[Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback wanted

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Thu Feb 14 12:38:11 CST 2008


Diane:

I believe that your reasoning is in error in your assumption that the 
sighted are paying for a service they use (the printed directory) 
whereas the blind, not using directories but paying the same amount, 
are, in effect, paying for an "extra" service.

Many sighted persons don't use directories, either. You should hear my 
significant other every time a new printed book shows up on our 
doorstep! Yet we don't hear sighted persons complaining that they are 
being charged for a service they do not use? Why? Because occasionally 
they *do* use a printed directory. I should say that we, the blind, are 
in the same boat. We don't use directories often but I dare say that we 
occasionally have a reader or other helpful person look up a number or 
two for us. As such, we *do* use the directories to the same extent as 
do many sighted folks.

I think even we in NFB are all-too-prone to fall into the trap of 
thinking that because the sighted have sight, they use it. Were that 
true, there wouldn't be any vehicle/pedestrian accidents!

The truth is that we -- all of us -- pay for services we don't use 
often. But it's part of the burden of living.

Incidentally, I don't object to paying for Directory Assistance, either. 
I figure a service is being rendered and I am more-than-willing to pay 
for that service. I don't feel society owes me breaks because I am 
blind.

Now where is the chaffeur-driven limo I've been asking for?

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graves, Diane
  To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback 
wanted


  Hi Mike And All,

  I admit that I don't have comcast, so I haven't been following this
  thread real closely, and I don't even know what the origin of the
  "paying for services we don't use" track was about for sure.

  But I did have to chime in on the Directory Assistance thing.  A 
sighted
  individual receives a complimentary and accessible printed telephone
  directory.  Oh, I'm sure that maybe those are funded by moneys which 
are
  collected from all telephone subscribers for bill payments and so 
forth.
  But the fact is, this is a service which is provided to them.

  Having to pay extra for a service that the sighted do not have to pay
  extra for because they have their yellow and/or white pages, does not
  afford us equal treatment.  I see no reason why we should have to pay
  extra either.

  Diane Graves
  Civil Rights Specialist
  Indiana Civil Rights Commission
  Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
  317-232-2647

  "Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference."--Winston
  Churchill

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
  On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:18 AM
  To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback
  wanted

  Now waaait a minute here. We are often charged for services we don't 
use

  simply as part of living in the world as it is. I don't use libraries
  but I pay taxes to support them, for example. If we start down that
  reasoning road, it won't be long before we are, in truth, second-class
  citizens and it will have been our own fault in that we will have 
signed

  the second-class proclamations.

  But then I was in the minority even within NFB in that I do not object
  to paying Directory Assistance charges; it's part of the nuisance of
  blindness!

  Mike

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Milissa Garside
    To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; 
feedback

  wanted


    Hi Ray,

    I really like your letter. I just may write one myself. I to think 
it
    unacceptable that I have to pay for on demand TV when I can't use 
it.
  I have
    asked Comcast for discounts on my Comcast bill because I am not able
  to use
    the on demand features or the recording features on my cable box and
  the
    answer is always a resounding "no." Not to mention, Comcast's 
horrible
    customer service here in Massachusetts. I have seriously considered
  going to
    verizon for the customer service issue alone.

    Milissa

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
  matter."
    Martin Luther King Jr.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
    To: "BlintTalk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "Electronics Talk"
    <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>; "NFB Talk" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:46 AM
    Subject: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback
  wanted


    > Hi,
    >
    > I would like y'all's input on the following which is a draft of 
the
  letter
    > I'm intending to send to Rick Germano, the Vice President of
  Customer
    > service at Comcast.
    >
    >
    > Dear Mr. Germano:
    >
    >            I have been a customer of Comcast ever since January
  24th,
    > 2008.
    > I am a totally blind customer.  I use a screen reader to access my
    > computer.
    >
    > For the most part, I have very much enjoyed your service.  The
  courteous
    > attitude of nearly all of your customer service representatives
  speaks
    > well
    > of their love of working for Comcast and of their strong 
commitment
  to try
    > to help their customers as much as it is in their power to do so.
  And
    > yet,
    > Mr. Germano, I do have some serious problems with certain aspects 
of

  the
    > service which Comcast provides to its customers; and, 
particularly,
  the
    > lack
    > of knowledge of the special accommodations which are sometimes
  needed by
    > blind customers.  This is the case regarding especially two key
  areas of
    > service; the totally inaccessible barrier put up by the use of the
  visual
    > captcha found when a customer signs up for the online bill payment
  service
    > and for Fancast, and the other is the lack of a convenient way to
  access
    > the
    > menu structure of the cable set top boxes and DVR units you 
provide.
    >
    >            Let me give you specific examples of exactly what I 
mean.

