[Blindtlk] traveling

jaber37837 at cox.net jaber37837 at cox.net
Mon Sep 18 16:56:07 CDT 2006 

Thanks, and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but I want to visit NY. I don't 
live there.

Thank you though, if there's anything you might be able to do to help me out 
I do appreciate it.

Jen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "davidandloristayer" <davidandloristayer at verizon.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling


> Hi living in New York I have already asked our president to ascertain
> whether this person can become known to us so we can help.  As a long time
> Federation member in New York State I am willing tohelp if necessary.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>
>
>> IMO while everything that has been said here is valid, I believe that we
>> must be a bit cautious. We may not know the whole story here. Rather
>> than immediately pushing for Jen to go to one of our centers or having a
>> knock-down-drag-out with her parents, it seems to me far more preferable
>> to put her in touch with local NFB members in her area who will be in a
>> better position to judge what needs to be done and who can encourage her
>> and also show her parents by example that blind folks can be
>> independent.
>>
>> For instance, Jen says she is a client of a DD agency. Why? Is she a c
>> client of the New York Commission for the Blind? If not, why not?
>>
>> Mike Freeman, President
>>  NFB of Washington
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Alan Wheeler wrote:
>>
>>> I hate to say it, but Peter has a valid point.  What he describes is a
>>> frighteningly real possibility.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Bonnie Ainsworth" <cedarwoman1965 at neb.rr.com>; "NFBnet Blind Talk
>>> Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Jenn, Bonnie and listers,
>>>>
>>>>    There's possibly a more sinister reason for her parents wanting to
>>>> keep
>>>> her under their thumb besides her blindness. If Jen's parents receive
>>>> Social
>>>> Security benefits for providing her a place to live they know that if
>>>> she
>>>> moves out they'll lose that income. All I have to say about that 
>>>> blarney
>>>> is
>>>> tough! It's unfair, and is an illegal form of exploitation of the worst
>>>> kind!When my dad retired I became eligible for SSDI Benefits. In
>>>> addition
>>>> mom and dad also received a monthly check when I lived at home.
>>>> Fortunately
>>>> mom realized that while the income helped out with expenses it wasn't 
>>>> in
>>>> her
>>>> best interest to control my life by keeping  me at home and under her
>>>> thumb
>>>> and strongly encouraged me to move out in to a place of my own and
>>>> gladly
>>>> excepted the consequences of doing so I.E. the loss of those 
>>>> Dependent's
>>>> Benefits. By the time I finally moved out for good dad had passed away
>>>> so
>>>> he
>>>> was not able to stop her from doing this. I know other blind 
>>>> individuals
>>>> who
>>>> were manipulated and controlled by their parents the same way and
>>>> suspect
>>>> that the loss of Social Security Dependents Benefits in addition to
>>>> their
>>>> fears about blindness being a motivating factor for their behavior.
>>>>
>>>>    Jenn I don't know all the particulars of your situation, but wanted
>>>> to
>>>> throw that out as another possible reason for your parent's treating 
>>>> you
>>>> that way. But if you're of age you have every right to up and leave
>>>> whenever
>>>> you want, and no one can stop you from going. Sometimes situations like
>>>> this
>>>> can only be remedied with a little tough love. Mary and I have had to
>>>> deal
>>>> with similar treatment of us particularly by her parents, but they know
>>>> we
>>>> don't hesitate to call them out whenever we feel they've over-stepped
>>>> their
>>>> bounds and have meddled in matters which are really none of their
>>>> business.
>>>> Know also that you have a federation family that stands ready to help
>>>> you
>>>> in
>>>> whatever way we can to ensure that your future will be filled with
>>>> promise,
>>>> and free of your parents over-protection, and control of your life for
>>>> their
>>>> benefit. Yours in federationism.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bonnie Ainsworth" <cedarwoman1965 at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jen,
>>>>
>>>> How old are you?  Once you're over eighteen, you're legally an adult 
>>>> and
>>>> they can't try to stop you from living your life.  Sounds like they're
>>>> afraid to let you out of the house because of your blindness?
>>>>
>>>> Bonnie Ainsworth
>>>> Lincoln, NE USA
>>>>
>>>> Access denied ... nah nah na nah nah !
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>> To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; <community at nfbri.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:52 PM
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] traveling
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have a question or perhaps many questions...maybe even issues.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the situation:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to take a trip to New York; around the Syracuse area. I
>>>> could
>>>> sneak out of the house, take the Ride bus to the airport and fly there,
>>>> but
>>>> then I would get my parents all upset, and they would never trust me
>>>> again.
>>>> Plus, once I got there I could take a cab to the hotel, but then what?
>>>> The
>>>> only way I can go anywhere is if I go with a friend...I mean that's the
>>>> only
>>>> way I could go without causing an up-roar, but I don't have any friends
>>>> who
>>>> I can travel with, and even if I did, that's a really lousy reason to
>>>> invite
>>>> them to come along.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way I can get out of my parents' control over me? Is there
>>>> any
>>>> way to do it legally without causing hurt feelings etc? I can't talk to
>>>> them. They don't want to hear it. I've tried.
>>>>
>>>> I just feel like I have to do something different, and I can't do
>>>> anything;
>>>> not as long as I'm here.
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>>
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