[Blindtlk] Blindness and the crayon box
Aziza
acwaterreader09 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 4 23:31:55 CDT 2007
This Z from Oxnard, and I'm totally blind. I'm fifteen, and I have three
nephews. The two older ones often spit out remarks that later they realize
weren't very nice, r necessarly true. The yungest, is still to little to
even say hurtful things, even if he wanted to. Andrew is the offender
usually. When a new person enters our household for a vist, my lovely nine
year old nephew makes sure to tell the newcomer in the most disgusted voice
ever, "She's blind," I do get upset obviously, especially at the tone of
voice used to introduce my difference. Often I've taken Andrew aside, and
tried to explain to him that it shouldn't be introduced as something bad,
and that is my responsibility o tell people about what and who I am. But,
what I've gained from watching, or not watching my two oldest nephews grow
up, is that although they know I'm blind, and what I can and can't do, when
something new presents itself for me to handle or deal with, they are
doubtful that I can manage it without being shown or helped the first couple
of times. I have learned to accept the help, and think of it, at least from
them as their way of caring. Children can often say things that don't make
sense, but that hurt, but they usually don't mean them to hurt you they way
they do. I don't punish my nephews for making me feel bad, nor do I let my
mom or their mom's for that mater punish them. I take them aside and explain
to them what they have said or done to offend me, and I explain how I
understood the offensive act of conduct or remark, and then I show them just
how wrong they were to do or say such a thing. After this, I ask them to
restate their comment to the newcomer, or however's around to show that I am
capable of doing what they said I wasn't. Children are always learning, and
whether we can see or not we need to contribute to that, even if we're
hurting sometimes.
Z
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> 3. Rehab Supervisor Minnesota (David Andrews)
> 4. Re: Fwd: Testing the senses (Kasondra Payne)
> 5. blindness and the crayon box (Kasondra Payne)
> 6. some clarification on my previous story (Kasondra Payne)
> 7. Re: Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen (seville allen)
> 8. Re: Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen (Cindy Handel)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:20:17 -0400
> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen
> To: "Blind Talk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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> I haven't been in touch with Judy for quite awhile, but would like to
> contact her to ask a question. If anyone can let her know, you may give
> her
> my email address:
>
> cindy425 at verizon.net
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> "Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
> Abraham Lincoln
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:04:46 -0500
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Fwd: Testing the senses
> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org, blindtlk at nfbnet.org, mn-abs at nfbnet.org,
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org, rehab at nfbnet.org
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>
>>>>> Janice Bailey 8/28/2007 9:52 AM
>
>
>
>>Testing the senses
>>For people learning to live without sight, the State Fair's cacophony of
>>sounds and smells offers valuable practice at navigating through the
>>noise. Of
>>course, it's also a fun place to scout for cheese curds.
>>BY JOHN BREWER
>>Pioneer Press
>>Article Last Updated: 08/28/2007 12:26:35 AM CDT
>>
>>0826/20070826__jmp__blind_state_fair090_300
>>Fairgoers, from left, Helen Stevens, of Gouldsboro, Pa., and Dan Everson,
>>Zach Ellingson and Ryan Willms, all of Minneapolis, spend Friday at the
>>State
>>Fair. All four are blind. Navigating the Fair is promoted as an "adventure
>>learning" exercise by teh Minneapolis group BLIND Inc. (Jean Pieri,
>>Pioneer
>>Press) (8/24/07)
>>
>>The four threaded their way through the crowd at Nelson Street and Carnes
>>Avenue on the Fairgrounds, their white canes feeling out a clear path in
>>front
>>of them.
>>
>>Instructor Steve Decker took the lead, with two women - wearing thick,
>>padded sleep shades over their eyes - close behind.
>>
>>Zach Ellingson, another instructor from BLIND Inc., walked alongside.
>>
>>Fairgoers either paused to look at the group or didn't notice, their eyes
>>searching out the next food booth.
>>
>>"We'd rather have people stop and ask what we're doing if they're
>>curious," Decker said. "We don't have any problem asking people how to get
>>to the corn
>>dogs."