  I
    > went to:
    >
    > www.comcast.com
    >
    > to try to set up my online bill payment account.  I was able to 
fill

  out
    > the
    > form for the most part, until I got to the bottom of the form.  At
  the
    > point
    > in the form just before the "submit" button, there was the
  instruction,
    > "please type in the numbers you see in the image.".  It is not
  possible
    > for
    > screen reader programs such as the one I use to access and read 
the
    > numbers
    > or special characters indicated; moreover, neither was there an
  audio
    > alternative which I could have used.  I called and requested a
  special pin
    > to try to resolve this issue.  I got the pin in the mail but it
  didn't
    > work.
    > I then called customer service.  The lady who answered the phone 
was

  very
    > nice and she too tried to fill out the form using the information
  I'd
    > given
    > her; but, she couldn't make it work either.  Upon consulting her
    > supervisor,
    > she was informed (and she thus informed me) that customer service
    > representatives are NOT supposed to fill out those web forms 
because

  it
    > opens up liability issues which could potentially compromise
  security.  I
    > then asked about paying my bill via telephone.  I was informed 
there

  is a
    > $4.00 (Four dollar) charge for this service.  Mr. Germano, this is
    > unacceptable!  This practice and policy on the part of Comcast
    > eeffectively
    > shuts out the blind customer from being able to independently pay
  bills
    > and
    > otherwise transact business with your company!!!  Why should the
  blind
    > customer be charged a fee and thus be penalized merely due to
  blindness
    > and
    > inexcusable oversight on the part of Comcast policy makers who 
most
  likely
    > haven't taken us blind customers in to account?  It is not just 
this
    > matter
    > which I wish to communicate to you.  There is another.
    >
    >            I have the Hi Definition DVR.  When I first got it, I 
was
    > unable
    > to get any customer service representative to assist me with the
    > properoperation of the DVR.  To his credit, the representative
  scheduled
    > an
    > installer to come to my home for the purpose of helping me learn 
the

  menu
    > structure of the box.  This memorize and press routine is, 
however,
  very
    > much a hit and miss solution.  IF a wrong key is pressed, how does 
a

  blind
    > customer know where he is and thus how to navigate to where he 
needs

  to be
    > to find the menu item in which he is interested?  For a second 
time,

  I
    > needed help.  For a second time, I was offered the solution of an
    > installer
    > to come to my home to help.  Mr. Germano, I do not think it is an
    > acceptable
    > solution that an installer should have to come to the home of a
  blind
    > customer to get him or her out of a jam with a cable box menu
  structure;
    > especially when he may have much more important calls to make;
  whether
    > they
    > are installation or trouble shooting calls.
    >
    >            Finally, Mr. Germano, I asked for my Comcast bill to be
  sent to
    > me in Braille.  The customer service representative indicated that
  he
    > didn't
    > even know if this was possible or not.  He told me this after I
  waited
    > nearly two hours on the phone.  I am informed this is in fact
  possible.
    >
    > Mr. Germano, I would like to remind you, or make you aware in case
  you
    > hadn't
    > heard, that the National Federation of the blind:
    >
    > www.nfb.org
    >
    > passed two resolutions at our 2007 national convention which deal
  very
    > directly with the issues I have raised.  If you have any 
questions,
  please
    > feel free to contact me at my home number:
    >
    > (985)360-3375
    >
    > or my e-mail:
    >
    > rforetjr at comcast.net
    >
    > or Dr. Maurer, President of the National federation of the blind:
    >
    > (410)659-9314
    >
    > or by e-mail:
    >
    > officeofthepresident at nfb.org
    >
    > Here are the text of the relrelevant resolutions we passed 
regarding

