[Blindvet-talk] Question for VITO

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Sat Feb 9 14:27:05 CST 2008


Vito,
Sorry for the error, but thanks for the answer. I hope it helps Frank. 
If not perhaps  Frank can re emphasize what his concern is and  what the 
shortfall is perceived to be.
Dwight
 
 
In a message dated 2/9/2008 9:28:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
vjdesantis at optonline.net writes:

Hi  Folks,

Sorry it has taken a couple of days to respond.  I've been  away for three 
days and I am just now getting to my e-mails.

Just  as a point of clarification, I don't work for the VA.  I am the  
director of a state agency serving the blind and visually impaired in New  
Jersey. But, here is my shot at answering Frank's question.

The  probblem Frank raises is due in good part to the organizational 
structure  of the VA.  Blindness services is within the Veteran Health  
Administration (VHA).  By design, they follow a medical model.   All patient
care, prostheses, the blindness centers and the VIST  coordinators all are 
found under the health side of the VA.  Of  course, many of us need this 
help.  I am not knocking it, but for  achieving independence it is I believe 
contr productive.  Even if is  under a social services department in a VA 
facility, it will still be  organizationally under the health side of the VA.

By contrast, the VA's  benefit side of the house (VBA) may be of some help. 
For veterans who have  some service connection disability,(I believe a 10 
percent disability  rating) may be eligible for some of the independent 
living services.   I would recommend that you visit the www.vetsuccess.gov 
web site.   There is a strong emphasis for employment but under the 5 track 
system,  there is an independent living component.

I hope this  helps.

Vito
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:18  PM
Subject: Re: [Blindvet-talk] Question for VITO


>  Frank,
> Vito is a member and works for the VA. I believe hecan  enlighten us.
> Dwight
>
> In a message dated 2/7/2008  9:13:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ciscos2 at cox.net  writes:
>
> Hi  Dwight,
>
> I don't know who Vito  is but you and I had a talk about the  blind
> veterans
> and  the VA Hospital a couple months  ago.
>
> Frank
> -----  Original Message ----- 
> From:   <MisterAdvocate at aol.com>
> To:  <bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com>;  <blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:35  PM
> Subject:  [Blindvet-talk] Question for  VITO
>
>
>>
>>  Gene,
>> Lets ask  Vito  for his opinion.
>>  Dwight
>>
>>  In a message dated 2/7/2008 2:15:06 P.M. Eastern  Standard  Time,
>> bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>>   Dwight
>> I got this  from Frank and  I wondered if   you  new what he was talking
>> about
>> and if you  could give him and  answer. I've never heard of this.  I
>>  thought
>> the
>> VA was  suppose to take of the  Veterans.  So I  thought I would  see
>>  what
>> you
>> thought about
>>  this.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>  Gene
>>
>> Note: forwarded message   attached.
>>
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>> To: "Info and  discussion list for  blind  veterans."
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>> Dear Clarence   Huggins,
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>>
>>
>>  My name is   Frank Scarcella I am a blind veteran who recently  joined the
>>  NAB
>> organization, I live in San  Diego, Calif. And I go to the VA  Hospital
>> for
>>  medical treatment.  Here in San Diego the blind  veteran is under  the
>> jurisdiction of Social Service department, which  does  not apply in other
>> VA
>> Hospitals because Blind  veterans  are under the jurisdiction of the
>> [PMR]
>>  Physical Medicine  Rehabilitation department.  Under the roof  of
>> Physical
>>  Medicine the blind veteran is being  taken care of by medical  doctors
>> not
>> Social  Service personnel.  There are other options   available,  like
>> Recreational Therapy, or psychiatry just to mention   a  couple.  Under
>> Social
>> Services it is out  of the  question because the  help just mentioned has
>>  to
>> be
>>  authorized by a medical doctor which  Social  Services has none.  My
>> question
>> is;  why are blind veterans placed  under Social  Service Department  and
>> all
>> other disabled veterans are under    Physical Medical Rehabilitation
>> Department.   A look  into  this  matter will be greatly appreciated by
>>  all
>> blind    veterans.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank  J.   Scarcella
>>
>>
>> ----- Original  Message ----- 
>> From:  "Clarence Huggins"   <bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com>
>> To:   <blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Friday, February 01,  2008  5:18 PM
>> Subject: [Blindvet-talk] I NEED EVENT   IDEA'S FOR THE  NATIONAL
>> CONVENTION
>>  INJULY
>>
>>
>>> Hello All    Members,      I could use all of Your help and idea's  on
>>> the
>>> events program for the convention in  Dallas in July.  I  am new  at this
>>>  and
>>> I need some Idea's on what  to do for the veterans  there  and to show
>>> the
>>>  new   members when they come into the organization  in the future so  it
>>> will
>>> help us to grow in strength.  So  if  you  come up with some Idea's would
>>>  you
>>> please  contact me by phone or  email  me.
>>>
>>>  Thanks a   Lot
>>>  Gene    Huggins
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Vito,
Sorry for the error, but thanks for the answer. I hope it helps Frank.
If not perhaps  Frank can re emphasize what his concern is and what the shortfall is perceived to be.
Dwight
 
