[Blindtlk] National Federation of theBlindCommentsonFederalCourt Ruling on U.S. Currency

[Brian Miller]

The Brits swore they would never give up their beloved pound notes, but they
did almost 20 years ago, and no one threw themselves into the Thames as a
result.

I think you are right, Mike, that at first it would be a tough sell, but
people would adjust, and I think it would be a boon.

As for the weight of carrying around coins, truth is, many of us use debit
cards and electronic debits nowadays anyhow.

Brian Miller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dexter Terry" <dterry at orednet.org>
To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] National Federation of
theBlindCommentsonFederalCourt Ruling on U.S. Currency


> Hi all,
> Ever with different size bills you could get confuse what the bills are
when
> you only have one size and could not check again another bills.
>
> I put different bills in different places in my billfold.  Then I know
what
> bills I have.
>
> I think that one dollar, five dollars, ten dollars could be in coin  which
> would last years instead of months as paper money does.  WWe already have
> two different size dollars coin.  One silver dollars is almost size of
> quasrter.  Also with coin they could braille number in count so us blind
> people could till which coin, we have.
> Dexter
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Miller" <brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu>
> To: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net>; "NFBnet Blind Talk
> Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] National Federation of the
> BlindCommentsonFederalCourt Ruling on U.S. Currency
>
>
> > What's more, in Europe, most of the regularly handled low denomination
> > amounts are in coin only.  Not only are coins easier to distinguish, but
> > they circulate much longer and save the treasury millions in printing
> costs.
> >
> > A $1 bill lasts months, whereas a coin could circulate for years.
> >
> > Brian Miller
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] National Federation of the Blind
> > CommentsonFederalCourt Ruling on U.S. Currency
> >
> >
> > > Hello folks,
> > >
> > > Why can't the U.S. Treasury simply follow the lead of the Europeans
when
> > > designing our paper currency?
> > > Euros are different sizes, depending on the amount of the bills. For
> > > instance, a 20 Euro note is larger than a 5 euro note.
> > > I have no trouble distinguishing my money when I'm traveling,and it's
> very
> > > helpful when there are no people around who speak English.
> > >
> > > LIz
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
> > > To: "'NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] National Federation of the Blind Comments
> > > onFederalCourt Ruling on U.S. Currency
> > >
> > >
> > > All this really proves is why the blind in our country aren't as
widely
> > > accepted (and employed) as (for example) the deaf are.  We have two
> > > differing consumer groups for blindness, and they will never be
unified.
> > On
> > > the other hand, there isn't an American Council of the Deaf at the
> throats
> > > of the National Federation of the Deaf and vice versa.  I know it
isn't
> > even
> > > remotely reality to hope/wish for the NFB and ACB to come together,
I'm
> > just
> > > musing to myself that people see that lack of unity and wonder why
> average
> > > people in society need so much educating about blindness even now in
the
> > > 21st century?  If the impossible were to happen, and the NFB/ACB were
to
> > > become one cohesive unit, actually working together, changing what it
> > means
> > > to be blind could (theoretically) happen a heck of a lot faster.
*SMILE*
> > >
> > >
> > > Just sharing my little pipe dream.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alan Wheeler
> > > awheeler at neb.rr.com or alan_wheeler at neb.rr.com
> > > redwheel1 on skype
> > > http://alan-wheeler.blogspot.com/
> > > "Tell the people the truth and the country will be free"
> > >   --Abraham Lincoln
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:00 PM
> > > To: NFBnet Blind Talk Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] National Federation of the Blind Comments on
> > > FederalCourt Ruling on U.S. Currency
> > >
> > > Now then!!!  What have Mike I and some others been saying all this
time?
> > > Told ya so.
> > >
> > > Sincerely yours,
> > > The Constantly Barefooted,
> > > Ray
> > > Home phone and fax:
> > > (985)853-0139
> > > E-mail:
> > > rforetjr at bellsouth.net
> > > Skype Name:
> > > barefootedray
> > > Blog:
> > > www.raysworld.blogs.com
> > > Podcast .rss Feed:
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/worldofray
> > >
> > > God bless President George W. Bush!
> > > God bless our troops!
> > > and God bless America
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:53 PM
> > > Subject: [Blindtlk] National Federation of the Blind Comments on
Federal
> > > Court Ruling on U.S. Currency
> > >
> > >
> > >          National Federation of the Blind Comments
> > >
> > >
> > > on Federal Court Ruling on U.S. Currency
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Views Effort as Dangerously Misguided
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Baltimore, Maryland (November 29, 2006): The National Federation of
the
> > > Blind, the largest organization of blind persons in America and known
as
> > the
> > > voice of the nation's blind, criticized as dangerously misguided a
> federal
> > > court ruling saying that the design of U.S.
> > > currency discriminates against the blind.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
> said:
> > > "The blind need jobs and real opportunities to earn money, not
feel-good
> > > gimmicks that misinform the public about our capabilities.  Blind
people
> > > transact business with paper money every day.  This ruling puts a
> > roadblock
> > > in the way of solving the real problem, which is the seventy percent
> > > unemployment rate among working-age blind Americans that severely
limits
> > our
> > > access to cash.  The ruling will do nothing to alleviate that
situation;
> > in
> > > fact, it seriously endangers the ability of the blind to get jobs and
> > > participate fully in society.  It argues that the blind cannot handle
> > > currency or documents in the workplace and that virtually everything
> must
> > be
> > > modified for the use of the blind.  An employer who believes that
every
> > > piece of printed material in the workplace must be specially designed
so
> > > that the blind can read it will have a strong incentive not to hire a
> > blind
> > > person."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maurer went on to enumerate the real needs for access to information
by
> > the
> > > blind and made a distinction between those needs and the issue of
> > > identifying currency.  "Access to information of all kinds, such as
that
> > > contained on Internet Web sites and in the press, is certainly
critical
> to
> > > the ability of the blind to become productive members of society.
Blind
> > > students need educational materials in Braille and other alternative
> > formats
> > > so that they can prepare for employment and ultimately earn an income
> for
> > > themselves and their families.  Given the urgent need for access to
the
> > kind
> > > of information that is required for success in America's information
> > > economy, the matter of identifying the denominations of paper bills is
> of
> > > relatively little concern."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Blind people traditionally identify paper currency by folding bills of
> > > different denominations in different ways.  "In reality, blind people
do
> > not
> > > routinely find that we have been short-changed," Maurer commented.
> > Machines
> > > are readily available to identify paper money for blind people who run
> > > businesses or handle large amounts of cash.  "Essentially, the United
> > States
> > > Treasury has been ordered by the courts to come up with a solution for
a
> > > nonexistent problem," Maurer said.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The National Federation of the Blind believes that with training and
> > > opportunity, blind people can compete in the world with only minor
> > > modifications.  The American Council of the Blind, which brought the
> > lawsuit
> > > against the United States Treasury, promotes the view that the blind
are
> > > unable to compete unless the world is modified dramatically and
> > specifically
> > > for blind people, and that the blind must be made objects of care and
> pity
> > > rather than equal participants in society.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John G. Paré Jr.
> > > Director of Public Relations
> > > NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
> > > 1800 Johnson Street
> > > Baltimore, Maryland  21230
> > > Telephone:  (410) 659-9314, ext. 2371
> > > Cell phone:  (410) 913-3912
> > > Fax:  (410) 685-5653
> > > Email:  jpare at nfb.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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