide
under your clothing if you want. I have a little waist band and the pump is
hidden under my top, but easily grabbable when I want it. These days with
everyone carrying phones and such in their pockets, nobody will notice so
you won't need to take it off other than during a shower.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.
Answer: What the pump delivers is insulin. So if you're taking something
like Victoza, you would use the pen separately for that. You and your doctor
would decide about any oral meds you'd take in combination with the insulin.
But if on the pump, you would no longer need to use long-acting insulin. The
pump only uses short-acting because it's constantly delivering insulin to
you.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?
Answer. Non, really. I do take my pump off if I swim. So other than super
deep water activities, you'd just do your normal life.

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?
Answer: In the pump itself you place a cartridge which contains insulin.
Different pumps carry different amounts of insulin. Pump cartridges can hold
from 200 to 315 units of insulin. You can definitely fill a cartridge
yourself. You drop the cartridge inside the pump. Then you attach tubing to
the top of the cartridge. This tubing connects to what's called a cannula,
which is a little bitty thing inserted into, well, you. So then when you
program the pump to deliver insulin, it's carried through the tubing and
goes into you. You don't feel it either. 
In your business example, what I like most about a pump, well, one of the
things I like most is the ability to be at a luncheon and stand in line,
then just push a button quickly so I get the amount of insulin I need to
cover the food I'm eating. Then if an hour later someone suggests going for
coffee to close a sale or something, no big deal. I don't have to grab stuff
and inject in front of a client. I do know some type II's who use the pump
as long-acting insulin because they don't take short-acting insulin for
meals. If that's you and you require a set dose of insulin each day, there's
a patch that just goes against your abdomen and nobody will know a thing.
Anyway, that's the intro for you. I hope it helps and feel free to ask any
questions you want. We all joined this list at one time so it's no big deal
if things get repeated a bit. <grin> Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 18:37:13 2016
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:37:13 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <000901d1ee7d$38f0e890$aad2b9b0$@gmail.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
	<009a01d1ee72$4d8a5990$e89f0cb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<000901d1ee7d$38f0e890$aad2b9b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007a01d1ee7f$388d32d0$a9a79870$@gmail.com>

Thank you all for your responses. You have given me some things to research.
The information that you provide is not just for me, my mother is also a
diabetic and is elderly. I will be able to advise her with the information
you all provide.

This list is well worth the few minutes it takes to sign up for it. I hope
to get others involved.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
 (513) 582-8606 Mobil
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

Twitter @ohnfb, 
YouTube channel NFB OHIO



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

I also like how with pumps you have basal rates set up throughout the day.
So every hour, or even half hour if necessary, you can have different
amounts of insulin delivered. It depends on your insulin needs.

For example, between midnight and 5 am, I have .5 units delivered each hour.
>From 5 am to 9 am, I have .7 units delivered. Starting at 9 am until noon, I
have .75 units. At noon until 5 pm, it's .8, and from 5 to midnight, it's
.85 every hour. I can change these rates if necessary, which happens from
time-to-time. But I like that with a pump, my insulin delivery is more
customized throughout the day. It fits my individual needs. And you can set
several basal patterns that you can switch between. For instance, when doing
triathlon training, I switch to a pattern that delivers lower rates than my
normal pattern. I have another pattern that delivers higher rates for when
sick or something. It's a bit more sophisticated than injecting a
long-lasting insulin that delivers the same amount throughout the day.

I also swim, and I've been told for every hour I'm off the pump, to bolus
one unit. I usually swim for an hour to hour-and-a -half. Since not longer,
I test before bolusing and determine if I need it or not.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hi Walter!
First, welcome. There are some articles and book chapters that talk a bit
about pumps. I don't know specifically what's in the book "Bridging the gap"
on the NFB web site. But for starters I will tackle the questions you asked
here.

Your questions:

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.
Answer: Your pump is not in plain view. It's a small device which you hide
under your clothing if you want. I have a little waist band and the pump is
hidden under my top, but easily grabbable when I want it. These days with
everyone carrying phones and such in their pockets, nobody will notice so
you won't need to take it off other than during a shower.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.
Answer: What the pump delivers is insulin. So if you're taking something
like Victoza, you would use the pen separately for that. You and your doctor
would decide about any oral meds you'd take in combination with the insulin.
But if on the pump, you would no longer need to use long-acting insulin. The
pump only uses short-acting because it's constantly delivering insulin to
you.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?
Answer. Non, really. I do take my pump off if I swim. So other than super
deep water activities, you'd just do your normal life.

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?
Answer: In the pump itself you place a cartridge which contains insulin.
Different pumps carry different amounts of insulin. Pump cartridges can hold
from 200 to 315 units of insulin. You can definitely fill a cartridge
yourself. You drop the cartridge inside the pump. Then you attach tubing to
the top of the cartridge. This tubing connects to what's called a cannula,
which is a little bitty thing inserted into, well, you. So then when you
program the pump to deliver insulin, it's carried through the tubing and
goes into you. You don't feel it either. 
In your business example, what I like most about a pump, well, one of the
things I like most is the ability to be at a luncheon and stand in line,
then just push a button quickly so I get the amount of insulin I need to
cover the food I'm eating. Then if an hour later someone suggests going for
coffee to close a sale or something, no big deal. I don't have to grab stuff
and inject in front of a client. I do know some type II's who use the pump
as long-acting insulin because they don't take short-acting insulin for
meals. If that's you and you require a set dose of insulin each day, there's
a patch that just goes against your abdomen and nobody will know a thing.
Anyway, that's the intro for you. I hope it helps and feel free to ask any
questions you want. We all joined this list at one time so it's no big deal
if things get repeated a bit. <grin> Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From TALey at ups.com  Thu Aug  4 18:56:53 2016
From: TALey at ups.com (TALey at ups.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:56:53 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Triathlon
Message-ID: <030ba5c1cd2e42d0972a884576e37a49@SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>

Hi Bridgit, 

Many on this list may be interested about the techniques you use to accomplish the triathlon - running, biking, swimming, when you are blind. 

Physical activity is great for everyone, and even more so for people with diabetes. Often, vision loss results in people being less active, but it doesn't have to be that way. So, if you don't mind, tell us how you run, bike, and swim without hurting yourself, or others (smile). 

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:59 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

The pump is intended to deliver insulin only, so if not insulin dependent, you don't need a pump. Yes, you can detach the pump, but only for short periods of time. Without it on, you are not receiving insulin and would get high sugars. The pumps are not super noticeable, especially if you stick with neutral colors like black. I like color, so mine is pink, and I have a purple skin and a pink leopard skin for it, grin. But you can attach it to your waist band or pocket, or some users wear it inside their clothes. No activities are off limits. I just did a triathlon, which is a pretty intense activity. As long as you're adhering to a proper diet and testing regularly, nothing is off limits. You fill the cartridges with insulin that are loaded into the pump. Some blind diabetics fill their own. I do in a pinch, but I prefer to have someone sighted fill mine, so I ask family or friends.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 19:27:28 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:27:28 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Triathlon
In-Reply-To: <030ba5c1cd2e42d0972a884576e37a49@SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>
References: <030ba5c1cd2e42d0972a884576e37a49@SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>
Message-ID: <004601d1ee86$3d9cf560$b8d6e020$@gmail.com>

Tom,

No problem.

I used to swim and run competively in my teens and early twenties. I was
sighted then. When I lost my sight at 22, I didn't stop exercising. I go to
the gym or powerwalk/jog around the neighborhood or use my elliptical at
home. For me, I've not noticed a major difference in doing activity as a
blind person than from when I was sighted. The physical movement is exactly
the same. We are doing all the same movements as a sighted person, we just
may use a different tool or method to accomplish it safely.

For running, I just use my cane when on my own. I jog or run while caning. I
prefer a running/walking trail or track when doing this because usually they
are wider and smoother than a sidewalk or the street. When running with my
partner, we use a tether to attach us. Our coach for our triathlon team
created these poles for us to use. She holds onto the front, and I'm in the
back, so I am basically following behind her. The poles have enough distance
between us so we do not run into one another. Most blind runners use a
bungee tether that connects at the waist or hip or upper thigh.

Again, when swimming on my own, not a problem. I go to the Y where there are
roped off lanes. So it's easy to stay in your lane because you have ropes on
either side. Swim is my forte. I'm a pretty good swimmer. For the triathlon,
during practice, we just swam in our own lanes, but during the tri itself,
we swam in a lake, so we were tethered together. Again, the tether allows
you to keep orientation without running into your partner.

For biking, we used a tandem bike. Our bike is an actual tandem racing bike.

This was my first triathlon in 20 years, so it took a lot of training and
conditioning. I exercise about 40 minutes a day 4 to 5 times a week at
least, but tri training is intense. It took some getting back into the
practice, especially for running. My body just wasn't used to that type of
activity. I found out I was pregnant the last two weeks of training, so it
may things a little difficult. I'm having a hormonal thing that affects my
breathing right now. I went from doing fine to struggling to breathe during
certain activities, especially swim. And on top of that, morning sickness,
which for me is all day sickness, LOL! But I made it through. I didn't do as
well as I would have liked, but in my age bracket, which is 30 to 40, I was
the 14th female to cross the finish line, which isn't too bad. I think there
was a total of 30 women in my age bracket. About 200 people total competed.
I plan to do it again next year.

If you need clarifications, please, ask. Also, the Sports and Rec division
has a listserve, so anyone interested in more, or has questions about other
activities, that's a great resource.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:57 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: TALey at ups.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Triathlon

Hi Bridgit, 

Many on this list may be interested about the techniques you use to
accomplish the triathlon - running, biking, swimming, when you are blind. 

Physical activity is great for everyone, and even more so for people with
diabetes. Often, vision loss results in people being less active, but it
doesn't have to be that way. So, if you don't mind, tell us how you run,
bike, and swim without hurting yourself, or others (smile). 

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:59 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

The pump is intended to deliver insulin only, so if not insulin dependent,
you don't need a pump. Yes, you can detach the pump, but only for short
periods of time. Without it on, you are not receiving insulin and would get
high sugars. The pumps are not super noticeable, especially if you stick
with neutral colors like black. I like color, so mine is pink, and I have a
purple skin and a pink leopard skin for it, grin. But you can attach it to
your waist band or pocket, or some users wear it inside their clothes. No
activities are off limits. I just did a triathlon, which is a pretty intense
activity. As long as you're adhering to a proper diet and testing regularly,
nothing is off limits. You fill the cartridges with insulin that are loaded
into the pump. Some blind diabetics fill their own. I do in a pinch, but I
prefer to have someone sighted fill mine, so I ask family or friends.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Aug  4 21:37:57 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:37:57 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <007a01d1ee7f$388d32d0$a9a79870$@gmail.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>	<009a01d1ee72$4d8a5990$e89f0cb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<000901d1ee7d$38f0e890$aad2b9b0$@gmail.com>
	<007a01d1ee7f$388d32d0$a9a79870$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003a01d1ee98$77584bd0$6608e370$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Oh there are lots of type two's using pumps today. I met a ton of them when
I exhibited at the AADE conference. I actually think I'm about due for
another round of basal testing because there are spots where I think I might
not have the optimum setting right now. 
Veronica


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Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:37 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Thank you all for your responses. You have given me some things to research.
The information that you provide is not just for me, my mother is also a
diabetic and is elderly. I will be able to advise her with the information
you all provide.

