From jon at northcoastmed.com  Mon Dec  1 05:52:21 2008
From: jon at northcoastmed.com (Jon Carey)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:52:21 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Need Info for Ordering Prodigy Voice &
	Test	Strippes?
In-Reply-To: <1E86F565168A4C0082E3E287C3C29E78@eileenPC>
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Eileen,

We can help you get the Prodigy Voice Meter. The manufacturer will only work with reputable distributors and pharmacy's.

I know we are contracted with Express Scripts as well. Give me a call if you would like and I will see what I can do to get the Voice meter and supplies to you and have your insurance cover them.

I can be reached at the the Toll-Free number below 

1-800-730-9887 x 120



Best Regards,



Jonathan Carey
Marketing Director
Advanced Diabetes Supply
1-800-730-9887 x 120
1-800-503-6280  Fax
http://www.northcoastmed.com/
http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/
http://www.glucosepost.com/





From: Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Wed 11/26/2008 5:07 PM
To: Diabetes Talk
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Need Info for Ordering Prodigy Voice & Test Strippes?


Sorry, I sent the below earlier, but it went to the wrong address so I'm trying to send it again.  Thanks for any help.




Hi:

I am having a problem with my mail order pharmacy getting the Prodigy Voice meter & Voice Test Strippes.  I must go through Express Scripts for all my maintenance meds & must get 3 month supplies at a time.  I will not get coverage if I purchase locally.  

Express Scripts uses Cardinal House as their supplier and it is Cardinal House who is telling Express Scripts that they cannot get the talking meter and strippes to go with it.

What contact information & product information do I need to give to Express Scripts to pass along to Cardinal House to get the order filled and in the future to get my three month supplies covered under my plan.  

Thanks for any relevant information that will assist.

Eileen 
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From ebryant at socket.net  Mon Dec  1 16:08:33 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:08:33 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Inhaled Insulin?
References: <000601c94f4a$c6701c20$1100a8c0@Satellite><006701c94fe6$b443bba0$d7bafea9@VALUED664B84C7>
	<BAY131-DS4A8068EB615F7EF13471EA10A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004601c953cf$10eccd60$1100a8c0@Satellite>

Hi Debbie,
    Yes, Cheryl is correct in that about two years ago the inhaled insulin 
studies were discontinued because they were found to be unsafe.
    Note: The one you are referring to from Washington University maybe a 
new one, and not yet proven to be unsafe...

Regards,
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inhaled Insulin?


>I don't know if that is an old study it was out on the market I think last 
>year or it could be 2 years ago, it was pulled. I don't remember why.  Mike 
>or Ed do you remember.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inhaled Insulin?
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> has anyone on here ever done any research studies or used  inhaled 
>> insulin?
>> i live near Washington universtity in St. Louis Mo and they are payinng
>> $1000 for a 25 week study on inhaled insulin in type 1 diabetics.
>> i wanted to know if anyonr on here has ever used inhaled insulin does it
>> work?
>> please let me know.
>> if u are in the area and want to be included in the study let me know 
>> that
>> as well
>> Debbie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:11 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A Daughter's Story
>>
>>
>> > Hi Folks,
>> >    You may know we are working on past Voice editions which are not yet 
>> > on
>> > our website.  The following article is from Vol. 9 no. 4, Fall 1994.
>> >    I wonder how many of us can relate to this story?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ed Bryant
>> >
>> > A daughter's story
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Many people have known the agony of watching a family member waste away
>> > from an incurable disease such as cancer.  Many times all even the 
>> > doctors
>> > can do is try to make the sufferer comfortable. Everyone tries to help.
>> > The family draws together in this time of pain.
>> > What happens when it is one of your own stricken, and you are blind? 
>> > When
>> > your own family hasn't learned that blindness is not synonymous with
>> > inability?  We know education is critical, and stories like the 
>> > following
>> > remind us why.                                      Olivia Ostergaard,
>> > Treasurer of the National Federation of the Blind of California 
>> > Diabetics
>> > Chapter, lived through such a situation.  Although she had been living
>> > independently for years, her own family, believing that "a blind person
>> > couldn't handle it anyway," would not allow her to help care for her
>> > diabetic mother, whose cancer had become terminal.
>> > There is no good reason to bar any capable person from caring for a
>> > stricken loved one.  In a time of such agony, the expression of ancient
>> > prejudices about the blind compounds the pain.   "Imagine not being
>> > allowed to cook a simple soup, because someone was afraid you'd burn 
>> > it!
>> > Imagine total strangers invading your territory, when you should be 
>> > able
>> > to take charge of the situation..." says Ostergaard.
>> > When Olivia's younger (sighted) brother was given power of attorney 
>> > over
>> > their mother's affairs, Olivia felt left out and abandoned.  As she
>> > states:                         "When we went with mother to the 
>> > doctor,
>> > my brother asked if she was terminal.  The doctor denied it, and 
>> > ordered
>> > more tests.  I privately protested, because my brother w!
>> > asn't se
>> > eing what I was seeing.  He was still living in his fantasy that our
>> > mother was going to be all right.  I knew better.  I knew just by the 
>> > way
>> > she was acting.  Her thinking wasn't clear, sometimes.  My brother
>> > wouldn't listen to me.  I was his blind sister, "who didn't know
>> > anything".
>> > Four months later Olivia and her brother lost their mother to terminal
>> > cancer.  Their agony needs no reinforcement here--but a simple point 
>> > needs
>> > making:  Blind folks can handle adversity!  In such a situation, the
>> > burden can be eased by allowing ALL family members to carry their share 
>> > of
>> > it.   Knowledge is power.
>> > _______________________________________________
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>>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Mon Dec  1 21:49:17 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:49:17 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
Message-ID: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>

Hi there my A one C is 5.4
I was so shocked.
Oh me I am so excited.
What is considered normal?
I was told this is close to Normal.
Thanks,

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future




From dmgina at qwest.net  Mon Dec  1 21:55:08 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:55:08 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
Message-ID: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>

Now I was polite,
I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it is 
considered a unnecessary call.
They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
I shared no,
this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
I will keep calling.
How would you have handled the matter.
Thanks,

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future




From etscrivani at verizon.net  Mon Dec  1 22:30:09 2008
From: etscrivani at verizon.net (Eileen Scrivani)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:30:09 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Need Info for Ordering Prodigy Voice
	&	TestStrippes?
In-Reply-To: <8BE04F5A-6DBD-4FB3-89BD-9B74CEAE30B1@mimectl>
References: <1E86F565168A4C0082E3E287C3C29E78@eileenPC>
	<8BE04F5A-6DBD-4FB3-89BD-9B74CEAE30B1@mimectl>
Message-ID: <450AAAD453C940B296B3746CF378C85C@eileenPC>

Jonathan:

Thanks for your offer of help.   and thanks to Vince who posted the 
Diagnostic Devices web site.  I think, finally, I got it straightened out 
with Express Scripts, but it took my hand feeding them all the relevant 
information to get it pushed through.  Miraculously, a meter showed up in 
their supplier's warehouse and they will be shipping it to me in another day 
or so.  What a massive headache from dealing with these people!

Thanks again.

Eileen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Carey" <jon at northcoastmed.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Need Info for Ordering Prodigy Voice & 
TestStrippes?


> Eileen,
>
> We can help you get the Prodigy Voice Meter. The manufacturer will only 
> work with reputable distributors and pharmacy's.
>
> I know we are contracted with Express Scripts as well. Give me a call if 
> you would like and I will see what I can do to get the Voice meter and 
> supplies to you and have your insurance cover them.
>
> I can be reached at the the Toll-Free number below
>
> 1-800-730-9887 x 120
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Jonathan Carey
> Marketing Director
> Advanced Diabetes Supply
> 1-800-730-9887 x 120
> 1-800-503-6280  Fax
> http://www.northcoastmed.com/
> http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/
> http://www.glucosepost.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Eileen Scrivani
> Sent: Wed 11/26/2008 5:07 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Need Info for Ordering Prodigy Voice & Test 
> Strippes?
>
>
> Sorry, I sent the below earlier, but it went to the wrong address so I'm 
> trying to send it again.  Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I am having a problem with my mail order pharmacy getting the Prodigy 
> Voice meter & Voice Test Strippes.  I must go through Express Scripts for 
> all my maintenance meds & must get 3 month supplies at a time.  I will not 
> get coverage if I purchase locally.
>
> Express Scripts uses Cardinal House as their supplier and it is Cardinal 
> House who is telling Express Scripts that they cannot get the talking 
> meter and strippes to go with it.
>
> What contact information & product information do I need to give to 
> Express Scripts to pass along to Cardinal House to get the order filled 
> and in the future to get my three month supplies covered under my plan.
>
> Thanks for any relevant information that will assist.
>
> Eileen
> _______________________________________________
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From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Tue Dec  2 00:50:19 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:50:19 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <1F5369C55A824945BF6B28C7D82FC461@DianePC>

My dr's office always offers to call in the results to me, and I tell them I 
will call them, because my Mom will freak when she hears my A1C, no matter 
how good it is.
There is no reason they can't call you with the results!
Di
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Now I was polite,
> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
> is considered a unnecessary call.
> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> I shared no,
> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> I will keep calling.
> How would you have handled the matter.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From kcc86 at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  2 02:15:10 2008
From: kcc86 at hotmail.com (K C)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:15:10 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl>

Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse 
wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very hopeful for 
you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.

Kijuana


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Now I was polite,
> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
> is considered a unnecessary call.
> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> I shared no,
> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> I will keep calling.
> How would you have handled the matter.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
> 




From dmgina at qwest.net  Tue Dec  2 02:37:23 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:37:23 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>
	<1F5369C55A824945BF6B28C7D82FC461@DianePC>
Message-ID: <83963EB8105D49AE954365410F82E8C2@DG28KX51>

thanks,
I don't want to be rude with anyone, but I don't understand after we have 
been with this office for four years, why they don't get the hint.
Just crazy.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> My dr's office always offers to call in the results to me, and I tell them 
> I will call them, because my Mom will freak when she hears my A1C, no 
> matter how good it is.
> There is no reason they can't call you with the results!
> Di
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:55 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Now I was polite,
>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
>> is considered a unnecessary call.
>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> I shared no,
>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>> I will keep calling.
>> How would you have handled the matter.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> Diabetes-talk:
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>>
>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Tue Dec  2 02:39:05 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:05 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>
	<COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51>

The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can read 
myself,
I was going to keep calling.
And it was necessary for them to call me back.
I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse 
> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very hopeful for 
> you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>
> Kijuana
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Now I was polite,
>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
>> is considered a unnecessary call.
>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> I shared no,
>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>> I will keep calling.
>> How would you have handled the matter.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> Diabetes-talk:
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>>
>
>
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From k7uij at panix.com  Tue Dec  2 04:56:36 2008
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:56:36 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
References: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <305DBCBF13C34093B31FAF60748C7D74@owner96190708e>

Dar:

Congratulations! Although labs differ somewhat, a normal A1C is usually 
considered to be anywhere between 4 and 6.

Bravo!

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C


Hi there my A one C is 5.4
I was so shocked.
Oh me I am so excited.
What is considered normal?
I was told this is close to Normal.
Thanks,

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future


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From kcc86 at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  2 05:11:25 2008
From: kcc86 at hotmail.com (K C)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:11:25 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl>
	<9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV37E805DE90E30EBF797BF5AA000@phx.gbl>

Ok..  God knows I understand!  :)  Until I moved to         Indiana I'd 
never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad to 
report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter what the 
numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms with them 
before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of you..

Kijuana




-- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can read 
> myself,
> I was going to keep calling.
> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse 
>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very hopeful 
>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>
>> Kijuana
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>>> Now I was polite,
>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
>>> is considered a unnecessary call.
>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>> I shared no,
>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>>> I will keep calling.
>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --Dar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>>
>
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From catdancing at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec  2 19:20:45 2008
From: catdancing at sbcglobal.net (catdancing)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:20:45 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
References: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <002101c954b3$14972a20$0202a8c0@VALUED664B84C7>

that's a really good A1C for diabetics the medical field considers an A1C of 
7 to be a good one for people without diabetes the number can be anywhere 
from 4.5 to 7 from what i have learned u must be taking good care of 
yourself way to go.
Debbie
i am a type 1 my last A1C was 5.9 i was also shocked.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C


> Hi there my A one C is 5.4
> I was so shocked.
> Oh me I am so excited.
> What is considered normal?
> I was told this is close to Normal.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Wed Dec  3 02:11:12 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:11:12 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
References: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>
	<002101c954b3$14972a20$0202a8c0@VALUED664B84C7>
Message-ID: <84ECACE80A5748028507CF1AC13EB0DF@DG28KX51>

thanks so much.
I don't know about that, but what I know is if it is cold out my sugars 
drop.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A one C


> that's a really good A1C for diabetics the medical field considers an A1C 
> of 7 to be a good one for people without diabetes the number can be 
> anywhere from 4.5 to 7 from what i have learned u must be taking good care 
> of yourself way to go.
> Debbie
> i am a type 1 my last A1C was 5.9 i was also shocked.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
>
>
>> Hi there my A one C is 5.4
>> I was so shocked.
>> Oh me I am so excited.
>> What is considered normal?
>> I was told this is close to Normal.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> Diabetes-talk:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/catdancing%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Wed Dec  3 02:14:02 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:14:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl><9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51>
	<COL0-DAV37E805DE90E30EBF797BF5AA000@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4F4EB8F47F5D4A2DB409C9805DE8D7E6@DG28KX51>

If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.
Trust me I will keep calling.
I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on behalf of 
the disabled?
Should I ask the Federation to step in?
This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of line.
My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore matters 
and just wait for the doctor to report.
I get excited and want to know.
I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
So learning first helps.
At the same time doesn't.
Hope that makes since.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Ok..  God knows I understand!  :)  Until I moved to         Indiana I'd 
> never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad to 
> report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter what 
> the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms with 
> them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of you..
>
> Kijuana
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can read 
>> myself,
>> I was going to keep calling.
>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse 
>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very hopeful 
>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>>
>>> Kijuana
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now I was polite,
>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because 
>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>>> I shared no,
>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>>>> I will keep calling.
>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> --Dar
>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> Every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>>
>>
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>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Wed Dec  3 02:14:40 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:14:40 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
References: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>
	<305DBCBF13C34093B31FAF60748C7D74@owner96190708e>
Message-ID: <4CECE95FF02B445E945088D40E8AFF59@DG28KX51>

Hi Mike,
I was waiting for you.
thanks so much.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A one C


> Dar:
>
> Congratulations! Although labs differ somewhat, a normal A1C is usually
> considered to be anywhere between 4 and 6.
>
> Bravo!
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:49 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
>
>
> Hi there my A one C is 5.4
> I was so shocked.
> Oh me I am so excited.
> What is considered normal?
> I was told this is close to Normal.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>
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From vgc732 at optonline.net  Wed Dec  3 06:07:51 2008
From: vgc732 at optonline.net (Vincent Chaney)
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51>
	<COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl>
	<9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51>
	<COL0-DAV37E805DE90E30EBF797BF5AA000@phx.gbl>
	<4F4EB8F47F5D4A2DB409C9805DE8D7E6@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <BC15FC09EF994182B3EFB75A0A4CAB56@Vincent>

Dar,

A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 level. You 
appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very tightly. In 
Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the normal range 
is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the range of 6.3 
or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I believe 
said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the first time 
I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this happened to 
him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar to keep 
warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he went into 
a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with 
air-conditioning.
I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If my 
doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond with a 
definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the doctor and not 
stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a satisfactory 
answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I get an 
answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old information 
would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life to work 
on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my number was 
increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused it to 
climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my A1C to 
climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight or 
flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored glycogen 
to the glucose level.
I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time difficult 
to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy Voice" to be a 
little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not as 
frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I do them. 
If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C higher and 
can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on the insulin 
pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier the A1C 
and current BGL controls are noticed. Fortunately I'm stubborn enough not to 
give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be certain of 
the accuracy of my current BGL.

Vince

PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.
Trust me I will keep calling.
I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on behalf of
the disabled?
Should I ask the Federation to step in?
This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of line.
My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore matters
and just wait for the doctor to report.
I get excited and want to know.
I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
So learning first helps.
At the same time doesn't.
Hope that makes since.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Ok..  God knows I understand!  :)  Until I moved to         Indiana I'd
> never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad to
> report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter what
> the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms with
> them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of you..
>
> Kijuana
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can read
>> myself,
>> I was going to keep calling.
>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse
>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very hopeful
>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>>
>>> Kijuana
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now I was polite,
>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because
>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>>> I shared no,
>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>>>> I will keep calling.
>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> --Dar
>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> Every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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From ebryant at socket.net  Wed Dec  3 15:54:29 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:54:29 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
References: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <000301c93dcc$65ddd7b0$1100a8c0@Satellite>

Hi Dar,
    That is great. 5.4 is really good.  The normal is around 4.5.

Congratulations!
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C


> Hi there my A one C is 5.4
> I was so shocked.
> Oh me I am so excited.
> What is considered normal?
> I was told this is close to Normal.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>
>
>
> 




From ebryant at socket.net  Wed Dec  3 16:19:55 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:19:55 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes Info
Message-ID: <007001c93dcf$f6594560$1100a8c0@Satellite>

Hi Folks,
    In The Diabetes Educator Journal: Vol. 34 No. 6 November/December 2008, the following two ads were carried, which may be of interest to you.

1. Zostrix foot lotion for neuropathy pain in feet.  No prescription required.  It is at Walgreens and other retail outlets.  
www.diabeticproducts.com.  
Note: This website is in frames, so you may not be able to read.

2. ReliOn A1c Test with certified lab results by pre-paid mailer.  $9
ReliOn Ultima Test Strips 20 for $9.
Note: I do not know if this A1c test is any good, but the price seems reasonable.

