From Blindhands at aol.com  Thu Aug  8 01:02:15 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:02:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
Message-ID: <91609.6fd158b6.3f344816@aol.com>

I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail  order?  
Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which  chains?
 
I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and 
now I need someone sighted to check for me.
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com 

From natemaster at atmc.net  Thu Aug  8 01:22:28 2013
From: natemaster at atmc.net (Douglas Billiar)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:22:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
References: <91609.6fd158b6.3f344816@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009d01ce93d5$bfcaa910$0b32a8c0@laptop>


Hi,

     I get my Prodigy strips from my local Walgreen's.  I also buy them cash 
on-line from American Diabetes Wholesale for less than $15 for a 50 strip 
bottle.


   Doug Billiar
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please


>I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail  order?
> Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which 
> chains?
>
> I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and
> now I need someone sighted to check for me.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  8 02:42:26 2013
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandi Ryan)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:42:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
In-Reply-To: <91609.6fd158b6.3f344816@aol.com>
References: <91609.6fd158b6.3f344816@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E6A33AF48AD4449A8260A8A083B49B82@SandiPC>

Hi Joyce,

Today I picked up 50 Prodigy strips from my local Walgreens.  They do not 
carry them in stock all the time, but were able to procure them for me 
between last Friday and Monday (I wasn't able to pick them up until today). 
My doctor prescribes the strips I need.  I paid only $2.08 out of pocket.  I 
am also on Medicare, plus a supplemental plan and Part D prescription plan, 
too.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:02 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please


>I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail  order?
> Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which 
> chains?
>
> I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and
> now I need someone sighted to check for me.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
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> 




From mota1252 at samobile.net  Thu Aug  8 13:25:51 2013
From: mota1252 at samobile.net (Milton Ota)
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:25:51 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
Message-ID: 34fa8237-c616-4438-bb3f-24fe55abac99@samobile.net

You should be able to get your test strips from all of the major 
pharmacy suppliers that accept Medicare Part B. this will include all 
the major mail order pharmacies as well. Call around.

Original message:
> I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail  order?
> Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which  chains?

> I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and
> now I need someone sighted to check for me.

> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Aug  8 19:18:27 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:18:27 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
In-Reply-To: 34fa8237-c616-4438-bb3f-24fe55abac99@samobile.net
References: 34fa8237-c616-4438-bb3f-24fe55abac99@samobile.net
Message-ID: <00a901ce946c$101da480$3058ed80$@panix.com>

Tip: Ask for Prodigy autocode strips; they'll work in the Prodigy Voice and
pharmacies may be more familiar with the Autocode. Still, you may run into
the conundrum that the pharmacies that have the Autocode on their formulary
may not have been the low bidder on those blasted Medicare DME contracts.

NFB Governmental Affairs and I are working on a response to this.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 6:26 AM
To: blindhands at aol.com
Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help please

You should be able to get your test strips from all of the major 
pharmacy suppliers that accept Medicare Part B. this will include all 
the major mail order pharmacies as well. Call around.

Original message:
> I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail  order?
> Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which
chains?

> I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and
> now I need someone sighted to check for me.

> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>
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le.net

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From jerry.hathaway2 at frontier.com  Thu Aug  8 20:38:48 2013
From: jerry.hathaway2 at frontier.com (gryphon007)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:38:48 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
References: 34fa8237-c616-4438-bb3f-24fe55abac99@samobile.net
	<00a901ce946c$101da480$3058ed80$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <49F3780DC7FE4B02975548110234E1B1@gerryc1e917cbc>

This company has diabetes supplies for the Prodigy and Solo blood testers.
Arriva Medical

866-263-6717



Jerry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help please


> Tip: Ask for Prodigy autocode strips; they'll work in the Prodigy Voice 
> and
> pharmacies may be more familiar with the Autocode. Still, you may run into
> the conundrum that the pharmacies that have the Autocode on their 
> formulary
> may not have been the low bidder on those blasted Medicare DME contracts.
>
> NFB Governmental Affairs and I are working on a response to this.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Milton Ota
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 6:26 AM
> To: blindhands at aol.com
> Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
>
> You should be able to get your test strips from all of the major
> pharmacy suppliers that accept Medicare Part B. this will include all
> the major mail order pharmacies as well. Call around.
>
> Original message:
>> I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail 
>> order?
>> Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which
> chains?
>
>> I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and
>> now I need someone sighted to check for me.
>
>> Joyce  Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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> le.net
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 04:43:31 2013
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:43:31 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please
References: <91609.6fd158b6.3f344816@aol.com>
Message-ID: <031D5ABF3A8340BC85984EEE49B6A7D8@DBTOA000>

Dear Joyce,

It has been hard for me to find a company to get Prodigy strips because I 
only have Medicare.  I ordered from:
 Allstate  Diabetic supplies
800-362-0050

All of the companies charge the same price who are under Medicare.  It did 
take 3 weeks to receive the strips.  I also had to order at my cost a 
container at full price to fill the gap of time.  I did not remember about 
Walgreen.

Good luck!

Warmly, Joy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help please


>I just went on Medicare.  Where can I get Prodigy test strips mail  order?
> Do you know if any of the chain Pharmacys can order them and which 
> chains?
>
> I need to get some ASAP.  I thought I had another bottle of 50 left  and
> now I need someone sighted to check for me.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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From Blindhands at aol.com  Tue Aug 13 23:50:54 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:50:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
Message-ID: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>

I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.   
Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
 
Help please has anyone else found this out?
 
How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if 
I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them out 
at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back  at 
that time.
 
I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies 
and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get and 
where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I 
will have trouble getting the strips.
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com 

From mouseless at mindspring.com  Wed Aug 14 00:07:33 2013
From: mouseless at mindspring.com (Debbie)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:07:33 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2D32B0E954134A92A1E265CD1F6C092B@OwnerPC>

One meter a friend of mine uses is called MBrace, and it seems to work like 
the Prodigy meter.

Hope that helps!

Debbie Human

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them 
> out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back 
> at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get 
> and
> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
> will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
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From kellym at prodigymeter.com  Wed Aug 14 00:17:12 2013
From: kellym at prodigymeter.com (Kelly Massaro)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 00:17:12 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <55D182D2-9F51-4747-8FD4-2340EA106759@prodigymeter.com>

Prodigy strips have not been discontinued. Please call me off line and I can help. We're doing business with 98 percent of the Medicare national mail order providers as well as retailers. 

Kelly Massaro
Prodigy Diabetes Care
704-458-9400

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:51 PM, "Blindhands at aol.com" <Blindhands at aol.com> wrote:

> I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.   
> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> 
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
> 
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if 
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them out 
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back  at 
> that time.
> 
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies 
> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get and 
> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I 
> will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-talk:
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From mota1252 at samobile.net  Wed Aug 14 00:30:41 2013
From: mota1252 at samobile.net (Milton Ota)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:30:41 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
Message-ID: ce21c0e7-70eb-4e6a-bd41-911a3a4adad4@samobile.net

Apparently there is a new NDC number for the test strips and when my 
pharmacy ran it through it was accepted. The number I was given is NDC 
08484072500. Strips were then ordered.

This imformation was obtained from the manufacturer of the Prodogy 
Meter by speaking to someone via the toll-free number.
You can reach them at 24/7 Customer Care Center
 1.800.243.2636

HTH




Original message:
> I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.

> Help please has anyone else found this out?

> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back  at
> that time.

> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get and
> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
> will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mota1252%40samobile.net



From kellym at prodigymeter.com  Wed Aug 14 00:34:41 2013
From: kellym at prodigymeter.com (Kelly Massaro)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 00:34:41 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: ce21c0e7-70eb-4e6a-bd41-911a3a4adad4@samobile.net
References: ce21c0e7-70eb-4e6a-bd41-911a3a4adad4@samobile.net
Message-ID: <6B447F18-EC17-4918-9A0F-3F2269A3EBB7@prodigymeter.com>

Thank you! I didn't mean to be so brief I was getting off an airplane 

Kelly 
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:31 PM, "Milton Ota" <mota1252 at samobile.net> wrote:

> Apparently there is a new NDC number for the test strips and when my pharmacy ran it through it was accepted. The number I was given is NDC 08484072500. Strips were then ordered.
> 
> This imformation was obtained from the manufacturer of the Prodogy Meter by speaking to someone via the toll-free number.
> You can reach them at 24/7 Customer Care Center
> 1.800.243.2636
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original message:
>> I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
>> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> 
>> Help please has anyone else found this out?
> 
>> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
>> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them out
>> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back  at
>> that time.
> 
>> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
>> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get and
>> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
>> will have trouble getting the strips.
>> Joyce  Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mota1252%40samobile.net
> 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 00:34:47 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:34:47 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <2D32B0E954134A92A1E265CD1F6C092B@OwnerPC>
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
	<2D32B0E954134A92A1E265CD1F6C092B@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <521147CD-8220-4025-B333-27270D0AB050@panix.com>

I believe it only says the current reading and one needs sighted assistance to review readings. 
Mike 

On Aug 13, 2013, at 17:07, "Debbie" <mouseless at mindspring.com> wrote:

> One meter a friend of mine uses is called MBrace, and it seems to work like the Prodigy meter.
> 
> Hope that helps!
> 
> Debbie Human
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:50 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> 
>> I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
>> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>> 
>> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>> 
>> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
>> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them out
>> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back at
>> that time.
>> 
>> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
>> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get and
>> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
>> will have trouble getting the strips.
>> Joyce  Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/mouseless%40mindspring.com 
> 
> 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 03:09:52 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:09:52 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic
In-Reply-To: <E98568BB-B366-4219-9162-C89E0447B1BF@me.com>
References: <E98568BB-B366-4219-9162-C89E0447B1BF@me.com>
Message-ID: <003101ce989b$bf2a3410$3d7e9c30$@panix.com>

Greetings.

I cannot vouch for the iPhone app listed below but intend to take a look.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Wcb-l [mailto:wcb-l-bounces at wcbinfo.org] On Behalf Of Kim Moberg
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:41 PM
To: WCB List
Subject: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic

As a newly diagnosed diabetic and a person that uses apps on the iPhone for
just about everything i thought you all might be interested in an app that I
found that I could use to keep track of my blood sugars. The other reason I
thought I would let you know about it because it works with Voiceover. The
app is called "Glucose Recorder". Each entry allows you to enter your
glucose level, the time and date you checked your blood, when it was checked
say you checked it before breakfast or like 2 hours after lunch for example.
There is also a place to enter a note if you need to like you were sick that
day or you had pizza for lunch. You can print a report for your doctor of
all your glucose testing values or you can even email them to your doctor.
There is also a graph thT can be printed or emailed as well. 

I have been using this app for the last couple of weeks to track my levels
and then send them to my doctors office so that they can adjust my meds
accordingly. 

Just thought I would share.
Kim

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From fidano at comcast.net  Wed Aug 14 03:18:18 2013
From: fidano at comcast.net (Tamera)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:18:18 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy
Message-ID: <002b01ce989c$ee3a95a0$caafc0e0$@comcast.net>

When was the prodigy last updated?
I know some here posted about ADS no longer accepting Medicare, but my soap
box has and always will be... the over charge of medical items. 
A while back I posted, as my husband changed jobs and my strips must come
via pharmacy.. one offered such, but they are not a mail order so  put on
hold... now ADS has a pharmacy, but fee, my copay is the same cost to me as
purchasing my strips via amazon. And send me lancets at $21, pre 2 boxes I
did not request.
I wish more, not just on this list were  aware of what pharmacies and supply
store charge our insurance, and our co-pay, as this is one of the big  screw
ups in our Us med system.. at least its my opinion and experience.
I know insurance will reduce to an allowable amount, but if my copay is the
same as via amazon? Yes, I need tow match for dates etc.,  but....
As a diabetic I do not need the stress?
Tamera	

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:17 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please

Prodigy strips have not been discontinued. Please call me off line and I can
help. We're doing business with 98 percent of the Medicare national mail
order providers as well as retailers. 

Kelly Massaro
Prodigy Diabetes Care
704-458-9400

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:51 PM, "Blindhands at aol.com" <Blindhands at aol.com>
wrote:

> I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.   
> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> 
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
> 
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if

> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them
out 
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back
at 
> that time.
> 
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies

> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get
and 
> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I

> will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com 
> _______________________________________________
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 04:40:38 2013
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandi Ryan)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:40:38 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <54F878A853DD4677928098874CC16E39@SandiPC>

Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last week.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them 
> out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back 
> at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get 
> and
> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
> will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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> 




From bpollpeter at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 14 04:51:19 2013
From: bpollpeter at hotmail.com (Bridgit Pollpeter)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:51:19 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <54F878A853DD4677928098874CC16E39@SandiPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP14918BD73C416E35B23BD98C4450@phx.gbl>

I use a Prodigy and have no problems getting test strips. I use a local
pharmacy.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last week.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.  
>Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not
sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  
> them
> out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
back 
> at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  
> supplies and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  
> should get and where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now,

> but  afraid that I will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>
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> 


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From bestsinger at samobile.net  Wed Aug 14 07:23:21 2013
From: bestsinger at samobile.net (Dorothea Martin)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 03:23:21 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
Message-ID: cb3fac84-b4ff-4e66-8ab0-c4830539cbdc@samobile.net

Hi, Debbie,
Not all functions of the Embrace meter speak, while all functions of 
the Prodigy Voice do. This is different from the Prodigy Autocode, 
which does not have all functions speaking either.
Dotty Martin



From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 14 11:52:52 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:52:52 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <54F878A853DD4677928098874CC16E39@SandiPC>
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>,
	<54F878A853DD4677928098874CC16E39@SandiPC>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W101190A643F69E25A3C60C6A1450@phx.gbl>

I use and love the solus v2 the newest upgrade from the solo meter. problem is that you cannot get strips anywhere, except right now from a place in Melbourne, FL.
I know many of us that have medicare we are running out of options to get our strips, and this is because the medicare providers aren't carrying the strips, we can contact Medicare to ask for a list or go online for all the vendors. 
If President Mike Freeman would like I can go online and get this list and forward it to him.
But Medicare sent out the list months ago supposedly, in non accessible format of course so many of us have no ideas what is going on.

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FL CST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: sjryan2 at gmail.com
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:40:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last week.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> 
> >I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
> > Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> >
> > Help please has anyone else found this out?
> >
> > How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
> > I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them 
> > out
> > at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back 
> > at
> > that time.
> >
> > I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
> > and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get 
> > and
> > where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
> > will have trouble getting the strips.
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > Blindhands at AOL.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > Diabetes-talk:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/sjryan2%40gmail.com
> > 
> 
> 
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From dmgina at samobile.net  Wed Aug 14 13:33:07 2013
From: dmgina at samobile.net (d m gina)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:33:07 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic
Message-ID: 52818df6-c061-474f-b735-b177191f5aab@samobile.net

I have this down loaded where it says glucose r.
then it says it can't open data base.
What is one w.
The cost is $1.99.
If you can share how to run this, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
I am sure I down loaded the correct app.

Original message:
> Greetings.

> I cannot vouch for the iPhone app listed below but intend to take a look.

> Mike Freeman


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wcb-l [mailto:wcb-l-bounces at wcbinfo.org] On Behalf Of Kim Moberg
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:41 PM
> To: WCB List
> Subject: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic

> As a newly diagnosed diabetic and a person that uses apps on the iPhone for
> just about everything i thought you all might be interested in an app that I
> found that I could use to keep track of my blood sugars. The other reason I
> thought I would let you know about it because it works with Voiceover. The
> app is called "Glucose Recorder". Each entry allows you to enter your
> glucose level, the time and date you checked your blood, when it was checked
> say you checked it before breakfast or like 2 hours after lunch for example.
> There is also a place to enter a note if you need to like you were sick that
> day or you had pizza for lunch. You can print a report for your doctor of
> all your glucose testing values or you can even email them to your doctor.
> There is also a graph thT can be printed or emailed as well.

> I have been using this app for the last couple of weeks to track my levels
> and then send them to my doctors office so that they can adjust my meds
> accordingly.

> Just thought I would share.
> Kim

> Sent from my iPhone
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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 13:38:06 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:38:06 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W101190A643F69E25A3C60C6A1450@phx.gbl>
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>,
	<54F878A853DD4677928098874CC16E39@SandiPC>
	<BLU169-W101190A643F69E25A3C60C6A1450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004901ce98f3$8275b4b0$87611e10$@panix.com>

Cheryl:

If you can find such a list, please do send it on to me and also the URL
from which you got it. I'm working on the problem and need all the
information I can get.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
cheryl echevarria
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please

I use and love the solus v2 the newest upgrade from the solo meter. problem
is that you cannot get strips anywhere, except right now from a place in
Melbourne, FL.
I know many of us that have medicare we are running out of options to get
our strips, and this is because the medicare providers aren't carrying the
strips, we can contact Medicare to ask for a list or go online for all the
vendors. 
If President Mike Freeman would like I can go online and get this list and
forward it to him.
But Medicare sent out the list months ago supposedly, in non accessible
format of course so many of us have no ideas what is going on.

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria,
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
#1018299-10 FL CST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for
a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has
partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her
braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: sjryan2 at gmail.com
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:40:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last week.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> 
> >I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
> > Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> >
> > Help please has anyone else found this out?
> >
> > How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure
if
> > I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them 
> > out
> > at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back 
> > at
> > that time.
> >
> > I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing
supplies
> > and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get 
> > and
> > where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that
I
> > will have trouble getting the strips.
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > Blindhands at AOL.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > Diabetes-talk:
> >
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om
> > 
> 
> 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 13:40:17 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:40:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: cb3fac84-b4ff-4e66-8ab0-c4830539cbdc@samobile.net
References: cb3fac84-b4ff-4e66-8ab0-c4830539cbdc@samobile.net
Message-ID: <004a01ce98f3$d09cb990$71d62cb0$@panix.com>

However, many pharmacies are more familiar with the Prodigy autocode so if
you can get a Prodigy Voice, just tell your provider you want Prodigy
autocode strips because they will work in the Voice.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Dorothea Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:23 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please

Hi, Debbie,
Not all functions of the Embrace meter speak, while all functions of 
the Prodigy Voice do. This is different from the Prodigy Autocode, 
which does not have all functions speaking either.
Dotty Martin

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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 13:46:17 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:46:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP14918BD73C416E35B23BD98C4450@phx.gbl>
References: <54F878A853DD4677928098874CC16E39@SandiPC>
	<BLU0-SMTP14918BD73C416E35B23BD98C4450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005001ce98f4$a6dcbf50$f4963df0$@panix.com>

Are you using Medicare to pay for them?

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please

I use a Prodigy and have no problems getting test strips. I use a local
pharmacy.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last week.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.  
>Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not
sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  
> them
> out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
back 
> at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  
> supplies and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  
> should get and where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now,

> but  afraid that I will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>
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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 14:11:24 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:11:24 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic
In-Reply-To: 52818df6-c061-474f-b735-b177191f5aab@samobile.net
References: 52818df6-c061-474f-b735-b177191f5aab@samobile.net
Message-ID: <005401ce98f8$2988ddf0$7c9a99d0$@panix.com>

I know nothing about the app.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
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m gina
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:33 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic

I have this down loaded where it says glucose r.
then it says it can't open data base.
What is one w.
The cost is $1.99.
If you can share how to run this, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
I am sure I down loaded the correct app.

Original message:
> Greetings.

> I cannot vouch for the iPhone app listed below but intend to take a look.

> Mike Freeman


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wcb-l [mailto:wcb-l-bounces at wcbinfo.org] On Behalf Of Kim Moberg
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:41 PM
> To: WCB List
> Subject: [Wcb-l] App for Diabetic

> As a newly diagnosed diabetic and a person that uses apps on the iPhone
for
> just about everything i thought you all might be interested in an app that
I
> found that I could use to keep track of my blood sugars. The other reason
I
> thought I would let you know about it because it works with Voiceover. The
> app is called "Glucose Recorder". Each entry allows you to enter your
> glucose level, the time and date you checked your blood, when it was
checked
> say you checked it before breakfast or like 2 hours after lunch for
example.
> There is also a place to enter a note if you need to like you were sick
that
> day or you had pizza for lunch. You can print a report for your doctor of
> all your glucose testing values or you can even email them to your doctor.
> There is also a graph thT can be printed or emailed as well.

> I have been using this app for the last couple of weeks to track my levels
> and then send them to my doctors office so that they can adjust my meds
> accordingly.