This list is well worth the few minutes it takes to sign up for it. I hope
to get others involved.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
 (513) 582-8606 Mobil
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

Twitter @ohnfb, 
YouTube channel NFB OHIO



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

I also like how with pumps you have basal rates set up throughout the day.
So every hour, or even half hour if necessary, you can have different
amounts of insulin delivered. It depends on your insulin needs.

For example, between midnight and 5 am, I have .5 units delivered each hour.
>From 5 am to 9 am, I have .7 units delivered. Starting at 9 am until noon, I
have .75 units. At noon until 5 pm, it's .8, and from 5 to midnight, it's
.85 every hour. I can change these rates if necessary, which happens from
time-to-time. But I like that with a pump, my insulin delivery is more
customized throughout the day. It fits my individual needs. And you can set
several basal patterns that you can switch between. For instance, when doing
triathlon training, I switch to a pattern that delivers lower rates than my
normal pattern. I have another pattern that delivers higher rates for when
sick or something. It's a bit more sophisticated than injecting a
long-lasting insulin that delivers the same amount throughout the day.

I also swim, and I've been told for every hour I'm off the pump, to bolus
one unit. I usually swim for an hour to hour-and-a -half. Since not longer,
I test before bolusing and determine if I need it or not.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hi Walter!
First, welcome. There are some articles and book chapters that talk a bit
about pumps. I don't know specifically what's in the book "Bridging the gap"
on the NFB web site. But for starters I will tackle the questions you asked
here.

Your questions:

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.
Answer: Your pump is not in plain view. It's a small device which you hide
under your clothing if you want. I have a little waist band and the pump is
hidden under my top, but easily grabbable when I want it. These days with
everyone carrying phones and such in their pockets, nobody will notice so
you won't need to take it off other than during a shower.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.
Answer: What the pump delivers is insulin. So if you're taking something
like Victoza, you would use the pen separately for that. You and your doctor
would decide about any oral meds you'd take in combination with the insulin.
But if on the pump, you would no longer need to use long-acting insulin. The
pump only uses short-acting because it's constantly delivering insulin to
you.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?
Answer. Non, really. I do take my pump off if I swim. So other than super
deep water activities, you'd just do your normal life.

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?
Answer: In the pump itself you place a cartridge which contains insulin.
Different pumps carry different amounts of insulin. Pump cartridges can hold
from 200 to 315 units of insulin. You can definitely fill a cartridge
yourself. You drop the cartridge inside the pump. Then you attach tubing to
the top of the cartridge. This tubing connects to what's called a cannula,
which is a little bitty thing inserted into, well, you. So then when you
program the pump to deliver insulin, it's carried through the tubing and
goes into you. You don't feel it either. 
In your business example, what I like most about a pump, well, one of the
things I like most is the ability to be at a luncheon and stand in line,
then just push a button quickly so I get the amount of insulin I need to
cover the food I'm eating. Then if an hour later someone suggests going for
coffee to close a sale or something, no big deal. I don't have to grab stuff
and inject in front of a client. I do know some type II's who use the pump
as long-acting insulin because they don't take short-acting insulin for
meals. If that's you and you require a set dose of insulin each day, there's
a patch that just goes against your abdomen and nobody will know a thing.
Anyway, that's the intro for you. I hope it helps and feel free to ask any
questions you want. We all joined this list at one time so it's no big deal
if things get repeated a bit. <grin> Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 21:41:53 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:41:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <003a01d1ee98$77584bd0$6608e370$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>	<009a01d1ee72$4d8a5990$e89f0cb0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<000901d1ee7d$38f0e890$aad2b9b0$@gmail.com>	<007a01d1ee7f$388d32d0$a9a79870$@gmail.com>
	<003a01d1ee98$77584bd0$6608e370$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <007f01d1ee99$04809e40$0d81dac0$@gmail.com>

Like I said, I don't see why a type 2 using insulin couldn't use a pump, I
just personally have never known a type 2 who uses one.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:38 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Oh there are lots of type two's using pumps today. I met a ton of them when
I exhibited at the AADE conference. I actually think I'm about due for
another round of basal testing because there are spots where I think I might
not have the optimum setting right now. 
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:37 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Thank you all for your responses. You have given me some things to research.
The information that you provide is not just for me, my mother is also a
diabetic and is elderly. I will be able to advise her with the information
you all provide.

This list is well worth the few minutes it takes to sign up for it. I hope
to get others involved.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
 (513) 582-8606 Mobil
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

Twitter @ohnfb,
YouTube channel NFB OHIO



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

I also like how with pumps you have basal rates set up throughout the day.
So every hour, or even half hour if necessary, you can have different
amounts of insulin delivered. It depends on your insulin needs.

For example, between midnight and 5 am, I have .5 units delivered each hour.
>From 5 am to 9 am, I have .7 units delivered. Starting at 9 am until noon, I
have .75 units. At noon until 5 pm, it's .8, and from 5 to midnight, it's
.85 every hour. I can change these rates if necessary, which happens from
time-to-time. But I like that with a pump, my insulin delivery is more
customized throughout the day. It fits my individual needs. And you can set
several basal patterns that you can switch between. For instance, when doing
triathlon training, I switch to a pattern that delivers lower rates than my
normal pattern. I have another pattern that delivers higher rates for when
sick or something. It's a bit more sophisticated than injecting a
long-lasting insulin that delivers the same amount throughout the day.

I also swim, and I've been told for every hour I'm off the pump, to bolus
one unit. I usually swim for an hour to hour-and-a -half. Since not longer,
I test before bolusing and determine if I need it or not.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hi Walter!
First, welcome. There are some articles and book chapters that talk a bit
about pumps. I don't know specifically what's in the book "Bridging the gap"
on the NFB web site. But for starters I will tackle the questions you asked
here.

Your questions:

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.
Answer: Your pump is not in plain view. It's a small device which you hide
under your clothing if you want. I have a little waist band and the pump is
hidden under my top, but easily grabbable when I want it. These days with
everyone carrying phones and such in their pockets, nobody will notice so
you won't need to take it off other than during a shower.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.
Answer: What the pump delivers is insulin. So if you're taking something
like Victoza, you would use the pen separately for that. You and your doctor
would decide about any oral meds you'd take in combination with the insulin.
But if on the pump, you would no longer need to use long-acting insulin. The
pump only uses short-acting because it's constantly delivering insulin to
you.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?
Answer. Non, really. I do take my pump off if I swim. So other than super
deep water activities, you'd just do your normal life.

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?
Answer: In the pump itself you place a cartridge which contains insulin.
Different pumps carry different amounts of insulin. Pump cartridges can hold
from 200 to 315 units of insulin. You can definitely fill a cartridge
yourself. You drop the cartridge inside the pump. Then you attach tubing to
the top of the cartridge. This tubing connects to what's called a cannula,
which is a little bitty thing inserted into, well, you. So then when you
program the pump to deliver insulin, it's carried through the tubing and
goes into you. You don't feel it either. 
In your business example, what I like most about a pump, well, one of the
things I like most is the ability to be at a luncheon and stand in line,
then just push a button quickly so I get the amount of insulin I need to
cover the food I'm eating. Then if an hour later someone suggests going for
coffee to close a sale or something, no big deal. I don't have to grab stuff
and inject in front of a client. I do know some type II's who use the pump
as long-acting insulin because they don't take short-acting insulin for
meals. If that's you and you require a set dose of insulin each day, there's
a patch that just goes against your abdomen and nobody will know a thing.
Anyway, that's the intro for you. I hope it helps and feel free to ask any
questions you want. We all joined this list at one time so it's no big deal
if things get repeated a bit. <grin> Veronica


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Aug  4 23:04:33 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 19:04:33 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <000401d1ee7a$0821f900$1865eb00$@gmail.com>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>	<01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>	<28894CE5-7037-4617-8EF0-A18D6B17FFA8@samobile.net>
	<000401d1ee7a$0821f900$1865eb00$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00cb01d1eea4$90b986a0$b22c93e0$@aol.com>

What do we need to do to qualify  for a CGM as far as medicare goes.  I feel
if I had more Continuous Glucose monitoring then the doctor would have more
information to adjust insulin.  Ithe  feel without the info the docs are
just guessing, too.

My sister-in-law just last week changed and went up to Yale to see an
endocrinologist.  The doctor sent her out for CGM for 5 days.  They did use
a Dextrum CGM.  So is this what doctors are doing now?  At least if that is
the case the docs are getting the information they need.  Maybe medicare
would pay for the testing.  

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Only type ones use insulin pumps. I've never heard of a type two, even an
insulin dependent one, using a pump, though I suppose they could. But if
type one, you qualify for a pump, no matter your A1-C.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

If the a one c is higher as a type one is that what you are saying! 
At this time I can't yes! 

Dar
Every saint has a past,
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on a
> pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is
higher,
> it can be easier to get on a pump.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay
> for the pump. 
> So that took care of that. 
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past, 
> Every sinner has a future 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bridgit, and All,
>> 
>> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
>> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
>> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
>> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
>> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
>> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
>> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
>> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
>> 
>> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
>> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
>> more you took your insulin per day, the better
>> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
>> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
>> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
>> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
>> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
>> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
>> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
>> then having to stick myself for blood testing
>> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
>> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
>> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
>> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
>> one way or another. 
>> 
>> 
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message ----- 
>> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
>> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
>> Day?
>> 
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
>> know for sure with diabetes
>> is the more you test, the better control you can
>> have over glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
>> testing 8 times a day is not
>> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
>> levels, a doctor may want
>> you to test more frequently so they can better
>> track trends and create a
>> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
>> day with your sugars.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Aug  4 23:07:28 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 19:07:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <021f01d1ee79$d05af350$7110d9f0$@gmail.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>
	<021f01d1ee79$d05af350$7110d9f0$@gmail.com>
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Do they make skins to fit the pumps?  Who sells the skins or are they made
for something else and used on the pumps?

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:59 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

The pump is intended to deliver insulin only, so if not insulin dependent,
you don't need a pump. Yes, you can detach the pump, but only for short
periods of time. Without it on, you are not receiving insulin and would get
high sugars. The pumps are not super noticeable, especially if you stick
with neutral colors like black. I like color, so mine is pink, and I have a
purple skin and a pink leopard skin for it, grin. But you can attach it to
your waist band or pocket, or some users wear it inside their clothes. No
activities are off limits. I just did a triathlon, which is a pretty intense
activity. As long as you're adhering to a proper diet and testing regularly,
nothing is off limits. You fill the cartridges with insulin that are loaded
into the pump. Some blind diabetics fill their own. I do in a pinch, but I
prefer to have someone sighted fill mine, so I ask family or friends.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

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Twitter @ohnfb, 

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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 23:25:10 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <00cb01d1eea4$90b986a0$b22c93e0$@aol.com>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>	<01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>	<28894CE5-7037-4617-8EF0-A18D6B17FFA8@samobile.net>	<000401d1ee7a$0821f900$1865eb00$@gmail.com>
	<00cb01d1eea4$90b986a0$b22c93e0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b701d1eea7$7268b970$573a2c50$@gmail.com>

As of now, I don't believe Medicare will cover CGMs for any reason.

