[Blindtlk] Air travel tips/ JAWS
Sean Moore
linkstarwind at cox.net
Mon Apr 7 12:15:09 CDT 2008
Hmm more helpful stuff. Cool thanks again.
Ooh any one know where I can get a cheaper copy of JAWS for Window Vista? I've been using Minute Demo and its driving me I can't use te PC well and ZoomText and NVDA isn't cutting it any more for me lately.
Yours,
Sean Moore
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3. Re: Subject: Re: Air travel tips (Julie J.)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:50:54 -0500
From: "Julie J." <jlcrane at alltel.net>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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You are very welcome! My best advice is to figure out what help you want,
if any, and ask for what you want very specifically. If you need directions
then ask specific questions like, "what gate is this?" or "could you tell me
if United flight 1234 is still scheduled to leave gate 14 at 1:30?" You
will get the information/help you want with minimal problems. If you feel
that what you need is for an employee to assist you then ask for that.
But don't feel like you have to do what everyone else does or that there is
just one way to manage the situation effectively. Do what is right for you.
Here's my understanding about the airline rules in regard to canes. If I am
incorrect here please someone clarify. thanks!
At the security checkpoint, they will need to scan your cane, but you should
immediately get it back. You should not have to go anywhere without your
cane.
Once on the plane your cane should remain with you, out of the way of the
aisle.
Like someone else suggested, having all the information you can in an
accessible format ahead of time is a very good idea.
If you are flying into DFW airport once you get off the plane, you just go
straight ahead to pick up your bags from the carousel. then continue
further straight ahead to the exit doors. There are a variety of shuttles
and cabs at the curb. the hotel where the convention is held has a shuttle
that costs something like $20. I have no idea how much a cab is, but I
would venture a guess that it is more than $20. If you are flying in on the
28th you are likely to find many, many other blind people at the airport
also headed to the convention.
I hope to see you there!
Julie
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From: "Sean Moore" <linkstarwind at cox.net>
To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
Yes its my first flying, on my own 'as a blind person', before I used the
cane. Really I want as much tips as I can get, to know how to handle stuff.
I've heard to may 'horror story' about airtravel from my friends who fly
alot.
Oh any tips on how to deal with my mom? She keeps saying "Oh get help TO and
FROM the plane, you know you can't find a taxi when you et the to front."
Etc.
Again thanks
Julie and all.
Yours,
Sean Moore
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E-Mail: linkstarwind at cox.net
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:44:25 -0700
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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Julie,
Regarding canes.. The rules combine in odd ways. They need to x-ray a
rigid cane (but not necessarily a folding or telescopic cane), they cannot
pass anything back to you outside the checkpoint, and you cannot be
expected to go anywhere without your cane.
One of these things has got to give. If your cane crosses the checkpoint
without you, either you must get through the checkpoint without it or they
must send it past the checkpoint the other direction. I simply will not
accept being manhandled like a piece of luggage, so the cane must be
returned to me before I cross the checkpoint. I generally must explain
this to them every time I'm at the airport--politely of course.
I unfortunately cannot attend convention this year. I have three six-week
summer courses happening at the same time. It just cannot be reasonably
done. The person who decided to cram 11 week courses into 6 should be
shot IMO. The need to take these courses over the summer at the only
times they are offered took me out of the running for an NFB scholarship
for the second year in a row. *frown* Of course this is only an irritant
because I've got just enough ego to believe I would've been likely to
actually win one, and because I enjoyed the 2006 convention. *grin*
Joseph
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:50:54AM -0500, Julie J. wrote:
> You are very welcome! My best advice is to figure out what help you want,
> if any, and ask for what you want very specifically. If you need directions
> then ask specific questions like, "what gate is this?" or "could you tell me
> if United flight 1234 is still scheduled to leave gate 14 at 1:30?" You
> will get the information/help you want with minimal problems. If you feel
> that what you need is for an employee to assist you then ask for that.
> But don't feel like you have to do what everyone else does or that there is
> just one way to manage the situation effectively. Do what is right for you.
>
> Here's my understanding about the airline rules in regard to canes. If I am
> incorrect here please someone clarify. thanks!
> At the security checkpoint, they will need to scan your cane, but you should
> immediately get it back. You should not have to go anywhere without your
> cane.
> Once on the plane your cane should remain with you, out of the way of the
> aisle.