  the
    > issues I raised:
    >
    > RESOLUTION 2007-07
    >
    > Regarding Elimination of Barriers Created by Online Security
  Measures
    >
    > WHEREAS, an ever-increasing number of financial transactions are
  taking
    > place online, including bill paying, stock trading, account
  management,
    > and
    > the
    >
    > purchase of almost every imaginable kind of merchandise; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, the vast sums of money now moving over the Internet tempt
  the
    > unscrupulous to develop schemes and scams to steal this money as
  Internet
    > users are
    >
    > painfully aware from the all too familiar emails pretending to be
  from
    > various banks and institutions, which are not actually sent by 
them;

  and
    >
    > WHEREAS, online merchants, financial institutions, and others
  recognize
    > the
    > growth potential of the Web, but also realize that this growth 
will
  be
    > thwarted
    >
    > if individuals are concerned about the security of their
  transactions; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, for security reasons banks are rapidly adopting systems
  using the
    > method known as "visual CAPTCHA" because so far it cannot be
  circumvented
    > by
    >
    > computerized means, but requires a human to enter numbers 
displayed
  on a
    > screen; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, visual CAPTCHA is impossible for blind people to use, and
  online
    > entities are developing yet other systems, also impossible for 
blind
    > people
    > to
    >
    > use, such as credit and debit cards whose security numbers change
  visibly
    > in
    > accordance with a particular pattern; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, all these security systems to eliminate fraud may also
  eliminate
    > blind people from engaging in financial transactions online; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, security systems that prevent fraud and do not prevent
  blind
    > users
    > are achievable and should be mandated by our country's laws
  requiring
    > access
    >
    > for the disabled: Now, therefore,
    >
    > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in 
Convention
    > assembled this sixth day of July, 2007, in the city of Atlanta,
  Georgia,
    > that this
    >
    > organization call upon online merchants to find solutions that
  enhance
    > security but do not block the access of blind users to these
  extremely
    > important
    >
    > online services; and
    >
    > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization seek congressional 
or
    > regulatory solutions to this access barrier if online merchants
  choose to
    > protect security
    >
    > only by closing out blind Americans.
    >
    > RESOLUTION 2007-16
    >
    > Regarding the Inaccessibility of Digital Cable Services
    >
    > WHEREAS, cable television companies such as Comcast, Time Warner,
    > Mediacom,
    > and others are offering a growing number of digitally based and
    > interactive
    >
    > services through their networks such as video on demand; digital
  video
    > recording and playback; and on-screen, interactive program guides;
  and
    >
    > WHEREAS, none of these services can be used without the ability
  visually
    > to
    > read menus and prompts that are displayed on the television 
screen,
  thus
    > rendering
    >
    > them inaccessible to the blind; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, given that technologies now exist to make computers, cell
  phones,
    > and other electronic devices fully accessible to the blind, and
  given that
    > synthesized
    >
    > speech is now available for hand-held devices, this regrettable 
lack

  of
    > nonvisual access is difficult to understand, let alone accept; and
    >
    > WHEREAS, blind cable customers pay as much as everybody else for 
the

  cable
    > services they receive, even though some of these services are not
  fully
    > available
    >
    > to them: Now, therefore,
    >
    > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in 
Convention
    > assembled this sixth day of July, 2007, in the city of Atlanta,
  Georgia,
    > that this
    >
    > organization call upon cable companies such as Comcast, Time 
Warner,
    > Mediacom, and others to take immediate steps to remove the 
nonvisual
    > access
    > barriers
    >
    > they have created for their blind customers through the adoption 
of
    > digitally based, interactive services; and
    >
    > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization urge these same
  companies to
    > work with the blind themselves, through the National Federation of
  the
    > Blind,
    >
    > to design, develop, and implement specific solutions that will 
allow

  their
    > blind customers to use the same digitally based, interactive
  services as
    > their
    >
    > sighted peers.
    >
    > Mr. Germano, I strongly urge you to take my letter with the utmost
    > seriousness and to work with me and your other blind customers and
  the NFB
    > to find resolutions to these issues.  Thank you very much.
    >
    > That is the end of the letter.  Thoughts?
    >
    > Note, my e-mail signature will not appear in the text of the 
letter.
    >
    >
    > Sincerely yours,
    > The Constantly Barefooted,
    > Ray
    > Home phone and fax:
    > (985)360-3375
    > E-mail:
    > rforetjratcomcastdotnet
    > Skype Name:
    > barefootedray
    >
    > God bless President George W. Bush!
    > God bless our troops!
    > and God bless America
    >
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    > blindtlk at nfbnet.org
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Diane:
 
I believe that your reasoning is in error in your assumption that the sighted are paying for a service they use (the printed directory) whereas the blind, not using directories but paying the same amount, are, in effect, paying for an "extra" service.
 