My endo told me that the Dexcum recently was the only CGM FDA approved for
being as accurate as glucometers, making it the number one CGM right now. I
think that's why so many people are going with Dexcum.

Bridgit

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blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 6:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

What do we need to do to qualify  for a CGM as far as medicare goes.  I feel
if I had more Continuous Glucose monitoring then the doctor would have more
information to adjust insulin.  Ithe  feel without the info the docs are
just guessing, too.

My sister-in-law just last week changed and went up to Yale to see an
endocrinologist.  The doctor sent her out for CGM for 5 days.  They did use
a Dextrum CGM.  So is this what doctors are doing now?  At least if that is
the case the docs are getting the information they need.  Maybe medicare
would pay for the testing.  

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Only type ones use insulin pumps. I've never heard of a type two, even an
insulin dependent one, using a pump, though I suppose they could. But if
type one, you qualify for a pump, no matter your A1-C.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

If the a one c is higher as a type one is that what you are saying! 
At this time I can't yes! 

Dar
Every saint has a past,
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
> Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on 
> a pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is
higher,
> it can be easier to get on a pump.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not 
> pay for the pump.
> So that took care of that. 
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bridgit, and All,
>> 
>> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or at least shouldn't) 
>> disagree in the least. I know it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked 
>> in first in my response yesterday. For decades, I've struggled to 
>> keep up with the "4 times a day"
>> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I find they're 
>> recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
>> 
>> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's they had that 
>> 10-year study which showed that the more you took your insulin per 
>> day, the better long-term health you had. The ones who took it once a 
>> day were worst-off. The ones who took it twice a day were better, and 
>> 3 times a day were even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
>> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I hated sticking myself 
>> multiple times a day. And sticking myself with insulin multiple 
>> times, and then having to stick myself for blood testing multimple 
>> times on top of that, never fully agreed with me and my stubbornness. 
>> But, hey, as I said, I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all 
>> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them) one way or 
>> another.
>> 
>> 
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
>> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
>> 
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with 
>> diabetes is the more you test, the better control you can have over 
>> glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day 
>> is not unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a 
>> doctor may want you to test more frequently so they can better track 
>> trends and create a fuller composite of what is happening throughout 
>> a day with your sugars.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 23:26:36 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:26:36 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions
In-Reply-To: <00cd01d1eea4$f8f57c60$eae07520$@aol.com>
References: <005701d1ee6b$7df5d7f0$79e187d0$@gmail.com>	<021f01d1ee79$d05af350$7110d9f0$@gmail.com>
	<00cd01d1eea4$f8f57c60$eae07520$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b801d1eea7$a51c75f0$ef5561d0$@gmail.com>

Depends on the pump you have. You would need to look into the company that
makes your pump. I have an Animas Ping, and they make several skins to cover
the pump.

Bridgit

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blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 6:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Do they make skins to fit the pumps?  Who sells the skins or are they made
for something else and used on the pumps?

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:59 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

The pump is intended to deliver insulin only, so if not insulin dependent,
you don't need a pump. Yes, you can detach the pump, but only for short
periods of time. Without it on, you are not receiving insulin and would get
high sugars. The pumps are not super noticeable, especially if you stick
with neutral colors like black. I like color, so mine is pink, and I have a
purple skin and a pink leopard skin for it, grin. But you can attach it to
your waist band or pocket, or some users wear it inside their clothes. No
activities are off limits. I just did a triathlon, which is a pretty intense
activity. As long as you're adhering to a proper diet and testing regularly,
nothing is off limits. You fill the cartridges with insulin that are loaded
into the pump. Some blind diabetics fill their own. I do in a pinch, but I
prefer to have someone sighted fill mine, so I ask family or friends.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:16 AM
To: Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Walter Mitchell <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetic pump questions

Hello all,

 

I have been a diabetic for several years, but have received more information
the brief time that I have been accessing  this mail list than I have the
entire time that I have been a diabetic.

 

If there is a document and/or diabetic pump for dummies pamphelet, LOL, some
where, please let me know.

 

My questions:

 

1.       Is it possible to remove the pump at times for convenience and re
attach at my leisure? I am a business owner and attend seminars and
conferences as well galas where I encounter potential clients and customers.
I already have a hard sale by being blind, I really don't want to look like
the million dollar man with this device in plain view, so at times I would
probably take it off when I deem appropriate.

2.       I am a type 2 diabetic and am not insulin dependant. Will the pumps
work with the other medications such as those that come in a pin? I can't
think of any of the names of any of the products at this time, senior
moment, LOL.

3.       What types of activities would I have to refrain from?

4.       How do the pump get refilled with medicine? Is  this something that
I do or will I need to go to my doctor?

 

This  is just a few questions that I have, please forgive me if these
questions have been asked and answered before. Please feel free to contact
me off line, if you would like, at the contact information below. Don't
hesitate to utilize the toll free number, L2T is my company.

 

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

 

Much Love,

Walter Mitchell

Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter

(513) 582-8606 Mobil

(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free

Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

 

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

 

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

 

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

 

Twitter @ohnfb, 

YouTube channel NFB OHIO

 

 

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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Aug  4 23:34:06 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:34:06 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
In-Reply-To: <00cb01d1eea4$90b986a0$b22c93e0$@aol.com>
References: <002a01d1ed87$32848ad0$978da070$@everettgavel.com>	<A16341D2-F98D-4C17-A8F0-AE1290D5CE0C@samobile.net>	<01f301d1ee61$cd639930$682acb90$@gmail.com>	<28894CE5-7037-4617-8EF0-A18D6B17FFA8@samobile.net>	<000401d1ee7a$0821f900$1865eb00$@gmail.com>
	<00cb01d1eea4$90b986a0$b22c93e0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301d1eea8$b10164b0$13042e10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Other than the Medicare problem, you need to be Type 1 and have at least
four readings below 50 in one month. You have to submit a log of your
readings for the previous 30 days. It may vary some with different insurance
carriers but that's what I know. Hopefully Congress will finish their work
and CGM's will be covered under Medicare soon.
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

What do we need to do to qualify  for a CGM as far as medicare goes.  I feel
if I had more Continuous Glucose monitoring then the doctor would have more
information to adjust insulin.  Ithe  feel without the info the docs are
just guessing, too.

My sister-in-law just last week changed and went up to Yale to see an
endocrinologist.  The doctor sent her out for CGM for 5 days.  They did use
a Dextrum CGM.  So is this what doctors are doing now?  At least if that is
the case the docs are getting the information they need.  Maybe medicare
would pay for the testing.  

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Only type ones use insulin pumps. I've never heard of a type two, even an
insulin dependent one, using a pump, though I suppose they could. But if
type one, you qualify for a pump, no matter your A1-C.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

If the a one c is higher as a type one is that what you are saying! 
At this time I can't yes! 

Dar
Every saint has a past,
Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on a
> pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is
higher,
> it can be easier to get on a pump.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not pay
> for the pump. 
> So that took care of that. 
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past, 
> Every sinner has a future 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bridgit, and All,
>> 
>> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or
>> at least shouldn't) disagree in the least. I know
>> it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked in first
>> in my response yesterday. For decades, I've
>> struggled to keep up with the "4 times a day"
>> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I
>> find they're recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is
>> all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
>> 
>> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's
>> they had that 10-year study which showed that the
>> more you took your insulin per day, the better
>> long-term health you had. The ones who took it
>> once a day were worst-off. The ones who took it
>> twice a day were better, and 3 times a day were
>> even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
>> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I
>> hated sticking myself multiple times a day. And
>> sticking myself with insulin multiple times, and
>> then having to stick myself for blood testing
>> multimple times on top of that, never fully agreed
>> with me and my stubbornness. But, hey, as I said,
>> I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all
>> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them)
>> one way or another. 
>> 
>> 
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message ----- 
>> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
>> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a
>> Day?
>> 
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we
>> know for sure with diabetes
>> is the more you test, the better control you can
>> have over glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise,
>> testing 8 times a day is not
>> unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose
>> levels, a doctor may want
>> you to test more frequently so they can better
>> track trends and create a
>> fuller composite of what is happening throughout a
>> day with your sugars.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 23:59:59 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:59:59 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
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My endo also said that the artificial pancreases are about 3 years away from
being available on the market, and that they will use CGMs in conjunction
with the pancreases, so it's worth getting on board with the technology if
possible.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 6:34 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Other than the Medicare problem, you need to be Type 1 and have at least
four readings below 50 in one month. You have to submit a log of your
readings for the previous 30 days. It may vary some with different insurance
carriers but that's what I know. Hopefully Congress will finish their work
and CGM's will be covered under Medicare soon.
Veronica


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blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:05 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

What do we need to do to qualify  for a CGM as far as medicare goes.  I feel
if I had more Continuous Glucose monitoring then the doctor would have more
information to adjust insulin.  Ithe  feel without the info the docs are
just guessing, too.

My sister-in-law just last week changed and went up to Yale to see an
endocrinologist.  The doctor sent her out for CGM for 5 days.  They did use
a Dextrum CGM.  So is this what doctors are doing now?  At least if that is
the case the docs are getting the information they need.  Maybe medicare
would pay for the testing.  

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:00 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

Only type ones use insulin pumps. I've never heard of a type two, even an
insulin dependent one, using a pump, though I suppose they could. But if
type one, you qualify for a pump, no matter your A1-C.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
dar via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?

If the a one c is higher as a type one is that what you are saying! 
At this time I can't yes! 