Regards,
Ed Bryant 

From jon at northcoastmed.com  Wed Dec  3 16:43:40 2008
From: jon at northcoastmed.com (Jon Carey)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:43:40 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Chaney
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:08 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

 

Dar,

 

A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 level. You


appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very tightly. In


Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the normal
range 

is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the range of
6.3 

or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I believe


said, each lab can have a slightly different range.

The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the first
time 

I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this happened
to 

him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar to
keep 

warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he went
into 

a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with 

air-conditioning.

I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If my 

doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond with a 

definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the doctor and
not 

stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a satisfactory 

answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I get an 

answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old information


would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life to
work 

on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my number
was 

increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused it to


climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my A1C
to 

climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight or 

flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
glycogen 

to the glucose level.

I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
difficult 

to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy Voice" to
be a 

little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not as 

frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I do
them. 

If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C higher
and 

can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on the
insulin 

pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier the
A1C 

and current BGL controls are noticed. Fortunately I'm stubborn enough
not to 

give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be certain
of 

the accuracy of my current BGL.

 

Vince

 

PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>

To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

 

 

If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.

but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.

Trust me I will keep calling.

I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
behalf of

the disabled?

Should I ask the Federation to step in?

This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of line.

My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore
matters

and just wait for the doctor to report.

I get excited and want to know.

I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.

So learning first helps.

At the same time doesn't.

Hope that makes since.

 

--Dar

www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779

Every saint has a past

every sinner has a future

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>

To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM

Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

 

 

> Ok..  God knows I understand!  :)  Until I moved to         Indiana
I'd

> never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad
to

> report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter
what

> the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms
with

> them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of you..

> 

> Kijuana

> 

> 

> 

> 

> -- 

> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>

> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM

> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

> 

> 

>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.

>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.

>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can
read

>> myself,

>> I was going to keep calling.

>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.

>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.

>> 

>> --Dar

>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779

>> Every saint has a past

>> every sinner has a future

>> 

>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>

>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM

>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

>> 

>> 

>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
nurse

>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very
hopeful

>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.

>>> 

>>> Kijuana

>>> 

>>> 

>>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>

>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM

>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question

>>> 

>>> 

>>>> Now I was polite,

>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
because

>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.

>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.

>>>> I shared no,

>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to
read,

>>>> I will keep calling.

>>>> How would you have handled the matter.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> 

>>>> --Dar

>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779

>>>> Every saint has a past

>>>> every sinner has a future

>>>> 

>>>> 

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>>> 

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From KZakhnini at nfb.org  Fri Dec  5 01:38:00 2008
From: KZakhnini at nfb.org (Zakhnini,
	Karen)
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:38:00 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] NFB Youth Slam
Message-ID: <auto-000077535819@mailfront2.g2host.com>

The National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam A 2009 STEM Leadership Academy

Observe! Discover! Evolve!

Launch rockets, perform astronomy, examine new technology, learn 
about engineering, solve crimes like on CSI, design solutions for the 
environment, meet new friends from all over the United States, play 
goal ball, watch movies, dance, make podcasts, meet blind role 
models, and experience many other adventures at the NFB Youth Slam!

 From July 26-August 1, 2009, two hundred blind and low vision high 
school students will stay at the University of Maryland, College 
Park, to be mentored by blind role models during fun and challenging 
activities meant to build confidence, expand leadership and advocacy 
skills, and increase science literacy. Participants will also attend 
various social events as well as workshops on topics such as 
leadership, career preparation, and advocacy. The NFB Youth Slam will 
culminate in an inspiring rally in Washington DC!

Those interested in participating as students or mentors should 
complete an application by March 1, 2009. After an initial screening 
process, eligible students will be accepted into the program through 
random selection. Students and mentors need not have a strong 
interest in science, technology, engineering, or math (STEM) in order 
to participate, enjoy, and benefit from this academy.

If you are interested in being a student or mentor participant or if 
you'd like to learn more about the NFB Youth Slam visit 
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Send questions about the NFB Youth Slam to youthslam at nfb.org.




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Imagine a Future Full of Opportunity...







From dmgina at qwest.net  Fri Dec  5 22:30:40 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:30:40 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
References: <5EEDEA967AE04432AF3BCF1C2C67D844@DG28KX51>
	<000301c93dcc$65ddd7b0$1100a8c0@Satellite>
Message-ID: <8BCC9C03D3054A96944ADAA02ACC3728@DG28KX51>

wow,
I was so shocked when I tried to put a watch on my arm and I had to pull it 
tighter.
I am loosing weight as well.
thanks so much.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A one C


> Hi Dar,
>    That is great. 5.4 is really good.  The normal is around 4.5.
>
> Congratulations!
> Ed Bryant
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A one C
>
>
>> Hi there my A one C is 5.4
>> I was so shocked.
>> Oh me I am so excited.
>> What is considered normal?
>> I was told this is close to Normal.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Fri Dec  5 22:35:26 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:35:26 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl><9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV37E805DE90E30EBF797BF5AA000@phx.gbl><4F4EB8F47F5D4A2DB409C9805DE8D7E6@DG28KX51>
	<BC15FC09EF994182B3EFB75A0A4CAB56@Vincent>
Message-ID: <BFD98E50B79E440A8722BD607416A7FB@DG28KX51>

yes I sure appreciate that.
I just think of something and then come back for more information.
One of my thoughts was this,
if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to read, 
then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
Just some thoughts.
and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB start something for all doctors 
to put information into acceptable format?

thanks,

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Dar,
>
> A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 level. You
> appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very tightly. In
> Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the normal 
> range
> is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the range of 
> 6.3
> or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I believe
> said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
> The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the first 
> time
> I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this happened to
> him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar to keep
> warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he went 
> into
> a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
> air-conditioning.
> I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If my
> doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond with a
> definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the doctor and 
> not
> stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a satisfactory
> answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I get an
> answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old information
> would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life to work
> on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my number 
> was
> increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused it to
> climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my A1C to
> climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight or
> flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored 
> glycogen
> to the glucose level.
> I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time 
> difficult
> to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy Voice" to be 
> a
> little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not as
> frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I do them.
> If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C higher 
> and
> can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on the 
> insulin
> pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier the A1C
> and current BGL controls are noticed. Fortunately I'm stubborn enough not 
> to
> give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be certain of
> the accuracy of my current BGL.
>
> Vince
>
> PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
> If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
> but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.
> Trust me I will keep calling.
> I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on behalf 
> of
> the disabled?
> Should I ask the Federation to step in?
> This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of line.
> My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore 
> matters
> and just wait for the doctor to report.
> I get excited and want to know.
> I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
> So learning first helps.
> At the same time doesn't.
> Hope that makes since.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Ok..  God knows I understand!  :)  Until I moved to         Indiana I'd
>> never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad to
>> report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter what
>> the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms with
>> them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of you..
>>
>> Kijuana
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can read
>>> myself,
>>> I was going to keep calling.
>>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>>
>>> --Dar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "K C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse
>>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :)  That's very hopeful
>>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>>>
>>>> Kijuana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now I was polite,
>>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because
>>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>>>> I shared no,
>>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>>>>> I will keep calling.
>>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Dar
>>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>>> Every saint has a past
>>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sat Dec  6 07:40:30 2008
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:40:30 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
In-Reply-To: <BFD98E50B79E440A8722BD607416A7FB@DG28KX51>
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl><9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV37E805DE90E30EBF797BF5AA000@phx.gbl><4F4EB8F47F5D4A2DB409C9805DE8D7E6@DG28KX51>
	<BC15FC09EF994182B3EFB75A0A4CAB56@Vincent>
	<BFD98E50B79E440A8722BD607416A7FB@DG28KX51>
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Dar:

First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the ADA; IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which, I presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will ipso facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available to people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille, computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind patient and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does have to produce stuff in alternative formats.

Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably be rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND SSDI WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE BLIND CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO DO SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we can compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind, necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material on our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we couldn't see the print!

Balderdash and squashrot!

Mike Freeman

----- Original Message -----
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

>
>
> yes I sure appreciate that.
> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
> One of my thoughts was this,
> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to read, 
> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
> Just some thoughts.
> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL DOCTORS 
> to put information into acceptable format?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -comDar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> 
> 
> > Dar,
> >
> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 level. You
> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very tightly. In
> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the normal 
> > range
> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the range of 
> > 6.3
> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I believe
> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the first 
> > time
> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this happened to
> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar to keep
> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he went 
> > into
> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
> > air-conditioning.
> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If my
> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond with a
> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the doctor and 
> > not
> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a satisfactory
> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I get an
> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old information
> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life to work
> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my number 
> > was
> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused it to
> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my A1C to
> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight or
> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored 
> > glycogen
> > to the glucose level.
> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time 
> > difficult
> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy Voice" to be 
> > a
> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not as
> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I do them.
> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C higher 
> > and
> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on the 
> > insulin
> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier the A1C
> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn enough not 
> > to
> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be certain of
> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
> >
> > Vince
> >
> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >
> >
> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.
> > Trust me I will keep calling.
> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on behalf 
> > of
> > the disabled?
> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of line.
> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore 
> > matters
> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
> > I get excited and want to know.
> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
> > So learning first helps.
> > At the same time doesn't.
> > Hope that makes since.
> >
> > -comDar
> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > Every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >
> >
> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to         Indiana I'd
> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad to
> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter what
> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms with
> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
> >ar
> >ar Kijuana
> >ar
> >ar
> >ar
> >ar
> >ar -- 
> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >ar
> >ar
> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can read
> >>> myself,
> >>> I was going to keep calling.
> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
> >>>
> >>> -comDar
> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> >>> Every saint has a past
> >>> every sinner has a future
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your nurse
> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's very hopeful
> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kijuana
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Now I was polite,
> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because
> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> >>>>> I shared no,
> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> >>>>> I will keep calling.
> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -comDar
> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> >>>>> Every saint has a past
> >>>>> every sinner has a future
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >ar
> >ar
> >ar _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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From joyce.m.porter at verizon.net  Sat Dec  6 13:29:00 2008
From: joyce.m.porter at verizon.net (Joyce Porter)
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:29:00 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
Joyce


-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question

Now I was polite,
I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it is 
considered a unnecessary call.
They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
I shared no,
this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
I will keep calling.
How would you have handled the matter.
Thanks,

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future


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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  6 17:32:07 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:32:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I do for a 
living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic Health 
Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest laboratory in the 
state of NY.  anyway, from experience. sounds like the nurse is being lazy, 
by law you have every right to now your results and if it wasn't pulled at 
the doctors office and it was pulled at the lab you may call the lab and 
they can give some results not all, but the results should becoming from 
your doctors office, and you can have a copy of all your lab work also, its 
your lab work you have a right to it.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
> Joyce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
> Now I was polite,
> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
> is
> considered a unnecessary call.
> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> I shared no,
> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> I will keep calling.
> How would you have handled the matter.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Sat Dec  6 22:21:52 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:21:52 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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Yes it is my lab work that I am asking about.
And I call the office.
I have asked other doctors if they would take me on, but I don't think it is 
this doctor but the nurses.
I will see what they say on Tuesday.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I do for 
> a living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic 
> Health Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest 
> laboratory in the state of NY.  anyway, from experience. sounds like the 
> nurse is being lazy, by law you have every right to now your results and 
> if it wasn't pulled at the doctors office and it was pulled at the lab you 
> may call the lab and they can give some results not all, but the results 
> should becoming from your doctors office, and you can have a copy of all 
> your lab work also, its your lab work you have a right to it.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
>> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
>> Joyce
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>> Now I was polite,
>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
>> is
>> considered a unnecessary call.
>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> I shared no,
>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>> I will keep calling.
>> How would you have handled the matter.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Sat Dec  6 22:22:58 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:22:58 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <0KBG00KALIQUTNZ3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net>
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the next step is to have this in writing so that I can show folks what is 
being said,
then we will go from there.
I don't think they will want to put in writing that I am not allowed to 
call.
But I will ask.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
> Joyce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
> Now I was polite,
> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it 
> is
> considered a unnecessary call.
> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> I shared no,
> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> I will keep calling.
> How would you have handled the matter.
> Thanks,
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Sat Dec  6 22:27:46 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:27:46 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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Mike,
They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
they decided this on their own.
this is what I am standing up for,
\is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the office 
first what is happening.
Because I feel that I need to know from there.
First.
Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite to 
know.
Others know about their results because they can read them,
it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend 
would read it to me.
I just didn't feel good about it.
Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for myself.
You know what I mean?
If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
I don't know.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Dar:
>
> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the ADA; 
> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA 
> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might 
> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which, I 
> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will ipso 
> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to 
> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available to 
> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is 
> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille, 
> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind patient 
> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is 
> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does 
> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>
> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably be 
> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND SSDI 
> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN 
> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE BLIND 
> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO DO 
> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we can 
> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind, 
> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material on 
> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in 
> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we couldn't 
> see the print!
>
> Balderdash and squashrot!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>>
>>
>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>> One of my thoughts was this,
>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to 
>> read,
>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>> Just some thoughts.
>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL 
>> DOCTORS
>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> -comDar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>> > Dar,
>> >
>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 level. 
>> > You
>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very tightly. 
>> > In
>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the normal
>> > range
>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the range of
>> > 6.3
>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I 
>> > believe
>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the first
>> > time
>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this happened 
>> > to
>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar to 
>> > keep
>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he went
>> > into
>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>> > air-conditioning.
>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If my
>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond with a
>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the doctor 
>> > and
>> > not
>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a satisfactory
>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I get an
>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old 
>> > information
>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life to 
>> > work
>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my 
>> > number
>> > was
>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused it 
>> > to
>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my A1C 
>> > to
>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight or
>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>> > glycogen
>> > to the glucose level.
>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>> > difficult
>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy Voice" to 
>> > be
>> > a
>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not as
>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I do 
>> > them.
>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C higher
>> > and
>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on the
>> > insulin
>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier the 
>> > A1C
>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn enough 
>> > not
>> > to
>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be certain 
>> > of
>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>> >
>> > Vince
>> >
>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >
>> >
>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.
>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on 
>> > behalf
>> > of
>> > the disabled?
>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of 
>> > line.
>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore
>> > matters
>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>> > I get excited and want to know.
>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>> > So learning first helps.
>> > At the same time doesn't.
>> > Hope that makes since.
>> >
>> > -comDar
>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> > Every saint has a past
>> > every sinner has a future
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >
>> >
>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to 
>> >Indiana I'd
>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something bad 
>> >to
>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter 
>> >what
>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms 
>> >with
>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>> >ar
>> >ar Kijuana
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar -- 
>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can 
>> >>> read
>> >>> myself,
>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>> >>>
>> >>> -comDar
>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> >>> Every saint has a past
>> >>> every sinner has a future
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your 
>> >>>> nurse
>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's very 
>> >>>> hopeful
>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kijuana
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is 
>> >>>>> because
>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> >>>>> I shared no,
>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to 
>> >>>>> read,
>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -comDar
>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>
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>> >ar
>> >ar _______________________________________________
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From k7uij at panix.com  Sun Dec  7 06:34:08 2008
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:34:08 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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Dar:

You shoul IMO have someone reading your mail on a regular basis --  
someone you trust. It's necessary to function well in society.

Of course, I don't give a hoot who knows what my A1C (or anything else 
medical about me) is. To me, privacy these days is illusory at best, 
HIPPA notwithstanding! (grin)

