From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Oct  1 01:59:11 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:59:11 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA
	REGULATIONS
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Date: September 24, 2009

FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers
1-800-949-4232

PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS

The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to
regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA),
as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008.  The regulatory changes,
contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced by the U.S.
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on providing
individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination under Title
I of the ADA with a more expansive definition
of "disability."  Written comments must be submitted on or before November
23, 2009.

The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed into
law by the President in July 1990.  The EEOC is responsible for enforcing
Title I of the ADA, which prohibits employment discrimination against
individuals with disabilities.  The ADA requires employers to make
reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities.

"We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC."  "People
with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are fully
implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best that
they can be."

The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the
regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for public
comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment
discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets the
ADA's definitions of "disability."  The ADA Amendments Act also modifies the
Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment discrimination in the
federal workforce on the basis of disability.

The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the definition of
disability-an impairment that poses a substantial limitation in a major life
activity-must be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the
maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA, and should not require
extensive analysis.

The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major bodily
functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as medications and
devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects of impairment,
are not to be considered when determining whether a person has a disability.
They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in remission, such
as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric impairments, are
disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life activities when
active.

--MORE--

Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way of
demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity of
working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for determining
whether someone is regarded as having a disability.

The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is
posted on the EEOC website, 
<http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html>http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html 

along with a
question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions for submitting
public comments to the Commission.

You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How:

Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn,  Executive
Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, 131
M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507.

Comments submitted by fax.  As a convenience to commenters, the Executive
Secretariat  will accept comments transmitted by facsimile (``FAX'')
machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) 663-4114. (This
is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or fewer pages will be
accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to the equipment. Receipt of
FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, except that the sender may
request confirmation of receipt by calling the Executive Secretariat
staff at (202) 663-4070 (voice) or (202) 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not
toll-free telephone numbers.)

Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and
attachments electronically at 
<http://www.regulations.gov>http://www.regulations.gov , which is the
Federal eRulemaking Portal. Follow the instructions online for submitting
comments. Copies of comments submitted by the public will be available for
review at the Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R,
Washington, DC 20507, between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be
reviewed at <http://www.regulations.gov>http://www.regulations.gov.

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From stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  1 03:37:19 2009
From: stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com (Stephanie Enyart)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:37:19 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <59E75F8EAB48470BAB9D6E4843DA1648@SLIM>
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Hi Bruce,
I would be happy to share the strategies I used. I ca be reached easiest via
cell on nights and weekends: 415.596.6050. I live in Berkeley too.
Best,
Stephanie 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bruce Sexton Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:42 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)

Hello,

I am enrolled in a LSAT preparation class.  It's going well!  Do any of you 
have tricks you've used to diagram for logical reasoning and or logic games?

I know Deepa has used a magnet board, but I am interested in how other 
people have diagrammed so that all the information is represented, and all 
connections and inferences can be made.  The teacher is using dashes, arrows

and offshoots that divide two things, very much like a family tree!  Any 
tips or tricks are greatly appreciated!

Thank You,
Bruce Sexton Jr.
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From David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us  Thu Oct  1 21:58:47 2009
From: David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us (David B Andrews)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:58:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: 2010 Washington Seminar
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 >>> "Pare, John" <JPare at nfb.org> 10/1/2009 3:37 PM >>>

Fellow Federationists:



The dates for Washington Seminar are:



Monday, February 1 through Thursday, February 4, 2010

Great Gathering-In--Monday, February 1, 2010, 5 PM

Congressional Appointments--February 2 through February 4, 2010



             The following message comes from Diane McGeorge who 
organizes much of the logistics of Washington Seminar.



* * *

             Please make your hotel reservations as soon as 
possible.  We need to have reservations no later than December 30, 
2009.  Please do not contact the hotel to make your reservations.  I 
submit all the reservations for the Washington Seminar.  You may call 
(303) 778-1130, extension 219, to make your reservation, or you may 
e-mail your reservations to Lisa Bonder son at 
<mailto:lbonderson at cocenter.org>lbonderson at cocenter.org.  We will 
confirm receipt of your reservation either by return e-mail or by 
telephone, so be sure to give us your telephone number and your 
e-mail address.



             The following is the information that I need to have to 
assure you of a room at the Holiday Inn Capitol.



1.      Your date of arrival and departure.



2.      First and last names of any roommates that might be sharing 
with you.  If you make the reservation by phone, please spell first 
and last names of each person sharing the room.  Please include 
arrival and departure date for each person.



3.      Please specify if you wish to have:



             A smoking or non-smoking room

             An accessible room

             Two beds, one queen bed, or one king bed

             A rollaway bed (there will be a $10 charge per night)



4.      If Divisions (i.e., Students, Parents, Merchants, Lawyers, 
etc.) wish to have space for a meeting, I must have your requirements 
for meeting space no later than December 1, 2009.  We want to be able 
to accommodate everyone, and in order to do so we must have plenty of 
advance notice to work with the hotel.



             Per the hotel contract, individual cancellation must be 
made at least seventy-two hours prior to the date of arrival to avoid 
one-night's-room-plus-tax cancellation charge.  You must get in touch 
with Lisa Bonder son or me to make changes to your reservation as 
soon as possible to avoid such a charge.



             The rates are $154 for single, double, triple, or quad 
rooms, and the tax is 14.5 percent per night.  When you check in you 
must be prepared to cover at least the first night of your stay with 
either a credit card or check, and then arrange to pay the balance by 
presenting a credit card or a check for the remainder of the cost.



             Please remember, the deadline is December 30, 
2009.  There will be a number of special meetings during the seminar 
and you will want to watch the NFB Web site for special 
announcements.  The Great Gathering-In meeting will be held on 
Monday, February 1, 2009.  You certainly don't want to miss that.



             I hope this answers all of your questions.  I look 
forward to seeing all of you in D.C. in February.


Diane McGeorge


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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  3 09:49:16 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:49:16 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
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Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G

By STEPHANIE FARR
Philadelphia Daily News

farrs at phillynews.com
 215-854-4225

Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia
woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.

John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.

So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently
protected its blind customers.

"This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.

In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute
or that she had defrauded his credit card.

She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances,
according to court documents.

That case also was dismissed.

Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.

He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.

He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount
- usually $750 for two hours.

But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according
to court records.

Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services.

He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill.

When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said.

In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use
their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.

In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal,
hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents.

It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said.

When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother
me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary
board."

In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.

"If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men."

He said that he had the chutzpah
 to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay."

"They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.

Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents.

When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil,
who did not return calls for comment.

Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous."

"I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.

In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."

In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because
they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement.

Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation."

Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the
ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.

Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies.

"I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access
to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." 

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From james.weisberg at comcast.net  Sat Oct  3 12:53:02 2009
From: james.weisberg at comcast.net (James)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:53:02 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv
Message-ID: <E143EA5029F24DC6AFCE361711519FE6@james9f5240517>

I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society.  There was a post last week and the info was incomplete.  See below.

 

  _____  

From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM
To: james.weisberg at comcast.net
Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv

 

James,


Thanks for your help with this!  I drafted a post that is below my signature line.  

 

Victoria Thomas
ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow
American Diabetes Association
1701 North Beauregard Street
Alexandria, VA 22311
 
Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124
Fax: (703) 549-8748 
E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org 
www.diabetes.org/discrimination 

 

There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's upcoming attorney training and attorney network.  In addition to training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination.  Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, below.  The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from around the country.

 

Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law information, resources, and questions are frequently posted.  You can check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp

 

Still Time To Register

Fighting For Fairness 2009: 

Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes

A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to  attend â€œFighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24.  The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and disability discrimination law. 

 

FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students or workers with diabetes.  Specifically FFF 2009 will include:

*	Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act  make this an important and timely program. 
*	Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes discrimination in employment and school 
*	Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems 
*	Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources to assist in diabetes-related litigation

To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness.  Applicants will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis.  Some scholarship funding is available to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's needs.

 

Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes.  Contact Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any questions.


American Diabetes Association
Cure. Care. Commitment.


Visit us at http://diabetes.org
Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383)


From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sat Oct  3 15:06:39 2009
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:06:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
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The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! 
Ray Wayne


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Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G

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> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
> 
> By STEPHANIE FARR
> Philadelphia Daily News
> 
> farrs at phillynews.com
>  215-854-4225
> 
> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia
> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
> 
> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
> 
> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently
> protected its blind customers.
> 
> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
> 
> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute
> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
> 
> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances,
> according to court documents.
> 
> That case also was dismissed.
> 
> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
> 
> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
> 
> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt �� which he couldn't see �� that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount
> �� usually $750 for two hours.
> 
> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according
> to court records.
> 
> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services.
> 
> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill.
> 
> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said.
> 
> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use
> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
> 
> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal,
> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents.
> 
> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
> 
> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother
> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary
> board."
> 
> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
> 
> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men."
> 
> He said that he had the chutzpah
>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay."
> 
> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
> 
> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents.
> 
> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil,
> who did not return calls for comment.
> 
> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous."
> 
> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
> 
> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
> 
> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because
> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement.
> 
> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation."
> 
> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the
> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
> 
> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies.
> 
> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access
> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." 
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sat Oct  3 16:37:42 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
In-Reply-To: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
References: <SNT128-DS407B09F8A93F3818BFC6FBBD10@phx.gbl>
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Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G


> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>, "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>
>>
>>
>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>
>> By STEPHANIE FARR
>> Philadelphia Daily News
>>
>> farrs at phillynews.com
>>  215-854-4225
>>
>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is 
>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a 
>> Philadelphia
>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
>>
>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he 
>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
>>
>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged 
>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had 
>> not sufficiently
>> protected its blind customers.
>>
>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said 
>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
>>
>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that 
>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a 
>> prostitute
>> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
>>
>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched 
>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual 
>> advances,
>> according to court documents.
>>
>> That case also was dismissed.
>>
>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims 
>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
>>
>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six 
>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
>>
>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a 
>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon 
>> amount
>> - usually $750 for two hours.
>>
>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case 
>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," 
>> according
>> to court records.
>>
>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days 
>> that did not use her services.
>>
>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him 
>> his credit-card bill.
>>
>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take 
>> any action, court documents said.
>>
>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that 
>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers 
>> to use
>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
>>
>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a 
>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at 
>> providing personal,
>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set 
>> rate," according to court documents.
>>
>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated 
>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
>>
>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about 
>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't 
>> bother
>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, 
>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the 
>> disciplinary
>> board."
>>
>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" 
>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
>>
>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going 
>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind 
>> men."
>>
>> He said that he had the chutzpah
>>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her 
>> pay."
>>
>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too 
>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
>>
>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, 
>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court 
>> documents.
>>
>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the 
>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, 
>> William Reil,
>> who did not return calls for comment.
>>
>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates 
>> lessons were "ridiculous."
>>
>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
>>
>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone 
>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
>>
>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' 
>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed 
>> charges because
>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted 
>> a breach of the card-member agreement.
>>
>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities 
>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public 
>> accommodation."
>>
>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: 
>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA 
>> because the
>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
>>
>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not 
>> to include credit-card companies.
>>
>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words 
>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the 
>> blind access
>> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards."
>>
>> Buzz up!
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 17:47:05 2009
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:47:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
In-Reply-To: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC>
References: <SNT128-DS407B09F8A93F3818BFC6FBBD10@phx.gbl>
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He should be able to recover against that lady, I think.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
> wrote:

> Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>
>
>
> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile!
>> Ray Wayne
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>, "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
>> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>>
>>> By STEPHANIE FARR
>>> Philadelphia Daily News
>>>
>>> farrs at phillynews.com
>>>  215-854-4225
>>>
>>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is
>>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a
>>> Philadelphia
>>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
>>>
>>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he
>>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
>>>
>>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged
>>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not
>>> sufficiently
>>> protected its blind customers.
>>>
>>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said
>>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
>>>
>>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that
>>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a
>>> prostitute
>>> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
>>>
>>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched
>>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual
>>> advances,
>>> according to court documents.
>>>
>>> That case also was dismissed.
>>>
>>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims
>>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
>>>
>>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six
>>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
>>>
>>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a
>>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon
>>> amount
>>> - usually $750 for two hours.
>>>
>>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case
>>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked,"
>>> according
>>> to court records.
>>>
>>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days
>>> that did not use her services.
>>>
>>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him
>>> his credit-card bill.
>>>
>>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take
>>> any action, court documents said.
>>>
>>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that
>>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to
>>> use
>>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
>>>
>>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a
>>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at
>>> providing personal,
>>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set
>>> rate," according to court documents.
>>>
>>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated
>>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
>>>
>>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about
>>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't
>>> bother
>>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe,
>>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the
>>> disciplinary
>>> board."
>>>
>>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck"
>>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
>>>
>>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going
>>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind
>>> men."
>>>
>>> He said that he had the chutzpah
>>>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her
>>> pay."
>>>
>>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too
>>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
>>>
>>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer,
>>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court
>>> documents.
>>>
>>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the
>>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney,
>>> William Reil,
>>> who did not return calls for comment.
>>>
>>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates
>>> lessons were "ridiculous."
>>>
>>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
>>>
>>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone
>>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
>>>
>>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples'
>>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed
>>> charges because
>>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted
>>> a breach of the card-member agreement.
>>>
>>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities
>>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public
>>> accommodation."
>>>
>>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained:
>>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA
>>> because the
>>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
>>>
>>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not
>>> to include credit-card companies.
>>>
>>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words
>>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the
>>> blind access
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From james.weisberg at comcast.net  Sat Oct  3 17:57:37 2009
From: james.weisberg at comcast.net (James)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:57:37 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
In-Reply-To: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC>
Message-ID: <E841DA32B9BF4EFDB988705076851CC7@james9f5240517>

Even???

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:38 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G

Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G


> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>, "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>
>>
>>
>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>
>> By STEPHANIE FARR
>> Philadelphia Daily News
>>
>> farrs at phillynews.com
>>  215-854-4225
>>
>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is

>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a 
>> Philadelphia
>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
>>
>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he 
>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
>>
>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged 
>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had 
>> not sufficiently
>> protected its blind customers.
>>
>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said 
>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
>>
>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that 
>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a 
>> prostitute
>> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
>>
>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched

>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual 
>> advances,
>> according to court documents.
>>
>> That case also was dismissed.
>>
>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims 
>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
>>
>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six 
>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
>>
>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a 
>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon

>> amount
>> - usually $750 for two hours.
>>
>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case 
>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," 
>> according
>> to court records.
>>
>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days

>> that did not use her services.
>>
>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him 
>> his credit-card bill.
>>
>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take 
>> any action, court documents said.
>>
>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that 
>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers

>> to use
>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
>>
>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a 
>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at 
>> providing personal,
>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set 
>> rate," according to court documents.
>>
>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated 
>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
>>
>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about

>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't 
>> bother
>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe,

>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the 
>> disciplinary
>> board."
>>
>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" 
>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
>>
>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going 
>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind 
>> men."
>>
>> He said that he had the chutzpah
>>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her 
>> pay."
>>
>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too 
>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
>>
>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, 
>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court 
>> documents.
>>
>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the 
>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, 
>> William Reil,
>> who did not return calls for comment.
>>
>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates 
>> lessons were "ridiculous."
>>
>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
>>
>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone 
>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
>>
>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' 
>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed 
>> charges because
>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted 
>> a breach of the card-member agreement.
>>
>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities 
>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public 
>> accommodation."
>>
>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: 
>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA 
>> because the
>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
>>
>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not 
>> to include credit-card companies.
>>
>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words 
>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the

>> blind access
>> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards."
>>
>> Buzz up!
>> Buzz this story.
>> CURRENTLY SHOWING ON PHILLY.COM
>>
>> images/090325_pc_dish_203_kan_1
>>
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>>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  3 21:10:29 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:10:29 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Hud charges Illinois university with violating Fair
	Housing Act
Message-ID: <7895CB8CB1FC4F7488EC71392FF32F41@spike>

HUD Charges? Illinois University with Violating the Fair Housing Act?
Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 @10:50am CDT


WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development today announced that it has charged? Millikin University in Decatur, Illinois with housing discrimination for allegedly refusing to allow a student with epilepsy and blindness to live in a dormitory with her trained service dog. 


The Fair Housing Act makes it unlawful to refuse to make reasonable 
accommodations in policies or practices when a person with a disability may require such an accommodation in order be afforded the equal housing opportunity others enjoy. 


"Having a service animal promotes independent living for many people with disabilities, " said John Trasvia, HUD's Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity. "HUD is committed to making sure colleges and universities promote supportive living environments for people living with disabilities. "


HUD brought the charge on behalf of the student who obtained a service dog from a non-profit organization that trained the dog to assist the student in the event of an epileptic seizure. HUD alleges that once the student obtained the service animal, Millikin University banned the student from even entering the dormitory building with the dog, requiring the student to vacate her room if she wanted to keep the animal and commute to school from her parents' home. Later, the university relocated the student to an inaccessible dormitory. 


The HUD charge will be heard by a United States Administrative Law Judge unless any party to the charge elects to have the case heard in federal district court. If an administrative law judge finds after a hearing that discrimination has occurred, he may award damages to the complainant for her damages as a result of the discrimination. The judge may also order injunctive relief and other equitable relief to deter further discrimination, as well as payment of attorney fees. In addition, the judge may impose civil penalties in order to vindicate the public interest. 


A federal district court judge may also award punitive damages to the complainant.


FHEO and its partners in the Fair Housing Assistance Program investigate approximately 10,500 housing discrimination complaints annually. People who believe they are the victims of housing discrimination should contact HUD at 1-800-669-9777(voice),
800-927-9275 (TTY). Additional information is available at 
www.hud.gov/fairhousing.
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext /?cid=109371_ 

From k7uij at panix.com  Sun Oct  4 23:30:04 2009
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:30:04 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB
	listserv
References: <E143EA5029F24DC6AFCE361711519FE6@james9f5240517>
Message-ID: <18371BAEE27A4066857C1E4455CCC296@owner96190708e>

I find the below highly ironic in that I have never seen the American 
Diabetes Association show much concern about the *real* issues facing 
blind diabetics (presumably, the group it would care most about) such as 
the lack of an accessible insulin pump, the lack of responsiveness of 
Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk in removing warnings from their insulin pen 
packaging and inserts that caution against use of insulin pens by the 
blind or visually impaired without the supervision of a sighted person 
or the relative paucity of accessible American Diabetes ASsociation 
literature other than on-line.

Mike Freeman, President
Diabetes Action Network
National Federation of the Blind

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James" <james.weisberg at comcast.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB 
listserv


I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society. 
There was a post last week and the info was incomplete.  See below.



  _____

From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM
To: james.weisberg at comcast.net
Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv



James,


Thanks for your help with this!  I drafted a post that is below my 
signature line.



Victoria Thomas
ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow
American Diabetes Association
1701 North Beauregard Street
Alexandria, VA 22311

Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124
Fax: (703) 549-8748
E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org
www.diabetes.org/discrimination



There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's 
upcoming attorney training and attorney network.  In addition to 
training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney 
training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination. 
Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, 
below.  The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes 
some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from 
around the country.



Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the 
American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes 
referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and 
prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability 
discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law 
information, resources, and questions are frequently posted.  You can 
check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at 
http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp



Still Time To Register

Fighting For Fairness 2009:

Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes

A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to 
attend â€œFighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students 
and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to 
take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24. 
The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific 
opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop 
expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and 
disability discrimination law.



FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building 
sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students 
or workers with diabetes.  Specifically FFF 2009 will include:

* Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act 
Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, 
proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs 
recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA 
Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed 
Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act  make this an important and 
timely program.
* Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes 
discrimination in employment and school
* Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems
* Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources 
to assist in diabetes-related litigation

To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to 
www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness.  Applicants will be accepted on a 
first-come, first-served basis.  Some scholarship funding is available 
to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's 
needs.



Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to 
end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes.  Contact 
Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any 
questions.


American Diabetes Association
Cure. Care. Commitment.


Visit us at http://diabetes.org
Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383)

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From craig.borne at dot.gov  Mon Oct  5 15:11:37 2009
From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:11:37 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia
	Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business)
Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E75E72E@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov>

________________________________

Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia
Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business)

 

Friends,
 
This looks like an exciting opportunity to pass on to our networks.
 

JOB VACANCY
POSITION: Aide to Sonia Sotomayor's Chambers (1-yr appointment with
possible 1-year extension)

DESCRIPTION: Responsibilities include intake, tracking, retrieval and
disposal of case-related documents; preparing cert lists detailing
various assignments; filing correspondence on argued cases;
photocopying; messenger services within and outside the building as
assigned; assisting with basic secretarial duties; assisting the Justice
as requested; and occasional driving duties.

QUALIFICATIONS: Highly motivated, detail-oriented individual.  High
school diploma, Microsoft Office skills, driver's license, good driving
record, and knowledge of DC and surrounding areas required.  College
degree and prior work experience in a busy environment strongly
preferred. Fluency in speaking, reading and writing Spanish strongly
preferred. Employment is subject to successful completion of a security
background check. SALARY: From SCP-6/1 ($37,084) to SCP-7 ($41,210 to
$53,574) (SCP-7 is the Full Performance Level)
DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business)
TO APPLY, please FAX to the Supreme Court of the United States at
202-479-3076 the following required forms: 

*	OF-306 - Declaration for Federal Employment*
*	OF-612 - Optional Application for Federal Employment*, along
with
*	Resume and Cover Letter


Phone Number:  202-479-3404

*Optional Forms 306 and 612 can be obtained from www.usajobs. opm.gov
<http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/> 

.



.

 
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=14858654/grpspId=1705044556/
msgId=5576/stime=1254408932/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> 

 

 








From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  6 13:38:09 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:38:09 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Labeling and keeping docs in order: anyone using the new
	Penfriend device.
In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS19EFCFE7BFDDF41BD27389BBCE0@phx.gbl>

I just heard of this new device -- I wanted to further investigate it before 
I go and make the purchase. It is called the Penfriend, available on the 
Independent Living Aides website. It is a labeling device, similar to a 
barcode device, but you record your voice to each lable. I think this can be 
used to organize documents/client files, exhibits, etc.Can anyone share some 
info on this please if you are currently using it in your practice?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

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From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:49 AM
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> Test Please ignore, I am just testing a distribution rule.
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Oct  6 20:26:31 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:26:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



________________________________
From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Importance: High



From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Importance: High

________________________________
From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Importance: High
Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Requested Assistance
I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position.

Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.

Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.

Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
Diversity Programs Administrator
Office of Equal Opportunity
Washington State Department of Transportation
Office: (360) 705-7096
BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
Fax: (360) 705-6801


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From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 20:37:24 2009
From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdbenterprises at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:24 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] kdb invites you to check out Hollywood Beach Fl blog
Message-ID: <0016368323b0a3954504754a3252@google.com>

I'm following Hollywood Beach Fl blog and think you'll be interested in
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From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 20:37:26 2009
From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdbenterprises at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:26 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] kdb invites you to check out Hollywood Beach Fl blog
Message-ID: <001485eba8a0c47f4404754a32ea@google.com>

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From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  7 17:21:40 2009
From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdb)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] [B P T] Fw:Where is the class action suit on this one??
	Pass the BUTTER PLEASE..
In-Reply-To: <A98B8ABD165C4EF0999B73D6427DA579@cjoy>
References: <A98B8ABD165C4EF0999B73D6427DA579@cjoy>
Message-ID: <17110.95084.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


 Sounds like a simple solution- my idea is to have our Gov. get it off our market shelves please and assemble the class action suit.
Pass The Butter .. Please. 
>This is interesting . . . 
>Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed 
>the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted 
>a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with 
>this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food 
>appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in 
>place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever 
>new flavorings.. 
>
>DO YOU KNOW.. the difference between margarine and butter? 
>Read on to the end...gets very interesting! 
>
>Both have the same amount of calories.. 
>Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 
>grams. 
>Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over 
>eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study. 
>Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other 
>foods. 
>Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few 
>only because they are added! 
>Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of 
>other foods. 
>Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for 
>less than 100 years . 
>
>And now, for Margarine.. 
>
>Very high in Trans fatty acids. 
>Triple risk of coronary heart disease . 
>Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and 
>lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) 
>Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold..
>Lowers quality of breast milk. 
>Decreases immune response. 
>Decreases insulin response.
>
>And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY 
>INTERESTING! 
>
>Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC.. 
>
>This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and 
>anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the 
>molecular structure of the substance). 
>
>You can try this yourself: 
>
>Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.. 
>Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:
>* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that 
>should tell you something) 
>* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional 
>value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will 
>not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you 
>melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? 
>
>Pass the BUTTER PLEASE.. 
>
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Thu Oct  8 02:06:55 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:06:55 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob
 Bolotin Awards
Message-ID: <auto-000120710645@mailfront1.g2host.com>



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org



National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards





National Federation of the Blind to Award $50,000 in 2010



<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = 
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Baltimore, Maryland 
(October 7, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind today 
announced that applications are now being accepted for the 2010 Dr. 
Jacob Bolotin Award Program.  Each year the National Federation of 
the Blind presents cash awards to individuals and organizations that 
have made outstanding contributions toward achieving the full 
integration of the blind into society on a basis of equality.



Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a blind physician who lived and practiced in 
Chicago in the early twentieth century.  He was widely known and 
respected in Chicago and throughout the Midwest during his career, 
which spanned the period from 1912 until his untimely death at the 
age of thirty-six in 1924.  He was particularly recognized for his 
expertise on diseases of the heart and lungs.  Bolotin used his many 
public speaking engagements to advocate for the employment of the 
blind and their full integration into society.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a pioneer who overcame low expectations 
and discrimination to become a renowned member of the medical 
profession without the benefit of the support services and civil 
rights protections available to blind people today.  He was also a 
fierce advocate for greater opportunity for the blind in his time, 
and doubtless would have been a leader in the organized blind 
movement had he lived to see it come into being.  The Jacob Bolotin 
Award Program celebrates his pioneering spirit by recognizing and 
supporting outstanding programs, technologies, and individual efforts 
that promote independence and opportunity for blind Americans."



Recipients of the 2010 Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards will be determined by 
the Dr. Jacob Bolotin Award Committee of the National Federation of 
the Blind.  Online applications are due by April 15, 
2010.  Individuals or organizations are encouraged to apply on behalf 
of themselves or others.  The award recipients will be announced at 
the 2010 National Federation of the Blind Convention in Dallas.  A 
total of $50,000 will be distributed to the award recipients.