> Just thought I would share.
> Kim

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From bpollpeter at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 14 16:59:46 2013
From: bpollpeter at hotmail.com (Bridgit Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:59:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
In-Reply-To: <005001ce98f4$a6dcbf50$f4963df0$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP186CEAB2B39888665E1CB87C4450@phx.gbl>

Yes. It's through AARP United Healthcare.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:46 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


Are you using Medicare to pay for them?

Mike


-----Original Message-----
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Of Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:51 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please

I use a Prodigy and have no problems getting test strips. I use a local
pharmacy.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
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Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:41 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last week.

Sandi

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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
>Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not
sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving
> them
> out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
back 
> at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing
> supplies and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  
> should get and where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now,

> but  afraid that I will have trouble getting the strips. Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From Blindhands at aol.com  Wed Aug 14 19:13:29 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:13:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
Message-ID: <cc4fb.41a7fc66.3f3d30d9@aol.com>

When I ordered them I was going to pay out of pocket as I didn't any  
hassel.  I just needed now.
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com   

 
In a message dated 8/14/2013 9:48:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
k7uij at panix.com writes:

Are you  using Medicare to pay for them?

Mike


-----Original  Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:51  PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major  problem Help please

I use a Prodigy and have no problems getting test  strips. I use a local
pharmacy.

Bridgit

-----Original  Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf
Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:41 PM
To:  Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help  please


Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last  week.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent:  Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem  Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting  Prodigy test strips.  
>Walgreens notified me today that the strips  have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this  out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten  a solo meter  [not
sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few  years ago when they were giving  
> them
> out
> at NFB  Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
back 
>  at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and   need a place to get my testing  
> supplies and  know I can  get them.  Please let me know which meter I  
> should get and  where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now,

>  but  afraid that I will have trouble getting the strips.
>  Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From joystigile at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 19:50:24 2013
From: joystigile at gmail.com (Joy Stigile)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:50:24 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
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Dear Joyce,

Maybe the person you told that you would be paying the shelf price did not 
pass the message along.  While I was waiting for my Prodigy strips from the 
Medicare approved company to arrive I had to order Prodigy strips from my 
local pharmacy.  My local pharmacy is no longer able to bill Medicare.  So, 
I had to pay the shelf price.

Warmly, Joy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


> When I ordered them I was going to pay out of pocket as I didn't any
> hassel.  I just needed now.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2013 9:48:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> k7uij at panix.com writes:
>
> Are you  using Medicare to pay for them?
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf 
> Of
> Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:51  PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major  problem Help please
>
> I use a Prodigy and have no problems getting test  strips. I use a local
> pharmacy.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf
> Of Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:41 PM
> To:  Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help  please
>
>
> Hmm.  That's surprising, because I just got 50 last  week.
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  <Blindhands at aol.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:50 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem  Help please
>
>
>>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting  Prodigy test strips.
>>Walgreens notified me today that the strips  have been discontinued.
>>
>> Help please has anyone else found this  out?
>>
>> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten  a solo meter  [not
> sure if
>> I am spelling it correctly] a few  years ago when they were giving
>> them
>> out
>> at NFB  Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
> back
>>  at
>> that time.
>>
>> I have just gone on Medicare and   need a place to get my testing
>> supplies and  know I can  get them.  Please let me know which meter I
>> should get and  where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now,
>
>>  but  afraid that I will have trouble getting the strips.
>>  Joyce  Kane
>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>  _______________________________________________
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From Blindhands at aol.com  Wed Aug 14 19:53:37 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:53:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
Message-ID: <cd538.2f302463.3f3d3a41@aol.com>

I have a Prodigy Voice and those are the strips I was trying to get.
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com   

 
In a message dated 8/14/2013 9:43:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
k7uij at panix.com writes:

However,  many pharmacies are more familiar with the Prodigy autocode so if
you can  get a Prodigy Voice, just tell your provider you want Prodigy
autocode  strips because they will work in the  Voice.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From:  Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  Of
Dorothea Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:23 AM
To:  diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help  please

Hi, Debbie,
Not all functions of the Embrace meter speak,  while all functions of 
the Prodigy Voice do. This is different from the  Prodigy Autocode, 
which does not have all functions speaking  either.
Dotty  Martin

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From Blindhands at aol.com  Wed Aug 14 20:01:01 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:01:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Medicare mail order for strips
Message-ID: <cd857.6e8a42c.3f3d3bfd@aol.com>

I called medicare today and got this information from them.
 
I did ask where toto get strips for the Prodigy and Solist 2 meters.   They 
had more to list, but these are the 3 I wrote down.
 
The bottom 2 are located nearer to me on the East Coast.  The last one  had 
both types of strips available.
 
 
mail  order test strips 
american medical supplies - Prodigy 
800  985 8898  
dgc  enterprises - Prodigy 
800  726 9811  
homecare delivered - Prodigy & Solist test strips 
800  565 5644 
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com 

From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 20:09:00 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:09:00 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>
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	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>
Message-ID: <001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>

Greetings.

 

While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining accessible bg
meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by insurers in general
and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that an interim solution to
the problem would be for both Prodigy and Biosense to publish names and
telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible suppliers that carry their equipment.
Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2 and
have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain
information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who are
reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from Kelly, I will
either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the list since she is a
subscriber.

 

I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it justifies
public disclosure of provider contact information.

 

Mike Freeman, President

Diabetes Action Network

National Federation of the Blind

 

 

From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
To: 'Mike Freeman'
Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2

 

HI Mike,

 

We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner with in
the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between the bid
winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was equally
important to us that we not only partner with companies that will support
our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.  While there are
other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their Medicare formulary, the
list below is the companies that we feel best represent the previously
stated criteria.  

 

A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955

Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973

Care Services (800) 633 - 7167

Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277

Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040

Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822

Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900

 

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

 

Best regards,

CG

 

Chris Gwaltney

BioSense Medical Devices 

6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168

Duluth, GA 30097

p 678.276.7075

f 888.620.2345

chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com> 

www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/> 

 

 

 

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From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
To: Chris Gwaltney
Subject: Medicare and Solus V2

 

Dear Chris:

 

Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip providers
go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by medicare and that
Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low bidder in order that
Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most diabetics, of course, this is
not a problem; while they may prefer a certain meter, they can get along
with whatever Medicare will pay for. It's a different matter for blind and
visually impaired persons with diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes
Action Network (DAN) of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there
are only *two* fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in
the United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that
many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and visually
impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no longer supply strips
for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering the problem).

 

I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together a
list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets, strips,
control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply these items via
mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for these supplies. I would
publish such a list for our DAN members and other blind and visually
impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally, I am making the same
suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons deserve a choice and the Solus
V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would do well
by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to CMS/Medicare.

 

I look forward to your response.

 

Mike Freeman, president

Diabetes Action Network

National Federation of the Blind

 



From everett at everettgavel.com  Wed Aug 14 20:13:30 2013
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:13:30 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
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Message-ID: <9F374348CC7C462287438CE309BD05E5@Lisa>

Hi All,

I have 2 reps from Medtronics coming out this 
Friday to show me a pump. One of them has worked 
with multiple blind people supposedly, and that's 
why the other rep is bringing her along. To make 
sure I know how this pump can properly, 
supposedly, be used by a blind person despite 
being only partially accessible. My question is, 
can someone point me to a page(s) with 
descriptions and reviews by blind people, of the 
various pumps available nowadays? I'm embarrassed 
to say I haven't kept up well here, and have 
skipped several conversations regarding pumps in 
the past.

Thanks, All,
Everett





From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 14 20:15:02 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:15:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <9F374348CC7C462287438CE309BD05E5@Lisa>
References: <mailman.39.1376481603.27194.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<9F374348CC7C462287438CE309BD05E5@Lisa>
Message-ID: <001d01ce992a$f609da00$e21d8e00$@panix.com>

Best bet is to look at this list's archives. Insofar as I am aware, there
ain't no such animal as a page with reviews by blind folks of a number of
pumps.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

Hi All,

I have 2 reps from Medtronics coming out this 
Friday to show me a pump. One of them has worked 
with multiple blind people supposedly, and that's 
why the other rep is bringing her along. To make 
sure I know how this pump can properly, 
supposedly, be used by a blind person despite 
being only partially accessible. My question is, 
can someone point me to a page(s) with 
descriptions and reviews by blind people, of the 
various pumps available nowadays? I'm embarrassed 
to say I haven't kept up well here, and have 
skipped several conversations regarding pumps in 
the past.

Thanks, All,
Everett



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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 14 21:02:10 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:02:10 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Medicare mail order for strips
In-Reply-To: <cd857.6e8a42c.3f3d3bfd@aol.com>
References: <cd857.6e8a42c.3f3d3bfd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W25835CF0E39ADF6ED735F3A1450@phx.gbl>

It is is the Solo V2 or the Solus V2 same company. Not the Solist.

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> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:01:01 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Medicare mail order for strips
> 
> I called medicare today and got this information from them.
>  
> I did ask where toto get strips for the Prodigy and Solist 2 meters.   They 
> had more to list, but these are the 3 I wrote down.
>  
> The bottom 2 are located nearer to me on the East Coast.  The last one  had 
> both types of strips available.
>  
>  
> mail  order test strips 
> american medical supplies - Prodigy 
> 800  985 8898  
> dgc  enterprises - Prodigy 
> 800  726 9811  
> homecare delivered - Prodigy & Solist test strips 
> 800  565 5644 
>  
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com 
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From jerry.hathaway2 at frontier.com  Wed Aug 14 21:19:58 2013
From: jerry.hathaway2 at frontier.com (Jerry Hathaway)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:19:58 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
References: <24ff2.45276744.3f3c205e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <58EF735C29784F959EC12BBA074E0E61@gerryc1e917cbc>

I get my Prodigy voice strips from Arriva Medical
866-263-6717 and I believe they also have the Solo strips. I am on Medicare 
and Medicaid in Oregon.
Jerry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:50 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please


>I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.
> Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
>
> Help please has anyone else found this out?
>
> How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
> I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them 
> out
> at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back 
> at
> that time.
>
> I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
> and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get 
> and
> where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
> will have trouble getting the strips.
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Wed Aug 14 22:27:51 2013
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:27:51 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <001d01ce992a$f609da00$e21d8e00$@panix.com>
References: <mailman.39.1376481603.27194.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>	<9F374348CC7C462287438CE309BD05E5@Lisa>
	<001d01ce992a$f609da00$e21d8e00$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <004501ce993d$83830660$8a891320$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

You beat me to it, Mike. I sure don't know of any such place containing
reviews of all pumps by blind people. But it is absolutely worth inviting a
bunch of different reps to visit you and let you play with their pumps. Just
as sighted people are, we all have different ways that make sense to our
brains and one person's Heaven is another person's nightmare. <grin> 
And your discussion changes if you are looking to wear a continuous glucose
monitor at the same time. The Medtronic isn't more accessible than any of
the others that are out now so there's no harm in having a snoop. If you
want more contact with some of us who use other pumps, just feel free to
ask. Happy snooping.
Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:15 PM
To: 'Everett Gavel'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

Best bet is to look at this list's archives. Insofar as I am aware, there
ain't no such animal as a page with reviews by blind folks of a number of
pumps.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:13 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

Hi All,

I have 2 reps from Medtronics coming out this 
Friday to show me a pump. One of them has worked 
with multiple blind people supposedly, and that's 
why the other rep is bringing her along. To make 
sure I know how this pump can properly, 
supposedly, be used by a blind person despite 
being only partially accessible. My question is, 
can someone point me to a page(s) with 
descriptions and reviews by blind people, of the 
various pumps available nowadays? I'm embarrassed 
to say I haven't kept up well here, and have 
skipped several conversations regarding pumps in 
the past.

Thanks, All,
Everett



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From kellym at prodigymeter.com  Wed Aug 14 23:31:08 2013
From: kellym at prodigymeter.com (Kelly Massaro)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:31:08 +0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>
	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been training and traveling today. 

I appreciate the opportunity. 

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> 
> 
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining accessible bg
> meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by insurers in general
> and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that an interim solution to
> the problem would be for both Prodigy and Biosense to publish names and
> telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2 and
> have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who are
> reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from Kelly, I will
> either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the list since she is a
> subscriber.
> 
> 
> 
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it justifies
> public disclosure of provider contact information.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, President
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> HI Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner with in
> the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between the bid
> winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was equally
> important to us that we not only partner with companies that will support
> our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.  While there are
> other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their Medicare formulary, the
> list below is the companies that we feel best represent the previously
> stated criteria.  
> 
> 
> 
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
> 
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
> 
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
> 
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
> 
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
> 
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
> 
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
> 
> 
> 
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> CG
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Gwaltney
> 
> BioSense Medical Devices 
> 
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
> 
> Duluth, GA 30097
> 
> p 678.276.7075
> 
> f 888.620.2345
> 
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com> 
> 
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Chris:
> 
> 
> 
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip providers
> go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by medicare and that
> Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low bidder in order that
> Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most diabetics, of course, this is
> not a problem; while they may prefer a certain meter, they can get along
> with whatever Medicare will pay for. It's a different matter for blind and
> visually impaired persons with diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes
> Action Network (DAN) of the National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there
> are only *two* fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in
> the United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and visually
> impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no longer supply strips
> for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering the problem).
> 
> 
> 
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together a
> list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets, strips,
> control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply these items via
> mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for these supplies. I would
> publish such a list for our DAN members and other blind and visually
> impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally, I am making the same
> suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would do well
> by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to CMS/Medicare.
> 
> 
> 
> I look forward to your response.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, president
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
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From bpollpeter at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 15 02:09:42 2013
From: bpollpeter at hotmail.com (Bridgit Pollpeter)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:09:42 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <9F374348CC7C462287438CE309BD05E5@Lisa>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP374FD63689532D78CA57DCFC4460@phx.gbl>

First, I'm also not aware of any such reviews. Second, a word of caution
about any rep *knowing* what is possible and not possible for a blind
person with a pump. When I started using mine, I was told 99% of the
pump I wouldn't be able to use. On my own, I played with features and
use much more than 99%. I'm still very limited in what features I can
use, but it's still more than those with the *knowledge* said I would be
able to use.

The Medtronic Mini is a good pump, but one thing I don't like is that
when you need to change a basal rate, you have to go through and
re-enter each basal rate. This seems very inefficient. I currently use a
Cosmo, which is no longer available, and I will start using an Animas
Ping soon, which is very comparable to the Cosmo.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Everett Gavel
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:14 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?


Hi All,

I have 2 reps from Medtronics coming out this 
Friday to show me a pump. One of them has worked 
with multiple blind people supposedly, and that's 
why the other rep is bringing her along. To make 
sure I know how this pump can properly, 
supposedly, be used by a blind person despite 
being only partially accessible. My question is, 
can someone point me to a page(s) with 
descriptions and reviews by blind people, of the 
various pumps available nowadays? I'm embarrassed 
to say I haven't kept up well here, and have 
skipped several conversations regarding pumps in 
the past.

Thanks, All,
Everett



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From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Aug 15 02:22:44 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:22:44 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>
	<AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>
Message-ID: <001b01ce995e$54b29b90$fe17d2b0$@panix.com>

Great! Rest up.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been
training and traveling today. 

I appreciate the opportunity. 

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> 
> 
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining 
> accessible bg meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by 
> insurers in general and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that 
> an interim solution to the problem would be for both Prodigy and 
> Biosense to publish names and telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible
suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2 
> and have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain 
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who 
> are reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from 
> Kelly, I will either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the 
> list since she is a subscriber.
> 
> 
> 
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it 
> justifies public disclosure of provider contact information.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, President
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> HI Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner 
> with in the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between 
> the bid winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was 
> equally important to us that we not only partner with companies that 
> will support our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.  
> While there are other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their 
> Medicare formulary, the list below is the companies that we feel best 
> represent the previously stated criteria.
> 
> 
> 
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
> 
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
> 
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
> 
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
> 
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
> 
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
> 
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
> 
> 
> 
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> CG
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Gwaltney
> 
> BioSense Medical Devices
> 
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
> 
> Duluth, GA 30097
> 
> p 678.276.7075
> 
> f 888.620.2345
> 
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com>
> 
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> ___
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents 
> contain information belonging to the sender and recipient, which may 
> be confidential and of legal privilege.  This information is intended 
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> the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
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> in this transmission is strictly prohibited.  If you believe to have 
> received this transmission in error, please call (678) 736-6603 or 
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from your computer.
> ______________________________________________________________________
> ___
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Chris:
> 
> 
> 
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip 
> providers go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by 
> medicare and that Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low 
> bidder in order that Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most 
> diabetics, of course, this is not a problem; while they may prefer a 
> certain meter, they can get along with whatever Medicare will pay for. 
> It's a different matter for blind and visually impaired persons with 
> diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes Action Network (DAN) of the 
> National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there are only *two* 
> fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in the 
> United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that 
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and 
> visually impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no longer
supply strips for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering
the problem).
> 
> 
> 
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together 
> a list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets, 
> strips, control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply 
> these items via mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for 
> these supplies. I would publish such a list for our DAN members and 
> other blind and visually impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally, 
> I am making the same suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons 
> deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would 
> do well by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to
CMS/Medicare.
> 
> 
> 
> I look forward to your response.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, president
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
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From n8tnv at att.net  Thu Aug 15 12:51:55 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:51:55 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy
Message-ID: <20130815125155.n8tnv@att.net>

Hello,
Well I purchased my Prodigy Meter through Independence Market because I didn't want to jump through so many hoops when I got it.
It was about 25 percent of the cost if Insurance would have purchased it through another supplier.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Tamera <fidano at comcast.net>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:18 pm
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy

>
>
> When was the prodigy last updated?
> I know some here posted about ADS no longer accepting Medicare, but my soap
> box has and always will be... the over charge of medical items. 
> A while back I posted, as my husband changed jobs and my strips must come
> via pharmacy.. one offered such, but they are not a mail order so  put on
> hold... now ADS has a pharmacy, but fee, my copay is the same cost to me as
> purchasing my strips via amazon. And send me lancets at $21, pre 2 boxes I
> did not request.
> I wish more, not just on this list were  aware of what pharmacies and supply
> store charge our insurance, and our co-pay, as this is one of the big  screw
> ups in our Us med system.. at least its my opinion and experience.
> I know insurance will reduce to an allowable amount, but if my copay is the
> same as via amazon? Yes, I need tow match for dates etc.,  b....
> As a diabetic I do not need the stress?
> Tamera 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Kelly Massaro
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:17 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> Prodigy strips have not been discontinued. Please call me off line and I can
> help. We're doing business with 98 percent of the Medicare national mail
> order providers as well as retailers. 
> 
> Kelly Massaro
> Prodigy Diabetes Care
> 704-458-9400
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:51 PM, "Blindhands at aol.com" <Blindhands at aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.   
> > Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> > 
> > Help please has anyone else found this out?
> > 
> > How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not sure if
> 
> > I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving  them
> out 
> > at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips back
> at 
> > that time.
> > 
> > I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing  supplies
> 
> > and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should get
> and 
> > where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid that I
> 
> > will have trouble getting the strips.
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> > Blindhands at AOL.com 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Diabetes-talk:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kellym%40prodigym
> eter.com
> 
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From coe at impactcil.org  Thu Aug 15 14:28:26 2013
From: coe at impactcil.org (Rhonda Coe)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:28:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy
In-Reply-To: <20130815125155.n8tnv@att.net>
References: <20130815125155.n8tnv@att.net>
Message-ID: <0447D59FE8A47A43AFD5970ADCC8B2201AEB78@server.alton.impactcil.org>

The Prodigy Auto-code can be purchased thru maxiaids.com as well for
$29.95 and the strips are only $1699 for the 50 count bottles.
Just an FYI and you need no prescription to purchase.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of COLLEEN ROTH
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:52 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy

Hello,
Well I purchased my Prodigy Meter through Independence Market because I
didn't want to jump through so many hoops when I got it.
It was about 25 percent of the cost if Insurance would have purchased it
through another supplier.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Tamera <fidano at comcast.net>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:18 pm
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy

>
>
> When was the prodigy last updated?
> I know some here posted about ADS no longer accepting Medicare, but my
soap
> box has and always will be... the over charge of medical items. 
> A while back I posted, as my husband changed jobs and my strips must
come
> via pharmacy.. one offered such, but they are not a mail order so  put
on
> hold... now ADS has a pharmacy, but fee, my copay is the same cost to
me as
> purchasing my strips via amazon. And send me lancets at $21, pre 2
boxes I
> did not request.
> I wish more, not just on this list were  aware of what pharmacies and
supply
> store charge our insurance, and our co-pay, as this is one of the big
screw
> ups in our Us med system.. at least its my opinion and experience.
> I know insurance will reduce to an allowable amount, but if my copay
is the
> same as via amazon? Yes, I need tow match for dates etc.,  b....
> As a diabetic I do not need the stress?
> Tamera 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of
> Kelly Massaro
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:17 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> Prodigy strips have not been discontinued. Please call me off line and
I can
> help. We're doing business with 98 percent of the Medicare national
mail
> order providers as well as retailers. 
> 
> Kelly Massaro
> Prodigy Diabetes Care
> 704-458-9400
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:51 PM, "Blindhands at aol.com" <Blindhands at aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.

> > Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> > 
> > Help please has anyone else found this out?
> > 
> > How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not
sure if
> 
> > I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving
them
> out 
> > at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
back
> at 
> > that time.
> > 
> > I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing
supplies
> 
> > and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should
get
> and 
> > where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid
that I
> 
> > will have trouble getting the strips.
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> > Blindhands at AOL.com 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
for
> Diabetes-talk:
> >
>
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igym
> eter.com
> 
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From coe at impactcil.org  Thu Aug 15 14:30:41 2013
From: coe at impactcil.org (Rhonda Coe)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:30:41 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy
In-Reply-To: <0447D59FE8A47A43AFD5970ADCC8B2201AEB78@server.alton.impactcil.org>
References: <20130815125155.n8tnv@att.net>
	<0447D59FE8A47A43AFD5970ADCC8B2201AEB78@server.alton.impactcil.org>
Message-ID: <0447D59FE8A47A43AFD5970ADCC8B2201AEB79@server.alton.impactcil.org>

Oops that is $16.99 for the strips

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Rhonda Coe
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:28 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy

The Prodigy Auto-code can be purchased thru maxiaids.com as well for
$29.95 and the strips are only $1699 for the 50 count bottles.
Just an FYI and you need no prescription to purchase.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of COLLEEN ROTH
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:52 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy

Hello,
Well I purchased my Prodigy Meter through Independence Market because I
didn't want to jump through so many hoops when I got it.
It was about 25 percent of the cost if Insurance would have purchased it
through another supplier.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Tamera <fidano at comcast.net>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:18 pm
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy

>
>
> When was the prodigy last updated?
> I know some here posted about ADS no longer accepting Medicare, but my
soap
> box has and always will be... the over charge of medical items. 
> A while back I posted, as my husband changed jobs and my strips must
come
> via pharmacy.. one offered such, but they are not a mail order so  put
on
> hold... now ADS has a pharmacy, but fee, my copay is the same cost to
me as
> purchasing my strips via amazon. And send me lancets at $21, pre 2
boxes I
> did not request.
> I wish more, not just on this list were  aware of what pharmacies and
supply
> store charge our insurance, and our co-pay, as this is one of the big
screw
> ups in our Us med system.. at least its my opinion and experience.
> I know insurance will reduce to an allowable amount, but if my copay
is the
> same as via amazon? Yes, I need tow match for dates etc.,  b....
> As a diabetic I do not need the stress?
> Tamera 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of
> Kelly Massaro
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:17 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Major problem Help please
> 
> Prodigy strips have not been discontinued. Please call me off line and
I can
> help. We're doing business with 98 percent of the Medicare national
mail
> order providers as well as retailers. 
> 
> Kelly Massaro
> Prodigy Diabetes Care
> 704-458-9400
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:51 PM, "Blindhands at aol.com" <Blindhands at aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I had great hopes my problem was solved getting Prodigy test strips.

> > Walgreens notified me today that the strips have been discontinued.
> > 
> > Help please has anyone else found this out?
> > 
> > How is the solo meter to use???    I had gotten a solo meter  [not
sure if
> 
> > I am spelling it correctly] a few years ago when they were giving
them
> out 
> > at NFB Convention, but my insurance refused to purchase the strips
back
> at 
> > that time.
> > 
> > I have just gone on Medicare and  need a place to get my testing
supplies
> 
> > and  know I can get them.  Please let me know which meter I  should
get
> and 
> > where to get the supplies.  I have a Prodigy meter now, but  afraid
that I
> 
> > will have trouble getting the strips.
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> > Blindhands at AOL.com 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
for
> Diabetes-talk:
> >
>
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igym
> eter.com
> 
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From everett at everettgavel.com  Thu Aug 15 18:47:42 2013
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:47:42 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
References: <mailman.35.1376568003.28803.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <77721F2B68414B99BF7F5E73CA33ABEB@Lisa>

Thanks, Veronica. I appreciate everyone's input. 
Just a thought, but, maybe the DAN could be the 
initiator of such a thing? A page with reviews of 
the accessibility, or lack thereof, of various 
equipment needed by Diabetics? Just sayin. I'd be 
up for helping with such a thing, too, where I 
could. I'm not just suggesting a thing and leaving 
it up to others completely. ;-)

Strive On!
Everett


----- original message ----- 
Message: 16
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:27:51 -0700
From: "Veronica Elsea" 
<veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" 
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

You beat me to it, Mike. I sure don't know of any 
such place containing
reviews of all pumps by blind people. But it is 
absolutely worth inviting a
bunch of different reps to visit you and let you 
play with their pumps. Just
as sighted people are, we all have different ways 
that make sense to our
brains and one person's Heaven is another person's 
nightmare. <grin>
And your discussion changes if you are looking to 
wear a continuous glucose
monitor at the same time. The Medtronic isn't more 
accessible than any of
the others that are out now so there's no harm in 
having a snoop. If you
want more contact with some of us who use other 
pumps, just feel free to
ask. Happy snooping.
Veronica





From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Aug 15 19:10:54 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:10:54 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <77721F2B68414B99BF7F5E73CA33ABEB@Lisa>
References: <mailman.35.1376568003.28803.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<77721F2B68414B99BF7F5E73CA33ABEB@Lisa>
Message-ID: <008801ce99eb$2b2a2670$817e7350$@panix.com>

Everett:

It's a great idea but for one thing ... IMO pumps change sufficiently often
that such a page would be difficult to keep up-to-date. It'd be sort of like
our NFB NewslineR staff's task in keeping up with changes in newspaper feeds
-- sorta like trying to catch a tiger by the tail.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:48 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

Thanks, Veronica. I appreciate everyone's input. 
Just a thought, but, maybe the DAN could be the initiator of such a thing? A
page with reviews of the accessibility, or lack thereof, of various
equipment needed by Diabetics? Just sayin. I'd be up for helping with such a
thing, too, where I could. I'm not just suggesting a thing and leaving it up
to others completely. ;-)

Strive On!
Everett


----- original message -----
Message: 16
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:27:51 -0700
From: "Veronica Elsea" 
<veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" 
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

You beat me to it, Mike. I sure don't know of any such place containing
reviews of all pumps by blind people. But it is absolutely worth inviting a
bunch of different reps to visit you and let you play with their pumps. Just
as sighted people are, we all have different ways that make sense to our
brains and one person's Heaven is another person's nightmare. <grin> And
your discussion changes if you are looking to wear a continuous glucose
monitor at the same time. The Medtronic isn't more accessible than any of
the others that are out now so there's no harm in having a snoop. If you
want more contact with some of us who use other pumps, just feel free to
ask. Happy snooping.
Veronica



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From cindyray at gmail.com  Thu Aug 15 19:15:18 2013
From: cindyray at gmail.com (Cindy Ray)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:15:18 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <008801ce99eb$2b2a2670$817e7350$@panix.com>
References: <mailman.35.1376568003.28803.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<77721F2B68414B99BF7F5E73CA33ABEB@Lisa>
	<008801ce99eb$2b2a2670$817e7350$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <FC1881A2-70E3-4E9D-9D86-90E196725A5E@gmail.com>

But couldn't  you have a disclaimer on it and say that you update it every month or two or so? It wouldn't be quite the same intensity as something like NewsLine I should think. Up until the first IDAN Meeting I attended, I didn't realize the amount of inaccessibility there is. That's because I am not yet diabetic and don't have to use these things yet. I made erroneous assumptions.

CL

On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Everett:
> 
> It's a great idea but for one thing ... IMO pumps change sufficiently often
> that such a page would be difficult to keep up-to-date. It'd be sort of like
> our NFB NewslineR staff's task in keeping up with changes in newspaper feeds
> -- sorta like trying to catch a tiger by the tail.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Everett Gavel
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:48 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
> 
> Thanks, Veronica. I appreciate everyone's input. 
> Just a thought, but, maybe the DAN could be the initiator of such a thing? A
> page with reviews of the accessibility, or lack thereof, of various
> equipment needed by Diabetics? Just sayin. I'd be up for helping with such a
> thing, too, where I could. I'm not just suggesting a thing and leaving it up
> to others completely. ;-)
> 
> Strive On!
> Everett
> 
> 
> ----- original message -----
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:27:51 -0700
> From: "Veronica Elsea" 
> <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
> 
> You beat me to it, Mike. I sure don't know of any such place containing
> reviews of all pumps by blind people. But it is absolutely worth inviting a
> bunch of different reps to visit you and let you play with their pumps. Just
> as sighted people are, we all have different ways that make sense to our
> brains and one person's Heaven is another person's nightmare. <grin> And
> your discussion changes if you are looking to wear a continuous glucose
> monitor at the same time. The Medtronic isn't more accessible than any of
> the others that are out now so there's no harm in having a snoop. If you
> want more contact with some of us who use other pumps, just feel free to
> ask. Happy snooping.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From everett at everettgavel.com  Thu Aug 15 19:31:52 2013
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:31:52 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
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	<77721F2B68414B99BF7F5E73CA33ABEB@Lisa>
	<008801ce99eb$2b2a2670$817e7350$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <7E928AF10D0C4191BFAB4EAAB4726838@Lisa>

Hi Mike, and all,

I get what you're saying, Mike. My thought was 
simply that it might show a higher level of 
accountability and/or need for accessible devices, 
if such a page was made public. Consumer Reports, 
for instance, has greatly improved accountability 
among product quality over the decades, y'know? 
;-)

Strive On!
Everett


----- Original Message ----- 
> Everett:
> It's a great idea but for one thing ... IMO 
> pumps change sufficiently often
> that such a page would be difficult to keep 
> up-to-date. It'd be sort of like
> our NFB NewslineR staff's task in keeping up 
> with changes in newspaper feeds
> -- sorta like trying to catch a tiger by the 
> tail.
>




From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Thu Aug 15 21:27:45 2013
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:27:45 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <7E928AF10D0C4191BFAB4EAAB4726838@Lisa>
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	<7E928AF10D0C4191BFAB4EAAB4726838@Lisa>
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You know, I only wish Mike were correct here. The FDA is so far behind that
we really don't have new things coming out very often these days. It would
be a fair bit of work doing the initial write-ups, but if we dated articles
and said things like, as of this writing and here's the model number. For
instance, how to work the Animas pump basically hasn't changed in ten years.
There are often new features added like the ability to connect with other
meters and such, but some of the basic information would still be the same.
And I do agree with you Bridgit. The first time I met with an Animas rep,
she had just assumed that the only thing I'd be interested in was the touch
bolus on the side. Like blind people don't change basal rates? So the more
we do to help and challenge each other, the better off we'll be. But however
often updating would occur, it's true that someone would have to be in
charge of the page. But given that this is what we have these days, it
really might be worth considering.
Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Everett Gavel
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:32 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?

Hi Mike, and all,

I get what you're saying, Mike. My thought was 
simply that it might show a higher level of 
accountability and/or need for accessible devices, 
if such a page was made public. Consumer Reports, 
for instance, has greatly improved accountability 
among product quality over the decades, y'know? 
;-)

Strive On!
Everett


----- Original Message ----- 
> Everett:
> It's a great idea but for one thing ... IMO 
> pumps change sufficiently often
> that such a page would be difficult to keep 
> up-to-date. It'd be sort of like
> our NFB NewslineR staff's task in keeping up 
> with changes in newspaper feeds
> -- sorta like trying to catch a tiger by the 
> tail.
>


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From wlewis19 at cox.net  Fri Aug 16 00:30:32 2013
From: wlewis19 at cox.net (Bill Lewis)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:30:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <CqQz1m0242qgo5R01qR3h9>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com><AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>
	<CqQz1m0242qgo5R01qR3h9>
Message-ID: <D4E28A8E721D455188E52DD74CB2224D@BillPC>


Hi folks, Bill Lewis here.  I am assuming that finding diabetic applicances 
and supplies differs from city to city, because here in Wichita, a simple 
phone call to a pharmacy or two will get me any info I need, as to where to 
look.  The local Diabetes Association should know; even the local Department 
of Aging; one's own doctor's office; a local hospital, and more.

Here I have a pharmacy from which I purchase my meters, the strips, and 
other stuff which is covered by Medicare and my secondary Medicare 
Supplemental policy.  I wish you well and your search.

policy



-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:22 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Great! Rest up.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been
training and traveling today.

I appreciate the opportunity.

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
>
>
>
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining
> accessible bg meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by
> insurers in general and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that
> an interim solution to the problem would be for both Prodigy and
> Biosense to publish names and telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible
suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2
> and have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who
> are reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from
> Kelly, I will either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the
> list since she is a subscriber.
>
>
>
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it
> justifies public disclosure of provider contact information.
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman, President
>
> Diabetes Action Network
>
> National Federation of the Blind
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
>
>
>
> HI Mike,
>
>
>
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner
> with in the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between
> the bid winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was
> equally important to us that we not only partner with companies that
> will support our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.
> While there are other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their
> Medicare formulary, the list below is the companies that we feel best
> represent the previously stated criteria.
>
>
>
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
>
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
>
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
>
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
>
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
>
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
>
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
>
>
>
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> CG
>
>
>
> Chris Gwaltney
>
> BioSense Medical Devices
>
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
>
> Duluth, GA 30097
>
> p 678.276.7075
>
> f 888.620.2345
>
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com>
>
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
>
>
>
> Dear Chris:
>
>
>
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip
> providers go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by
> medicare and that Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low
> bidder in order that Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most
> diabetics, of course, this is not a problem; while they may prefer a
> certain meter, they can get along with whatever Medicare will pay for.
> It's a different matter for blind and visually impaired persons with
> diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes Action Network (DAN) of the
> National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there are only *two*
> fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in the
> United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and
> visually impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no longer
supply strips for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering
the problem).
>
>
>
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together
> a list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets,
> strips, control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply
> these items via mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for
> these supplies. I would publish such a list for our DAN members and
> other blind and visually impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally,
> I am making the same suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons
> deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would
> do well by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to
CMS/Medicare.
>
>
>
> I look forward to your response.
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman, president
>
> Diabetes Action Network
>
> National Federation of the Blind
>
>
>
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From kellym at prodigymeter.com  Fri Aug 16 03:55:56 2013
From: kellym at prodigymeter.com (Kelly Massaro)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:55:56 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <001b01ce995e$54b29b90$fe17d2b0$@panix.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>	<AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>
	<001b01ce995e$54b29b90$fe17d2b0$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <001101ce9a34$8750f610$95f2e230$@prodigymeter.com>

Mike,

I'm still waiting on a complete list with phone numbers as we are doing
business with 17 of the 18 providers but here are two that I have readily
available as I said I'd deliver today and I'm determined to deliver
something....today.  I have 6 minutes until tomorrow so I'm typing
fast...smile

Arriva Medical	888-216-3576
United States Medical	800-787-6331

Kelly Massaro
kellym at prodigymeter.com
704-458-9400

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Great! Rest up.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been
training and traveling today. 

I appreciate the opportunity. 

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> 
> 
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining 
> accessible bg meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by 
> insurers in general and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that 
> an interim solution to the problem would be for both Prodigy and 
> Biosense to publish names and telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible
suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2 
> and have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain 
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who 
> are reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from 
> Kelly, I will either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the 
> list since she is a subscriber.
> 
> 
> 
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it 
> justifies public disclosure of provider contact information.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, President
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> HI Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner 
> with in the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between 
> the bid winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was 
> equally important to us that we not only partner with companies that 
> will support our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.
> While there are other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their 
> Medicare formulary, the list below is the companies that we feel best 
> represent the previously stated criteria.
> 
> 
> 
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
> 
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
> 
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
> 
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
> 
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
> 
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
> 
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
> 
> 
> 
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> CG
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Gwaltney
> 
> BioSense Medical Devices
> 
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
> 
> Duluth, GA 30097
> 
> p 678.276.7075
> 
> f 888.620.2345
> 
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com>
> 
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> ___
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents 
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> be confidential and of legal privilege.  This information is intended 
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> the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
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> received this transmission in error, please call (678) 736-6603 or 
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> 
> 
> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Chris:
> 
> 
> 
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip 
> providers go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by 
> medicare and that Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low 
> bidder in order that Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most 
> diabetics, of course, this is not a problem; while they may prefer a 
> certain meter, they can get along with whatever Medicare will pay for.
> It's a different matter for blind and visually impaired persons with 
> diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes Action Network (DAN) of the 
> National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there are only *two* 
> fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in the 
> United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that 
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and 
> visually impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no 
> longer
supply strips for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering
the problem).
> 
> 
> 
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together 
> a list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets, 
> strips, control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply 
> these items via mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for 
> these supplies. I would publish such a list for our DAN members and 
> other blind and visually impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally, 
> I am making the same suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons 
> deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would 
> do well by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to
CMS/Medicare.
> 
> 
> 
> I look forward to your response.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, president
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From k7uij at panix.com  Fri Aug 16 16:09:23 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:09:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <001101ce9a34$8750f610$95f2e230$@prodigymeter.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>	<AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>	<001b01ce995e$54b29b90$fe17d2b0$@panix.com>
	<001101ce9a34$8750f610$95f2e230$@prodigymeter.com>
Message-ID: <010301ce9a9a$f944f490$ebceddb0$@panix.com>

Thank you, Kely.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike,

I'm still waiting on a complete list with phone numbers as we are doing
business with 17 of the 18 providers but here are two that I have readily
available as I said I'd deliver today and I'm determined to deliver
something....today.  I have 6 minutes until tomorrow so I'm typing
fast...smile

Arriva Medical	888-216-3576
United States Medical	800-787-6331

Kelly Massaro
kellym at prodigymeter.com
704-458-9400

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Great! Rest up.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been
training and traveling today. 

I appreciate the opportunity. 

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> 
> 
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining 
> accessible bg meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by 
> insurers in general and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that 
> an interim solution to the problem would be for both Prodigy and 
> Biosense to publish names and telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible
suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2 
> and have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain 
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who 
> are reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from 
> Kelly, I will either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the 
> list since she is a subscriber.
> 
> 
> 
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it 
> justifies public disclosure of provider contact information.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, President
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> HI Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner 
> with in the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between 
> the bid winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was 
> equally important to us that we not only partner with companies that 
> will support our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.
> While there are other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their 
> Medicare formulary, the list below is the companies that we feel best 
> represent the previously stated criteria.
> 
> 
> 
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
> 
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
> 
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
> 
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
> 
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
> 
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
> 
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
> 
> 
> 
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> CG
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Gwaltney
> 
> BioSense Medical Devices
> 
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
> 
> Duluth, GA 30097
> 
> p 678.276.7075
> 
> f 888.620.2345
> 
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com>
> 
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Chris:
> 
> 
> 
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip 
> providers go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by 
> medicare and that Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low 
> bidder in order that Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most 
> diabetics, of course, this is not a problem; while they may prefer a 
> certain meter, they can get along with whatever Medicare will pay for.
> It's a different matter for blind and visually impaired persons with 
> diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes Action Network (DAN) of the 
> National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there are only *two* 
> fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in the 
> United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that 
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and 
> visually impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no 
> longer
supply strips for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering
the problem).
> 
> 
> 
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together 
> a list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets, 
> strips, control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply 
> these items via mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for 
> these supplies. I would publish such a list for our DAN members and 
> other blind and visually impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally, 
> I am making the same suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons 
> deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would 
> do well by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to
CMS/Medicare.
> 
> 
> 
> I look forward to your response.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, president
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Fri Aug 16 16:35:09 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:35:09 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <010301ce9a9a$f944f490$ebceddb0$@panix.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>	<AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>	<001b01ce995e$54b29b90$fe17d2b0$@panix.com>	<001101ce9a34$8750f610$95f2e230$@prodigymeter.com>
	<010301ce9a9a$f944f490$ebceddb0$@panix.com>
Message-ID: <011901ce9a9e$9331d570$b9958050$@panix.com>

Fumble-fingers strikes again. Sorry, Kelly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Thank you, Kely.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike,

I'm still waiting on a complete list with phone numbers as we are doing
business with 17 of the 18 providers but here are two that I have readily
available as I said I'd deliver today and I'm determined to deliver
something....today.  I have 6 minutes until tomorrow so I'm typing
fast...smile

Arriva Medical	888-216-3576
United States Medical	800-787-6331

Kelly Massaro
kellym at prodigymeter.com
704-458-9400

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Great! Rest up.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been
training and traveling today. 