>
> Like someone else suggested, having all the information you can in an
> accessible format ahead of time is a very good idea.
>
> If you are flying into DFW airport once you get off the plane, you just go
> straight ahead to pick up your bags from the carousel. then continue
> further straight ahead to the exit doors. There are a variety of shuttles
> and cabs at the curb. the hotel where the convention is held has a shuttle
> that costs something like $20. I have no idea how much a cab is, but I
> would venture a guess that it is more than $20. If you are flying in on the
> 28th you are likely to find many, many other blind people at the airport
> also headed to the convention.
>
> I hope to see you there!
>
> Julie
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:11:13 -0500
From: "Julie J." <jlcrane at alltel.net>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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Hmmm...Well, why does that not surprise me? LOL
My experience with my rigid cane has been that they run it through the
conveyor belt thing, where your purse, shoes and other junk goes, and then
they hand it back to me. I proceed through metal detector with cane in
hand. So I guess they are violating their rule about passing things
backwards through security.
I have this thing about being separated from my cane and this experience I
have had through security has been fine by me. they need to ensure that
passengers are not smuggling stuff they shouldn't on the plane. I'm not
delusional enough to think that a blind person is exempt from illegal
activity or that terrorist couldn't fake being blind in order to get illegal
stuff on the plane.
Overall I've had mainly very good experiences flying. There have been a
couple of times things didn't go so well, but I straightened that out and
learned from my mistakes. *smile*
Have fun with summer classes. I took a few of those and you are right,
whoever thought that sitting in class for 3 to 4 hours per day and then
going home to do a couple more hours of study/homework is a good idea has
some serious issues. LOL
Julie
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
> Julie,
>
> Regarding canes.. The rules combine in odd ways. They need to x-ray a
> rigid cane (but not necessarily a folding or telescopic cane), they cannot
> pass anything back to you outside the checkpoint, and you cannot be
> expected to go anywhere without your cane.
>
> One of these things has got to give. If your cane crosses the checkpoint
> without you, either you must get through the checkpoint without it or they
> must send it past the checkpoint the other direction. I simply will not
> accept being manhandled like a piece of luggage, so the cane must be
> returned to me before I cross the checkpoint. I generally must explain
> this to them every time I'm at the airport--politely of course.
>
> I unfortunately cannot attend convention this year. I have three six-week
> summer courses happening at the same time. It just cannot be reasonably
> done. The person who decided to cram 11 week courses into 6 should be
> shot IMO. The need to take these courses over the summer at the only
> times they are offered took me out of the running for an NFB scholarship
> for the second year in a row. *frown* Of course this is only an irritant
> because I've got just enough ego to believe I would've been likely to
> actually win one, and because I enjoyed the 2006 convention. *grin*
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:50:54AM -0500, Julie J. wrote:
>> You are very welcome! My best advice is to figure out what help you
>> want,
>> if any, and ask for what you want very specifically. If you need
>> directions
>> then ask specific questions like, "what gate is this?" or "could you tell
>> me
>> if United flight 1234 is still scheduled to leave gate 14 at 1:30?" You
>> will get the information/help you want with minimal problems. If you feel
>> that what you need is for an employee to assist you then ask for that.
>> But don't feel like you have to do what everyone else does or that there
>> is
>> just one way to manage the situation effectively. Do what is right for
>> you.
>>
>> Here's my understanding about the airline rules in regard to canes. If I
>> am
>> incorrect here please someone clarify. thanks!
>> At the security checkpoint, they will need to scan your cane, but you
>> should
>> immediately get it back. You should not have to go anywhere without
>> your
>> cane.
>> Once on the plane your cane should remain with you, out of the way of the
>> aisle.
>>
>> Like someone else suggested, having all the information you can in an
>> accessible format ahead of time is a very good idea.
>>
>> If you are flying into DFW airport once you get off the plane, you just
>> go
>> straight ahead to pick up your bags from the carousel. then continue
>> further straight ahead to the exit doors. There are a variety of
>> shuttles
>> and cabs at the curb. the hotel where the convention is held has a
>> shuttle
>> that costs something like $20. I have no idea how much a cab is, but I
>> would venture a guess that it is more than $20. If you are flying in on
>> the
>> 28th you are likely to find many, many other blind people at the airport
>> also headed to the convention.
>>
>> I hope to see you there!
>>
>> Julie
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Hmm more helpful stuff. Cool thanks again.