The Jacob Bolotin Award Program is funded through the generosity of 
Dr. Bolotin's nephew and niece, Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman.   In 
addition to establishing the Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman Trust to 
endow the awards, the late Mrs. Pearlman also wrote The Blind Doctor: 
The Jacob Bolotin Story.   The book has been published by Blue Point 
Books and can be ordered directly from the publisher at 
www.bluepointbooks.com. Proceeds from book sales will also benefit 
the award program.  For more information or to fill out the online 
application, please visit <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org.





###





About the National Federation of the Blind


With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind 
is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind 
people in the United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives 
through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs 
encouraging independence and self-confidence.  It is the leading 
force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's 
blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in 
the United States for the blind led by the blind.  Please visit our 
Web site: <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org.


From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  8 14:11:06 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar
	exam!
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>

Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process 
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a 
> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I 
> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and 
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the 
> ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From bspiry at comcast.net  Thu Oct  8 15:08:49 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:08:49 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>

Congrats dude!


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
barexam!

Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process 
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a

> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I 
> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and 
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the

> ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From mhanson at winternet.com  Thu Oct  8 15:22:25 2009
From: mhanson at winternet.com (Michael O. Hanson)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:22:25 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5D825D82915A47C8B307587620CD5796@hp048378e4c43a>

Good for you.  You've earned that beer!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania 
barexam!


> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, 
>> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's 
>> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
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>
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From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Oct  8 15:26:21 2009
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:21 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CE0856BA0F4A445DA5A28A3F8F39766C@owner96190708e>

Bravo, Rod! Way to go!

Mike Freeman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania 
barexam!


Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released 
their
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
process
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) 
> Manager
> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired 
> after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within 
> ECRB.
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment 
> in
> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that 
> has a
> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, 
> I
> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's 
> and
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of 
> interested
> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm 
> my
> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with 
> extensive
> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
> the
> ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From dfrye at nfb.org  Thu Oct  8 15:45:39 2009
From: dfrye at nfb.org (Dan Frye)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:45:39 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
Message-ID: <E1MvvBO-00027Y-7w@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Rod:

Congratulations!

With Kind Regards,

Daniel B.  Frye
Office: (410) 659-9314, Ext 2208
Mobile: (410) 241-7006
Note: This message has been issued remotely from the Braille 
Note.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400
>Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvania barexam!

>Yes, I did it! I passed.  I am now waiting for New Jerseyto 
released their
>results.

>I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in 
this process
>since the beginning.  This is a remarkable guy.  Thanks, Ray.

>I need a beer now!

>Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>C.  718-704-4651
>roddj12 at hotmail.com
>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
Hamilton
>Houston

>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov
>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; 
<nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT



>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High



>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High

>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the 
WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) 
Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina 
retired after
>> 36+ years with state government.  I have attached scanned copies 
of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management 
Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.

>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from 
within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the 
agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external 
recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for 
the
>> position.  Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate 
that has a
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the 
position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the 
KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent 
candidates.

>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of 
interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions 
please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to 
confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with 
extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify 
candidates for the
>> ECRB Manager position.

>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801






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From brandon.mcginty at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 16:04:41 2009
From: brandon.mcginty at gmail.com (brandon mcginty)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:04:41 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
In-Reply-To: <BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
Message-ID: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent. Congratulations.

Sincerely,
Brandon McGinty


On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry <bspiry at comcast.net> wrote:
> Congrats dude!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
> barexam!
>
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a
>
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the
>
>> ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  8 16:59:39 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:59:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
	Pennsylvaniabarexam!
In-Reply-To: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl><BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
	<3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS10A736CFAB6B827F36E63CBBCC0@phx.gbl>

Thanks guys for all of the nice words.


Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "brandon mcginty" <brandon.mcginty at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvaniabarexam!

> Excellent. Congratulations.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brandon McGinty
>
>
> On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry <bspiry at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Congrats dude!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
>> barexam!
>>
>> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
>> results.
>>
>> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
>> process
>> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>>
>> I need a beer now!
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>> Importance: High
>>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>>
>>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>>> a
>>
>>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>>
>>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>>> the
>>
>>> ECRB Manager position.
>>>
>>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> com
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From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  8 16:58:33 2009
From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	bar exam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am glad to here that.  I knew you would achieve this.


--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam!
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now
> waiting for New Jerseyto released their results.
> 
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me
> in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable
> guy. Thanks, Ray.
> 
> I need a beer now!
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." -
> Charles Hamilton Houston
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>;
> <jobs at nfbnet.org>;
> <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at
> DOT
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> > To: Nightingale, Noel
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Requested Assistance
> > I am asking for your help to identify viable
> candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity
> External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that
> has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned
> copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current
> WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB
> Manager position.
> > 
> > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates
> from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB
> Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given
> permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of
> attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a
> candidate that has a work background that matches all the
> essential areas for the position, I am confident that there
> are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent
> candidates.
> > 
> > Anything you can do to get our information into the
> hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated!
> If you have questions please contact  me or
> Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm
> my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks
> with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help
> us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.
> > 
> > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> > Diversity Programs Administrator
> > Office of Equal Opportunity
> > Washington State Department of Transportation
> > Office: (360) 705-7096
> > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> > Fax: (360) 705-6801
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindlaw mailing list
> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Thu Oct  8 17:58:29 2009
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
	Pennsylvaniabarexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
Message-ID: <ABA45249468A4CCF8735017FECF90757@valtd>

>From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you Rod 
for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam!  May you find the practice 
of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you get 
settled in the profession!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  8 20:12:50 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:12:50 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed
	thePennsylvaniabarexam!
In-Reply-To: <ABA45249468A4CCF8735017FECF90757@valtd>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl><BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
	<ABA45249468A4CCF8735017FECF90757@valtd>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS1905FCC4B2A67AA2EDF4C4BBCC0@phx.gbl>

Olusegun:

Thanks thanks thanks.


Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:58 PM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed 
thePennsylvaniabarexam!

>>From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you 
>>Rod
> for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam!  May you find the 
> practice of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you 
> get settled in the profession!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 20:59:00 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:59:00 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabar
	exam!
In-Reply-To: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <12C53ED0D7EC419096AD52575DA916F6@Rufus>

Damn, one more liar, ahem, lawyer to add to the mix?  Haha, kidding man.
Congratulations.  You do everyone proud.

Joe Orozco

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William ODonnell
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:59 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvaniabar exam!

I am glad to here that.  I knew you would achieve this.


--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvania bar exam!
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM Yes, I did it! I passed. I 
> am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results.
> 
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
> 
> I need a beer now!
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
> Hamilton Houston
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>;
> <jobs at nfbnet.org>;
> <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> > To: Nightingale, Noel
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Requested Assistance
> > I am asking for your help to identify viable
> candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil 
> Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July 
> 1 when Jim Medina retired after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned
> copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 
> Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position.
> > 
> > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates
> from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager 
> position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct 
> an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the 
> skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we 
> will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the 
> essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are 
> seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work 
> experiences who would make excellent candidates.
> > 
> > Anything you can do to get our information into the
> hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated!
> If you have questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied 
> Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use 
my network 
> to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be 
> able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.
> > 
> > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> > Diversity Programs Administrator
> > Office of Equal Opportunity
> > Washington State Department of Transportation
> > Office: (360) 705-7096
> > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> > Fax: (360) 705-6801
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 21:51:54 2009
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:51:54 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
	Pennsylvaniabarexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
Message-ID: <00a301ca4861$8de08690$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>

Great!
Congratulations.

Best Craig
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Spiry" <bspiry at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvaniabarexam!


> Congrats dude!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
> barexam!
>
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a
>
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the
>
>> ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Thu Oct  8 22:58:04 2009
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:58:04 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	bar exam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20091008225804.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Congratulations, Rod. I didn't really do anything; you did all the hard work. 
Ray


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Oct 8, 2009 10:58:34
Subject: [bllaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam!

>
>
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
> results.
> 
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process 
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
> 
> I need a beer now!
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." �� Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [bllaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> 
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> > To: Nightingale, Noel
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ESAID GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Requested Assistance
> > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
> > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
> > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
> > ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> > Description for the ECRB Manager position.
> >
> > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
> > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a 
> > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I 
> > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and 
> > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
> >
> > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
> > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
> > contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
> > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
> > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the 
> > ECRB Manager position.
> >
> > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> > Diversity Programs Administrator
> > Office of Equal Opportunity
> > Washington State Department of Transportation
> > Office: (360) 705-7096
> > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> > Fax: (360) 705-6801
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
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From langlois2 at verizon.net  Fri Oct  9 02:10:39 2009
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:10:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	bar	exam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <84B89E58707E4D5C92FB89B9EB47BC2E@barney03>

Congratulations, Rod!
Best wishes in your future endeavours!
brian Langlois


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar 
exam!


> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the
>> ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From cdanielsen8 at aol.com  Fri Oct  9 09:56:49 2009
From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:56:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2C1B8E200C0541B0A497CA578F693C4E@Scorpio13>

Congratulations Rod!

Chris
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
barexam!

Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) 
> Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina 
> retired after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment 
> in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that 
> has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the 
> position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of 
> the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent
candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of 
> interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have 
> questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this 
> email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out 
> to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us 
> identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
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From womankind at earthlink.net  Fri Oct  9 13:35:49 2009
From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:35:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
 Pennsylvaniabarexam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS10A736CFAB6B827F36E63CBBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
	<3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT128-DS10A736CFAB6B827F36E63CBBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1MwFdF-0002Vz-CX@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Fantastic!At 12:59 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote:
>Thanks guys for all of the nice words.
>
>
>Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>C. 718-704-4651
>roddj12 at hotmail.com
>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
>Hamilton Houston
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "brandon mcginty" <brandon.mcginty at gmail.com>
>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
>Pennsylvaniabarexam!
>
>>Excellent. Congratulations.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Brandon McGinty
>>
>>
>>On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry <bspiry at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Congrats dude!
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
>>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
>>>barexam!
>>>
>>>Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
>>>results.
>>>
>>>I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process
>>>since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>>>
>>>I need a beer now!
>>>
>>>Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>>>C. 718-704-4651
>>>roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>>Houston
>>>
>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
>>>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>>>>To: Nightingale, Noel
>>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>>Importance: High
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>>>>To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>>Importance: High
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>>Importance: High
>>>>Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>>>>Subject: Requested Assistance
>>>>I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>>>>Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>>>>position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>>>>36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>>>>ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>>>>Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>>>
>>>>Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>>>>Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>>>>Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>>>>hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>>>>position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a
>>>
>>>>work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>>>>am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>>>>transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>>>
>>>>Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>>>>candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>>>>contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>>>>commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>>>>networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the
>>>
>>>>ECRB Manager position.
>>>>
>>>>Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>>>>Diversity Programs Administrator
>>>>Office of Equal Opportunity
>>>>Washington State Department of Transportation
>>>>Office: (360) 705-7096
>>>>BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>>>>Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 10 03:26:22 2009
From: rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net ( Rob Tabor)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:26:22 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4776CC820D8A4C00B2F8C7FFA6CCAAF5@Rob>

Two thumbs up for you, Rod! If you pass both PA and NJ bar exams you not 
have only earned a beer; you've earned a whole case, so drink up!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania 
barexam!


> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, 
>> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's 
>> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From mike.sandi at comcast.net  Sun Oct 11 15:34:50 2009
From: mike.sandi at comcast.net (Mike Groat)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:34:50 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>

I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device.  It
is quite impressive.  The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
Then a voice note is made for that label number.  The labels can be reused
for recording purposes.  

For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well.   





From cdborne at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 16:49:43 2009
From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
Message-ID: <D6CC6B0AE197486BA0E4F92176B46147@CraigPC>

This sounds great.  Does anyone have a link to the product for sale?
Craig 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Groat
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device

I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device.  It
is quite impressive.  The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
Then a voice note is made for that label number.  The labels can be reused
for recording purposes.  

For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well.   




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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 11 18:06:20 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <D6CC6B0AE197486BA0E4F92176B46147@CraigPC>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>


Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link:

 

http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610
 
> From: cdborne at gmail.com
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale?
> Craig 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Groat
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It
> is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
> Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused
> for recording purposes. 
> 
> For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From cdborne at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 18:32:12 2009
From: cdborne at gmail.com (cdborne at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
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Thank you 

craig


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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Shaw <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link:

 

http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610
 
> From: cdborne at gmail.com
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale?
> Craig 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Groat
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It
> is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
> Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused
> for recording purposes. 
> 
> For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 22:21:31 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI
Message-ID: <BD52097A51BF47989600E3B3B8072CE3@Rufus>

>From Olivia Claverie

> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Date: September 24, 2009

> FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
> DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232

> PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS

> The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to 
> regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ( 
> ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory 
> changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced 
> by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on
providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination
under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. "
Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009.

> The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed 
> into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for 
> enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination
against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make
reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities.
 
> "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." 
> "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are
fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best
that they can be."

> The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1,  2009, and the 
> regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for 
> public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment 
> discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets 
> the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also 
> modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment
discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability.

> The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the 
> definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial 
> limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad
coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the
ADA, and should not require extensive analysis.

> The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major 
> bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as
medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects
of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person
has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in
remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric
impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life
activities when active.

> Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way 
> of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity 
> of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for 
> determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability.

> The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is 
> posted on the EEOC website, 
> http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html
> <http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html>
> along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions
for submitting public comments to the Commission.

You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: 
> Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive 
> Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity 
> Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC
20507.

> Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the 
> Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile
> (``FAX'') machine.  The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) 
> 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or 
> fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to 
> the equipment. Receipt of FAX  transmittals will not be acknowledged, 
> except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling 
> the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202) 
> 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.)
 
> Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and 
> attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov 
> <http://www.regulations.gov>, which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal.
> Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of 
> comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the 
> Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC 
> 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed 
> at
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Wed Oct 14 21:27:10 2009
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:27:10 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI
References: <BD52097A51BF47989600E3B3B8072CE3@Rufus>
Message-ID: <33E19519A81441C0961EDFA34D9038B5@none8a46117901>

Regarding the EEOC proposed regulations - I went to the web inks and read 
through the notice of proposed rulemaking and read through the questions and 
answers section.
Has anyone  actually been able to get to the proposed regulations themselves 
through that web site for the EEOC?

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To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI


> >From Olivia Claverie
>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> Date: September 24, 2009
>
>> FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
>> DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232
>
>> PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS
>
>> The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to
>> regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (
>> ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory
>> changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced
>> by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on
> providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination
> under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. 
> "
> Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009.
>
>> The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed
>> into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for
>> enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination
> against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make
> reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with 
> disabilities.
>
>> "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC."
>> "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations 
>> are
> fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the 
> best
> that they can be."
>
>> The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1,  2009, and the
>> regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for
>> public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment
>> discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets
>> the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also
>> modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment
> discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability.
>
>> The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the
>> definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial
>> limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad
> coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of 
> the
> ADA, and should not require extensive analysis.
>
>> The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major
>> bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as
> medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects
> of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person
> has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or 
> in
> remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric
> impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major 
> life
> activities when active.
>
>> Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way
>> of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity
>> of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for
>> determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability.
>
>> The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is
>> posted on the EEOC website,
>> http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html
>> <http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html>
>> along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and 
>> instructions
> for submitting public comments to the Commission.
>
> You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How:
>> Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive
>> Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity
>> Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC
> 20507.
>
>> Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the
>> Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile
>> (``FAX'') machine.  The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202)
>> 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or
>> fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to
>> the equipment. Receipt of FAX  transmittals will not be acknowledged,
>> except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling
>> the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202)
>> 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.)
>
>> Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and
>> attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov
>> <http://www.regulations.gov>, which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal.
>> Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of
>> comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the
>> Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC
>> 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed
>> at
> http://www.regulations.gov
> <http://www.regulations.gov>
>
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 01:55:02 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:02 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
Message-ID: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 16 02:07:58 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:07:58 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net>

Hey, congrats.  Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 02:22:03 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:22:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <008201ca4e07$73f87200$5be95600$@com>

Congratulations to everyone who is passing the bar!  You are awesome!!!

William

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From CDanielsen at nfb.org  Fri Oct 16 02:43:39 2009
From: CDanielsen at nfb.org (Danielsen, Chris)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:43:39 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Presidential Proclamation for White Cane Safety Day
Message-ID: <auto-000123424142@mailfront2.g2host.com>


Dear Fellow Federationists:


Below is the text of this years White Cane 
Safety Day proclamation issued by President 
Obama.  As you will read, the proclamation 
highlights the importance of Braille 
literacy.  It is clear that our advocacy on this 
issue is having an impact on policy makers at the 
highest levels of our government.  We continue to 
accomplish great things for blind Americans.  Happy White Cane Safety Day!



Sincerely:



Chris Danielsen etc.




White Cane Safety Day, 2009



By the President of the United States of America



A Proclamation





All Americans deserve the freedom to participate 
in every aspect of our society and pursue their 
full measure of happiness.  For blind Americans, 
the white cane is a potent symbol of that 
freedom­affording them greater independence and 
mobility.  Today, we renew our commitment to 
provide full inclusion and equal opportunities 
for those among us who are blind or have low 
vision.  As Americans, we must nurture a society 
that values the unique abilities and individual 
contributions of all its people.



Individuals who are blind or have low vision are 
less constrained and better integrated in our 
country than ever before, but much work remains 
to ensure they have the opportunity to reach 
their full potential.  My Administration is 
committed to securing full and equal access to 
education and employment for blind Americans and 
all those with disabilities.  The American 
Recovery and Reinvestment Act substantially 
increased funding for the Individuals with 
Disabilities Education Act, as well as vocational 
rehabilitation services, including job training, education, and placement.



For Americans who are blind or have low vision, a 
white cane is just one of a wide range of tools 
that sustain independence and productivity.  In 
recent years, refreshable Braille displays and 
speech synthesis devices have given these 
individuals access to the Internet, unlocking a 
new frontier of limitless possibility.  As we 
encourage the development of new assistive 
technologies, we must also improve access to 
existing tools.  The Braille code has opened a 
doorway to literacy for countless individuals, 
but far too many blind children in our country 
are not learning to read it.  By improving 
Braille literacy, we will secure a brighter future for these young Americans.



In the 45 years since White Cane Safety Day was 
first proclaimed by President Lyndon Johnson, 
Americans who are blind or have low vision have 
achieved substantial progress.  As leaders in 
government and business, academics, and the arts, 
they have made remarkable contributions to our 
Nation, proving that sight is no requisite for 
success.  We will continue to strive for a more 
just and equitable Nation that celebrates 
diversity in all its forms and promotes the full 
inclusion of all individuals in our communities.



By joint resolution approved on October 6, 1964, 
(Public Law 88-628, as amended), the Congress 
designated October 15 of each year as White Cane 
Safety Day to recognize the contributions of 
Americans who are blind or have low vision.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the 
United States of America, by virtue of the 
authority vested in me by the Constitution and 
laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim 
October 15, 2009, as White Cane Safety Day.  I 
call upon all Americans to observe this day with 
appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs.



IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand 
this fifteenth day of October, in the year of our 
Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence 
of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fourth.


From langlois2 at verizon.net  Fri Oct 16 02:47:39 2009
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:47:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <9A5F71976DE04BD4A7EDF56FFBBF17D2@barney03>

Congrats to you! I hope you ace the next exam as well!
Brian Langlois


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 04:18:42 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:18:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
	<90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4ad7f42a.86c3f10a.1965.0556@mx.google.com>

Yeah, I think that was me. :) I'm @arm4r on twitter.



-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:08 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hey, congrats.  Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!


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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 04:36:20 2009
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:36:20 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <017201ca4e1a$360342a0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>

Angie
Congratulations!!  That is great news.
I wish you all the best.


Craig




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
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From bspiry at comcast.net  Fri Oct 16 06:05:23 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:05:23 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <6F8EEA1977D543A8B6853DF4DCDE6FD6@Freddy>

Congratulations Angie!

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From joramsey at cox.net  Fri Oct 16 09:04:24 2009
From: joramsey at cox.net (John Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:04:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a>

Hi Angie,
Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA.
Take care,
John

John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq.

Gainesville, FL 32609

(352) 505-6642

 

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Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 11:09:03 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:09:03 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
	<0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a>
Message-ID: <4ad8544e.1ac1f10a.79a2.61a6@mx.google.com>

Hi John,

Yes, those were the days. (grin)

Best,

Angie



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Behalf Of John Ramsey
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hi Angie,
Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA.
Take care,
John

John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq.

Gainesville, FL 32609

(352) 505-6642

 

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Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Fri Oct 16 12:21:02 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:21:02 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
Message-ID: <cbd.4c8560fa.3809bf2e@aol.com>

Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome  
to the Legal Profession!
 
Ronza
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
angie.matney at gmail.com writes:

Hi  John,

Yes, those were the days.  (grin)

Best,

Angie



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Behalf Of John Ramsey
Sent:  Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hi  Angie,
Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with  VOPA.
Take care,
John

John A. Ramsey Jr.,  Esq.

Gainesville, FL 32609

(352) 505-6642



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control.  Thank you.   







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Behalf  Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet  Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA  Bar!


Hello Everyone,



I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!)  to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the  MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be  licensed on December  15.



Angie





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From shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 16 14:36:47 2009
From: shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com (Kate Thegreat)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:36:47 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income
Message-ID: <SNT108-W3D301E5C9FD966B4C251AA3C40@phx.gbl>


I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks. 		 	   		  
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 16 14:38:12 2009
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <665642.34115.qm@web112414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Congratulations, Angie!
 
I'm happy for you.
 
The MPRE is a piece of cake. You'll ace it.
 
Mike

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, Angie Matney <angie.matney at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Angie Matney <angie.matney at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 9:55 PM


Hello Everyone,



I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.



Angie





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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Fri Oct 16 16:00:27 2009
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:00:27 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <cbd.4c8560fa.3809bf2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6FE851C9337C4DEC8B99383137BA6EE0@labarre>

Here, here!
Scott C. LaBarre, Esq.

LaBarre Law Offices P.C.
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----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome
> to the Legal Profession!
>
> Ronza
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> angie.matney at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi  John,
>
> Yes, those were the days.  (grin)
>
> Best,
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of John Ramsey
> Sent:  Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
>
> Hi  Angie,
> Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with  VOPA.
> Take care,
> John
>
> John A. Ramsey Jr.,  Esq.
>
> Gainesville, FL 32609
>
> (352) 505-6642
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf  Of Angie Matney
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
> To: 'NFBnet  Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA  Bar!
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!)  to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the  MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be  licensed on December  15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Fri Oct 16 19:47:05 2009
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:47:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and other
	resources
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

  

I have been trying, without success, to find some information about the
availability of Arizona statute books and similar reference materials in
an audio format.  I use a Smartview desktop reader and WinZoom computer
software in the office, and have portable reader to use in court, but
having a backup audio source, preferably Mp3 (although I also have a
4-track machine) would be so much help.  The only response I get from
West Publishing is to offer a Braille text, which I am not yet literate
enough to use, and large print texts, which are far to bulky to be
hauling back and forth to hearings.  (I should have followed up on the
instinct to learn Braille in grade school, but glasses were enough back
then.)  Does anyone know if audio formats for such things are available,
and where I should check to obtain them?

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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 16 20:30:38 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:30:38 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income
In-Reply-To: <SNT108-W3D301E5C9FD966B4C251AA3C40@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT108-W3D301E5C9FD966B4C251AA3C40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E44078539D44C64AC1DDAC7828394E9@spike>

There are different standards that apply based on whether you are receiving 
SSI or Social Security disability benefits. If you are receiving Social 
Security disability benefits you most likely will not be making enough money 
to where it won't become an issue. There are potentially ways to get around 
this if you are receiving SSI however. If needed you can contact me off list 
to discuss further.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kate Thegreat" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income


>
> I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of 
> business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much 
> because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from 
> a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA 
> that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank 
> account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect 
> a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She 
> is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be 
> any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually 
> going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's 
> word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks.
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From darlene.olsen at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 23:34:14 2009
From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:34:14 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CA2C4D27FF39412B96B5CA123E853D5D@DarleneOlsen>

 CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you 
passed that exam.
Darlene Olsen
Napa, California

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sat Oct 17 01:12:29 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:12:29 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <CA2C4D27FF39412B96B5CA123E853D5D@DarleneOlsen>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
	<CA2C4D27FF39412B96B5CA123E853D5D@DarleneOlsen>
Message-ID: <5DC7FA1BC0B1405B9EDF119578654F69@StevePC>

congradulations!!!  I  didn't pass the Bar because I didn't take the bar!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darlene Olsen" <darlene.olsen at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you
> passed that exam.
> Darlene Olsen
> Napa, California
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
>
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
>> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
>> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>>
>>
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From cdanielsen8 at aol.com  Sat Oct 17 10:28:44 2009
From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:28:44 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <947C056DFB4241C5827B25EE064E23E5@Scorpio13>

Congratulations! I hope your legal career is a fulfilling one.

Chris
 

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sun Oct 18 02:36:28 2009
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:36:28 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20091018023628.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Congratulations, Angie. 
Ray Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'Ationfbnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, Oct 16, 2009 0:29:36
Subject: [bllaw] I passed the VA Bar!