I appreciate the opportunity. 

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> 
> 
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining 
> accessible bg meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by 
> insurers in general and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that 
> an interim solution to the problem would be for both Prodigy and 
> Biosense to publish names and telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible
suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2 
> and have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain 
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who 
> are reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from 
> Kelly, I will either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the 
> list since she is a subscriber.
> 
> 
> 
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it 
> justifies public disclosure of provider contact information.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, President
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> HI Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner 
> with in the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between 
> the bid winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was 
> equally important to us that we not only partner with companies that 
> will support our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.
> While there are other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their 
> Medicare formulary, the list below is the companies that we feel best 
> represent the previously stated criteria.
> 
> 
> 
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
> 
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
> 
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
> 
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
> 
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
> 
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
> 
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
> 
> 
> 
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> CG
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Gwaltney
> 
> BioSense Medical Devices
> 
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
> 
> Duluth, GA 30097
> 
> p 678.276.7075
> 
> f 888.620.2345
> 
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com>
> 
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Chris:
> 
> 
> 
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip 
> providers go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by 
> medicare and that Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low 
> bidder in order that Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most 
> diabetics, of course, this is not a problem; while they may prefer a 
> certain meter, they can get along with whatever Medicare will pay for.
> It's a different matter for blind and visually impaired persons with 
> diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes Action Network (DAN) of the 
> National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there are only *two* 
> fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in the 
> United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that 
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and 
> visually impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no 
> longer
supply strips for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering
the problem).
> 
> 
> 
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together 
> a list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets, 
> strips, control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply 
> these items via mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for 
> these supplies. I would publish such a list for our DAN members and 
> other blind and visually impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally, 
> I am making the same suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons 
> deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would 
> do well by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to
CMS/Medicare.
> 
> 
> 
> I look forward to your response.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Freeman, president
> 
> Diabetes Action Network
> 
> National Federation of the Blind
> 
> 
> 
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From everett at everettgavel.com  Fri Aug 16 23:09:28 2013
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:09:28 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re:  Update on Pumps?
References: <mailman.35.1376654403.13094.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <5960BDF2ABB14A9FB071A500B8818658@Lisa>

Hello Again,

Since I took the plunge, finally after so many 
years, and am seriously considering getting a 
pump, now that the reps came out from Medtronic, 
what other pumps would you recommend for a blind 
diabetic these days?

Thanks,
Everett





From bpollpeter at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 16 23:22:12 2013
From: bpollpeter at hotmail.com (Bridgit Pollpeter)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:22:12 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re:  Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <5960BDF2ABB14A9FB071A500B8818658@Lisa>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP164E185A4E8A48E62666919C4470@phx.gbl>

Veronica can better answer this than me, but as I'm in the process of
switching to an Animas, I think this pump is good for blind users. The
menus aren't terribly complicated, there's an audio feature you can turn
for some functions and the operation itself is really nice. And for
those with useable vision, it has a larger screen and you can change the
contrast of the screen.

I haven't played much with other pumps, but the Medtronic Mini and
Accucheck Spirit aren't bad either.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Everett Gavel
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:09 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?


Hello Again,

Since I took the plunge, finally after so many 
years, and am seriously considering getting a 
pump, now that the reps came out from Medtronic, 
what other pumps would you recommend for a blind 
diabetic these days?

Thanks,
Everett



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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sat Aug 17 00:03:12 2013
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re:  Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP164E185A4E8A48E62666919C4470@phx.gbl>
References: <5960BDF2ABB14A9FB071A500B8818658@Lisa>
	<BLU0-SMTP164E185A4E8A48E62666919C4470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000301ce9add$2a3cca40$7eb65ec0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

Everett, the Accuchek Spirit will give you quite a bit of audio feedback on
the main pump itself. In their latest model it relies more on a remote which
isn't so great for us. But you may want to check out the pump to see if you
like the main unit. I agree with you Bridgit that the Animas is worth
checking.
Also, depending on which state you're in, the Snap pump by Asante may be
available. It might be the next one I investigate if it comes out in
California soon. Like Bridgit, I haven't been quite willing to part with my
beloved Cozmo yet because I've been so spoiled. 
But I did spend time reading the user manual for the Snap and it does have a
lot of audio feedback, as well as prefilled cartridges that you just snap
into the pump, hence its name. I know that Medtronic is waiting on the FDA
for approval of a newer pump so if you buy theirs, you'll be eligible for a
free upgrade when it does come out. This could be a nice thing or a really
nasty surprise if the upgrade is less accessible than the current model. But
I don't know the answer to that question. 
If I were sighted, this discussion would be leaning towards the T-slim by
Tandem diabetes. The pump actually has really nice audio feedback for stuff
and the beeps are in a lower register, making them easier to hear. But it's
a touch screen. And most things you do with it, including filling a
cartridge involve it asking questions that need responses. We couldn't
figure out how to make any kind of reliable overlay for it either. Too bad
though. It's really cute and small.
There is also the Omnipod by Insulet Corporation. It's a tubeless pump. You
put the insulin in what's called the pod, which is the part that goes into
you. Then you control everything with a remote. The tubeless aspect of this
pump is really attractive. Nothing beeps on the remote. It does have a home
button so if we got goofed up, we could get back to a known place. But there
are three issues I see with this one. First, it too has a lot of fussy
alarms. There's an alarm if something happens to the pod, when the pod
expires, bla bla bla. You fill the pod with three days' worth of insulin and
if anything goes wrong, either you've wasted insulin or you're engaged in a
rather fussy sort of task to try and get the insulin out. Third, the pods,
though smaller than the originals, are big enough that if you put one say,
on your arm and smack into a doorway, you can dislodge them. But the company
is very open to working with us to see what we can do. So if no tubing
really calls you, don't be afraid to check it out. 
And that's pretty much what's out there right now. There are some pump
patches out there designed for type two's where you don't change the
dosages. They sound kind of cool, actually. There's just this patch that
contains a set delivery of insulin over a day and then you change patches
the next day. No tubing, no anything, just wearing this patch. And bummer,
I'm blanking on its name. Oh that big round-number birthday that looms ever
closer! <laughing!>
Anyway, I hope this gives you something to play with and to think about.
It's an exciting time, making a big change like this and I hope you enjoy
the process as much as possible. That's what will set you up for the process
of experimenting and figuring for yourself what you can and can't get at.
Happy snooping and please keep us posted. And of course, questions welcome,
on and off list. Have fun!
Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:22 PM
To: 'Everett Gavel'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?

Veronica can better answer this than me, but as I'm in the process of
switching to an Animas, I think this pump is good for blind users. The
menus aren't terribly complicated, there's an audio feature you can turn
for some functions and the operation itself is really nice. And for
those with useable vision, it has a larger screen and you can change the
contrast of the screen.

I haven't played much with other pumps, but the Medtronic Mini and
Accucheck Spirit aren't bad either.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Everett Gavel
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:09 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?


Hello Again,

Since I took the plunge, finally after so many 
years, and am seriously considering getting a 
pump, now that the reps came out from Medtronic, 
what other pumps would you recommend for a blind 
diabetic these days?

Thanks,
Everett



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From everett at everettgavel.com  Sat Aug 17 23:00:01 2013
From: everett at everettgavel.com (Everett Gavel)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:00:01 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Update on Pumps?
References: <mailman.35.1376740803.17013.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <6C9D7697794340B8B65EE7AB0D69F4A5@Lisa>

Thanks, Bridgit,

Are there companies out there that handle multiple 
brands of pumps, and I could perhaps contact them 
as a distributor or whatever, and get them to show 
me multiple pumps at once? Or do we contact the 
manufacturers directly for each one? Or something 
else, please?

Thanks for any direction as to how best to 
proceed.


Strive On!
Everett


----- original message ----- 
Veronica can better answer this than me, but as 
I'm in the process of
switching to an Animas, I think this pump is good 
for blind users. The
menus aren't terribly complicated, there's an 
audio feature you can turn
for some functions and the operation itself is 
really nice. And for
those with useable vision, it has a larger screen 
and you can change the
contrast of the screen.

I haven't played much with other pumps, but the 
Medtronic Mini and
Accucheck Spirit aren't bad either.

Bridgit





From bpollpeter at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 17 23:15:03 2013
From: bpollpeter at hotmail.com (Bridgit Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 18:15:03 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re:  Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <000301ce9add$2a3cca40$7eb65ec0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1256921648DDF733028810FC4400@phx.gbl>

In ignorance, I assumed my clinic understood what I was looking for and
would summarily check out various pumps, allowing me to check them out
too. I also, in ignorance, thought when they told me that the Medtronic
and Animas were the only two on the market that would work for a blind
person, this was an accurate assessment of the market. I now wish I
would have been more proactive in the search process.

My nurse educators are great and obviously don't doubt my ability to
operate a pump, but they are sighted people with very little exposure to
blind people, and many of those blind people are struggling themselves
with coping with their diabetes. I don't know names, but I'm aware that
my clinic only has a handful of blind diabetics, and currently, only
three of us use pumps. And of us three, I've been told I'm the most
proactive about my diabetes management and work the most with my med
team. So they did their best, but I could have been more involved in the
selection process.

I'm still very happy with my choice with the Animas, but when my
warranty is up for it, I definitely intent to demand I be able to play
with any available model out at that time. For nothing else, I will have
a better understanding of current pumps and be able to make more
educated comments on them.

Thanks, Veronica, for posting this. You're my role-model here, smile.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Veronica Elsea
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?


Everett, the Accuchek Spirit will give you quite a bit of audio feedback
on the main pump itself. In their latest model it relies more on a
remote which isn't so great for us. But you may want to check out the
pump to see if you like the main unit. I agree with you Bridgit that the
Animas is worth checking. Also, depending on which state you're in, the
Snap pump by Asante may be available. It might be the next one I
investigate if it comes out in California soon. Like Bridgit, I haven't
been quite willing to part with my beloved Cozmo yet because I've been
so spoiled. 
But I did spend time reading the user manual for the Snap and it does
have a lot of audio feedback, as well as prefilled cartridges that you
just snap into the pump, hence its name. I know that Medtronic is
waiting on the FDA for approval of a newer pump so if you buy theirs,
you'll be eligible for a free upgrade when it does come out. This could
be a nice thing or a really nasty surprise if the upgrade is less
accessible than the current model. But I don't know the answer to that
question. 
If I were sighted, this discussion would be leaning towards the T-slim
by Tandem diabetes. The pump actually has really nice audio feedback for
stuff and the beeps are in a lower register, making them easier to hear.
But it's a touch screen. And most things you do with it, including
filling a cartridge involve it asking questions that need responses. We
couldn't figure out how to make any kind of reliable overlay for it
either. Too bad though. It's really cute and small. There is also the
Omnipod by Insulet Corporation. It's a tubeless pump. You put the
insulin in what's called the pod, which is the part that goes into you.
Then you control everything with a remote. The tubeless aspect of this
pump is really attractive. Nothing beeps on the remote. It does have a
home button so if we got goofed up, we could get back to a known place.
But there are three issues I see with this one. First, it too has a lot
of fussy alarms. There's an alarm if something happens to the pod, when
the pod expires, bla bla bla. You fill the pod with three days' worth of
insulin and if anything goes wrong, either you've wasted insulin or
you're engaged in a rather fussy sort of task to try and get the insulin
out. Third, the pods, though smaller than the originals, are big enough
that if you put one say, on your arm and smack into a doorway, you can
dislodge them. But the company is very open to working with us to see
what we can do. So if no tubing really calls you, don't be afraid to
check it out. 
And that's pretty much what's out there right now. There are some pump
patches out there designed for type two's where you don't change the
dosages. They sound kind of cool, actually. There's just this patch that
contains a set delivery of insulin over a day and then you change
patches the next day. No tubing, no anything, just wearing this patch.
And bummer, I'm blanking on its name. Oh that big round-number birthday
that looms ever closer! <laughing!> Anyway, I hope this gives you
something to play with and to think about. It's an exciting time, making
a big change like this and I hope you enjoy the process as much as
possible. That's what will set you up for the process of experimenting
and figuring for yourself what you can and can't get at. Happy snooping
and please keep us posted. And of course, questions welcome, on and off
list. Have fun! Veronica

Watch the video as The Guide Dog Glee Club sings "Rehab!" Yes! Yes! Yes!
http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and
The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:22 PM
To: 'Everett Gavel'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?

Veronica can better answer this than me, but as I'm in the process of
switching to an Animas, I think this pump is good for blind users. The
menus aren't terribly complicated, there's an audio feature you can turn
for some functions and the operation itself is really nice. And for
those with useable vision, it has a larger screen and you can change the
contrast of the screen.

I haven't played much with other pumps, but the Medtronic Mini and
Accucheck Spirit aren't bad either.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Everett Gavel
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:09 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?


Hello Again,

Since I took the plunge, finally after so many 
years, and am seriously considering getting a 
pump, now that the reps came out from Medtronic, 
what other pumps would you recommend for a blind 
diabetic these days?

Thanks,
Everett



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From wlewis19 at cox.net  Sun Aug 18 17:20:42 2013
From: wlewis19 at cox.net (Bill Lewis)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:20:42 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2
In-Reply-To: <DUdV1m0202qgo5R01UdWwT>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHcEIceLKNZPoUrV4VXEheDCgAAAEAAAAGgwbRQgpK1PkOMtHbLOfQMBAAAAAA==@panix.com>	<00ca01ce9927$fbb9b8b0$f32d2a10$@biosensemd.com>,
	<001001ce992a$1e40c340$5ac249c0$@panix.com>	<AEA5AAAF-962D-4AF7-ABF0-DE09217CB84C@prodigymeter.com>	<001b01ce995e$54b29b90$fe17d2b0$@panix.com>	<001101ce9a34$8750f610$95f2e230$@prodigymeter.com><010301ce9a9a$f944f490$ebceddb0$@panix.com>
	<DUdV1m0202qgo5R01UdWwT>
Message-ID: <1ACED7A44101444FBC4E08CEB2C8B1E1@BillPC>

A friend sent this to me today and I thought you folks would be interested, 
as am I. -- Bill Lewis

Subject: accessible prescriptions


http://www.afb.org/section.aspx?FolderID=1&SectionID=47&DocumentID=6078
President Obama Signs Landmark Accessible Prescription Drug Label Bill
AFB Applauds White House and Congress for Protecting the Safety of Americans 
with Vision Loss

New York (July 11, 2012)On July 9, President Barack Obama signed into law 
the Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act, which brings us 
a
step closer to ensuring Americans with vision loss have access to the 
important information on their prescription labels. The Act includes 
provisions that
establish national best practices for retail and other pharmacies to use in 
providing accessible prescription drug labeling to customers with vision 
loss.
This includes proper dosage, the name of the medication, accompanying 
information about possible side effects, and more.

"We applaud President Obama and Congress for taking this important step," 
said Carl R. Augusto, president and CEO of the American Foundation for the 
Blind
(AFB). "AFB has been working on this issue for many years and we're thrilled 
that this is now a reality."

The American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) has long championed safe and 
effective ways to address the significant public health challenge of 
inaccessible
prescription drug labeling.
Past studies have shown
the dangers posed by the inability to access necessary instructions that 
accompany prescription and over-the-counter medications, including illness, 
emergency
room visits and the reliance upon sighted companionsor even strangers.

"The significance of this measure cannot be understated," said Mark Richert, 
Director of Public Policy at the American Foundation for the Blind. "For the
more than 20 million Americans living with vision loss, being unable to read 
drug container labels and package inserts is a scary reality."

The provisions in the Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act 
will serve as a valuable supplement to existing requirements under the 
Americans
with Disabilities Act and other federal and state laws imposing obligations 
on pharmacies to ensure effective communication and barrier removal for 
people
with disabilities. Whether this new legislation entails that medication 
instructions and inserts be available in large print, braille, or via an 
assistive
technology device remains to be seen.




-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 11:35 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Fumble-fingers strikes again. Sorry, Kelly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Thank you, Kely.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 8:56 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike,

I'm still waiting on a complete list with phone numbers as we are doing
business with 17 of the 18 providers but here are two that I have readily
available as I said I'd deliver today and I'm determined to deliver
something....today.  I have 6 minutes until tomorrow so I'm typing
fast...smile

Arriva Medical 888-216-3576
United States Medical 800-787-6331

Kelly Massaro
kellym at prodigymeter.com
704-458-9400

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:23 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Great! Rest up.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Kelly Massaro
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Medicare and Solus V2

Mike

I received your message and will provide information tomorrow as I have been
training and traveling today.

I appreciate the opportunity.

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:11 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
>
>
>
> While seeking a permanent solution to the problem of obtaining
> accessible bg meters and their ancillary supplies which are covered by
> insurers in general and Medicare in particular, it occurred to me that
> an interim solution to the problem would be for both Prodigy and
> Biosense to publish names and telephone numbers of Medicare-eligible
suppliers that carry their equipment.
> Accordingly, I sent an email to my contact at Biosense re the Solus V2
> and have a telephone call into Kelly Massaro-Neal at Prodigy to obtain
> information for the Prodigy Voice. Below, please find Biosense's response.
> You will see names and telephone numbers of a number of providers who
> are reimbursable by Medicare. When I get similar information from
> Kelly, I will either publish it myself or have Kelly put it on the
> list since she is a subscriber.
>
>
>
> I think Biosense is wise to proceed carefully in endorsing providers.
> However, I consider the situation sufficiently urgent that it
> justifies public disclosure of provider contact information.
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman, President
>
> Diabetes Action Network
>
> National Federation of the Blind
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Chris Gwaltney [mailto:chris at biosensemd.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: 'Mike Freeman'
> Subject: RE: Medicare and Solus V2
>
>
>
> HI Mike,
>
>
>
> We have taken a very thoughtful approach to who we wanted to partner
> with in the new Medicare market.  There is a lot of disparity between
> the bid winners market knowledge, capabilities, and approach.  It was
> equally important to us that we not only partner with companies that
> will support our products, but that operate in a patient-first manner.
> While there are other bid winning companies that list SOLUS on their
> Medicare formulary, the list below is the companies that we feel best
> represent the previously stated criteria.
>
>
>
> A1 Diabetes (800) 316 - 7955
>
> Binson's Home Health (855) 307 - 2973
>
> Care Services (800) 633 - 7167
>
> Diabetes Care Club (800) 955 - 9277
>
> Home Care Delivered (866) 392 - 8040
>
> Home Delivery Incontinent Supplies (800) 933 - 0822
>
> Kohll's Pharmacy & Homecare (866) 414 - 9900
>
>
>
> Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> CG
>
>
>
> Chris Gwaltney
>
> BioSense Medical Devices
>
> 6555 Sugarloaf Pkwy Suite 307-168
>
> Duluth, GA 30097
>
> p 678.276.7075
>
> f 888.620.2345
>
> chris at biosensemd.com <mailto:cgwaltney at biosensemd.com>
>
> www.BioSenseMD.com <http://www.biosensemd.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: Chris Gwaltney
> Subject: Medicare and Solus V2
>
>
>
> Dear Chris:
>
>
>
> Beginning July 1, Medicare CMS is requiring that meter and strip
> providers go through a bidding process in order to be reimbursed by
> medicare and that Durable Medical Equipment (DME) providers be the low
> bidder in order that Medicare pay for diabetes supplies. For most
> diabetics, of course, this is not a problem; while they may prefer a
> certain meter, they can get along with whatever Medicare will pay for.
> It's a different matter for blind and visually impaired persons with
> diabetes. In the opinion of the diabetes Action Network (DAN) of the
> National Federation of the Blind (NFB), there are only *two*
> fully-accessible blood glucose meters currently being sold in the
> United States: the Solus V2 and the Prodigy Voice. The problem is that
> many suppliers of diabetes equipment are telling their blind and
> visually impaired customers who are on Medicare that they can no
> longer
supply strips for the Solus V2 (Prodigy Voice users are also encountering
the problem).
>
>
>
> I have a suggestion for Biosense: it would behoove you to put together
> a list of suppliers of the Solus V2 and ancillary equipment (lancets,
> strips, control solution, etc.) that are currently able to supply
> these items via mail-order and which can accept Medicare payment for
> these supplies. I would publish such a list for our DAN members and
> other blind and visually impaired persons with diabetes. Incidentally,
> I am making the same suggestion to your competitor. Blind persons
> deserve a choice and the Solus
> V2 is a good enough meter and enough people prefer it that you would
> do well by putting together a list of suppliers that are acceptable to
CMS/Medicare.
>
>
>
> I look forward to your response.
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman, president
>
> Diabetes Action Network
>
> National Federation of the Blind
>
>
>
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From veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com  Sun Aug 18 21:57:03 2013
From: veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com (Veronica Elsea)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 14:57:03 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re:  Update on Pumps?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1256921648DDF733028810FC4400@phx.gbl>
References: <000301ce9add$2a3cca40$7eb65ec0$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1256921648DDF733028810FC4400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004401ce9c5d$df76cec0$9e646c40$@laurelcreekmusic.com>

In a way, I kind of benefitted from the fact that the diabetes education
part of my clinic is so lacking in substance. So right away, this forced me
on to the internet and on to other pump lists. And Everett, the best you
could hope for is to find a conference of some sort where the companies have
tables in the exhibit hall. But there's really nothing equal to calling them
up and setting up a personal visit. Then you'll actually get enough time to
start to understand the pump and ask intelligent questions before you sign
on the dotted line. For instance, you can't get anything from the PR about
how each pump calculates the insulin on board. And some of them handle it
very differently. That was one of the things that made me hold off a bit on
the Medtronic and the Omnipod. So no shortcuts, I'm afraid. And each of us
needs to decide what ends up being important for ourselves and I would
encourage this same behavior, the visiting with each company, even for
sighted people. 
So let's all continue to share whatever we learn with each other here.
Veronica

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http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us
Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:15 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?

