[Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Fri Oct 6 08:54:27 CDT 2006 

I really think we need to be careful not to get hung up on this.  The fact is, if the guy is a realter and he has a license, it doesn't change the fact that meeting him at 
his house alone on the first date is not a good idea.  In my mind, finding that he has a license would not change my thinking on that.  If he doesn't have a license, 
then one has to know what he actually said.  If he said he owns his own business and one can't find a trace of it, then one would wonder about his truthfulness.  
However, if he said he works in real estate, he could be handling web design for a listing service or any number of other jobs that don't involve direct sales.  He 
could even be starting his own business but not have the paperwork done.  The point is, a neutral meeting place just makes complete sense.  If he seems decent 
and nice on the phone and worth the effort, finding out more about his business ahead of time is probably good to expose any tendency to be completely untruthful, 
but finding he has an explanation or that he is exactly what he says he is doesn't change my feeling that starting out at his house is not a good idea.

On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 06:25:51 -0700, Judy Jones wrote:

>Hi,

>Cindy is right; if he is operating a business he has to have a license, they 
>call it a UBI, and she can find that through his city's tax and licensing 
>office.

>Judy

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
>To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind


>> Could you not contact the board of Realtors in his area?  Surely, if he 
>> has
>> a license, or not, the board of realtors in his area would be able to look
>> him up and tell you right off whether he has a license or not.  IF he has 
>> a
>> license, I suspect he'd have to be registered with the local board of
>> realtors for his area.  I already hear all kinds of alarm bells going off 
>> in
>> my head about this fella.
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>> The Constantly Barefooted,
>> Ray
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>
>>
>> Well, if he sells real estate, he has to have a license.  If he doesn't 
>> have
>> a license, then he's selling illegally or he isn't actually selling.  But,
>> if he told you he has his own business, he'd have to have a license.
>>
>> Cindy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>
>>
>> I checked out the Department of State. No one by his name owns a Real 
>> Estate
>> license, either as a broker or an appraiser. What does this mean? Does it
>> mean either he lied or he works for somebody?
>>
>> Jen
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>
>>
>>> Yes, Jen, it will.  I don't believe there would be any reason for you to
>>> even give your name.  You could just tell them that you want to check to
>>> be
>>> sure that he has a current real estate license and business license.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Cindy, this helps. I only know his full name, not the name of his
>>> business. I just hope that when I call, it remains confidential.
>>>
>>> Jen
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>
>>>
>>>> Actually, you'd have to know where his business is and the name, in 
>>>> order
>>>> for the Better Business Bureau to help.  Additionally, they'd know if
>>>> there
>>>> had been complaints against him, but not necessarily if he has a 
>>>> license.
>>>> So, the Department of State would provide more information.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The better business bureau for starters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan Wheeler
>>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com or alan_wheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>> redwheel1 on skype
>>>> http://alan-wheeler.blogspot.com/
>>>> "Tell the people the truth and the country will be free"
>>>>  --Abraham Lincoln
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of jaber37837 at cox.net
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:45 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>
>>>> I was planning on staying for two days. My Dad doesn't want to stay any
>>>> longer than that. AS far as calling NY to find out if he really does 
>>>> what
>>>> he
>>>> says he does, not a bad idea, except who would I call...Chamber of
>>>> Commerce?
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jen,
>>>>>
>>>>> A phone call or two, to New York State, should be able to tell you if 
>>>>> he
>>>>> has
>>>>> a real estate license and if he has his own business.  If for no other
>>>>> reason, I think I'd put the trip off, for awhile, just because three
>>>>> weeks
>>>>> seems to soon, to me, to travel that far to meet someone who isn't
>>>>> willing
>>>>> to do the same for you.  If he has a real estate business and can see,
>>>>> he
>>>>> probably does drive.  So, it would be a lot easier for him to come to
>>>>> where
>>>>> you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you planning to meet at a restaurant?  How long do you plan to 
>>>>> spend
>>>>> there, after driving five hours?
>>>>>
>>>>> I still think it would be a good idea to wait, even if you do get the
>>>>> answers you hope for.  I think you need more time to get to know him.
>>>>> You
>>>>> need to know if the information he give you, about himself, is
>>>>> consistent
>>>>> and if he isn't afraid to answer your questions about him.  He wants 
>>>>> you
>>>>> to
>>>>> be upfront and honest.  He should do the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>>>
>>>>> He said that because of his Real Estate business, it's difficult for 
>>>>> him
>>>>> to
>>>>> get away. Yes, this was a red flag for me immediately, however there 
>>>>> may
>>>>> be
>>>>> a legitimate reason why this is true. I did ask him to come here to
>>>>> Rhode
>>>>> Island, and at first he said it wasn't a problem, but then he asked me
>>>>> to
>>>>> come to see him; it's only a five hour drive. So I arranged it because
>>>>> my
>>>>> Dad has nothing better to do really.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still waiting for the report I ordered. It will tell me his general
>>>>> behavior, whether or not he does run a real estate business, what 
>>>>> assets
>>>>> he
>>>>> has, whether he owns any licenses...of course, if everything he told me
>>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> lie, I'm definitely not going. I don't know yet though, so I'll have to
>>>>> wait
>>>>> and find out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jen
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to echo what others have said.  How much of a distance is there
>>>>>> between you and New York, where you're meeting this guy?  Where are 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> going to meet?  Is that where your date will be, like a restaurant or
>>>>>> something like that?  If this guy drives, wouldn't it be easier, and
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> desirable, for him to come to where you are?  At least, if you're in
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> own area, you could choose where to go for the date and feel more
>>>>>> comfortable about leaving, if things didn't go the way you planned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: <jaber37837 at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: "BlindTalk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:46 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Internet dating for the blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if this is the proper place to discuss this, but I 
>>>>>> thought
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would put it out there anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About a week or so ago, I had mentioned that I had met someone in New
>>>>>> York
>>>>>> who seems to be interested in me, and I have found a way to get there
>>>>>> without causing an up-roar at home (I was worried about how my parents
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> react if I just took off).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I have arranged it so that my Dad will be bringing me to meet
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> guy. Sounds ok, right? He isn't thrilled, but he understands why it
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be this way. I just can't help wondering if I'm wrong about him
>>>>>> somehow.
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> course, I think this way about everybody, even perfectly safe people.
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> done a criminal back ground check on him, nothing there except for a
>>>>>> traffic
>>>>>> violation from sixteen years ago, he sounds ok to me, but is he?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I could go on and on about this all night, but I won't. I just
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> know what to think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've checked everything I could think of, address, criminal 
>>>>>> background,
>>>>>> Psych profile, everything seems fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I just would appreciate some advice if anyone has any. I'm
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> excited about meeting him, but my paranoia is getting in the way...I
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be worrying about nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any input,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jen
>>>>>>
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