Dar
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Every sinner has a future 


> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
> Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I've never been told that. If a type two, you won't be able to get on 
> a pump. Type ones generally don't have a problem, and if your A1-C is
higher,
> it can be easier to get on a pump.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of dar via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:18 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dar <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
> 
> I was told for a pump you have to drop below 100 or insurance will not 
> pay for the pump.
> So that took care of that. 
> 
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bridgit, and All,
>> 
>> I get what you're saying, Bridgit, and can't (or at least shouldn't) 
>> disagree in the least. I know it's true. But my sarcastic side kicked 
>> in first in my response yesterday. For decades, I've struggled to 
>> keep up with the "4 times a day"
>> recommendations. Now that I've achieved that, I find they're 
>> recommending 8 times a day. Sheesh is all I'll say. Just, Sheesh. ;-)
>> 
>> I know it's good, though. I remember in the 90's they had that 
>> 10-year study which showed that the more you took your insulin per 
>> day, the better long-term health you had. The ones who took it once a 
>> day were worst-off. The ones who took it twice a day were better, and 
>> 3 times a day were even better, on up to 4 and 5 times a day, etc.
>> That's why I'm so thankful I got a pump, as I hated sticking myself 
>> multiple times a day. And sticking myself with insulin multiple 
>> times, and then having to stick myself for blood testing multimple 
>> times on top of that, never fully agreed with me and my stubbornness. 
>> But, hey, as I said, I know that's why I'm blind now, too. We're all 
>> held accountable for our actions (or lack of them) one way or 
>> another.
>> 
>> 
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter"
>> <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Testing 8 Times a Day?
>> 
>> I test 6 to 8 times a day myself. One thing we know for sure with 
>> diabetes is the more you test, the better control you can have over 
>> glucose levels.
>> Especially if you eat frequently or exercise, testing 8 times a day 
>> is not unusual. And if having trouble controlling glucose levels, a 
>> doctor may want you to test more frequently so they can better track 
>> trends and create a fuller composite of what is happening throughout 
>> a day with your sugars.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Fri Aug  5 17:42:15 2016
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:42:15 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] DAN Affiliate in Georgia?
Message-ID: <013001d1ef40$b57dc900$20795b00$@panix.com>

Years ago, DAN had a division in Georgia. I've lost track of its officers.
Does the affiliate still exist? If so, who are its current officers. I have
a person with diabetes who is going blind that I would like to refer to the
division for follow-up after I contact her.

 

Thanks.

 

Mike Freeman

NFB DAN President

 



From Classemt at aol.com  Sun Aug  7 17:49:11 2016
From: Classemt at aol.com (Classemt at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 13:49:11 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] DAN Affiliate in Georgia?
Message-ID: <73a10.1a0391e6.44d8ce97@aol.com>

please call me 908 240 2475 angela 
 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2016 1:45:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org writes:

Years  ago, DAN had a division in Georgia. I've lost track of its officers.
Does  the affiliate still exist? If so, who are its current officers. I have
a  person with diabetes who is going blind that I would like to refer to  
the
division for follow-up after I contact  her.



Thanks.



Mike Freeman

NFB DAN  President



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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 03:36:29 2016
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 23:36:29 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
 on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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Hello all,

I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from this
list. I have not received a message from this list since early this week. If
you receive this message, please reply.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
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-----Original Message-----
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Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

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Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From debbie8609 at att.net  Sat Aug 13 04:02:53 2016
From: debbie8609 at att.net (Debbie Killian)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 23:02:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
 on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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i got your message.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Walter Mitchell" <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, 
huh? ; -)


> Hello all,
>
> I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from 
> this
> list. I have not received a message from this list since early this week. 
> If
> you receive this message, please reply.
>
> Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!
>
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email
>
> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:
>
> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>
> Cincinnati Chapter:
> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.
>
> Twitter @ohnfb,
> YouTube channel NFB OHIO
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
>
> I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the 
> other
> side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
> side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
> right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, 
> I
> struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
> experience this?
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
>
> Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
> different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
> better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main 
> things,
>
> lots of practice.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
>
> Lissi:
>
> You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
> V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
> meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, 
> I'd
> just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind 
> person,
> your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
> Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
> control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
> normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read 
> the
> book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
> text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
> fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
> gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless 
> you
> have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. 
> If
> you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
> him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind 
> persons
> smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push 
> the
> little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.
>
> As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
> And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
> archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy 
> that
> will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
> can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
> The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English 
> and
> Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
> readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
> readings are still there.
>
> You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
> Georgia.
>
> Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
> strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.
>
> Keep those questions coming.
>
> Mike Freeman, President
> NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Estelnalissi
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
> huh? ; -)
>
> Dear Everet,
>
> I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
> humble anyone.
>
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
> anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
> with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
> far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
> it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!
>
> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
> check
> and it's past noon.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, 
> huh?
> ;-)
>
> Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
> Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
> thing. ;-)
>
>
> Strive On!
> Everett
>
>
> ----- original message -----
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
> 25Message-ID:
> <002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
> Hello Marianne,
>
> My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
> diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
> want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've 
> been
> away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
> into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
> diabetic.
>
> Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
> mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
> you say injections, anyway.
>
> I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a 
> blind
> or low vision diabetic
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/airadil%40dslextr
> eme.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/markspark%40roadr
> unner.com
>
>
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>
>
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
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> gmail.com
>
>
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> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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From spuron73 at jestiles.com  Sat Aug 13 05:07:31 2016
From: spuron73 at jestiles.com (Jacques Stiles)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 23:07:31 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
 huh? ; -)
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message received.









Take your time going, but hurry up every little chance you get on the way
back.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk <
diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from this
> list. I have not received a message from this list since early this week.
> If
> you receive this message, please reply.
>
> Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!
>
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
>  (513) 582-8606 Mobil
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email
>
> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:
>
> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>
> Cincinnati Chapter:
> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.
>
> Twitter @ohnfb,
> YouTube channel NFB OHIO
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
>
> I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the
> other
> side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
> side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
> right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does,
> I
> struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
> experience this?
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
>
> Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
> different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
> better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main
> things,
>
> lots of practice.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
>
> Lissi:
>
> You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
> V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
> meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you,
> I'd
> just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
> your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
> Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
> control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
> normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read
> the
> book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
> text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
> fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
> gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
> have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
> you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
> him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind
> persons
> smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
> little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.
>
> As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
> And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
> archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
> will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
> can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
> The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English
> and
> Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
> readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
> readings are still there.
>
> You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
> Georgia.
>
> Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
> strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.
>
> Keep those questions coming.
>
> Mike Freeman, President
> NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Estelnalissi
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
> huh? ; -)
>
> Dear Everet,
>
> I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
> humble anyone.
>
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
> anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
> with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
> far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
> it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!
>
> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
> and it's past noon.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
> ;-)
>
> Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
> Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
> thing. ;-)
>
>
> Strive On!
> Everett
>
>
> ----- original message -----
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
> 25Message-ID:
> <002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
> Hello Marianne,
>
> My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
> diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
> want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
> away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
> into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
> diabetic.
>
> Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
> mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
> you say injections, anyway.
>
> I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a
> blind
> or low vision diabetic
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.
> org/airadil%40dslextr
> eme.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.
> org/k7uij%40panix.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-Talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.
> org/markspark%40roadr
> unner.com
>
>
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> gmail.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


From fasac at icloud.com  Sat Aug 13 05:16:43 2016
From: fasac at icloud.com (frederick sacco)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 01:16:43 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on	thelist,
 huh? ; -)
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> On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from this
> list. I have not received a message from this list since early this week. If
> you receive this message, please reply.
> 
> Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!
> 
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email
> 
> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:
> 
> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
> 
> Cincinnati Chapter:
> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.
> 
> Twitter @ohnfb, 
> YouTube channel NFB OHIO
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
> 
> I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
> side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
> side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
> right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
> struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
> experience this?
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
> 
> Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
> different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
> better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,
> 
> lots of practice.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
> huh? ; -)
> 
> Lissi:
> 
> You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
> V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
> meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
> just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
> your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
> Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
> control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
> normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
> book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
> text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
> fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
> gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
> have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
> you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
> him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
> smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
> little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.
> 
> As I say, practice makes perfect.
> 
> And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
> archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
> will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
> can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
> 
> The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
> Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
> readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
> readings are still there.
> 
> You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
> Georgia.
> 
> Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
> strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.
> 
> Keep those questions coming.
> 
> Mike Freeman, President
> NFB Diabetes Action Network
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Estelnalissi
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
> huh? ; -)
> 
> Dear Everet,
> 
> I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
> humble anyone.
> 
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
> to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
> anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
> with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
> far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
> it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!
> 
> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
> and it's past noon.
> 
> Always with love,
> 
> Lissi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
> ;-)
> 
> Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
> Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
> thing. ;-)
> 
> 
> Strive On!
> Everett
> 
> 
> ----- original message -----
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
> 25Message-ID:
> <002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
> 
> Hello Marianne,
> 
> My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
> diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
> want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
> away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
> into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
> diabetic.
> 
> Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
> mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
> you say injections, anyway.
> 
> I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
> or low vision diabetic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From debbiewunder at charter.net  Sat Aug 13 14:58:03 2016
From: debbiewunder at charter.net (Debbie Wunder)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:58:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on	the
 list,	huh? ; -)
Message-ID: <000c01d1f573$17e801e0$47b805a0$@charter.net>

Hi, I received your message

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:36 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Hello all,

I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from this
list. I have not received a message from this list since early this week. If
you receive this message, please reply.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
 (513) 582-8606 Mobil
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

Twitter @ohnfb, 
YouTube channel NFB OHIO



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 15:12:47 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 10:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
 on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <A3481DF732BD4312AFCC9E61C970C722@IBM922A2804059>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com><9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>	<011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com><9F06F936929E4F29865F9008EB3957C7@mPC><03f001d1ec2a$7a145730$6e3d0590$@gmail.com>	<008201d1f513$e2a47ef0$a7ed7cd0$@gmail.com>
	<A3481DF732BD4312AFCC9E61C970C722@IBM922A2804059>
Message-ID: <00cd01d1f575$2716cf00$75446d00$@gmail.com>

There haven't been messages on this list for a week or so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Debbie Killian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:03 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Debbie Killian <debbie8609 at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

i got your message.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Walter Mitchell" <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)


> Hello all,
>
> I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from 
> this list. I have not received a message from this list since early 
> this week.
> If
> you receive this message, please reply.
>
> Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!
>
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free 
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email
>
> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:
>
> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>
> Cincinnati Chapter:
> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.
>
> Twitter @ohnfb,
> YouTube channel NFB OHIO
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
> thelist, huh? ; -)
>
> I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the 
> other side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick 
> the left side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try 
> to prick the right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at 
> all, and if it does, I struggle to get enough blood. Same with the 
> other hand. Anyone else experience this?
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
> thelist, huh? ; -)
>
> Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions 
> that different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to 
> be much better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of 
> the main things,
>
> lots of practice.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
> thelist, huh? ; -)
>
> Lissi:
>
> You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the 
> Solus
> V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered 
> the meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were 
> I you, I'd just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and 
> a blind person, your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy 
> Voice from NFB's Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It 
> *does* come with control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently 
> often that I don't normally worry about it). You should also go on the 
> NFB website and read the book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in 
> the search box and you'll get text or audio -- whichever you prefer. 
> It has a good article on fingersticking techniques. I know it's 
> frustrating now but be assured it gets easier with practice. And more 
> practice. And more practice. Unless you have severe neuropathy in your 
> hands, you'll get better as you go along.
> If
> you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have 
> him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind 
> persons smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that 
> you push the little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the 
> bead of blood.
>
> As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
> And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back 
> through archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable 
> pharmacy that will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at 
> $5.21 a box -- you can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
> The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both 
> English and Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only 
> the last ten readings can be reviewed from memory without sight 
> although the other readings are still there.
>
> You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta, 
> Georgia.
>
> Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that 
> handles strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the
Voice.
>
> Keep those questions coming.
>
> Mike Freeman, President
> NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Estelnalissi
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the 
> list, huh? ; -)
>
> Dear Everet,
>
> I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, 
> not humble anyone.
>
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it 
> comes to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't 
> making them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first 
> time. To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 
> times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I 
> don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way
to go!
>
> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
> check and it's past noon.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, 
> huh?
> ;-)
>
> Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
> Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good 
> thing. ;-)
>
>
> Strive On!
> Everett
>
>
> ----- original message -----
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
> 25Message-ID:
> <002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
> Hello Marianne,
>
> My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and 
> diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I 
> didn't want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to 
> everyone. I've been away from the list for a while, but have recently 
> been able to come back into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife 
> has now found out she's a diabetic.
>
> Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about 
> your mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its 
> insulin, since you say injections, anyway.
>
> I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a 
> blind or low vision diabetic
>
>
>
>
>
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From walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 18:25:50 2016
From: walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com (Walter Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:25:50 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
 on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
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Thank you to all that responded. This list is so active, I thought that
something was wrong when I didn't receive any messages for a few days.
Thanks again.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
 (513) 582-8606 Mobil
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Debbie Killian via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 12:03 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Debbie Killian
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

i got your message.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Walter Mitchell" <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)