>
>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
> 
>  
> 
> Angie
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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From blindchildren at verizon.net  Sun Oct 18 23:36:33 2009
From: blindchildren at verizon.net (Carol Castellano)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:36:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights
 Training, Washington, DC - December 2-4,
 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly encouraged to register only for
 day 1 - ADA Day.
Message-ID: <auto-000123684241@mailfront2.g2host.com>

Dave,
I received this notice from a disability 
organization in VA.  Would you please forward to 
any lists that you think might be interested.
Thanks,
Carol

Carol Castellano, President
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.nfb.org/nopbc

Subject: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights Training,
>  Washington, DC - December 2-4, 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly
>  encouraged to register only for day 1 -  ADA Day.
>Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:25:26 -0400
>From: "Konoka Izumi" <KonokaI at ecnv.org>
>To: "Konoka Izumi" <KonokaI at ecnv.org>
>
>[]
>  Federal Transit Administration
>Office of Civil Rights
>
>
>Civil Rights Training
>December 2 - 4, 2009
>Washington, DC
>
>[]
>
>[]
>
>
>The Federal Transit Administrations Office of 
>Civil Rights invites its grant recipients and 
>other interested stakeholders in all FTA Regions 
>to attend a three-day training on FTAs civil 
>rights requirements and guidance.  The training 
>will review federal laws, regulations, executive 
>orders, and guidance covering the Americans with 
>Disabilities Act, Title VI of the Civil Rights 
>Act of 1964, and the U.S. Department of 
>Transportations Disadvantaged Business 
>Enterprise (DBE) Program.  This training will 
>also discuss recently implemented and proposed 
>updates to existing FTA civil rights directives and guidelines.
>
>This training will help practitioners better 
>understand the importance of civil rights 
>considerations in transportation and transit 
>planning, project development, investment, and 
>operations.  Participants will be able to apply 
>the content learned during this course to their 
>daily work activities and local environment.
>
>Participants will also have the opportunity to 
>provide the FTA with feedback on challenges and 
>opportunities that they have experienced in 
>implementing Federal civil rights directives and 
>to share examples of effective or promising 
>practices that could be adopted by state, 
>regional, and local agencies or community-based organizations.
>
>Scholarships for travel expenses are available!
>
>This training will be held at the Westin 
>Arlington Gateway located at 801 North Glebe 
>Road, Arlington, VA 22203. Hotel rooms are 
>available on a first-come first-serve basis. To 
>reserve a room at the group discount rate of 
>$207/night, call 1-888-627-7076 or 703-717-6200 
>and mention the FTA Workshop.  The room 
>registration cut-off date is November 13, 2009.
>Reservation Deadline: Workshop reservations must 
>be made by November 13, 2009 while all 
>scholarship requests must be made by November 6, 2009.
>
>FTA Civil Rights Training
>Preliminary Agenda
>
>
>Wednesday ­ December 2, 2009
>
>Morning       Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA)
>                    Overview and Updates
>Afternoon    ADA Fixed Route Self Assessment
>                    Complementary Paratransit Self-Assessment
>                    ADA Trivia!
>
>Thursday ­ December 3, 2009
>
>Morning       Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 Overview
>                    Overview of New Title VI Circular
>                    Title VI Video Divided Highways
>Afternoon    Environmental Justice
>                    Exercise: City of Metropolis
>                    DOJ Video Language Barriers
>                    Limited English Proficiency (LEP)
>
>Friday ­ December 4, 2009
>
>Morning       Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program (DBE) Overview
>                    DBE Goal Methodology
>Afternoon    DBE Fraud
>                    DBE Certification
>
>Layo Osiyemi
>Endependence Center of Northern Virginia, Inc. (ECNV)
>2300 Clarendon Blvd. Suite 305
>Arlington, VA 22201
>(703) 525-3268 Ext 8005 (V)
>(703) 525-3553 (TTY)
>(703) 525-3585 (Fax)
><http://www.ecnv.org>www.ecnv.org
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 19 07:14:46 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:14:46 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and
	otherresources
In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>
References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>
Message-ID: <D950F2F477BF4DE287CBAE804AAB60BD@spike>

Probably the best solution would be to use Westlaw on line to get this 
materials.
Chuck
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To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and 
otherresources


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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 19 19:56:52 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:56:52 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] ADA town hall in Oakland Ca
Message-ID: <1D5F097F53FA48328CCCAE5635AB52B8@spike>

Subject: Mon, Oct 26: ADA AA Town Hall in Oakland, CA


The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) Civil Rights Division
announce a full-day


Town Hall Listening Session
Monday, October 26, 2009
9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
California Endowment
1111 Broadway, 7th floor
Oakland, CA 94607


This is the first of a series of forums for public input being held
throughout the country in coming weeks to obtain direct input from the
business/employer communities as well as the disability and disability
advocacy community on EEOC's proposed regulations under the ADA
Amendments Act of 2008 (ADAAA).


Presided over by EEOC's Acting Chair, Stuart J. Ishimaru, Acting Vice
Chair, Christine Griffin, and Commissioner Constance S. Barker, as well
as DOJ's Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Samuel
Bagenstos, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights,
Mazen Baswari, and Chief of the Disability Rights Section of the Civil
Rights Division, John Wodatch, the Town Hall Listening Session is an
opportunity for these officials to hear directly from stakeholders of
all perspectives on the proposed regulations.


Five-minute time slots to address the panel will be available from 9:00
a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Some of the slots will be available on an advance
registration basis and some on first-come, first-served sign up basis at
the event. Members of the public are also invited to attend and view
the proceedings, with space available on a first-come, first-served
basis.


As a reasonable accommodation, there will be limited availability to
provide public input by telephone. To request this accommodation you
must register in advance.


Individuals representing themselves or organizations are urged to take
advantage of this opportunity to provide input on the EEOC's Notice of
Proposed Rulemaking which can be viewed, along with a
question-and- answer guide, at 
www.eeoc.gov


For more information, or to register as a speaker, please contact


Linda Li at 415-625-5618
(TTY 415-625-5610)
Linda.Li at ...


Sign Language Interpreters, CART, and assistive listening devices will
please email Elisa.gonzalez. ctr at ... Please let her know what
you need and the location (city) of the event you will be attending.


Both EEOC and DOJ want to encourage all individuals and organizations
who cannot attend this event to make sure you submit comments and
attachments electronically at 
http://www.regulati
ons.gov, the Federal
eRulemaking Portal. The ID # is 3046-AA85. Written comments may also be
submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive Secretariat, EEOC, 131 M
Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. Comments
may be transmitted by facsimile ("FAX'') machine by dialing (202)
663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or
fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal. Comments must be
submitted on or before November 23, 2009.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _
Please forward as appropriate - we are truly seeking comment from the
public, from business and employers as well as the disability and
disability advocacy community. Thank you.

From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Mon Oct 19 21:11:38 2009
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:11:38 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and
 other resources
In-Reply-To: <D950F2F477BF4DE287CBAE804AAB60BD@spike>
References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>
	<D950F2F477BF4DE287CBAE804AAB60BD@spike>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6766@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

Thanks - I'll give it another shot, although I'm finding that at least
in the Arizona materials, our profession is having a bit of difficulty
(to be nice) measuring up to the goal of accessibility for all.  Keeping
my fingers crossed, though.  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2009 12:15 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and
otherresources

Probably the best solution would be to use Westlaw on line to get this 
materials.
Chuck
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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and 
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Oct 20 18:13:45 2009
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:13:45 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <3AC7FBA20AEF455C877D40568FBC0E87@valtd>

Angie, hearty congratulations!  God bless you as you begin carving a niche 
in the legal profession.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Oct 20 20:08:33 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:08:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Managing Your Word Documents, ABA September/October 2009
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

This article relates to discussions that have occurred on this list about document management programs.  It may give some idea for other programs to try out for accessibility.



Link:
http://new.abanet.org/publishing/bookbriefsblog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=95

Text:
10/13/2009
Managing Your Word Documents
By Ben M. Schorr
Excerpted from The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Word 2007

Microsoft produced Office 2007 with a strong emphasis on collaboration, and this plays nicely into how lawyers tend to use their tools. Having partners, associates, co-counsel, clients, witnesses, and paralegals work on a document means that it has many authors and editors. Effectively working together to produce a professional finished document is key to running a great law practice.

Third-Party Document Management Systems

I have to admit that I sort of resent third-party document-management systems. They're an expensive crutch whose sole reason for existence is simple human weakness. With any modern computer, if you use an intelligent file-naming convention in a disciplined fashion and a good file-searching system-Copernic Desktop and Windows Desktop Search (WDS) are two such options that are also free-then you really don't need a third-party document-management system.

Document management exists to help you and your colleagues intelligently save, store, and find documents. You can accomplish the same thing by establishing a policy that says, "All memos will be saved to the client's folder, under the matter subfolder, with a file name in the format of 'Memo to [X] regarding [Y],'" and then adhering religiously to that policy. Everybody would be able to find a document they were looking for and the search tool (like WDS) would help cover those scenarios where simple good file names and directory structures don't fit the bill.

Unfortunately, in the real world, people are rushed and corners get cut. Pretty soon the root folder of the structure starts to fill up with files named "Memo1," "Memo2," "Jonesmemo," and so forth as people cut the handful of steps required to save the file properly and just save it as quickly as they can, with whatever name they can bang out fast, and move on. Then you have the filing equivalent of kindergarten, and nobody can remember which cubby they put their shoes in.

Document-management systems solve this problem by automating some of the process (extracting keywords from the document itself, and inserting the author and editor IDs) and by forcing other parts of it-requiring the user to type in a client/matter number, for example. They also generally include a search engine that can be used to search the document profiles as well as the document itself. In addition to the purpose-built document-management tools, many case-management suites like ProLaw or Client Profiles are capable of some document management as well. If you already have a full-featured case-management suite in place, you might want to see if it can address your document-management needs before you invest in a separate document-management tool.

DocsOpen by Open Text (formerly "Hummingbird")

The venerable DocsOpen system is one that just about any lawyer who has been around a decade or two has probably run across in at least one firm. It was, for a time, the most popular system among the AmLaw 100, and if it has fallen from that perch it has only been due to cost, competition, and perhaps some disillusionment among firms with the product-which, to be honest, is probably inevitable with a product as complicated and ubiquitous as a document-management system is. More information is available at http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-edocs-products2/pro-llecm-docsopen.htm.

Interwoven WorkSite (formerly known as iManage)

Probably the other leading vendor in the AmLaw 100 for document and content management is Interwoven. Their WorkSite is extremely modular and can be customized for a particular firm. More information is available at http://www.interwoven.com.

Worldox

Worldox has been around since the late 1980s and is widely used in small- to mid-sized firms. Unlike its competitors, Worldox has always been Worldox and hasn't evolved through acquisition and change of ownership. It started out as a reasonably priced solution for smaller firms and has grown a bit from there. It's still pretty reasonably priced for what you get. More information is available at http://www.worldox.com.

Created By: Kurt Harzke | Category: Legal Technology | Permalink



From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 20 22:14:01 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:14:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 



From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 22:12:17 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:12:17 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>

You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the
document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this.

I hope this is what you were asking.

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 


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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 20 22:34:05 2009
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:34:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000901ca51d5$6f0d0a90$280110ac@HP8730notebook>

hi,

1 sign your name several times, choose the best one, scan it so you can slap 
it where you need it.
2 use the ms word bradley hand itc font and 18 point and it will look like 
your signature.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
>
>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Tue Oct 20 22:42:01 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:42:01 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>

I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB  Independence 
Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several hours 
a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of 
sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their  assistants.  I 
had mine made at Office Max.
Hope that answers your question.
 
Ronza
 
 
In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:

How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston



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From pattichang at att.net  Tue Oct 20 23:07:09 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:07:09 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>
Message-ID: <6C590520A6574E5195E35928D90F73DF@D3J75Z91>

My favorite method is a post it note.  You can stick it on the paper right 
below where you have to sign and it doesn't even require that someone be 
here.  Also, it doesn't slip or slide.  I used to have to do 20 or so 
releases a day and it worked well.

P.S.  National Federation of the Blind of Illinois is now on twitter at 
www.twitter.com/nfbi.
We also have a facebook page.  Just search for our full name.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
pattichang at att.net
www.nfbofillinois.org
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the
> document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this.
>
> I hope this is what you were asking.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 20 23:21:33 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:21:33 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS1400285E5647BBBA34B56EBBC00@phx.gbl>

Thanks, Will.


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:12 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the
> document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this.
>
> I hope this is what you were asking.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:07:05 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:05 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Pac Mate Omni for Sale
Message-ID: <30B6CFD886164672A222D9EB19835DA1@Rufus>

I hope this is not completely off-list, but if there are any attorneys in
search of a notetaker, read below:

Subject: Pac Mate Omni for Sale

I have a Pac Mate Omni BX420 for sale.  The firmware is the latest version,
6.2.  The unit is in excellent condition, including all cells on the Braille
display.

Features:

. Access to the mobile version of Windows PowerPointR . Microsoft's Direct
Push Technology for real time synchronization of e-mail, calendar, contacts,
and tasks . Smart filtering for rapid location of e-mail messages . Easy
information searches via Windows Live Search . Support for the Windows Live
Messenger voice clip feature providing users with "push-to-talk"
functionality in instant messaging . "Plug and Play" support for popular
WiFi and BluetoothR cards

The package will include the following items:

. Pac Mate Omni
. 20 cell Pac Mate portable display
. Plastic backing pieces for both the Pac Mate Omni and display for
independent operation . AC adapter . USB cable . Standard to mini USB
adapter . 1 gig cf card . 128 meg cf card . CF modem adapter . CF Ethernet
adapter . CF wireless adapter and drivers . CF FM tuner and drivers . PCMCIA
adapter . Standard carrying case and included shoulder straps . Executive
products carrying case with included shoulder strap and accessory pouch for
the AC adapter . FS Reader . FSCommander

Alone, this unit is worth $3,795.  This unit, plus accessories, is being
sold at $1,500, including standard shipping.  If interested, please e-mail
me at:

jsorozco at gmail.com

I accept PayPal.

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From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 21 00:21:42 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:21:42 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>

I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there
is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document
you create.

As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more
courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature
wil be important to you.


Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 


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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:30:35 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:30:35 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>
References: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS136DFFF02083EB3CC0325EBBBF0@phx.gbl>

Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.

 And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing my 
name several times and choosing the best and scan it.

I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.

I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!

Take care


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB  Independence
> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
> hours
> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their  assistants. 
> I
> had mine made at Office Max.
> Hope that answers your question.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>
> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
> opposing
>
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 00:41:12 2009
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>
	<SNT128-DS136DFFF02083EB3CC0325EBBBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at 
different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or 
laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner 
of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left 
corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the 
left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps 
use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:46:16 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:46:16 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>
Message-ID: <03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com>

For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four
squares for you to sign in.  They can choose the best signature and scan it
into the computer.  They can then place the signature where it needs to be
in a blank letterhead on your signature block.  If they choose the right
one, it won't even be pixilated.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there
is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document
you create.

As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more
courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature
wil be important to you.


Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 


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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 01:00:59 2009
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:00:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl><AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>
	<03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com>
Message-ID: <003a01ca51e9$f4369c90$280110ac@HP8730notebook>

that's what i said.
if the person wants to know, you can code it into a macro that can be fired 
to complete the entire act of signing a letter from sincerely down to 
esquire.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four
> squares for you to sign in.  They can choose the best signature and scan 
> it
> into the computer.  They can then place the signature where it needs to be
> in a blank letterhead on your signature block.  If they choose the right
> one, it won't even be pixilated.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but 
> there
> is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document
> you create.
>
> As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more
> courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged 
> signature
> wil be important to you.
>
>
> Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From dlb723 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 21 02:37:01 2009
From: dlb723 at comcast.net (Don Brown)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:37:01 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Judge rules for ACB in Social Security case
Message-ID: <2CCF93E3FCB74386924BA27B8BEA52B5@donpc>

Judge Alsup's decision in the ACB vs. SSA case came out today  
(10.20.09):

Judge William Alsup of the US District Court, Northern District of  
California in San Francisco, today issued a judgment in favor of the  
American Council of the Blind (ACB) and two classes of 3,000,000  
individuals with blindness and visual impairments.  The suit  
challenged the Social Security Administration's (SSA) failure to  
provide its critical benefits communications to recipients in  
alternative formats that would enable people with visual impairments  
to have equal access to SSA programs as required by federal disability  
civil rights laws.

This ruling signals a major victory for the disability rights  
movement, and it sets precedent for the obligations of other federal  
and state agencies to accommodate people who are blind or have visual  
impairments. The Social Security Administration (SSA) sends out 390  
million notices and forms each year.  Plaintiffs won the right to  
receive communications in a format that is accessible to them, and  
Judge Alsup ruled that these formats, at a minimum, must include  
Braille and CD.

Here are links to the

Judgment
http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Judgment.pdf

and

Findings of Fact and Conclusions
http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Findings.pdf


From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 07:25:40 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:25:40 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike>

A signature is a signature. Therefore, I sign it and don't worry about it as 
my typed signature appears on the document. I have had no problems with this 
during the many years I was a social worker where I frequently had to sign 
releases and other documents. This also has not been a problem as a 
paralegal. Additionally, I will have a secretary or clerk act as a witness 
when a client is signing forms such as a release of information to make sure 
they have signed it properly.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
>
>
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From b75205 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 15:10:57 2009
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:10:57 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike>
Message-ID: <fe5b78280910210810i58092492ic2c74b3821f1c0d5@mail.gmail.com>

Techie here.  I design documents where the signature is placed at certain
consistent locations on the page and I tell you where it is located by
distance, for instance, a half inch above the bottom edge of the page within
a margin of a half inch on each side of the page, and I do not place any
other content near it so you have room to manuever. But you will not
find designers who are doing this type of thing because they rarely care
about telling you where things are located.

Also they are stuck in the idea that a digital form for the blind must look
exactly the same as a paper form even though the current stock of paper
forms use fonts that are too small to be scanned. Most government forms use
fonts that are tiny and so you cannot use OCR software on them, so where is
the "meeting of the minds" for all of you legal experts?  How do you record
a copy of a document if you cannot scan it and have a copy and why is it
that people think it is your responsibility to determine what is on a page
that is sent to you.  I have noticed that there is a lot of editorial work
done on scans to make them intelligible and that responsibility is placed on
the receiver of a document when it should be the responsibility to
communicate their thoughts from the writer of the document.

Forms designers cannot conceive of the idea of a large print form as a
minimal concern for the blind, let alone using fonts that can be scanned and
used with OCR.  Both are tied together because if you cannot scan the
document, then how do you have a copy you can access?

Digital Signatures in PDF files can have your actual signature as an image
and it binds the page and changes the accessibility of the page so you have
to be careful of how you set those settings and you are limited in the use
to 500 copies of a form due to licensing from Adobe of this technology, so
you don't see this used very often in PDF documents.

Many government agencies require a written signature and do not allow
digital signatures. The Elections Assistance Commission insists on it for
voter registration.

It would solve a lot of problems if a signature field could be signed
electronically so you would not have to know where the signature field was
located on the page, you just sign it when the screen reader finds the
field.

James Pepper

From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 21 18:27:50 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:27:50 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Blindlaw listers:

This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.

Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 19:09:17 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:09:17 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>
	<E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>

It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to.  There are
some letters where that may work.  There are others where it does not.  In
Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, we
are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic signature
and a physical one does not need to be there.

So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in.

I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters that
do not offer specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for advertisement
letters and such.  We never use them for anything case related.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

Blindlaw listers:

This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life
as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.

Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at
different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner
of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left
corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the
left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps
use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
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From parnell at sccoast.net  Wed Oct 21 19:22:14 2009
From: parnell at sccoast.net (Parnell and Kim Diggs)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:22:14 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <D05D82C8D9594786A5E608B8721B2D83@ownerbe272x6xz>

A signature is typically any mark, applied by hand or otherwise, that the 
declarant holds out to be a signature.  This is why notaries and witnesses 
come in handy at times.

Parnell Diggs
President
National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Blindlaw listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my 
> life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
> at different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or 
> laminated guide with a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the 
> corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom 
> left corner of your stamp.
>
> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
> the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so 
> perhaps use a hole punch to do the same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several
>>> hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>> had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>> opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Wed Oct 21 19:43:49 2009
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:43:49 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>
	<E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6789@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

One of my co-workers is quadriplegic.  It took a major amount of doing,
but a rubber stamp was finally approved.  Our office had to file a
"jurat" with both the superior court and the appellate court to certify
that the stamp was her signature.  At the same time, however, our judges
routinely stamp orders, rather than individually signing them.  As with
my co-worker's stamp, it is not a replication of the individual's
signature, but rather a typeface/print stamp of the name.  All in all, I
suppose the legality of the stamp may depend on the jurisdiction.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009 11:28 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

Blindlaw listers:

This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my
life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.

Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line
at different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the
corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the
bottom left corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at
the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so
perhaps use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of
signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a

> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles
Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several

>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots
of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate
this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 21 20:26:47 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:26:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive
 technology with Lexis
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7B6@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Blindlaw listers:

The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would include using Lexis with assistive technology.

Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology?  If so, please send me an e-mail with the information at:

noel.nightingale at ed.gov

Thank you.

Noel Nightingale



From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 21 21:22:43 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:22:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook><E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS290E326F696B213D956A3BBBF0@phx.gbl>

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may work.  There are others where it does not.  In
> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, 
> we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic 
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
> advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
> at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several
>>> hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>> had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>> opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 21:20:05 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:20:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS290E326F696B213D956A3BBBF0@phx.gbl>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook><E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>	<049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>
	<SNT128-DS290E326F696B213D956A3BBBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <051b01ca5294$43b2a8e0$cb17faa0$@com>

There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may work.  There are others where it does not.  In
> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, 
> we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic 
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
> advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
> at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several
>>> hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>> had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>> opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Thu Oct 22 00:16:55 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:16:55 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.
 
Ronza
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 22 01:25:46 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:25:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
References: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS10281E4D12492B3115AB01BBBE0@phx.gbl>

I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation 
of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your 
signature as written by you.

I think that's the rout I will take.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature. 
> Or
> anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.
> Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a 
> signature
> which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings,
> discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put 
> the marks
> made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by
> courts, other attorneys, etc.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:
>
> There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
> That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys
>
> There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as 
> sufficient
> as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it 
> is
> made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys
>
>> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There
>> are
>> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.
> In
>> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most
> cases,
>>  we
>> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic
>> signature
>> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>>
>> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are 
>> in.
>>
>> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters
>> that
>> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for
>>  advertisement
>> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>> Blindlaw  listers:
>>
>> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my
>> life
>> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>>
>> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line
>>  at
>> different places on the pages?
>> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
>> laminated guide with  a l notch.
>> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the
>> corner
>> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
>> corner of your stamp.
>>
>>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at
>
>> the
>> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so
>> perhaps
>> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message  -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>>
>>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of 
>>> signing
>>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>>
>>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>>
>>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>>
>>> Take  care
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>  --------------------------------------------------
>>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>>
>>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>>> Independence
>>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>>  hours
>>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots 
>>>> of
>>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>>> assistants. I
>>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>>
>>>>  Ronza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>>  opposing
>>>>
>>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate
>>>> this
>>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>>
>>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>>
>>>> Take  care.
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
>>>> Hamilton
>>>>  Houston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 03:06:03 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:06:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
References: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
Message-ID: <05f201ca52c4$98961240$c9c236c0$@com>

As someone stated earlier, this depends on the jurisdiction you're in and
the firm you work for.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:17 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a
signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put
the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.
 
Ronza
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Thu Oct 22 03:22:33 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:22:33 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <ca1.654e20cb.381129f9@aol.com>

I suppose you could get both forms.  I went to the printer and told  them I 
wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on  an 
electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores 
after  swiping a credit card.  They then used the image of my original signature 
 to create the stamp.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:

I am  still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation 
of a  signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your  
signature as written by you.

I think that's the rout I will  take.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM
To:  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it  was your  signature. 
> Or
> anyone could look up your  Attorney number online and use  that too.
> Forgery is forgery,  whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a 
>  signature
> which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp  for  pleadings,
> discovery, official notification, and even before  a notery  public.  I 
put 
> the marks
> made by that  stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by
> courts,  other attorneys, etc.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a  message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:
>
> There's  no difference in  the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
> That's the   reason we only used it for advertisements.
>
> -----Original   Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org   [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
> Behalf Of Rod  Alcidonis
> Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
> To:  NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind  attorneys
>
> There is a twist here.  Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as 
> sufficient
> as  a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it 
 
> is
> made from one's signature, what's the difference   between the two?
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
Hamilton
> Houston
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
> From:  "WB"  <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009  3:09  PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"   <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents  as  blind attorneys
>
>> It depends on what instrument you  are affixing the  signature to.  There
>> are
>>  some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does  not.
> In
>> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a  pleading, though in most
> cases,
>>  we
>> are  doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic
>>  signature
>> and a physical one does not need to be   there.
>>
>> So I'm guessing this would be determined by  what  jurisdiction you are 
>> in.
>>
>> I  would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic  letters
>> that
>> do not offer  specific legal advice,  etc.  We only use them for
>>  advertisement
>>  letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case  related.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind  Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents  as blind attorneys
>>
>> Blindlaw   listers:
>>
>> This line of discussion has inspired a  question that  has come up in my
>> life
>> as a power  of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>>
>> Is a  rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal   signature?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Law  Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> are  you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the  
line
>>  at
>> different places on the  pages?
>> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot,  create a cardboard 
or
>> laminated guide with  a l  notch.
>> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of  the  page and the
>> corner
>> of the l notch will  provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom 
left
>> corner  of your stamp.
>>
>>  if you have assistance, ask the  person to punch one staple vertically 
at
>
>> the
>>  left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer  so
>> perhaps
>> use a hole punch to do the   same.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> -----  Original Message  -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis"  <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20,  2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, always   helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I   
need.
>>>
>>> And, thanks for all of the other  suggestions. I  like the idea of 
>>> signing
>>>  my name several times and choosing the  best and scan  it.
>>>
>>> I don't like to use the signature   guide because it it is too long of a
>>> process when one has to  sign  multiple documents at once.
>>>
>>> I think  I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>>
>>>  Take  care
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis,   Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a  social  engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
>>>  Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>   --------------------------------------------------
>>> From:   <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009  6:42  PM
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>  Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys
>>>
>>>> I  used a signature  card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>>>  Independence
>>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I  got to the point of spending  several
>>>>   hours
>>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp  made  for  me.  Lots 
>>>>  of
>>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give  them to their
>>>> assistants. I
>>>>  had  mine made at Office Max.
>>>> Hope that answers your   question.
>>>>
>>>>   Ronza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> How do  you  guys go  about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>>   opposing
>>>>
>>>> parties, etc --  those  of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate
>>>>  this
>>>> task  to an  assistant?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, signing that  it  actually looks  somewhat  legible?
>>>>
>>>> I would  appreciate any  suggestions on this   topic.
>>>>
>>>>  Take  care.
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
>>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>> "A  lawyer is either a social  engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
>>>>  Hamilton
>>>>   Houston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>  blindlaw   mailing  list
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From cdborne at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 03:53:30 2009
From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:53:30 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <ca1.654e20cb.381129f9@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC>

You can also get this done at an Office Depot.  They had me sign my name
larger than usual three times, then they took the best quality and reduced
it to a stamp that was normal signature size.  I had them do it in blue ink
so it looked more like a real signature when compared to the black ink of
the letter.
Craig 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:23 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

I suppose you could get both forms.  I went to the printer and told  them I
wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on  an
electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores after
swiping a credit card.  They then used the image of my original signature
to create the stamp.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:

I am  still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation
of a  signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your
signature as written by you.