>>
>>Everybody in the group is legally blind. Three of them have partial sight,
>>but the point of this "adventure learning" exercise was to ignore that
>>sense
>>and instead rely on the sounds, sensations and smells of the Fairgrounds.
>>
>>"Some people have enough partial sight to get them in trouble," said Tonja
>>Glass, one of the shade-wearing women.
>>
>>This is Glass' third week at BLIND Inc. (short for "Blindness: Learning in
>>New Dimensions"), a school housed in the Charles Pillsbury mansion in
>>Minneapolis.
>>Founded in 1986, the school helps newly blind or soon-to-be-blind students
>>adjust to a world without sight instead of focusing on their loss.
>>
>>Glass, a former truck driver, started losing her vision a year and a half
>>ago when a medical complication cut off blood to her optic nerves. She
>>plans to
>>go into education when she graduates from
>>Advertisement
>>the school in six to eight months.
>>
>>Her trip to the Fair marked her first day riding the bus while wearing the
>>sleep shades.
>>
>>"I learned to always use the railings," she said. "In some ways (the
>>training's) fun. You can get in trouble and laugh at yourself."
>>
>>Ellingson, the school's instructor of orientation, mobility and travel,
>>said the Fair is a unique test to navigate.
>>
>>"There's a lot of noise that can be challenging," he said.
>>
>>As they walked west on Carnes Avenue, the din from the Midway grew louder.
>>The music and voices of barkers bounced off buildings, making it hard to
>>hear
>>where the sound was coming from.
>>
>>But the layers of noise can also be useful.
>>
>>Ellingson knew the group was close to the WCCO-TV booth when he heard the
>>broadcast of "The Price is Right."
>>
>>The bright sun was a cue, too, its warm rays working as a sort of compass.
>>
>>"This is one of the busiest places," Ellingson said. "Going downtown and
>>catching a movie is a piece of cake after this."
>>
>>Linda Musel, the other student, soon will graduate from the school after
>>being there a year. The former factory worker has trained to work in an
>>Austin
>>nursing home's laundry room.
>>
>>"I'm quite excited," she said.
>>
>>The group arrived at the Fair at about 10 a.m. Friday. They planned to
>>work their way through the growing crowds until late in the afternoon.
>>
>>But the day wasn't all about work.
>>
>>"We're on a quest to find cheese curds," said Decker, who teaches
>>assistive technology at the school. "Sometimes you learn more when you're
>>exploring."
>>
>>The journey fit perfectly with BLIND Inc.'s teaching techniques, he added.
>>Instead of learning about navigation by working in an isolated building,
>>students
>>have to experience lessons in the community. Most live in apartments and
>>take buses to class.
>>
>>"It helps them to be prepared for anything," Decker said. "You really have
>>to be immersed in it if you really want to master the skills."
>>
>>John Brewer can be reached at 651-246-2539 or
>><mailto:jbrewer at pioneerpress.com>jbrewer at pioneerpress.com .
>>
>>HELP AT THE FAIR
>>
>>A Braille map of the Fairgrounds is available for reference at the Guest
>>Services office in the Visitors Plaza at Dan Patch Avenue and Underwood
>>Street.
>>Other accommodations include: wheelchair and electric scooter rentals are
>>available; some shows and barn tours have American Sign Language
>>interpreters,
>>and interpreters are available for individual guests; assistive listening
>>devices are provided at Grandstand events; and several TTY telephones are
>>on
>>the grounds. The Fair's accessibility guide is available at
>><http://www.mnstatefair.org/>www.mnstatefair.org .
>>
>>More information on BLIND, Inc. is available at
>>blindinc.org.
>>or by calling 612-872-0100.
>>
>>
>>Jan Bailey
>>State Services for the Blind
>>Rochester, Minnesota 55904
>>phone: 507-280-5563 or 1-800-657-3836
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:20:20 -0500
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Rehab Supervisor Minnesota
> To: rehab at nfbnet.org, jobs at nfbnet.org, humanser at nfbnet.org,
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org, nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
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>>
>>>>> Pam Brown 8/29/2007 1:30 PM >>>
>>Hi Dave,
>>Here's the posting for the Supervisor position. I would appreciate you
>>circulating it far and wide. Thanks!