> Hello all,
>
> I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from 
> this list. I have not received a message from this list since early 
> this week.
> If
> you receive this message, please reply.
>
> Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!
>
> Much Love,
> Walter Mitchell
> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free 
> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email
>
> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:
>
> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>
> Cincinnati Chapter:
> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.
>
> Twitter @ohnfb,
> YouTube channel NFB OHIO
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
> thelist, huh? ; -)
>
> I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the 
> other side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick 
> the left side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try 
> to prick the right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at 
> all, and if it does, I struggle to get enough blood. Same with the 
> other hand. Anyone else experience this?
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
> thelist, huh? ; -)
>
> Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions 
> that different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to 
> be much better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of 
> the main things,
>
> lots of practice.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on 
> thelist, huh? ; -)
>
> Lissi:
>
> You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the 
> Solus
> V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered 
> the meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were 
> I you, I'd just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and 
> a blind person, your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy 
> Voice from NFB's Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It 
> *does* come with control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently 
> often that I don't normally worry about it). You should also go on the 
> NFB website and read the book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in 
> the search box and you'll get text or audio -- whichever you prefer. 
> It has a good article on fingersticking techniques. I know it's 
> frustrating now but be assured it gets easier with practice. And more 
> practice. And more practice. Unless you have severe neuropathy in your 
> hands, you'll get better as you go along.
> If
> you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have 
> him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind 
> persons smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that 
> you push the little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the 
> bead of blood.
>
> As I say, practice makes perfect.
>
> And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back 
> through archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable 
> pharmacy that will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at 
> $5.21 a box -- you can't beat this price with most insurance plans.
>
> The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both 
> English and Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only 
> the last ten readings can be reviewed from memory without sight 
> although the other readings are still there.
>
> You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta, 
> Georgia.
>
> Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that 
> handles strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the
Voice.
>
> Keep those questions coming.
>
> Mike Freeman, President
> NFB Diabetes Action Network
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Estelnalissi
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the 
> list, huh? ; -)
>
> Dear Everet,
>
> I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, 
> not humble anyone.
>
> I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it 
> comes to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't 
> making them anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first 
> time. To comply with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 
> times a day and so far I've only managed to get it right one day. I 
> don't like thinking about it, much less doing it. I have such a long way
to go!
>
> I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose 
> check and it's past noon.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Everett Gavel
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, 
> huh?
> ;-)
>
> Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
> Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good 
> thing. ;-)
>
>
> Strive On!
> Everett
>
>
> ----- original message -----
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
> 25Message-ID:
> <002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>
>
> Hello Marianne,
>
> My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and 
> diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I 
> didn't want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to 
> everyone. I've been away from the list for a while, but have recently 
> been able to come back into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife 
> has now found out she's a diabetic.
>
> Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about 
> your mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its 
> insulin, since you say injections, anyway.
>
> I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a 
> blind or low vision diabetic
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Sun Aug 14 15:04:17 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:04:17 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down
 on	thelist,	huh? ; -)
In-Reply-To: <008201d1f513$e2a47ef0$a7ed7cd0$@gmail.com>
References: <005001d1ebf5$b11540d0$133fc270$@everettgavel.com><9E38BF54120C407D896756F82012B4EB@OwnerPC>	<011e01d1ec14$3714dbf0$a53e93d0$@panix.com><9F06F936929E4F29865F9008EB3957C7@mPC><03f001d1ec2a$7a145730$6e3d0590$@gmail.com>
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Got it, Walter.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:36 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Walter Mitchell
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist, 
huh? ; -)

Hello all,

I believe that I am experiencing problems with receiving messages from this
list. I have not received a message from this list since early this week. If
you receive this message, please reply.

Blind love is the answer, presently , and for our future!

Much Love,
Walter Mitchell
Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter
(513) 582-8606 Mobil
(800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com Email

Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind

Cincinnati Chapter:
https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/.

Twitter @ohnfb,
YouTube channel NFB OHIO



-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:26 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

I don't have much struggle testing, except for when I try to prick the other
side of a finger. For instance, on my left hand, I usually prick the left
side of my finger, and don't have many problems. When I try to prick the
right side of the finger, it usually doesn't bleed at all, and if it does, I
struggle to get enough blood. Same with the other hand. Anyone else
experience this?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Finger-sticking can be frustrating, and there are many suggestions that
different people use, but after much practice, I find myself to be much
better at it than I was when first starting.  That's one of the main things,

lots of practice.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 12:46 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on thelist,
huh? ; -)

Lissi:

You can still get either the Prodigy Voice (fully accessible) or the Solus
V2 (almost fully accessible). I believe you were the one who ordered the
meter from Amazon and it did not come with control solution. Were I you, I'd
just bite the bullet, decide that both as a human being and a blind person,
your health is worth paying a bit and buy the Prodigy Voice from NFB's
Independence Market -- cost is $50 or a bit above. It *does* come with
control solution (although it goes bad sufficiently often that I don't
normally worry about it). You should also go on the NFB website and read the
book "Bridging the Gap" -- just put that in the search box and you'll get
text or audio -- whichever you prefer. It has a good article on
fingersticking techniques. I know it's frustrating now but be assured it
gets easier with practice. And more practice. And more practice. Unless you
have severe neuropathy in your hands, you'll get better as you go along. If
you are under the care of a diabetes nurse or diabetes educator, have
him/her watch you to see where you might be messing up. Often, blind persons
smear the blood rather than leaving it as a bead of blood that you push the
little slit in the strip into so that it sucks up the bead of blood.

As I say, practice makes perfect.

And (I know some find this sort of thinking anathema), I'd go back through
archives of this list's messages and you can find a reputable pharmacy that
will sell you a verified box of strips for the Voice at $5.21 a box -- you
can't beat this price with most insurance plans.

The only drawback to the Solus V2 is that because it speaks both English and
Spanish, there's only limited memory for speech so only the last ten
readings can be reviewed from memory without sight although the other
readings are still there.

You can get the Solus V2 from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta,
Georgia.

Oh yes -- if you have a pharmacy that takes your insurance that handles
strips for the Prodigy Autocode, these work just fine in the Voice.

Keep those questions coming.

Mike Freeman, President
NFB Diabetes Action Network


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Estelnalissi via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Estelnalissi
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list,
huh? ; -)

Dear Everet,

I just shared good news about the click pens, only meant to encourage, not
humble anyone.

I rejoined the list because I need help myself. For example, when it comes
to talking glucometers I know nothing!!! I heard they aren't making them
anymore. And I'm seeing an endocrinologist for the first time. To comply
with his recommendations I should be sticking myself 8 times a day and so
far I've only managed to get it right one day. I don't like thinking about
it, much less doing it. I have such a long way to go!

I like your, "Strive on." I'm still striving to do my morning glucose check
and it's past noon.

Always with love,

Lissi

-----Original Message-----
From: Everett Gavel via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Everett Gavel
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] So much for keeping traffic down on the list, huh?
;-)

Sigh. So much for keeping it offlist "just in case" it was old news, huh?
Sorry about that, folks. Ah well, being humbled now and then is a good
thing. ;-)


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 06:24:22 -0600
From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 106, Issue
25Message-ID:
<002d01d1eb26$7830e550$6892aff0$@everettgavel.com>

Hello Marianne,

My name is Everett. I just read your inquiry about the Apple watch and
diabetes, on the Diabetes Talk list. I hope you don't mind, but I didn't
want to ask this on the list in case it was old news to everyone. I've been
away from the list for a while, but have recently been able to come back
into the mix. In that short time, too, my wife has now found out she's a
diabetic.

Marianne, my question was not about the Apple watch stuff, but about your
mention of taking both oral meds and insulin? I assume its insulin, since
you say injections, anyway.

I just wanted to make sure you know about the products out there for a blind
or low vision diabetic





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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Aug 24 15:39:50 2016
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:39:50 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Is insulin pump therapy for you?
Message-ID: <C26A672A4B6B4150B4F7C4179EBA5500@eileen>

I thought this was a good article that might be helpful to those considering an insulin pump.  I?ll include the link to the Mayo web site and paste in the text as well.

Eileen ....

Article from:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/is-insulin-pump-therapy-for-you/expert-blog/bgp-20236098/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=controlling-diabetes#main

Is insulin pump therapy for you?
By 
Peggy Moreland, R.N., C.D.E.
August 20, 2016 

An insulin pump is a small computerized device that delivers insulin in two ways:

list of 2 items
? It delivers insulin in a steady, measured and continuous dose. This is known as basal rate and replaces long-acting insulin and can deliver a very small
amount ? as low as 0.025 units per hour.
? It can also deliver a bolus, or burst, of insulin to cover food. Before a meal, you enter the amount of carbohydrates and your blood glucose reading
into the insulin pump. The pump will then calculate the amount of insulin required and deliver the precise dosage of bolus insulin ? as low as 0.1 unit.
list end

The insulin pump uses mainly rapid insulin such as aspart (NovoLog), lispro (Humalog) or glulisine (Apidra). In rare circumstances, regular insulin is
used.

Many people want to have an insulin pump because "it does everything for you." While that option will be available in a few years, that is not true currently.
Realistically, you still must test your blood glucose. You will still have blood glucose problems, but an insulin pump can improve blood glucose control
by delivering individualized rates.

Being on an insulin pump does not mean that you can eat anything you want. Nobody can eat whatever they want. However, the pump does increase lifestyle
flexibility because you do not need to inject insulin. But the pump is a tool and is only as effective as the person using it. It will take some time to
learn and to adjust the settings on your pump.