Many sighted persons don't use directories, either. You should hear my significant other every time a new printed book shows up on our doorstep! Yet we don't hear sighted persons complaining that they are being charged for a service they do not use? Why? Because occasionally they *do* use a printed directory. I should say that we, the blind, are in the same boat. We don't use directories often but I dare say that we occasionally have a reader or other helpful person look up a number or two for us. As such, we *do* use the directories to the same extent as do many sighted folks.
 
I think even we in NFB are all-too-prone to fall into the trap of thinking that because the sighted have sight, they use it. Were that true, there wouldn't be any vehicle/pedestrian accidents!
 
The truth is that we -- all of us -- pay for services we don't use often. But it's part of the burden of living.
 
Incidentally, I don't object to paying for Directory Assistance, either. I figure a service is being rendered and I am more-than-willing to pay for that service. I don't feel society owes me breaks because I am blind.
 
Now where is the chaffeur-driven limo I've been asking for?
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:dgraves at icrc.in.gov Graves, Diane
To:
mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject:
Re: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback wanted
Hi Mike And All,
I admit that I don't have comcast, so I haven't been following this
thread real closely, and I don't even know what the origin of the
"paying for services we don't use" track was about for sure.
But I did have to chime in on the Directory Assistance thing.  A sighted
individual receives a complimentary and accessible printed telephone
directory.  Oh, I'm sure that maybe those are funded by moneys which are
collected from all telephone subscribers for bill payments and so forth.
But the fact is, this is a service which is provided to them.
Having to pay extra for a service that the sighted do not have to pay
extra for because they have their yellow and/or white pages, does not
afford us equal treatment.  I see no reason why we should have to pay
extra either.
Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
317-232-2647
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:18 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback
wanted
Now waaait a minute here. We are often charged for services we don't use
simply as part of living in the world as it is. I don't use libraries
but I pay taxes to support them, for example. If we start down that
reasoning road, it won't be long before we are, in truth, second-class
citizens and it will have been our own fault in that we will have signed
the second-class proclamations.
But then I was in the minority even within NFB in that I do not object
to paying Directory Assistance charges; it's part of the nuisance of
blindness!
Mike
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Milissa Garside
  To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback
wanted
  Hi Ray,
  I really like your letter. I just may write one myself. I to think it
  unacceptable that I have to pay for on demand TV when I can't use it.
I have
  asked Comcast for discounts on my Comcast bill because I am not able
to use
  the on demand features or the recording features on my cable box and
the
  answer is always a resounding "no." Not to mention, Comcast's horrible
  customer service here in Massachusetts. I have seriously considered
going to
  verizon for the customer service issue alone.
  Milissa
  "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
matter."
  Martin Luther King Jr.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Ray Foret jr" < mailto:rforetjr at comcast.net rforetjr at comcast.net
>
  To: "BlintTalk" < mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>; "Electronics Talk"
  < mailto:electronics-talk at nfbnet.org electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>; "NFB Talk" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:46 AM
  Subject: [Blindtlk] letter from a blind Comcast customer; feedback
wanted
  > Hi,
  >
  > I would like y'all's input on the following which is a draft of the
letter
  > I'm intending to send to Rick Germano, the Vice President of
Customer
  > service at Comcast.
  >
  >
  > Dear Mr. Germano:
  >
  >            I have been a customer of Comcast ever since January
24th,
  > 2008.
  > I am a totally blind customer.  I use a screen reader to access my
  > computer.
  >
  > For the most part, I have very much enjoyed your service.  The
courteous
  > attitude of nearly all of your customer service representatives
speaks
  > well
  > of their love of working for Comcast and of their strong commitment
to try
  > to help their customers as much as it is in their power to do so.
And
  > yet,
  > Mr. Germano, I do have some serious problems with certain aspects of
the
  > service which Comcast provides to its customers; and, particularly,