>>
>>Minnesota Services for the Blind is hiring a Regional Supervisor in their
>>WorkForce Development (Vocational Rehabilitation) Unit. The full posting,
>>including application guidelines, can be found at
>><http://www.doer.state.mn.us/>www.doer.state.mn.us reference posting
>>number 07DEED000183.
>>
>>To summarize the job duties and qualifications: This position supervises
>>staff and service plans in a large geographic area of the state. Supervise
>>the delivery of Rehabilitation Services in the WorkForce Development Unit
>>for persons who are blind, visually impaired or DeafBlind. Travel
>>required.
>>
>>Responsible for supervising services which include: vocational
>>rehabilitation, adjustment to blindness, vocational evaluation, employer
>>relations, job placement, assistive technology for the workplace.
>>Supervise professional counseling staff. Prepare and manage both case
>>service and administrative budgets; compliance with state and federal
>>regulations, staff development, monitor service quality. Build employer
>>relations and implement and monitor a continuous improvement measurement
>>system with the region.
>>
>>Minimum Qualifications: To qualify for consideration, you must have two
>>years of advanced professional rehabilitation counseling, rehabilitation
>>program administration, or rehabilitation supervisory experience. Must
>>possess a Masters Degree in Vocational Rehabilitation or closely related
>>degree.(e.g., Rehabilitation Teaching, Employment/Placement Counseling,
>>Counseling and Guidance, Educational Psychology). Experience working with
>>individuals who are blind, visually impaired or DeafBlind preferred.
>>
>>
>>
>>Pam Brown, Director
>>WorkForce Development
>>State Services for the Blind
>>651-642-0793
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:55:07 -0600
> From: "Kasondra Payne" <Kassyp36 at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: Testing the senses
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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> Dave,
>
> Thank you for sending this out. I got quite nostalgic reading this.
>
> Kasondra Payne
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:08:50 -0600
> From: "Kasondra Payne" <Kassyp36 at msn.com>
> Subject: [Blindtlk] blindness and the crayon box
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindtlk at nfbnet.org, "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for
> parents of blind children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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> The story I about to tell is totally true. I am not changing names
> because
> there is no need to protect the guilty. There are witnesses to thisevent
> including another blind friend that I was talking to on the phone.
>
>
>
> Yesterday my family returned from an shopping excursion, and we were
> examining all our purchases while I talked on the phone. We had purchased
> a
> new plastic box for all our crayons. We wanted to separate the crayons
> from
> the markers. My oldest son, Jacob, was having a hard time closing the new
> box. He asked his father to help him shut it, but my husband, Shawn was
> busy with another new purchase. I volunteered to help Jacob. What
> happened
> next was completely unexpected and unwelcome.
>
>
>
> Jacob shouted, ?Mommy, you can?t do that because you?re blind!?
>
>
>
> The room fell silent for a moment. Then my friend asked me to verify what
> Jacob had said. At the same time, Shawn jumped into action. He took
> Jacob,
> and firmly told him that blind people can do anything, and if he ever said
> anything like that again, he wouldn?t be able to sit down for at least a
> week.
>
>
>
> Jacob did apologize to me, but I think this is the first time my son has
> ever verbally tried to use my blindness against me. I guess I knew it
> would
> happen sometime, but I never thought about it. Jacob has always known
> blind
> people, and he has never shown resistance to any of them. Jacob knows
> that
> his mom, brother, and sister are blind. He tries to explain it to other
> people. He knows about Braille, canes, and computers that talk. This is
> just a hard situation for me to digest.
>
>
>
> By the way, I did show all the kids how to close the latch on the new
> crayon
> box. And just in case you think that Jacob restricts his barbs to topics
> related to blindness, later in the day he asked Shawn why he was fat?
> That
> is another discussion for another day.
