[Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind

Judy Jones nfbwatac at earthlink.net
Fri Oct 6 10:48:03 CDT 2006 

Amen to that.

It's never good for women, sighted or blind to open themselves to situations 
not on neutral territory.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind


>I really think we need to be careful not to get hung up on this.  The fact 
>is, if the guy is a realter and he has a license, it doesn't change the 
>fact that meeting him at
> his house alone on the first date is not a good idea.  In my mind, finding 
> that he has a license would not change my thinking on that.  If he doesn't 
> have a license,
> then one has to know what he actually said.  If he said he owns his own 
> business and one can't find a trace of it, then one would wonder about his 
> truthfulness.
> However, if he said he works in real estate, he could be handling web 
> design for a listing service or any number of other jobs that don't 
> involve direct sales.  He
> could even be starting his own business but not have the paperwork done. 
> The point is, a neutral meeting place just makes complete sense.  If he 
> seems decent
> and nice on the phone and worth the effort, finding out more about his 
> business ahead of time is probably good to expose any tendency to be 
> completely untruthful,
> but finding he has an explanation or that he is exactly what he says he is 
> doesn't change my feeling that starting out at his house is not a good 
> idea.
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 06:25:51 -0700, Judy Jones wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>Cindy is right; if he is operating a business he has to have a license, 
>>they
>>call it a UBI, and she can find that through his city's tax and licensing
>>office.
>
>>Judy
>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
>>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>
>
>>> Could you not contact the board of Realtors in his area?  Surely, if he
>>> has
>>> a license, or not, the board of realtors in his area would be able to 
>>> look
>>> him up and tell you right off whether he has a license or not.  IF he 
>>> has
>>> a
>>> license, I suspect he'd have to be registered with the local board of
>>> realtors for his area.  I already hear all kinds of alarm bells going 
>>> off
>>> in
>>> my head about this fella.
>>>
>>> Sincerely yours,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted,
>>> Ray
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>>> God bless President George W. Bush!
>>> God bless our troops!
>>> and God bless America
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, if he sells real estate, he has to have a license.  If he doesn't
>>> have
>>> a license, then he's selling illegally or he isn't actually selling. 
>>> But,
>>> if he told you he has his own business, he'd have to have a license.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>
>>>
>>> I checked out the Department of State. No one by his name owns a Real
>>> Estate
>>> license, either as a broker or an appraiser. What does this mean? Does 
>>> it
>>> mean either he lied or he works for somebody?
>>>
>>> Jen
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, Jen, it will.  I don't believe there would be any reason for you 
>>>> to
>>>> even give your name.  You could just tell them that you want to check 
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> sure that he has a current real estate license and business license.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Cindy, this helps. I only know his full name, not the name of 
>>>> his
>>>> business. I just hope that when I call, it remains confidential.
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, you'd have to know where his business is and the name, in
>>>>> order
>>>>> for the Better Business Bureau to help.  Additionally, they'd know if
>>>>> there
>>>>> had been complaints against him, but not necessarily if he has a
>>>>> license.
>>>>> So, the Department of State would provide more information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The better business bureau for starters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan Wheeler
>>>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com or alan_wheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>>> redwheel1 on skype
>>>>> http://alan-wheeler.blogspot.com/
>>>>> "Tell the people the truth and the country will be free"
>>>>>  --Abraham Lincoln
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of jaber37837 at cox.net
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:45 PM
>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>
>>>>> I was planning on staying for two days. My Dad doesn't want to stay 
>>>>> any
>>>>> longer than that. AS far as calling NY to find out if he really does
>>>>> what
>>>>> he
>>>>> says he does, not a bad idea, except who would I call...Chamber of
>>>>> Commerce?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jen
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:24 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A phone call or two, to New York State, should be able to tell you if
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> a real estate license and if he has his own business.  If for no 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> reason, I think I'd put the trip off, for awhile, just because three
>>>>>> weeks
>>>>>> seems to soon, to me, to travel that far to meet someone who isn't
>>>>>> willing
>>>>>> to do the same for you.  If he has a real estate business and can 
>>>>>> see,
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> probably does drive.  So, it would be a lot easier for him to come to
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you planning to meet at a restaurant?  How long do you plan to
>>>>>> spend
>>>>>> there, after driving five hours?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still think it would be a good idea to wait, even if you do get the
>>>>>> answers you hope for.  I think you need more time to get to know him.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> need to know if the information he give you, about himself, is
>>>>>> consistent
>>>>>> and if he isn't afraid to answer your questions about him.  He wants
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be upfront and honest.  He should do the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said that because of his Real Estate business, it's difficult for
>>>>>> him
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get away. Yes, this was a red flag for me immediately, however there
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a legitimate reason why this is true. I did ask him to come here to
>>>>>> Rhode
>>>>>> Island, and at first he said it wasn't a problem, but then he asked 
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> come to see him; it's only a five hour drive. So I arranged it 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> Dad has nothing better to do really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still waiting for the report I ordered. It will tell me his 
>>>>>> general
>>>>>> behavior, whether or not he does run a real estate business, what
>>>>>> assets
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> has, whether he owns any licenses...of course, if everything he told 
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> lie, I'm definitely not going. I don't know yet though, so I'll have 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> wait
>>>>>> and find out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jen
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:45 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have to echo what others have said.  How much of a distance is 
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> between you and New York, where you're meeting this guy?  Where are
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> going to meet?  Is that where your date will be, like a restaurant 
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> something like that?  If this guy drives, wouldn't it be easier, and
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> desirable, for him to come to where you are?  At least, if you're in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> own area, you could choose where to go for the date and feel more
>>>>>>> comfortable about leaving, if things didn't go the way you planned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>>>>> To: "BlindTalk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:46 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure if this is the proper place to discuss this, but I
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would put it out there anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About a week or so ago, I had mentioned that I had met someone in 
>>>>>>> New
>>>>>>> York
>>>>>>> who seems to be interested in me, and I have found a way to get 
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> without causing an up-roar at home (I was worried about how my 
>>>>>>> parents
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> react if I just took off).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I have arranged it so that my Dad will be bringing me to meet
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> guy. Sounds ok, right? He isn't thrilled, but he understands why it
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be this way. I just can't help wondering if I'm wrong about him
>>>>>>> somehow.
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>> course, I think this way about everybody, even perfectly safe 
>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> done a criminal back ground check on him, nothing there except for a
>>>>>>> traffic
>>>>>>> violation from sixteen years ago, he sounds ok to me, but is he?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, I could go on and on about this all night, but I won't. I 
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> know what to think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've checked everything I could think of, address, criminal
>>>>>>> background,
>>>>>>> Psych profile, everything seems fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess I just would appreciate some advice if anyone has any. I'm
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> excited about meeting him, but my paranoia is getting in the way...I
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be worrying about nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any input,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jen
>>>>>>>
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