In ignorance, I assumed my clinic understood what I was looking for and
would summarily check out various pumps, allowing me to check them out
too. I also, in ignorance, thought when they told me that the Medtronic
and Animas were the only two on the market that would work for a blind
person, this was an accurate assessment of the market. I now wish I
would have been more proactive in the search process.

My nurse educators are great and obviously don't doubt my ability to
operate a pump, but they are sighted people with very little exposure to
blind people, and many of those blind people are struggling themselves
with coping with their diabetes. I don't know names, but I'm aware that
my clinic only has a handful of blind diabetics, and currently, only
three of us use pumps. And of us three, I've been told I'm the most
proactive about my diabetes management and work the most with my med
team. So they did their best, but I could have been more involved in the
selection process.

I'm still very happy with my choice with the Animas, but when my
warranty is up for it, I definitely intent to demand I be able to play
with any available model out at that time. For nothing else, I will have
a better understanding of current pumps and be able to make more
educated comments on them.

Thanks, Veronica, for posting this. You're my role-model here, smile.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Veronica Elsea
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:03 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?


Everett, the Accuchek Spirit will give you quite a bit of audio feedback
on the main pump itself. In their latest model it relies more on a
remote which isn't so great for us. But you may want to check out the
pump to see if you like the main unit. I agree with you Bridgit that the
Animas is worth checking. Also, depending on which state you're in, the
Snap pump by Asante may be available. It might be the next one I
investigate if it comes out in California soon. Like Bridgit, I haven't
been quite willing to part with my beloved Cozmo yet because I've been
so spoiled. 
But I did spend time reading the user manual for the Snap and it does
have a lot of audio feedback, as well as prefilled cartridges that you
just snap into the pump, hence its name. I know that Medtronic is
waiting on the FDA for approval of a newer pump so if you buy theirs,
you'll be eligible for a free upgrade when it does come out. This could
be a nice thing or a really nasty surprise if the upgrade is less
accessible than the current model. But I don't know the answer to that
question. 
If I were sighted, this discussion would be leaning towards the T-slim
by Tandem diabetes. The pump actually has really nice audio feedback for
stuff and the beeps are in a lower register, making them easier to hear.
But it's a touch screen. And most things you do with it, including
filling a cartridge involve it asking questions that need responses. We
couldn't figure out how to make any kind of reliable overlay for it
either. Too bad though. It's really cute and small. There is also the
Omnipod by Insulet Corporation. It's a tubeless pump. You put the
insulin in what's called the pod, which is the part that goes into you.
Then you control everything with a remote. The tubeless aspect of this
pump is really attractive. Nothing beeps on the remote. It does have a
home button so if we got goofed up, we could get back to a known place.
But there are three issues I see with this one. First, it too has a lot
of fussy alarms. There's an alarm if something happens to the pod, when
the pod expires, bla bla bla. You fill the pod with three days' worth of
insulin and if anything goes wrong, either you've wasted insulin or
you're engaged in a rather fussy sort of task to try and get the insulin
out. Third, the pods, though smaller than the originals, are big enough
that if you put one say, on your arm and smack into a doorway, you can
dislodge them. But the company is very open to working with us to see
what we can do. So if no tubing really calls you, don't be afraid to
check it out. 
And that's pretty much what's out there right now. There are some pump
patches out there designed for type two's where you don't change the
dosages. They sound kind of cool, actually. There's just this patch that
contains a set delivery of insulin over a day and then you change
patches the next day. No tubing, no anything, just wearing this patch.
And bummer, I'm blanking on its name. Oh that big round-number birthday
that looms ever closer! <laughing!> Anyway, I hope this gives you
something to play with and to think about. It's an exciting time, making
a big change like this and I hope you enjoy the process as much as
possible. That's what will set you up for the process of experimenting
and figuring for yourself what you can and can't get at. Happy snooping
and please keep us posted. And of course, questions welcome, on and off
list. Have fun! Veronica

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http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and
The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:22 PM
To: 'Everett Gavel'; 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?

Veronica can better answer this than me, but as I'm in the process of
switching to an Animas, I think this pump is good for blind users. The
menus aren't terribly complicated, there's an audio feature you can turn
for some functions and the operation itself is really nice. And for
those with useable vision, it has a larger screen and you can change the
contrast of the screen.

I haven't played much with other pumps, but the Medtronic Mini and
Accucheck Spirit aren't bad either.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Everett Gavel
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Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Subject: Re: Update on Pumps?


Hello Again,

Since I took the plunge, finally after so many 
years, and am seriously considering getting a 
pump, now that the reps came out from Medtronic, 
what other pumps would you recommend for a blind 
diabetic these days?

Thanks,
Everett



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From k7uij at panix.com  Wed Aug 21 17:23:05 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:23:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: An important message about changes in health
	insurance for people with diabetes
In-Reply-To: <16507507.1377103058406.JavaMail.www@app203>
References: <16507507.1377103058406.JavaMail.www@app203>
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From: American Diabetes Association [mailto:news at diabetes.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:31 AM
Subject: An important message about changes in health insurance for people
with diabetes

 

Together we CAN Stop Diabetes! Find out how at
<http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=lbbejDfCV_4JimMoDxYD4w> stopdiabetes.com.



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Dear Friend,

The Affordable Care Act is bringing additional major health insurance
changes for people with diabetes over the next few months,
including-finally-the end of discrimination against people with diabetes in
the health insurance market. No longer can an insurance company stamp "NO"
on an application, simply because you or a family member has diabetes.

While these changes will benefit people with diabetes all over the country,
we are aware that there is some confusion about how they will benefit you,
your friends and your family.

That is why, at the American Diabetes Association, we are bringing you
information about the Affordable Care Act to help you get insurance that
best meets the needs of you and your family.

There are two important dates to keep in mind:

*	On October 1, 2013, people can start signing up for health insurance
through their state Marketplace. Coverage purchased in the Marketplace will
go into effect as early as January 1, 2014. 
*	January 1, 2014 brings a host of other changes including ending
discrimination based on diabetes, ending lifetime dollar limits on benefits,
and providing financial help to pay for insurance.

We have two new documents to help you understand both Marketplaces and the
upcoming changes in health insurance rules related to diabetes. These
documents are also available in Spanish.

In the Association's new Q&A,
<http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=REWbFGV65CSkMjTRhnmUww> "The Health
Insurance Marketplace and People with Diabetes", you will find a list of
frequently asked questions about the new Health Insurance Marketplace
opening in your state on October 1st. If you or anyone you know is uninsured
or shopping for new coverage-or simply wants to explore other insurance
options-this document will help you learn more about Marketplaces. The
American Diabetes Association does not recommend specific health plans, but
we want to provide you with an understanding of the new Marketplaces and
link you to available resources for assistance. Click
<http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=zGRD0YxCX1mNFokTUGTfLQ> HERE to read the
Q&A.

The American Diabetes Association's new
<http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=Wwq_KBQ2vxklQQli4IGMiw> "Health Insurance
Update: Protections for People with Diabetes" provides information on
changes to health insurance rules which impact people with diabetes,
including changes that are already in effect and some starting on the first
day of the new year. We want to help you understand these changes and how
they can benefit you, your friends and family. Click
<http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=8HUZuASOLReWhbizh79eKQ> HERE to read the
update.

Making sure that people living with, and at risk for, diabetes can access
the care they need for optimal health is at the core of the American
Diabetes Association's mission. The new Marketplaces, coupled with the new
health insurance rules, will help people with diabetes get the care and
treatment they need. Please help spread the word about these changes by
forwarding this email to friends and family affected by diabetes.

We appreciate your support and everything you do to Stop DiabetesR.

Sincerely,


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Karen D. Talmadge, PhD
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www.healthcare.gov, or call 1-800-318-2596.

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From deniserob at gmail.com  Wed Aug 21 18:42:41 2013
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:42:41 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: An important message about changes in
 health insurance for people with diabetes
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Thanks Mike


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> From: American Diabetes Association [mailto:news at diabetes.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:31 AM
> Subject: An important message about changes in health insurance for people
> with diabetes
>
>
>
> Together we CAN Stop Diabetes! Find out how at
> <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=lbbejDfCV_4JimMoDxYD4w>
> stopdiabetes.com.
>
>
>
> Image removed by sender. Together we CAN Stop Diabetes
>
>
>  <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=F3Meg-UM18kbHo5xnsEcxw> Forward to a
> Friend    |     <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=AEhAYA77J3z7dTODTcCOzg>
> www.stopdiabetes.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Friend,
>
> The Affordable Care Act is bringing additional major health insurance
> changes for people with diabetes over the next few months,
> including-finally-the end of discrimination against people with diabetes in
> the health insurance market. No longer can an insurance company stamp "NO"
> on an application, simply because you or a family member has diabetes.
>
> While these changes will benefit people with diabetes all over the country,
> we are aware that there is some confusion about how they will benefit you,
> your friends and your family.
>
> That is why, at the American Diabetes Association, we are bringing you
> information about the Affordable Care Act to help you get insurance that
> best meets the needs of you and your family.
>
> There are two important dates to keep in mind:
>
> *       On October 1, 2013, people can start signing up for health
> insurance
> through their state Marketplace. Coverage purchased in the Marketplace will
> go into effect as early as January 1, 2014.
> *       January 1, 2014 brings a host of other changes including ending
> discrimination based on diabetes, ending lifetime dollar limits on
> benefits,
> and providing financial help to pay for insurance.
>
> We have two new documents to help you understand both Marketplaces and the
> upcoming changes in health insurance rules related to diabetes. These
> documents are also available in Spanish.
>
> In the Association's new Q&A,
> <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=REWbFGV65CSkMjTRhnmUww> "The Health
> Insurance Marketplace and People with Diabetes", you will find a list of
> frequently asked questions about the new Health Insurance Marketplace
> opening in your state on October 1st. If you or anyone you know is
> uninsured
> or shopping for new coverage-or simply wants to explore other insurance
> options-this document will help you learn more about Marketplaces. The
> American Diabetes Association does not recommend specific health plans, but
> we want to provide you with an understanding of the new Marketplaces and
> link you to available resources for assistance. Click
> <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=zGRD0YxCX1mNFokTUGTfLQ> HERE to read
> the
> Q&A.
>
> The American Diabetes Association's new
> <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=Wwq_KBQ2vxklQQli4IGMiw> "Health
> Insurance
> Update: Protections for People with Diabetes" provides information on
> changes to health insurance rules which impact people with diabetes,
> including changes that are already in effect and some starting on the first
> day of the new year. We want to help you understand these changes and how
> they can benefit you, your friends and family. Click
> <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=8HUZuASOLReWhbizh79eKQ> HERE to read
> the
> update.
>
> Making sure that people living with, and at risk for, diabetes can access
> the care they need for optimal health is at the core of the American
> Diabetes Association's mission. The new Marketplaces, coupled with the new
> health insurance rules, will help people with diabetes get the care and
> treatment they need. Please help spread the word about these changes by
> forwarding this email to friends and family affected by diabetes.
>
> We appreciate your support and everything you do to Stop DiabetesR.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Image removed by sender. Karen Talmadge
>
> Image removed by sender. Karen Talmadge Signature
> Karen D. Talmadge, PhD
> Chair of the Board, American Diabetes Association
>
>
> P.S. Those who are seeking assistance in choosing a health insurance plan,
> or who want to learn more about the Marketplaces, can also visit
> <http://main.diabetes.org/site/R?i=_cD0aWnaY0nr3II3yQCMdg>
> www.healthcare.gov, or call 1-800-318-2596.
>
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From vgc732 at optonline.net  Sat Aug 31 02:52:28 2013
From: vgc732 at optonline.net (Vincent Chaney Jr)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:52:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes
	care
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>

Greetings to All:

FYI...

This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter

Vincent
President DAN of New Jersey



Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> 
> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards. 
> 
> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> 
>  
> 
> The Diabetes Watchdog
> 
>  
> 
> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog


From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 05:17:12 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:17:12 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: <465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>

I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
Mike freeman 

On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:

> Greetings to All:
> 
> FYI...
> 
> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> 
> Vincent
> President DAN of New Jersey
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>> 
>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards. 
>> 
>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From bestsinger at samobile.net  Sat Aug 31 07:27:38 2013
From: bestsinger at samobile.net (Dorothea Martin)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 03:27:38 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
Message-ID: 8f0c2ea5-a9ef-4f71-a082-5e39c3595d8c@samobile.net

Hello, Mike and All,
It seems to me thatr any glucometer which gives the diabetic a false reading t
rather than the information that there is not enough blood on the strip 
would come under the FDA's umbrella of concern. That description fits 
most talking glucometers. The problem as I see it is that we need to 
have our cake and eat it too on this one. We need a gadget which is 
cheap electronics so that our insurance will pay for it, but we need it 
to have the accuracy and the large memory of a professional machine, 
one that we couldn't pay for and wouldn't want to carry around if we 
could. I am concerned that this FDA effort to raise the bar will 
unwittingly knock out talking meters. The only talking meters which do 
not have this problem are the new AutoSense Plus, made in Hungary and 
not sold in the US, and the BioSense meters. Now if we remove the 
Hungarian meter from consideration, that leaves American diabetics with 
no choice, and what is more dangerous, no competition.
Dotty Martin



From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 11:23:40 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 07:23:40 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
 Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: <4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
	<465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>,
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W89C39B9481DD37973AAF73A1360@phx.gbl>

Mike after reading this and going on to the FDA.gov website, Prodigy has been inspected and warned and fined for awhile on these issues.

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> From: k7uij at panix.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:17:12 -0700
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy	Diabetes care
> 
> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
> Mike freeman 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings to All:
> > 
> > FYI...
> > 
> > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> > This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> > 
> > Vincent
> > President DAN of New Jersey
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> >> 
> >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards. 
> >> 
> >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The Diabetes Watchdog
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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From n8tnv at att.net  Sat Aug 31 14:02:28 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:02:28 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
Message-ID: <20130831140228.n8tnv@att.net>

Hi Mike,
I hope we can get to the bottom of this. 
I understand that there are some Talking Meters which require less blood on the strip.
Since it is very hard for me or anyone else for that matter to get enough blood for a reading from me I would like to find a meter which needs less blood.
If anyone knows of a Talking Meter which require less blood than the Prodigy Meter I purchased from NFB in 2011 that would be great.
I mentioned where I got the Meter because I am not sure which one I have at the moment.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:20 am
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care

>
>
> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
> Mike freeman 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings to All:
> > 
> > FYI...
> > 
> > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> > This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> > 
> > Vincent
> > President DAN of New Jersey
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> >> 
> >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards. 
> >> 
> >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The Diabetes Watchdog
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From bpollpeter at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 16:30:57 2013
From: bpollpeter at hotmail.com (Bridgit Pollpeter)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:30:57 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W89C39B9481DD37973AAF73A1360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP18991F1B34216133A90F788C4360@phx.gbl>

I've not experienced problems with my Prodigy Voice.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care


Mike after reading this and going on to the FDA.gov website, Prodigy has
been inspected and warned and fined for awhile on these issues.

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> From: k7uij at panix.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:17:12 -0700
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care
> 
> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it 
> is not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also
and, frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we
may have to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to
proceed as the Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance
carriers yet.
> Mike freeman 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings to All:
> > 
> > FYI...
> > 
> > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting 
> > read. This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a 
> > meter
> > 
> > Vincent
> > President DAN of New Jersey
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> >> 
> >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written 
> >> warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious
violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice
Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter,
and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited
numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and
that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or
contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail
failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control
processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were
distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
> >> 
> >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
> >> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm
> >> 360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The Diabetes Watchdog
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 16:44:35 2013
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandi Ryan)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:44:35 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	ProdigyDiabetes care
In-Reply-To: <4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net><465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
Message-ID: <29708C3EE324475385DC75B1B6B18872@SandiPC>

Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no doubt 
whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced 
issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported them.

This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, officially! 
It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices and 
accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it more 
important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or 
device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the DAN, 
but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak out 
on it!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to 
ProdigyDiabetes care


> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is 
> not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, 
> frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have 
> to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the 
> Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
> Mike freeman
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Greetings to All:
>>
>> FYI...
>>
>> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
>> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
>>
>> Vincent
>> President DAN of New Jersey
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>>>
>>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
>>> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the 
>>> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose 
>>> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy 
>>> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous 
>>> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that 
>>> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or 
>>> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail 
>>> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control 
>>> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were 
>>> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
>>>
>>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
>>> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 16:44:52 2013
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandi Ryan)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:44:52 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	ProdigyDiabetes care
In-Reply-To: <4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net><465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
Message-ID: <45F19D105F28495793FB1C32E85757CE@SandiPC>

Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no doubt 
whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced 
issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported them.

This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, officially! 
It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices and 
accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it more 
important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or 
device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the DAN, 
but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak out 
on it!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to 
ProdigyDiabetes care


> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is 
> not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, 
> frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have 
> to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the 
> Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
> Mike freeman
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Greetings to All:
>>
>> FYI...
>>
>> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
>> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
>>
>> Vincent
>> President DAN of New Jersey
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>>>
>>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
>>> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the 
>>> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose 
>>> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy 
>>> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous 
>>> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that 
>>> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or 
>>> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail 
>>> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control 
>>> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were 
>>> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
>>>
>>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
>>> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From Blindhands at aol.com  Sat Aug 31 17:00:13 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
Message-ID: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>

Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo 
meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I think 
they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or  hand.  
I did not think of calling Prodigy.
 
If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact  
Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
 
Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you  
back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the  meter, 
but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and 
forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com 

From cindyray at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 17:00:04 2013
From: cindyray at gmail.com (Cindy Ray)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:00:04 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	ProdigyDiabetes care
In-Reply-To: <29708C3EE324475385DC75B1B6B18872@SandiPC>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net><465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
	<29708C3EE324475385DC75B1B6B18872@SandiPC>
Message-ID: <FC6DBE61-448D-480F-9C21-026AD77E799A@gmail.com>

I don't believe the E-Reader is more important than the supplies for diabetes treatment. However, I'm not sure that the NFB as a whole is cognissant of these issues. I really thought diabetes equipment was more accessible than it is. The E-reader, on the other hand, is apparently coming up at an FCC hearing Tuesday. So as DAN Members, we need to make the NFB aware of the bigger picture of inaccessibility in equipment.