I think that's the rout I will  take.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM
To:  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it  was your  signature. 
> Or
> anyone could look up your  Attorney number online and use  that too.
> Forgery is forgery,  whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a  
> signature which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp  for  
> pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before  a notery  
> public.  I
put 
> the marks
> made by that  stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted 
> by courts,  other attorneys, etc.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a  message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:
>
> There's  no difference in  the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
> That's the   reason we only used it for advertisements.
>
> -----Original   Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org   [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
> Behalf Of Rod  Alcidonis
> Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
> To:  NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind  attorneys
>
> There is a twist here.  Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as 
> sufficient as  a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  
> made, but if it
 
> is
> made from one's signature, what's the difference   between the two?
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
Hamilton
> Houston
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
> From:  "WB"  <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009  3:09  PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"   <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents  as  blind attorneys
>
>> It depends on what instrument you  are affixing the  signature to.  
>> There are  some letters where that may  work.  There are others where 
>> it does  not.
> In
>> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a  pleading, though in most
> cases,
>>  we
>> are  doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
>> signature
>> and a physical one does not need to be   there.
>>
>> So I'm guessing this would be determined by  what  jurisdiction you 
>> are in.
>>
>> I  would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic  
>> letters that do not offer  specific legal advice,  etc.  We only use 
>> them for  advertisement  letters and such.  We never use them for 
>> anything  case  related.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind  Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents  as blind attorneys
>>
>> Blindlaw   listers:
>>
>> This line of discussion has inspired a  question that  has come up in 
>> my life as a power  of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>>
>> Is a  rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal   signature?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Law  Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> are  you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the
line
>>  at
>> different places on the  pages?
>> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot,  create a 
>> cardboard
or
>> laminated guide with  a l  notch.
>> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of  the  page and 
>> the corner of the l notch will  provide the correct  x/y position for 
>> the bottom
left
>> corner  of your stamp.
>>
>>  if you have assistance, ask the  person to punch one staple 
>> vertically
at
>
>> the
>>  left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer  
>> so perhaps
>> use a hole punch to do the   same.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> -----  Original Message  -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis"  <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20,  2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, always   helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I   
need.
>>>
>>> And, thanks for all of the other  suggestions. I  like the idea of 
>>> signing  my name several times and choosing the  best and scan  it.
>>>
>>> I don't like to use the signature   guide because it it is too long of a
>>> process when one has to  sign  multiple documents at once.
>>>
>>> I think  I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>>
>>>  Take  care
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis,   Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a  social  engineer or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton  Houston
>>>
>>>   --------------------------------------------------
>>> From:   <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009  6:42  PM
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>  Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys
>>>
>>>> I  used a signature  card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB  
>>>> Independence Market for like $2.  And  when I  got to the point of 
>>>> spending  several
>>>>   hours
>>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp  made  for  me.  
>>>> Lots  of sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give  them to 
>>>> their assistants. I  had  mine made at Office Max.
>>>> Hope that answers your   question.
>>>>
>>>>   Ronza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight  
>>>> Time,  roddj12 at hotmail.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> How do  you  guys go  about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>>   opposing
>>>>
>>>> parties, etc --  those  of us who  aren't able or willing to 
>>>> delegate  this task  to an  assistant?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, signing that  it  actually looks  somewhat  legible?
>>>>
>>>> I would  appreciate any  suggestions on this   topic.
>>>>
>>>>  Take  care.
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
>>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>> "A  lawyer is either a social  engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>>> Hamilton
>>>>   Houston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From marks at accessingenuity.com  Thu Oct 22 04:07:10 2009
From: marks at accessingenuity.com (Mark Stimson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:07:10 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive
	technology with Lexis
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Message-ID: <002501ca52cd$2823f960$786bec20$@com>

Hi Noel, I have recently spoken to someone there about screen reader access.
This particular person was the contact person I was given, but she is not
the most knowledgeable about the access issues.  She does however know the
two individuals that are employees at Lexis who are JAWS users, and are
supposedly very knowledgeable.  So, in a nutshell, contact the person below
to get her contacts.

Michele Wyllie
Lexis-Nexis
(415) 829-8429


Best regards, Mark
Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Accessibility Specialist
www.DocumentAccessibility.com
www.AccessIngenuity.com

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Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive
technology with Lexis

Blindlaw listers:

The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a
continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would
include using Lexis with assistive technology.

Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using
Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology?  If so, please
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From b75205 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 07:29:01 2009
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:29:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC>
References: <ca1.654e20cb.381129f9@aol.com>
	<28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC>
Message-ID: <fe5b78280910220029n19bbdc43x736d999a2e38fda5@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps it is time to bring back the old signet ring where you press your
ring into wax to seal a document like the romans used to do!  That way you
would have the mark on your person at all times.

James Pepper

From pattichang at att.net  Thu Oct 22 12:35:24 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang )
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:35:24 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <LL6kyJGQF433.TdzXgXCy@smtp.att.yahoo.com>

Our entire court system uses electronic signatures.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
Date: 10/21/2009 8:04 PM

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.

Ronza


In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 

> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 18:45:46 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone in Houston
Message-ID: <087901ca5347$dfa757b0$9ef60710$@com>

Hi everyone!

 

If there is anyone in Houston, would you please contact me off-list?  I want
to share some information with you.

 

Thanks so much.

 

William

mruniverse08 at gmail.com 


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 15:41:05 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:41:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
Message-ID: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>

I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury  
duty.  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report  
tomorrow.  I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury  
because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what  
I can expect.  The thing is, I really need even the small amount of  
money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can  
someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know  
what to expect?  My current plan is to show up at the court house  
tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I  cannot at this time  
afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.  Is there an alternate plan  
I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and  
apologize.
Thanks for any information.

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!




From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 25 17:16:28 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:16:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ>

There are no blanket exclusions for anyone to serve on a jury in California.
When you go through the security check at the Courthouse, ask one of the
officers where you should go and someone will help you. 


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty

I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury  
duty.  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report  
tomorrow.  I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury  
because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what  
I can expect.  The thing is, I really need even the small amount of  
money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can  
someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know  
what to expect?  My current plan is to show up at the court house  
tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I  cannot at this time  
afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.  Is there an alternate plan  
I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and  
apologize.
Thanks for any information.

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 18:02:33 2009
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:02:33 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8c58e54a0910251102x5a5d8b75kdc9c6b9046dcb8ee@mail.gmail.com>

I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse
to not show up.  They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in
order to actually be on a jury.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> wrote:

> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty.
>  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow.  I
> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my
> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect.  The
> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by
> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can someone familiar with the
> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect?  My current
> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in
> hand, but I  cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.
>  Is there an alternate plan I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this
> sort of thing, and apologize.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ <http://markburninghawk.net/>
> Namaste!
>
>
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From habnkid at aol.com  Sun Oct 25 18:34:28 2009
From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
Message-ID: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>

Hello Listers,

I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if 
it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT 
score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations 
I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate 
argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further 
complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's 
just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to 
get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are 
very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact 
that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it 
based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the 
mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score 
differently due to my blindness?

best,
Haben


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 18:53:31 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:53:31 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ>
Message-ID: <2C44720D-40B9-4948-86C0-516D5DFDE8B3@sbcglobal.net>

Yes, thank you; this is my plan, to show up with summons in hand and  
request whatever accommodations may be available.  If I get struck, I  
get struck.  Thanks to all who have responded to my inquiries on this  
matter.

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!




From pattichang at att.net  Sun Oct 25 19:21:04 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang )
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:04 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
Message-ID: <LVPWJsc4YxML.wcCmrg8s@smtp.att.yahoo.com>

In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty
From: Michael Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com>
Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM

I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse
to not show up.  They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in
order to actually be on a jury.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> wrote:

> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty.
>  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow.  I
> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my
> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect.  The
> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by
> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can someone familiar with the
> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect?  My current
> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in
> hand, but I  cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.
>  Is there an alternate plan I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this
> sort of thing, and apologize.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ <http://markburninghawk.net/>
> Namaste!
>
>
>
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From goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 19:29:52 2009
From: goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net (Sarah Clark)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:29:52 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2>

Haben,
For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think that law 
schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of other blind 
students that have applied to/attended their school.
I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school."  Its 
possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its too 
low for a top 20 school.  I know of someone who recently went to UCLA with a 
similar score.  Of course, the caliber of undergrad school you went to and 
your performance there also makes a difference.  She had went to Stanford 
for undergrad and did very well there.  Her name is Stephanie Enyart.  I 
don't know where her contact info is offhand, but you can probably track her 
down.  Maybe she's on this list? She also applied to and was accepted to 
other top 20 schools, so you should be able to get some good input from her 
on applying.  She also headed a national organization for law students with 
disabilities, so undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that 
she herself went through the application process.
Good luck.

Sarah




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?


> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it 
> would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score 
> is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I 
> requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
> that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument 
> to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating 
> this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. 
> According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a 
> top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. 
> Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took 
> the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those 
> conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? 
> Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my 
> blindness?
>
> best,
> Haben
>
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From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 25 19:37:43 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:37:43 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A40D0858990346C788360690E6C524CC@russ>

162 is an excellent score. However, you must be very realistic about what
that score gets you today.  Whether you are blind or sighted, that score
will probably not get you into a top tier law school.  If you received
accommodations, then mentioning your visual impairment would be viewed as an
excuse.

It would be better to mention your blindness at some point in your personal
statement, and let those who will decide on your admission know that bit of
personal information about you.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Haben Girma
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?

Hello Listers,

I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if 
it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT 
score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations 
I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate 
argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further 
complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's 
just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to 
get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are 
very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact 
that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it 
based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the 
mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score 
differently due to my blindness?

best,
Haben

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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sun Oct 25 20:13:01 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:13:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E70BA38746D440BDAAD6B5BA73C1B367@StevePC>

What school are your going for?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:34 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?


> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if
> it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT
> score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations
> I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear
> that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate
> argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further
> complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's
> just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to
> get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are
> very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact
> that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it
> based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the
> mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score
> differently due to my blindness?
>
> best,
> Haben
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sun Oct 25 20:14:43 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:14:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <LVPWJsc4YxML.wcCmrg8s@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
References: <LVPWJsc4YxML.wcCmrg8s@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F0C7DECE72C7450EA83ED5344CE1C5A9@StevePC>

No, but it is my understanding that most attorneys will exclude blind 
individuals from cases.  Is this true?  Any stats in that particular area?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patti chang" <pattichang at att.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL.
>
> Patti Gregory-Chang
> President, NFBI
> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty
> From: Michael Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com>
> Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM
>
> I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an 
> excuse
> to not show up.  They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in
> order to actually be on a jury.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk 
> <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
>> wrote:
>
>> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury 
>> duty.
>>  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. 
>> I
>> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my
>> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. 
>> The
>> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by
>> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can someone familiar with 
>> the
>> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect?  My current
>> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons 
>> in
>> hand, but I  cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to 
>> walk.
>>  Is there an alternate plan I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about 
>> this
>> sort of thing, and apologize.
>> Thanks for any information.
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ <http://markburninghawk.net/>
>> Namaste!
>>
>>
>>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 26 22:51:26 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:26 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>

You can delay or postpone your summons for up to a year so if you need to 
delay it until you can get there you will be able to do so. Your information 
about blind people sitting on juries is outdated. Blind people can and do 
serve on juries. When I was called for jury duty I was going to be seated as 
an alternate on a wrongful death medical malpractice case and was dismissed 
not because of my being blind but because the defense attorney representing 
the doctor charged wanted to know the names of attorneys that I had worked 
for. As they were either plaintiff attorneys or criminal defense attorneys 
he felt that I would have a bias in favor of the plaintiff. Of course, this 
is the actual scenario that I expected would happen and I told this to 
another prospective juror that I was waiting with. I hope this still helps 
as I am just getting caught up on emails as I was at California NFB 
convention this week end. Contact me off list if you need to about this.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty


>I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury 
>duty.  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report 
>tomorrow.  I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury 
>because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what  I 
>can expect.  The thing is, I really need even the small amount of  money I 
>might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can  someone 
>familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know  what to 
>expect?  My current plan is to show up at the court house  tomorrow morning 
>with the summons in hand, but I  cannot at this time  afford a cab or bus, 
>so will have to walk.  Is there an alternate plan  I should follow?  I'm 
>very ignorant about this sort of thing, and  apologize.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 26 23:35:16 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:35:16 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DC269F11E45F4A4A9C17E9FC0A13C368@spike>

one option might be to take it again now that you are familoiar with the 
test. If your score is higher they will then use the higher score.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?


> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it 
> would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score 
> is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I 
> requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
> that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument 
> to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating 
> this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. 
> According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a 
> top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. 
> Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took 
> the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those 
> conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? 
> Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my 
> blindness?
>
> best,
> Haben
>
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From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 00:08:59 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:59 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
Message-ID: <BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>

Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others,  
and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were  
all sent home on the first day.  It was an honorable dismissal, and by  
that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to  
fulfill my duty.  So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide- 
dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Tue Oct 27 01:34:59 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:34:59 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <93D7B0490B524A7996D2990FD8ABD6C1@StevePC>

Good job!
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others,
> and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were
> all sent home on the first day.  It was an honorable dismissal, and by
> that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to
> fulfill my duty.  So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide-
> dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :)
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 02:17:23 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:17:23 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net><CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>

You won't get called again for at least the next year.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others,  and 
> all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were  all sent 
> home on the first day.  It was an honorable dismissal, and by  that time I 
> was just as glad to get out, having done my best to  fulfill my duty.  So, 
> while it was an interesting exercise in guide- dog/GPS field mobility, no 
> actual jury duty was done. :)
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From habnkid at aol.com  Tue Oct 27 03:31:42 2009
From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:31:42 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
	<00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2>
Message-ID: <4AE6699E.5080201@aol.com>


Sarah and Russell, thanks for the advice. By "top school" I mean one of 
the top ten, but partiuclarly I would really love to get into UC 
Berkeley or Stanford. I do need to be realistic, I have a better chance 
of getting into a top 20 school than a top 5. I appreciate getting 
feedback from other blind law students. Stephanie has been very helpful 
over the summer, I'll email her and see what she has to add.

thanks,
Haben

On 10/25/2009 12:29 PM, Sarah Clark wrote:
> Haben,
> For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think 
> that law schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of 
> other blind students that have applied to/attended their school.
> I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school."  Its 
> possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its 
> too low for a top 20 school.  I know of someone who recently went to 
> UCLA with a similar score.  Of course, the caliber of undergrad school 
> you went to and your performance there also makes a difference.  She 
> had went to Stanford for undergrad and did very well there.  Her name 
> is Stephanie Enyart.  I don't know where her contact info is offhand, 
> but you can probably track her down.  Maybe she's on this list? She 
> also applied to and was accepted to other top 20 schools, so you 
> should be able to get some good input from her on applying.  She also 
> headed a national organization for law students with disabilities, so 
> undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that she herself 
> went through the application process.
> Good luck.
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
>
>
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering 
>> if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my 
>> LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the 
>> accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went 
>> according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse 
>> rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test 
>> taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT 
>> score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law 
>> adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the 
>> way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools 
>> look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under 
>> very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? 
>> Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would 
>> it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my 
>> blindness?
>>
>> best,
>> Haben
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
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>
>
>
>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 12:53:55 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:53:55 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
Message-ID: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>

Folks,

 

Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?

 

The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools
in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
appreciate it.

 

Thanks!

 

William


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 14:52:07 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:52:07 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net><CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
	<7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>
Message-ID: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net>

Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll  
just throw myself off the bridge. :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



From benkarpilow at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 17:32:13 2009
From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:32:13 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
Message-ID: <9733773B71364F41AE30279E22A3A95F@benbpgavlhgwwr>

William, I suggest you contact the Los Angeles County Bar Association and 
ask them about local paralegal programs.

Ben



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> Folks,
>
>
>
> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>
>
>
> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal 
> programs/schools
> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
> appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> William
>
> _______________________________________________
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Tue Oct 27 17:35:07 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:35:07 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
	<7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>
	<2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7D6087BE9743413EB772119C47F179C7@StevePC>

You hang in there man!  I'm sure something will happen for you that is good.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll
> just throw myself off the bridge. :)
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
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From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 27 23:06:50 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:06:50 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
Message-ID: <A1C18EBCC7E8425983D106523A84E4F4@RThomas>

U.C. Irvine has an excellent program. A B.A. degree is a prerequisite. There
are many other schools that offer such programs, ranging from the very good
to the very bad. Do a Google search for Paralegal schools in Los Angeles or
Orange County and see what comes up.



Respectfully,

 

Russell J. Thomas, Jr.

THOMAS & ASSOCIATES

www.californiaemployersattorneys.com

 

Orange County Office                      

4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101

Newport Beach, California 92660                             

T: (949) 752-0101                             

F: (949) 257-4756

M: (949) 466-7238

 

Beverly Hills Office

9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450

Beverly Hills, California 90210 

T: (310) 461-3561

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:54 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California

Folks,

 

Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?

 

The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools
in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
appreciate it.

 

Thanks!

 

William

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From benkarpilow at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 01:13:11 2009
From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:13:11 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone practicing workers compensation law?
Message-ID: <0B6215BB22614433AF5F104E953BA24C@benbpgavlhgwwr>

Hello listers, do any of you practice in the area of worker's compensation law?If so, I'd be interested in hearing about your practice techniques. Feel free to contact me off list at

benkarpilow at gmail.com

Thanks, Ben


From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 04:24:34 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:24:34 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
Message-ID: <C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>

    The following resources may be of help.
California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide 
organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
www.caparalegal.org
Paralegal Network
http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network 
for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the 
paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal 
Advanced Competency Exam
www.paralegals.org
Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> Folks,
>
>
>
> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>
>
>
> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal 
> programs/schools
> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
> appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> William
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Oct 28 05:00:02 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:00:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with
 United States Department of Education
Message-ID: <auto-000123747193@mailfront1.g2host.com>



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org


National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with
United States Department of Education




Inaccessible Web Site U.S.A. Learns Discriminates Against the Blind



Baltimore, Maryland (October 27, 2009): The National Federation of 
the Blind (NFB), the nation's oldest and largest organization of 
blind people and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind 
to information technology, and Carlos Mora, a blind resident of 
Baltimore, Maryland, filed an administrative complaint today with the 
United States Department of Education.  The complaint asserts that 
one of the United States Department of Education's Web sites, U.S.A 
Learns, violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act because it is 
inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech screen access 
technology or Braille displays to access information on the 
Internet.  Because of the inaccessibility of the U.S.A Learns Web 
site, blind people cannot access or navigate through the content of 
the English vocabulary, spelling, and pronunciation lessons that are 
offered through the site.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "In an age where the Internet is a part of everyday life, blind 
people must have equal access to the information and resources 
provided on the World Wide Web.  In particular, the United States 
government has a legal and moral obligation to ensure that the 
information it provides on the Internet is equally accessible to all 
in America, including the blind.  It is especially ironic that the 
Department of Education, which is commissioned to provide educational 
opportunities for all, would deny blind people access to a Web site 
that provides instructive tools for those who speak English as a 
second language.  This is unacceptable and we demand equal access for 
all blind people."

Carlos Mora, a blind individual from Baltimore, Maryland, said: "I 
work full time and have been accepted to a master's degree program at 
Johns Hopkins University, and English is my second language.  I 
attempted to use the U.S.A. Learns Web site to prepare for my 
everyday life and my future studies by practicing English vocabulary, 
spelling, and pronunciation, but the Web site was not accessible to 
me.  It is frustrating to be denied access to any Web site, but it is 
especially so when I am being denied access to a Web site with 
educational tools that would help me to become a more active and 
productive member of American society."



This is the third complaint filed by the National Federation of the 
Blind on behalf of blind people in America regarding the 
inaccessibility of a federal government Web site.  The NFB plans to 
file complaints about other inaccessible federal government Web sites 
as the organization continues to receive multiple reports from blind 
people of barriers they have faced while trying to access government 
information, programs, and services on the Internet.



Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and 
Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore 
Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, Maryland  21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: 
(410) 385-0869, <mailto:dfg at browngold.com>dfg at browngold.com, 
<mailto:ah at browngold.com>ah at browngold.com, 
<http://www.browngold.com/>www.browngold.com.





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About the National Federation of the Blind



With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind 
is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind 
people in the United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives 
through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs 
encouraging independence and self-confidence.  It is the leading 
force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's 
blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in 
the United States for the blind led by the blind.


From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Wed Oct 28 16:17:09 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:17:09 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>
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	<C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>
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Chuck:

How much work is out there for new paralegal folks?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


>    The following resources may be of help.
> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide
> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
> www.caparalegal.org
> Paralegal Network
> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network
> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the
> paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal
> Advanced Competency Exam
> www.paralegals.org
> Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>
>
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal
>> programs/schools
>> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would 
>> really
>> appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 18:18:17 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:18:17 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com><C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>
	<84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC>
Message-ID: <F07D9C0808B446AA98616F62271F1845@spike>

This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded and 
with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their 
support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in 
others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal 
secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door. 
Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms 
that would not require full time paralegal services.
It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well as 
there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such as 
public policy or legislative analysts, etc.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> Chuck:
>
> How much work is out there for new paralegal folks?
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>
>
>>    The following resources may be of help.
>> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide
>> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
>> www.caparalegal.org
>> Paralegal Network
>> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
>> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network
>> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the
>> paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal
>> Advanced Competency Exam
>> www.paralegals.org
>> Chuck
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>>
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal
>>> programs/schools
>>> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
>>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would 
>>> really
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>>
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>
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Wed Oct 28 19:46:08 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:46:08 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
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Thanks.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded 
> and
> with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their
> support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in
> others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal
> secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door.
> Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms
> that would not require full time paralegal services.
> It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well 
> as
> there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such 
> as
> public policy or legislative analysts, etc.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>
>
>> Chuck:
>>
>> How much work is out there for new paralegal folks?
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>>
>>
>>>    The following resources may be of help.
>>> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide
>>> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
>>> www.caparalegal.org
>>> Paralegal Network
>>> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
>>> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide 
>>> network
>>> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the
>>> paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal
>>> Advanced Competency Exam
>>> www.paralegals.org
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>>>
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal
>>>> programs/schools
>>>> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
>>>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would
>>>> really
>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From craig.borne at dot.gov  Fri Oct 30 14:01:40 2009
From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:01:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Scholarship Opportunity for MBA program in North
	Carolina
Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E82412B@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov>

 
FREE MASTERS PROGRAM AT WAKE FOREST RECEIVES POOR RESPONSE 
 
Wake Forest University has an opportunity for minority students to
attend its MBA program for FREE, and so far, the response has been very
poor. Please, pass along this opportunity to your friends, families, and
networks to see if there is an interest. This is a great school and a
tremendous opportunity to attend a top graduate school. 
 
See details below.  The contact person information is: 
 
Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D. 
Associate Professor of Marketing 
Room 3139 Worrell Professional Center 
Babcock Graduate School of Management 
Wake Forest University 1834 Wake 
Forest Drive Winston-Salem , NC 27109-8758 
 
email:              derrick.boone at ... 
Website:          http://mba.wfu.edu/ <http://mba.wfu.edu/>  
Phone:             (336)..758.4475; 
Toll-free:          (866) 925-3622; 
Fax:                 336.758.4514 
 
Message from Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D.: 
 
Greetings, I wanted to let you know about a great opportunity here at
Wake Forest where you can get a FREE education and get PAID while you're
doing it. Our Dean of the Schools of Business is the former CEO of
PepsiCo and very committed to diversity. He's gone around to his CEO
friends, who have agreed to donate a bunch of money to pay tuition and
fees, provide a stipend, and a job, to diverse students. The details are
below. The problem is, response to the program has been dismal! As a
faculty member, I would be embarrassed for him to have to tell his CEO
friends, "thanks so much for your donation, but unfortunately I have to
give it back because we couldn't find Any students who wanted it." So, I
need your help. Please contact me if you, or ANYONE you know is
interested in the program. I want to help out as many young scholars as
I can. Don't worry about whether or not you (or they) have taken the
GMAT, etc. All you need to do at this point is JUST APPLY. 
 
About the Program: The Master of Art in Management program is designed
specifically for liberal arts majors only. The MA degree program is a 10
month intense study of the basic functional areas of  Business. After
graduation and working for approximately two years, all MA graduates are
eligible to apply to Wake Forest as part of the MA/MBA joint degree
program and get the MBA in one year. The new Dean, Steve Reinemund, has
created a new scholarship for diverse students pursuing the MA degree
called the Corporate Fellowship. 
 
The Corporate Fellowship provides full tuition and a $21,000 stipend to
cover living expenses. Additionally, each Corporate Fellow will
participate in a practicum. The practicum has two components,
educational and professional development. Each student will be assigned
a mentor that is a high level executive with their sponsor corporation.
The mentor will oversee an educational project covering 4 of the
functional areas of business using their own corporation as the subject.

 
The student will visit the corporation 3 - 4 times during the program to
present his/her results of their research project. Additionally, the
"professional development" component of the fellowship provides career
coaching and leadership development for the students. 
 
The goal for the corporation is to be able to groom and hopefully, hire
a top candidate from a diverse background for their organization. Of
course, there is no obligation that the students accept any offer of
employment. Still, the student benefits, even if they are not ultimately
hired by their sponsor corporation in that they have the MA degree and
the type of experience that will make them more marketable. 
 





From dandrews at visi.com  Sat Oct 31 16:36:52 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:36:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Social Security Told to Modernize for the Blind
Message-ID: <auto-000124350862@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Subject: Social Security told to modernize for the blind

Social Security told to modernize for the blind

Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

(10-20) 17:17 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- The Social Security Administration
must
give the nation's 3 million blind or visually impaired recipients the
option
of receiving benefit notices in braille or by audio computer disc, a
federal
judge in San Francisco said Tuesday.

Ruling in a nationwide class-action suit, U.S. District Judge William
Alsup
said that by sending notices only by mail and phone calls, the agency is
violating
a law that guarantees the disabled equal access to its programs. He
ordered
the government to make the additional choices available by April 15.

