[Blindtlk] Question about Web Braille

Thu Nov 22 21:01:43 CST 2007

Hi AC

Web braille is certainly not shutting down. Whatever site you might be using 
may be some auternative way to get to the real nls site, and may be 
experiencing technical glitches.

I just downloaded a book on the site

www.loc.gov/nls

to make sure that I read any and all messages displayed by NLS. I had no 
difficulty with opening web braille books, and only  had to get past the NLS 
agreement witch follows.

I hope this helps you, and goes to dispel any Web Braille myths.

Sincerely

Antonio Guimaraes

Please read and accept this pledge.

National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped 
Web-Braille Agreement

I understand and agree to the following:

The texts embodied in the braille and recorded materials supplied by the 
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library 
of Congress
are reproduced and distributed in specialized formats exclusively for use by 
blind and other persons with disabilities under the authority of 17 U.S.C.
section 121 or with permission of the copyright owner(s). Any further 
reproduction or distribution of the braille or recorded materials may 
constitute
infringement of copyright.

Use of Web-Braille materials is limited to eligible NLS readers and 
institutions. Access to Web-Braille outside the United States, except by 
eligible American
citizens, is not permitted. Web-Braille files or any files generated from 
them may not be distributed or sold under any circumstances. Transferring 
original
or modified Web-Braille files to anyone is prohibited.

User IDs and passwords may not be shared with anyone. The Library of 
Congress actively monitors the NLS system to protect against this, which 
includes maintaining
records of the identity of persons downloading materials from this web site.

Readers engaging in or facilitating further reproduction or distribution of 
Web-Braille materials may have their privileges under the National Library 
Service
program suspended or revoked, may be required to surrender the federal 
property in their possession, and may be subject to other penalties, 
including criminal
penalties, afforded under federal law.

Note to users: When this pledge appears after you have downloaded your 
selection, the back button on your browser will return you to the previous 
page.
In Internet Explorer, you can do this with the backspace key.

I Accept, Best for PC users
I Accept, Best for Notetaker users

I Do Not Accept

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aziza" <acwaterreader09 at gmail.com>
To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Question about Web Braille

> Hi guys,
> I was trying to log in to web braille and I got a message that it is being
> shut down. Does anyone know what happened? And, if it's true? If not, can
> anyone send me the real link for the loggin site, I may have been on the
> wrong site...
> Thanks, AC
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>>   1. Re: Victor Reader Stream question (David Andrews)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:14:46 -0600
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Victor Reader Stream question
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>> Yes, any off the shelf card should work.  If it is larger than 2
>> gigabytes it must be a High Capacity HCSD card.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 04:54 PM 11/20/2007, you wrote:
>>>Does anyone know if you can use any SD card with the Victor Reader 
>>>Stream?
>>>$35 seems a bit much for a SD card.  I would like to purchase the card
>>>from
>>>somewhere else for a much cheaper price, but I don't know if an "off the
>>>shelf" SD card will work.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance!
>>>Julie
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:53:34 -0600
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Braille reader research
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org, arizona-students at nfbnet.org,
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>>>
>>>  Braille reader research
>>>
>>> > This message is being sent on behalf of Dr. Terri Hedhpeth, Arizona
>>> > State
>>> > University.
>>>
>>> > Hello all,
>>>
>>> > Terri Hedgpeth here. We have a visiting professor from New Zealand who
>>> > is
>>> > doing some exciting research on how Braille readers read Braille.
>>> > This is exciting
>>> > because there is the potential for this research to inform the manner
>>> > in
>>> > which Braille is taught, and how Braille literacy can be improved. I
>>> > hope
>>> > you will participate in his study. It isn't very often we have a 
>>> > chance
>>> > to
>>> > be a part in such exciting research. Feel free to share this with 
>>> > other
>>> > Braille readers. Also if interested, please be sure to contact Dr.
>>> > Hughes
>>> > in
>>> > the next week or so, so he can schedule you in. Please read Dr.
>>> > Hughes's
>>> > message below.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Research on Braille reading
>>> >
>>> > I am Dr Barry Hughes, a research scholar in the Department of
>>> > Kinesiology
>>> > at
>>> > Arizona State University visiting from the University of Auckland in
>>> > New
>>> > Zealand.
>>> > I have done research in collaboration with blind people for over 20
>>> > years,
>>> > both in US and in New Zealand. I am working with two experienced
>>> > scientists
>>> > here: Professor George Stelmach and Associate Research Professor Arend
>>> > Van
>>> > Gemmert.
>>> >
>>> > We are conducting a research study to investigate some important
>>> > aspects
>>> > how
>>> > your fingers and brain work together during Braille reading. We are
>>> > planning
>>> > a series of studies to study this coordination between fingers and
>>> > brain
>>> > in
>>> > the hope of better understanding how it works and then developing 
>>> > ideas
>>> > for
>>> > how to improve its teaching and learning.
>>> >
>>> > I am recruiting individuals to take part in one or more studies (up to
>>> > 6
>>> > maximum) which will take no more than 90 minutes per study. In
>>> > compensation
>>> > for your time, we will pay you $25 cash per study. We will arrange for
>>> > transportation to and from the university's main Tempe campus if you
>>> > require
>>> > it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The research will involve you reading sample Braille text of various
>>> > lengths
>>> > comprising words of greater or lesser familiarity. We will be 
>>> > measuring
>>> > the
>>> > position of your dominant reading finger and its speed as you read.
>>> > This is all. Later we will do some math on these recordings and see if
>>> > we
>>> > can learn something new about how your brain interprets the patterns 
>>> > at
>>> > your
>>> > fingerpad and controls how your reading finger moves.
>>> >
>>> > Your participation in this study is completely voluntary.
>>> >
>>> > There are several important criteria for participation:
>>> >
>>> > . You SHOULD BE 21 years or older
>>> > . You SHOULD be a good reader of Braille in English . You SHOULD NOT
>>> > have
>>> > any residual vision that permits you to read even large size text . 
>>> > You
>>> > SHOULD NOT have any impairments or disabilities other than a visual 
>>> > one
>>> >
>>> > These criteria are important for scientific purposes. If you fit these
>>> > criteria, we would like you to consider participating.
>>> >
>>> > If you are interested and would like more information concerning any
>>> > aspect
>>> > the research study, please contact me by either: emailing me at
>>> > barry.hughes at asu.edu or calling me anytime on my cell: (480) 334-5374
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Terri Hedgpeth
>>> >
>>> > Academic Research Professional
>>> >
>>> > Cubic, iCare box 87-8309
>>> >
>>> > Arizona State University
>>> >
>>> > Tempe, AZ 85287-8309
>>> >
>>> > (480) 727-8133 (voice)
>>> >
>>> > (480) 965-2751 (fax)
>>> >
>>> > http://cubic.asu.edu
>>
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