[BlindRUG] R Studio accessibility

Tue Mar 14 05:58:20 UTC 2017

It should also be mentioned that The R Consortium
(https://www.r-consortium.org/) may be able to help provide support
for a working group or an actual project on this topic.  From their
website:

"The central mission of the R Consortium is to work with and provide
support to the R Foundation and to the key organizations developing,
maintaining, distributing and using R software through the
identification, development and implementation of infrastructure
projects."

They already support several projects
(https://www.r-consortium.org/projects/awarded-projects), e.g.
localization / translation, and workshops.  They regular make calls
for proposals (https://www.r-consortium.org/projects/call-for-proposals),
but also simple wishlist suggestions
(https://github.com/RConsortium/wishlist/issues).

Henrik

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG
<blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I agree with Liz's comments below. Personally I have little interest in using R Studio and doubt it would be of much juse to me, although having said that I haven't spent much time looking in to the exact feature set and so perhaps I'm being too quick to judge. It does sound as though it might be useful to those who are less strong in statistical areas though, and with the dubious accessibility of SPSS (and other packages), it would certainly be nice if there was one piece of software that worked out of the box.
>
> For what it's worth, my preferred solution for using R is to use Emacs under Windows with Emacs Speaks Statistics. I like not having to work around the R GUI or R Terminal accessibility issues, and also enjoy being able to source code straight from one buffer in to my R session. The idea of writing a more detailed blog post is a good one, I've recently acquired a blog and so I'll look in to doing this in due course.
>
> Cheers
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Liz Hare via BlindRUG
> Sent: 13 March 2017 13:51
> To: Blind R Users Group
> Cc: Liz Hare
> Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] R Studio accessibility
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been using R since before RStudio was a thing, so I'm not sure what it offers. My first instinct is to say I don't need it, but the point about introducing students to R is a really good one. I like my workarounds, but they have a steep learning curve that could be a barrier to someone thinking about a STEM career. I'd be happy to support anything that develops in that direction.
>
> Liz
>
>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Martin, Vincent F via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I would gladly join in, as I think it would much easier to teach blind students to use "
>> R" if the R studio IDE was accessible.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindRUG [mailto:blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcus Low via BlindRUG
>> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 8:14 AM
>> To: blindrug at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Marcus Low <low.marcus at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [BlindRUG] R Studio accessibility
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> Would there be any value in a group of us writing to the developers of R Studio regarding its lack of accessibility and encouraging them to take steps to improve it?
>>
>> It seems to me we are all using relatively difficult work-arounds - while the ideal would in fact be for an IDE like R Studio to be made accessible. It will not happen quickly and it will not happen if only one or two of us ask - but maybe if a few of us make an appeal then we might be in a better position a few years from now.
>>
>> I am keen to hear what others think.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Marcus
>>
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