Some things to consider for those thinking about insulin pump therapy:

list of 4 items
? Requirements: 
list of 4 items nesting level 1
? Currently on an intensive insulin program requiring daily long-acting insulin and rapid-acting insulin with meals
? Experience with carbohydrate counting
? Able and willing to monitor your blood glucose at least 4 times a day
? Able to understand and work with mechanical devices or computers
list end nesting level 1
? An insulin pump can increase the potential for ketoacidosis. Because only rapid-acting insulin is used in an insulin pump, if the pump fails your blood
glucose will rise rapidly.
? Insulin pumps cost approximately $7,000-$10,000 and approximately another $1,500 a year for pump supplies.
? The pump weighs about 2.8-4.2 ounces and is attached to you 24 hours a day every day.
list end

So, if you are interested in an insulin pump, you must be motivated, realistic in your expectations and willing to learn. You also need to have support
from your family or significant other. It also helps to be able to afford the insulin pump and supplies.

Are you intellectually, physically, emotionally and technically able to run a pump? If so, check with your insurance carrier for coverage, as they may
only cover a certain brand. Insulin pump companies are able to help you contact insurance and assist you in checking on specific coverage.


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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 15:56:22 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:56:22 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Is insulin pump therapy for you?
In-Reply-To: <C26A672A4B6B4150B4F7C4179EBA5500@eileen>
References: <C26A672A4B6B4150B4F7C4179EBA5500@eileen>
Message-ID: <04bf01d1fe20$11ae9e00$350bda00$@gmail.com>

Thanks for sharing. But I do contest the comment that diabetics cannot eat whatever they want. This is just a misunderstanding whether on a pump or not. This is one of the most common perceptions people have about diabetes, and I find it quite annoying. Some need to be more careful about certain carbs. Carbs work differently in people, and insulin/carb ratios will vary greatly from person-to-person. But we know nowadays that most diabetics have no dietary restrictions. As long as you practice portion control and bolus as needed, what a diabetic eats is not a major factor. And actually, when using a pump, it provides even more flexibility with food since you eat, count carbs and bolus on the spot. Whenever, wherever.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:40 AM
To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Is insulin pump therapy for you?

I thought this was a good article that might be helpful to those considering an insulin pump.  I?ll include the link to the Mayo web site and paste in the text as well.

Eileen ....

Article from:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/is-insulin-pump-therapy-for-you/expert-blog/bgp-20236098/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=controlling-diabetes#main

Is insulin pump therapy for you?
By
Peggy Moreland, R.N., C.D.E.
August 20, 2016 

An insulin pump is a small computerized device that delivers insulin in two ways:

list of 2 items
? It delivers insulin in a steady, measured and continuous dose. This is known as basal rate and replaces long-acting insulin and can deliver a very small amount ? as low as 0.025 units per hour.
? It can also deliver a bolus, or burst, of insulin to cover food. Before a meal, you enter the amount of carbohydrates and your blood glucose reading into the insulin pump. The pump will then calculate the amount of insulin required and deliver the precise dosage of bolus insulin ? as low as 0.1 unit.
list end

The insulin pump uses mainly rapid insulin such as aspart (NovoLog), lispro (Humalog) or glulisine (Apidra). In rare circumstances, regular insulin is used.

Many people want to have an insulin pump because "it does everything for you." While that option will be available in a few years, that is not true currently.
Realistically, you still must test your blood glucose. You will still have blood glucose problems, but an insulin pump can improve blood glucose control by delivering individualized rates.

Being on an insulin pump does not mean that you can eat anything you want. Nobody can eat whatever they want. However, the pump does increase lifestyle flexibility because you do not need to inject insulin. But the pump is a tool and is only as effective as the person using it. It will take some time to learn and to adjust the settings on your pump.

Some things to consider for those thinking about insulin pump therapy:

list of 4 items
? Requirements: 
list of 4 items nesting level 1
? Currently on an intensive insulin program requiring daily long-acting insulin and rapid-acting insulin with meals ? Experience with carbohydrate counting ? Able and willing to monitor your blood glucose at least 4 times a day ? Able to understand and work with mechanical devices or computers list end nesting level 1 ? An insulin pump can increase the potential for ketoacidosis. Because only rapid-acting insulin is used in an insulin pump, if the pump fails your blood glucose will rise rapidly.
? Insulin pumps cost approximately $7,000-$10,000 and approximately another $1,500 a year for pump supplies.
? The pump weighs about 2.8-4.2 ounces and is attached to you 24 hours a day every day.
list end

So, if you are interested in an insulin pump, you must be motivated, realistic in your expectations and willing to learn. You also need to have support from your family or significant other. It also helps to be able to afford the insulin pump and supplies.

Are you intellectually, physically, emotionally and technically able to run a pump? If so, check with your insurance carrier for coverage, as they may only cover a certain brand. Insulin pump companies are able to help you contact insurance and assist you in checking on specific coverage.






From dmgina at samobile.net  Wed Aug 24 20:02:56 2016
From: dmgina at samobile.net (Dar)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:02:56 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Is insulin pump therapy for you?
In-Reply-To: <C26A672A4B6B4150B4F7C4179EBA5500@eileen>
References: <C26A672A4B6B4150B4F7C4179EBA5500@eileen>
Message-ID: <4C41C4BC-9122-4D70-A9F4-7E4E83D0E96E@samobile.net>

I love articles like this, I am always told I need to be below one hundred several days in a row. 
So I know this isn't happening so I gave it up. 
Thanks for sharing. 


Dar 
Every Saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future, Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I thought this was a good article that might be helpful to those considering an insulin pump.  I?ll include the link to the Mayo web site and paste in the text as well.
> 
> Eileen ....
> 
> Article from:
> http://www.mayoclinic.org/is-insulin-pump-therapy-for-you/expert-blog/bgp-20236098/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=controlling-diabetes#main
> 
> Is insulin pump therapy for you?
> By 
> Peggy Moreland, R.N., C.D.E.
> August 20, 2016 
> 
> An insulin pump is a small computerized device that delivers insulin in two ways:
> 
> list of 2 items
> ? It delivers insulin in a steady, measured and continuous dose. This is known as basal rate and replaces long-acting insulin and can deliver a very small
> amount ? as low as 0.025 units per hour.
> ? It can also deliver a bolus, or burst, of insulin to cover food. Before a meal, you enter the amount of carbohydrates and your blood glucose reading
> into the insulin pump. The pump will then calculate the amount of insulin required and deliver the precise dosage of bolus insulin ? as low as 0.1 unit.
> list end
> 
> The insulin pump uses mainly rapid insulin such as aspart (NovoLog), lispro (Humalog) or glulisine (Apidra). In rare circumstances, regular insulin is
> used.
> 
> Many people want to have an insulin pump because "it does everything for you." While that option will be available in a few years, that is not true currently.
> Realistically, you still must test your blood glucose. You will still have blood glucose problems, but an insulin pump can improve blood glucose control
> by delivering individualized rates.
> 
> Being on an insulin pump does not mean that you can eat anything you want. Nobody can eat whatever they want. However, the pump does increase lifestyle
> flexibility because you do not need to inject insulin. But the pump is a tool and is only as effective as the person using it. It will take some time to
> learn and to adjust the settings on your pump.
> 
> Some things to consider for those thinking about insulin pump therapy:
> 
> list of 4 items
> ? Requirements: 
> list of 4 items nesting level 1
> ? Currently on an intensive insulin program requiring daily long-acting insulin and rapid-acting insulin with meals
> ? Experience with carbohydrate counting
> ? Able and willing to monitor your blood glucose at least 4 times a day
> ? Able to understand and work with mechanical devices or computers
> list end nesting level 1
> ? An insulin pump can increase the potential for ketoacidosis. Because only rapid-acting insulin is used in an insulin pump, if the pump fails your blood
> glucose will rise rapidly.
> ? Insulin pumps cost approximately $7,000-$10,000 and approximately another $1,500 a year for pump supplies.
> ? The pump weighs about 2.8-4.2 ounces and is attached to you 24 hours a day every day.
> list end
> 
> So, if you are interested in an insulin pump, you must be motivated, realistic in your expectations and willing to learn. You also need to have support
> from your family or significant other. It also helps to be able to afford the insulin pump and supplies.
> 
> Are you intellectually, physically, emotionally and technically able to run a pump? If so, check with your insurance carrier for coverage, as they may
> only cover a certain brand. Insulin pump companies are able to help you contact insurance and assist you in checking on specific coverage.
> 
> 
> <Eileen scrivani.vcf>
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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Aug 25 04:55:02 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:55:02 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access
Message-ID: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>

This is going to sound silly, but here goes.  I have a friend who would like to join the list.  What is the exact email she would use to do this?  I tried NFB.org, but I?m not getting anywhere.  I have been on this list for quite a while, so I have forgotten how I did this exactly, or how I can access the list of NFB list serves.  This has got to sound strange, but please bare with me.  Sorry about this.  
Mark Tardif 
Nuclear arms will not hold you. 

From jfranks at nfbtx.org  Thu Aug 25 05:32:08 2016
From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:32:08 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access
In-Reply-To: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
References: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
Message-ID: <CAMuaAOLH+E-QAGNVL4kKiH4-0o=-v=Ye6Za65TdEAi95-BbW5A@mail.gmail.com>

Here you go!

http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org

Warm regards,

Jonathan Franks BSW
Board Member
National Federation of the Blind of Texas

On 8/24/16, Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> This is going to sound silly, but here goes.  I have a friend who would like
> to join the list.  What is the exact email she would use to do this?  I
> tried NFB.org, but I?m not getting anywhere.  I have been on this list for
> quite a while, so I have forgotten how I did this exactly, or how I can
> access the list of NFB list serves.  This has got to sound strange, but
> please bare with me.  Sorry about this.
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
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you want; blindness is not what holds you back.



From blindhands at aol.com  Thu Aug 25 13:18:44 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:18:44 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access
In-Reply-To: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
References: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
Message-ID: <00a601d1fed3$35381f00$9fa85d00$@aol.com>

Mark at the bottom of each email in each of the lists there is a link for that list.  So check this email and then forward it to your friend.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:55 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access

This is going to sound silly, but here goes.  I have a friend who would like to join the list.  What is the exact email she would use to do this?  I tried NFB.org, but I?m not getting anywhere.  I have been on this list for quite a while, so I have forgotten how I did this exactly, or how I can access the list of NFB list serves.  This has got to sound strange, but please bare with me.  Sorry about this.  
Mark Tardif 
Nuclear arms will not hold you. 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 13:27:33 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:27:33 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access
In-Reply-To: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
References: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
Message-ID: <01d001d1fed4$703aab30$50b00190$@gmail.com>

You should be able to go to nfbnet.org and find a listing of all the listserves. This is not working?