CL

On Aug 31, 2013, at 11:44 AM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no doubt whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported them.
> 
> This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, officially! It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices and accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it more important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the DAN, but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak out on it!
> 
> Sandi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to ProdigyDiabetes care
> 
> 
>> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
>> Mike freeman
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings to All:
>>> 
>>> FYI...
>>> 
>>> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
>>> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
>>> 
>>> Vincent
>>> President DAN of New Jersey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>>>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>>>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>>>> 
>>>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
>>>> 
>>>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 17:23:08 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:23:08 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>

 I use Solo Meter with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other a few times a year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after lancing your finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip. 
First make sure the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while holding the meter in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down meaning, hold the meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I am bad at describing things.
and then touch the strip to the blood this will take some practice, but the strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of it side ways.
Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice, the blood will be warm.
Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what I am doing.
It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller drops then trying to pinch my fingers harder.
If you need more of an explanation, let me know. 
Since he showed me how to do it, it is much better.
I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places it isn't on there formulary to get the strips with Medicare.


Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo 
> meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I think 
> they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or  hand.  
> I did not think of calling Prodigy.
>  
> If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact  
> Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
>  
> Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you  
> back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the  meter, 
> but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and 
> forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
>  
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com 
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Aug 31 17:41:23 2013
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (eileen scrivani)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:41:23 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>
	<BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <562BC357EF93426DB7E34201CDF8DC9E@eileen>

Cheryl:

I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter that I was upgraded to 
back in March.  I've been using talking meters many many years as a blind 
diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2 meter into my diabetes educator 
to make sure I was applying the sample correctly.  I was.

Many times I test on this meter and get crazy numbers that would indicate 
I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic at those readings.  Or I get 
test after test or "TO LOW" or "No sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
the Solus, but Loved, loved the Solo.


I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the one resultthat 
comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers I'm getting from 
the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.  After all its my health 
and my life that is at risk when I'm basing insulin dosages on these 
numbers.

IMO only, something happened to the manufacturing process in the change of 
either meter or strips from the Solo to the Solus and not many of us have a 
personal one on one relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
Solutions.  For that matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture and 
were left with no contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 
These big medicare approved providers are not giving product support and In 
My Opinion that's a problem.

Eileen

-----Original Message----- 
From: cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

I use Solo Meter with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other a 
few times a year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after 
lancing your finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
First make sure the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while 
holding the meter in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down 
meaning, hold the meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I 
am bad at describing things.
and then touch the strip to the blood this will take some practice, but the 
strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of it side ways.
Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice, the blood will 
be warm.
Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what I am doing.
It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller drops then 
trying to pinch my fingers harder.
If you need more of an explanation, let me know.
Since he showed me how to do it, it is much better.
I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places it isn't 
on there formulary to get the strips with Medicare.


Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in 
Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, 
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - 
#1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a 
blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking 
https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has 
partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her 
braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>
> Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I 
> think
> they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or 
> hand.
> I did not think of calling Prodigy.
>
> If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact
> Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
>
> Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you
> back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the 
> meter,
> but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and
> forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 17:46:13 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:46:13 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <562BC357EF93426DB7E34201CDF8DC9E@eileen>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>,
	<BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>,
	<562BC357EF93426DB7E34201CDF8DC9E@eileen>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W71C6630FE6794A21E949DFA1360@phx.gbl>

I am using the Solo Meter and not the Solus, I did try it, but wasn't happy with it because of the issues you have indicated. I think that Chris from Biosense is on the list.
In fact, I have tried to e-mail Chris, no answer, I hope maybe they are listening Biosense since they make the meter and not ADS, and will fix the problem.

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: etscrivani at verizon.net
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:41:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> Cheryl:
> 
> I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter that I was upgraded to 
> back in March.  I've been using talking meters many many years as a blind 
> diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2 meter into my diabetes educator 
> to make sure I was applying the sample correctly.  I was.
> 
> Many times I test on this meter and get crazy numbers that would indicate 
> I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic at those readings.  Or I get 
> test after test or "TO LOW" or "No sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
> the Solus, but Loved, loved the Solo.
> 
> 
> I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the one resultthat 
> comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers I'm getting from 
> the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.  After all its my health 
> and my life that is at risk when I'm basing insulin dosages on these 
> numbers.
> 
> IMO only, something happened to the manufacturing process in the change of 
> either meter or strips from the Solo to the Solus and not many of us have a 
> personal one on one relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
> Solutions.  For that matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture and 
> were left with no contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 
> These big medicare approved providers are not giving product support and In 
> My Opinion that's a problem.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> I use Solo Meter with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other a 
> few times a year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after 
> lancing your finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
> First make sure the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while 
> holding the meter in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down 
> meaning, hold the meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I 
> am bad at describing things.
> and then touch the strip to the blood this will take some practice, but the 
> strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of it side ways.
> Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice, the blood will 
> be warm.
> Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what I am doing.
> It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller drops then 
> trying to pinch my fingers harder.
> If you need more of an explanation, let me know.
> Since he showed me how to do it, it is much better.
> I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places it isn't 
> on there formulary to get the strips with Medicare.
> 
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in 
> Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria, 
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> 
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - 
> #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a 
> blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking 
> https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has 
> partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her 
> braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
> 
> > From: Blindhands at aol.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 -0400
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> >
> > Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> > meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I 
> > think
> > they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or 
> > hand.
> > I did not think of calling Prodigy.
> >
> > If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact
> > Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
> >
> > Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you
> > back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the 
> > meter,
> > but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and
> > forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
> >
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > Blindhands at AOL.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> > Diabetes-talk:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com
> 
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From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Aug 31 18:02:04 2013
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (eileen scrivani)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:02:04 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W71C6630FE6794A21E949DFA1360@phx.gbl>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>,
	<BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>,
	<562BC357EF93426DB7E34201CDF8DC9E@eileen>
	<BLU169-W71C6630FE6794A21E949DFA1360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B4124C2F6FF497EA7DB2F11A5C0A295@eileen>

I would go back to the Solo in a flash.  Unfortunately, I've been told I 
cannot get the Solo strips any longer.  Very disappointing.  I have tried 
the strips I got with the Solus in the Solo, but I am getting the same issue 
so that is what is making me wonder  ... is it the meter or is it the 
strips?

Eileen



-----Original Message----- 
From: cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:46 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

I am using the Solo Meter and not the Solus, I did try it, but wasn't happy 
with it because of the issues you have indicated. I think that Chris from 
Biosense is on the list.
In fact, I have tried to e-mail Chris, no answer, I hope maybe they are 
listening Biosense since they make the meter and not ADS, and will fix the 
problem.

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in 
Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, 
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - 
#1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a 
blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking 
https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has 
partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her 
braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: etscrivani at verizon.net
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:41:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>
> Cheryl:
>
> I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter that I was upgraded to
> back in March.  I've been using talking meters many many years as a blind
> diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2 meter into my diabetes 
> educator
> to make sure I was applying the sample correctly.  I was.
>
> Many times I test on this meter and get crazy numbers that would indicate
> I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic at those readings.  Or I get
> test after test or "TO LOW" or "No sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with
> the Solus, but Loved, loved the Solo.
>
>
> I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the one resultthat
> comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers I'm getting from
> the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.  After all its my health
> and my life that is at risk when I'm basing insulin dosages on these
> numbers.
>
> IMO only, something happened to the manufacturing process in the change of
> either meter or strips from the Solo to the Solus and not many of us have 
> a
> personal one on one relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic
> Solutions.  For that matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture 
> and
> were left with no contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up.
> These big medicare approved providers are not giving product support and 
> In
> My Opinion that's a problem.
>
> Eileen
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>
> I use Solo Meter with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other 
> a
> few times a year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after
> lancing your finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
> First make sure the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while
> holding the meter in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down
> meaning, hold the meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I
> am bad at describing things.
> and then touch the strip to the blood this will take some practice, but 
> the
> strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of it side ways.
> Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice, the blood 
> will
> be warm.
> Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what I am doing.
> It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller drops then
> trying to pinch my fingers harder.
> If you need more of an explanation, let me know.
> Since he showed me how to do it, it is much better.
> I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places it 
> isn't
> on there formulary to get the strips with Medicare.
>
>
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
> Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria,
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
>
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
> #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for 
> a
> blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
> https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel 
> has
> partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her
> braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
>
> > From: Blindhands at aol.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 -0400
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> >
> > Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> > meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I
> > think
> > they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or
> > hand.
> > I did not think of calling Prodigy.
> >
> > If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact
> > Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
> >
> > Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you
> > back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the
> > meter,
> > but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and
> > forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
> >
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > Blindhands at AOL.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > Diabetes-talk:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com
>
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 18:03:23 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:03:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	ProdigyDiabetes care
In-Reply-To: <FC6DBE61-448D-480F-9C21-026AD77E799A@gmail.com>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
	<29708C3EE324475385DC75B1B6B18872@SandiPC>
	<FC6DBE61-448D-480F-9C21-026AD77E799A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A559519D-2613-4B8C-92EE-7FCF96E002E3@panix.com>

Welcome to minority status!
Mike

On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:00, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't believe the E-Reader is more important than the supplies for diabetes treatment. However, I'm not sure that the NFB as a whole is cognissant of these issues. I really thought diabetes equipment was more accessible than it is. The E-reader, on the other hand, is apparently coming up at an FCC hearing Tuesday. So as DAN Members, we need to make the NFB aware of the bigger picture of inaccessibility in equipment.
> 
> CL
> 
> On Aug 31, 2013, at 11:44 AM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no doubt whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported them.
>> 
>> This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, officially! It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices and accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it more important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the DAN, but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak out on it!
>> 
>> Sandi
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to ProdigyDiabetes care
>> 
>> 
>>> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
>>> Mike freeman
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Greetings to All:
>>>> 
>>>> FYI...
>>>> 
>>>> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
>>>> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
>>>> 
>>>> Vincent
>>>> President DAN of New Jersey
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>>>>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>>>>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>>>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>>>>> 
>>>>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 18:06:05 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:06:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W71C6630FE6794A21E949DFA1360@phx.gbl>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>
	<BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>
	<562BC357EF93426DB7E34201CDF8DC9E@eileen>
	<BLU169-W71C6630FE6794A21E949DFA1360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5050385D-D805-490A-B026-EE4D1D785419@panix.com>

He is not on the list; I'll forward.
Mike

On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:46, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am using the Solo Meter and not the Solus, I did try it, but wasn't happy with it because of the issues you have indicated. I think that Chris from Biosense is on the list.
> In fact, I have tried to e-mail Chris, no answer, I hope maybe they are listening Biosense since they make the meter and not ADS, and will fix the problem.
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> 
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
> 
>> From: etscrivani at verizon.net
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:41:23 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>> 
>> Cheryl:
>> 
>> I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter that I was upgraded to 
>> back in March.  I've been using talking meters many many years as a blind 
>> diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2 meter into my diabetes educator 
>> to make sure I was applying the sample correctly.  I was.
>> 
>> Many times I test on this meter and get crazy numbers that would indicate 
>> I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic at those readings.  Or I get 
>> test after test or "TO LOW" or "No sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
>> the Solus, but Loved, loved the Solo.
>> 
>> 
>> I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the one resultthat 
>> comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers I'm getting from 
>> the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.  After all its my health 
>> and my life that is at risk when I'm basing insulin dosages on these 
>> numbers.
>> 
>> IMO only, something happened to the manufacturing process in the change of 
>> either meter or strips from the Solo to the Solus and not many of us have a 
>> personal one on one relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
>> Solutions.  For that matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture and 
>> were left with no contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 
>> These big medicare approved providers are not giving product support and In 
>> My Opinion that's a problem.
>> 



From Blindhands at aol.com  Sat Aug 31 18:06:31 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:06:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
Message-ID: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>

Can you still  get the Solo meter?  It sounds to me that the  newer meter 
has more challenges and if that is the only one available, it is not  worth 
consideration on switching to that.
 

Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com   

 
In a message dated 8/31/2013 1:42:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
etscrivani at verizon.net writes:

Cheryl:

I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter  that I was upgraded to 
back in March.  I've been using talking meters  many many years as a blind 
diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2  meter into my diabetes 
educator 
to make sure I was applying the sample  correctly.  I was.

Many times I test on this meter and get crazy  numbers that would indicate 
I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic  at those readings.  Or I get 
test after test or "TO LOW" or "No  sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
the Solus, but Loved, loved  the Solo.


I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the  one resultthat 
comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers  I'm getting from 
the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.   After all its my health 
and my life that is at risk when I'm basing  insulin dosages on these 
numbers.

IMO only, something happened to  the manufacturing process in the change of 
either meter or strips from the  Solo to the Solus and not many of us have 
a 
personal one on one  relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
Solutions.  For that  matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture 
and 
were left with no  contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 
These big medicare  approved providers are not giving product support and 
In 
My Opinion that's  a problem.

Eileen

-----Original Message----- 
From: cheryl  echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for  the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

I use Solo Meter  with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other 
a 
few times a  year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after 
lancing your  finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
First make sure  the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while 
holding the meter  in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down 
meaning, hold the  meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I 
am bad at  describing things.
and then touch the strip to the blood this will take  some practice, but 
the 
strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of  it side ways.
Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice,  the blood 
will 
be warm.
Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what  I am doing.
It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller  drops then 
trying to pinch my fingers harder.
If you need more of an  explanation, let me know.
Since he showed me how to do it, it is much  better.
I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places  it 
isn't 
on there formulary to get the strips with  Medicare.


Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading  the Way in 
Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria,  
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated  as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - 
#1018299-10 FLST  T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for 
a 
blind  child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking  
https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel  
has 
partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her  
braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of  Alabama

> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013  13:00:13 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject:  [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>
> Are folks having troubles similar  to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> meter??  I have  had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I 
>  think
> they should be I test over with blood from a different finger  and/or 
> hand.
> I did not think of calling  Prodigy.
>
> If you get the strips from where ever you get them,  should you contact
> Prodigy or the place you bought the strips  from?
>
> Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy,  but they send you
> back to where you purchased it.  As in this  letter, they replaced the 
> meter,
> but they did not replace the  strips.  So they have you running back  and
> forth and all  you want is to know what your test results are   correctly.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 18:07:12 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:07:12 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
References: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W2282634FDEC0F488A07B50A1360@phx.gbl>

Yes you can

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:06:31 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> Can you still  get the Solo meter?  It sounds to me that the  newer meter 
> has more challenges and if that is the only one available, it is not  worth 
> consideration on switching to that.
>  
> 
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com   
> 
>  
> In a message dated 8/31/2013 1:42:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> etscrivani at verizon.net writes:
> 
> Cheryl:
> 
> I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter  that I was upgraded to 
> back in March.  I've been using talking meters  many many years as a blind 
> diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2  meter into my diabetes 
> educator 
> to make sure I was applying the sample  correctly.  I was.
> 
> Many times I test on this meter and get crazy  numbers that would indicate 
> I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic  at those readings.  Or I get 
> test after test or "TO LOW" or "No  sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
> the Solus, but Loved, loved  the Solo.
> 
> 
> I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the  one resultthat 
> comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers  I'm getting from 
> the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.   After all its my health 
> and my life that is at risk when I'm basing  insulin dosages on these 
> numbers.
> 
> IMO only, something happened to  the manufacturing process in the change of 
> either meter or strips from the  Solo to the Solus and not many of us have 
> a 
> personal one on one  relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
> Solutions.  For that  matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture 
> and 
> were left with no  contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 
> These big medicare  approved providers are not giving product support and 
> In 
> My Opinion that's  a problem.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: cheryl  echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for  the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> I use Solo Meter  with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other 
> a 
> few times a  year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after 
> lancing your  finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
> First make sure  the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while 
> holding the meter  in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down 
> meaning, hold the  meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I 
> am bad at  describing things.
> and then touch the strip to the blood this will take  some practice, but 
> the 
> strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of  it side ways.
> Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice,  the blood 
> will 
> be warm.
> Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what  I am doing.
> It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller  drops then 
> trying to pinch my fingers harder.
> If you need more of an  explanation, let me know.
> Since he showed me how to do it, it is much  better.
> I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places  it 
> isn't 
> on there formulary to get the strips with  Medicare.
> 
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading  the Way in 
> Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria,  
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> 
> Affiliated  as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - 
> #1018299-10 FLST  T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for 
> a 
> blind  child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking  
> https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel  
> has 
> partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her  
> braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of  Alabama
> 
> > From: Blindhands at aol.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013  13:00:13 -0400
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject:  [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> >
> > Are folks having troubles similar  to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> > meter??  I have  had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I 
> >  think
> > they should be I test over with blood from a different finger  and/or 
> > hand.
> > I did not think of calling  Prodigy.
> >
> > If you get the strips from where ever you get them,  should you contact
> > Prodigy or the place you bought the strips  from?
> >
> > Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy,  but they send you
> > back to where you purchased it.  As in this  letter, they replaced the 
> > meter,
> > but they did not replace the  strips.  So they have you running back  and
> > forth and all  you want is to know what your test results are   correctly.
> >
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > Blindhands at AOL.com
> >  _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing  list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> >  Diabetes-talk:
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> 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 18:08:05 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:08:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <4B4124C2F6FF497EA7DB2F11A5C0A295@eileen>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>
	<BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>
	<562BC357EF93426DB7E34201CDF8DC9E@eileen>
	<BLU169-W71C6630FE6794A21E949DFA1360@phx.gbl>
	<4B4124C2F6FF497EA7DB2F11A5C0A295@eileen>
Message-ID: <6B1F755B-2669-4ED0-B1E3-70699BC0D622@panix.com>

Probably the strips. And the Solo had its own problems.
Mike

On Aug 31, 2013, at 11:02, "eileen scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net> wrote:

> I would go back to the Solo in a flash.  Unfortunately, I've been told I cannot get the Solo strips any longer.  Very disappointing.  I have tried the strips I got with the Solus in the Solo, but I am getting the same issue so that is what is making me wonder  ... is it the meter or is it the strips?
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:46 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> I am using the Solo Meter and not the Solus, I did try it, but wasn't happy with it because of the issues you have indicated. I think that Chris from Biosense is on the list.
> In fact, I have tried to e-mail Chris, no answer, I hope maybe they are listening Biosense since they make the meter and not ADS, and will fix the problem.
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> 
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
> 
>> From: etscrivani at verizon.net
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:41:23 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>> 



From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 18:09:00 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:09:00 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
References: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU169-W22B873EB4C3803F294F5BDA1360@phx.gbl>

I was constantly getting weird numbers with the solo meter. I don't like the people at Biosense at all some are rude, and sound like they are in India instead of the US.

