[Blindtlk] e: technological toilet...

Aziza acwaterreader09 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 23:40:07 CST 2008


I agree with Mike and Lloyd.
I don't think this topic will be incoporated into a speech just because of 
it's ubsurdity, and because I don't think that we VI/Blind people will be 
impacted to much by not being able to use a robot potty! I personally can do 
with out... Now, if robot potties took over our world wide bathrooms, then 
it may be time to interfere, but for now I think we're ok...
It kind of reminds me of those movies where the buildings were alive...
Abby
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>   1. Re: technological toilet, this is for real! (T. Joseph Carter)
>   2. Re: technological toilet, this is for real! (dewey bradley)
>   3. Re: technological toilet, this is for real! (Lloyd Rasmussen)
>   4. Re: technological toilet, this is for real! (Mike Freeman)
>   5. Re: technological toilet, this is for real! (Steve)
>   6. Re: technological toilet, this is for real! (Steve)
>   7. Re: [Blindtlk new to the list (jeremy gilbreth)
>   8. Re: [Blindtlk new to the list (T. Joseph Carter)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:41:16 -0800
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <20080114224116.GA28195 at bluecherry.net>
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> Another crappy joke in a banquet speech..
>
> Joseph
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Kathy Davis wrote:
>> Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will 
>> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>>
>> Kathy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:09:16 -0600
> From: "dewey bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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> does someone have this message without all the replys?
> I want to send It to a friend, but I don't think the aridgenal message Is
> here anymore.
> I forgot to save It.
> If you have It, please send It to me, thanks!
> my address is
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
>> Another crappy joke in a banquet speech..
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Kathy Davis wrote:
>>> Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will
>>> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>>>
>>> Kathy
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:56:48 -0500
> From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras at sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <003801c85719$e3da42b0$0a0110ac at lras05>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> This is not necessarily banquet speech material.  There is rampant
> speculation that this device will be inaccessible, but no one has claimed 
> to
> have tested it yet.  And there was nothing about blind people in the 
> article
> which was posted.
>
> Having said this, I suspect also that this bathroom will turn out to have
> major inaccessibility problems, even if they put braille next to the
> buttons.
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
> Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kathy Davis
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:25 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>>
>> Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will
>> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>> Kathy Davis, Counselor, LMHC
>> Senior Professor
>> Daytona Beach Community College
>> 386-506-3369
>> davisk at dbcc.edu
>>
>> >>> "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com> Saturday, January 12,
>> 2008 5:53 PM >>>
>> X-nfbnet.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
>> information
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>> And who determined that four squares of TP are sufficient, and in three
>> installments anyway?  *laugh*
>>
>> Joseph
> ...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:00:11 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <006501c8571a$5d6dc3e0$d15e1418 at owner96190708e>
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>
> I rather doubt it as the contraption wasn't marketed specifically as a
> device for the blind and I'm not sure Dr. Maurer would *want* to demand
> equal access. (grin)
>
> Mike
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Kathy Davis
>  To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:25 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
>  Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will
> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>
>  Kathy
>
>  Kathy Davis, Counselor, LMHC
>  Senior Professor
>  Daytona Beach Community College
>  386-506-3369
>  davisk at dbcc.edu
>
>  >>> "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com> Saturday, January 12,
> 2008 5:53 PM >>>
>  X-nfbnet.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
> information
>
>  And who determined that four squares of TP are sufficient, and in
> three
>  installments anyway?  *laugh*
>
>  Joseph
>
>  On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:58:32PM -0500, Kirk Harmon wrote:
>  > However Mike, the question is, after touching ourselves, do we then
> touch
>  > the buttons or after? LOL!
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>  > To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>  > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:48 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>  >
>  >
>  > > Waaaaait a minute here. Let's curb our indignation for a moment
> and use
>  > > our noodles. What is one of the greatest complaints many
> (especially
>  > > females) have about public restrooms? Lack of cleanliness. So
> everything
>  > > is disinfected (whether this really works is, perhaps, another
> story).