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:55 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access

This is going to sound silly, but here goes.  I have a friend who would like to join the list.  What is the exact email she would use to do this?  I tried NFB.org, but I?m not getting anywhere.  I have been on this list for quite a while, so I have forgotten how I did this exactly, or how I can access the list of NFB list serves.  This has got to sound strange, but please bare with me.  Sorry about this.  
Mark Tardif 
Nuclear arms will not hold you. 
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From markspark at roadrunner.com  Thu Aug 25 14:02:30 2016
From: markspark at roadrunner.com (Mark Tardif)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access
In-Reply-To: <01d001d1fed4$703aab30$50b00190$@gmail.com>
References: <37D216B558404D73AC1876DDF0A7BFF4@mPC>
	<01d001d1fed4$703aab30$50b00190$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <240F021D4D3B415E974425A995506964@mPC>

That's what I was missing, and I have indeed found the proper site and email 
address and forwarded them to my friend.  But thank you, and others too who 
have helped with this.  This was a brain freeze of Biblical proportions, I 
sware.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:27 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] access

You should be able to go to nfbnet.org and find a listing of all the 
listserves. This is not working?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:55 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] access

This is going to sound silly, but here goes.  I have a friend who would like 
to join the list.  What is the exact email she would use to do this?  I 
tried NFB.org, but I?m not getting anywhere.  I have been on this list for 
quite a while, so I have forgotten how I did this exactly, or how I can 
access the list of NFB list serves.  This has got to sound strange, but 
please bare with me.  Sorry about this.
Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
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From blindhands at aol.com  Mon Aug 29 15:31:55 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:31:55 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
Message-ID: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 






From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 15:49:45 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 10:49:45 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Mon Aug 29 21:01:22 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:01:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>
	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From blindhands at aol.com  Mon Aug 29 23:39:24 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:39:24 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>
	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new
CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to
make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to
wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your
IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test
on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the
aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 00:04:01 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:04:01 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>
Message-ID: <027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes
of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump
accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new
CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to
make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to
wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your
IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test
on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the
aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Tue Aug 30 19:52:57 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:52:57 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>
	<027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008c01d202f8$1b3c0930$51b41b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just
can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a
shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like
profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant
it. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes
of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump
accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new
CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to
make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to
wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your
IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test
on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the
aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Tue Aug 30 20:29:37 2016
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:29:37 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <008c01d202f8$1b3c0930$51b41b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>
	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>
	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>
	<027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>
	<008c01d202f8$1b3c0930$51b41b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <243E7339AC534591AF27B34BC817D034@eileen>

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just
can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a
shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like
profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant
it. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes
of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump
accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new
CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to
make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to
wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your
IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test
on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the
aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 00:07:21 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:07:21 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <243E7339AC534591AF27B34BC817D034@eileen>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>	<027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>	<008c01d202f8$1b3c0930$51b41b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<243E7339AC534591AF27B34BC817D034@eileen>
Message-ID: <012001d2031b$a55977b0$f00c6710$@gmail.com>

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From joystigile at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 00:45:28 2016
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:45:28 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <012001d2031b$a55977b0$f00c6710$@gmail.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>	<027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>	<008c01d202f8$1b3c0930$51b41b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<243E7339AC534591AF27B34BC817D034@eileen>
	<012001d2031b$a55977b0$f00c6710$@gmail.com>
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Hi Bridget,

I purchased my first talking meter in 1990.  It was huge!  I carried it in a backpack.  It was called the Freedom 2.  I was thrilled to use it.  Of course in 1997 they came out with a much smaller meter which used the Comfort Curve strips.  It was so easy and reliable to use.  I believe that one was the one you were using in 2000 because it came in a padded rectangle shaped bag.

Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Wed Aug 31 02:29:19 2016
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:29:19 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 02:35:23 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:35:23 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:29 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


"Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: blindhands at aol.com
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From joystigile at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 03:49:59 2016
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:49:59 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
In-Reply-To: <018d01d20330$53956960$fac03c20$@gmail.com>
References: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>	<012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>	<00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>	<027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>	<008c01d202f8$1b3c0930$51b41b90$@laurelcreekmusic.com>	<243E7339AC534591AF27B34BC817D034@eileen>	<012001d2031b$a55977b0$f00c6710$@gmail.com>	<3D0F4F8F32C04BACA08B41FACD7D9576@eileen>
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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 7:35 PM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
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Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
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Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Aug 31 04:13:49 2016
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:13:49 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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In 1988 I got this funky little meter called the Gluco Check. It didn't talk but it beeped. So if my number was 142 I'd hear one beep, a pause, then four, then a pause, then two more beeps. Boy did I have a heck of a time getting a drop on the strip though. Then I used the One Touch meters for many years. First the One Touch 1, then the 2 and then the Profile. I thought it was so cool because companies back then were making add-on boxes for all these commercial meters. In 1999 I too went to the Accu-chek voicemate. Then I used a non-accessible meter called the Sof-Tact. Man I loved that meter. It was big by today's standards. But I'd just put a strip and a stabber in the thing and I could keep it with me for later use if I was out and about. It was an alternate site meter but boy, there was just no way to make a mistake with it. I did have to connect it up to my laptop to read the number though. When it was discontinued, I switched to the Free Style Lite meter, which I still use today. Just reading this list really shows us just how important it is to have choices. Gee, funny thing, all you companies. Just like sighted people, we here have different likes and dislikes. <grin>
Veronica


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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 7:35 PM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:29 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:30 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:04 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 14:14:43 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:14:43 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
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Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 14:19:59 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:19:59 -0500
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I do not remember the brand, but my favorite meter was the size of a pen. It took my reading in under a minute, which was fast back then. I think this was the mid-90s. It came in a case that looked like a checkbook. Perfect for my little purses, grin.

Right before I started losing my vision, I had a meter that also was an insulin pen. The top of the device was the meter, which was fast and accurate, and the bottom was the insulin pen. The entire device fit in the palm of my hand, so rather small. I liked this meter too because it had the added convenience of being my insulin pen too. A two-in-one device, very handy.

Options are nice. Apparently when you're blind, you stop caring about choices, smirk.

Bridgit

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In 1988 I got this funky little meter called the Gluco Check. It didn't talk but it beeped. So if my number was 142 I'd hear one beep, a pause, then four, then a pause, then two more beeps. Boy did I have a heck of a time getting a drop on the strip though. Then I used the One Touch meters for many years. First the One Touch 1, then the 2 and then the Profile. I thought it was so cool because companies back then were making add-on boxes for all these commercial meters. In 1999 I too went to the Accu-chek voicemate. Then I used a non-accessible meter called the Sof-Tact. Man I loved that meter. It was big by today's standards. But I'd just put a strip and a stabber in the thing and I could keep it with me for later use if I was out and about. It was an alternate site meter but boy, there was just no way to make a mistake with it. I did have to connect it up to my laptop to read the number though. When it was discontinued, I switched to the Free Style Lite meter, which I still use today. Just reading this list really shows us just how important it is to have choices. Gee, funny thing, all you companies. Just like sighted people, we here have different likes and dislikes. <grin> Veronica


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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
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Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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To learn more, visit:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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From bwilliamson at redeemer.net  Wed Aug 31 15:07:02 2016
From: bwilliamson at redeemer.net (Bonna Williamson)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:07:02 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8
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Hello there, Bonna Williamson here from often, I have used it meant Tronic insulin pump for the last 10 years. I'm currently I've updated my pump to the med Tronic rebel it appears to be easy to work with only Deltones however, like many of us know there are so many of the functions that I am an able to use I also use the Dexcom G5 continuous glucose monitor that way I can see Mark my records on my iPhone. Hope this helps Bonna

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>   1. to the pump users (blindhands at aol.com)
>   2. Re: to the pump users (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>   3. Re: to the pump users (Veronica Elsea)
>   4. Re: to the pump users (blindhands at aol.com)
>   5. Re: to the pump users (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:31:55 -0400
> From: <blindhands at aol.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
> one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
> for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
> have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 10:49:45 -0500
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
> Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
> this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
> one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
> for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
> have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:01:22 -0700
> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
> warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
> Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
> T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
> accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
> pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
> 10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
> longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
> There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
> the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
> The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
> hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
> that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
> was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
> Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
> Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
> this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
> one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
> for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
> have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> creekmusic.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:39:24 -0400
> From: <blindhands at aol.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new
> CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to
> make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to
> wait and check out what they do.
> 
> It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your
> IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test
> on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the
> aps they have for this does not work with voice over.
> 
> Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
> warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
> Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
> T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
> accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
> pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
> 10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
> longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
> There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
> the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
> The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
> hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
> that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
> was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
> Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
> Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
> this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
> one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
> for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
> have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:04:01 -0500
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes
> of it or not, at least it's being addressed.
> 
> Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump
> accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new
> CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to
> make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to
> wait and check out what they do.
> 
> It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your
> IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test
> on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the
> aps they have for this does not work with voice over.
> 
> Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of
> warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that
> Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem
> T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared
> accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a
> pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
> 10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no
> longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
> There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not
> the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
> The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your
> hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one
> that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I
> was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
> Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The
> Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of
> this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only
> one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions
> for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to
> have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 15:12:32 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:12:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <CD90C409-2B63-4D30-BFCB-85C5A5C680E3@redeemer.net>
References: <mailman.53.1472558402.17786.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<CD90C409-2B63-4D30-BFCB-85C5A5C680E3@redeemer.net>
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I've always done my bolses and corrections manually with the touch bolus on
my pump, even when I had a Cosmo, but I'm playing around with the advance
settings and plan to figure out the internal bolus and correction functions.
See how it goes and let anyone interested know.

So far, I like my Animas and have not had major problems, other than the
fact it does not talk, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bonna Williamson via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:07 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bonna Williamson <bwilliamson at redeemer.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8

Hello there, Bonna Williamson here from often, I have used it meant Tronic
insulin pump for the last 10 years. I'm currently I've updated my pump to
the med Tronic rebel it appears to be easy to work with only Deltones
however, like many of us know there are so many of the functions that I am
an able to use I also use the Dexcom G5 continuous glucose monitor that way
I can see Mark my records on my iPhone. Hope this helps Bonna