The case involves some of the 100 million notices the Social Security
Administration sends each year to its 61 million beneficiaries, advising
them of scheduled
appointments, program changes, tax filings and possible benefit cuts.

About 250,000 Americans receive benefits because of blindness, and
another
2.7 million blind or sight-impaired people get Social Security for other
reasons.

Under rules authorized by Congress in 1988 and 1990, they can choose to
be
notified of agency actions by mail, with a follow-up phone call, or by
certified
mail with a return receipt. Those who make no choice are contacted by
mail
without a phone call.

Alsup said the current system may have been effective 20 years ago, but
no
longer provides the "meaningful access" the law requires, in light of
advanced
technology.

Little evidence was presented that blind people had lost benefits
because of
inadequate notice, Alsup said, but the current system is ineffective for
at
least some recipients.

For example, he said, a blind person who needs to respond to a written
notice must wait until someone is available to read it aloud, and may
have
problems
meeting government deadlines.

Alsup said the Social Security Administration refused to acknowledge
that it
was even covered by the anti-discrimination law until after the suit was
filed
in 2005, and "has been quick to find lame excuses for noncompliance."

The agency must inform all blind and visually impaired recipients by
Dec. 31
that they will have the choice of getting notices in braille or by
Microsoft
Word CD in mid-April, Alsup said. He said those who want another option,
such as notification by e-mail, must be allowed to request it and show
why
they
need it.

"This is a huge benefit," said attorney Silvia Yee of the Disability
Rights
Education and Defense Fund in Berkeley, a lawyer for the plaintiffs. She
said
the ruling will allow many recipients "to have an independence in
working
with the (Social Security Administration) that they've never had
before."

Many sight-impaired recipients, particularly the young and those who
become
blind later in life, can't read braille, Yee said, "but for people who
do
read
braille, it's their first choice." She said the CD option would
particularly
help younger recipients.

Lowell Kepke, spokesman for the Social Security Administration's
regional
office in Richmond, said the agency "will review the order and take
whatever
actions
are appropriate."



From withat at msn.com  Sat Oct 31 17:56:30 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:30 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>

Hello all,
I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this.

I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.

Thanks much.

Jay in Oregon

From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Sat Oct 31 21:24:08 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:24:08 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
Message-ID: <cbf.4a5598b2.381e04f8@aol.com>

Jay,
 
Welcome to the list.
 
You raise an excellent point.  I had the same problem trying to figure  out 
the big picture with the outline method at first.  I ultimately  developed 
the habit of creating two outlines.  The first one was a really  general big 
picture sort - less than a page.  Think of it as a sort of  table of 
contents, if you want.  I even went back and added page numbers to  my other 
outline later.  I modeled this one-pager after the course sylabus  outline.  I 
also created it near the beginning of the semester so that I  had a sense of 
where we were headed.  I've pasted portions of that  one-pager at the bottom 
of this email for your reference.
 
Then I would take that really general "big picture" outline and fill it in  
with specific cases, concepts, and exceptions.  So I might include things  
like "definition" or a specific case name and short description under one of 
the  subcategories.  By the time the term ended, I'd have just as long an  
outline as everyone else, but I also had the one-pager, which was great for  
little cram sessions and to keep me grounded.  In fact, I actually compiled 
 all the one-pagers and used them to help me study for the bar exam.
 
Let me know if you want me to send you other examples.
 
Good luck,
Ronza
 
 
Course Title: Torts
I. Intentional Torts
A. Assault
B. Battery
C. False Imprisonment
D. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED)
E. Trespass to Land
...
II. Harm to Economic and Dignitary Interests
A. Defamation
B. Invasion of Privacy
C. Misrepresentation
D. Interference with Business Relations
...
III. Negligence
A. Prima Facia Case
    1. Duty
    2. Breach
    3. Causation
    4. Damages
B. Defenses
    1. Contributory Negligence
    2. Comparative Negligence
    3. Assumption of Risk
    4. Strict Liability
...

 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
withat at msn.com writes:

Hello  all,
I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a  recent 
thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This  is my first year 
in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question  whether the typical 
method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters,  etc. with 
indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be  hard to see the big 
picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like  this.

I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.

Thanks  much.

Jay in  Oregon
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Oct  1 01:59:11 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:59:11 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA
	REGULATIONS
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Date: September 24, 2009

FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers
1-800-949-4232

PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS

The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to
regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA),
as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008.  The regulatory changes,
contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced by the U.S.
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on providing
individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination under Title
I of the ADA with a more expansive definition
of "disability."  Written comments must be submitted on or before November
23, 2009.

The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed into
law by the President in July 1990.  The EEOC is responsible for enforcing
Title I of the ADA, which prohibits employment discrimination against
individuals with disabilities.  The ADA requires employers to make
reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities.

"We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC."  "People
with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are fully
implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best that
they can be."

The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the
regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for public
comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment
discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets the
ADA's definitions of "disability."  The ADA Amendments Act also modifies the
Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment discrimination in the
federal workforce on the basis of disability.

The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the definition of
disability-an impairment that poses a substantial limitation in a major life
activity-must be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the
maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA, and should not require
extensive analysis.

The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major bodily
functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as medications and
devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects of impairment,
are not to be considered when determining whether a person has a disability.
They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in remission, such
as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric impairments, are
disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life activities when
active.

--MORE--

Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way of
demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity of
working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for determining
whether someone is regarded as having a disability.

The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is
posted on the EEOC website, 
<http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html>http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html 

along with a
question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions for submitting
public comments to the Commission.

You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How:

Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn,  Executive
Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, 131
M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507.

Comments submitted by fax.  As a convenience to commenters, the Executive
Secretariat  will accept comments transmitted by facsimile (``FAX'')
machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) 663-4114. (This
is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or fewer pages will be
accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to the equipment. Receipt of
FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, except that the sender may
request confirmation of receipt by calling the Executive Secretariat
staff at (202) 663-4070 (voice) or (202) 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not
toll-free telephone numbers.)

Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and
attachments electronically at 
<http://www.regulations.gov>http://www.regulations.gov , which is the
Federal eRulemaking Portal. Follow the instructions online for submitting
comments. Copies of comments submitted by the public will be available for
review at the Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R,
Washington, DC 20507, between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be
reviewed at <http://www.regulations.gov>http://www.regulations.gov.

###




From stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  1 03:37:19 2009
From: stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com (Stephanie Enyart)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:37:19 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <59E75F8EAB48470BAB9D6E4843DA1648@SLIM>
Message-ID: <2993331CBBC34D2BA45BF749C4716C6E@DF5R2QD1>

Hi Bruce,
I would be happy to share the strategies I used. I ca be reached easiest via
cell on nights and weekends: 415.596.6050. I live in Berkeley too.
Best,
Stephanie 

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Bruce Sexton Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)

Hello,

I am enrolled in a LSAT preparation class.  It's going well!  Do any of you 
have tricks you've used to diagram for logical reasoning and or logic games?

I know Deepa has used a magnet board, but I am interested in how other 
people have diagrammed so that all the information is represented, and all 
connections and inferences can be made.  The teacher is using dashes, arrows

and offshoots that divide two things, very much like a family tree!  Any 
tips or tricks are greatly appreciated!

Thank You,
Bruce Sexton Jr.
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From David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us  Thu Oct  1 21:58:47 2009
From: David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us (David B Andrews)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:58:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: 2010 Washington Seminar
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 >>> "Pare, John" <JPare at nfb.org> 10/1/2009 3:37 PM >>>

Fellow Federationists:



The dates for Washington Seminar are:



Monday, February 1 through Thursday, February 4, 2010

Great Gathering-In--Monday, February 1, 2010, 5 PM

Congressional Appointments--February 2 through February 4, 2010



             The following message comes from Diane McGeorge who 
organizes much of the logistics of Washington Seminar.



* * *

             Please make your hotel reservations as soon as 
possible.  We need to have reservations no later than December 30, 
2009.  Please do not contact the hotel to make your reservations.  I 
submit all the reservations for the Washington Seminar.  You may call 
(303) 778-1130, extension 219, to make your reservation, or you may 
e-mail your reservations to Lisa Bonder son at 
<mailto:lbonderson at cocenter.org>lbonderson at cocenter.org.  We will 
confirm receipt of your reservation either by return e-mail or by 
telephone, so be sure to give us your telephone number and your 
e-mail address.



             The following is the information that I need to have to 
assure you of a room at the Holiday Inn Capitol.



1.      Your date of arrival and departure.



2.      First and last names of any roommates that might be sharing 
with you.  If you make the reservation by phone, please spell first 
and last names of each person sharing the room.  Please include 
arrival and departure date for each person.



3.      Please specify if you wish to have:



             A smoking or non-smoking room

             An accessible room

             Two beds, one queen bed, or one king bed

             A rollaway bed (there will be a $10 charge per night)



4.      If Divisions (i.e., Students, Parents, Merchants, Lawyers, 
etc.) wish to have space for a meeting, I must have your requirements 
for meeting space no later than December 1, 2009.  We want to be able 
to accommodate everyone, and in order to do so we must have plenty of 
advance notice to work with the hotel.



             Per the hotel contract, individual cancellation must be 
made at least seventy-two hours prior to the date of arrival to avoid 
one-night's-room-plus-tax cancellation charge.  You must get in touch 
with Lisa Bonder son or me to make changes to your reservation as 
soon as possible to avoid such a charge.



             The rates are $154 for single, double, triple, or quad 
rooms, and the tax is 14.5 percent per night.  When you check in you 
must be prepared to cover at least the first night of your stay with 
either a credit card or check, and then arrange to pay the balance by 
presenting a credit card or a check for the remainder of the cost.



             Please remember, the deadline is December 30, 
2009.  There will be a number of special meetings during the seminar 
and you will want to watch the NFB Web site for special 
announcements.  The Great Gathering-In meeting will be held on 
Monday, February 1, 2009.  You certainly don't want to miss that.



             I hope this answers all of your questions.  I look 
forward to seeing all of you in D.C. in February.


Diane McGeorge


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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  3 09:49:16 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:49:16 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
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Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G

By STEPHANIE FARR
Philadelphia Daily News

farrs at phillynews.com
 215-854-4225

Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia
woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.

John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.

So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently
protected its blind customers.

"This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.

In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute
or that she had defrauded his credit card.

She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances,
according to court documents.

That case also was dismissed.

Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.

He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.

He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount
- usually $750 for two hours.

But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according
to court records.

Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services.

He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill.

When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said.

In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use
their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.

In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal,
hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents.

It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said.

When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother
me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary
board."

In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.

"If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men."

He said that he had the chutzpah
 to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay."

"They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.

Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents.

When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil,
who did not return calls for comment.

Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous."

"I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.

In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."

In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because
they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement.

Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation."

Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the
ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.

Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies.

"I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access
to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." 

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From james.weisberg at comcast.net  Sat Oct  3 12:53:02 2009
From: james.weisberg at comcast.net (James)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:53:02 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv
Message-ID: <E143EA5029F24DC6AFCE361711519FE6@james9f5240517>

I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society.  There was a post last week and the info was incomplete.  See below.

 

  _____  

From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM
To: james.weisberg at comcast.net
Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv

 

James,


Thanks for your help with this!  I drafted a post that is below my signature line.  

 

Victoria Thomas
ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow
American Diabetes Association
1701 North Beauregard Street
Alexandria, VA 22311
 
Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124
Fax: (703) 549-8748 
E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org 
www.diabetes.org/discrimination 

 

There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's upcoming attorney training and attorney network.  In addition to training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination.  Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, below.  The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from around the country.

 

Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law information, resources, and questions are frequently posted.  You can check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp

 

Still Time To Register

Fighting For Fairness 2009: 

Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes

A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to  attend â€œFighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24.  The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and disability discrimination law. 

 

FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students or workers with diabetes.  Specifically FFF 2009 will include:

*	Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act  make this an important and timely program. 
*	Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes discrimination in employment and school 
*	Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems 
*	Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources to assist in diabetes-related litigation

To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness.  Applicants will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis.  Some scholarship funding is available to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's needs.

 

Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes.  Contact Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any questions.


American Diabetes Association
Cure. Care. Commitment.


Visit us at http://diabetes.org
Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383)


From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sat Oct  3 15:06:39 2009
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:06:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
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The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! 
Ray Wayne


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Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G

>
>
> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
> 
> By STEPHANIE FARR
> Philadelphia Daily News
> 
> farrs at phillynews.com
>  215-854-4225
> 
> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia
> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
> 
> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
> 
> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently
> protected its blind customers.
> 
> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
> 
> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute
> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
> 
> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances,
> according to court documents.
> 
> That case also was dismissed.
> 
> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
> 
> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
> 
> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt �� which he couldn't see �� that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount
> �� usually $750 for two hours.
> 
> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according
> to court records.
> 
> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services.
> 
> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill.
> 
> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said.
> 
> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use
> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
> 
> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal,
> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents.
> 
> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
> 
> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother
> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary
> board."
> 
> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
> 
> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men."
> 
> He said that he had the chutzpah
>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay."
> 
> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
> 
> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents.
> 
> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil,
> who did not return calls for comment.
> 
> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous."
> 
> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
> 
> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
> 
> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because
> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement.
> 
> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation."
> 
> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the
> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
> 
> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies.
> 
> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access
> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." 
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sat Oct  3 16:37:42 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
In-Reply-To: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>
References: <SNT128-DS407B09F8A93F3818BFC6FBBD10@phx.gbl>
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Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G


> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>, "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>
>>
>>
>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>
>> By STEPHANIE FARR
>> Philadelphia Daily News
>>
>> farrs at phillynews.com
>>  215-854-4225
>>
>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is 
>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a 
>> Philadelphia
>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
>>
>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he 
>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
>>
>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged 
>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had 
>> not sufficiently
>> protected its blind customers.
>>
>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said 
>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
>>
>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that 
>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a 
>> prostitute
>> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
>>
>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched 
>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual 
>> advances,
>> according to court documents.
>>
>> That case also was dismissed.
>>
>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims 
>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
>>
>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six 
>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
>>
>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a 
>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon 
>> amount
>> - usually $750 for two hours.
>>
>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case 
>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," 
>> according
>> to court records.
>>
>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days 
>> that did not use her services.
>>
>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him 
>> his credit-card bill.
>>
>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take 
>> any action, court documents said.
>>
>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that 
>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers 
>> to use
>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
>>
>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a 
>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at 
>> providing personal,
>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set 
>> rate," according to court documents.
>>
>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated 
>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
>>
>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about 
>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't 
>> bother
>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, 
>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the 
>> disciplinary
>> board."
>>
>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" 
>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
>>
>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going 
>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind 
>> men."
>>
>> He said that he had the chutzpah
>>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her 
>> pay."
>>
>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too 
>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
>>
>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, 
>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court 
>> documents.
>>
>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the 
>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, 
>> William Reil,
>> who did not return calls for comment.
>>
>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates 
>> lessons were "ridiculous."
>>
>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
>>
>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone 
>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
>>
>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' 
>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed 
>> charges because
>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted 
>> a breach of the card-member agreement.
>>
>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities 
>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public 
>> accommodation."
>>
>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: 
>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA 
>> because the
>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
>>
>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not 
>> to include credit-card companies.
>>
>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words 
>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the 
>> blind access
>> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards."
>>
>> Buzz up!
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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 17:47:05 2009
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:47:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
In-Reply-To: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC>
References: <SNT128-DS407B09F8A93F3818BFC6FBBD10@phx.gbl>
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He should be able to recover against that lady, I think.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
> wrote:

> Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>
>
>
> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile!
>> Ray Wayne
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>, "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
>> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>>
>>> By STEPHANIE FARR
>>> Philadelphia Daily News
>>>
>>> farrs at phillynews.com
>>>  215-854-4225
>>>
>>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is
>>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a
>>> Philadelphia
>>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
>>>
>>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he
>>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
>>>
>>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged
>>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not
>>> sufficiently
>>> protected its blind customers.
>>>
>>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said
>>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
>>>
>>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that
>>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a
>>> prostitute
>>> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
>>>
>>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched
>>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual
>>> advances,
>>> according to court documents.
>>>
>>> That case also was dismissed.
>>>
>>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims
>>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
>>>
>>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six
>>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
>>>
>>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a
>>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon
>>> amount
>>> - usually $750 for two hours.
>>>
>>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case
>>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked,"
>>> according
>>> to court records.
>>>
>>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days
>>> that did not use her services.
>>>
>>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him
>>> his credit-card bill.
>>>
>>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take
>>> any action, court documents said.
>>>
>>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that
>>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to
>>> use
>>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
>>>
>>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a
>>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at
>>> providing personal,
>>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set
>>> rate," according to court documents.
>>>
>>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated
>>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
>>>
>>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about
>>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't
>>> bother
>>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe,
>>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the
>>> disciplinary
>>> board."
>>>
>>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck"
>>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
>>>
>>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going
>>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind
>>> men."
>>>
>>> He said that he had the chutzpah
>>>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her
>>> pay."
>>>
>>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too
>>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
>>>
>>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer,
>>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court
>>> documents.
>>>
>>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the
>>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney,
>>> William Reil,
>>> who did not return calls for comment.
>>>
>>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates
>>> lessons were "ridiculous."
>>>
>>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
>>>
>>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone
>>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
>>>
>>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples'
>>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed
>>> charges because
>>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted
>>> a breach of the card-member agreement.
>>>
>>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities
>>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public
>>> accommodation."
>>>
>>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained:
>>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA
>>> because the
>>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
>>>
>>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not
>>> to include credit-card companies.
>>>
>>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words
>>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the
>>> blind access
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From james.weisberg at comcast.net  Sat Oct  3 17:57:37 2009
From: james.weisberg at comcast.net (James)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:57:37 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
In-Reply-To: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC>
Message-ID: <E841DA32B9BF4EFDB988705076851CC7@james9f5240517>

Even???

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:38 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G

Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ray wayne" <rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G


> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile!
> Ray Wayne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: <BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com>, "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36
> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>
>>
>>
>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G
>>
>> By STEPHANIE FARR
>> Philadelphia Daily News
>>
>> farrs at phillynews.com
>>  215-854-4225
>>
>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is

>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a 
>> Philadelphia
>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week.
>>
>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he 
>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600.
>>
>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged 
>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had 
>> not sufficiently
>> protected its blind customers.
>>
>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said 
>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal.
>>
>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that 
>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a 
>> prostitute
>> or that she had defrauded his credit card.
>>
>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched

>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual 
>> advances,
>> according to court documents.
>>
>> That case also was dismissed.
>>
>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims 
>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site.
>>
>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six 
>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour.
>>
>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a 
>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon

>> amount
>> - usually $750 for two hours.
>>
>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case 
>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," 
>> according
>> to court records.
>>
>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days

>> that did not use her services.
>>
>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him 
>> his credit-card bill.
>>
>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take 
>> any action, court documents said.
>>
>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that 
>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers

>> to use
>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants.
>>
>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a 
>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at 
>> providing personal,
>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set 
>> rate," according to court documents.
>>
>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated 
>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said.
>>
>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about

>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't 
>> bother
>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe,

>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the 
>> disciplinary
>> board."
>>
>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" 
>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women.
>>
>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going 
>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind 
>> men."
>>
>> He said that he had the chutzpah
>>  to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her 
>> pay."
>>
>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too 
>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said.
>>
>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, 
>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court 
>> documents.
>>
>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the 
>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, 
>> William Reil,
>> who did not return calls for comment.
>>
>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates 
>> lessons were "ridiculous."
>>
>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said.
>>
>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone 
>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do."
>>
>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' 
>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed 
>> charges because
>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted 
>> a breach of the card-member agreement.
>>
>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities 
>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public 
>> accommodation."
>>
>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: 
>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA 
>> because the
>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said.
>>
>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not 
>> to include credit-card companies.
>>
>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words 
>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the

>> blind access
>> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards."
>>
>> Buzz up!
>> Buzz this story.
>> CURRENTLY SHOWING ON PHILLY.COM
>>
>> images/090325_pc_dish_203_kan_1
>>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  3 21:10:29 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:10:29 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Hud charges Illinois university with violating Fair
	Housing Act
Message-ID: <7895CB8CB1FC4F7488EC71392FF32F41@spike>

HUD Charges? Illinois University with Violating the Fair Housing Act?
Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 @10:50am CDT


WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development today announced that it has charged? Millikin University in Decatur, Illinois with housing discrimination for allegedly refusing to allow a student with epilepsy and blindness to live in a dormitory with her trained service dog. 


The Fair Housing Act makes it unlawful to refuse to make reasonable 
accommodations in policies or practices when a person with a disability may require such an accommodation in order be afforded the equal housing opportunity others enjoy. 


"Having a service animal promotes independent living for many people with disabilities, " said John Trasvia, HUD's Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity. "HUD is committed to making sure colleges and universities promote supportive living environments for people living with disabilities. "


HUD brought the charge on behalf of the student who obtained a service dog from a non-profit organization that trained the dog to assist the student in the event of an epileptic seizure. HUD alleges that once the student obtained the service animal, Millikin University banned the student from even entering the dormitory building with the dog, requiring the student to vacate her room if she wanted to keep the animal and commute to school from her parents' home. Later, the university relocated the student to an inaccessible dormitory. 


The HUD charge will be heard by a United States Administrative Law Judge unless any party to the charge elects to have the case heard in federal district court. If an administrative law judge finds after a hearing that discrimination has occurred, he may award damages to the complainant for her damages as a result of the discrimination. The judge may also order injunctive relief and other equitable relief to deter further discrimination, as well as payment of attorney fees. In addition, the judge may impose civil penalties in order to vindicate the public interest. 


A federal district court judge may also award punitive damages to the complainant.


FHEO and its partners in the Fair Housing Assistance Program investigate approximately 10,500 housing discrimination complaints annually. People who believe they are the victims of housing discrimination should contact HUD at 1-800-669-9777(voice),
800-927-9275 (TTY). Additional information is available at 
www.hud.gov/fairhousing.
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext /?cid=109371_ 

From k7uij at panix.com  Sun Oct  4 23:30:04 2009
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:30:04 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB
	listserv
References: <E143EA5029F24DC6AFCE361711519FE6@james9f5240517>
Message-ID: <18371BAEE27A4066857C1E4455CCC296@owner96190708e>

I find the below highly ironic in that I have never seen the American 
Diabetes Association show much concern about the *real* issues facing 
blind diabetics (presumably, the group it would care most about) such as 
the lack of an accessible insulin pump, the lack of responsiveness of 
Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk in removing warnings from their insulin pen 
packaging and inserts that caution against use of insulin pens by the 
blind or visually impaired without the supervision of a sighted person 
or the relative paucity of accessible American Diabetes ASsociation 
literature other than on-line.

Mike Freeman, President
Diabetes Action Network
National Federation of the Blind

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James" <james.weisberg at comcast.net>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB 
listserv


I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society. 
There was a post last week and the info was incomplete.  See below.



  _____

From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM
To: james.weisberg at comcast.net
Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv



James,


Thanks for your help with this!  I drafted a post that is below my 
signature line.



Victoria Thomas
ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow
American Diabetes Association
1701 North Beauregard Street
Alexandria, VA 22311

Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124
Fax: (703) 549-8748
E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org
www.diabetes.org/discrimination



There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's 
upcoming attorney training and attorney network.  In addition to 
training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney 
training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination. 
Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, 
below.  The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes 
some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from 
around the country.



Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the 
American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes 
referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and 
prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability 
discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law 
information, resources, and questions are frequently posted.  You can 
check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at 
http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp



Still Time To Register

Fighting For Fairness 2009:

Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes

A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to 
attend â€œFighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students 
and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to 
take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24. 
The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific 
opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop 
expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and 
disability discrimination law.



FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building 
sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students 
or workers with diabetes.  Specifically FFF 2009 will include:

* Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act 
Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, 
proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs 
recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA 
Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed 
Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act  make this an important and 
timely program.
* Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes 
discrimination in employment and school
* Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems
* Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources 
to assist in diabetes-related litigation

To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to 
www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness.  Applicants will be accepted on a 
first-come, first-served basis.  Some scholarship funding is available 
to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's 
needs.



Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to 
end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes.  Contact 
Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any 
questions.


American Diabetes Association
Cure. Care. Commitment.


Visit us at http://diabetes.org
Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383)

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From craig.borne at dot.gov  Mon Oct  5 15:11:37 2009
From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:11:37 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia
	Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business)
Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E75E72E@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov>

________________________________

Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia
Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business)

 

Friends,
 
This looks like an exciting opportunity to pass on to our networks.
 

JOB VACANCY
POSITION: Aide to Sonia Sotomayor's Chambers (1-yr appointment with
possible 1-year extension)

DESCRIPTION: Responsibilities include intake, tracking, retrieval and
disposal of case-related documents; preparing cert lists detailing
various assignments; filing correspondence on argued cases;
photocopying; messenger services within and outside the building as
assigned; assisting with basic secretarial duties; assisting the Justice
as requested; and occasional driving duties.

QUALIFICATIONS: Highly motivated, detail-oriented individual.  High
school diploma, Microsoft Office skills, driver's license, good driving
record, and knowledge of DC and surrounding areas required.  College
degree and prior work experience in a busy environment strongly
preferred. Fluency in speaking, reading and writing Spanish strongly
preferred. Employment is subject to successful completion of a security
background check. SALARY: From SCP-6/1 ($37,084) to SCP-7 ($41,210 to
$53,574) (SCP-7 is the Full Performance Level)
DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business)
TO APPLY, please FAX to the Supreme Court of the United States at
202-479-3076 the following required forms: 

*	OF-306 - Declaration for Federal Employment*
*	OF-612 - Optional Application for Federal Employment*, along
with
*	Resume and Cover Letter


Phone Number:  202-479-3404

*Optional Forms 306 and 612 can be obtained from www.usajobs. opm.gov
<http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/> 

.



.

 
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=14858654/grpspId=1705044556/
msgId=5576/stime=1254408932/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> 

 

 








From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  6 13:38:09 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:38:09 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Labeling and keeping docs in order: anyone using the new
	Penfriend device.
In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS19EFCFE7BFDDF41BD27389BBCE0@phx.gbl>

I just heard of this new device -- I wanted to further investigate it before 
I go and make the purchase. It is called the Penfriend, available on the 
Independent Living Aides website. It is a labeling device, similar to a 
barcode device, but you record your voice to each lable. I think this can be 
used to organize documents/client files, exhibits, etc.Can anyone share some 
info on this please if you are currently using it in your practice?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

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From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:49 AM
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> Test Please ignore, I am just testing a distribution rule.
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Oct  6 20:26:31 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:26:31 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



________________________________
From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Importance: High



From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Importance: High

________________________________
From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
Importance: High
Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Requested Assistance
I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position.

Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.

Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.

Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
Diversity Programs Administrator
Office of Equal Opportunity
Washington State Department of Transportation
Office: (360) 705-7096
BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
Fax: (360) 705-6801


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From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 20:37:24 2009
From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdbenterprises at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:24 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] kdb invites you to check out Hollywood Beach Fl blog
Message-ID: <0016368323b0a3954504754a3252@google.com>

I'm following Hollywood Beach Fl blog and think you'll be interested in
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From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 20:37:26 2009
From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdbenterprises at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:26 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] kdb invites you to check out Hollywood Beach Fl blog
Message-ID: <001485eba8a0c47f4404754a32ea@google.com>

I'm following Hollywood Beach Fl blog and think you'll be interested in
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From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  7 17:21:40 2009
From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdb)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] [B P T] Fw:Where is the class action suit on this one??
	Pass the BUTTER PLEASE..
In-Reply-To: <A98B8ABD165C4EF0999B73D6427DA579@cjoy>
References: <A98B8ABD165C4EF0999B73D6427DA579@cjoy>
Message-ID: <17110.95084.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


 Sounds like a simple solution- my idea is to have our Gov. get it off our market shelves please and assemble the class action suit.
Pass The Butter .. Please. 
>This is interesting . . . 
>Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed 
>the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted 
>a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with 
>this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food 
>appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in 
>place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever 
>new flavorings.. 
>
>DO YOU KNOW.. the difference between margarine and butter? 
>Read on to the end...gets very interesting! 
>
>Both have the same amount of calories.. 
>Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 
>grams. 
>Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over 
>eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study. 
>Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other 
>foods. 
>Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few 
>only because they are added! 
>Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of 
>other foods. 
>Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for 
>less than 100 years . 
>
>And now, for Margarine.. 
>
>Very high in Trans fatty acids. 
>Triple risk of coronary heart disease . 
>Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and 
>lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) 
>Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold..
>Lowers quality of breast milk. 
>Decreases immune response. 
>Decreases insulin response.
>
>And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY 
>INTERESTING! 
>
>Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC.. 
>
>This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and 
>anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the 
>molecular structure of the substance). 
>
>You can try this yourself: 
>
>Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.. 
>Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:
>* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that 
>should tell you something) 
>* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional 
>value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will 
>not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you 
>melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? 
>
>Pass the BUTTER PLEASE.. 
>
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Thu Oct  8 02:06:55 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:06:55 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob
 Bolotin Awards
Message-ID: <auto-000120710645@mailfront1.g2host.com>



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org



National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards





National Federation of the Blind to Award $50,000 in 2010



<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = 
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Baltimore, Maryland 
(October 7, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind today 
announced that applications are now being accepted for the 2010 Dr. 
Jacob Bolotin Award Program.  Each year the National Federation of 
the Blind presents cash awards to individuals and organizations that 
have made outstanding contributions toward achieving the full 
integration of the blind into society on a basis of equality.



Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a blind physician who lived and practiced in 
Chicago in the early twentieth century.  He was widely known and 
respected in Chicago and throughout the Midwest during his career, 
which spanned the period from 1912 until his untimely death at the 
age of thirty-six in 1924.  He was particularly recognized for his 
expertise on diseases of the heart and lungs.  Bolotin used his many 
public speaking engagements to advocate for the employment of the 
blind and their full integration into society.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a pioneer who overcame low expectations 
and discrimination to become a renowned member of the medical 
profession without the benefit of the support services and civil 
rights protections available to blind people today.  He was also a 
fierce advocate for greater opportunity for the blind in his time, 
and doubtless would have been a leader in the organized blind 
movement had he lived to see it come into being.  The Jacob Bolotin 
Award Program celebrates his pioneering spirit by recognizing and 
supporting outstanding programs, technologies, and individual efforts 
that promote independence and opportunity for blind Americans."



Recipients of the 2010 Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards will be determined by 
the Dr. Jacob Bolotin Award Committee of the National Federation of 
the Blind.  Online applications are due by April 15, 
2010.  Individuals or organizations are encouraged to apply on behalf 
of themselves or others.  The award recipients will be announced at 
the 2010 National Federation of the Blind Convention in Dallas.  A 
total of $50,000 will be distributed to the award recipients.



The Jacob Bolotin Award Program is funded through the generosity of 
Dr. Bolotin's nephew and niece, Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman.   In 
addition to establishing the Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman Trust to 
endow the awards, the late Mrs. Pearlman also wrote The Blind Doctor: 
The Jacob Bolotin Story.   The book has been published by Blue Point 
Books and can be ordered directly from the publisher at 
www.bluepointbooks.com. Proceeds from book sales will also benefit 
the award program.  For more information or to fill out the online 
application, please visit <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org.





###





About the National Federation of the Blind


With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind 
is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind 
people in the United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives 
through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs 
encouraging independence and self-confidence.  It is the leading 
force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's 
blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in 
the United States for the blind led by the blind.  Please visit our 
Web site: <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org.


From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  8 14:11:06 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar
	exam!
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>

Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process 
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a 
> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I 
> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and 
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the 
> ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From bspiry at comcast.net  Thu Oct  8 15:08:49 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:08:49 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>

Congrats dude!


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
barexam!

Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process 
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a

> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I 
> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and 
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the

> ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From mhanson at winternet.com  Thu Oct  8 15:22:25 2009
From: mhanson at winternet.com (Michael O. Hanson)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:22:25 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5D825D82915A47C8B307587620CD5796@hp048378e4c43a>

Good for you.  You've earned that beer!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania 
barexam!


> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, 
>> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's 
>> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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From k7uij at panix.com  Thu Oct  8 15:26:21 2009
From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:21 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CE0856BA0F4A445DA5A28A3F8F39766C@owner96190708e>

Bravo, Rod! Way to go!

Mike Freeman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania 
barexam!


Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released 
their
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
process
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) 
> Manager
> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired 
> after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within 
> ECRB.
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment 
> in
> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that 
> has a
> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, 
> I
> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's 
> and
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of 
> interested
> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm 
> my
> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with 
> extensive
> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
> the
> ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From dfrye at nfb.org  Thu Oct  8 15:45:39 2009
From: dfrye at nfb.org (Dan Frye)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:45:39 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
Message-ID: <E1MvvBO-00027Y-7w@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Rod:

Congratulations!

With Kind Regards,

Daniel B.  Frye
Office: (410) 659-9314, Ext 2208
Mobile: (410) 241-7006
Note: This message has been issued remotely from the Braille 
Note.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400
>Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvania barexam!

>Yes, I did it! I passed.  I am now waiting for New Jerseyto 
released their
>results.

>I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in 
this process
>since the beginning.  This is a remarkable guy.  Thanks, Ray.

>I need a beer now!

>Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>C.  718-704-4651
>roddj12 at hotmail.com
>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
Hamilton
>Houston

>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov
>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; 
<nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT



>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High



>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High

>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the 
WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) 
Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina 
retired after
>> 36+ years with state government.  I have attached scanned copies 
of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management 
Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.

>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from 
within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the 
agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external 
recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for 
the
>> position.  Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate 
that has a
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the 
position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the 
KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent 
candidates.

>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of 
interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions 
please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to 
confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with 
extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify 
candidates for the
>> ECRB Manager position.

>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801






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From brandon.mcginty at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 16:04:41 2009
From: brandon.mcginty at gmail.com (brandon mcginty)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:04:41 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
In-Reply-To: <BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
Message-ID: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent. Congratulations.

Sincerely,
Brandon McGinty


On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry <bspiry at comcast.net> wrote:
> Congrats dude!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
> barexam!
>
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a
>
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the
>
>> ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  8 16:59:39 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:59:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
	Pennsylvaniabarexam!
In-Reply-To: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl><BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
	<3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS10A736CFAB6B827F36E63CBBCC0@phx.gbl>

Thanks guys for all of the nice words.


Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "brandon mcginty" <brandon.mcginty at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvaniabarexam!

> Excellent. Congratulations.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brandon McGinty
>
>
> On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry <bspiry at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Congrats dude!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
>> barexam!
>>
>> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
>> results.
>>
>> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
>> process
>> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>>
>> I need a beer now!
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>> Importance: High
>>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>>
>>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>>> a
>>
>>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>>
>>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>>> the
>>
>>> ECRB Manager position.
>>>
>>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>>>
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>> com
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From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  8 16:58:33 2009
From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	bar exam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am glad to here that.  I knew you would achieve this.


--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam!
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now
> waiting for New Jerseyto released their results.
> 
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me
> in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable
> guy. Thanks, Ray.
> 
> I need a beer now!
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." -
> Charles Hamilton Houston
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>;
> <jobs at nfbnet.org>;
> <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at
> DOT
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> > To: Nightingale, Noel
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Requested Assistance
> > I am asking for your help to identify viable
> candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity
> External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that
> has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned
> copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current
> WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB
> Manager position.
> > 
> > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates
> from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB
> Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given
> permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of
> attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a
> candidate that has a work background that matches all the
> essential areas for the position, I am confident that there
> are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
> transferable work experiences who would make excellent
> candidates.
> > 
> > Anything you can do to get our information into the
> hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated!
> If you have questions please contact  me or
> Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm
> my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks
> with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help
> us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.
> > 
> > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> > Diversity Programs Administrator
> > Office of Equal Opportunity
> > Washington State Department of Transportation
> > Office: (360) 705-7096
> > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> > Fax: (360) 705-6801
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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> > blindlaw mailing list
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Thu Oct  8 17:58:29 2009
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
	Pennsylvaniabarexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
Message-ID: <ABA45249468A4CCF8735017FECF90757@valtd>

>From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you Rod 
for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam!  May you find the practice 
of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you get 
settled in the profession!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  8 20:12:50 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:12:50 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed
	thePennsylvaniabarexam!
In-Reply-To: <ABA45249468A4CCF8735017FECF90757@valtd>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl><BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
	<ABA45249468A4CCF8735017FECF90757@valtd>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS1905FCC4B2A67AA2EDF4C4BBCC0@phx.gbl>

Olusegun:

Thanks thanks thanks.


Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:58 PM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed 
thePennsylvaniabarexam!

>>From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you 
>>Rod
> for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam!  May you find the 
> practice of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you 
> get settled in the profession!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 20:59:00 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:59:00 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabar
	exam!
In-Reply-To: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <12C53ED0D7EC419096AD52575DA916F6@Rufus>

Damn, one more liar, ahem, lawyer to add to the mix?  Haha, kidding man.
Congratulations.  You do everyone proud.

Joe Orozco

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William ODonnell
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:59 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvaniabar exam!

I am glad to here that.  I knew you would achieve this.


--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rod Alcidonis <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvania bar exam!
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM Yes, I did it! I passed. I 
> am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results.
> 
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
> 
> I need a beer now!
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
> Hamilton Houston
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>;
> <jobs at nfbnet.org>;
> <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> > To: Nightingale, Noel
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Requested Assistance
> > I am asking for your help to identify viable
> candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil 
> Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July 
> 1 when Jim Medina retired after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned
> copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 
> Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position.
> > 
> > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates
> from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager 
> position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct 
> an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the 
> skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we 
> will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the 
> essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are 
> seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work 
> experiences who would make excellent candidates.
> > 
> > Anything you can do to get our information into the
> hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated!
> If you have questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied 
> Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use 
my network 
> to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be 
> able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.
> > 
> > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> > Diversity Programs Administrator
> > Office of Equal Opportunity
> > Washington State Department of Transportation
> > Office: (360) 705-7096
> > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> > Fax: (360) 705-6801
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 21:51:54 2009
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:51:54 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
	Pennsylvaniabarexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
Message-ID: <00a301ca4861$8de08690$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>

Great!
Congratulations.

Best Craig
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Spiry" <bspiry at comcast.net>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
Pennsylvaniabarexam!


> Congrats dude!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
> barexam!
>
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a
>
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the
>
>> ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Thu Oct  8 22:58:04 2009
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:58:04 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	bar exam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20091008225804.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Congratulations, Rod. I didn't really do anything; you did all the hard work. 
Ray


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, Oct 8, 2009 10:58:34
Subject: [bllaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam!

>
>
> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
> results.
> 
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process 
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
> 
> I need a beer now!
> 
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." �� Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [bllaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> 
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> > To: Nightingale, Noel
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ESAID GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> > Importance: High
> > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> > Subject: Requested Assistance
> > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
> > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
> > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
> > ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> > Description for the ECRB Manager position.
> >
> > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
> > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a 
> > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I 
> > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and 
> > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
> >
> > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
> > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
> > contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
> > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
> > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the 
> > ECRB Manager position.
> >
> > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> > Diversity Programs Administrator
> > Office of Equal Opportunity
> > Washington State Department of Transportation
> > Office: (360) 705-7096
> > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> > Fax: (360) 705-6801
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > bllaw mailing list
> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From langlois2 at verizon.net  Fri Oct  9 02:10:39 2009
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:10:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	bar	exam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <84B89E58707E4D5C92FB89B9EB47BC2E@barney03>

Congratulations, Rod!
Best wishes in your future endeavours!
brian Langlois


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar 
exam!


> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process
> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a
>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the
>> ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From cdanielsen8 at aol.com  Fri Oct  9 09:56:49 2009
From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:56:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2C1B8E200C0541B0A497CA578F693C4E@Scorpio13>

Congratulations Rod!

Chris
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
barexam!

Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
results.

I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process
since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.

I need a beer now!

Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
> Importance: High
> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Requested Assistance
> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) 
> Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina 
> retired after
> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment 
> in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that 
> has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the 
> position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of 
> the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent
candidates.
>
> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of 
> interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have 
> questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this 
> email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out 
> to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us 
> identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position.
>
> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
> Diversity Programs Administrator
> Office of Equal Opportunity
> Washington State Department of Transportation
> Office: (360) 705-7096
> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>
>
>



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From womankind at earthlink.net  Fri Oct  9 13:35:49 2009
From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:35:49 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the
 Pennsylvaniabarexam!
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS10A736CFAB6B827F36E63CBBCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
	<BD81155F99A945808A04F20B9E87A944@Freddy>
	<3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT128-DS10A736CFAB6B827F36E63CBBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1MwFdF-0002Vz-CX@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Fantastic!At 12:59 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote:
>Thanks guys for all of the nice words.
>
>
>Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>C. 718-704-4651
>roddj12 at hotmail.com
>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
>Hamilton Houston
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "brandon mcginty" <brandon.mcginty at gmail.com>
>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the 
>Pennsylvaniabarexam!
>
>>Excellent. Congratulations.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Brandon McGinty
>>
>>
>>On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry <bspiry at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Congrats dude!
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM
>>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
>>>barexam!
>>>
>>>Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their
>>>results.
>>>
>>>I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process
>>>since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>>>
>>>I need a beer now!
>>>
>>>Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
>>>C. 718-704-4651
>>>roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>>Houston
>>>
>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
>>>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>>>>To: Nightingale, Noel
>>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>>Importance: High
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>>>>To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>>Importance: High
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>>>>Importance: High
>>>>Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>>>>Subject: Requested Assistance
>>>>I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT
>>>>Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager
>>>>position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after
>>>>36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the
>>>>ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position
>>>>Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>>>
>>>>Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB.
>>>>Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency
>>>>Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in
>>>>hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the
>>>>position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a
>>>
>>>>work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I
>>>>am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and
>>>>transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>>>
>>>>Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested
>>>>candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please
>>>>contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my
>>>>commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive
>>>>networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the
>>>
>>>>ECRB Manager position.
>>>>
>>>>Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>>>>Diversity Programs Administrator
>>>>Office of Equal Opportunity
>>>>Washington State Department of Transportation
>>>>Office: (360) 705-7096
>>>>BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>>>>Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 10 03:26:22 2009
From: rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net ( Rob Tabor)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:26:22 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania
	barexam!
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4D93F83391@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS3F0B82A90938676128213BBCC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4776CC820D8A4C00B2F8C7FFA6CCAAF5@Rob>

Two thumbs up for you, Rod! If you pass both PA and NJ bar exams you not 
have only earned a beer; you've earned a whole case, so drink up!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania 
barexam!


> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their 
> results.
>
> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this 
> process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray.
>
> I need a beer now!
>
> Rod Alcidonis, J.D.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; <jobs at nfbnet.org>; <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM
>> To: Nightingale, Noel
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM
>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM
>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT
>> Importance: High
>> Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita<mailto:MendozM at wsdot.wa.gov>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Requested Assistance
>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT 
>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager 
>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 
>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the 
>> ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position 
>> Description for the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. 
>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency 
>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in 
>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the 
>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has 
>> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, 
>> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's 
>> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates.
>>
>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested 
>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please 
>> contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my 
>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive 
>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for 
>> the ECRB Manager position.
>>
>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama
>> Diversity Programs Administrator
>> Office of Equal Opportunity
>> Washington State Department of Transportation
>> Office: (360) 705-7096
>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225
>> Fax: (360) 705-6801
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From mike.sandi at comcast.net  Sun Oct 11 15:34:50 2009
From: mike.sandi at comcast.net (Mike Groat)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:34:50 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>

I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device.  It
is quite impressive.  The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
Then a voice note is made for that label number.  The labels can be reused
for recording purposes.  

For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well.   





From cdborne at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 16:49:43 2009
From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
Message-ID: <D6CC6B0AE197486BA0E4F92176B46147@CraigPC>

This sounds great.  Does anyone have a link to the product for sale?
Craig 

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Mike Groat
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device

I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device.  It
is quite impressive.  The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
Then a voice note is made for that label number.  The labels can be reused
for recording purposes.  

For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well.   




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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 11 18:06:20 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <D6CC6B0AE197486BA0E4F92176B46147@CraigPC>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>


Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link:

 

http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610
 
> From: cdborne at gmail.com
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale?
> Craig 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Groat
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It
> is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
> Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused
> for recording purposes. 
> 
> For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From cdborne at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 18:32:12 2009
From: cdborne at gmail.com (cdborne at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
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Thank you 

craig


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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Shaw <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link:

 

http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610
 
> From: cdborne at gmail.com
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale?
> Craig 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Groat
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It
> is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes.
> Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused
> for recording purposes. 
> 
> For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 22:21:31 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI
Message-ID: <BD52097A51BF47989600E3B3B8072CE3@Rufus>

>From Olivia Claverie

> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Date: September 24, 2009

> FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
> DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232

> PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS

> The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to 
> regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ( 
> ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory 
> changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced 
> by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on
providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination
under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. "
Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009.

> The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed 
> into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for 
> enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination
against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make
reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities.
 
> "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." 
> "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are
fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best
that they can be."

> The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1,  2009, and the 
> regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for 
> public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment 
> discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets 
> the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also 
> modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment
discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability.

> The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the 
> definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial 
> limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad
coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the
ADA, and should not require extensive analysis.

> The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major 
> bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as
medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects
of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person
has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in
remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric
impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life
activities when active.

> Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way 
> of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity 
> of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for 
> determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability.

> The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is 
> posted on the EEOC website, 
> http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html
> <http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html>
> along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions
for submitting public comments to the Commission.

You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: 
> Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive 
> Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity 
> Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC
20507.

> Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the 
> Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile
> (``FAX'') machine.  The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) 
> 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or 
> fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to 
> the equipment. Receipt of FAX  transmittals will not be acknowledged, 
> except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling 
> the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202) 
> 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.)
 
> Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and 
> attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov 
> <http://www.regulations.gov>, which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal.
> Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of 
> comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the 
> Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC 
> 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed 
> at
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Wed Oct 14 21:27:10 2009
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:27:10 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI
References: <BD52097A51BF47989600E3B3B8072CE3@Rufus>
Message-ID: <33E19519A81441C0961EDFA34D9038B5@none8a46117901>

Regarding the EEOC proposed regulations - I went to the web inks and read 
through the notice of proposed rulemaking and read through the questions and 
answers section.
Has anyone  actually been able to get to the proposed regulations themselves 
through that web site for the EEOC?

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To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI


> >From Olivia Claverie
>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> Date: September 24, 2009
>
>> FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
>> DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232
>
>> PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS
>
>> The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to
>> regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (
>> ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory
>> changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced
>> by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on
> providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination
> under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. 
> "
> Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009.
>
>> The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed
>> into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for
>> enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination
> against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make
> reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with 
> disabilities.
>
>> "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC."
>> "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations 
>> are
> fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the 
> best
> that they can be."
>
>> The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1,  2009, and the
>> regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for
>> public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment
>> discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets
>> the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also
>> modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment
> discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability.
>
>> The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the
>> definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial
>> limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad
> coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of 
> the
> ADA, and should not require extensive analysis.
>
>> The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major
>> bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as
> medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects
> of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person
> has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or 
> in
> remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric
> impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major 
> life
> activities when active.
>
>> Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way
>> of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity
>> of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for
>> determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability.
>
>> The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is
>> posted on the EEOC website,
>> http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html
>> <http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html>
>> along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and 
>> instructions
> for submitting public comments to the Commission.
>
> You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How:
>> Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive
>> Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity
>> Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC
> 20507.
>
>> Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the
>> Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile
>> (``FAX'') machine.  The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202)
>> 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or
>> fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to
>> the equipment. Receipt of FAX  transmittals will not be acknowledged,
>> except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling
>> the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202)
>> 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.)
>
>> Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and
>> attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov
>> <http://www.regulations.gov>, which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal.
>> Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of
>> comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the
>> Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC
>> 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed
>> at
> http://www.regulations.gov
> <http://www.regulations.gov>
>
>
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 01:55:02 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:02 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
Message-ID: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 16 02:07:58 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:07:58 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net>

Hey, congrats.  Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 02:22:03 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:22:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <008201ca4e07$73f87200$5be95600$@com>

Congratulations to everyone who is passing the bar!  You are awesome!!!

William

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From CDanielsen at nfb.org  Fri Oct 16 02:43:39 2009
From: CDanielsen at nfb.org (Danielsen, Chris)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:43:39 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Presidential Proclamation for White Cane Safety Day
Message-ID: <auto-000123424142@mailfront2.g2host.com>


Dear Fellow Federationists:


Below is the text of this years White Cane 
Safety Day proclamation issued by President 
Obama.  As you will read, the proclamation 
highlights the importance of Braille 
literacy.  It is clear that our advocacy on this 
issue is having an impact on policy makers at the 
highest levels of our government.  We continue to 
accomplish great things for blind Americans.  Happy White Cane Safety Day!



Sincerely:



Chris Danielsen etc.




White Cane Safety Day, 2009



By the President of the United States of America



A Proclamation





All Americans deserve the freedom to participate 
in every aspect of our society and pursue their 
full measure of happiness.  For blind Americans, 
the white cane is a potent symbol of that 
freedom­affording them greater independence and 
mobility.  Today, we renew our commitment to 
provide full inclusion and equal opportunities 
for those among us who are blind or have low 
vision.  As Americans, we must nurture a society 
that values the unique abilities and individual 
contributions of all its people.



Individuals who are blind or have low vision are 
less constrained and better integrated in our 
country than ever before, but much work remains 
to ensure they have the opportunity to reach 
their full potential.  My Administration is 
committed to securing full and equal access to 
education and employment for blind Americans and 
all those with disabilities.  The American 
Recovery and Reinvestment Act substantially 
increased funding for the Individuals with 
Disabilities Education Act, as well as vocational 
rehabilitation services, including job training, education, and placement.



For Americans who are blind or have low vision, a 
white cane is just one of a wide range of tools 
that sustain independence and productivity.  In 
recent years, refreshable Braille displays and 
speech synthesis devices have given these 
individuals access to the Internet, unlocking a 
new frontier of limitless possibility.  As we 
encourage the development of new assistive 
technologies, we must also improve access to 
existing tools.  The Braille code has opened a 
doorway to literacy for countless individuals, 
but far too many blind children in our country 
are not learning to read it.  By improving 
Braille literacy, we will secure a brighter future for these young Americans.



In the 45 years since White Cane Safety Day was 
first proclaimed by President Lyndon Johnson, 
Americans who are blind or have low vision have 
achieved substantial progress.  As leaders in 
government and business, academics, and the arts, 
they have made remarkable contributions to our 
Nation, proving that sight is no requisite for 
success.  We will continue to strive for a more 
just and equitable Nation that celebrates 
diversity in all its forms and promotes the full 
inclusion of all individuals in our communities.



By joint resolution approved on October 6, 1964, 
(Public Law 88-628, as amended), the Congress 
designated October 15 of each year as White Cane 
Safety Day to recognize the contributions of 
Americans who are blind or have low vision.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the 
United States of America, by virtue of the 
authority vested in me by the Constitution and 
laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim 
October 15, 2009, as White Cane Safety Day.  I 
call upon all Americans to observe this day with 
appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs.



IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand 
this fifteenth day of October, in the year of our 
Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence 
of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fourth.


From langlois2 at verizon.net  Fri Oct 16 02:47:39 2009
From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:47:39 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <9A5F71976DE04BD4A7EDF56FFBBF17D2@barney03>

Congrats to you! I hope you ace the next exam as well!
Brian Langlois


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 04:18:42 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:18:42 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
	<90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4ad7f42a.86c3f10a.1965.0556@mx.google.com>

Yeah, I think that was me. :) I'm @arm4r on twitter.



-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:08 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hey, congrats.  Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!


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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 04:36:20 2009
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:36:20 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <017201ca4e1a$360342a0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>

Angie
Congratulations!!  That is great news.
I wish you all the best.


Craig




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
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From bspiry at comcast.net  Fri Oct 16 06:05:23 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:05:23 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <6F8EEA1977D543A8B6853DF4DCDE6FD6@Freddy>

Congratulations Angie!

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From joramsey at cox.net  Fri Oct 16 09:04:24 2009
From: joramsey at cox.net (John Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:04:24 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a>

Hi Angie,
Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA.
Take care,
John

John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq.

Gainesville, FL 32609

(352) 505-6642

 

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control.  Thank you.  