>  > > And we don't want people touching anything (except, of course,
>  > > ourselves) so there's an incentive to have pushbuttons. And
> automatic
>  > > doors are a consequence of those with mobility impairments asking
> for
>  > > accessibility. Yes, the thing will probably be a pain for us, the
> blind.
>  > > And yes, it probably costs more than it ought. But there *is*
>  > > rationality behind many of the features.
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> I rather doubt it as the contraption wasn't marketed specifically as a 
> device for the blind and I'm not sure Dr. Maurer would *want* to demand 
> equal access. (grin)
> ?
> Mike
> ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> mailto:DAVISK at dbcc.edu Kathy Davis
> To:
> mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
> Sent:
> Monday, January 14, 2008 5:25 AM
> Subject:
> Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will 
> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
> Kathy
> Kathy Davis, Counselor, LMHC
> Senior Professor
> Daytona Beach Community College
> 386-506-3369
> mailto:davisk at dbcc.edu davisk at dbcc.edu
>>>> "T. Joseph Carter" < mailto:tjosephcarter at gmail.com 
>>>> tjosephcarter at gmail.com
>> Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:53 PM >>>
> X-nfbnet.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more 
> information
> And who determined that four squares of TP are sufficient, and in three
> installments anyway?? *laugh*
> Joseph
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:58:32PM -0500, Kirk Harmon wrote:
>> However Mike, the question is, after touching ourselves, do we then touch
>> the buttons or after? LOL!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" < mailto:k7uij at panix.com k7uij at panix.com
>>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" < mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org 
>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>>
>>
>> > Waaaaait a minute here. Let's curb our indignation for a moment and use
>> > our noodles. What is one of the greatest complaints many (especially
>> > females) have about public restrooms? Lack of cleanliness. So 
>> > everything
>> > is disinfected (whether this really works is, perhaps, another story).
>> > And we don't want people touching anything (except, of course,
>> > ourselves) so there's an incentive to have pushbuttons. And automatic
>> > doors are a consequence of those with mobility impairments asking for
>> > accessibility. Yes, the thing will probably be a pain for us, the 
>> > blind.
>> > And yes, it probably costs more than it ought. But there *is*
>> > rationality behind many of the features.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:14:58 -0500
> From: "Steve" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <003801c8571c$6db13550$6501a8c0 at stevedesktop>
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> This is totally ridiculous!!!  It is a great device which ensures
> cleanliness.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:00 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
> I rather doubt it as the contraption wasn't marketed specifically as a
> device for the blind and I'm not sure Dr. Maurer would *want* to demand
> equal access. (grin)
>
> Mike
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Kathy Davis
>  To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:25 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
>  Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will
> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>
>  Kathy
>
>  Kathy Davis, Counselor, LMHC
>  Senior Professor
>  Daytona Beach Community College
>  386-506-3369
>  davisk at dbcc.edu
>
>  >>> "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com> Saturday, January 12,
>
> 2008 5:53 PM >>>
>  X-nfbnet.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
> information
>
>  And who determined that four squares of TP are sufficient, and in
> three
>  installments anyway?  *laugh*
>
>  Joseph
>
>  On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:58:32PM -0500, Kirk Harmon wrote:
>  > However Mike, the question is, after touching ourselves, do we then
> touch
>  > the buttons or after? LOL!
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>  > To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>  > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:48 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>  >
>  >
>  > > Waaaaait a minute here. Let's curb our indignation for a moment
> and use
>  > > our noodles. What is one of the greatest complaints many
> (especially
>  > > females) have about public restrooms? Lack of cleanliness. So
> everything
>  > > is disinfected (whether this really works is, perhaps, another
> story).
>  > > And we don't want people touching anything (except, of course,
>  > > ourselves) so there's an incentive to have pushbuttons. And
> automatic
>  > > doors are a consequence of those with mobility impairments asking
> for
>  > > accessibility. Yes, the thing will probably be a pain for us, the
> blind.