In a message dated 2/9/2008 9:28:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vjdesantis at optonline.net writes:
Hi Folks,
Sorry it has taken a couple of days to respond.  I've been away for three
days and I am just now getting to my e-mails.
Just as a point of clarification, I don't work for the VA.  I am the
director of a state agency serving the blind and visually impaired in New
Jersey. But, here is my shot at answering Frank's question.
The probblem Frank raises is due in good part to the organizational
structure of the VA.  Blindness services is within the Veteran Health
Administration (VHA).  By design, they follow a medical model.  All patient
care, prostheses, the blindness centers and the VIST coordinators all are
found under the health side of the VA.  Of course, many of us need this
help.  I am not knocking it, but for achieving independence it is I believe
contr productive.  Even if is under a social services department in a VA
facility, it will still be organizationally under the health side of the VA.
By contrast, the VA's benefit side of the house (VBA) may be of some help.
For veterans who have some service connection disability,(I believe a 10
percent disability rating) may be eligible for some of the independent
living services.  I would recommend that you visit the www.vetsuccess.gov
web site.  There is a strong emphasis for employment but under the 5 track
system, there is an independent living component.
I hope this helps.
Vito
----- Original Message -----
From: <MisterAdvocate at aol.com>
To: <blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindvet-talk] Question for VITO
> Frank,
> Vito is a member and works for the VA. I believe hecan enlighten us.
> Dwight
>
> In a message dated 2/7/2008 9:13:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ciscos2 at cox.net writes:
>
> Hi  Dwight,
>
> I don't know who Vito is but you and I had a talk about the  blind
> veterans
> and the VA Hospital a couple months  ago.
>
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  <MisterAdvocate at aol.com>
> To: <bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com>;  <blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:35  PM
> Subject: [Blindvet-talk] Question for VITO
>
>
>>
>>  Gene,
>> Lets ask Vito  for his opinion.
>>  Dwight
>>
>> In a message dated 2/7/2008 2:15:06 P.M. Eastern  Standard Time,
>> bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>>  Dwight
>> I got this  from Frank and  I wondered if  you  new what he was talking
>> about
>> and if you could give him and  answer. I've never heard of this.  I
>> thought
>> the
>> VA was  suppose to take of the Veterans.  So I  thought I would  see
>> what
>> you
>> thought about
>> this.
>>
>>  Thanks
>> Gene
>>
>> Note: forwarded message  attached.
>>
>> ____________________________________
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>> To: "Info and  discussion list for blind  veterans."
>> <blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>> Dear Clarence  Huggins,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My name is   Frank Scarcella I am a blind veteran who recently joined the
>>  NAB
>> organization, I live in San Diego, Calif. And I go to the VA  Hospital
>> for
>> medical treatment.  Here in San Diego the blind  veteran is under the
>> jurisdiction of Social Service department, which  does not apply in other
>> VA
>> Hospitals because Blind veterans  are under the jurisdiction of the
>> [PMR]
>> Physical Medicine  Rehabilitation department.  Under the roof of
>> Physical
>>  Medicine the blind veteran is being taken care of by medical  doctors
>> not
>> Social Service personnel.  There are other options   available, like
>> Recreational Therapy, or psychiatry just to mention  a  couple.  Under
>> Social
>> Services it is out of the  question because the  help just mentioned has
>> to
>> be
>>  authorized by a medical doctor which Social  Services has none.  My
>> question
>> is; why are blind veterans placed  under Social  Service Department and
>> all
>> other disabled veterans are under   Physical Medical Rehabilitation
>> Department.   A look into  this  matter will be greatly appreciated by
>> all
>> blind   veterans.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank J.   Scarcella
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:  "Clarence Huggins"  <bigmanhuggi at yahoo.com>
>> To:  <blindvet-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Friday, February 01, 2008  5:18 PM
>> Subject: [Blindvet-talk] I NEED EVENT  IDEA'S FOR THE  NATIONAL
>> CONVENTION
>> INJULY
>>
>>
>>> Hello All   Members,      I could use all of Your help and idea's on
>>> the
>>> events program for the convention in Dallas in July.  I  am new  at this
>>> and
>>> I need some Idea's on what  to do for the veterans there  and to show
>>> the
>>>  new  members when they come into the organization  in the future so it
>>> will
>>> help us to grow in strength.  So if  you  come up with some Idea's would
>>> you
>>> please  contact me by phone or  email me.
>>>
>>>  Thanks a  Lot
>>>  Gene   Huggins
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ---------------------------------
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>>> Try
>>>  it
>>>  now.
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