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


Mike,
They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
they decided this on their own.
this is what I am standing up for,
\is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the 
office
first what is happening.
Because I feel that I need to know from there.
First.
Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite 
to
know.
Others know about their results because they can read them,
it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend
would read it to me.
I just didn't feel good about it.
Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for 
myself.
You know what I mean?
If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
I don't know.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Dar:
>
> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the 
> ADA;
> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA
> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might
> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which, 
> I
> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will 
> ipso
> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to
> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available 
> to
> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is
> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille,
> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind 
> patient
> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is
> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does
> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>
> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably 
> be
> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND 
> SSDI
> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN
> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE 
> BLIND
> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO 
> DO
> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we 
> can
> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind,
> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material 
> on
> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in
> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we 
> couldn't
> see the print!
>
> Balderdash and squashrot!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>>
>>
>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>> One of my thoughts was this,
>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to
>> read,
>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>> Just some thoughts.
>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL
>> DOCTORS
>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> -comDar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>> > Dar,
>> >
>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 
>> > level.
>> > You
>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very 
>> > tightly.
>> > In
>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the 
>> > normal
>> > range
>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the 
>> > range of
>> > 6.3
>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I
>> > believe
>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the 
>> > first
>> > time
>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this 
>> > happened
>> > to
>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar 
>> > to
>> > keep
>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he 
>> > went
>> > into
>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>> > air-conditioning.
>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If 
>> > my
>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond 
>> > with a
>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the 
>> > doctor
>> > and
>> > not
>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a 
>> > satisfactory
>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I 
>> > get an
>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old
>> > information
>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life 
>> > to
>> > work
>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my
>> > number
>> > was
>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused 
>> > it
>> > to
>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my 
>> > A1C
>> > to
>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight 
>> > or
>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>> > glycogen
>> > to the glucose level.
>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>> > difficult
>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy 
>> > Voice" to
>> > be
>> > a
>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not 
>> > as
>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I 
>> > do
>> > them.
>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C 
>> > higher
>> > and
>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on 
>> > the
>> > insulin
>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier 
>> > the
>> > A1C
>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn 
>> > enough
>> > not
>> > to
>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be 
>> > certain
>> > of
>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>> >
>> > Vince
>> >
>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >
>> >
>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different 
>> > matter.
>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
>> > behalf
>> > of
>> > the disabled?
>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of
>> > line.
>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather 
>> > ignore
>> > matters
>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>> > I get excited and want to know.
>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>> > So learning first helps.
>> > At the same time doesn't.
>> > Hope that makes since.
>> >
>> > -comDar
>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> > Every saint has a past
>> > every sinner has a future
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >
>> >
>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to
>> >Indiana I'd
>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something 
>> >bad
>> >to
>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't 
>> >matter
>> >what
>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to 
>> >terms
>> >with
>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>> >ar
>> >ar Kijuana
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar -- 
>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I 
>> >>> can
>> >>> read
>> >>> myself,
>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>> >>>
>> >>> -comDar
>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> >>> Every saint has a past
>> >>> every sinner has a future
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
>> >>>> nurse
>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's 
>> >>>> very
>> >>>> hopeful
>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kijuana
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
>> >>>>> because
>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> >>>>> I shared no,
>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me 
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> read,
>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -comDar
>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account 
>> >>>>> info
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>> Diabetes-talk:
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>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar _______________________________________________
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>> >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>> >ar
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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From catdancing at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  7 15:33:11 2008
From: catdancing at sbcglobal.net (catdancing)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:33:11 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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	<E99FDEC2DF394189B31565EE63FC5776@owner96190708e>
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that's for sure.....
Debbie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Dar:
>
> You shoul IMO have someone reading your mail on a regular basis --
> someone you trust. It's necessary to function well in society.
>
> Of course, I don't give a hoot who knows what my A1C (or anything else
> medical about me) is. To me, privacy these days is illusory at best,
> HIPPA notwithstanding! (grin)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
> Mike,
> They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
> they decided this on their own.
> this is what I am standing up for,
> \is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the
> office
> first what is happening.
> Because I feel that I need to know from there.
> First.
> Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
> I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite
> to
> know.
> Others know about their results because they can read them,
> it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend
> would read it to me.
> I just didn't feel good about it.
> Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
> gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for
> myself.
> You know what I mean?
> If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
> that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
> I don't know.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Dar:
>>
>> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the
>> ADA;
>> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA
>> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might
>> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which,
>> I
>> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will
>> ipso
>> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to
>> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available
>> to
>> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is
>> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille,
>> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind
>> patient
>> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is
>> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does
>> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably
>> be
>> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND
>> SSDI
>> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN
>> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE
>> BLIND
>> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO
>> DO
>> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we
>> can
>> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind,
>> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material
>> on
>> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in
>> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we
>> couldn't
>> see the print!
>>
>> Balderdash and squashrot!
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>>> One of my thoughts was this,
>>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to
>>> read,
>>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>>> Just some thoughts.
>>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL
>>> DOCTORS
>>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> -comDar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>> > Dar,
>>> >
>>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4
>>> > level.
>>> > You
>>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very
>>> > tightly.
>>> > In
>>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the
>>> > normal
>>> > range
>>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the
>>> > range of
>>> > 6.3
>>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I
>>> > believe
>>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the
>>> > first
>>> > time
>>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this
>>> > happened
>>> > to
>>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar
>>> > to
>>> > keep
>>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he
>>> > went
>>> > into
>>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>>> > air-conditioning.
>>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If
>>> > my
>>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond
>>> > with a
>>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the
>>> > doctor
>>> > and
>>> > not
>>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a
>>> > satisfactory
>>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I
>>> > get an
>>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old
>>> > information
>>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life
>>> > to
>>> > work
>>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my
>>> > number
>>> > was
>>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused
>>> > it
>>> > to
>>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my
>>> > A1C
>>> > to
>>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight
>>> > or
>>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>>> > glycogen
>>> > to the glucose level.
>>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>>> > difficult
>>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy
>>> > Voice" to
>>> > be
>>> > a
>>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not
>>> > as
>>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I
>>> > do
>>> > them.
>>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C
>>> > higher
>>> > and
>>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on
>>> > the
>>> > insulin
>>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier
>>> > the
>>> > A1C
>>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn
>>> > enough
>>> > not
>>> > to
>>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be
>>> > certain
>>> > of
>>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>>> >
>>> > Vince
>>> >
>>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different
>>> > matter.
>>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
>>> > behalf
>>> > of
>>> > the disabled?
>>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of
>>> > line.
>>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather
>>> > ignore
>>> > matters
>>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>>> > I get excited and want to know.
>>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>>> > So learning first helps.
>>> > At the same time doesn't.
>>> > Hope that makes since.
>>> >
>>> > -comDar
>>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> > Every saint has a past
>>> > every sinner has a future
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to
>>> >Indiana I'd
>>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something
>>> >bad
>>> >to
>>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't
>>> >matter
>>> >what
>>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to
>>> >terms
>>> >with
>>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>>> >ar
>>> >ar Kijuana
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar -- 
>>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I
>>> >>> can
>>> >>> read
>>> >>> myself,
>>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -comDar
>>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
>>> >>>> nurse
>>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's
>>> >>>> very
>>> >>>> hopeful
>>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kijuana
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
>>> >>>>> because
>>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>> >>>>> I shared no,
>>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me
>>> >>>>> to
>>> >>>>> read,
>>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -comDar
>>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>> >>>>> info
>>> >>>>> for
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>>
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar _______________________________________________
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>>> >ar http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >ar To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> >for
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk:
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>>> >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>> >ar
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Sun Dec  7 21:51:28 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:51:28 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <164B0A12B78C43A2871FC404B0277FBC@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV2351C4A0616CCE192B0F38AA000@phx.gbl><9DB8B3B90AE44B20AAFBA5A40600B481@DG28KX51><COL0-DAV37E805DE90E30EBF797BF5AA000@phx.gbl><4F4EB8F47F5D4A2DB409C9805DE8D7E6@DG28KX51><BC15FC09EF994182B3EFB75A0A4CAB56@Vincent><BFD98E50B79E440A8722BD607416A7FB@DG28KX51><20081206074030.k7uij@panix.com><3C3B46C51CB14BAC9CBEC2E9A7D57BAC@DG28KX51>
	<E99FDEC2DF394189B31565EE63FC5776@owner96190708e>
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Yes the lady who is reading the mail has been with us for four years.
They decided not to send it to me in the mail, and tell me when I get there.
I feel as a person I should decide how I wish my mail sent or what is sent.
I don't know if they do this with everyone, but I am sure they don't.
Except the blind.
Then my husband doesn't mind waiting.
Just the difference between the two of us.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Dar:
>
> You shoul IMO have someone reading your mail on a regular basis --
> someone you trust. It's necessary to function well in society.
>
> Of course, I don't give a hoot who knows what my A1C (or anything else
> medical about me) is. To me, privacy these days is illusory at best,
> HIPPA notwithstanding! (grin)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
> Mike,
> They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
> they decided this on their own.
> this is what I am standing up for,
> \is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the
> office
> first what is happening.
> Because I feel that I need to know from there.
> First.
> Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
> I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite
> to
> know.
> Others know about their results because they can read them,
> it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend
> would read it to me.
> I just didn't feel good about it.
> Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
> gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for
> myself.
> You know what I mean?
> If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
> that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
> I don't know.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Dar:
>>
>> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the
>> ADA;
>> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA
>> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might
>> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which,
>> I
>> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will
>> ipso
>> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to
>> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available
>> to
>> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is
>> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille,
>> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind
>> patient
>> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is
>> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does
>> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably
>> be
>> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND
>> SSDI
>> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN
>> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE
>> BLIND
>> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO
>> DO
>> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we
>> can
>> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind,
>> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material
>> on
>> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in
>> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we
>> couldn't
>> see the print!
>>
>> Balderdash and squashrot!
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>>> One of my thoughts was this,
>>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to
>>> read,
>>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>>> Just some thoughts.
>>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL
>>> DOCTORS
>>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> -comDar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>> > Dar,
>>> >
>>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4
>>> > level.
>>> > You
>>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very
>>> > tightly.
>>> > In
>>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the
>>> > normal
>>> > range
>>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the
>>> > range of
>>> > 6.3
>>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I
>>> > believe
>>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the
>>> > first
>>> > time
>>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this
>>> > happened
>>> > to
>>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar
>>> > to
>>> > keep
>>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he
>>> > went
>>> > into
>>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>>> > air-conditioning.
>>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If
>>> > my
>>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond
>>> > with a
>>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the
>>> > doctor
>>> > and
>>> > not
>>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a
>>> > satisfactory
>>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I
>>> > get an
>>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old
>>> > information
>>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life
>>> > to
>>> > work
>>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my
>>> > number
>>> > was
>>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused
>>> > it
>>> > to
>>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my
>>> > A1C
>>> > to
>>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight
>>> > or
>>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>>> > glycogen
>>> > to the glucose level.
>>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>>> > difficult
>>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy
>>> > Voice" to
>>> > be
>>> > a
>>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not
>>> > as
>>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I
>>> > do
>>> > them.
>>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C
>>> > higher
>>> > and
>>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on
>>> > the
>>> > insulin
>>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier
>>> > the
>>> > A1C
>>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn
>>> > enough
>>> > not
>>> > to
>>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be
>>> > certain
>>> > of
>>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>>> >
>>> > Vince
>>> >
>>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different
>>> > matter.
>>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
>>> > behalf
>>> > of
>>> > the disabled?
>>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of
>>> > line.
>>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather
>>> > ignore
>>> > matters
>>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>>> > I get excited and want to know.
>>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>>> > So learning first helps.
>>> > At the same time doesn't.
>>> > Hope that makes since.
>>> >
>>> > -comDar
>>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> > Every saint has a past
>>> > every sinner has a future
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to
>>> >Indiana I'd
>>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something
>>> >bad
>>> >to
>>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't
>>> >matter
>>> >what
>>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to
>>> >terms
>>> >with
>>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>>> >ar
>>> >ar Kijuana
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar -- 
>>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I
>>> >>> can
>>> >>> read
>>> >>> myself,
>>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -comDar
>>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
>>> >>>> nurse
>>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's
>>> >>>> very
>>> >>>> hopeful
>>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kijuana
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
>>> >>>>> because
>>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>> >>>>> I shared no,
>>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me
>>> >>>>> to
>>> >>>>> read,
>>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -comDar
>>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>> >>>>> info
>>> >>>>> for
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
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>>> >>>> for
>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> Diabetes-talk:
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>>> >>>
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar _______________________________________________
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >ar http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >ar To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> >for
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk:
>>> >ar
>>> >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>> >ar
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
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>>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> > for
>>> > Diabetes-talk:
>>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/vgc732%40optonline.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>>
>
>
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  7 22:42:18 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:42:18 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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	<C1286AD2C75C4FE0A049B5BF2F0A15A5@DG28KX51>
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here in New York, we are working on the blind patients bill of rights, I 
already have a sponsor in the Assembly here in NY, if anyone is interested 
in reading about it, you can go to nfbny.org and read the fact sheet.

also, what is going on with the insulin pen companies, are we working on 
this, and where are we on it.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Yes it is my lab work that I am asking about.
> And I call the office.
> I have asked other doctors if they would take me on, but I don't think it 
> is
> this doctor but the nurses.
> I will see what they say on Tuesday.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
> > let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I do 
> > for
> > a living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic
> > Health Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest
> > laboratory in the state of NY.  anyway, from experience. sounds like the
> > nurse is being lazy, by law you have every right to now your results and
> > if it wasn't pulled at the doctors office and it was pulled at the lab 
> > you
> > may call the lab and they can give some results not all, but the results
> > should becoming from your doctors office, and you can have a copy of all
> > your lab work also, its your lab work you have a right to it.
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > Treasurer
> > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
> > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >
> >
> >> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
> >> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
> >> Joyce
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
> >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
> >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >>
> >> Now I was polite,
> >> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because 
> >> it
> >> is
> >> considered a unnecessary call.
> >> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> >> I shared no,
> >> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> >> I will keep calling.
> >> How would you have handled the matter.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> --Dar
> >> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> >> Every saint has a past
> >> every sinner has a future
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> >> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> Diabetes-talk:
> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/joyce.m.porte
> >> r%40verizon.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date:
> >> 12/2/2008
> >> 9:31 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> >> Diabetes-talk:
> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > Diabetes-talk:
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> 



From k7uij at panix.com  Sun Dec  7 23:36:16 2008
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:36:16 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
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Cheryl:

I am in communication with Aarn Williams who knows people at Eli Lilly who have some influence. I am in the process of getting addresses etc. of chief executive officers of this company and Novo Nordisk to send letters of protest. I have the letter drafted. However, I wear multiple hats within NFB and I admit that some other commitments have taken my attention until now. But work on the pen issue along with some others is at the top of my priority list.

Thanks for keeping me honest.

Mike Freeman

----- Original Message -----
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: 2008/12/07 23:17:11
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question

>
>
> here in New York, we are working on the blind patients bill of rights, I 
> already have a sponsor in the Assembly here in NY, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED 
> in reading about it, you can go to nfbny.org and read the fact sheet.
> 
> also, what is going on with the insulin pen companies, are we working on 
> this, and where are we on it.
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU AND DAN
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> 
> 
> > Yes it is my lab work that I am asking about.
> > And I call the office.
> > I have asked other doctors if they would take me on, but I don't think it 
> > is
> > this doctor but the nurses.
> > I will see what they say on Tuesday.
> >
> > -comDar
> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > Every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> >
> >
> > > let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I do 
> > > for
> > > a living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic
> > > Health Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest
> > > laboratory in the state of NY.  ANYWAY, FROM EXPERIENCE. SOUNDS LIKE THE
> > > nurse is being lazy, by law you have every right to now your results and
> > > if it wasn't pulled at the doctors office and it was pulled at the lab 
> > > you
> > > may call the lab and they can give some results not all, but the results
> > > should becoming from your doctors office, and you can have a copy of all
> > > your lab work also, its your lab work you have a right to it.
> > >
> > > Cheryl Echevarria
> > > Treasurer
> > > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> > > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU AND DAN
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
> > > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> > >
> > >
> > >ar You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
> > >ar tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
> > >ar Joyce
> > >ar
> > >ar
> > >ar -----Original Message-----
> > >ar From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >ar [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
> > >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
> > >ar To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> > >ar Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> > >ar
> > >ar Now I was polite,
> > >ar I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because 
> > >ar it
> > >ar is
> > >ar considered a unnecessary call.
> > >ar They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
> > >ar I shared no,
> > >ar this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
> > >ar I will keep calling.
> > >ar How would you have handled the matter.
> > >ar Thanks,
> > >ar
> > >ar -comDar
> > >ar www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > >ar Every saint has a past
> > >ar every sinner has a future
> > >ar
> > >ar
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> > >ar -- 
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> > >ar
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Mon Dec  8 00:09:02 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:09:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <0KBG00KALIQUTNZ3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><BAY131-DS7CC7C36058463C0951EDCA1FF0@phx.gbl><C1286AD2C75C4FE0A049B5BF2F0A15A5@DG28KX51>
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For me to sit down and read lots of stuff I just get confused in the middle.
what is the bottom line of your rite?

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> here in New York, we are working on the blind patients bill of rights, I 
> already have a sponsor in the Assembly here in NY, if anyone is interested 
> in reading about it, you can go to nfbny.org and read the fact sheet.
>
> also, what is going on with the insulin pen companies, are we working on 
> this, and where are we on it.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Yes it is my lab work that I am asking about.
>> And I call the office.
>> I have asked other doctors if they would take me on, but I don't think it 
>> is
>> this doctor but the nurses.
>> I will see what they say on Tuesday.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>> > let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I do 
>> > for
>> > a living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic
>> > Health Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest
>> > laboratory in the state of NY.  anyway, from experience. sounds like 
>> > the
>> > nurse is being lazy, by law you have every right to now your results 
>> > and
>> > if it wasn't pulled at the doctors office and it was pulled at the lab 
>> > you
>> > may call the lab and they can give some results not all, but the 
>> > results
>> > should becoming from your doctors office, and you can have a copy of 
>> > all
>> > your lab work also, its your lab work you have a right to it.
>> >
>> > Cheryl Echevarria
>> > Treasurer
>> > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
>> > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>> > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >
>> >
>> >> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
>> >> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
>> >> Joyce
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
>> >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> >> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >>
>> >> Now I was polite,
>> >> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because 
>> >> it
>> >> is
>> >> considered a unnecessary call.
>> >> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> >> I shared no,
>> >> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>> >> I will keep calling.
>> >> How would you have handled the matter.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> --Dar
>> >> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> >> Every saint has a past
>> >> every sinner has a future
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> >> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> >> Diabetes-talk:
>> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/joyce.m.porte
>> >> r%40verizon.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- 
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>> >> 12/2/2008
>> >> 9:31 AM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Mon Dec  8 00:09:56 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:09:56 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
References: <0KBG00KALIQUTNZ3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net><BAY131-DS7CC7C36058463C0951EDCA1FF0@phx.gbl><C1286AD2C75C4FE0A049B5BF2F0A15A5@DG28KX51><BAY131-DS7F3DC9D0A6576F5F54595A1FC0@phx.gbl>
	<20081207233616.k7uij@panix.com>
Message-ID: <C40A7ECC86C4427E8713E1F5DEA3F4AF@DG28KX51>

You honest,
hmmmhmmmhmmm
Giggle.
smile.
I like you just the way you was.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question