Ooh any one know where I can get a cheaper copy of JAWS for Window Vista? I've been using Minute Demo and its driving me I can't use te PC well and ZoomText and NVDA isn't cutting it any more for me lately.
Yours,
Sean Moore
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:50:54 -0500
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You are very welcome! My best advice is to figure out what help you want,
if any, and ask for what you want very specifically. If you need directions
then ask specific questions like, "what gate is this?" or "could you tell me
if United flight 1234 is still scheduled to leave gate 14 at 1:30?" You
will get the information/help you want with minimal problems. If you feel
that what you need is for an employee to assist you then ask for that.
But don't feel like you have to do what everyone else does or that there is
just one way to manage the situation effectively. Do what is right for you.
Here's my understanding about the airline rules in regard to canes. If I am
incorrect here please someone clarify. thanks!
At the security checkpoint, they will need to scan your cane, but you should
immediately get it back. You should not have to go anywhere without your
cane.
Once on the plane your cane should remain with you, out of the way of the
aisle.
Like someone else suggested, having all the information you can in an
accessible format ahead of time is a very good idea.
If you are flying into DFW airport once you get off the plane, you just go
straight ahead to pick up your bags from the carousel. then continue
further straight ahead to the exit doors. There are a variety of shuttles
and cabs at the curb. the hotel where the convention is held has a shuttle
that costs something like $20. I have no idea how much a cab is, but I
would venture a guess that it is more than $20. If you are flying in on the
28th you are likely to find many, many other blind people at the airport
also headed to the convention.
I hope to see you there!
Julie
----- Original Message -----
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>
To: < mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
Yes its my first flying, on my own 'as a blind person', before I used the
cane. Really I want as much tips as I can get, to know how to handle stuff.
I've heard to may 'horror story' about airtravel from my friends who fly
alot.
Oh any tips on how to deal with my mom? She keeps saying "Oh get help TO and
FROM the plane, you know you can't find a taxi when you et the to front."
Etc.
Again thanks
Julie and all.
Yours,
Sean Moore
Contact information
Cell: (478) 258-4103
E-Mail: mailto:linkstarwind at cox.net linkstarwind at cox.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:44:25 -0700
From: "T. Joseph Carter" < mailto:tjosephcarter at gmail.com tjosephcarter at gmail.com
>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
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Julie,
Regarding canes.. The rules combine in odd ways. They need to x-ray a
rigid cane (but not necessarily a folding or telescopic cane), they cannot
pass anything back to you outside the checkpoint, and you cannot be
expected to go anywhere without your cane.
One of these things has got to give. If your cane crosses the checkpoint
without you, either you must get through the checkpoint without it or they
must send it past the checkpoint the other direction. I simply will not
accept being manhandled like a piece of luggage, so the cane must be
returned to me before I cross the checkpoint. I generally must explain
this to them every time I'm at the airport--politely of course.
I unfortunately cannot attend convention this year. I have three six-week
summer courses happening at the same time. It just cannot be reasonably
done. The person who decided to cram 11 week courses into 6 should be
shot IMO. The need to take these courses over the summer at the only
times they are offered took me out of the running for an NFB scholarship
for the second year in a row. *frown* Of course this is only an irritant
because I've got just enough ego to believe I would've been likely to
actually win one, and because I enjoyed the 2006 convention. *grin*
Joseph
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:50:54AM -0500, Julie J. wrote:
> You are very welcome! My best advice is to figure out what help you want,
> if any, and ask for what you want very specifically. If you need directions
> then ask specific questions like, "what gate is this?" or "could you tell me
> if United flight 1234 is still scheduled to leave gate 14 at 1:30?" You
> will get the information/help you want with minimal problems. If you feel
> that what you need is for an employee to assist you then ask for that.
> But don't feel like you have to do what everyone else does or that there is
> just one way to manage the situation effectively. Do what is right for you.
>
> Here's my understanding about the airline rules in regard to canes. If I am
> incorrect here please someone clarify. thanks!
> At the security checkpoint, they will need to scan your cane, but you should
> immediately get it back. You should not have to go anywhere without your
> cane.
> Once on the plane your cane should remain with you, out of the way of the
> aisle.
>
> Like someone else suggested, having all the information you can in an
> accessible format ahead of time is a very good idea.
