[Blindtlk] traveling

Mon Sep 18 19:33:10 CDT 2006

That depends on where you live and how you plan to get there.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling


> Thanks, and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but I want to visit NY. I don't
> live there.
>
> Thank you though, if there's anything you might be able to do to help me 
> out
> I do appreciate it.
>
> Jen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "davidandloristayer" <davidandloristayer at verizon.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>
>
>> Hi living in New York I have already asked our president to ascertain
>> whether this person can become known to us so we can help.  As a long 
>> time
>> Federation member in New York State I am willing tohelp if necessary.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>
>>
>>> IMO while everything that has been said here is valid, I believe that we
>>> must be a bit cautious. We may not know the whole story here. Rather
>>> than immediately pushing for Jen to go to one of our centers or having a
>>> knock-down-drag-out with her parents, it seems to me far more preferable
>>> to put her in touch with local NFB members in her area who will be in a
>>> better position to judge what needs to be done and who can encourage her
>>> and also show her parents by example that blind folks can be
>>> independent.
>>>
>>> For instance, Jen says she is a client of a DD agency. Why? Is she a c
>>> client of the New York Commission for the Blind? If not, why not?
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman, President
>>>  NFB of Washington
>>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Alan Wheeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hate to say it, but Peter has a valid point.  What he describes is a
>>>> frighteningly real possibility.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "Bonnie Ainsworth" <cedarwoman1965 at neb.rr.com>; "NFBnet Blind Talk
>>>> Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jenn, Bonnie and listers,
>>>>>
>>>>>    There's possibly a more sinister reason for her parents wanting to
>>>>> keep
>>>>> her under their thumb besides her blindness. If Jen's parents receive
>>>>> Social
>>>>> Security benefits for providing her a place to live they know that if
>>>>> she
>>>>> moves out they'll lose that income. All I have to say about that
>>>>> blarney
>>>>> is
>>>>> tough! It's unfair, and is an illegal form of exploitation of the 
>>>>> worst
>>>>> kind!When my dad retired I became eligible for SSDI Benefits. In
>>>>> addition
>>>>> mom and dad also received a monthly check when I lived at home.
>>>>> Fortunately
>>>>> mom realized that while the income helped out with expenses it wasn't
>>>>> in
>>>>> her
>>>>> best interest to control my life by keeping  me at home and under her
>>>>> thumb
>>>>> and strongly encouraged me to move out in to a place of my own and
>>>>> gladly
>>>>> excepted the consequences of doing so I.E. the loss of those
>>>>> Dependent's
>>>>> Benefits. By the time I finally moved out for good dad had passed away
>>>>> so
>>>>> he
>>>>> was not able to stop her from doing this. I know other blind
>>>>> individuals
>>>>> who
>>>>> were manipulated and controlled by their parents the same way and
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> that the loss of Social Security Dependents Benefits in addition to
>>>>> their
>>>>> fears about blindness being a motivating factor for their behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Jenn I don't know all the particulars of your situation, but wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> throw that out as another possible reason for your parent's treating
>>>>> you
>>>>> that way. But if you're of age you have every right to up and leave
>>>>> whenever
>>>>> you want, and no one can stop you from going. Sometimes situations 
>>>>> like
>>>>> this
>>>>> can only be remedied with a little tough love. Mary and I have had to
>>>>> deal
>>>>> with similar treatment of us particularly by her parents, but they 
>>>>> know
>>>>> we
>>>>> don't hesitate to call them out whenever we feel they've over-stepped
>>>>> their
>>>>> bounds and have meddled in matters which are really none of their
>>>>> business.
>>>>> Know also that you have a federation family that stands ready to help
>>>>> you
>>>>> in
>>>>> whatever way we can to ensure that your future will be filled with
>>>>> promise,
>>>>> and free of your parents over-protection, and control of your life for
>>>>> their
>>>>> benefit. Yours in federationism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bonnie Ainsworth" <cedarwoman1965 at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jen,
>>>>>
>>>>> How old are you?  Once you're over eighteen, you're legally an adult
>>>>> and
>>>>> they can't try to stop you from living your life.  Sounds like they're
>>>>> afraid to let you out of the house because of your blindness?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bonnie Ainsworth
>>>>> Lincoln, NE USA
>>>>>
>>>>> Access denied ... nah nah na nah nah !
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>>> To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; <community at nfbri.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question or perhaps many questions...maybe even issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the situation:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to take a trip to New York; around the Syracuse area. I
>>>>> could
>>>>> sneak out of the house, take the Ride bus to the airport and fly 
>>>>> there,
>>>>> but
>>>>> then I would get my parents all upset, and they would never trust me
>>>>> again.
>>>>> Plus, once I got there I could take a cab to the hotel, but then what?
>>>>> The
>>>>> only way I can go anywhere is if I go with a friend...I mean that's 
>>>>> the
>>>>> only
>>>>> way I could go without causing an up-roar, but I don't have any 
>>>>> friends
>>>>> who
>>>>> I can travel with, and even if I did, that's a really lousy reason to
>>>>> invite
>>>>> them to come along.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way I can get out of my parents' control over me? Is 
>>>>> there
>>>>> any
>>>>> way to do it legally without causing hurt feelings etc? I can't talk 
>>>>> to
>>>>> them. They don't want to hear it. I've tried.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just feel like I have to do something different, and I can't do
>>>>> anything;
>>>>> not as long as I'm here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jen
>>>>>
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