> Cheryl:
>
> I am in communication with Aarn Williams who knows people at Eli Lilly who 
> have some influence. I am in the process of getting addresses etc. of 
> chief executive officers of this company and Novo Nordisk to send letters 
> of protest. I have the letter drafted. However, I wear multiple hats 
> within NFB and I admit that some other commitments have taken my attention 
> until now. But work on the pen issue along with some others is at the top 
> of my priority list.
>
> Thanks for keeping me honest.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2008/12/07 23:17:11
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>>
>>
>> here in New York, we are working on the blind patients bill of rights, I
>> already have a sponsor in the Assembly here in NY, IF ANYONE IS 
>> INTERESTED
>> in reading about it, you can go to nfbny.org and read the fact sheet.
>>
>> also, what is going on with the insulin pen companies, are we working on
>> this, and where are we on it.
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria
>> Treasurer
>> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
>> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU AND DAN
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>> > Yes it is my lab work that I am asking about.
>> > And I call the office.
>> > I have asked other doctors if they would take me on, but I don't think 
>> > it
>> > is
>> > this doctor but the nurses.
>> > I will see what they say on Tuesday.
>> >
>> > -comDar
>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> > Every saint has a past
>> > every sinner has a future
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:32 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> >
>> >
>> > > let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I 
>> > > do
>> > > for
>> > > a living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic
>> > > Health Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest
>> > > laboratory in the state of NY.  ANYWAY, FROM EXPERIENCE. SOUNDS LIKE 
>> > > THE
>> > > nurse is being lazy, by law you have every right to now your results 
>> > > and
>> > > if it wasn't pulled at the doctors office and it was pulled at the 
>> > > lab
>> > > you
>> > > may call the lab and they can give some results not all, but the 
>> > > results
>> > > should becoming from your doctors office, and you can have a copy of 
>> > > all
>> > > your lab work also, its your lab work you have a right to it.
>> > >
>> > > Cheryl Echevarria
>> > > Treasurer
>> > > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
>> > > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU AND DAN
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>> > > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >ar You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were 
>> > >very
>> > >ar tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
>> > >ar Joyce
>> > >ar
>> > >ar
>> > >ar -----Original Message-----
>> > >ar From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > >ar [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
>> > >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> > >ar To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> > >ar Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>> > >ar
>> > >ar Now I was polite,
>> > >ar I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is 
>> > >because
>> > >ar it
>> > >ar is
>> > >ar considered a unnecessary call.
>> > >ar They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> > >ar I shared no,
>> > >ar this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to 
>> > >read,
>> > >ar I will keep calling.
>> > >ar How would you have handled the matter.
>> > >ar Thanks,
>> > >ar
>> > >ar -comDar
>> > >ar www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> > >ar Every saint has a past
>> > >ar every sinner has a future
>> > >ar
>> > >ar
>> > >ar _______________________________________________
>> > >ar Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> > >ar Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>> > >for
>> > >ar Diabetes-talk:
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>> > >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/joyce.m.porte
>> > >ar r%40verizon.net
>> > >ar
>> > >ar
>> > >ar -- 
>> > >ar No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > >ar Checked by AVG.
>> > >ar Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date:
>> > >ar 12/2/2008
>> > >ar 9:31 AM
>> > >ar
>> > >ar
>> > >ar
>> > >ar _______________________________________________
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>> > >ar
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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From bandbjacobs at verizon.net  Mon Dec  8 17:27:46 2008
From: bandbjacobs at verizon.net (The Jacobs' Family)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Question.
References: <mailman.28.1228672803.7763.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <012801c9595a$49a86070$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>


---Hey Dar:  Sounds like everyone's in agreement here.  Might I add though, 
that so often people tell me, "Bern, Maybe you should try the Velvet Glove?" 
Are you kidding?  Velvet is for the rich!!!  The closest I can come is 
VaLure, if I think itr's worth my time.  And, guess what?  This isn't worth 
my time--Velvet or VaLure.  Keep up the persistance Honey!!!  You do have 
the right to know your results without having some kind soul, no matter who 
it is, read the letter.  With something such as that, you shouldn't have to 
depend on someone for that!!  I'd tell that wench that you, and you only, 
are to decide which calls are necessary/unnecessary, especially when it 
pertains to you and your lab results.  I would thank her to get out of my 
face with that crud!!!  Pure, plain, and simple.  And, if she didn't like 
it, she could just cram, ram, and rotate it anyway, and just get over it!!!

Oh Honey!!!  I find this absolutely outrageous!!!

Bern-- Original Message ----- 
From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 6


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>   4. Re: A question (Mike Freeman)
>   5. Re: A question (catdancing)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:21:52 -0700
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <C1286AD2C75C4FE0A049B5BF2F0A15A5 at DG28KX51>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Yes it is my lab work that I am asking about.
> And I call the office.
> I have asked other doctors if they would take me on, but I don't think it 
> is
> this doctor but the nurses.
> I will see what they say on Tuesday.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> let me just say, for those of you who are new or do not know what I do 
>> for
>> a living I work for Sunrise Medical Laboratory which is own by sonic
>> Health Care, currently they own us and acs, so we are the largest
>> laboratory in the state of NY.  anyway, from experience. sounds like the
>> nurse is being lazy, by law you have every right to now your results and
>> if it wasn't pulled at the doctors office and it was pulled at the lab 
>> you
>> may call the lab and they can give some results not all, but the results
>> should becoming from your doctors office, and you can have a copy of all
>> your lab work also, its your lab work you have a right to it.
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria
>> Treasurer
>> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
>> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>>> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
>>> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
>>> Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>> Now I was polite,
>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it
>>> is
>>> considered a unnecessary call.
>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>> I shared no,
>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>>> I will keep calling.
>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --Dar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:22:58 -0700
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> the next step is to have this in writing so that I can show folks what is
> being said,
> then we will go from there.
> I don't think they will want to put in writing that I am not allowed to
> call.
> But I will ask.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 6:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> You handled it correctly as far as I am concerned, Dar.  You were very
>> tactful.  Sometimes that works; sometimes, well, you know the rest.
>> Joyce
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dmgina
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>> Now I was polite,
>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is because it
>> is
>> considered a unnecessary call.
>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>> I shared no,
>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to read,
>> I will keep calling.
>> How would you have handled the matter.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:27:46 -0700
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Mike,
> They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
> they decided this on their own.
> this is what I am standing up for,
> \is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the 
> office
> first what is happening.
> Because I feel that I need to know from there.
> First.
> Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
> I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite 
> to
> know.
> Others know about their results because they can read them,
> it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend
> would read it to me.
> I just didn't feel good about it.
> Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
> gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for 
> myself.
> You know what I mean?
> If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
> that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
> I don't know.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Dar:
>>
>> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the ADA;
>> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA
>> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might
>> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which, I
>> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will ipso
>> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to
>> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available to
>> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is
>> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille,
>> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind patient
>> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is
>> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does
>> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably be
>> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND SSDI
>> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN
>> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE BLIND
>> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO DO
>> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we can
>> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind,
>> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material on
>> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in
>> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we couldn't
>> see the print!
>>
>> Balderdash and squashrot!
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>>> One of my thoughts was this,
>>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to
>>> read,
>>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>>> Just some thoughts.
>>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL
>>> DOCTORS
>>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> -comDar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>> > Dar,
>>> >
>>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4 level.
>>> > You
>>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very tightly.
>>> > In
>>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the normal
>>> > range
>>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the range 
>>> > of
>>> > 6.3
>>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I
>>> > believe
>>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the 
>>> > first
>>> > time
>>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this 
>>> > happened
>>> > to
>>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar to
>>> > keep
>>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he 
>>> > went
>>> > into
>>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>>> > air-conditioning.
>>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If my
>>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond with 
>>> > a
>>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the doctor
>>> > and
>>> > not
>>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a satisfactory
>>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I get 
>>> > an
>>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old
>>> > information
>>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life to
>>> > work
>>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my
>>> > number
>>> > was
>>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused it
>>> > to
>>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my A1C
>>> > to
>>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight or
>>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>>> > glycogen
>>> > to the glucose level.
>>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>>> > difficult
>>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy Voice" 
>>> > to
>>> > be
>>> > a
>>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not as
>>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I do
>>> > them.
>>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C 
>>> > higher
>>> > and
>>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on the
>>> > insulin
>>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier the
>>> > A1C
>>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn enough
>>> > not
>>> > to
>>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be 
>>> > certain
>>> > of
>>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>>> >
>>> > Vince
>>> >
>>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different matter.
>>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
>>> > behalf
>>> > of
>>> > the disabled?
>>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of
>>> > line.
>>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather ignore
>>> > matters
>>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>>> > I get excited and want to know.
>>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>>> > So learning first helps.
>>> > At the same time doesn't.
>>> > Hope that makes since.
>>> >
>>> > -comDar
>>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> > Every saint has a past
>>> > every sinner has a future
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to
>>> >Indiana I'd
>>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something 
>>> >bad
>>> >to
>>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't matter
>>> >what
>>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to terms
>>> >with
>>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>>> >ar
>>> >ar Kijuana
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar -- 
>>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I can
>>> >>> read
>>> >>> myself,
>>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -comDar
>>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
>>> >>>> nurse
>>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's very
>>> >>>> hopeful
>>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kijuana
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
>>> >>>>> because
>>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>> >>>>> I shared no,
>>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me to
>>> >>>>> read,
>>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -comDar
>>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
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>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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>>> >ar
>>> >ar
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>>> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:34:08 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <E99FDEC2DF394189B31565EE63FC5776 at owner96190708e>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Dar:
>
> You shoul IMO have someone reading your mail on a regular basis --
> someone you trust. It's necessary to function well in society.
>
> Of course, I don't give a hoot who knows what my A1C (or anything else
> medical about me) is. To me, privacy these days is illusory at best,
> HIPPA notwithstanding! (grin)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
> Mike,
> They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
> they decided this on their own.
> this is what I am standing up for,
> \is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the
> office
> first what is happening.
> Because I feel that I need to know from there.
> First.
> Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
> I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite
> to
> know.
> Others know about their results because they can read them,
> it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend
> would read it to me.
> I just didn't feel good about it.
> Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
> gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for
> myself.
> You know what I mean?
> If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
> that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
> I don't know.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Dar:
>>
>> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the
>> ADA;
>> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA
>> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might
>> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which,
>> I
>> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will
>> ipso
>> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to
>> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available
>> to
>> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is
>> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille,
>> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind
>> patient
>> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is
>> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does
>> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably
>> be
>> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND
>> SSDI
>> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN
>> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE
>> BLIND
>> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO
>> DO
>> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we
>> can
>> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind,
>> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material
>> on
>> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in
>> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we
>> couldn't
>> see the print!
>>
>> Balderdash and squashrot!
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>>> One of my thoughts was this,
>>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to
>>> read,
>>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>>> Just some thoughts.
>>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL
>>> DOCTORS
>>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> -comDar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>
>>> > Dar,
>>> >
>>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4
>>> > level.
>>> > You
>>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very
>>> > tightly.
>>> > In
>>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the
>>> > normal
>>> > range
>>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the
>>> > range of
>>> > 6.3
>>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I
>>> > believe
>>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the
>>> > first
>>> > time
>>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this
>>> > happened
>>> > to
>>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar
>>> > to
>>> > keep
>>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he
>>> > went
>>> > into
>>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>>> > air-conditioning.
>>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If
>>> > my
>>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond
>>> > with a
>>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the
>>> > doctor
>>> > and
>>> > not
>>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a
>>> > satisfactory
>>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I
>>> > get an
>>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old
>>> > information
>>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life
>>> > to
>>> > work
>>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my
>>> > number
>>> > was
>>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused
>>> > it
>>> > to
>>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my
>>> > A1C
>>> > to
>>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight
>>> > or
>>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>>> > glycogen
>>> > to the glucose level.
>>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>>> > difficult
>>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy
>>> > Voice" to
>>> > be
>>> > a
>>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not
>>> > as
>>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I
>>> > do
>>> > them.
>>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C
>>> > higher
>>> > and
>>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on
>>> > the
>>> > insulin
>>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier
>>> > the
>>> > A1C
>>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn
>>> > enough
>>> > not
>>> > to
>>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be
>>> > certain
>>> > of
>>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>>> >
>>> > Vince
>>> >
>>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different
>>> > matter.
>>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
>>> > behalf
>>> > of
>>> > the disabled?
>>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of
>>> > line.
>>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather
>>> > ignore
>>> > matters
>>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>>> > I get excited and want to know.
>>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>>> > So learning first helps.
>>> > At the same time doesn't.
>>> > Hope that makes since.
>>> >
>>> > -comDar
>>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> > Every saint has a past
>>> > every sinner has a future
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to
>>> >Indiana I'd
>>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something
>>> >bad
>>> >to
>>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't
>>> >matter
>>> >what
>>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to
>>> >terms
>>> >with
>>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>>> >ar
>>> >ar Kijuana
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar -- 
>>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I
>>> >>> can
>>> >>> read
>>> >>> myself,
>>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -comDar
>>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
>>> >>>> nurse
>>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's
>>> >>>> very
>>> >>>> hopeful
>>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kijuana
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
>>> >>>>> because
>>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>> >>>>> I shared no,
>>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me
>>> >>>>> to
>>> >>>>> read,
>>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -comDar
>>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>> >>>>> info
>>> >>>>> for
>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/kcc86%40hotmail.com
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
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>>> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
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>>> >>>> for
>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
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>>> >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>>> >>> Diabetes-talk:
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>>> >>>
>>> >ar
>>> >ar
>>> >ar _______________________________________________
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >ar http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> >ar To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> >for
>>> >ar Diabetes-talk:
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>>> >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>> >ar
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:33:11 -0600
> From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>
> that's for sure.....
> Debbie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>
>
>> Dar:
>>
>> You shoul IMO have someone reading your mail on a regular basis --
>> someone you trust. It's necessary to function well in society.
>>
>> Of course, I don't give a hoot who knows what my A1C (or anything else
>> medical about me) is. To me, privacy these days is illusory at best,
>> HIPPA notwithstanding! (grin)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>> They wont even send me print because it can be read at the office.
>> they decided this on their own.
>> this is what I am standing up for,
>> \is that I don't mind the print, but would like to find out from the
>> office
>> first what is happening.
>> Because I feel that I need to know from there.
>> First.
>> Not have just anyone reading my mail tell me.
>> I will keep calling, because it is on my behalf and I know I have a rite
>> to
>> know.
>> Others know about their results because they can read them,
>> it was embarrassing when I would get a mammogram report and Jim's friend
>> would read it to me.
>> I just didn't feel good about it.
>> Sure we laughed, but I felt as if my privacy was taken away.
>> gosh why not put it on the radio or TV if I can't have something for
>> myself.
>> You know what I mean?
>> If the folks print it out, I am hoping that the scanner would read it.
>> that didn't happen before, but I would think it should now.
>> I don't know.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>
>>
>>> Dar:
>>>
>>> First, the Federal Government does not fall under the rhubric of the
>>> ADA;
>>> IT IS SUBJECT TO Section 504 of the Rehab Act. So while any ADA
>>> REQUIREMENTS MANDATED BY THE COURTS OR THE Department of Justice might
>>> serve as a model and a precedent for a suit under Section 504 (which,
>>> I
>>> presume, is the case here), it does not mean that such a suit will
>>> ipso
>>> facto succeed. The ADA IS INTERPRETED BY THE Department of Justice to
>>> require that doctors (and thetheir offices) make information available
>>> to
>>> people with disabilities but this does not mean that the material is
>>> mandated to be provided in alternative formats such as in braille,
>>> computer disk or tape; the information could be read to the blind
>>> patient
>>> and this would fulfill the requirement. But the Federal Government is
>>> under stricter requirements than is private industry and probably does
>>> have to produce stuff in alternative formats.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, I'm going to venture an opinion here which will probably
>>> be
>>> rather unpopular: isn't a suit alleging that recipients of SSI AND
>>> SSDI
>>> WHO ARE BLIND MISSED IMPORTANT NOTICES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEM IN
>>> BRAILLE OR LARGE PRINT OR ON TAPE SAYING, IN EFFECT, THAT WE, THE
>>> BLIND
>>> CAN'T HANDLE PRINTED MATERIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO
>>> DO
>>> SO? Does this line of thinking not contradict NFBs insistence that we
>>> can
>>> compete on terms of equality with the sighted (which, to my mind,
>>> necessarily implies that we can and should deal with printed material
>>> on
>>> our own)? This was the very reason we objected to the currency suit in
>>> that it alleged we were being discriminated against because we
>>> couldn't
>>> see the print!
>>>
>>> Balderdash and squashrot!
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: 2008/12/05 23:50:10
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes I sure appreciate that.
>>>> I just think of something and then come back for more information.
>>>> One of my thoughts was this,
>>>> if the Social security has to put information into a format for us to
>>>> read,
>>>> then are not the doctors going against the ADA?
>>>> Just some thoughts.
>>>> and if this is correct, then shouldn't NFB START SOMETHING FOR ALL
>>>> DOCTORS
>>>> to put information into acceptable format?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -comDar
>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> Every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Vincent Chaney" <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Dar,
>>>> >
>>>> > A very big hand and congratulations on achieving your A1C 5.4
>>>> > level.
>>>> > You
>>>> > appear to be managing your food, insulin and activities very
>>>> > tightly.
>>>> > In
>>>> > Central New Jersey, my doctor and the labs I have gone to, the
>>>> > normal
>>>> > range
>>>> > is from 4.5 to 5.9 with my doctor having my goals to be in the
>>>> > range of
>>>> > 6.3
>>>> > or lower. The lab I am currently using is Lab Core and as Mike I
>>>> > believe
>>>> > said, each lab can have a slightly different range.
>>>> > The lowering of your blood sugar in the colder weather is not the
>>>> > first
>>>> > time
>>>> > I've heard this. My wife and I have a friend who had said this
>>>> > happened
>>>> > to
>>>> > him and he had learned it was due to the body burning up the sugar
>>>> > to
>>>> > keep
>>>> > warm. He was sensitive enough that it would sometimes happen if he
>>>> > went
>>>> > into
>>>> > a very cool to cold building or house in the summer as well with
>>>> > air-conditioning.
>>>> > I have purposely held the issue of your doctor's office to last. If
>>>> > my
>>>> > doctor's staff said it was "unnecessary to call" I would respond
>>>> > with a
>>>> > definite tone that either I needed to speak directly with the
>>>> > doctor
>>>> > and
>>>> > not
>>>> > stop until I had or do a quick answer that that was not a
>>>> > satisfactory
>>>> > answer for me in "my management of my diabetes". Personally if I
>>>> > get an
>>>> > answer at my next appointment, which is 3 months for me, old
>>>> > information
>>>> > would be out of date and would have lost time in my books and life
>>>> > to
>>>> > work
>>>> > on my management of my diabetes. For our A1C as an example, if my
>>>> > number
>>>> > was
>>>> > increasing I could review what I might be doing or may have caused
>>>> > it
>>>> > to
>>>> > climb. I have had periods of very stressful times at work cause my
>>>> > A1C
>>>> > to
>>>> > climb from 5.9 to 6.4. This would be understandable with the "fight
>>>> > or
>>>> > flight" of the body kicking up adrenalin and the release of stored
>>>> > glycogen
>>>> > to the glucose level.
>>>> > I have had my number climb in the cold weather as I find this time
>>>> > difficult
>>>> > to get enough blood to test myself. I have found the "Prodigy
>>>> > Voice" to
>>>> > be
>>>> > a
>>>> > little easier with it needing less blood and hopefully with it not
>>>> > as
>>>> > frustrating I will not let my number of tests drop in how often I
>>>> > do
>>>> > them.
>>>> > If I have let my sugar stay higher without testing I see the A1C
>>>> > higher
>>>> > and
>>>> > can predict even before receiving the results. As I have been on
>>>> > the
>>>> > insulin
>>>> > pump since September 1999, the more you test the better and easier
>>>> > the
>>>> > A1C
>>>> > and current BGL CONTROLS ARE NOTICED. Fortunately I'm stubborn
>>>> > enough
>>>> > not
>>>> > to
>>>> > give up testing and have gone through multiples of strips to be
>>>> > certain
>>>> > of
>>>> > the accuracy of my current BGL.
>>>> >
>>>> > Vince
>>>> >
>>>> > PS. I summarized a number of your responses into this one mailing.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:14 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > If my doctor ever called me I would fall over.
>>>> > but to have the nurses say this kind of thing is a different
>>>> > matter.
>>>> > Trust me I will keep calling.
>>>> > I don't know if I should ask for the group to get more training on
>>>> > behalf
>>>> > of
>>>> > the disabled?
>>>> > Should I ask the Federation to step in?
>>>> > This isn't the first time the building of folks has stepped out of
>>>> > line.
>>>> > My husband doesn't have this problem, because he would rather
>>>> > ignore
>>>> > matters
>>>> > and just wait for the doctor to report.
>>>> > I get excited and want to know.
>>>> > I want time if I have questions to think about what I wish to ask.
>>>> > So learning first helps.
>>>> > At the same time doesn't.
>>>> > Hope that makes since.
>>>> >
>>>> > -comDar
>>>> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> > Every saint has a past
>>>> > every sinner has a future
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> > From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >ar Ok..  God knows I understand!  :were  Until I moved to
>>>> >Indiana I'd
>>>> >ar never hear from the Doctors, or Nurses unless there was something
>>>> >bad
>>>> >to
>>>> >ar report.  You keep going on your own persistence!  It doesn't
>>>> >matter
>>>> >what
>>>> >ar the numbers show.  You deserve to both understand, and come to
>>>> >terms
>>>> >with
>>>> >ar them before you hang up the damn phone.  Take care of y..
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar Kijuana
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar -- 
>>>> >ar From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >ar Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:39 PM
>>>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar
>>>> >>> The nurse shared that calling me was a unnecessary call.
>>>> >>> Because they could tell me the results when I see the doctor.
>>>> >>> I shared, that until they give me the information in a format I
>>>> >>> can
>>>> >>> read
>>>> >>> myself,
>>>> >>> I was going to keep calling.
>>>> >>> And it was necessary for them to call me back.
>>>> >>> I wasn't going to wait for an appointment.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -comDar
>>>> >>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> >>> Every saint has a past
>>>> >>> every sinner has a future
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> >>> From: "Knowledge C" <kcc86 at hotmail.com>
>>>> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:15 PM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Hi, Dar, and everyone.  Dar, what question did you ask that your
>>>> >>>> nurse
>>>> >>>> wasn't cooperative on?  Congrads on your A1C.  :were  That's
>>>> >>>> very
>>>> >>>> hopeful
>>>> >>>> for you.  I hope you continue to have great readings.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Kijuana
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> >>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>>> >>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:55 PM
>>>> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A question
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Now I was polite,
>>>> >>>>> I was told by the nurse the reason why they don't call me, is
>>>> >>>>> because
>>>> >>>>> it is considered a unnecessary call.
>>>> >>>>> They can tell me all about it when I go to the appointment.
>>>> >>>>> I shared no,
>>>> >>>>> this wasn't unnecessary, unless a format is sent to me for me
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> read,
>>>> >>>>> I will keep calling.
>>>> >>>>> How would you have handled the matter.
>>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> -comDar
>>>> >>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> >>>>> Every saint has a past
>>>> >>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>> >>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>>> >>>>> info
>>>> >>>>> for
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>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>> >>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>>> >>>> info
>>>> >>>> for
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>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>> for
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>>>> >>>
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar
>>>> >ar _______________________________________________
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>>>> >ar Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>>>> >ar To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> >for
>>>> >ar Diabetes-talk:
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>>>> >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>>> >ar
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> > for
>>>> > Diabetes-talk:
>>>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40qwest.net
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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>
>
> End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 6
> ******************************************** 