the
  > lack
  > of knowledge of the special accommodations which are sometimes
needed by
  > blind customers.  This is the case regarding especially two key
areas of
  > service; the totally inaccessible barrier put up by the use of the
visual
  > captcha found when a customer signs up for the online bill payment
service
  > and for Fancast, and the other is the lack of a convenient way to
access
  > the
  > menu structure of the cable set top boxes and DVR units you provide.
  >
  >            Let me give you specific examples of exactly what I mean.
I
  > went to:
  >
  > http://www.comcast.com www.comcast.com
  >
  > to try to set up my online bill payment account.  I was able to fill
out
  > the
  > form for the most part, until I got to the bottom of the form.  At
the
  > point
  > in the form just before the "submit" button, there was the
instruction,
  > "please type in the numbers you see in the image.".  It is not
possible
  > for
  > screen reader programs such as the one I use to access and read the
  > numbers
  > or special characters indicated; moreover, neither was there an
audio
  > alternative which I could have used.  I called and requested a
special pin
  > to try to resolve this issue.  I got the pin in the mail but it
didn't
  > work.
  > I then called customer service.  The lady who answered the phone was
very
  > nice and she too tried to fill out the form using the information
I'd
  > given
  > her; but, she couldn't make it work either.  Upon consulting her
  > supervisor,
  > she was informed (and she thus informed me) that customer service
  > representatives are NOT supposed to fill out those web forms because
it
  > opens up liability issues which could potentially compromise
security.  I
  > then asked about paying my bill via telephone.  I was informed there
is a
  > $4.00 (Four dollar) charge for this service.  Mr. Germano, this is
  > unacceptable!  This practice and policy on the part of Comcast
  > eeffectively
  > shuts out the blind customer from being able to independently pay
bills
  > and
  > otherwise transact business with your company!!!  Why should the
blind
  > customer be charged a fee and thus be penalized merely due to
blindness
  > and
  > inexcusable oversight on the part of Comcast policy makers who most
likely
  > haven't taken us blind customers in to account?  It is not just this
  > matter
  > which I wish to communicate to you.  There is another.
  >
  >            I have the Hi Definition DVR.  When I first got it, I was
  > unable
  > to get any customer service representative to assist me with the
  > properoperation of the DVR.  To his credit, the representative
scheduled
  > an
  > installer to come to my home for the purpose of helping me learn the
menu
  > structure of the box.  This memorize and press routine is, however,
very
  > much a hit and miss solution.  IF a wrong key is pressed, how does a
blind
  > customer know where he is and thus how to navigate to where he needs
to be
  > to find the menu item in which he is interested?  For a second time,
I
  > needed help.  For a second time, I was offered the solution of an
  > installer
  > to come to my home to help.  Mr. Germano, I do not think it is an
  > acceptable
  > solution that an installer should have to come to the home of a
blind
  > customer to get him or her out of a jam with a cable box menu
structure;
  > especially when he may have much more important calls to make;
whether
  > they
  > are installation or trouble shooting calls.
  >
  >            Finally, Mr. Germano, I asked for my Comcast bill to be
sent to
  > me in Braille.  The customer service representative indicated that
he
  > didn't
  > even know if this was possible or not.  He told me this after I
waited
  > nearly two hours on the phone.  I am informed this is in fact
possible.
  >
  > Mr. Germano, I would like to remind you, or make you aware in case
you
  > hadn't
  > heard, that the National Federation of the blind:
  >
  > http://www.nfb.org www.nfb.org
  >
  > passed two resolutions at our 2007 national convention which deal
very
  > directly with the issues I have raised.  If you have any questions,
please
  > feel free to contact me at my home number:
  >
  > (985)360-3375
  >
  > or my e-mail:
  >
  > mailto:rforetjr at comcast.net rforetjr at comcast.net
  >
  > or Dr. Maurer, President of the National federation of the blind:
  >
  > (410)659-9314
  >
  > or by e-mail:
  >
  > mailto:officeofthepresident at nfb.org officeofthepresident at nfb.org
  >
  > Here are the text of the relrelevant resolutions we passed regarding
the
  > issues I raised:
  >
  > RESOLUTION 2007-07
  >
  > Regarding Elimination of Barriers Created by Online Security
Measures
  >
  > WHEREAS, an ever-increasing number of financial transactions are
taking
  > place online, including bill paying, stock trading, account
management,
  > and
  > the
  >