>  > > And yes, it probably costs more than it ought. But there *is*
>  > > rationality behind many of the features.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:17:10 -0500
> From: "Steve" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <003901c8571c$bc0b5820$6501a8c0 at stevedesktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I think it is time to flush this particular topic!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Kathy Davis
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:25 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
> Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr. Maurer will
> incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>
> Kathy
>
> Kathy Davis, Counselor, LMHC
> Senior Professor
> Daytona Beach Community College
> 386-506-3369
> davisk at dbcc.edu
>
>>>> "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com> Saturday, January 12,
>>>> 2008 5:53 PM >>>
> X-nfbnet.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
> information
>
> And who determined that four squares of TP are sufficient, and in three
> installments anyway?  *laugh*
>
> Joseph
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:58:32PM -0500, Kirk Harmon wrote:
>> However Mike, the question is, after touching ourselves, do we then
>> touch
>> the buttons or after? LOL!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>>
>>
>> > Waaaaait a minute here. Let's curb our indignation for a moment and
>> > use our noodles. What is one of the greatest complaints many
>> > (especially
>> > females) have about public restrooms? Lack of cleanliness. So
> everything
>> > is disinfected (whether this really works is, perhaps, another
> story).
>> > And we don't want people touching anything (except, of course,
>> > ourselves) so there's an incentive to have pushbuttons. And
> automatic
>> > doors are a consequence of those with mobility impairments asking
> for
>> > accessibility. Yes, the thing will probably be a pain for us, the
> blind.
>> > And yes, it probably costs more than it ought. But there *is*
>> > rationality behind many of the features.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:35:44 -0500
> From: jeremy gilbreth <jermy at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Blindtlk new to the list
> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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> I am new to the list.  I haven't seen the original message.  If
> it is what I think it is, someone said they stumbled across one
> in Canada.  Later.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Steve" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
>>To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:14:58 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>>This is totally ridiculous!!!  It is a great device which ensures
>>cleanliness.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:00 PM
>>To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
>>I rather doubt it as the contraption wasn't marketed specifically
> as a
>>device for the blind and I'm not sure Dr.  Maurer would *want* to
> demand
>>equal access.  (grin)
>
>>Mike
>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Kathy Davis
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:25 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
>>  Well, I'll say one thing...I would imagine that Dr.  Maurer
> will
>>incorporate this topic in his 2008 banquet speech.
>
>>  Kathy
>
>>  Kathy Davis, Counselor, LMHC
>>  Senior Professor
>>  Daytona Beach Community College
>>  386-506-3369
>>  davisk at dbcc.edu
>
>>>>> "T.  Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com> Saturday, January
> 12,
>
>>2008 5:53 PM
>>  X-nfbnet.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP
> for more
>>information
>
>>  And who determined that four squares of TP are sufficient, and
> in
>>three
>>  installments anyway?  *laugh*
>
>>  Joseph
>
>>  On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 02:58:32PM -0500, Kirk Harmon wrote:
>>> However Mike, the question is, after touching ourselves, do we
> then
>>touch
>>> the buttons or after? LOL!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technological toilet, this is for real!
>
>
>>>> Waaaaait a minute here.  Let's curb our indignation for a moment
>>and use
>>>> our noodles.  What is one of the greatest complaints many
>>(especially
>>>> females) have about public restrooms? Lack of cleanliness.  So
>>everything
>>>> is disinfected (whether this really works is, perhaps, another
>>story).
>>>> And we don't want people touching anything (except, of course,
>>>> ourselves) so there's an incentive to have pushbuttons.  And
>>automatic
>>>> doors are a consequence of those with mobility impairments
> asking
>>for
>>>> accessibility.  Yes, the thing will probably be a pain for us,
> the
>>blind.
>>>> And yes, it probably costs more than it ought.  But there *is*
>>>> rationality behind many of the features.
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  blindtlk mailing list
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:17:59 -0800
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Blindtlk new to the list
> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <20080115051759.GA29094 at bluecherry.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Google News finds it quickly enough.  It was a NY Times thing.  Look for
> Earthlings in the headline.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:35:44PM -0500, jeremy gilbreth wrote:
>> I am new to the list.  I haven't seen the original message.  If
>> it is what I think it is, someone said they stumbled across one
>> in Canada.  Later.
>
>
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