From trockwell at advanceddiabeticsolutions.net  Mon Dec  8 19:07:26 2008
From: trockwell at advanceddiabeticsolutions.net (Tina)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 14:07:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice - Advanced Diabetic Solutions
Message-ID: <001701c95968$35a7ccb0$a0f76610$@net>

 

Hello All,

 

We just wanted to introduce ourselves and let you know about our services. 

Advanced Diabetic Solutions is based out of Atlanta, Georgia and was started
by a Nurse Practitioner. Most of the patients he saw were diabetic and
unfortunately most of them suffered from some form of diabetic retinopathy.

 

When Diagnostic Devices Inc. announced they were manufacturing a meter
designed to improve independence for patients with visual impairment, the
owner saw a great opportunity to help a specific population meet an un-met
medical need. 

 

Fifteen Thousand patients later Advanced Diabetic Solutions continues to
improve their partnerships with the Centers for the Visually Impaired and
the NFB around the country. Let us describe how we are different and how our
services can benefit patients. 

 

Our company only supplies glucometers with audible outputs and we provide
patients with single-use lancets designed for low-vision patients. Our
mission is to ensure that every patient with diabetes is testing regularly
regardless of any obstacles that might be in their way. We know when our
patients are testing regularly we reduce the risk of complications which
ultimately reduces the risk hospitalizations. 

 

We are actively involved with the NJ chapter of the NFB. We recently had the
honor of conducting a workshop with their local members and helped many of
them reduce their out-of-pocket expense and make testing easier.

 

If you are interested in learning more about our company and our services
please do not hesitate and call us toll free 1-888-377-6382 or email us at
VOICE at advanceddiabeticsolutions.net. Please ask for Tina Rockwell at
extension 13. 

 

We look forward to servicing this very important patient population. 

 

 

 

Tina Rockwell

Director of Patient Services

Advanced Diabetic Solutions

1-888-377-6382 Ext. 13

 



From ebryant at socket.net  Mon Dec  8 20:34:10 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:34:10 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice - Advanced Diabetic Solutions
References: <001701c95968$35a7ccb0$a0f76610$@net>
Message-ID: <002a01c941e1$5527f9a0$1100a8c0@Satellite>

Hi Folks,
    The following message is from Advanced Diabetic Solutions in Atlanta, 
GA.
    You may remember Vince Chaney is president of the newly formed Diabetic 
Division in New Jersey.  Vince set up a seminar that was held at the NFB of 
New Jersey State Convention Nov. 7, 8, and 9.   Vince was impressed with 
Advanced Diabetic Solutions, saying that they participated in a one and one 
half hour workshop, and provided much information about the Prodigy Voice, 
test strips, etc.  Everyone was enlightened by the presentation.
    Note: We are always looking for people and companies who are helpful 
with our diabetic needs and are willing to help the NFB.

Regards,
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina" <trockwell at advanceddiabeticsolutions.net>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice - Advanced Diabetic Solutions


>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> We just wanted to introduce ourselves and let you know about our services.
>
> Advanced Diabetic Solutions is based out of Atlanta, Georgia and was 
> started
> by a Nurse Practitioner. Most of the patients he saw were diabetic and
> unfortunately most of them suffered from some form of diabetic 
> retinopathy.
>
>
>
> When Diagnostic Devices Inc. announced they were manufacturing a meter
> designed to improve independence for patients with visual impairment, the
> owner saw a great opportunity to help a specific population meet an un-met
> medical need.
>
>
>
> Fifteen Thousand patients later Advanced Diabetic Solutions continues to
> improve their partnerships with the Centers for the Visually Impaired and
> the NFB around the country. Let us describe how we are different and how 
> our
> services can benefit patients.
>
>
>
> Our company only supplies glucometers with audible outputs and we provide
> patients with single-use lancets designed for low-vision patients. Our
> mission is to ensure that every patient with diabetes is testing regularly
> regardless of any obstacles that might be in their way. We know when our
> patients are testing regularly we reduce the risk of complications which
> ultimately reduces the risk hospitalizations.
>
>
>
> We are actively involved with the NJ chapter of the NFB. We recently had 
> the
> honor of conducting a workshop with their local members and helped many of
> them reduce their out-of-pocket expense and make testing easier.
>
>
>
> If you are interested in learning more about our company and our services
> please do not hesitate and call us toll free 1-888-377-6382 or email us at
> VOICE at advanceddiabeticsolutions.net. Please ask for Tina Rockwell at
> extension 13.
>
>
>
> We look forward to servicing this very important patient population.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tina Rockwell
>
> Director of Patient Services
>
> Advanced Diabetic Solutions
>
> 1-888-377-6382 Ext. 13
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/ebryant%40socket.net
>
>
>
> 




From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 10 22:55:57 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:57 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0@phx.gbl>

HI all anyone here from Diane Filipe, been e-mailing her and no response I 
hope she is well.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN 




From bandbjacobs at verizon.net  Fri Dec 12 01:33:53 2008
From: bandbjacobs at verizon.net (The Jacobs' Family)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:53 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has Anyone Heard From Diane Filipe?
References: <mailman.38.1229018404.13196.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <002601c95bf9$b1bda570$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>

As a matter of fact, Cheryl, I have not.  But I'm simply assuming that if 
she's still in school, she's probably absorbed in finals, big-time!!!  On 
the other hand, I've been proven wrong before.  Let me see if in the next 
couple of days I might have her home number and might be able to see if she 
responds by phone.  Now that you mention it though, I haven't seen her on 
Diabetes Talk here in a long time either.  Sure hope she's okay.  I'll do 
what I can to check.  Huh?

Bern
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 9


> Send Diabetes-talk mailing list submissions to
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> diabetes-talk-owner at nfbnet.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Diabetes-talk digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe (cheryl echevarria)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:57 -0500
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe
> To: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> HI all anyone here from Diane Filipe, been e-mailing her and no response I
> hope she is well.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>
>
> End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 9
> ******************************************** 




From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 12 10:28:02 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:28:02 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has Anyone Heard From Diane Filipe?
In-Reply-To: <002601c95bf9$b1bda570$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>
References: <mailman.38.1229018404.13196.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<002601c95bf9$b1bda570$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>
Message-ID: <BAY131-W56E5F6C85C6C7F6E4B6126A1F90@phx.gbl>


thank you.Cheryl Echevarria Treasurer National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN> From: bandbjacobs at verizon.net> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:53 -0500> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Has Anyone Heard From Diane Filipe?> > As a matter of fact, Cheryl, I have not. But I'm simply assuming that if > she's still in school, she's probably absorbed in finals, big-time!!! On > the other hand, I've been proven wrong before. Let me see if in the next > couple of days I might have her home number and might be able to see if she > responds by phone. Now that you mention it though, I haven't seen her on > Diabetes Talk here in a long time either. Sure hope she's okay. I'll do > what I can to check. Huh?> > Bern> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:00 PM> Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 9> > > > Send Diabetes-talk mailing list submissions to> > diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> > diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org> >> > You can reach the person managing the list at> > diabetes-talk-owner at nfbnet.org> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> > than "Re: Contents of Diabetes-talk digest..."> >> >> > Today's Topics:> >> > 1. Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe (cheryl echevarria)> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Message: 1> > Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:55:57 -0500> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe> > To: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> > Message-ID: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0 at phx.gbl>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> >> > HI all anyone here from Diane Filipe, been e-mailing her and no response I> > hope she is well.> >> > Cheryl Echevarria> > Treasurer> > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter> > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------> >> > _______________________________________________> > Diabetes-talk mailing list> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org> >> >> > End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 9> > ******************************************** > > > _______________________________________________> Diabetes-talk mailing list> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Diabetes-talk:> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com

From ebryant at socket.net  Fri Dec 12 15:27:10 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:27:10 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe
References: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <090071E44A464796AE27AC9B7D488B75@Satellite>

Hi Cheryl,
    Diane was fine a few days ago, but I will check.

Regards,
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe


> HI all anyone here from Diane Filipe, been e-mailing her and no response I 
> hope she is well.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/ebryant%40socket.net
>
>
>
> 




From ebryant at socket.net  Fri Dec 12 15:37:21 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:37:21 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe
References: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A51543A0735F4D929A5A851CFC0162A5@Satellite>

Hi Cheryl,
    I talked to Diane Filipe about ten minutes ago, and she is doing fine. 
Today she is taking her college finals, which is a hectic time.

Regards,
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe


> HI all anyone here from Diane Filipe, been e-mailing her and no response I 
> hope she is well.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/ebryant%40socket.net
>
>
>
> 




From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 12 23:31:49 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:31:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0@phx.gbl>
	<A51543A0735F4D929A5A851CFC0162A5@Satellite>
References: <BAY131-DS60BE2D928A2A9C4A05C8CA1FB0@phx.gbl>
	<A51543A0735F4D929A5A851CFC0162A5@Satellite>
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS2807256FB88D58C0CC221A1F90@phx.gbl>

thank you, we had been in touch after the convention for awhile and then 
nothing, that is why I was worried, thank you.

Just tell her hi for me when you talk again.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe


> Hi Cheryl,
>     I talked to Diane Filipe about ten minutes ago, and she is doing fine.
> Today she is taking her college finals, which is a hectic time.
>
> Regards,
> Ed Bryant
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:55 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Has anyone heard from Diane Filipe
>
>
> > HI all anyone here from Diane Filipe, been e-mailing her and no response 
> > I
> > hope she is well.
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > Treasurer
> > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > Diabetes-talk:
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/ebryant%40socket.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
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> 



From dmgina at qwest.net  Tue Dec 16 20:13:02 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:13:02 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills
Message-ID: <FD40E7D4241841B49BF8EDBBCF234EA4@DG28KX51>

Hi there,
Since I was doing so well with my a one c, I was told to stop one of the 
pills.\
I just got a call, because my question was I wanted to stop the humalog.
she said no I couldn't do that.
they are hoping after the holidays things will go back to normal.
I am not getting out to walk with the temps minus zero and below.
So the pill I stopped with the doctor's help caused my sugars to go to 190 
and 198.\
So I went back to the pill as the doctor suggested. .
I asked if I could stop this other pill I do twice a day.
I don't feel low or anything like that,
I just feel good.
Oh well.
I don't think doctors know what they are talking about, most of the time, 
that they are guessing.
Just my thoughts.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future




From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Wed Dec 17 16:12:31 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:12:31 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills
In-Reply-To: <FD40E7D4241841B49BF8EDBBCF234EA4@DG28KX51>
References: <FD40E7D4241841B49BF8EDBBCF234EA4@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <F5E21C5D6FE34B0C9728B8533DCB5BB7@DianePC>

Dar, is your Humalog the injection?
Di
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills


> Hi there,
> Since I was doing so well with my a one c, I was told to stop one of the 
> pills.\
> I just got a call, because my question was I wanted to stop the humalog.
> she said no I couldn't do that.
> they are hoping after the holidays things will go back to normal.
> I am not getting out to walk with the temps minus zero and below.
> So the pill I stopped with the doctor's help caused my sugars to go to 190 
> and 198.\
> So I went back to the pill as the doctor suggested. .
> I asked if I could stop this other pill I do twice a day.
> I don't feel low or anything like that,
> I just feel good.
> Oh well.
> I don't think doctors know what they are talking about, most of the time, 
> that they are guessing.
> Just my thoughts.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dianefilipe%40peoplepc.com
> 




From ebryant at socket.net  Wed Dec 17 17:20:33 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:20:33 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipe
Message-ID: <00BBDF4A0219439EA2DB43385A6EF961@Satellite>

Hi Folks
    My wife, Gail, sent me the attached recipe.  It sounds good.

