[Blindtlk] FW: FNC Alert

Sun Dec 3 16:09:34 CST 2006

Hi,

I wonder if they wouldn't do what has been done in the past, introduce the 
new bills and let the worn-out ones drop out of circulation.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] FW: FNC Alert

> You know what?  I had someone (an 18 year old nonetheless) bring up an
> incredibly good point...there are *SO MANY* bills of our present currency
> out there, getting them replaced with any changed currency would be an
> unbelieveable task.
>
>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Chris Danielsen
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:01 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] FW: FNC Alert
>
> Dianne and listers,
>
> With due respect, the trouble with this argument is that the increased use
> of computers and scanning technology was a society-wide change that,
> incidentally, became a huge benefit to the blind.  In fact, it could just 
> as
> easily have *not* been to our benefit had we not worked so hard to make
> computers accessible, particularly when the graphical user interface came
> into being.  But the point is, not just the blind, but everyone, uses
> computers and scanning technology now, and through some modifications we 
> are
> able to use those same technologies.  What is being proposed here is
> altering the United States currency solely for the benefit of the blind.
> The ruling in this case argues that the blind can't use money because we
> can't see it, which is a dangerous argument.  We can and do use money
> regularly.  Sure, it might be more convenient if we could identify it
> without seeing it, but the question is whether that, by itself, is a 
> reason
> to alter the design of the currency.  The Treasury has considered this 
> issue
> in the past and decided that the best course is to pursue the development 
> of
> electronic money identifiers, and according to the ruling they even 
> started
> a project to develop a very cheap one.  I know that other countries have
> tactile currency, but other countries have lots of things we don't have in
> America, and while many of them are advantages, some of them aren't.  And
> despite our supposed lack of access to currency, blind people are better 
> off
> in America than we are anywhere else in the world, which says something
> about the relative importance of tactile currency.  I guess I wouldn't
> necessarily mind the money being redesigned with tactile features, but I
> *do* mind the implication that this *must* be done for the benefit of the
> blind.  I don't want society to get the idea that major alterations are
> needed in every aspect of everyday life so blind people can get along in 
> the
> world, and that we're vulnerable victims if such modifications aren't 
> made.
> That's my opinion and it's the reason for the NFB position.
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at crc.IN.gov>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] FW: FNC Alert
>
>
>> Good Morning To All,
>>
>> My viewpoint is pretty much in line with yours Sherri.  I mean, PLEASE
>> do not get me wrong.  We have MANY much more important issues in need of
>> attention from our legislators and legal system than this one.
>>
>> I too have a method of folding my money, and it generally has proven to
>> be quite effective.  For many years I didn't even fold it.  What I would
>> do is keep the larger bills on the outside of the role or stack of bills
>> and the smaller ones in the middle, and then just remember what I had.
>> But alas, I am growing older, and my memory is growing weaker.  So
>> several years ago I began to fold the bills for identification purposes.
>>
>> But, it is a fact that, in order to get our money folded in the first
>> place we do have to depend on the honesty/accuracy of a merchant, a bank
>> teller, a family member and so on.  That is, if we don't' have that $400
>> identifier.  Most of the time this method of initial identification
>> works fine, but I have been known to be on the other side of that coin.
>> It doesn't happen regularly or often, but it has happened.
>>
>> Like Sherri, I don't spend a great deal of time fretting about this
>> issue, but the rest of the world is going to a completely tactilely
>> identifiable monitory system, and I don't see why we need to be
>> different just to prove that there are alternative techniques.
>>
>> After all, progress is progress.  I mean, prior to the days of
>> wide-spread computer use, and scanners and Kurzweil and the whole bit,
>> blind people hired and used readers and sometimes had to call on others
>> to proof read there typed work and so on.  This worked out fine for them
>> then.  It was an alternative technique and it worked well.  But would
>> you rather have stayed back there?  Aren't you thankful, glad and
>> elated, that you can now take care of your bills, mail and other
>> business totally independently for the most part?
>>
>> I know I am.  The alternative techniques worked fine for their time, but
>> I for one, am grateful to be increasingly more independent of sighted
>> assistance.
>>
>> And now we even have the Kurzweil/NFB handheld reader which will
>> increase that independence even more as it can be carried with us.  I
>> can't wait to get my hands on one of those.  I am folding my money and
>> putting it away (when I can) in anticipation of that grand purchase.
>>
>> I do understand that it seems absurd to spend time on the little things
>> when there are so many major problems, but don't knock progress guys!
>> Every little piece of independence we achieve is precious.  At least it
>> is to me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Diane Graves
>> Civil Rights Specialist
>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>> 317-232-2647
>>
>>
>>
>> "Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference."--Winston
>> Churchill
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Sherri
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:26 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] FW: FNC Alert
>>
>>
>> This is probably an unpopular viewpoint and though I manage pretty well
>> without it and am much more concerned about obtaining more money than I
>> am
>> about having some tactile way to tell bills apart other than folding, I
>> guess I don't understand why we don't just catch up with the rest of the
>>
>> world and make our money identifiable? If we have to change it anyway
>> because of counterfeit bills, why not just make the other changes too?
>> However, I don't stay up nights thinking about this issue. Really, it
>> isn't
>> that important in the scheme of things. (smile)
>>
>> Sherri
>>
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