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama

> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:06:31 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> Can you still  get the Solo meter?  It sounds to me that the  newer meter 
> has more challenges and if that is the only one available, it is not  worth 
> consideration on switching to that.
>  
> 
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com   
> 
>  
> In a message dated 8/31/2013 1:42:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> etscrivani at verizon.net writes:
> 
> Cheryl:
> 
> I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter  that I was upgraded to 
> back in March.  I've been using talking meters  many many years as a blind 
> diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2  meter into my diabetes 
> educator 
> to make sure I was applying the sample  correctly.  I was.
> 
> Many times I test on this meter and get crazy  numbers that would indicate 
> I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic  at those readings.  Or I get 
> test after test or "TO LOW" or "No  sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
> the Solus, but Loved, loved  the Solo.
> 
> 
> I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the  one resultthat 
> comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers  I'm getting from 
> the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.   After all its my health 
> and my life that is at risk when I'm basing  insulin dosages on these 
> numbers.
> 
> IMO only, something happened to  the manufacturing process in the change of 
> either meter or strips from the  Solo to the Solus and not many of us have 
> a 
> personal one on one  relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
> Solutions.  For that  matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture 
> and 
> were left with no  contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 
> These big medicare  approved providers are not giving product support and 
> In 
> My Opinion that's  a problem.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: cheryl  echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for  the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> I use Solo Meter  with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other 
> a 
> few times a  year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after 
> lancing your  finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
> First make sure  the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while 
> holding the meter  in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down 
> meaning, hold the  meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I 
> am bad at  describing things.
> and then touch the strip to the blood this will take  some practice, but 
> the 
> strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of  it side ways.
> Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice,  the blood 
> will 
> be warm.
> Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what  I am doing.
> It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller  drops then 
> trying to pinch my fingers harder.
> If you need more of an  explanation, let me know.
> Since he showed me how to do it, it is much  better.
> I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places  it 
> isn't 
> on there formulary to get the strips with  Medicare.
> 
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading  the Way in 
> Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria,  
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> 
> Affiliated  as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST - 
> #1018299-10 FLST  T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for 
> a 
> blind  child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking  
> https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel  
> has 
> partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her  
> braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of  Alabama
> 
> > From: Blindhands at aol.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013  13:00:13 -0400
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject:  [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> >
> > Are folks having troubles similar  to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> > meter??  I have  had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I 
> >  think
> > they should be I test over with blood from a different finger  and/or 
> > hand.
> > I did not think of calling  Prodigy.
> >
> > If you get the strips from where ever you get them,  should you contact
> > Prodigy or the place you bought the strips  from?
> >
> > Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy,  but they send you
> > back to where you purchased it.  As in this  letter, they replaced the 
> > meter,
> > but they did not replace the  strips.  So they have you running back  and
> > forth and all  you want is to know what your test results are   correctly.
> >
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > Blindhands at AOL.com
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 18:09:18 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:09:18 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
References: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2F903B7C-6E68-4927-A25D-3B926550FB94@panix.com>

I doubt it.
Mike

On Aug 31, 2013, at 11:06, Blindhands at aol.com wrote:

> Can you still  get the Solo meter?  It sounds to me that the  newer meter 
> has more challenges and if that is the only one available, it is not  worth 
> consideration on switching to that.
> 
> 
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com   
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/31/2013 1:42:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> etscrivani at verizon.net writes:
> 
> Cheryl:
> 
> I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter  that I was upgraded to 
> back in March.  I've been using talking meters  many many years as a blind 
> diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2  meter into my diabetes 
> educator 
> to make sure I was applying the sample  correctly.  I was.
> 
> Many times I test on this meter and get crazy  numbers that would indicate 
> I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic  at those readings.  Or I get 
> test after test or "TO LOW" or "No  sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with 
> the Solus, but Loved, loved  the Solo.
> 
> 
> I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the  one resultthat 
> comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers  I'm getting from 
> the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.   After all its my health 
> and my life that is at risk when I'm basing  insulin dosages on these 
> numbers.
> 
> IMO only, something happened to  the manufacturing process in the change of 
> either meter or strips from the  Solo to the Solus and not many of us have 
> a 
> personal one on one  relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic 
> Solutions.  For that  matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture 
> and 
> were left with no  contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up. 



From etscrivani at verizon.net  Sat Aug 31 18:16:42 2013
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (eileen scrivani)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:16:42 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
References: <eb2ba.3b71ac40.3f538aa7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9A5CAB8C7E314D7A8246835C5F076FEC@eileen>

I still have my old Solo meter and will hold onto it in hopes I might be 
able to get strips that work in it.  If its the Solus strips that will now 
be used in the old Solo, then I'm thinking I'd make a change to another 
meter even if total accessibility is not an option (for instance, 
date/memory functions).

I would much rather have a meter that gives me an accurate reading.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Blindhands at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 2:06 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

Can you still  get the Solo meter?  It sounds to me that the  newer meter
has more challenges and if that is the only one available, it is not  worth
consideration on switching to that.


Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
Blindhands at AOL.com


In a message dated 8/31/2013 1:42:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
etscrivani at verizon.net writes:

Cheryl:

I've had a lot of problems with the new Solus meter  that I was upgraded to
back in March.  I've been using talking meters  many many years as a blind
diabetic. In this case, brought the Solus V2  meter into my diabetes
educator
to make sure I was applying the sample  correctly.  I was.

Many times I test on this meter and get crazy  numbers that would indicate
I'm ready to pass out and I'm not symptomatic  at those readings.  Or I get
test after test or "TO LOW" or "No  sufficient blood."  I'm not happy with
the Solus, but Loved, loved  the Solo.


I've been told by other diabetics not to retest that the  one resultthat
comes back should satisfy me, but I question the numbers  I'm getting from
the Solus and intelligence tells me to re-check.   After all its my health
and my life that is at risk when I'm basing  insulin dosages on these
numbers.

IMO only, something happened to  the manufacturing process in the change of
either meter or strips from the  Solo to the Solus and not many of us have
a
personal one on one  relationship with the owner of Advanced Diabetic
Solutions.  For that  matter now ADS is done and gone out of the picture
and
were left with no  contact to help trouble shoot problems that come up.
These big medicare  approved providers are not giving product support and
In
My Opinion that's  a problem.

Eileen

-----Original Message----- 
From: cheryl  echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:23 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for  the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

I use Solo Meter  with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other
a
few times a  year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after
lancing your  finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip.
First make sure  the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while
holding the meter  in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down
meaning, hold the  meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I
am bad at  describing things.
and then touch the strip to the blood this will take  some practice, but
the
strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of  it side ways.
Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice,  the blood
will
be warm.
Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what  I am doing.
It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller  drops then
trying to pinch my fingers harder.
If you need more of an  explanation, let me know.
Since he showed me how to do it, it is much  better.
I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places  it
isn't
on there formulary to get the strips with  Medicare.


Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading  the Way in
Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria,
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated  as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
#1018299-10 FLST  T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for
a
blind  child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel
has
partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her
braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of  Alabama

> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013  13:00:13 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject:  [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
>
> Are folks having troubles similar  to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> meter??  I have  had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I
>  think
> they should be I test over with blood from a different finger  and/or
> hand.
> I did not think of calling  Prodigy.
>
> If you get the strips from where ever you get them,  should you contact
> Prodigy or the place you bought the strips  from?
>
> Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy,  but they send you
> back to where you purchased it.  As in this  letter, they replaced the
> meter,
> but they did not replace the  strips.  So they have you running back  and
> forth and all  you want is to know what your test results are   correctly.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From limestonelady at samobile.net  Sat Aug 31 18:32:47 2013
From: limestonelady at samobile.net (limestone lady)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:32:47 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
Message-ID: 259b5e01-9421-4288-92ad-e98bbd9c5ae6@samobile.net

This is a long story, so I'll keep it short, but one day, I tested with 
two different meters, and got wildly differing results, so you just 
never know for shure.
Does anyone know when they switched diabetics from testing their urine, 
to testing their blood and why?
Linda.



From dmgina at samobile.net  Sat Aug 31 18:44:43 2013
From: dmgina at samobile.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
Message-ID: 51201ca3-29c0-40fe-abd7-36dff1d583cd@samobile.net

If this is true, then why am I doing so well by listening to my readings.
this is the meter that has worked well for me for years.
I question what they have to say.

Original message:
> Greetings to All:

> FYI...

> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter

> Vincent
> President DAN of New Jersey



> Sent from my iPhone

> Begin forwarded message:

>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care

>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
>> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the 
>> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose 
>> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy 
>> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous 
>> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that 
>> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or 
>> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail 
>> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control 
>> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were 
>> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.

>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
>> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email



>> The Diabetes Watchdog



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From cindyray at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 18:44:46 2013
From: cindyray at gmail.com (Cindy Ray)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:44:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <52223708.a5e8420a.5ff9.ffffa91bSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
References: <52223708.a5e8420a.5ff9.ffffa91bSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <D95B3AE5-DCAD-4B38-B926-B7F3A75C1790@gmail.com>

I could be way off base about this, but the blood sugar reading is a truer indicator of how you are faring than is the urine. I seems I heard that once, but I don't claim real knowledge. 

CL

On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:32 PM, limestone lady <limestonelady at samobile.net> wrote:

> This is a long story, so I'll keep it short, but one day, I tested with two different meters, and got wildly differing results, so you just never know for shure.
> Does anyone know when they switched diabetics from testing their urine, to testing their blood and why?
> Linda.
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From limestonelady at samobile.net  Sat Aug 31 18:52:20 2013
From: limestonelady at samobile.net (limestone lady)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
Message-ID: 7b7c8f12-687d-4bad-9b4c-1a5d7c3de76a@samobile.net

Thanks Cindy:
I have an article here about dka since I actually had it last summer, 
and it says that if you suspect you have dka, to use those strips to 
test your urine.
What I know about them makes me think that a big problem might have 
been that people were reading the strip colors wrong.
Linda.



From dmgina at samobile.net  Sat Aug 31 18:54:40 2013
From: dmgina at samobile.net (d m gina)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:54:40 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
Message-ID: 5ae8a77e-ebab-4322-8af1-05150bf4648f@samobile.net

yes I did the same thing, if it says to long I just retest.
I also will test again especially if I am in the 70 range, so that I 
know all is well.
Just makes sense to me.

Original message:
> Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo
> meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I think
> they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or  hand.
> I did not think of calling Prodigy.

> If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact
> Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?

> Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you
> back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the  meter,
> but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and
> forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.

> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
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From n8tnv at att.net  Sat Aug 31 18:55:16 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:55:16 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	ProdigyDiabetes care
Message-ID: <20130831185516.n8tnv@att.net>

Hi Sandi,
I think many people didn't know about this issue until today. Like you, many people probably didn't report their issues.
I have had so many times when my meter wouldn't or couldn't read from the blood on my test strip. This is true even when a sighted friend of mine who is a nurse has used my meter to do the test for me.
Sometimes she thinks I should have enough blood and it still doesn't work.
I just figured it was me.
Of course it still could be me.
The E-reader is important for those who are going to school in particular.
This problem with the Prodigy Meters is also pretty important.
I have wondered what would happen to someone who just can't get enough blood on the strip.
Yes I have run my hands under hot water, rubbed them, put something around the finger I want to poke, put the lancet at the highest number, let my hand hang down, and literally pushed my finger as hard as possible toward the lancet.
I have even poked my poor finger with the lancet, new each time) several times to no avail.
I have even tried poking my arm.
This could be a real problem for someone who is not a very well controlled Diabetic.
I guess we will find out more after the Holiday.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Sandi Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to ProdigyDiabetes care

>
>
> Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no doubt 
> whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced 
> issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported them.
> 
> This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, officially! 
> It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices and 
> accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it more 
> important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or 
> device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the DAN, 
> but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak out 
> on it!
> 
> Sandi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to 
> ProdigyDiabetes care
> 
> 
> > I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is 
> > not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, 
> > frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have 
> > to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the 
> > Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
> > Mike freeman
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings to All:
> >>
> >> FYI...
> >>
> >> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> >> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >> President DAN of New Jersey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> >>>
> >>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
> >>> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the 
> >>> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose 
> >>> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy 
> >>> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous 
> >>> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that 
> >>> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or 
> >>> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail 
> >>> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control 
> >>> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were 
> >>> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
> >>>
> >>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
> >>> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Diabetes Watchdog
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 31 18:56:30 2013
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:56:30 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <D95B3AE5-DCAD-4B38-B926-B7F3A75C1790@gmail.com>
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yes because the blood is more of a current indicator, if you are spilling keytones in your urine, there is already damage somewhere.
I studied this when I went for medical billing/coding and we had to study anatomy and other issues. Diabetes is the number one cause of many other diseases.
Like High Blood Pressure, Kidney Failure, Heart Disease. ETc.
So if you have keytones in your urine, rather high enough to show issues, then there can already be issues with bladder, kidney etc.
Taking your sugar anywhere from 3 to 6 times a day, is more an accurate reading.


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> From: cindyray at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:44:46 -0500
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> I could be way off base about this, but the blood sugar reading is a truer indicator of how you are faring than is the urine. I seems I heard that once, but I don't claim real knowledge. 
> 
> CL
> 
> On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:32 PM, limestone lady <limestonelady at samobile.net> wrote:
> 
> > This is a long story, so I'll keep it short, but one day, I tested with two different meters, and got wildly differing results, so you just never know for shure.
> > Does anyone know when they switched diabetics from testing their urine, to testing their blood and why?
> > Linda.
> > 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 19:23:55 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:23:55 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes
	care
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All:

 

I'll check this out. However, I don't like the URL for the FDA warning. Nor
do I like the Internet headers which show that this email originated in
Europe using an email address that may well be spoofed and causing the email
to be distributed by a European Internet provider via relay or similar
mechanism, rather than being from an Internet server within the United
States whose email shows it is coming from the registered domain
<diabeteswatchdog.org>. Note also that the email caused Panix, my ISP, to
assign the message id, rather than having it be carried intact, from the
originating email address, whatever it really is. Note that I, the
addressee, am shown not as the direct intended recipient, but as "for
k7uij at panix.com". In other words, we see here the usual tactics of spammers.
>From my perspective, were this a true warning, the originator would have had
the self-respect and honesty to originate the message from a straightforward
email address here in the U.s. whose domain is registered here. I haven't
done a WHOIS on this yet and I'll certainly check out the warning. But I can
assure you I'll switch to in-private browsing so I'm protected before doing
so.

 

The warning may well be legitimate; I'll comment on it in several messages
to come.

 

But remember that we don't except anonymous reports of anything within NFB:
if reporters haven't the guts to put their names on their reports, then they
don't deserve credibility.

 

Now, below my name, are the Internet headers. Read carefully.

 

 

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Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care

 

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter
to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy
Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System,
Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA
inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints
that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's
device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The
letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes,
quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that
were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.


The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
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From n8tnv at att.net  Sat Aug 31 19:32:34 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:32:34 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
Message-ID: <20130831193234.n8tnv@att.net>

Hi Gina,
It's not every meter. Some meters have the problem. If it was every meter there would have been a human outcry a long time ago.
The letter to Prodigy shows that the problem is related to Quality Control.
Some people probably have no problem with their meter because it is one of the ones which work well.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care

>
>
> If this is true, then why am I doing so well by listening to my readings.
> this is the meter that has worked well for me for years.
> I question what they have to say.
> 
> Original message:
> > Greetings to All:
> 
> > FYI...
> 
> > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> > This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> 
> > Vincent
> > President DAN of New Jersey
> 
> 
> 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> 
> >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> 
> >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
> >> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the 
> >> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose 
> >> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy 
> >> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous 
> >> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that 
> >> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or 
> >> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail 
> >> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control 
> >> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were 
> >> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
> 
> >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
> >> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> 
> 
> 
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From n8tnv at att.net  Sat Aug 31 19:38:32 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:38:32 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes
	care
Message-ID: <20130831193832.n8tnv@att.net>

Hi Mike,
Thank you, I didn't go check out the email address.
THAT is why I said we would know more on Tuesday when phone calls can be made.
However I was surprised the other day when Prodigy Talking Meters were advertised for $10.00.
I can't remember where, but I thought that was amazing.
I am sure we will have an answer after the holiday so I think people shouldn't panic.
Also there is a time frame for the letters concerning the every-reader.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:26 pm
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care

>
>
> All:
> 
>  
> 
> I'll check this out. However, I don't like the URL for the FDA warning. Nor
> do I like the Internet headers which show that this email originated in
> Europe using an email address that may well be spoofed and causing the email
> to be distributed by a European Internet provider via relay or similar
> mechanism, rather than being from an Internet server within the United
> States whose email shows it is coming from the registered domain
> <diabeteswatchdog.org>. Note also that the email caused Panix, my ISP, to
> assign the message id, rather than having it be carried intact, from the
> originating email address, whatever it really is. Note that I, the
> addressee, am shown not as the direct intended recipient, but as "for
> k7uij at panix.com". In other words, we see here the usual tactics of spammers.
> From my perspective, were this a true warning, the originator would have had
> the self-respect and honesty to originate the message from a straightforward
> email address here in the Udds. whose domain is registered here. I haven't
> done a WHOIS on this yet and I'll certainly check out the warning. But I can
> assure you I'll switch to in-private browsing so I'm protected before doing
> so.
> 
>  
> 
> The warning may well be legitimate; I'll comment on it in several messages
> to come.
> 
>  
> 
> But remember that we don't except anonymous reports of anything within NFB:
> if reporters haven't the guts to put their names on their reports, then they
> don't deserve credibility.
> 
>  
> 
> Now, below my name, are the Internet headers. Read carefully.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
>  
> 
> From watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org Fri Aug 30 16:46:12 2013
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> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org [mailto:watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:46 PM
> To: k7uij at panix.com
> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> 
>  
> 
> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning letter
> to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy
> Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System,
> Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA
> inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints
> that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's
> device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The
> letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes,
> quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that
> were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
> 
> 
> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
> m#.Uhallyvg45gcaE.email 
> 
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 19:58:58 2013
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandi Ryan)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:58:58 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued
	toProdigyDiabetes care
In-Reply-To: <20130831185516.n8tnv@att.net>
References: <20130831185516.n8tnv@att.net>
Message-ID: <702F3756629A45079DACB9EAC17B9B80@SandiPC>

I agree the eReader is an important issue.  I'm not trying to play "We're 
more important" here--but I don't think the eReader is more important.

I've done all those things too, and I hate, hate, hate checking my blood 
sugar, because it's always a hassle to get blood, and I've learned not to 
trust my Prodigy!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <n8tnv at att.net>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued 
toProdigyDiabetes care


> Hi Sandi,
> I think many people didn't know about this issue until today. Like you, 
> many people probably didn't report their issues.
> I have had so many times when my meter wouldn't or couldn't read from the 
> blood on my test strip. This is true even when a sighted friend of mine 
> who is a nurse has used my meter to do the test for me.
> Sometimes she thinks I should have enough blood and it still doesn't work.
> I just figured it was me.
> Of course it still could be me.
> The E-reader is important for those who are going to school in particular.
> This problem with the Prodigy Meters is also pretty important.
> I have wondered what would happen to someone who just can't get enough 
> blood on the strip.
> Yes I have run my hands under hot water, rubbed them, put something around 
> the finger I want to poke, put the lancet at the highest number, let my 
> hand hang down, and literally pushed my finger as hard as possible toward 
> the lancet.
> I have even poked my poor finger with the lancet, new each time) several 
> times to no avail.
> I have even tried poking my arm.
> This could be a real problem for someone who is not a very well controlled 
> Diabetic.
> I guess we will find out more after the Holiday.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sandi Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to 
> ProdigyDiabetes care
>
>>
>>
>> Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no 
>> doubt
>> whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced
>> issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported 
>> them.
>>
>> This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, 
>> officially!
>> It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices 
>> and
>> accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it 
>> more
>> important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or
>> device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the 
>> DAN,
>> but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak 
>> out
>> on it!
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
>> ProdigyDiabetes care
>>
>>
>> > I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it 
>> > is
>> > not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and,
>> > frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may 
>> > have
>> > to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as 
>> > the
>> > Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
>> > Mike freeman
>> >
>> > On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Greetings to All:
>> >>
>> >> FYI...
>> >>
>> >> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting 
>> >> read.
>> >> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
>> >>
>> >> Vincent
>> >> President DAN of New Jersey
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> Begin forwarded message:
>> >>
>> >>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>> >>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>> >>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>> >>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>> >>>
>> >>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning
>> >>> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for 
>> >>> the
>> >>> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose
>> >>> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy
>> >>> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous
>> >>> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that
>> >>> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or
>> >>> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto 
>> >>> detail
>> >>> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control
>> >>> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were
>> >>> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy 
>> >>> standards.
>> >>>
>> >>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
>> >>> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.htm#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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From sjryan2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 20:11:18 2013
From: sjryan2 at gmail.com (Sandi Ryan)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:11:18 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetescare
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	<00d001cea67f$a324fa10$e96eee30$@panix.com>
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I didn't check it out using the URL provided.  I went to my browser and 
typed in www.fda.gov only, then searched "Warning Letters - Prodigy."  The 
first two search items related to the e-mail we received, and the URL for 
them was the same as in the e-mail.