Regards,
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gail Bryant" <gbryant at socket.net>
To: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: Recipe


> This one from the recipe list has exchanges.  Not endorsing just sending.
> 
> Gail Bryant
> Columbia Braille Teaching Services L.L.C.
> 1212 London Drive
> Columbia, MO 65203-2012
> Phone: 573 817-5993
> Cell: 573 268-4962
> 
> Provides quality braille and software instructional services to blind 
> children/adults
> gbryant at socket.net
>
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Wed Dec 17 23:11:22 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:11:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills
References: <FD40E7D4241841B49BF8EDBBCF234EA4@DG28KX51>
	<F5E21C5D6FE34B0C9728B8533DCB5BB7@DianePC>
Message-ID: <C1813BB857C0476A8870B179648BB5AD@DG28KX51>

Yes this is before a meal.
Each.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills


> Dar, is your Humalog the injection?
> Di
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:13 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills
>
>
>> Hi there,
>> Since I was doing so well with my a one c, I was told to stop one of the 
>> pills.\
>> I just got a call, because my question was I wanted to stop the humalog.
>> she said no I couldn't do that.
>> they are hoping after the holidays things will go back to normal.
>> I am not getting out to walk with the temps minus zero and below.
>> So the pill I stopped with the doctor's help caused my sugars to go to 
>> 190 and 198.\
>> So I went back to the pill as the doctor suggested. .
>> I asked if I could stop this other pill I do twice a day.
>> I don't feel low or anything like that,
>> I just feel good.
>> Oh well.
>> I don't think doctors know what they are talking about, most of the time, 
>> that they are guessing.
>> Just my thoughts.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Fri Dec 19 04:29:42 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:29:42 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetic machines
Message-ID: <E12E12FAF512436BBFFD4903767C469D@DG28KX51>

Hi folks,
On the Serotek side,
I have started a diabetic list.
I am wondering where I can go to talk about the different machines out here 
for us in the states, that folks can try.
I share about the machine I am using, and where I got the information.
a paw cast is being asked to be put together on behalf of diabetics.
I would like to get as much information as possible to have the conversation 
flowing, and people would receive lots of information.
Of course the Diabetic news letter is mentioned,
but I would like to have something on hand, to look at while I am having 
questions asked.
I hope this is making since.
thanks for any help you can give me.
The more information I can share the more folks will come back for 
information.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future




From catdancing at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 19 17:31:32 2008
From: catdancing at sbcglobal.net (catdancing)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:31:32 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills
References: <FD40E7D4241841B49BF8EDBBCF234EA4@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <003101c961ff$a3c96790$0202a8c0@VALUED664B84C7>

Dar
 i agree completely the doctors DON'T know they are just guessing. and 
getting paid for it.....
Debbie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:13 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] playing with pills


> Hi there,
> Since I was doing so well with my a one c, I was told to stop one of the 
> pills.\
> I just got a call, because my question was I wanted to stop the humalog.
> she said no I couldn't do that.
> they are hoping after the holidays things will go back to normal.
> I am not getting out to walk with the temps minus zero and below.
> So the pill I stopped with the doctor's help caused my sugars to go to 190 
> and 198.\
> So I went back to the pill as the doctor suggested. .
> I asked if I could stop this other pill I do twice a day.
> I don't feel low or anything like that,
> I just feel good.
> Oh well.
> I don't think doctors know what they are talking about, most of the time, 
> that they are guessing.
> Just my thoughts.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From jon at northcoastmed.com  Fri Dec 19 19:59:54 2008
From: jon at northcoastmed.com (Jon Carey)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:59:54 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipe
References: <00BBDF4A0219439EA2DB43385A6EF961@Satellite>
Message-ID: <782795F31839C04C98CB72E583264C61549F49@admailsvr.northcoastmed.local>

Ed,

 

Sounds pretty yummy!

 

Do you know of any other great recipes for people with diabetes? 

 

 

 

Best Regards, 

 

 

 

Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 120

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>  

www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>
Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866

www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>    A Community for
People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!

Diabetic Supplies <http://www.northcoastmed.com/> 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ed Bryant
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Diabetes Talk
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipe

 

Hi Folks

    My wife, Gail, sent me the attached recipe.  It sounds good.

 

Regards,

Ed Bryant

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Gail Bryant" <gbryant at socket.net>

To: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:04 PM

Subject: Recipe

 

 

> This one from the recipe list has exchanges.  Not endorsing just
sending.

> 

> Gail Bryant

> Columbia Braille Teaching Services L.L.C.

> 1212 London Drive

> Columbia, MO 65203-2012

> Phone: 573 817-5993

> Cell: 573 268-4962

> 

> Provides quality braille and software instructional services to blind 

> children/adults

> gbryant at socket.net

> 



From ebryant at socket.net  Fri Dec 19 22:00:59 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:00:59 -0000
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipe
References: <00BBDF4A0219439EA2DB43385A6EF961@Satellite>
	<782795F31839C04C98CB72E583264C61549F49@admailsvr.northcoastmed.local>
Message-ID: <2822C2AA7200411898B540199FC9C92D@Satellite>

Jon,
    I know of quite a few recipes for diabetics, but won't send them now 
because I am in the process of changing computers and will be out of service 
for a bit.  I will plan on sending you some recipes after Christmas.
    Incidentally, you can find recipes from the Voice on the VOD website, 
voiceofthediabetic.org beginning with the oldest issue displayed.

Regards,
Ed Bryant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Carey" <jon at northcoastmed.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recipe


> Ed,
>
>
>
> Sounds pretty yummy!
>
>
>
> Do you know of any other great recipes for people with diabetes?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan Carey
>
> Marketing Director
>
> Advanced Diabetes Supply
>
> 1-800-730-9887 x 120
>
> 1-800-503-6280 Fax
>
> www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>
>
> www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>
> Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866
>
> www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>    A Community for
> People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!
>
> Diabetic Supplies <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.  If you have received this message in error please notify the
> system manager. This message contains confidential information and is
> intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named
> addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this message.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ed Bryant
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:21 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipe
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
>
>    My wife, Gail, sent me the attached recipe.  It sounds good.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Bryant
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: "Gail Bryant" <gbryant at socket.net>
>
> To: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:04 PM
>
> Subject: Recipe
>
>
>
>
>
>> This one from the recipe list has exchanges.  Not endorsing just
> sending.
>
>>
>
>> Gail Bryant
>
>> Columbia Braille Teaching Services L.L.C.
>
>> 1212 London Drive
>
>> Columbia, MO 65203-2012
>
>> Phone: 573 817-5993
>
>> Cell: 573 268-4962
>
>>
>
>> Provides quality braille and software instructional services to blind
>
>> children/adults
>
>> gbryant at socket.net
>
>>
>
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>
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> 




From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 21 14:29:46 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:29:46 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Happy Chanukkah to my friend and family
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS2C496D6DC1ABB3F2D889DA1EE0@phx.gbl>

To my friends who are Jewish or not.

Have a warm and blessed holiday season.

may the hanukkah oil burn in your homes for eight night and let the miracle 
stay with you throughout the years.

Love and god bless

The Echevarria Family

Cheryl, Nelson, Dina and the Best Guide Dog in the World Maxx

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN 




From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Sun Dec 21 15:39:24 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:39:24 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Happy Chanukkah to my friend and family
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DS2C496D6DC1ABB3F2D889DA1EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY131-DS2C496D6DC1ABB3F2D889DA1EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <68142B3E076847A8AE2C1A90731AE379@DianePC>

Right back at you my friend!
Di
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "anita bornstein" <Neitz00 at aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Happy Chanukkah to my friend and family


> To my friends who are Jewish or not.
>
> Have a warm and blessed holiday season.
>
> may the hanukkah oil burn in your homes for eight night and let the 
> miracle stay with you throughout the years.
>
> Love and god bless
>
> The Echevarria Family
>
> Cheryl, Nelson, Dina and the Best Guide Dog in the World Maxx
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Mon Dec 22 03:54:56 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:54:56 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
Message-ID: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>

Hi folks, how does this work?
Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
run way.
the fire started in the cabin.
My question is this,
if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the replacement 
of them all.
Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
Just thought I would ask.
Thirty five persons got hurt.
Thanks,
I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
Since I keep my machine in it.
But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future




From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Mon Dec 22 16:09:20 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:09:20 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
In-Reply-To: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <60F31C4BB540442AB1860AEE52072213@DianePC>

wow!
good question Dar!
I live about 2 hours north of Denver so this hit too close to home.
You know of course that the most important thing to get off the plane is 
yourself.  EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING can be replaced except you!
I do not know who pays for all of the losses, but there is no way we could 
ever replace you!
Di
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> Hi folks, how does this work?
> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
> run way.
> the fire started in the cabin.
> My question is this,
> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
> replacement of them all.
> Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
> Just thought I would ask.
> Thirty five persons got hurt.
> Thanks,
> I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
> Since I keep my machine in it.
> But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
> I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
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> 




From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Mon Dec 22 16:22:56 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:22:56 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
In-Reply-To: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <EA434D82B1194E88946CDC868CE96566@DianePC>

I think the airline pays all compensation.
Di
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> Hi folks, how does this work?
> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
> run way.
> the fire started in the cabin.
> My question is this,
> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
> replacement of them all.
> Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
> Just thought I would ask.
> Thirty five persons got hurt.
> Thanks,
> I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
> Since I keep my machine in it.
> But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
> I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Diabetes-talk:
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> 




From ebryant at socket.net  Mon Dec 22 21:46:46 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:46:46 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipes
Message-ID: <000301c9647e$c99fcdc0$5cdf6940$@net>

Hi Jon,

                Attached are a few more recipes I promised to send you.

 

Regards,

Ed Bryant

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From ebryant at socket.net  Mon Dec 22 21:49:17 2008
From: ebryant at socket.net (Ed Bryant)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:49:17 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Recipes
Message-ID: <000901c9647f$235b73f0$6a125bd0$@net>

Hi Jon,

                Attached are a few more recipes I promised to send you.

 

Regards,

Ed Bryant

 

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From clevelandann at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 23 02:20:07 2008
From: clevelandann at sbcglobal.net (Ann Williams)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:20:07 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
In-Reply-To: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <49504AD7.2030508@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Dar,

You asked:

Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
run way.
the fire started in the cabin.
My question is this,
if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the replacement 
of them all.

I don't know if the airline would cover you, or if travel insurance would replace items lost in a crash.  However, if you have either renter's or home owner's insurance for the place in which you live, you can include coverage to replace items from your house that are lost or stolen.  

Through my home owner's insurance, I once was able to replace a ring that was stolen while I was traveling. 

I am no expert on it, so you should speak to an insurance agent.  I can tell you that renter's insurance is usually very inexpensive. 



From dmgina at qwest.net  Tue Dec 23 03:05:22 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:05:22 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
	<49504AD7.2030508@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8753FF886EF8485FAD209B4F49726D6D@DG28KX51>

Really,
I could use my home owners insurance to get items back
Thanks I didn't know this at all.
Sure appreciate it.
Now you have to show some how you had this item correct?
Just thought I would ask.
Example computer, or any voice sense things like this?
I also like the idea I could get another machine to read my sugars.
I didn't know how this would work.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Williams" <clevelandann at sbcglobal.net>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> Hi Dar,
>
> You asked:
>
> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
> run way.
> the fire started in the cabin.
> My question is this,
> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
> replacement of them all.
>
> I don't know if the airline would cover you, or if travel insurance would 
> replace items lost in a crash.  However, if you have either renter's or 
> home owner's insurance for the place in which you live, you can include 
> coverage to replace items from your house that are lost or stolen.
> Through my home owner's insurance, I once was able to replace a ring that 
> was stolen while I was traveling.
> I am no expert on it, so you should speak to an insurance agent.  I can 
> tell you that renter's insurance is usually very inexpensive.
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Tue Dec 23 03:06:35 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:06:35 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51>
	<60F31C4BB540442AB1860AEE52072213@DianePC>
Message-ID: <5C94F290013E47FFA186AFDD840EFEEB@DG28KX51>

Gee that was kind.
I didn't think I matter much to folks on the list except for someone 
writing.
Yes, I used to live in Denver myself.
So I understand, when I heard this, I was shaken.
I never heard any more, so I hope all is well.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> wow!
> good question Dar!
> I live about 2 hours north of Denver so this hit too close to home.
> You know of course that the most important thing to get off the plane is 
> yourself.  EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING can be replaced except you!
> I do not know who pays for all of the losses, but there is no way we could 
> ever replace you!
> Di
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:54 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>
>
>> Hi folks, how does this work?
>> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
>> run way.
>> the fire started in the cabin.
>> My question is this,
>> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
>> replacement of them all.
>> Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
>> Just thought I would ask.
>> Thirty five persons got hurt.
>> Thanks,
>> I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
>> Since I keep my machine in it.
>> But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
>> I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Tue Dec 23 14:56:15 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:56:15 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
In-Reply-To: <5C94F290013E47FFA186AFDD840EFEEB@DG28KX51>
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51><60F31C4BB540442AB1860AEE52072213@DianePC>
	<5C94F290013E47FFA186AFDD840EFEEB@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <0EC6AA72EA9146F884483B4DD0CEC76A@DianePC>

Oh my gosh Dar..
Of course you matter!
A list is pretty unpersonable, but know we all care about you!!!
I guess no matter what town a plane crashes in, it hits too close to home.
Di
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> Gee that was kind.
> I didn't think I matter much to folks on the list except for someone 
> writing.
> Yes, I used to live in Denver myself.
> So I understand, when I heard this, I was shaken.
> I never heard any more, so I hope all is well.
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>
>
>> wow!
>> good question Dar!
>> I live about 2 hours north of Denver so this hit too close to home.
>> You know of course that the most important thing to get off the plane is 
>> yourself.  EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING can be replaced except you!
>> I do not know who pays for all of the losses, but there is no way we 
>> could ever replace you!
>> Di
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:54 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>>
>>
>>> Hi folks, how does this work?
>>> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off 
>>> the run way.
>>> the fire started in the cabin.
>>> My question is this,
>>> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
>>> replacement of them all.
>>> Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
>>> Just thought I would ask.
>>> Thirty five persons got hurt.
>>> Thanks,
>>> I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
>>> Since I keep my machine in it.
>>> But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
>>> I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.
>>>
>>> --Dar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dianefilipe%40peoplepc.com
>>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>>
>
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From gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 23 16:11:15 2008
From: gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com (Gail The U. S. Male)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:11:15 -0600
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51><60F31C4BB540442AB1860AEE52072213@DianePC>
	<5C94F290013E47FFA186AFDD840EFEEB@DG28KX51>
Message-ID: <0EF63BC6FBBB480391541D76EEFE91C2@SCHROCK>

yes, It hit close for me too. I also used to live in Denver.  Quite a story, but thank God everyone got out, with no fatalities!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> Gee that was kind.
> I didn't think I matter much to folks on the list except for someone 
> writing.
> Yes, I used to live in Denver myself.
> So I understand, when I heard this, I was shaken.
> I never heard any more, so I hope all is well.
> 
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
> 
> 
>> wow!
>> good question Dar!
>> I live about 2 hours north of Denver so this hit too close to home.
>> You know of course that the most important thing to get off the plane is 
>> yourself.  EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING can be replaced except you!
>> I do not know who pays for all of the losses, but there is no way we could 
>> ever replace you!
>> Di
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:54 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>>
>>
>>> Hi folks, how does this work?
>>> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off the 
>>> run way.
>>> the fire started in the cabin.
>>> My question is this,
>>> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
>>> replacement of them all.
>>> Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
>>> Just thought I would ask.
>>> Thirty five persons got hurt.
>>> Thanks,
>>> I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
>>> Since I keep my machine in it.
>>> But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
>>> I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.
>>>
>>> --Dar
>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>> Every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dianefilipe%40peoplepc.com
>>>
>>
>>
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>> 
> 
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From dmgina at qwest.net  Tue Dec 23 22:49:35 2008
From: dmgina at qwest.net (dmgina)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:49:35 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
References: <D71C7AE72C3949269DA6B566C689BD06@DG28KX51><60F31C4BB540442AB1860AEE52072213@DianePC><5C94F290013E47FFA186AFDD840EFEEB@DG28KX51>
	<0EC6AA72EA9146F884483B4DD0CEC76A@DianePC>
Message-ID: <D084DB917A734967B2BE416955F1A6FB@DG28KX51>

Well some lists are happy with numbers.
So I was surprised.
Thanks again.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every saint has a past
every sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering


> Oh my gosh Dar..
> Of course you matter!
> A list is pretty unpersonable, but know we all care about you!!!
> I guess no matter what town a plane crashes in, it hits too close to home.
> Di
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>
>
>> Gee that was kind.
>> I didn't think I matter much to folks on the list except for someone 
>> writing.
>> Yes, I used to live in Denver myself.
>> So I understand, when I heard this, I was shaken.
>> I never heard any more, so I hope all is well.
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>>
>>
>>> wow!
>>> good question Dar!
>>> I live about 2 hours north of Denver so this hit too close to home.
>>> You know of course that the most important thing to get off the plane is 
>>> yourself.  EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING can be replaced except you!
>>> I do not know who pays for all of the losses, but there is no way we 
>>> could ever replace you!
>>> Di
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:54 PM
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I am wondering
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi folks, how does this work?
>>>> Last night on the news a plane in Denver caught fire when it fell off 
>>>> the run way.
>>>> the fire started in the cabin.
>>>> My question is this,
>>>> if we are to leave our items on the plane, then who pays for the 
>>>> replacement of them all.
>>>> Our medicine as well as computers or things like that.
>>>> Just thought I would ask.
>>>> Thirty five persons got hurt.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> I would try to take my purse with me if possible.
>>>> Since I keep my machine in it.
>>>> But the rest would be in the carry on bag.
>>>> I am sure they wouldn't let me get it.
>>>>
>>>> --Dar
>>>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>>>> Every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dianefilipe%40peoplepc.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 24 19:39:49 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:39:49 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] o/t about braille literacy
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS3219C8E8BFD0155875991A1ED0@phx.gbl>

Subject: National Federation of the Blind to Light Up Times Square


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Public Relations Specialist

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, ext. 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org



National Federation of the Blind to Light Up Times Square



NFB Braille Literacy Video Will be Shown at 42nd Street



Baltimore, Maryland (December 23, 2008): The National Federation of the 
Blind, the oldest and largest organization of blind people in the United 
States, will premiere a video promoting Braille Literacy in Times Square in 
New York City beginning today.  The video will appear once an hour for ten 
days, airing on a large screen on 42nd Street between 7th and 8th Avenues.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: 
"We are pleased to show a video of such importance in one of the largest 
venues in the world.  There can be no doubt that the ability to read and 
write Braille competently and efficiently is the key to education, 
employment, and success for the blind.  Despite the undisputed value of 
Braille, only about 10 percent of blind children in the United States are 
currently learning it.  This video will announce the need for equal 
opportunities in education and employment for the entire nation's blind to a 
countless number of people over the next ten days and will work toward our 
ultimate goal of reversing the downward trend in Braille literacy."





###





About the National Federation of the Blind


With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the 
largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the 
United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, 
education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and 
self-confidence.  It is the leading force in the blindness field today and 
the voice of the nation's blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the 
National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and 
training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.  Please 
visit our Web site: www.nfb.org.


Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN 




From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 25 13:01:05 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:01:05 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
In-Reply-To: <436401.45401.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <436401.45401.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS297C7A14092182F22324DA1EA0@phx.gbl>

Sandra:

I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk list.