>
> If you are flying into DFW airport once you get off the plane, you just go
> straight ahead to pick up your bags from the carousel. then continue
> further straight ahead to the exit doors. There are a variety of shuttles
> and cabs at the curb. the hotel where the convention is held has a shuttle
> that costs something like $20. I have no idea how much a cab is, but I
> would venture a guess that it is more than $20. If you are flying in on the
> 28th you are likely to find many, many other blind people at the airport
> also headed to the convention.
>
> I hope to see you there!
>
> Julie
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:11:13 -0500
From: "Julie J." < mailto:jlcrane at alltel.net jlcrane at alltel.net
>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" < mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>
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Hmmm...Well, why does that not surprise me? LOL
My experience with my rigid cane has been that they run it through the
conveyor belt thing, where your purse, shoes and other junk goes, and then
they hand it back to me. I proceed through metal detector with cane in
hand. So I guess they are violating their rule about passing things
backwards through security.
I have this thing about being separated from my cane and this experience I
have had through security has been fine by me. they need to ensure that
passengers are not smuggling stuff they shouldn't on the plane. I'm not
delusional enough to think that a blind person is exempt from illegal
activity or that terrorist couldn't fake being blind in order to get illegal
stuff on the plane.
Overall I've had mainly very good experiences flying. There have been a
couple of times things didn't go so well, but I straightened that out and
learned from my mistakes. *smile*
Have fun with summer classes. I took a few of those and you are right,
whoever thought that sitting in class for 3 to 4 hours per day and then
going home to do a couple more hours of study/homework is a good idea has
some serious issues. LOL
Julie
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Joseph Carter" < mailto:tjosephcarter at gmail.com tjosephcarter at gmail.com
>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" < mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Subject: Re: Air travel tips
> Julie,
>
> Regarding canes.. The rules combine in odd ways. They need to x-ray a
> rigid cane (but not necessarily a folding or telescopic cane), they cannot
> pass anything back to you outside the checkpoint, and you cannot be
> expected to go anywhere without your cane.
>
> One of these things has got to give. If your cane crosses the checkpoint
> without you, either you must get through the checkpoint without it or they
> must send it past the checkpoint the other direction. I simply will not
> accept being manhandled like a piece of luggage, so the cane must be
> returned to me before I cross the checkpoint. I generally must explain
> this to them every time I'm at the airport--politely of course.
>
> I unfortunately cannot attend convention this year. I have three six-week
> summer courses happening at the same time. It just cannot be reasonably
> done. The person who decided to cram 11 week courses into 6 should be
> shot IMO. The need to take these courses over the summer at the only
> times they are offered took me out of the running for an NFB scholarship
> for the second year in a row. *frown* Of course this is only an irritant
> because I've got just enough ego to believe I would've been likely to
> actually win one, and because I enjoyed the 2006 convention. *grin*
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:50:54AM -0500, Julie J. wrote:
>> You are very welcome! My best advice is to figure out what help you
>> want,
>> if any, and ask for what you want very specifically. If you need
>> directions
>> then ask specific questions like, "what gate is this?" or "could you tell
>> me
>> if United flight 1234 is still scheduled to leave gate 14 at 1:30?" You
>> will get the information/help you want with minimal problems. If you feel
>> that what you need is for an employee to assist you then ask for that.
>> But don't feel like you have to do what everyone else does or that there
>> is
>> just one way to manage the situation effectively. Do what is right for
>> you.
>>
>> Here's my understanding about the airline rules in regard to canes. If I
>> am
>> incorrect here please someone clarify. thanks!
>> At the security checkpoint, they will need to scan your cane, but you
>> should
>> immediately get it back. You should not have to go anywhere without
>> your
>> cane.
>> Once on the plane your cane should remain with you, out of the way of the
>> aisle.
>>
>> Like someone else suggested, having all the information you can in an
>> accessible format ahead of time is a very good idea.
>>
>> If you are flying into DFW airport once you get off the plane, you just
>> go
>> straight ahead to pick up your bags from the carousel. then continue
>> further straight ahead to the exit doors. There are a variety of
>> shuttles
>> and cabs at the curb. the hotel where the convention is held has a
>> shuttle
>> that costs something like $20. I have no idea how much a cab is, but I
>> would venture a guess that it is more than $20. If you are flying in on
>> the
>> 28th you are likely to find many, many other blind people at the airport
>> also headed to the convention.
>>
>> I hope to see you there!
>>
>> Julie
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