I hope this helps.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 2:23 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FW: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy 
Diabetescare


> All:
>
>
>
> I'll check this out. However, I don't like the URL for the FDA warning. 
> Nor
> do I like the Internet headers which show that this email originated in
> Europe using an email address that may well be spoofed and causing the 
> email
> to be distributed by a European Internet provider via relay or similar
> mechanism, rather than being from an Internet server within the United
> States whose email shows it is coming from the registered domain
> <diabeteswatchdog.org>. Note also that the email caused Panix, my ISP, to
> assign the message id, rather than having it be carried intact, from the
> originating email address, whatever it really is. Note that I, the
> addressee, am shown not as the direct intended recipient, but as "for
> k7uij at panix.com". In other words, we see here the usual tactics of 
> spammers.
> From my perspective, were this a true warning, the originator would have 
> had
> the self-respect and honesty to originate the message from a 
> straightforward
> email address here in the U.s. whose domain is registered here. I haven't
> done a WHOIS on this yet and I'll certainly check out the warning. But I 
> can
> assure you I'll switch to in-private browsing so I'm protected before 
> doing
> so.
>
>
>
> The warning may well be legitimate; I'll comment on it in several messages
> to come.
>
>
>
> But remember that we don't except anonymous reports of anything within 
> NFB:
> if reporters haven't the guts to put their names on their reports, then 
> they
> don't deserve credibility.
>
>
>
> Now, below my name, are the Internet headers. Read carefully.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
>
> From watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org Fri Aug 30 16:46:12 2013
>
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>
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>
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> MIME-Version: 1.0
>
> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>
> To: k7uij at panix.com
>
> Date: 30 Aug 2013 15:46:14 -0500
>
> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>
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>
>
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>
> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org [mailto:watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:46 PM
> To: k7uij at panix.com
> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>
>
>
> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
> letter
> to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the Prodigy
> Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring System,
> Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.  FDA
> inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and  complaints
> that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests that 
> Prodigy's
> device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening injury".  The
> letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes,
> quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots 
> that
> were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy 
> standards.
>
>
> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
> m#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>
>
>
> The Diabetes Watchdog
>
>
>
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From Blindhands at aol.com  Sat Aug 31 20:11:42 2013
From: Blindhands at aol.com (Blindhands at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:11:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Why won't insurance pay for more then 100 strips
	per month?
Message-ID: <7c02a.3fa32a91.3f53a7fe@aol.com>

I am new to Medicare and AARP supplementary  insurance so I don't have  all 
my ducks in a row on what is what, but I was told by my pharmacy that I can 
 only get 100 test strips per month that will be covered.  I called up to  
ask Medicare why and that I have my doctor's perscription saying I test 4 to 
6  times a day.  They told me I have to order thru mail order to get more 
then  100 strips covered.  Since I am new to all of this just this month, I 
am  stumbling around and trying to learn what I need to do.
 
I do have Prodigy Voice and I now have information for a mail order, but I  
am concern now with what has been put up on this list.
 
I just had before I went on Medicare a real hassle getting a new Prodigy  
Voice meter from my old insurance company.  The final thing on that one was  
I had to pay out of pocket $148 for just the meter.  That is what the  
provider charged my insurance company and my insurance company had a $200  
deductible for durable medical devices.  I was very much upset since I  could have 
bought this machine forjust under $50 online.  
 
insurance humbug!
 
Joyce  Kane
_www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
Blindhands at AOL.com 

From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 20:12:50 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:12:50 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	Prodigy	Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: <4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>	<465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
Message-ID: <00df01cea686$786449f0$692cddd0$@panix.com>

I've done a bit of research and it would appear that the warning on the FDA
website itself is legitimate although I'm damned suspicious of the spam
message Vincent and I received.

I confess that I also think some of the criticisms are a bit of pettifoggery
in that I and, I suspect, most blind folks, haven't a clue what the lot
numbers of our strips are and I suspect that almost every meter manufacturer
in the country would flunk the sort of bureaucratic requirements as in
designing "reasonably expect". That doesn't take meter manufacturers off the
hook but it does show that the whole area of meters is pretty slipshod and,
I suspect, will continue to be so until Congress gets over its allergy to
subjecting business to requirements.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:17 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care

I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is not
a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, frankly,
I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have to put our
collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the Solus V2
isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
Mike freeman 

On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:

> Greetings to All:
> 
> FYI...
> 
> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> 
> Vincent
> President DAN of New Jersey
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>> 
>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning
letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the
Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring
System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.
FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and
complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests
that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening
injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing
processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip
lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy
standards. 
>> 
>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
m#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 20:16:19 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:16:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	Prodigy	Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: 8f0c2ea5-a9ef-4f71-a082-5e39c3595d8c@samobile.net
References: 8f0c2ea5-a9ef-4f71-a082-5e39c3595d8c@samobile.net
Message-ID: <00e001cea686$f523b6b0$df6b2410$@panix.com>

Amen, Dotty.

Is the Hungarian meter available in Great Britain? The SensoCardPlus hasn't
been available there for many years and the firm never got very far
submitting a FDA 510(k) application. I must say, it was the only meter
allowing one to delete readings, assuming that we, the customers, had some
sense.

But, as you say, we want to have our cake and eat it two, desiring
"accuracy" (whatever that might mean), speed and little blood. I'm afraid
perfection happens only in Heaven.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Dorothea Martin
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:28 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care

Hello, Mike and All,
It seems to me thatr any glucometer which gives the diabetic a false reading
t rather than the information that there is not enough blood on the strip
would come under the FDA's umbrella of concern. That description fits most
talking glucometers. The problem as I see it is that we need to have our
cake and eat it too on this one. We need a gadget which is cheap electronics
so that our insurance will pay for it, but we need it to have the accuracy
and the large memory of a professional machine, one that we couldn't pay for
and wouldn't want to carry around if we could. I am concerned that this FDA
effort to raise the bar will unwittingly knock out talking meters. The only
talking meters which do not have this problem are the new AutoSense Plus,
made in Hungary and not sold in the US, and the BioSense meters. Now if we
remove the Hungarian meter from consideration, that leaves American
diabetics with no choice, and what is more dangerous, no competition.
Dotty Martin

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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 20:17:26 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:17:26 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W89C39B9481DD37973AAF73A1360@phx.gbl>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
	<465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>,
	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
	<BLU169-W89C39B9481DD37973AAF73A1360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00e101cea687$1d182340$574869c0$@panix.com>

Yup; you're correct. This isn't really new. What *is* new is the spam!

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:24 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care

Mike after reading this and going on to the FDA.gov website, Prodigy has
been inspected and warned and fined for awhile on these issues.

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> From: k7uij at panix.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:17:12 -0700
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care
> 
> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is
not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and,
frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have
to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the
Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
> Mike freeman 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings to All:
> > 
> > FYI...
> > 
> > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> > This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> > 
> > Vincent
> > President DAN of New Jersey
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> >> 
> >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning
letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the
Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring
System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.
FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and
complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests
that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening
injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing
processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip
lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy
standards. 
> >> 
> >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
m#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The Diabetes Watchdog
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 20:21:23 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:21:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
	Prodigy	Diabetes care
In-Reply-To: <20130831140228.n8tnv@att.net>
References: <20130831140228.n8tnv@att.net>
Message-ID: <00e201cea687$aa494f50$fedbedf0$@panix.com>

Colleen:

You're not going to like what I'm going to say below. Part of the problem is
that we're trying to get meters to require with less blood. From what I've
seen, I am coming to the conclusion that we're going to have to tolerate a
requirement of more, not less, blood to get a good analysis. Moreover, I
read a paper a few years ago that pretty convincingly maintained that, given
current microprocessor technology, one could not really even *do* an
accurate analysis in five seconds and that if we wanted real accuracy, we'd
have to go back to meters that take forty-five seconds to analyze what the
strips tell them.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
COLLEEN ROTH
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:02 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care

Hi Mike,
I hope we can get to the bottom of this. 
I understand that there are some Talking Meters which require less blood on
the strip.
Since it is very hard for me or anyone else for that matter to get enough
blood for a reading from me I would like to find a meter which needs less
blood.
If anyone knows of a Talking Meter which require less blood than the Prodigy
Meter I purchased from NFB in 2011 that would be great.
I mentioned where I got the Meter because I am not sure which one I have at
the moment.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:20 am
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
Diabetes care

>
>
> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is
not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and,
frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have
to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the
Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
> Mike freeman 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings to All:
> > 
> > FYI...
> > 
> > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> > This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> > 
> > Vincent
> > President DAN of New Jersey
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> >> 
> >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning
letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the
Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring
System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.
FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and
complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests
that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening
injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing
processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip
lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy
standards. 
> >> 
> >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
m#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The Diabetes Watchdog
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 20:41:52 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:41:52 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued
	to	ProdigyDiabetes care
In-Reply-To: <29708C3EE324475385DC75B1B6B18872@SandiPC>
References: <5D.D2.06539.59401225@in-mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net><465B4AD1-7495-4EA0-A83C-B8665434A05D@optonline.net>	<4C3FC062-FD53-4A45-BF70-493625435418@panix.com>
	<29708C3EE324475385DC75B1B6B18872@SandiPC>
Message-ID: <00ff01cea68a$872ddab0$95899010$@panix.com>

Sandi:

Lauren McClarney and I are working on effective responses to issues such as
this and some of the problems with Medicare. I'm going to be brutally honest
here and I'm sure some won't like it. But I owe you and the members of DAN
nothing less.

First, there are a lot more NFB members who use e-book-readers or
potentially would use them than DAN members. This sounds awful but, as Tom
Lehrer once said, "you can't have opinions about Truth". I think most NFB
members think DAN is successfully handling all issues involving blind
diabetics and are content to have it so. Conclusion: we aren't going to get
much of a ground-swell within NFB to petition agencies to change things. I'm
sure it is so within ACBDA also.

Second, even if we could, what would we do immediately? After all, the
e-reader business is trying to influence regulations implementing a law
already on the books. Hard as this may be to imagine, there really are no
laws on the books that help us much. Oh yes; the Access Board was inquiring
about regulations dealing with *physical* access to medical equipment (can a
person in a wheelchair use a mammogram machine, for example) but there
aren't really laws on the books mandating access by the blind and visually
impaired to medical equipment such as insulin pumps, glucose meters and the
like. The closest we've come is our Technology Bil of Rights and our Home
Appliance Accessibility Act. And you know just about how far those have
gotten. I know some will accuse me of being partisan. I am not; I am talking
facts here. I submit that passage of the Technology Bill of Rights or the
Home Appliance Accessibility Act is highly unlikely in an atmosphere wherein
a substantial portion of the House of Representatives abhors mandates upon
business and may be willing to shut down the government to get rid of
Obamacare without replacing it with anything.

This leaves us, as I see it, with only perhaps two alternatives: (a) we can
advocate that all glucose meters and insulin pumps be made accessible -- a
nonstarter as I've shown above, or (b) going state-by-state and seeking
passage of legislation that (a) requires all equipment to be accessible
and/or (b) mandates that all insurance carriers pay for accessible diabetes
devices and ancillary equipment (strips, control solution, etc.). One could
interpret this, in light of the Prodigy warning, to even include putting
Braille and large-print lot numbers on boxes of strips and control solution.

Either way, we'd have much work to do. And I'm open to other suggestions
that take account of political reality. In other words, I want ideas that
don't mandate that NFB implement Heaven on earth; were this to happen, we
wouldn't need NFB! (huge grin)

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandi Ryan
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:45 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to
ProdigyDiabetes care

Sorry, but it's true.  Having read through the FDA letter, I have no doubt 
whatsoever that this is a real issue, and I have personally experienced 
issues like these with the Prodigy Voice meter.  I have not reported them.

This seems like an issue we must address as a division of NFB, officially! 
It's appalling that in the treatment of diabetes, so many of the devices and

accompanying items are inaccessible or sort of accessible.  Why is it more 
important for an eReader to be completely accessible than a product or 
device that can save or threaten a life?  I believe that not only the DAN, 
but also the whole of NFB needs to be aware of this issue and to speak out 
on it!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to 
ProdigyDiabetes care


> I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is 
> not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and, 
> frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have

> to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the

> Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet.
> Mike freeman
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Greetings to All:
>>
>> FYI...
>>
>> This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
>> This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
>>
>> Vincent
>> President DAN of New Jersey
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
>>> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
>>> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
>>>
>>> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning 
>>> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the 
>>> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose 
>>> Monitoring System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy 
>>> Pocket devices.  FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous 
>>> violations and  complaints that were not properly reported and that 
>>> "reasonably suggests that Prodigy's device may have caused or 
>>> contributed to a life threatening injury".  The letter goes onto detail 
>>> failures in Prodigy's manufacturing processes, quality control 
>>> processes, record keeping, and details test strip lots that were 
>>> distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy standards.
>>>
>>> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website: 
>>>
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
m#.UhYvg45gcaE.email
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Diabetes Watchdog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 20:45:26 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:45:26 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: <BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>
References: <ea3c9.1054013.3f537b1d@aol.com>
	<BLU169-W20F6A2478A39F21B8DFD49A1360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <010001cea68b$06169010$1243b030$@panix.com>

Cheryl:

Thanks much for great advice. This is how I get blood with either the Solo,
Solus or Prodigy. The problem we blind people have to avoid is smearing of
the blood. And you're technique is almost foolproof.

Again, Thanks.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:23 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

 I use Solo Meter with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other a
few times a year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after
lancing your finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip. 
First make sure the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while
holding the meter in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down
meaning, hold the meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I
am bad at describing things.
and then touch the strip to the blood this will take some practice, but the
strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of it side ways.
Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice, the blood will
be warm.
Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what I am doing.
It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller drops then
trying to pinch my fingers harder.
If you need more of an explanation, let me know. 
Since he showed me how to do it, it is much better.
I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places it isn't
on there formulary to get the strips with Medicare.


Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
Independent Travel!
Cheryl Echevarria,
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
#1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a
blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has
partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her
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> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 -0400
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
> Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo 
> meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I
think 
> they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or
hand.  
> I did not think of calling Prodigy.
>  
> If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact  
> Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
>  
> Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you  
> back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the
meter, 
> but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and 
> forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
>  
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> Blindhands at AOL.com 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Aug 31 21:04:16 2013
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:04:16 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
In-Reply-To: 259b5e01-9421-4288-92ad-e98bbd9c5ae6@samobile.net
References: 259b5e01-9421-4288-92ad-e98bbd9c5ae6@samobile.net
Message-ID: <011401cea68d$a7a21560$f6e64020$@panix.com>

Simple: testing urine shows what your bg was several hours ago; testing your
blood glucose gives a good indication of what it is now.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
limestone lady
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:33 AM
To: etscrivani at verizon.net
Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

This is a long story, so I'll keep it short, but one day, I tested with 
two different meters, and got wildly differing results, so you just 
never know for shure.
Does anyone know when they switched diabetics from testing their urine, 
to testing their blood and why?
Linda.

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From limestonelady at samobile.net  Sat Aug 31 21:30:55 2013
From: limestonelady at samobile.net (limestone lady)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:30:55 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued
	to	ProdigyDiabetes care
Message-ID: 1c6c0e0f-e11c-4372-85c0-eef6a7d9b0a0@samobile.net

Well, I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
I'm sooooo glad I live in Canada.
Linda.



From n8tnv at att.net  Sat Aug 31 21:58:16 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:58:16 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
	Diabetes care
Message-ID: <20130831215816.n8tnv@att.net>

Hi Mike,
I may not like it personally because I have problems getting enough blood. I do not care if it takes forty-five seconds or even 90 seconds to get a reading.
I do not even care if the meter has memory because I feel you can just make a list of readings.
If you do not know braille you can do it with a digital recorder.
My problem is the amount of blood which is my problem.
I would like to be able to successful test though.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care

>
>
> Colleen:
> 
> You're not going to like what I'm going to say below. Part of the problem is
> that we're trying to get meters to require with less blood. From what I've
> seen, I am coming to the conclusion that we're going to have to tolerate a
> requirement of more, not less, blood to get a good analysis. Moreover, I
> read a paper a few years ago that pretty convincingly maintained that, given
> current microprocessor technology, one could not really even inind* an
> accurate analysis in five seconds and that if we wanted real accuracy, we'd
> have to go back to meters that take forty-five seconds to analyze what the
> strips tell them.
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> COLLEEN ROTH
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:02 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
> Diabetes care
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I hope we can get to the bottom of this. 
> I understand that there are some Talking Meters which require less blood on
> the strip.
> Since it is very hard for me or anyone else for that matter to get enough
> blood for a reading from me I would like to find a meter which needs less
> blood.
> If anyone knows of a Talking Meter which require less blood than the Prodigy
> Meter I purchased from NFB in 2011 that would be great.
> I mentioned where I got the Meter because I am not sure which one I have at
> the moment.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:20 am
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Fwd: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy
> Diabetes care
> 
> >
> >
> > I'm going to research this a bit before endorsing this to see that it is
> not a bit of industrial sabotage or mischief. I got a copy also and,
> frankly, I'm a bit cautious. If the warning pans out, however, we may have
> to put our collective thinking caps on to figure out how to proceed as the
> Solus V2 isn't on the formulary of many insurance carriers yet. 
> > Mike freeman 
> > 
> > On Aug 30, 2013, at 19:52, Vincent Chaney Jr <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Greetings to All:
> > > 
> > > FYI...
> > > 
> > > This FDA information and the link to the letter are an interesting read.
> > > This may be something to consider if in the plans to buy a meter
> > > 
> > > Vincent
> > > President DAN of New Jersey
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > 
> > >> From: watchdog at diabeteswatchdog.org
> > >> Date: August 30, 2013, 4:46:16 PM EDT
> > >> To: vgc732 at optonline.net
> > >> Subject: FDA Warning Letter Issued to Prodigy Diabetes care
> > >> 
> > >> The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a written warning
> letter to Prodigy Diabetes Care identifying serious violations for the
> Prodigy Blood Glucose Test System, Prodigy Voice Blood Glucose Monitoring
> System, Prodigy Autocode Blood Glucose Meter, and Prodigy Pocket devices.
> FDA inspected Prodigy facilities and cited numerous violations and
> complaints that were not properly reported and that "reasonably suggests
> that Prodigy's device may have caused or contributed to a life threatening
> injury".  The letter goes onto detail failures in Prodigy's manufacturing
> processes, quality control processes, record keeping, and details test strip
> lots that were distributed by the company despite failing to meet accuracy
> standards. 
> > >> 
> > >> The letter can be read in its entirety on the FDA website:
> http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm360148.ht
> m#.Uhallyvg45gcaE.email
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> The Diabetes Watchdog
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> To visit our website click here: Diabetes Watchdog
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From n8tnv at att.net  Sat Aug 31 22:06:12 2013
From: n8tnv at att.net (COLLEEN ROTH)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 18:06:12 -0400
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
Message-ID: <20130831220612.n8tnv@att.net>

Hi Cheryl,
I have even tried to do this with the meter. I must really not be getting much blood.
Of course it is hard for me to get blood for anything.
I think your description was very helpful.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??

>
>
> Cheryl:
> 
> Thanks much for great advice. This is how I get blood with either the Solo,
> Solus or Prodigy. The problem we blind people have to avoid is smearing of
> the blood. And you're technique is almost foolproof.
> 
> Again, Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:23 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> 
>  I use Solo Meter with no problem, Greg Santulli of ADS, we see each other a
> few times a year. Showed me how to take better tests. He said that after
> lancing your finger, instead of trying to find the blood with the strip. 
> First make sure the strip is in the meter, than lance you finger, while
> holding the meter in one hand hold the meter with the strip upside down
> meaning, hold the meter with the strip out the bottom facing down. Sorry I
> am bad at describing things.
> and then touch the strip to the blood this will take some practice, but the
> strip will suck in the blood that way, instead of it side ways.
> Also a way of finding the blood again it will take practice, the blood will
> be warm.
> Dah moments here. Again, trying to explain what I am doing.
> It has helped a lot getting more blood as well with smaller drops then
> trying to pinch my fingers harder.
> If you need more of an explanation, let me know. 
> Since he showed me how to do it, it is much better.
> I like the solo meter much better than the prodigy, but some places it isn't
> on there formulary to get the strips with Medicare.
> 
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
> Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria,
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrave
> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> 
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
> #1018299-10 FLST T156780Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a
> blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
> https://nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314.Echevarria Travel has
> partnered with Braille Smith. http://www.braillesmith.com for all her
> braille needs.Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
> 
> > From: Blindhands at aol.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:00:13 com0400
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Solo meter??
> > 
> > Are folks having troubles similar to the Prodigy meter  with the  Solo 
> > meter??  I have had these problems and if I feel things are not where  I
> think 
> > they should be I test over with blood from a different finger and/or
> hand.  
> > I did not think of calling Prodigy.
> >  
> > If you get the strips from where ever you get them, should you contact  
> > Prodigy or the place you bought the strips from?
> >  
> > Usually, I am not saying this has happen with Prodigy, but they send you  
> > back to where you purchased it.  As in this letter, they replaced the
> meter, 
> > but they did not replace the strips.  So they have you running back  and 
> > forth and all you want is to know what your test results are  correctly.
> >  
> > Joyce  Kane
> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> > Blindhands at AOL.com 
> > _______________________________________________
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