I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.  

1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out of network benefits.
If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the insurance companies will not pay.

3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.

But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.

Take care.



Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 
  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice


        Hello Cheryl

        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on with the insurance payment.

        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?

        Thanks,

        Sandra Murillo 



From sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 25 18:24:26 2008
From: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com (Sandra Murillo)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:24:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DS297C7A14092182F22324DA1EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <954610.8246.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi Cheryl,
?
Thanks for your quick reply. Indeed, I know you from the diabetes list (I've been a member for only 5 months.) My insurance provider is HMO Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois. To my knowledge, my doctor never sent a letter to the insurance stating that I am blind. Again, I am not sure of this, so I will call HomeCare and my insurance tomorrow to find out the exact reason for the denial. I will be sure to get back with you ASAP.
?
Thanks for your help, and happy holidays!
Sandra



--- On Thu, 12/25/08, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 7:01 AM






Sandra:
?
I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.
?
merry christmas sandra and happy new year.
?
Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk list.
?
I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the claim.? It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.? 
?
1.? Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out of network benefits.
If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.? They should have never processed the order without verifying with your insurance.
?
2.? Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the insurance companies will not pay.
?
3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.
?
But the funny part is they are also losing money.? As I see in when I get denials at my job for customers.? at least 20% more patients in december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.? Without customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.
?
If you get back to me? with some more information as to why they denied the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.? And this isn't over yet you can appeal it.?? So do your homework. call on Friday or monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.
?
Take care.
?
?
?
Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Sandra Murillo 
To: cheryl echevarria 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice






Hello Cheryl
?
Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on with the insurance payment.
?
Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?
?
Thanks,
?
Sandra Murillo



      

From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 25 18:44:23 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:44:23 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS7483E96C8B6B45D506A32A1EA0@phx.gbl>

no not to the insurance company, when you order items such as the prodigy 
voice etc to a company like your Homecare, you need to send proof of 
blindness to them, not to the insurance company, you doctor will not send it 
to the insurance company, what you should do to apply it, is make sure your 
doctor contacts your insurance company and let them know it is a medical 
necessity, second did you ever send to homecare or did they ask you to send 
proof of blindness.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandra Murillo" <sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
To: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice


Hi Cheryl,

Thanks for your quick reply. Indeed, I know you from the diabetes list (I've 
been a member for only 5 months.) My insurance provider is HMO Blue Cross 
Blue Shield of Illinois. To my knowledge, my doctor never sent a letter to 
the insurance stating that I am blind. Again, I am not sure of this, so I 
will call HomeCare and my insurance tomorrow to find out the exact reason 
for the denial. I will be sure to get back with you ASAP.

Thanks for your help, and happy holidays!
Sandra



--- On Thu, 12/25/08, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 7:01 AM






Sandra:

I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know in 
the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk list.

I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the claim. 
It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.

1. Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply 
company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out of 
network benefits.
If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault. They should have never 
processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

2. Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of 
insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a 
doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the 
insurance companies will not pay.

3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims for 
no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there noses in 
these business so that they can control what they are doing.

But the funny part is they are also losing money. As I see in when I get 
denials at my job for customers. at least 20% more patients in december lost 
there insurance and have canceled insurance. Without customers they will 
feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

If you get back to me with some more information as to why they denied the 
claim, I cannot do more please do your homework. And this isn't over yet you 
can appeal it. So do your homework. call on Friday or monday morning to your 
insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you why it was denied 
first and then we can go from there.

Take care.



Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Sandra Murillo
To: cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice






Hello Cheryl

Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am 
wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into regarding 
the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I ordered the 
meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. The company took 
care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. When I called them 
to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me that everything would 
be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 months. When I ran out of 
strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of America to order more. 
During this call I found out that my insurance had not paied my initial 
order, and therefore, they could not send me more supplies. For the past 
month I have called HomeCare several times, but each time they are never 
able to tell me what is going on with the insurance payment.

Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they had 
reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I do, 
because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally blind, 
and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can use 
independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but 
HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. 
Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?

Thanks,

Sandra Murillo 




From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 25 18:47:24 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
In-Reply-To: <954610.8246.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <954610.8246.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS180268162236D634A3929A1EA0@phx.gbl>

BCBS is a very good straight forward insuranc, I work with them all the time.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 
  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 
  Cc: diabetes-talk<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice


        Hi Cheryl,

        Thanks for your quick reply. Indeed, I know you from the diabetes list (I've been a member for only 5 months.) My insurance provider is HMO Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois. To my knowledge, my doctor never sent a letter to the insurance stating that I am blind. Again, I am not sure of this, so I will call HomeCare and my insurance tomorrow to find out the exact reason for the denial. I will be sure to get back with you ASAP.

        Thanks for your help, and happy holidays!
        Sandra



        --- On Thu, 12/25/08, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:

          From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
          Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
          To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
          Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
          Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 7:01 AM


          Sandra:

          I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

          merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

          Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk list.

          I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.  

          1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out of network benefits.
          If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

          2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the insurance companies will not pay.

          3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.

          But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

          If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.

          Take care.



          Cheryl Echevarria
          Treasurer
          National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
          Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 
            To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 
            Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
            Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice


                  Hello Cheryl

                  Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on with the insurance payment.

                  Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?

                  Thanks,

                  Sandra Murillo 

       



From sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 25 22:25:37 2008
From: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com (Sandra Murillo)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:25:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy
	Voice
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DS7483E96C8B6B45D506A32A1EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <429113.74067.qm@web52507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

As for the HMO, I never got news that the doctor notified them of my medical necesity for the prodigy voice. Regarding HomeCare, they never asked me for proof of blindness when I put in my order. Is it possible they might have asked my doctor for this proof, or was it my responsibility to send it to them? I am asking because HomeCare never asked me for such document. Anyway, I'll find out tomorrow (hopefully they're open.) I'll call both HomeCare and BCBS to get things straight.
?
Thanks,
Sandy



--- On Thu, 12/25/08, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 12:44 PM

no not to the insurance company, when you order items such as the prodigy 
voice etc to a company like your Homecare, you need to send proof of 
blindness to them, not to the insurance company, you doctor will not send it 
to the insurance company, what you should do to apply it, is make sure your 
doctor contacts your insurance company and let them know it is a medical 
necessity, second did you ever send to homecare or did they ask you to send 
proof of blindness.

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandra Murillo" <sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
To: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice


Hi Cheryl,

Thanks for your quick reply. Indeed, I know you from the diabetes list
(I've 
been a member for only 5 months.) My insurance provider is HMO Blue Cross 
Blue Shield of Illinois. To my knowledge, my doctor never sent a letter to 
the insurance stating that I am blind. Again, I am not sure of this, so I 
will call HomeCare and my insurance tomorrow to find out the exact reason 
for the denial. I will be sure to get back with you ASAP.

Thanks for your help, and happy holidays!
Sandra



--- On Thu, 12/25/08, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
wrote:

From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 7:01 AM






Sandra:

I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know in 
the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk list.

I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the claim. 
It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.

1. Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply 
company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out of 
network benefits.
If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault. They should have never 
processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

2. Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of 
insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a 
doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the 
insurance companies will not pay.

3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims for 
no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there noses in 
these business so that they can control what they are doing.

But the funny part is they are also losing money. As I see in when I get 
denials at my job for customers. at least 20% more patients in december lost 
there insurance and have canceled insurance. Without customers they will 
feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

If you get back to me with some more information as to why they denied the 
claim, I cannot do more please do your homework. And this isn't over yet
you 
can appeal it. So do your homework. call on Friday or monday morning to your 
insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you why it was denied 
first and then we can go from there.

Take care.



Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Sandra Murillo
To: cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice






Hello Cheryl

Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am 
wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into regarding 
the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I ordered the 
meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. The company took 
care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. When I called them 
to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me that everything would 
be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 months. When I ran out of 
strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of America to order more. 
During this call I found out that my insurance had not paied my initial 
order, and therefore, they could not send me more supplies. For the past 
month I have called HomeCare several times, but each time they are never 
able to tell me what is going on with the insurance payment.

Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they had 
reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I do, 
because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally blind, 
and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can use 
independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but 
HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. 
Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?

Thanks,

Sandra Murillo 




      

From k7uij at panix.com  Fri Dec 26 05:35:48 2008
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:35:48 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
In-Reply-To: <BAY131-DS180268162236D634A3929A1EA0@phx.gbl>
References: <954610.8246.qm@web52509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BAY131-DS180268162236D634A3929A1EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20081226053548.k7uij@panix.com>

I'll agree with Cheryl's statement below re BCBS. When I landed in the hospital in DKA, the only thing I had to pay for was the cost of the ambulance. I never saw another bill. I couldn't believe it!

Mike Freeman


----- Original Message -----
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: <sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 11:09:47
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice

>
>
> BCBS is a very good straight forward insuranc, I work with them all the time.
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 
>   To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 
>   Cc: diabetes-talk<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
> 
> 
>         Hi Cheryl,
> 
>         Thanks for your quick reply. Indeed, I know you from the diabetes list (I've been a member for only 5 months.) My insurance provider is HMO Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois. To my knowledge, my doctor never sent a letter to the insurance stating that I am blind. Again, I am not sure of this, so I will call HomeCare and my insurance tomorrow to find out the exact reason for the denial. I will be sure to get back with you ASAP.
> 
>         Thanks for your help, and happy holidays!
>         Sandra
> 
> 
> 
>         --- On Thu, 12/25/08, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>           From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>           Subject: Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
>           To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
>           Cc: "diabetes-talk" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>           Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 7:01 AM
> 
> 
>           Sandra:
> 
>           I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.
> 
>           merry christmas sandra and happy new year.
> 
>           Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk list.
> 
>           I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.  
> 
>           1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out of network benefits.
>           If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never processed the order without verifying with your insurance.
> 
>           2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the insurance companies will not pay.
> 
>           3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.
> 
>           But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.
> 
>           If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.
> 
>           Take care.
> 
> 
> 
>           Cheryl Echevarria
>           Treasurer
>           National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
>           Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>             ----- Original Message ----- 
>             From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 
>             To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 
>             Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
>             Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
> 
> 
>                   Hello Cheryl
> 
>                   Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on with the insurance payment.
> 
>                   Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?
> 
>                   Thanks,
> 
>                   Sandra Murillo 
> 
>        
> 
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From jon at northcoastmed.com  Fri Dec 26 16:43:14 2008
From: jon at northcoastmed.com (Jon Carey)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:43:14 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
References: <436401.45401.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BAY131-DS297C7A14092182F22324DA1EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <782795F31839C04C98CB72E583264C6154A8A4@admailsvr.northcoastmed.local>

Cheryl is correct about the letter of legal blindness. We use a
prewritten letter that the Physician must print on their letterhead and
fax back to us after filling it out and signing it. We have not have any
problems billing Insurance companies for Prodigy products, besides the
fact that the Supplier (HomeCare Supply) in this case, should have
verified insurance coverage and discussed with you before sending
supplies!

 

Best Regards, 

 

 

 

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Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 120

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-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:01 AM
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: diabetes-talk
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy
Voice

 

Sandra:

 

I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know
in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

 

merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

 

Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk
list.

 

I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the
claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.  

 

1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply
company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out
of network benefits.

If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never
processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

 

2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot
of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have
a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the
insurance companies will not pay.

 

3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims
for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there
noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.

 

But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I
get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in
december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without
customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

 

If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied
the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't
over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or
monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to
tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.

 

Take care.

 

 

 

Cheryl Echevarria

Treasurer

National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter

Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 

  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 

  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM

  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice

 

 

        Hello Cheryl

 

        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I
am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into
regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I
ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July.
The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper
work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they
told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies
for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare
Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my
insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not
send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several
times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on
with the insurance payment.

 

        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they
had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I
do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally
blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can
use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment,
but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of
coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can
I do?

 

        Thanks,

 

        Sandra Murillo 

 

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From sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 26 17:21:09 2008
From: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com (Sandra Murillo)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:21:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
In-Reply-To: <782795F31839C04C98CB72E583264C6154A8A4@admailsvr.northcoastmed.local>
Message-ID: <880783.67600.qm@web52504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well, I just called BCBS today. Apparently my doctor never notified my insurance of my medical need for the prodigy voice. I then called my doctor and they said they would fax the referral to my insurance. As for HomeCare, I tried calling them but they open til Monday. I'll keep everyone posted.
?
Sandy



--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com> wrote:

From: Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 10:43 AM

Cheryl is correct about the letter of legal blindness. We use a
prewritten letter that the Physician must print on their letterhead and
fax back to us after filling it out and signing it. We have not have any
problems billing Insurance companies for Prodigy products, besides the
fact that the Supplier (HomeCare Supply) in this case, should have
verified insurance coverage and discussed with you before sending
supplies!

 

Best Regards, 

 

 

 

Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 120

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>  

www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>
Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866

www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>   A Community for
People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!

Diabetic Supplies

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:01 AM
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: diabetes-talk
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy
Voice

 

Sandra:

 

I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know
in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

 

merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

 

Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk
list.

 

I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the
claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.  

 

1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply
company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out
of network benefits.

If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never
processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

 

2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot
of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have
a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the
insurance companies will not pay.

 

3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims
for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there
noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.

 

But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I
get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in
december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without
customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

 

If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied
the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't
over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or
monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to
tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.

 

Take care.

 

 

 

Cheryl Echevarria

Treasurer

National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter

Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 

  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 

  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM

  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice

 

 

        Hello Cheryl

 

        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I
am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into
regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I
ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July.
The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper
work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they
told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies
for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare
Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my
insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not
send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several
times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on
with the insurance payment.

 

        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they
had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I
do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally
blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can
use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment,
but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of
coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can
I do?

 

        Thanks,

 

        Sandra Murillo 

 

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From jon at northcoastmed.com  Fri Dec 26 18:04:35 2008
From: jon at northcoastmed.com (Jon Carey)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:04:35 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
References: <880783.67600.qm@web52504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <782795F31839C04C98CB72E583264C6154A901@admailsvr.northcoastmed.local>

It's up to your Medical Supplier to notify your Insurance company
because they are billing them, not your physician.

 

 

 

Best Regards, 

 

 

 

Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 120

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>  

www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>
Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866

www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>    A Community for
People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!

Diabetic Supplies

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Murillo
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy
Voice

 

Well, I just called BCBS today. Apparently my doctor never notified my
insurance of my medical need for the prodigy voice. I then called my
doctor and they said they would fax the referral to my insurance. As for
HomeCare, I tried calling them but they open til Monday. I'll keep
everyone posted.

 

Sandy

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com> wrote:

 

From: Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com>

Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy
Voice

To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 10:43 AM

 

Cheryl is correct about the letter of legal blindness. We use a

prewritten letter that the Physician must print on their letterhead and

fax back to us after filling it out and signing it. We have not have any

problems billing Insurance companies for Prodigy products, besides the

fact that the Supplier (HomeCare Supply) in this case, should have

verified insurance coverage and discussed with you before sending

supplies!

 

 

 

Best Regards, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jonathan Carey

 

Marketing Director

 

Advanced Diabetes Supply

 

1-800-730-9887 x 120

 

1-800-503-6280 Fax

 

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>  

 

www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>

Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866

 

www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>   A Community for

People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!

 

Diabetic Supplies

 

 

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----

From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org

[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:01 AM

To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com

Cc: diabetes-talk

Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy

Voice

 

 

 

Sandra:

 

 

 

I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know

in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.

 

 

 

merry christmas sandra and happy new year.

 

 

 

Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk

list.

 

 

 

I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the

claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.  

 

 

 

1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply

company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out

of network benefits.

 

If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never

processed the order without verifying with your insurance.

 

 

 

2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot

of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have

a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the

insurance companies will not pay.

 

 

 

3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims

for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there

noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.

 

 

 

But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I

get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in

december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without

customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.

 

 

 

If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied

the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't

over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or

monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to

tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.

 

 

 

Take care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheryl Echevarria

 

Treasurer

 

National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter

 

Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

 

  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com> 

 

  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> 

 

  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM

 

  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice

 

 

 

 

 

        Hello Cheryl

 

 

 

        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I

am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into

regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I

ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July.

The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper

work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they

told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies

for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare

Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my

insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not

send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several

times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on

with the insurance payment.

 

 

 

        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they

had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I

do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally

blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can

use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment,

but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of

coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can

I do?

 

 

 

        Thanks,

 

 

 

        Sandra Murillo 

 

 

 

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From vgc732 at optonline.net  Fri Dec 26 21:35:56 2008
From: vgc732 at optonline.net (Vincent Chaney)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
References: <880783.67600.qm@web52504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E88ED0017A7244D7879E293E06F86D01@Vincent>

Sandy,

The real contact with your legal document of blindness, as Jonathan and 
Cheryl have shared, is to have your doctor notify Home Care as your 
supplier. You need to give to your doctor the Home Care company name and 
their Fax number to verify your blindness. If this could help someone, when 
Tina Rockwell from Advanced Diabetic Solutions, as my supplier, let me know 
she was having a problem getting my doctor to send a document/statement of 
my legal blindness to them, I thought to contact my eye doctor and within 10 
minutes his office validated my blindness and the supplies were immediately 
sent by Tina. My Endocrinologist office staff kept resending my script and 
could not understand what was needed and hanging up my original order.

Best of luck to you and to others. The supplier you choose of the "Prodigy 
Voice" and the "Prodigy Voice Test Strips" is who needs to originally be 
notified of our blindness...

Vincent Chaney
President, Diabetes Division of the National Federation of the Blind of New 
Jersey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandra Murillo" <sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice


Well, I just called BCBS today. Apparently my doctor never notified my 
insurance of my medical need for the prodigy voice. I then called my doctor 
and they said they would fax the referral to my insurance. As for HomeCare, 
I tried calling them but they open til Monday. I'll keep everyone posted.

