[Blindtlk] Fwd: Amazon press release ConcerningAccessibility ofWeb Site

Fri Jan 4 06:34:45 CST 2008

First, the suit is the legal method of addressing grievences in our society 
rather than violance or letting a grievaence go unaddressed.  As for letting 
the Free Market address all things that is absolute nonsense.  Do I need to 
put up an example or are you just venting your extreemist political view 
here?
What about the banking community determining that it does not pay to make 
any functionallity of their WebSites, Cash Machines nor have anhy level of 
support over the Phone nor at any branch?  You can not do any banking what 
so ever without someone else to do it for you.  Banks are a critical 
component of any society and without banking accessibility to the general 
public the society would collapse.  Ditto accessibility to the Banking 
System for disabled folks.  They would not be able to function at all in the 
society's Economic System which is a Fundemental cornerstone of any 
Political Society.
What about food?  You don't need to be able to shop in any respect for food 
if the International Food Companies decide not to make things accessible 
somehow?  What about Transportation, privatized of course?  Please, I get so 
tired of hearing the  pratter of the Conservitives that float around trying 
to pretend they can do it all on their own no matter what the Economic, 
legal and Political environment might be.  Too bad many of them did not have 
a chance to live in Germany when it was really supporting genetic health and 
individual rights for select society members at the cost of the members not 
supported by the majority nor the Companies doing business there.
There are reasons why our fathers set up Social Security, Medicare and have 
continued trying to make our society  more inclusive to all minorities. 
Don't bother to answer this as I won't respond further as this topic just 
gets me upset and I don't like to be upset.
Rick Farmington Mich. USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: Amazon press release ConcerningAccessibility 
ofWeb Site


> No feathers are ruffled here, and this is worth exploring.  I'm not sure 
> what you are saying here.  It is my understanding
> that we have achieved a cooperative agreement with Amazon which is 
> different than the Target issue.  I believe we
> have dealt some with specific governmental agencies, and the law is pretty 
> clear there so individuals have a lot of clout
> in getting changes and collective action should be less necessary there. 
> I don't think it is an either/or situation.  The
> fact is that most of what we do in our lives, shop, pay bills, save and 
> spend money, and work, are done in the private
> sector.  Businesses now do have to meet certain requirements for other 
> groups, even though I know there are some
> who may not believe that is correct.  Still, in that context, what we want 
> to see happen is not all that difference than
> what businesses are already used to doing in other areas.  If thought is 
> given in advance to web page accessibility, the
> cost is going to be low compared to dealing with such things as accessible 
> entrances and bathrooms.
>
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:21:09 -0600, dewey bradley wrote:
>
>>I don't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers here.
>>I do agree that the web needs to be accessible, but don't you think that
>>peple will look at this is some one sooing private companys?
>>It's just like the target lawsuit.  what would you guys think if you had a
>>websight, and someone was trying to tell you how to run your business?
>>It's not like we don't have a choice, the government is a different story,
>>but with them, they have to do It.
>>If a company don't want my business, I just take It elswhere.
>>Why doesn't the NFB fokis on things like makeing transit companys comply
>>with the ADA, instead of suing businesses?
>>It's not like these companys make us give them our money.
>>that's just my view, sorry if you don't like what I have to say.
>
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>>Subject: [Blindtlk] Fwd: Amazon press release Concerning Accessibility 
>>ofWeb
>>Site
>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>>Amazon.com Accessibility to be Completed June 30, 2008
>>>>
>>>>The National Federation of the Blind and online retailer Amazon,
>>>>Inc., have announced that work to make Amazon.com fully accessible
>>>>to blind computer users is to be completed by June 30, 2008.  In
>>>>March of 2007, Amazon entered into a technology development
>>>>agreement with the National Federation of the Blind pursuant to
>>>>which Amazon was to attempt to make Amazon.com fully accessible by
>>>>December 31, 2007.  Because of the complexity of the task, it was
>>>>recognized that this was an ambitious goal and that problems might
>>>>be encountered; accordingly, the agreement provided that Amazon
>>>>could have a six-month extension, if necessary, to complete work on
>>>>making its Web site fully accessible to blind computer
>>>>users.  Amazon's Web site has improved; nonetheless, Amazon
>>>>recognizes that it is not yet fully accessible.  Amazon has
>>>>indicated that it will complete the task within the extended period.
>>>>
>>>>Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
>>>>said: "Full and equal access to the Internet is critical in order
>>>>for the blind to participate fully in today's society.  While
>>>>Amazon.com is not yet fully accessible, we are pleased with the
>>>>progress that has been made and we believe that the company remains
>>>>committed to making the site fully accessible.  We will continue to
>>>>work with Amazon.com to ensure that the blind can shop for books,
>>>>music, movies, and the myriad other products available at this
>>>>leading online retailer with the same ease and convenience as all
>>>>other shoppers."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>># # #
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> David Andrews and white cane Harry.
>>>
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