>
>
>
> Kasondra Payne
>
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> The story I about to tell is totally true. ?I am not changing names
> because there is no need to protect the guilty. ?There are witnesses to
> thisevent including another blind friend that I was talking to on the
> phone.?
> ?
> Yesterday my family returned from an shopping excursion, and we were
> examining all our purchases while I talked on the phone. ?We had purchased
> a new plastic box for all our crayons.? We wanted to separate the crayons
> from the markers.? My oldest son, Jacob, was having a hard time closing
> the new box. ?He asked his father to help him shut it, but my husband,
> Shawn was busy with another new purchase.? I volunteered to help Jacob.
> ?What happened next was completely unexpected and unwelcome.?
> ?
> Jacob shouted, “Mommy, you can’t do that because you’re
> blind!”
> ?
> The room fell silent for a moment. ?Then my friend asked me to verify what
> Jacob had said.? At the same time, Shawn jumped into action.? He took
> Jacob, and firmly told him that blind people can do anything, and if he
> ever said anything like that again, he wouldn’t be able to sit down
> for at least a week.?
> ?
> Jacob did apologize to me, but I think this is the first time my son has
> ever verbally tried to use my blindness against me.? I guess I knew it
> would happen sometime, but I never thought about it.? Jacob has always
> known blind people, and he has never shown resistance to any of them.?
> Jacob knows that his mom, brother, and sister are blind.? He tries to
> explain it to other people.? He knows about Braille, canes, and computers
> that talk.? This is just a hard situation for me to digest. ?
> ?
> By the way, I did show all the kids how to close the latch on the new
> crayon box.? And just in case you think that Jacob restricts his barbs to
> topics related to blindness, later in the day he asked Shawn why he was
> fat?? That is another discussion for another day.?
> ?
> Kasondra Payne
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:57:15 -0600
> From: "Kasondra Payne" <Kassyp36 at msn.com>
> Subject: [Blindtlk] some clarification on my previous story
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>,
> "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)'"
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> In case any of you think that my husband was the only one to handle
> Jacob?s
> barb about my blindness, I had taken the box and was showing him how to
> work
> it while Shawn was defending me verbally. It was important to me that
> Shawn?s words back up my consistent independent action. The two-pronged
> approach often works best with my kids. Also Jacob is going through a
> phase
> where he says anything just to hear himself talk. What he said in this
> context was just the last thing I thought I would hear.
>
>
>
> Kasondra Payne
>
>
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> In case any of you think that my husband was the only one to handle
> Jacob’s barb about my blindness, I had taken the box and was showing
> him how to work it while Shawn was defending me verbally. ?It was
> important to me that Shawn’s words back up my consistent independent
> action.? The two-pronged approach often works best with my kids. ?Also
> Jacob is going through a phase where he says anything just to hear himself
> talk.? What he said in this context was just the last thing I thought I
> would hear. ?
> ?
> Kasondra Payne
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:24:27 -0400
> From: "seville allen" <ceoallen at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <003401c7ee46$e8ff10e0$0301a8c0 at Allen>
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> I am forwarding your request to Judy.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Cindy Handel
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 5:20 PM
> To: Blind Talk
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen
>
> I haven't been in touch with Judy for quite awhile, but would like to
> contact her to ask a question. If anyone can let her know, you may give
> her
>
> my email address:
>
> cindy425 at verizon.net
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> "Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
> Abraham Lincoln
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:42:39 -0400
> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <00f501c7ee49$7116c750$6401a8c0 at Handel>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Thanks. Lloyd did, too.
>
> Cindy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "seville allen" <ceoallen at verizon.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen
>
>
> I am forwarding your request to Judy.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Cindy Handel
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 5:20 PM
> To: Blind Talk
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Would like to contact Judy Rasmussen
>
> I haven't been in touch with Judy for quite awhile, but would like to
> contact her to ask a question. If anyone can let her know, you may give
> her
>
> my email address:
>
> cindy425 at verizon.net
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> "Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
> Abraham Lincoln
>
>
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