Sandy



--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com> wrote:

From: Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 10:43 AM

Cheryl is correct about the letter of legal blindness. We use a
prewritten letter that the Physician must print on their letterhead and
fax back to us after filling it out and signing it. We have not have any
problems billing Insurance companies for Prodigy products, besides the
fact that the Supplier (HomeCare Supply) in this case, should have
verified insurance coverage and discussed with you before sending
supplies!



Best Regards,







Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 120

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>

www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>
Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866

www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>   A Community for
People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!

Diabetic Supplies





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-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:01 AM
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: diabetes-talk
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy
Voice



Sandra:



I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know
in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.



merry christmas sandra and happy new year.



Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk
list.



I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the
claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.



1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply
company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out
of network benefits.

If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never
processed the order without verifying with your insurance.



2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot
of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have
a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the
insurance companies will not pay.



3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims
for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there
noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.



But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I
get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in
december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without
customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.



If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied
the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't
over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or
monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to
tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.



Take care.







Cheryl Echevarria

Treasurer

National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter

Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>

  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>

  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM

  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice





        Hello Cheryl



        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I
am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into
regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I
ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July.
The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper
work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they
told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies
for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare
Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my
insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not
send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several
times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on
with the insurance payment.



        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they
had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I
do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally
blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can
use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment,
but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of
coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can
I do?



        Thanks,



        Sandra Murillo



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From sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 26 21:43:36 2008
From: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com (Sandra Murillo)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:43:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
In-Reply-To: <E88ED0017A7244D7879E293E06F86D01@Vincent>
Message-ID: <36617.66851.qm@web52508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thanks for everyones advice. It has been very helpful as I am very unfamiliar with insurances! Anyway, I talked to my physician's office, and they will contact HomeCare on Monday to get things straightened out. I thought HomeCare had taken care of this in July, but apparently not!
?
Sandy



--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:

From: Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com, "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Tina Rockwell" <trockwell at advanceddiabeticsolutions.net>
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 3:35 PM

Sandy,

The real contact with your legal document of blindness, as Jonathan and 
Cheryl have shared, is to have your doctor notify Home Care as your 
supplier. You need to give to your doctor the Home Care company name and 
their Fax number to verify your blindness. If this could help someone, when 
Tina Rockwell from Advanced Diabetic Solutions, as my supplier, let me know 
she was having a problem getting my doctor to send a document/statement of 
my legal blindness to them, I thought to contact my eye doctor and within 10 
minutes his office validated my blindness and the supplies were immediately 
sent by Tina. My Endocrinologist office staff kept resending my script and 
could not understand what was needed and hanging up my original order.

Best of luck to you and to others. The supplier you choose of the "Prodigy

Voice" and the "Prodigy Voice Test Strips" is who needs to
originally be 
notified of our blindness...

Vincent Chaney
President, Diabetes Division of the National Federation of the Blind of New 
Jersey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandra Murillo" <sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice


Well, I just called BCBS today. Apparently my doctor never notified my 
insurance of my medical need for the prodigy voice. I then called my doctor 
and they said they would fax the referral to my insurance. As for HomeCare, 
I tried calling them but they open til Monday. I'll keep everyone posted.

Sandy



--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com> wrote:

From: Jon Carey <jon at northcoastmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurance coverage of Prodigy Voice
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 10:43 AM

Cheryl is correct about the letter of legal blindness. We use a
prewritten letter that the Physician must print on their letterhead and
fax back to us after filling it out and signing it. We have not have any
problems billing Insurance companies for Prodigy products, besides the
fact that the Supplier (HomeCare Supply) in this case, should have
verified insurance coverage and discussed with you before sending
supplies!



Best Regards,







Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 120

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>

www.DiabetesHealthSupplies.com <http://www.diabeteshealthsupplies.com/>
Call To Order Diabetic Accessories. 1-866-422-4866

www.GlucosePost.com <http://www.glucosepost.com/>   A Community for
People with Diabetes to Share Stories, Inform, and Support Each Other!

Diabetic Supplies





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From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:01 AM
To: sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com
Cc: diabetes-talk
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy
Voice



Sandra:



I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know
in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.



merry christmas sandra and happy new year.



Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk
list.



I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the
claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.



1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply
company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out
of network benefits.

If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never
processed the order without verifying with your insurance.



2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot
of insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have
a doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the
insurance companies will not pay.



3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims
for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there
noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.



But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I
get denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in
december lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without
customers they will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.



If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied
the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't
over yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or
monday morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to
tell you why it was denied first and then we can go from there.



Take care.







Cheryl Echevarria

Treasurer

National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter

Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>

  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>

  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM

  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice





        Hello Cheryl



        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I
am wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into
regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I
ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July.
The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper
work. When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they
told me that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies
for 3 months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare
Supply of America to order more. During this call I found out that my
insurance had not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not
send me more supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several
times, but each time they are never able to tell me what is going on
with the insurance payment.



        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they
had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I
do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally
blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can
use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment,
but HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of
coverage. Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can
I do?



        Thanks,



        Sandra Murillo



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From bandbjacobs at verizon.net  Sun Dec 28 02:22:32 2008
From: bandbjacobs at verizon.net (The Jacobs' Family)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:22:32 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Insurance Coverage for Prodigy Voice
References: <mailman.19.1230228002.26403.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <001301c96893$23ec9c00$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>

OOOOh Honey!!!  You guys just struck a nerve!!  I've nearly given up on 
these "Insurance" outfits!!  I swear!  They don't cover anything!!  Kind of 
like those "Extended Warrantees" that Sears and every other company tries to 
weasel ya into.  Every time I get a denial from any insurance, no matter 
what or where it is, I fire everything off at local and federal Insurance 
Commissioners: letters for appeal, claims, and the like.  Sometimes I hear 
from them.  Sometimes I don't.  Can't live with 'em and can't live without 
'em.  It's like they know they gotchya under a barrel--behind the 
eight-ball.  And, of course, how many times do ya win an appeal????  Are you 
kidding???  Oh Heavens to Mergatroid!!Cheryl, ya got one on me Honey!!  I 
sure wish I had the answers.

In spite of all that garb, I hope everyone here who celebrates this, has had 
a Merry Christmas!!!  Take care folks!!!

Bern
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 20


> Send Diabetes-talk mailing list submissions to
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> than "Re: Contents of Diabetes-talk digest..."
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>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. o/t about braille literacy (cheryl echevarria)
>   2. Re: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
>      (cheryl echevarria)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:39:49 -0500
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] o/t about braille literacy
> To: "cherylandmaxx" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY131-DS3219C8E8BFD0155875991A1ED0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Subject: National Federation of the Blind to Light Up Times Square
>
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
>
> CONTACT:
>
> Chris Danielsen
>
> Public Relations Specialist
>
> National Federation of the Blind
>
> (410) 659-9314, ext. 2330
>
> (410) 262-1281 (Cell)
>
> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>
>
>
> National Federation of the Blind to Light Up Times Square
>
>
>
> NFB Braille Literacy Video Will be Shown at 42nd Street
>
>
>
> Baltimore, Maryland (December 23, 2008): The National Federation of the
> Blind, the oldest and largest organization of blind people in the United
> States, will premiere a video promoting Braille Literacy in Times Square 
> in
> New York City beginning today.  The video will appear once an hour for ten
> days, airing on a large screen on 42nd Street between 7th and 8th Avenues.
>
>
>
> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
> "We are pleased to show a video of such importance in one of the largest
> venues in the world.  There can be no doubt that the ability to read and
> write Braille competently and efficiently is the key to education,
> employment, and success for the blind.  Despite the undisputed value of
> Braille, only about 10 percent of blind children in the United States are
> currently learning it.  This video will announce the need for equal
> opportunities in education and employment for the entire nation's blind to 
> a
> countless number of people over the next ten days and will work toward our
> ultimate goal of reversing the downward trend in Braille literacy."
>
>
>
>
>
> ###
>
>
>
>
>
> About the National Federation of the Blind
>
>
> With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the
> largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in 
> the
> United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy,
> education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and
> self-confidence.  It is the leading force in the blindness field today and
> the voice of the nation's blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the
> National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research 
> and
> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. 
> Please
> visit our Web site: www.nfb.org.
>
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:01:05 -0500
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy
> Voice
> To: <sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: diabetes-talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY131-DS297C7A14092182F22324DA1EA0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sandra:
>
> I am also posting this on the diabetic talk site so that way people know 
> in the future what to look out for being blind and diabetic supplies.
>
> merry christmas sandra and happy new year.
>
> Can you let me know where you know of me I am guess the diabetic talk 
> list.
>
> I need to know a few things first, what insurance company denied the 
> claim.  It could be for one of a few reasons why they denied it.
>
> 1.  Your insurance company may not have a contract with Homecare supply 
> company you could have gone out of your network and you may not have out 
> of network benefits.
> If this is the case then HomeCare is at fault.  They should have never 
> processed the order without verifying with your insurance.
>
> 2.  Please let me did you try and contact your insurance company, a lot of 
> insurance companies especially with diabetic supplies unless you have a 
> doctor letters stating you are blind accompanying with your order the 
> insurance companies will not pay.
>
> 3. Insurance companies are trained to deny at least 5-10% of all claims 
> for no apparent reason, that is why the government needs to get there 
> noses in these business so that they can control what they are doing.
>
> But the funny part is they are also losing money.  As I see in when I get 
> denials at my job for customers.  at least 20% more patients in december 
> lost there insurance and have canceled insurance.  Without customers they 
> will feel the punch themselves sooner or later.
>
> If you get back to me  with some more information as to why they denied 
> the claim, I cannot do more please do your homework.  And this isn't over 
> yet you can appeal it.   So do your homework. call on Friday or monday 
> morning to your insurance company and to Homecare they need to tell you 
> why it was denied first and then we can go from there.
>
> Take care.
>
>
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Sandra Murillo<mailto:sandramurillo_580 at yahoo.com>
>  To: cheryl echevarria<mailto:cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:01 AM
>  Subject: Help with insurrance coverage of Prodigy Voice
>
>
>        Hello Cheryl
>
>        Sorry for the unfinished message I sent you a few minutes ago. I am 
> wondering if you might be able to assist me with a snag I ran into 
> regarding the coverage of the Prodigy Voice Meter and it's supplies. I 
> ordered the meter and supplies from HomeCare Supply of America in July. 
> The company took care of everything -- including the insurance paper work. 
> When I called them to check if my HMO covered the equipment, they told me 
> that everything would be covered. I got the meter and supplies for 3 
> months. When I ran out of strips and lancets, I called HomeCare Supply of 
> America to order more. During this call I found out that my insurance had 
> not paied my initial order, and therefore, they could not send me more 
> supplies. For the past month I have called HomeCare several times, but 
> each time they are never able to tell me what is going on with the 
> insurance payment.
>
>        Today I received a letter from my insurance telling me that they 
> had reviewed my case, and they would not pay this equipment. What can I 
> do, because I seriously don't understand their decision -- I am totally 
> blind, and as we know, the Prodigy Voice is one of the few meters I can 
> use independently. I would have used Medicaid to cover this equipment, but 
> HomeCare told me they currently don't except it as a form of coverage. 
> Please help me. Do I need to appeal the decision, or what can I do?
>
>        Thanks,
>
>        Sandra Murillo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-talk mailing list
> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>
>
> End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 20
> ********************************************* 




From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Sun Dec 28 18:48:38 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:48:38 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National
Message-ID: <39D4B2E11AC54D369B557276A8AE13E7@DianePC>

It's just a little over 6 months away.
What is it?  Our National Convention!

Last year, I made the DAN pins in the shape of a diamond with DAN written in Braille on the pin.  I am looking for ideas for a pin for 2009.
Happy New Year everyone!
Di

From k7uij at panix.com  Mon Dec 29 01:59:47 2008
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:59:47 -0800
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National
In-Reply-To: <39D4B2E11AC54D369B557276A8AE13E7@DianePC>
References: <39D4B2E11AC54D369B557276A8AE13E7@DianePC>
Message-ID: <20081229015947.k7uij@panix.com>

Diane:

I liked the pin just the way you created it. I see no reason to change the design.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 12:22:07
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National

>
>
> It's just a little over 6 months away.
> What is it?  Our National Convention!
> 
> Last year, I made the DAN pins in the shape of a diamond with DAN written in Braille on the pin.  I am looking for ideas for a pin for 2009.
> Happy New Year everyone!
> Di
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From bandbjacobs at verizon.net  Tue Dec 30 03:00:26 2008
From: bandbjacobs at verizon.net (The Jacobs' Family)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:00:26 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National?
References: <mailman.39.1230573605.22672.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <007601c96a2a$c42cc990$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>

Hi There Friends!!  I concur with Mike Diane.  I thought they were quite 
pretty and I wear mine all the time wherever I go.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 24


> Send Diabetes-talk mailing list submissions to
> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>
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> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> diabetes-talk-owner at nfbnet.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Diabetes-talk digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. National (Diane)
>   2. Re: National (Mike Freeman)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:48:38 -0700
> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <39D4B2E11AC54D369B557276A8AE13E7 at DianePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> It's just a little over 6 months away.
> What is it?  Our National Convention!
>
> Last year, I made the DAN pins in the shape of a diamond with DAN written 
> in Braille on the pin.  I am looking for ideas for a pin for 2009.
> Happy New Year everyone!
> Di
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:59:47 -0800
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] National
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Message-ID: <20081229015947.k7uij at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Diane:
>
> I liked the pin just the way you created it. I see no reason to change the 
> design.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 12:22:07
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National
>
>>
>>
>> It's just a little over 6 months away.
>> What is it?  Our National Convention!
>>
>> Last year, I made the DAN pins in the shape of a diamond with DAN written 
>> in Braille on the pin.  I am looking for ideas for a pin for 2009.
>> Happy New Year everyone!
>> Di
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
> End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 24
> ********************************************* 




From dianefilipe at peoplepc.com  Tue Dec 30 16:09:14 2008
From: dianefilipe at peoplepc.com (Diane)
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:09:14 -0700
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National?
In-Reply-To: <007601c96a2a$c42cc990$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>
References: <mailman.39.1230573605.22672.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<007601c96a2a$c42cc990$0201a8c0@william64nfqcs>
Message-ID: <F589A0C8EBF64FDD8073AB72FF86ACD2@DianePC>

For all of you who do not have your DAN pin, please contact me!   They are 
$4 each, of which $1 goes to DAN!
Thank you!
Diane
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Jacobs' Family" <bandbjacobs at verizon.net>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] National?


> Hi There Friends!!  I concur with Mike Diane.  I thought they were quite 
> pretty and I wear mine all the time wherever I go.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:00 PM
> Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 24
>
>
>> Send Diabetes-talk mailing list submissions to
>> diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> diabetes-talk-owner at nfbnet.org
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Diabetes-talk digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>   1. National (Diane)
>>   2. Re: National (Mike Freeman)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:48:38 -0700
>> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Message-ID: <39D4B2E11AC54D369B557276A8AE13E7 at DianePC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> It's just a little over 6 months away.
>> What is it?  Our National Convention!
>>
>> Last year, I made the DAN pins in the shape of a diamond with DAN written 
>> in Braille on the pin.  I am looking for ideas for a pin for 2009.
>> Happy New Year everyone!
>> Di
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:59:47 -0800
>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] National
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Message-ID: <20081229015947.k7uij at panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> Diane:
>>
>> I liked the pin just the way you created it. I see no reason to change 
>> the design.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 12:22:07
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] National
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's just a little over 6 months away.
>>> What is it?  Our National Convention!
>>>
>>> Last year, I made the DAN pins in the shape of a diamond with DAN 
>>> written in Braille on the pin.  I am looking for ideas for a pin for 
>>> 2009.
>>> Happy New Year everyone!
>>> Di
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> Diabetes-talk:
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
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>>
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>> *********************************************
>
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From cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 31 15:21:09 2008
From: cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com (cheryl echevarria)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:21:09 -0500
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Fw: [nabop] Youth Writing Contest
Message-ID: <BAY131-DS63C7B3317B63525C956C8A1E40@phx.gbl>


Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "by way of David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>" <LoriStay at aol.com>
To: <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: [nabop] Youth Writing Contest


> Do you know a budding writer?   Pass this along!
> Lori Stayer
>
>
>     Youth Writing Contest!
>
>     The NFB Writers' Division is hosting a Youth Writing Contest to
>     promote Braille literacy and excellence in creative writing. Entries
>     will be judged on creativity and quality of Braille. We are looking
>     for creative writing, in the form of fiction and poetry. There is no
>     charge for entering.
>
>     This is a contest for students who use Braille. Entries must Be
>     submitted in hand embossed Braille, either on a slate and stylus or
>     on a Braille writer. No computer Braille entries will be considered.
>     Submissions must be Brailled by the entrant. Elementary students
>     (K-5) may submit contracted Braille, uncontracted Braille, or an
>     acceptable combination of the two. Students in higher grades will be
>     expected to submit stories or poetry in contracted Braille.
>
>     There are six categories, as follows: Elementary Fiction; Elementary
>     Poetry; Middle School Fiction; Middle School Poetry; High School
>     Fiction; High School Poetry. Elementary is K-5. Middle School is 6-8.
>     High School is 9-12.
>
>     The contest begins January first, and ends, postmarked date April
>     first. There will be three cash prizes for each of the six
>     categories. First prize per contest is $25. Second prize is $15 and
>     third prize is $5. Submissions for fiction may not exceed one
>     thousand words. Poetry may not exceed twenty lines. Authors may
>     submit multiple entries and all work must be original and unpublished.
>
>     Each entrant must provide an identical print copy for possible
> publication.
>
>     Entries must be accompanied by a cover sheet containing entrant's
>     information: Name, address, phone, email, title of the entry, school
>     and grade of entrant. Winners will be announced at our division
>     meeting during the July 2009 NFB National convention held in Detroit,
> Michigan.
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>     Send to Fred Wurtzel, 1212 N Foster, Lansing Michigan, 48912.
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