Sent from my iPhone

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>   3. Re: to the pump users (Veronica Elsea)
>   4. Re: to the pump users (blindhands at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:31:55 -0400
> From: <blindhands at aol.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <010f01d2020a$79f8e950$6deabbf0$@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the 
> only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more 
> questions for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would 
> like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 10:49:45 -0500
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <012201d2020c$f7596620$e60c3260$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 
> years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in 
> June of this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the 
> only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more 
> questions for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would 
> like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:01:22 -0700
> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <00cb01d20238$7fa687d0$7ef39770$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of 
> warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping 
> that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the 
> Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared 
> accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately 
> it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than 
> what we had
> 10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but 
> it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my
Cozmo goes.
> There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. 
> Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
> The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get 
> your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you 
> should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is 
> a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for
it. Darn!
> Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 
> years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in 
> June of this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the 
> only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more 
> questions for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would 
> like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> laurel
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:39:24 -0400
> From: <blindhands at aol.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <004801d2024e$95430df0$bfc929d0$@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a 
> new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they 
> need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds 
> good, but need to wait and check out what they do.
> 
> It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to 
> your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your 
> blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can 
> review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.
> 
> Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of 
> warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping 
> that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the 
> Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared 
> accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately 
> it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than 
> what we had
> 10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but 
> it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my
Cozmo goes.
> There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. 
> Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
> The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get 
> your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you 
> should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is 
> a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for
it. Darn!
> Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 
> years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in 
> June of this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the 
> only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more 
> questions for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would 
> like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:04:01 -0500
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> Message-ID: <027f01d20252$068c7d90$13a578b0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something 
> comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.
> 
> Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump 
> accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 6:39 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a 
> new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they 
> need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds 
> good, but need to wait and check out what they do.
> 
> It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to 
> your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your 
> blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can 
> review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.
> 
> Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.
> 
> Joyce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 5:01 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of 
> warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping 
> that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the 
> Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared 
> accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately 
> it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than 
> what we had
> 10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but 
> it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my
Cozmo goes.
> There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. 
> Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid.
> The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get 
> your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you 
> should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is 
> a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for
it. Darn!
> Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.
> 
> I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 
> years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.
> 
> I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in 
> June of this year.
> 
> If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> blindhands--- via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
> 
> Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?
> 
> I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the 
> only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more 
> questions for me?
> 
> Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??
> 
> Is this your first pump?
> 
> Have you used any other pumps? 
> 
> 
> I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would 
> like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Joyce Kane
> Blindhands at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> creekmusic.com
> 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 16:10:19 2016
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary melconian)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:10:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re questio nabout cgm and can you use without
 insulin pump
Message-ID: <00bd01d203a2$2c2d5780$84880680$@gmail.com>

I have one question about cgm.so can you use a cgm without an insulin pump.
If so I wil ask that of my endocrinologist when I see him next month. My
endocrinologist also has type 2 diabetes and he is a very nice and
knowledgeable guy on the matter.  he prescribed me inhalable  insulin
Afrezza.  So I will be seeing how that works. That  is an inhalable rapid
acting insulin .  he also gave me toujio  instead of lantice  for long
lasting insulin and  once a wweek Trulicity he said its acts like a hormone
thathe body does not produce wen you hd type 2 diabets for a long time. I
will b seeing how this works for me. So ffar so good on keeping track.  a




From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 16:16:56 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re questio nabout cgm and can you use without
 insulin pump
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No pump required for a CGM. While some pumps have their own CGM that
interacts with the pump, many are independent devices. The Dexcum is the
only CGM that's accessible however. At least, the app is accessible. But you
do not need a pump to use it.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re questio nabout cgm and can you use without
insulin pump

I have one question about cgm.so can you use a cgm without an insulin pump.
If so I wil ask that of my endocrinologist when I see him next month. My
endocrinologist also has type 2 diabetes and he is a very nice and
knowledgeable guy on the matter.  he prescribed me inhalable  insulin
Afrezza.  So I will be seeing how that works. That  is an inhalable rapid
acting insulin .  he also gave me toujio  instead of lantice  for long
lasting insulin and  once a wweek Trulicity he said its acts like a hormone
thathe body does not produce wen you hd type 2 diabets for a long time. I
will b seeing how this works for me. So ffar so good on keeping track.  a


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From blindhands at aol.com  Wed Aug 31 23:23:26 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:23:26 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re questio nabout cgm and can you use without
 insulin pump
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I was a little surprised to hear that a friend of mine that is followed by
an indocrinologist at Yale New Haven Hospital went as an out patient to have
her blood sugars tested out and wore a Dextrom CGM for 5 days.  She then
returned it all back and got the results of it at her next visit.

Now I think that is fantastic!  Do you know if they are doing this in your
area?

I have just had my second denial from my insurance company for the CGM.  I
have an advocate that is working on the denials.  I am just 65 and I have
United Health and they are standing with Medicare on refusal of payment for
the CGM.  I still have a little more to go before I can not appeal it.
Right now it has been sent to an outside resource to be looked at, so until
I get an answer back from this, then it will be considered the second
denial.

United Health has approved the Medtronics 530G.  When I first started down
this rode I was told that they would not approve the 530G as it has the
sensors on board and they would approve the older model.  United Health did
approve the 530G model for me, but so far I am fighting for the CGM as I
need the auto turn off of the pump for up to 2 hours with sugars going too
low.  I don't feel reactions any more  and have been found on the floor to
frequently unconscious.  I do live by myself since my husband died 2 years
ago.

I will let everyone know how I make out with the insurance company.

Joyce

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<bwilliamson at redeemer.net>
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] re questio nabout cgm and can you use without
insulin pump

I have one question about cgm.so can you use a cgm without an insulin pump.
If so I wil ask that of my endocrinologist when I see him next month. My
endocrinologist also has type 2 diabetes and he is a very nice and
knowledgeable guy on the matter.  he prescribed me inhalable  insulin
Afrezza.  So I will be seeing how that works. That  is an inhalable rapid
acting insulin .  he also gave me toujio  instead of lantice  for long
lasting insulin and  once a wweek Trulicity he said its acts like a hormone
thathe body does not produce wen you hd type 2 diabets for a long time. I
will b seeing how this works for me. So ffar so good on keeping track.  a


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From blindhands at aol.com  Wed Aug 31 23:38:51 2016
From: blindhands at aol.com (blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:38:51 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at?  Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:15 AM
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Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:07 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' 
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter 
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:50 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
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From bkpollpeter at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 23:46:12 2016
From: bkpollpeter at gmail.com (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:46:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users
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The Dexcum cost between $1000 and $1500.

The Dexcum is an independent CGM. It does not "work" with any pump. It therefore can be used by people who are non-pump users as well as pump users.

The only benefit to having a CGM interact directly with a pump is it can exchange information, allowing the pump to react and respond to the data the CGM sends. Which is a great thing, but it's also completely okay, as we know, to retrieve data from a CGM and respond accordingly with our pump ourselves.

It's really a matter of preference.

Bridgit

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I think from what I have heard so far that the pump that Medtronics have out is almost that amount now.  They are really careful not to let you know how much this machine goes for.  So I figure between the pump and the CGM that has to be really close to the $10,000 mark.

Does anyone know how much the Dextrum is priced at?  Why does the Dextrum not work fully with the Medtronic pump.  I know there is a CGM that does work with Medtronic pump, but it does not have good write up's as the Dextrum.

Joyce

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So yep, decades before talking meters were available, and then, as usual, they cost an arm and a leg, grin.

So likely talking pumps will eventually exist, but looks like we have another couple of decades to go, and then they will likely cost $10,000, smirk.

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Hi Bridget,

The first meter came out for "home use" in the 70's but, they were very costly.  In 1984 the cost came down to $500 and I purchased my first meter.  I still had enough eyesight to use it back then.  Before 1984 I would hold the strip to the color chart on the side of the bottle to get the range for the result.

Joy


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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
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And do we know when the first home meters were available on the market? 40s? 50s?

Still talking decades before accessibility was considered for blind diabetics.

Bridgit

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In 1983 I did the promo for Berringer Manheim for what I believe was the first accessible talking meter and if my memory is working properly I?m pretty sure it was called the Freedom.  It was huge and was assembled in a hard-shell case that was pretty hefty.  Promoted as ?portable?. Looking back now that was laughable. .  From there I went to using the acucheck system that I loved and had for years.  The Acu check was a dream in comparison to the Freedom. 

Eileen

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Just curious. For those who have been blind diabetics for a while, when did accessible meters hit the market?

I realize a meter is more crucial to diabetes management, but they weren't always accessible, I imagine. Even when I first lost my sight, Prodigy had not quite come out with its talking meter. I had to use this huge, clunky one that had its own purse just for the meter. Not trendy at all for someone in their early 20s, LOL!

So, even though pumps are not necessarily crucial to our management, with their growing popularity, and more people being placed on pumps, type one's and twos alike, you would think eventually an accessible version would come out like the meters did.

Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but one would just think...

Bridgit

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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

I have a Medtronics pump and am extremely happy with it.  If its the right pump to help a diabetic gain better control than that?s the primary point to consider.

The brand & type of pump a person chooses to go with is a personal decision. Speaking only for myself, I  am over-all happy with the Medtronics pump and its helped me improve control and I find it pretty useable.  No matter who the manufacturer, when/if there is an accessible pump out there I would give serious consideration to changing over in a heartbeat?no brand loyalty until one of them actually comes up with something that is accessible.  

For now, its all moot because it doesn?t exist, yet. Until its here, its not.  All we can do is pick the easiest, most workable option given our own abilities.

Eileen

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It would have to be way way beyond fantastic before I'd touch it. I just can't support the company that ran a really good one out of business. It's a shame just how ugly the medical business actually is. It doesn't feel like profit is our friend, not to me anyway. 
And a CEO can say anything. All the same, it would be nice if someone meant it. 
Veronica


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Well, at least someone is addressing accessibility. Whether something comes of it or not, at least it's being addressed.

Always keep in mind though, it would likely take years to make a pump accessible, if anyone were to jump on it.

Bridgit

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I don't know if this is good news or not.  Medtronics recently got a new CEO.  He had a meeting with the employees and apparently said they need to make insulin pumps more accessible for the blind.  Sounds good, but need to wait and check out what they do.

It really gets me that the talk is with Bluetooth records get sent to your IPhone, Messages/warnings can go out to family members, get your blood test on your IPhone or send to whatever so your doctor can review it.  And the aps they have for this does not work with voice over.

Even the diaries and charts, graphs we don't get that information.

Joyce

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Joyce, I am still using my Deltec Cozmo, even though it's long out of warranty and no longer manufactured. In addition to the Animas Ping that Bridgit mentioned, there is the Animas Vibe, the OmniPod and the Tandem T-Slim. I did an article for the Braille Monitor which compared accessibility in all of the current pumps out there. Unfortunately it's a pretty sad report. Today's pumps are much less accessible than what we had
10 years ago or more. I started using the Disetronic pump in 1991 but it no longer exists either. I honestly don't know what I'll do when my Cozmo goes.
There are so many useful features on pumps that we can't get at today. Not the best state of affairs, I'm afraid. 
The best thing for you to do might be to get someone to let you get your hands on several pumps. Given how much is not accessible, you should get one that you like the feel of, the size, etc. The Tandem is a touch screen and I was unsuccessful at creating a workable template for it. Darn! 
Let us know if you need any more info. Good luck.
Veronica


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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Joyce,

I use the Animas Ping. I have been using the Animas for 3 years now.

I used a DelTech Cosmo prior to the Animas. I used a Cosmo for 9 years. The Cosmo is no longer manufactured though.

I wrote an article on the Animas Ping in the Braille Monitor back in June of this year.

If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bridgit

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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] to the pump users

Could you please share with me wwhich insulin pump you are using?

I only know of the Medtronic MiniMed 530G or should I say this is the only one I have gathered information on.  Could you answer a few more questions for me?

Name and version of Pump being used now or maker of pump??

Is this your first pump?

Have you used any other pumps? 


I am talking to my doctor and she has recommended a pump.  I would like to have more info from blind folks who use a pump.
Thank you so much.

Joyce Kane
Blindhands at aol.com 




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