  > purchase of almost every imaginable kind of merchandise; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, the vast sums of money now moving over the Internet tempt
the
  > unscrupulous to develop schemes and scams to steal this money as
Internet
  > users are
  >
  > painfully aware from the all too familiar emails pretending to be
from
  > various banks and institutions, which are not actually sent by them;
and
  >
  > WHEREAS, online merchants, financial institutions, and others
recognize
  > the
  > growth potential of the Web, but also realize that this growth will
be
  > thwarted
  >
  > if individuals are concerned about the security of their
transactions; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, for security reasons banks are rapidly adopting systems
using the
  > method known as "visual CAPTCHA" because so far it cannot be
circumvented
  > by
  >
  > computerized means, but requires a human to enter numbers displayed
on a
  > screen; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, visual CAPTCHA is impossible for blind people to use, and
online
  > entities are developing yet other systems, also impossible for blind
  > people
  > to
  >
  > use, such as credit and debit cards whose security numbers change
visibly
  > in
  > accordance with a particular pattern; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, all these security systems to eliminate fraud may also
eliminate
  > blind people from engaging in financial transactions online; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, security systems that prevent fraud and do not prevent
blind
  > users
  > are achievable and should be mandated by our country's laws
requiring
  > access
  >
  > for the disabled: Now, therefore,
  >
  > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention
  > assembled this sixth day of July, 2007, in the city of Atlanta,
Georgia,
  > that this
  >
  > organization call upon online merchants to find solutions that
enhance
  > security but do not block the access of blind users to these
extremely
  > important
  >
  > online services; and
  >
  > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization seek congressional or
  > regulatory solutions to this access barrier if online merchants
choose to
  > protect security
  >
  > only by closing out blind Americans.
  >
  > RESOLUTION 2007-16
  >
  > Regarding the Inaccessibility of Digital Cable Services
  >
  > WHEREAS, cable television companies such as Comcast, Time Warner,
  > Mediacom,
  > and others are offering a growing number of digitally based and
  > interactive
  >
  > services through their networks such as video on demand; digital
video
  > recording and playback; and on-screen, interactive program guides;
and
  >
  > WHEREAS, none of these services can be used without the ability
visually
  > to
  > read menus and prompts that are displayed on the television screen,
thus
  > rendering
  >
  > them inaccessible to the blind; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, given that technologies now exist to make computers, cell
phones,
  > and other electronic devices fully accessible to the blind, and
given that
  > synthesized
  >
  > speech is now available for hand-held devices, this regrettable lack
of
  > nonvisual access is difficult to understand, let alone accept; and
  >
  > WHEREAS, blind cable customers pay as much as everybody else for the
cable
  > services they receive, even though some of these services are not
fully
  > available
  >
  > to them: Now, therefore,
  >
  > BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention
  > assembled this sixth day of July, 2007, in the city of Atlanta,
Georgia,
  > that this
  >
  > organization call upon cable companies such as Comcast, Time Warner,
  > Mediacom, and others to take immediate steps to remove the nonvisual
  > access
  > barriers
  >
  > they have created for their blind customers through the adoption of
  > digitally based, interactive services; and
  >
  > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization urge these same
companies to
  > work with the blind themselves, through the National Federation of
the
  > Blind,
  >
  > to design, develop, and implement specific solutions that will allow
their
  > blind customers to use the same digitally based, interactive
services as
  > their
  >
  > sighted peers.
  >
  > Mr. Germano, I strongly urge you to take my letter with the utmost
  > seriousness and to work with me and your other blind customers and
the NFB
  > to find resolutions to these issues.  Thank you very much.
  >
  > That is the end of the letter.  Thoughts?
  >
  > Note, my e-mail signature will not appear in the text of the letter.
  >
  >
  > Sincerely yours,
  > The Constantly Barefooted,
  > Ray
  > Home phone and fax:
  > (985)360-3375
  > E-mail:
  > rforetjratcomcastdotnet
  > Skype Name:
  > barefootedray
  >
  > God bless President George W. Bush!
  > God bless our troops!
  > and God bless America
  >
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