 

 



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Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 11:09:03 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:09:03 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
	<0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a>
Message-ID: <4ad8544e.1ac1f10a.79a2.61a6@mx.google.com>

Hi John,

Yes, those were the days. (grin)

Best,

Angie



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Behalf Of John Ramsey
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hi Angie,
Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA.
Take care,
John

John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq.

Gainesville, FL 32609

(352) 505-6642

 

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Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Fri Oct 16 12:21:02 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:21:02 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
Message-ID: <cbd.4c8560fa.3809bf2e@aol.com>

Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome  
to the Legal Profession!
 
Ronza
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
angie.matney at gmail.com writes:

Hi  John,

Yes, those were the days.  (grin)

Best,

Angie



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Behalf Of John Ramsey
Sent:  Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hi  Angie,
Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with  VOPA.
Take care,
John

John A. Ramsey Jr.,  Esq.

Gainesville, FL 32609

(352) 505-6642



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-----Original Message-----
From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf  Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet  Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA  Bar!


Hello Everyone,



I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!)  to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the  MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be  licensed on December  15.



Angie





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From shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 16 14:36:47 2009
From: shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com (Kate Thegreat)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:36:47 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income
Message-ID: <SNT108-W3D301E5C9FD966B4C251AA3C40@phx.gbl>


I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks. 		 	   		  
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From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 16 14:38:12 2009
From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <665642.34115.qm@web112414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Congratulations, Angie!
 
I'm happy for you.
 
The MPRE is a piece of cake. You'll ace it.
 
Mike

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, Angie Matney <angie.matney at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Angie Matney <angie.matney at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 9:55 PM


Hello Everyone,



I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.



Angie





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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Fri Oct 16 16:00:27 2009
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:00:27 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <cbd.4c8560fa.3809bf2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6FE851C9337C4DEC8B99383137BA6EE0@labarre>

Here, here!
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----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome
> to the Legal Profession!
>
> Ronza
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> angie.matney at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi  John,
>
> Yes, those were the days.  (grin)
>
> Best,
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
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> Behalf Of John Ramsey
> Sent:  Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
>
> Hi  Angie,
> Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with  VOPA.
> Take care,
> John
>
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> Gainesville, FL 32609
>
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> Behalf  Of Angie Matney
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
> To: 'NFBnet  Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA  Bar!
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!)  to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the  MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be  licensed on December  15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Fri Oct 16 19:47:05 2009
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:47:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and other
	resources
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

  

I have been trying, without success, to find some information about the
availability of Arizona statute books and similar reference materials in
an audio format.  I use a Smartview desktop reader and WinZoom computer
software in the office, and have portable reader to use in court, but
having a backup audio source, preferably Mp3 (although I also have a
4-track machine) would be so much help.  The only response I get from
West Publishing is to offer a Braille text, which I am not yet literate
enough to use, and large print texts, which are far to bulky to be
hauling back and forth to hearings.  (I should have followed up on the
instinct to learn Braille in grade school, but glasses were enough back
then.)  Does anyone know if audio formats for such things are available,
and where I should check to obtain them?

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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 16 20:30:38 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:30:38 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income
In-Reply-To: <SNT108-W3D301E5C9FD966B4C251AA3C40@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT108-W3D301E5C9FD966B4C251AA3C40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E44078539D44C64AC1DDAC7828394E9@spike>

There are different standards that apply based on whether you are receiving 
SSI or Social Security disability benefits. If you are receiving Social 
Security disability benefits you most likely will not be making enough money 
to where it won't become an issue. There are potentially ways to get around 
this if you are receiving SSI however. If needed you can contact me off list 
to discuss further.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kate Thegreat" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income


>
> I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of 
> business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much 
> because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from 
> a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA 
> that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank 
> account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect 
> a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She 
> is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be 
> any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually 
> going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's 
> word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks.
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From darlene.olsen at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 23:34:14 2009
From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:34:14 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CA2C4D27FF39412B96B5CA123E853D5D@DarleneOlsen>

 CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you 
passed that exam.
Darlene Olsen
Napa, California

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>
>
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sat Oct 17 01:12:29 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:12:29 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <CA2C4D27FF39412B96B5CA123E853D5D@DarleneOlsen>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
	<CA2C4D27FF39412B96B5CA123E853D5D@DarleneOlsen>
Message-ID: <5DC7FA1BC0B1405B9EDF119578654F69@StevePC>

congradulations!!!  I  didn't pass the Bar because I didn't take the bar!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darlene Olsen" <darlene.olsen at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!


> CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you
> passed that exam.
> Darlene Olsen
> Napa, California
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
>
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
>> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
>> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
>>
>>
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From cdanielsen8 at aol.com  Sat Oct 17 10:28:44 2009
From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:28:44 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <947C056DFB4241C5827B25EE064E23E5@Scorpio13>

Congratulations! I hope your legal career is a fulfilling one.

Chris
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Angie Matney
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.

 

Angie

 

 

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From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com  Sun Oct 18 02:36:28 2009
From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:36:28 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20091018023628.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com>

Congratulations, Angie. 
Ray Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'Ationfbnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, Oct 16, 2009 0:29:36
Subject: [bllaw] I passed the VA Bar!

>
>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar
> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on
> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15.
> 
>  
> 
> Angie
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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From blindchildren at verizon.net  Sun Oct 18 23:36:33 2009
From: blindchildren at verizon.net (Carol Castellano)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:36:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights
 Training, Washington, DC - December 2-4,
 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly encouraged to register only for
 day 1 - ADA Day.
Message-ID: <auto-000123684241@mailfront2.g2host.com>

Dave,
I received this notice from a disability 
organization in VA.  Would you please forward to 
any lists that you think might be interested.
Thanks,
Carol

Carol Castellano, President
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.nfb.org/nopbc

Subject: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights Training,
>  Washington, DC - December 2-4, 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly
>  encouraged to register only for day 1 -  ADA Day.
>Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:25:26 -0400
>From: "Konoka Izumi" <KonokaI at ecnv.org>
>To: "Konoka Izumi" <KonokaI at ecnv.org>
>
>[]
>  Federal Transit Administration
>Office of Civil Rights
>
>
>Civil Rights Training
>December 2 - 4, 2009
>Washington, DC
>
>[]
>
>[]
>
>
>The Federal Transit Administrations Office of 
>Civil Rights invites its grant recipients and 
>other interested stakeholders in all FTA Regions 
>to attend a three-day training on FTAs civil 
>rights requirements and guidance.  The training 
>will review federal laws, regulations, executive 
>orders, and guidance covering the Americans with 
>Disabilities Act, Title VI of the Civil Rights 
>Act of 1964, and the U.S. Department of 
>Transportations Disadvantaged Business 
>Enterprise (DBE) Program.  This training will 
>also discuss recently implemented and proposed 
>updates to existing FTA civil rights directives and guidelines.
>
>This training will help practitioners better 
>understand the importance of civil rights 
>considerations in transportation and transit 
>planning, project development, investment, and 
>operations.  Participants will be able to apply 
>the content learned during this course to their 
>daily work activities and local environment.
>
>Participants will also have the opportunity to 
>provide the FTA with feedback on challenges and 
>opportunities that they have experienced in 
>implementing Federal civil rights directives and 
>to share examples of effective or promising 
>practices that could be adopted by state, 
>regional, and local agencies or community-based organizations.
>
>Scholarships for travel expenses are available!
>
>This training will be held at the Westin 
>Arlington Gateway located at 801 North Glebe 
>Road, Arlington, VA 22203. Hotel rooms are 
>available on a first-come first-serve basis. To 
>reserve a room at the group discount rate of 
>$207/night, call 1-888-627-7076 or 703-717-6200 
>and mention the FTA Workshop.  The room 
>registration cut-off date is November 13, 2009.
>Reservation Deadline: Workshop reservations must 
>be made by November 13, 2009 while all 
>scholarship requests must be made by November 6, 2009.
>
>FTA Civil Rights Training
>Preliminary Agenda
>
>
>Wednesday ­ December 2, 2009
>
>Morning       Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA)
>                    Overview and Updates
>Afternoon    ADA Fixed Route Self Assessment
>                    Complementary Paratransit Self-Assessment
>                    ADA Trivia!
>
>Thursday ­ December 3, 2009
>
>Morning       Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 Overview
>                    Overview of New Title VI Circular
>                    Title VI Video Divided Highways
>Afternoon    Environmental Justice
>                    Exercise: City of Metropolis
>                    DOJ Video Language Barriers
>                    Limited English Proficiency (LEP)
>
>Friday ­ December 4, 2009
>
>Morning       Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program (DBE) Overview
>                    DBE Goal Methodology
>Afternoon    DBE Fraud
>                    DBE Certification
>
>Layo Osiyemi
>Endependence Center of Northern Virginia, Inc. (ECNV)
>2300 Clarendon Blvd. Suite 305
>Arlington, VA 22201
>(703) 525-3268 Ext 8005 (V)
>(703) 525-3553 (TTY)
>(703) 525-3585 (Fax)
><http://www.ecnv.org>www.ecnv.org
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 19 07:14:46 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:14:46 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and
	otherresources
In-Reply-To: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>
References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>
Message-ID: <D950F2F477BF4DE287CBAE804AAB60BD@spike>

Probably the best solution would be to use Westlaw on line to get this 
materials.
Chuck
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To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and 
otherresources


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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 19 19:56:52 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:56:52 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] ADA town hall in Oakland Ca
Message-ID: <1D5F097F53FA48328CCCAE5635AB52B8@spike>

Subject: Mon, Oct 26: ADA AA Town Hall in Oakland, CA


The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) Civil Rights Division
announce a full-day


Town Hall Listening Session
Monday, October 26, 2009
9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
California Endowment
1111 Broadway, 7th floor
Oakland, CA 94607


This is the first of a series of forums for public input being held
throughout the country in coming weeks to obtain direct input from the
business/employer communities as well as the disability and disability
advocacy community on EEOC's proposed regulations under the ADA
Amendments Act of 2008 (ADAAA).


Presided over by EEOC's Acting Chair, Stuart J. Ishimaru, Acting Vice
Chair, Christine Griffin, and Commissioner Constance S. Barker, as well
as DOJ's Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Samuel
Bagenstos, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights,
Mazen Baswari, and Chief of the Disability Rights Section of the Civil
Rights Division, John Wodatch, the Town Hall Listening Session is an
opportunity for these officials to hear directly from stakeholders of
all perspectives on the proposed regulations.


Five-minute time slots to address the panel will be available from 9:00
a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Some of the slots will be available on an advance
registration basis and some on first-come, first-served sign up basis at
the event. Members of the public are also invited to attend and view
the proceedings, with space available on a first-come, first-served
basis.


As a reasonable accommodation, there will be limited availability to
provide public input by telephone. To request this accommodation you
must register in advance.


Individuals representing themselves or organizations are urged to take
advantage of this opportunity to provide input on the EEOC's Notice of
Proposed Rulemaking which can be viewed, along with a
question-and- answer guide, at 
www.eeoc.gov


For more information, or to register as a speaker, please contact


Linda Li at 415-625-5618
(TTY 415-625-5610)
Linda.Li at ...


Sign Language Interpreters, CART, and assistive listening devices will
please email Elisa.gonzalez. ctr at ... Please let her know what
you need and the location (city) of the event you will be attending.


Both EEOC and DOJ want to encourage all individuals and organizations
who cannot attend this event to make sure you submit comments and
attachments electronically at 
http://www.regulati
ons.gov, the Federal
eRulemaking Portal. The ID # is 3046-AA85. Written comments may also be
submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive Secretariat, EEOC, 131 M
Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. Comments
may be transmitted by facsimile ("FAX'') machine by dialing (202)
663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or
fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal. Comments must be
submitted on or before November 23, 2009.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _
Please forward as appropriate - we are truly seeking comment from the
public, from business and employers as well as the disability and
disability advocacy community. Thank you.

From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Mon Oct 19 21:11:38 2009
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:11:38 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and
 other resources
In-Reply-To: <D950F2F477BF4DE287CBAE804AAB60BD@spike>
References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov>
	<D950F2F477BF4DE287CBAE804AAB60BD@spike>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6766@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

Thanks - I'll give it another shot, although I'm finding that at least
in the Arizona materials, our profession is having a bit of difficulty
(to be nice) measuring up to the goal of accessibility for all.  Keeping
my fingers crossed, though.  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2009 12:15 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and
otherresources

Probably the best solution would be to use Westlaw on line to get this 
materials.
Chuck
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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and 
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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue Oct 20 18:13:45 2009
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:13:45 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar!
References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <3AC7FBA20AEF455C877D40568FBC0E87@valtd>

Angie, hearty congratulations!  God bless you as you begin carving a niche 
in the legal profession.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Oct 20 20:08:33 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:08:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Managing Your Word Documents, ABA September/October 2009
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

This article relates to discussions that have occurred on this list about document management programs.  It may give some idea for other programs to try out for accessibility.



Link:
http://new.abanet.org/publishing/bookbriefsblog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=95

Text:
10/13/2009
Managing Your Word Documents
By Ben M. Schorr
Excerpted from The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Word 2007

Microsoft produced Office 2007 with a strong emphasis on collaboration, and this plays nicely into how lawyers tend to use their tools. Having partners, associates, co-counsel, clients, witnesses, and paralegals work on a document means that it has many authors and editors. Effectively working together to produce a professional finished document is key to running a great law practice.

Third-Party Document Management Systems

I have to admit that I sort of resent third-party document-management systems. They're an expensive crutch whose sole reason for existence is simple human weakness. With any modern computer, if you use an intelligent file-naming convention in a disciplined fashion and a good file-searching system-Copernic Desktop and Windows Desktop Search (WDS) are two such options that are also free-then you really don't need a third-party document-management system.

Document management exists to help you and your colleagues intelligently save, store, and find documents. You can accomplish the same thing by establishing a policy that says, "All memos will be saved to the client's folder, under the matter subfolder, with a file name in the format of 'Memo to [X] regarding [Y],'" and then adhering religiously to that policy. Everybody would be able to find a document they were looking for and the search tool (like WDS) would help cover those scenarios where simple good file names and directory structures don't fit the bill.

Unfortunately, in the real world, people are rushed and corners get cut. Pretty soon the root folder of the structure starts to fill up with files named "Memo1," "Memo2," "Jonesmemo," and so forth as people cut the handful of steps required to save the file properly and just save it as quickly as they can, with whatever name they can bang out fast, and move on. Then you have the filing equivalent of kindergarten, and nobody can remember which cubby they put their shoes in.

Document-management systems solve this problem by automating some of the process (extracting keywords from the document itself, and inserting the author and editor IDs) and by forcing other parts of it-requiring the user to type in a client/matter number, for example. They also generally include a search engine that can be used to search the document profiles as well as the document itself. In addition to the purpose-built document-management tools, many case-management suites like ProLaw or Client Profiles are capable of some document management as well. If you already have a full-featured case-management suite in place, you might want to see if it can address your document-management needs before you invest in a separate document-management tool.

DocsOpen by Open Text (formerly "Hummingbird")

The venerable DocsOpen system is one that just about any lawyer who has been around a decade or two has probably run across in at least one firm. It was, for a time, the most popular system among the AmLaw 100, and if it has fallen from that perch it has only been due to cost, competition, and perhaps some disillusionment among firms with the product-which, to be honest, is probably inevitable with a product as complicated and ubiquitous as a document-management system is. More information is available at http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-edocs-products2/pro-llecm-docsopen.htm.

Interwoven WorkSite (formerly known as iManage)

Probably the other leading vendor in the AmLaw 100 for document and content management is Interwoven. Their WorkSite is extremely modular and can be customized for a particular firm. More information is available at http://www.interwoven.com.

Worldox

Worldox has been around since the late 1980s and is widely used in small- to mid-sized firms. Unlike its competitors, Worldox has always been Worldox and hasn't evolved through acquisition and change of ownership. It started out as a reasonably priced solution for smaller firms and has grown a bit from there. It's still pretty reasonably priced for what you get. More information is available at http://www.worldox.com.

Created By: Kurt Harzke | Category: Legal Technology | Permalink



From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 20 22:14:01 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:14:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 



From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 22:12:17 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:12:17 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>

You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the
document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this.

I hope this is what you were asking.

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 


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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 20 22:34:05 2009
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:34:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000901ca51d5$6f0d0a90$280110ac@HP8730notebook>

hi,

1 sign your name several times, choose the best one, scan it so you can slap 
it where you need it.
2 use the ms word bradley hand itc font and 18 point and it will look like 
your signature.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
>
>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Tue Oct 20 22:42:01 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:42:01 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>

I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB  Independence 
Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several hours 
a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of 
sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their  assistants.  I 
had mine made at Office Max.
Hope that answers your question.
 
Ronza
 
 
In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:

How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston



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From pattichang at att.net  Tue Oct 20 23:07:09 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:07:09 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>
Message-ID: <6C590520A6574E5195E35928D90F73DF@D3J75Z91>

My favorite method is a post it note.  You can stick it on the paper right 
below where you have to sign and it doesn't even require that someone be 
here.  Also, it doesn't slip or slide.  I used to have to do 20 or so 
releases a day and it worked well.

P.S.  National Federation of the Blind of Illinois is now on twitter at 
www.twitter.com/nfbi.
We also have a facebook page.  Just search for our full name.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
pattichang at att.net
www.nfbofillinois.org
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the
> document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this.
>
> I hope this is what you were asking.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 20 23:21:33 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:21:33 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov><SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS1400285E5647BBBA34B56EBBC00@phx.gbl>

Thanks, Will.


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:12 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the
> document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this.
>
> I hope this is what you were asking.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:07:05 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:05 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Pac Mate Omni for Sale
Message-ID: <30B6CFD886164672A222D9EB19835DA1@Rufus>

I hope this is not completely off-list, but if there are any attorneys in
search of a notetaker, read below:

Subject: Pac Mate Omni for Sale

I have a Pac Mate Omni BX420 for sale.  The firmware is the latest version,
6.2.  The unit is in excellent condition, including all cells on the Braille
display.

Features:

. Access to the mobile version of Windows PowerPointR . Microsoft's Direct
Push Technology for real time synchronization of e-mail, calendar, contacts,
and tasks . Smart filtering for rapid location of e-mail messages . Easy
information searches via Windows Live Search . Support for the Windows Live
Messenger voice clip feature providing users with "push-to-talk"
functionality in instant messaging . "Plug and Play" support for popular
WiFi and BluetoothR cards

The package will include the following items:

. Pac Mate Omni
. 20 cell Pac Mate portable display
. Plastic backing pieces for both the Pac Mate Omni and display for
independent operation . AC adapter . USB cable . Standard to mini USB
adapter . 1 gig cf card . 128 meg cf card . CF modem adapter . CF Ethernet
adapter . CF wireless adapter and drivers . CF FM tuner and drivers . PCMCIA
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From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 21 00:21:42 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:21:42 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>

I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there
is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document
you create.

As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more
courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature
wil be important to you.


Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 


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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:30:35 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:30:35 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>
References: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS136DFFF02083EB3CC0325EBBBF0@phx.gbl>

Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.

 And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing my 
name several times and choosing the best and scan it.

I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.

I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!

Take care


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB  Independence
> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
> hours
> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their  assistants. 
> I
> had mine made at Office Max.
> Hope that answers your question.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>
> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
> opposing
>
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 00:41:12 2009
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <cd3.6285003b.380f96b9@aol.com>
	<SNT128-DS136DFFF02083EB3CC0325EBBBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at 
different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or 
laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner 
of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left 
corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the 
left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps 
use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 00:46:16 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:46:16 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>
Message-ID: <03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com>

For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four
squares for you to sign in.  They can choose the best signature and scan it
into the computer.  They can then place the signature where it needs to be
in a blank letterhead on your signature block.  If they choose the right
one, it won't even be pixilated.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there
is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document
you create.

As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more
courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature
wil be important to you.


Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
task to an assistant?

I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?

I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston
 


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From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 01:00:59 2009
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:00:59 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl><AA8DD681CF9A4E17AB3E51F19E1CE104@russ>
	<03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com>
Message-ID: <003a01ca51e9$f4369c90$280110ac@HP8730notebook>

that's what i said.
if the person wants to know, you can code it into a macro that can be fired 
to complete the entire act of signing a letter from sincerely down to 
esquire.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four
> squares for you to sign in.  They can choose the best signature and scan 
> it
> into the computer.  They can then place the signature where it needs to be
> in a blank letterhead on your signature block.  If they choose the right
> one, it won't even be pixilated.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but 
> there
> is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document
> you create.
>
> As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more
> courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged 
> signature
> wil be important to you.
>
>
> Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
>
>
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From dlb723 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 21 02:37:01 2009
From: dlb723 at comcast.net (Don Brown)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:37:01 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Judge rules for ACB in Social Security case
Message-ID: <2CCF93E3FCB74386924BA27B8BEA52B5@donpc>

Judge Alsup's decision in the ACB vs. SSA case came out today  
(10.20.09):

Judge William Alsup of the US District Court, Northern District of  
California in San Francisco, today issued a judgment in favor of the  
American Council of the Blind (ACB) and two classes of 3,000,000  
individuals with blindness and visual impairments.  The suit  
challenged the Social Security Administration's (SSA) failure to  
provide its critical benefits communications to recipients in  
alternative formats that would enable people with visual impairments  
to have equal access to SSA programs as required by federal disability  
civil rights laws.

This ruling signals a major victory for the disability rights  
movement, and it sets precedent for the obligations of other federal  
and state agencies to accommodate people who are blind or have visual  
impairments. The Social Security Administration (SSA) sends out 390  
million notices and forms each year.  Plaintiffs won the right to  
receive communications in a format that is accessible to them, and  
Judge Alsup ruled that these formats, at a minimum, must include  
Braille and CD.

Here are links to the

Judgment
http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Judgment.pdf

and

Findings of Fact and Conclusions
http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Findings.pdf


From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 07:25:40 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:25:40 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike>

A signature is a signature. Therefore, I sign it and don't worry about it as 
my typed signature appears on the document. I have had no problems with this 
during the many years I was a social worker where I frequently had to sign 
releases and other documents. This also has not been a problem as a 
paralegal. Additionally, I will have a secretary or clerk act as a witness 
when a client is signing forms such as a release of information to make sure 
they have signed it properly.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing 
> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this 
> task to an assistant?
>
> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible?
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic.
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
>
>
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From b75205 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 15:10:57 2009
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:10:57 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB77E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<SNT128-DS11C016A49D7A83D962012EBBC00@phx.gbl>
	<4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike>
Message-ID: <fe5b78280910210810i58092492ic2c74b3821f1c0d5@mail.gmail.com>

Techie here.  I design documents where the signature is placed at certain
consistent locations on the page and I tell you where it is located by
distance, for instance, a half inch above the bottom edge of the page within
a margin of a half inch on each side of the page, and I do not place any
other content near it so you have room to manuever. But you will not
find designers who are doing this type of thing because they rarely care
about telling you where things are located.

Also they are stuck in the idea that a digital form for the blind must look
exactly the same as a paper form even though the current stock of paper
forms use fonts that are too small to be scanned. Most government forms use
fonts that are tiny and so you cannot use OCR software on them, so where is
the "meeting of the minds" for all of you legal experts?  How do you record
a copy of a document if you cannot scan it and have a copy and why is it
that people think it is your responsibility to determine what is on a page
that is sent to you.  I have noticed that there is a lot of editorial work
done on scans to make them intelligible and that responsibility is placed on
the receiver of a document when it should be the responsibility to
communicate their thoughts from the writer of the document.

Forms designers cannot conceive of the idea of a large print form as a
minimal concern for the blind, let alone using fonts that can be scanned and
used with OCR.  Both are tied together because if you cannot scan the
document, then how do you have a copy you can access?

Digital Signatures in PDF files can have your actual signature as an image
and it binds the page and changes the accessibility of the page so you have
to be careful of how you set those settings and you are limited in the use
to 500 copies of a form due to licensing from Adobe of this technology, so
you don't see this used very often in PDF documents.

Many government agencies require a written signature and do not allow
digital signatures. The Elections Assistance Commission insists on it for
voter registration.

It would solve a lot of problems if a signature field could be signed
electronically so you would not have to know where the signature field was
located on the page, you just sign it when the screen reader finds the
field.

James Pepper

From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 21 18:27:50 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:27:50 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Blindlaw listers:

This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.

Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 19:09:17 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:09:17 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>
	<E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>

It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to.  There are
some letters where that may work.  There are others where it does not.  In
Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, we
are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic signature
and a physical one does not need to be there.

So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in.

I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters that
do not offer specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for advertisement
letters and such.  We never use them for anything case related.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

Blindlaw listers:

This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life
as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.

Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at
different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner
of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left
corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the
left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps
use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a 
> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several 
>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate  this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
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From parnell at sccoast.net  Wed Oct 21 19:22:14 2009
From: parnell at sccoast.net (Parnell and Kim Diggs)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:22:14 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <D05D82C8D9594786A5E608B8721B2D83@ownerbe272x6xz>

A signature is typically any mark, applied by hand or otherwise, that the 
declarant holds out to be a signature.  This is why notaries and witnesses 
come in handy at times.

Parnell Diggs
President
National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Blindlaw listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my 
> life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
> at different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or 
> laminated guide with a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the 
> corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom 
> left corner of your stamp.
>
> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
> the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so 
> perhaps use a hole punch to do the same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several
>>> hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>> had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>> opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov  Wed Oct 21 19:43:49 2009
From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:43:49 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook>
	<E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6789@EVS02.central.pima.gov>

One of my co-workers is quadriplegic.  It took a major amount of doing,
but a rubber stamp was finally approved.  Our office had to file a
"jurat" with both the superior court and the appellate court to certify
that the stamp was her signature.  At the same time, however, our judges
routinely stamp orders, rather than individually signing them.  As with
my co-worker's stamp, it is not a replication of the individual's
signature, but rather a typeface/print stamp of the name.  All in all, I
suppose the legality of the stamp may depend on the jurisdiction.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009 11:28 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

Blindlaw listers:

This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my
life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.

Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

hi,

are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line
at different places on the pages?
if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
laminated guide with a l notch.
the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the
corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the
bottom left corner of your stamp.

if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at
the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so
perhaps use a hole punch to do the same.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys


> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>
> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of
signing 
> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>
> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a

> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>
> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>
> Take care
>
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C. 718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles
Hamilton 
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB 
>> Independence
>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several

>> hours
>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots
of
>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their 
>> assistants. I
>> had mine made at Office Max.
>> Hope that answers your question.
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, 
>> opposing
>>
>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate
this
>> task to an assistant?
>>
>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>>
>>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Oct 21 20:26:47 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:26:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive
 technology with Lexis
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7B6@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Blindlaw listers:

The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would include using Lexis with assistive technology.

Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology?  If so, please send me an e-mail with the information at:

noel.nightingale at ed.gov

Thank you.

Noel Nightingale



From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 21 21:22:43 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:22:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook><E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
	<049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS290E326F696B213D956A3BBBF0@phx.gbl>

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may work.  There are others where it does not.  In
> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, 
> we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic 
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
> advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
> at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several
>>> hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>> had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>> opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 21:20:05 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:20:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-DS290E326F696B213D956A3BBBF0@phx.gbl>
References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook><E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB7A3@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>	<049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com>
	<SNT128-DS290E326F696B213D956A3BBBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <051b01ca5294$43b2a8e0$cb17faa0$@com>

There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may work.  There are others where it does not.  In
> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, 
> we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic 
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
> advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
> at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And when I got to the point of spending  several
>>> hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>> had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your question.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>> opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this  topic.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>> Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Thu Oct 22 00:16:55 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:16:55 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.
 
Ronza
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From roddj12 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 22 01:25:46 2009
From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:25:46 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
References: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-DS10281E4D12492B3115AB01BBBE0@phx.gbl>

I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation 
of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your 
signature as written by you.

I think that's the rout I will take.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C. 718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

> By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature. 
> Or
> anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.
> Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a 
> signature
> which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings,
> discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put 
> the marks
> made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by
> courts, other attorneys, etc.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:
>
> There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
> That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys
>
> There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as 
> sufficient
> as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it 
> is
> made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys
>
>> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There
>> are
>> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.
> In
>> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most
> cases,
>>  we
>> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic
>> signature
>> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>>
>> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are 
>> in.
>>
>> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters
>> that
>> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for
>>  advertisement
>> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>> Blindlaw  listers:
>>
>> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my
>> life
>> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>>
>> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line
>>  at
>> different places on the pages?
>> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
>> laminated guide with  a l notch.
>> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the
>> corner
>> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
>> corner of your stamp.
>>
>>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at
>
>> the
>> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so
>> perhaps
>> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message  -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>>
>>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of 
>>> signing
>>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>>
>>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>>
>>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>>
>>> Take  care
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>  --------------------------------------------------
>>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>>
>>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>>> Independence
>>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>>  hours
>>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots 
>>>> of
>>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>>> assistants. I
>>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>>
>>>>  Ronza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>>  opposing
>>>>
>>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate
>>>> this
>>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>>
>>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>>
>>>> Take  care.
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
>>>> Hamilton
>>>>  Houston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 03:06:03 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:06:03 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
References: <cde.5646cae9.3810fe77@aol.com>
Message-ID: <05f201ca52c4$98961240$c9c236c0$@com>

As someone stated earlier, this depends on the jurisdiction you're in and
the firm you work for.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:17 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a
signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put
the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.
 
Ronza
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 
 
> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Thu Oct 22 03:22:33 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:22:33 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <ca1.654e20cb.381129f9@aol.com>

I suppose you could get both forms.  I went to the printer and told  them I 
wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on  an 
electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores 
after  swiping a credit card.  They then used the image of my original signature 
 to create the stamp.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:

I am  still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation 
of a  signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your  
signature as written by you.

I think that's the rout I will  take.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM
To:  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it  was your  signature. 
> Or
> anyone could look up your  Attorney number online and use  that too.
> Forgery is forgery,  whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a 
>  signature
> which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp  for  pleadings,
> discovery, official notification, and even before  a notery  public.  I 
put 
> the marks
> made by that  stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by
> courts,  other attorneys, etc.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a  message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:
>
> There's  no difference in  the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
> That's the   reason we only used it for advertisements.
>
> -----Original   Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org   [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
> Behalf Of Rod  Alcidonis
> Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
> To:  NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind  attorneys
>
> There is a twist here.  Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as 
> sufficient
> as  a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it 
 
> is
> made from one's signature, what's the difference   between the two?
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
Hamilton
> Houston
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
> From:  "WB"  <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009  3:09  PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"   <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents  as  blind attorneys
>
>> It depends on what instrument you  are affixing the  signature to.  There
>> are
>>  some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does  not.
> In
>> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a  pleading, though in most
> cases,
>>  we
>> are  doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic
>>  signature
>> and a physical one does not need to be   there.
>>
>> So I'm guessing this would be determined by  what  jurisdiction you are 
>> in.
>>
>> I  would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic  letters
>> that
>> do not offer  specific legal advice,  etc.  We only use them for
>>  advertisement
>>  letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case  related.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind  Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents  as blind attorneys
>>
>> Blindlaw   listers:
>>
>> This line of discussion has inspired a  question that  has come up in my
>> life
>> as a power  of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>>
>> Is a  rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal   signature?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Law  Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> are  you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the  
line
>>  at
>> different places on the  pages?
>> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot,  create a cardboard 
or
>> laminated guide with  a l  notch.
>> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of  the  page and the
>> corner
>> of the l notch will  provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom 
left
>> corner  of your stamp.
>>
>>  if you have assistance, ask the  person to punch one staple vertically 
at
>
>> the
>>  left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer  so
>> perhaps
>> use a hole punch to do the   same.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> -----  Original Message  -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis"  <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20,  2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, always   helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I   
need.
>>>
>>> And, thanks for all of the other  suggestions. I  like the idea of 
>>> signing
>>>  my name several times and choosing the  best and scan  it.
>>>
>>> I don't like to use the signature   guide because it it is too long of a
>>> process when one has to  sign  multiple documents at once.
>>>
>>> I think  I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>>
>>>  Take  care
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis,   Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a  social  engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
>>>  Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>   --------------------------------------------------
>>> From:   <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009  6:42  PM
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>  Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys
>>>
>>>> I  used a signature  card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>>>  Independence
>>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I  got to the point of spending  several
>>>>   hours
>>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp  made  for  me.  Lots 
>>>>  of
>>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give  them to their
>>>> assistants. I
>>>>  had  mine made at Office Max.
>>>> Hope that answers your   question.
>>>>
>>>>   Ronza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> How do  you  guys go  about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>>   opposing
>>>>
>>>> parties, etc --  those  of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate
>>>>  this
>>>> task  to an  assistant?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, signing that  it  actually looks  somewhat  legible?
>>>>
>>>> I would  appreciate any  suggestions on this   topic.
>>>>
>>>>  Take  care.
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
>>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>> "A  lawyer is either a social  engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
>>>>  Hamilton
>>>>   Houston
>>>>
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From cdborne at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 03:53:30 2009
From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:53:30 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <ca1.654e20cb.381129f9@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC>

You can also get this done at an Office Depot.  They had me sign my name
larger than usual three times, then they took the best quality and reduced
it to a stamp that was normal signature size.  I had them do it in blue ink
so it looked more like a real signature when compared to the black ink of
the letter.
Craig 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:23 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

I suppose you could get both forms.  I went to the printer and told  them I
wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on  an
electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores after
swiping a credit card.  They then used the image of my original signature
to create the stamp.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:

I am  still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation
of a  signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your
signature as written by you.

I think that's the rout I will  take.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM
To:  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it  was your  signature. 
> Or
> anyone could look up your  Attorney number online and use  that too.
> Forgery is forgery,  whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a  
> signature which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp  for  
> pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before  a notery  
> public.  I
put 
> the marks
> made by that  stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted 
> by courts,  other attorneys, etc.
>
> Ronza
>
>
> In a  message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:
>
> There's  no difference in  the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
> That's the   reason we only used it for advertisements.
>
> -----Original   Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org   [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
> Behalf Of Rod  Alcidonis
> Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
> To:  NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind  attorneys
>
> There is a twist here.  Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as 
> sufficient as  a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  
> made, but if it
 
> is
> made from one's signature, what's the difference   between the two?
>
> Take care.
>
> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
> C.  718-704-4651
> roddj12 at hotmail.com
> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles
Hamilton
> Houston
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
> From:  "WB"  <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009  3:09  PM
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"   <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents  as  blind attorneys
>
>> It depends on what instrument you  are affixing the  signature to.  
>> There are  some letters where that may  work.  There are others where 
>> it does  not.
> In
>> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a  pleading, though in most
> cases,
>>  we
>> are  doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
>> signature
>> and a physical one does not need to be   there.
>>
>> So I'm guessing this would be determined by  what  jurisdiction you 
>> are in.
>>
>> I  would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic  
>> letters that do not offer  specific legal advice,  etc.  We only use 
>> them for  advertisement  letters and such.  We never use them for 
>> anything  case  related.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>>  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind  Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents  as blind attorneys
>>
>> Blindlaw   listers:
>>
>> This line of discussion has inspired a  question that  has come up in 
>> my life as a power  of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>>
>> Is a  rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal   signature?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>>  To: NFBnet Blind Law  Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> are  you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the
line
>>  at
>> different places on the  pages?
>> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot,  create a 
>> cardboard
or
>> laminated guide with  a l  notch.
>> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of  the  page and 
>> the corner of the l notch will  provide the correct  x/y position for 
>> the bottom
left
>> corner  of your stamp.
>>
>>  if you have assistance, ask the  person to punch one staple 
>> vertically
at
>
>> the
>>  left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer  
>> so perhaps
>> use a hole punch to do the   same.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> -----  Original Message  -----
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis"  <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20,  2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as  blind attorneys
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, always   helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I   
need.
>>>
>>> And, thanks for all of the other  suggestions. I  like the idea of 
>>> signing  my name several times and choosing the  best and scan  it.
>>>
>>> I don't like to use the signature   guide because it it is too long of a
>>> process when one has to  sign  multiple documents at once.
>>>
>>> I think  I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>>
>>>  Take  care
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis,   Esq.
>>> C.  718-704-4651
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A lawyer is either a  social  engineer or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton  Houston
>>>
>>>   --------------------------------------------------
>>> From:   <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009  6:42  PM
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>  Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys
>>>
>>>> I  used a signature  card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB  
>>>> Independence Market for like $2.  And  when I  got to the point of 
>>>> spending  several
>>>>   hours
>>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp  made  for  me.  
>>>> Lots  of sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give  them to 
>>>> their assistants. I  had  mine made at Office Max.
>>>> Hope that answers your   question.
>>>>
>>>>   Ronza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight  
>>>> Time,  roddj12 at hotmail.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> How do  you  guys go  about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>>   opposing
>>>>
>>>> parties, etc --  those  of us who  aren't able or willing to 
>>>> delegate  this task  to an  assistant?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, signing that  it  actually looks  somewhat  legible?
>>>>
>>>> I would  appreciate any  suggestions on this   topic.
>>>>
>>>>  Take  care.
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis,  Esq.
>>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>>> "A  lawyer is either a social  engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>>> Hamilton
>>>>   Houston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From marks at accessingenuity.com  Thu Oct 22 04:07:10 2009
From: marks at accessingenuity.com (Mark Stimson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:07:10 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive
	technology with Lexis
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Message-ID: <002501ca52cd$2823f960$786bec20$@com>

Hi Noel, I have recently spoken to someone there about screen reader access.
This particular person was the contact person I was given, but she is not
the most knowledgeable about the access issues.  She does however know the
two individuals that are employees at Lexis who are JAWS users, and are
supposedly very knowledgeable.  So, in a nutshell, contact the person below
to get her contacts.

Michele Wyllie
Lexis-Nexis
(415) 829-8429


Best regards, Mark
Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Accessibility Specialist
www.DocumentAccessibility.com
www.AccessIngenuity.com

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Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive
technology with Lexis

Blindlaw listers:

The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a
continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would
include using Lexis with assistive technology.

Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using
Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology?  If so, please
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From b75205 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 07:29:01 2009
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:29:01 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
In-Reply-To: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC>
References: <ca1.654e20cb.381129f9@aol.com>
	<28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC>
Message-ID: <fe5b78280910220029n19bbdc43x736d999a2e38fda5@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps it is time to bring back the old signet ring where you press your
ring into wax to seal a document like the romans used to do!  That way you
would have the mark on your person at all times.

James Pepper

From pattichang at att.net  Thu Oct 22 12:35:24 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang )
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:35:24 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
Message-ID: <LL6kyJGQF433.TdzXgXCy@smtp.att.yahoo.com>

Our entire court system uses electronic signatures.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
Date: 10/21/2009 8:04 PM

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.

Ronza


In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 

> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 18:45:46 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:46 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone in Houston
Message-ID: <087901ca5347$dfa757b0$9ef60710$@com>

Hi everyone!

 

If there is anyone in Houston, would you please contact me off-list?  I want
to share some information with you.

 

Thanks so much.

 

William

mruniverse08 at gmail.com 


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 15:41:05 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:41:05 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
Message-ID: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>

I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury  
duty.  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report  
tomorrow.  I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury  
because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what  
I can expect.  The thing is, I really need even the small amount of  
money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can  
someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know  
what to expect?  My current plan is to show up at the court house  
tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I  cannot at this time  
afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.  Is there an alternate plan  
I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and  
apologize.
Thanks for any information.

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!




From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 25 17:16:28 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:16:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ>

There are no blanket exclusions for anyone to serve on a jury in California.
When you go through the security check at the Courthouse, ask one of the
officers where you should go and someone will help you. 


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty

I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury  
duty.  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report  
tomorrow.  I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury  
because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what  
I can expect.  The thing is, I really need even the small amount of  
money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can  
someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know  
what to expect?  My current plan is to show up at the court house  
tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I  cannot at this time  
afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.  Is there an alternate plan  
I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and  
apologize.
Thanks for any information.

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



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From mikefry79 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 18:02:33 2009
From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:02:33 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8c58e54a0910251102x5a5d8b75kdc9c6b9046dcb8ee@mail.gmail.com>

I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse
to not show up.  They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in
order to actually be on a jury.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> wrote:

> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty.
>  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow.  I
> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my
> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect.  The
> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by
> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can someone familiar with the
> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect?  My current
> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in
> hand, but I  cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.
>  Is there an alternate plan I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this
> sort of thing, and apologize.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ <http://markburninghawk.net/>
> Namaste!
>
>
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From habnkid at aol.com  Sun Oct 25 18:34:28 2009
From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:28 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
Message-ID: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>

Hello Listers,

I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if 
it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT 
score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations 
I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate 
argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further 
complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's 
just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to 
get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are 
very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact 
that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it 
based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the 
mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score 
differently due to my blindness?

best,
Haben


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 18:53:31 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:53:31 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ>
Message-ID: <2C44720D-40B9-4948-86C0-516D5DFDE8B3@sbcglobal.net>

Yes, thank you; this is my plan, to show up with summons in hand and  
request whatever accommodations may be available.  If I get struck, I  
get struck.  Thanks to all who have responded to my inquiries on this  
matter.

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!




From pattichang at att.net  Sun Oct 25 19:21:04 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang )
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:04 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
Message-ID: <LVPWJsc4YxML.wcCmrg8s@smtp.att.yahoo.com>

In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty
From: Michael Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com>
Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM

I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse
to not show up.  They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in
order to actually be on a jury.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> wrote:

> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty.
>  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow.  I
> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my
> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect.  The
> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by
> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can someone familiar with the
> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect?  My current
> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in
> hand, but I  cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk.
>  Is there an alternate plan I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about this
> sort of thing, and apologize.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ <http://markburninghawk.net/>
> Namaste!
>
>
>
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From goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 19:29:52 2009
From: goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net (Sarah Clark)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:29:52 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2>

Haben,
For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think that law 
schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of other blind 
students that have applied to/attended their school.
I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school."  Its 
possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its too 
low for a top 20 school.  I know of someone who recently went to UCLA with a 
similar score.  Of course, the caliber of undergrad school you went to and 
your performance there also makes a difference.  She had went to Stanford 
for undergrad and did very well there.  Her name is Stephanie Enyart.  I 
don't know where her contact info is offhand, but you can probably track her 
down.  Maybe she's on this list? She also applied to and was accepted to 
other top 20 schools, so you should be able to get some good input from her 
on applying.  She also headed a national organization for law students with 
disabilities, so undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that 
she herself went through the application process.
Good luck.

Sarah




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?


> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it 
> would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score 
> is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I 
> requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
> that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument 
> to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating 
> this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. 
> According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a 
> top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. 
> Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took 
> the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those 
> conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? 
> Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my 
> blindness?
>
> best,
> Haben
>
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From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 25 19:37:43 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:37:43 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A40D0858990346C788360690E6C524CC@russ>

162 is an excellent score. However, you must be very realistic about what
that score gets you today.  Whether you are blind or sighted, that score
will probably not get you into a top tier law school.  If you received
accommodations, then mentioning your visual impairment would be viewed as an
excuse.

It would be better to mention your blindness at some point in your personal
statement, and let those who will decide on your admission know that bit of
personal information about you.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Haben Girma
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?

Hello Listers,

I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if 
it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT 
score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations 
I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate 
argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further 
complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's 
just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to 
get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are 
very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact 
that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it 
based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the 
mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score 
differently due to my blindness?

best,
Haben

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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sun Oct 25 20:13:01 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:13:01 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E70BA38746D440BDAAD6B5BA73C1B367@StevePC>

What school are your going for?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:34 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?


> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if
> it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT
> score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations
> I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear
> that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate
> argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further
> complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's
> just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to
> get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are
> very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact
> that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it
> based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the
> mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score
> differently due to my blindness?
>
> best,
> Haben
>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Sun Oct 25 20:14:43 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:14:43 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <LVPWJsc4YxML.wcCmrg8s@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
References: <LVPWJsc4YxML.wcCmrg8s@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F0C7DECE72C7450EA83ED5344CE1C5A9@StevePC>

No, but it is my understanding that most attorneys will exclude blind 
individuals from cases.  Is this true?  Any stats in that particular area?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patti chang" <pattichang at att.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL.
>
> Patti Gregory-Chang
> President, NFBI
> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty
> From: Michael Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com>
> Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM
>
> I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an 
> excuse
> to not show up.  They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in
> order to actually be on a jury.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk 
> <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
>> wrote:
>
>> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury 
>> duty.
>>  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. 
>> I
>> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my
>> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. 
>> The
>> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by
>> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can someone familiar with 
>> the
>> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect?  My current
>> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons 
>> in
>> hand, but I  cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to 
>> walk.
>>  Is there an alternate plan I should follow?  I'm very ignorant about 
>> this
>> sort of thing, and apologize.
>> Thanks for any information.
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ <http://markburninghawk.net/>
>> Namaste!
>>
>>
>>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 26 22:51:26 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:26 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>

You can delay or postpone your summons for up to a year so if you need to 
delay it until you can get there you will be able to do so. Your information 
about blind people sitting on juries is outdated. Blind people can and do 
serve on juries. When I was called for jury duty I was going to be seated as 
an alternate on a wrongful death medical malpractice case and was dismissed 
not because of my being blind but because the defense attorney representing 
the doctor charged wanted to know the names of attorneys that I had worked 
for. As they were either plaintiff attorneys or criminal defense attorneys 
he felt that I would have a bias in favor of the plaintiff. Of course, this 
is the actual scenario that I expected would happen and I told this to 
another prospective juror that I was waiting with. I hope this still helps 
as I am just getting caught up on emails as I was at California NFB 
convention this week end. Contact me off list if you need to about this.
Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty


>I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury 
>duty.  I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report 
>tomorrow.  I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury 
>because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what  I 
>can expect.  The thing is, I really need even the small amount of  money I 
>might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve.  Can  someone 
>familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know  what to 
>expect?  My current plan is to show up at the court house  tomorrow morning 
>with the summons in hand, but I  cannot at this time  afford a cab or bus, 
>so will have to walk.  Is there an alternate plan  I should follow?  I'm 
>very ignorant about this sort of thing, and  apologize.
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 26 23:35:16 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:35:16 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DC269F11E45F4A4A9C17E9FC0A13C368@spike>

one option might be to take it again now that you are familoiar with the 
test. If your score is higher they will then use the higher score.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?


> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it 
> would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score 
> is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I 
> requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear 
> that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument 
> to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating 
> this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. 
> According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a 
> top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. 
> Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took 
> the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those 
> conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? 
> Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my 
> blindness?
>
> best,
> Haben
>
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From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 00:08:59 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:59 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
Message-ID: <BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>

Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others,  
and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were  
all sent home on the first day.  It was an honorable dismissal, and by  
that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to  
fulfill my duty.  So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide- 
dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Tue Oct 27 01:34:59 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:34:59 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <93D7B0490B524A7996D2990FD8ABD6C1@StevePC>

Good job!
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others,
> and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were
> all sent home on the first day.  It was an honorable dismissal, and by
> that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to
> fulfill my duty.  So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide-
> dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :)
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 02:17:23 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:17:23 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net><CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>

You won't get called again for at least the next year.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others,  and 
> all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were  all sent 
> home on the first day.  It was an honorable dismissal, and by  that time I 
> was just as glad to get out, having done my best to  fulfill my duty.  So, 
> while it was an interesting exercise in guide- dog/GPS field mobility, no 
> actual jury duty was done. :)
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
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From habnkid at aol.com  Tue Oct 27 03:31:42 2009
From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:31:42 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
In-Reply-To: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2>
References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com>
	<00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2>
Message-ID: <4AE6699E.5080201@aol.com>


Sarah and Russell, thanks for the advice. By "top school" I mean one of 
the top ten, but partiuclarly I would really love to get into UC 
Berkeley or Stanford. I do need to be realistic, I have a better chance 
of getting into a top 20 school than a top 5. I appreciate getting 
feedback from other blind law students. Stephanie has been very helpful 
over the summer, I'll email her and see what she has to add.

thanks,
Haben

On 10/25/2009 12:29 PM, Sarah Clark wrote:
> Haben,
> For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think 
> that law schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of 
> other blind students that have applied to/attended their school.
> I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school."  Its 
> possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its 
> too low for a top 20 school.  I know of someone who recently went to 
> UCLA with a similar score.  Of course, the caliber of undergrad school 
> you went to and your performance there also makes a difference.  She 
> had went to Stanford for undergrad and did very well there.  Her name 
> is Stephanie Enyart.  I don't know where her contact info is offhand, 
> but you can probably track her down.  Maybe she's on this list? She 
> also applied to and was accepted to other top 20 schools, so you 
> should be able to get some good input from her on applying.  She also 
> headed a national organization for law students with disabilities, so 
> undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that she herself 
> went through the application process.
> Good luck.
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind?
>
>
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering 
>> if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my 
>> LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the 
>> accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went 
>> according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse 
>> rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test 
>> taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT 
>> score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law 
>> adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the 
>> way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools 
>> look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under 
>> very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? 
>> Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would 
>> it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my 
>> blindness?
>>
>> best,
>> Haben
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
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>
>
>
>
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 12:53:55 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:53:55 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
Message-ID: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>

Folks,

 

Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?

 

The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools
in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
appreciate it.

 

Thanks!

 

William


From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 14:52:07 2009
From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:52:07 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net><CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
	<7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>
Message-ID: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net>

Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll  
just throw myself off the bridge. :)

Mark BurningHawk
stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
Namaste!



From benkarpilow at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 17:32:13 2009
From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:32:13 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
Message-ID: <9733773B71364F41AE30279E22A3A95F@benbpgavlhgwwr>

William, I suggest you contact the Los Angeles County Bar Association and 
ask them about local paralegal programs.

Ben



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> Folks,
>
>
>
> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>
>
>
> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal 
> programs/schools
> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
> appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> William
>
> _______________________________________________
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Tue Oct 27 17:35:07 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:35:07 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty
In-Reply-To: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net>
References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net>
	<CA9AF1D694EB426AB9AAEBB2D93650E0@spike>
	<BD54F030-15A7-40C2-9B65-EE8345A11FD7@sbcglobal.net>
	<7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike>
	<2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7D6087BE9743413EB772119C47F179C7@StevePC>

You hang in there man!  I'm sure something will happen for you that is good.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty


> Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll
> just throw myself off the bridge. :)
>
> Mark BurningHawk
> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> Namaste!
>
>
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From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 27 23:06:50 2009
From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:06:50 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
Message-ID: <A1C18EBCC7E8425983D106523A84E4F4@RThomas>

U.C. Irvine has an excellent program. A B.A. degree is a prerequisite. There
are many other schools that offer such programs, ranging from the very good
to the very bad. Do a Google search for Paralegal schools in Los Angeles or
Orange County and see what comes up.



Respectfully,

 

Russell J. Thomas, Jr.

THOMAS & ASSOCIATES

www.californiaemployersattorneys.com

 

Orange County Office                      

4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101

Newport Beach, California 92660                             

T: (949) 752-0101                             

F: (949) 257-4756

M: (949) 466-7238

 

Beverly Hills Office

9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450

Beverly Hills, California 90210 

T: (310) 461-3561

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:54 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California

Folks,

 

Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?

 

The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools
in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
appreciate it.

 

Thanks!

 

William

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From benkarpilow at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 01:13:11 2009
From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:13:11 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone practicing workers compensation law?
Message-ID: <0B6215BB22614433AF5F104E953BA24C@benbpgavlhgwwr>

Hello listers, do any of you practice in the area of worker's compensation law?If so, I'd be interested in hearing about your practice techniques. Feel free to contact me off list at

benkarpilow at gmail.com

Thanks, Ben


From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 04:24:34 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:24:34 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
Message-ID: <C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>

    The following resources may be of help.
California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide 
organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
www.caparalegal.org
Paralegal Network
http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network 
for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the 
paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal 
Advanced Competency Exam
www.paralegals.org
Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> Folks,
>
>
>
> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>
>
>
> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal 
> programs/schools
> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really
> appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> William
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Oct 28 05:00:02 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:00:02 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with
 United States Department of Education
Message-ID: <auto-000123747193@mailfront1.g2host.com>



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org


National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with
United States Department of Education




Inaccessible Web Site U.S.A. Learns Discriminates Against the Blind



Baltimore, Maryland (October 27, 2009): The National Federation of 
the Blind (NFB), the nation's oldest and largest organization of 
blind people and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind 
to information technology, and Carlos Mora, a blind resident of 
Baltimore, Maryland, filed an administrative complaint today with the 
United States Department of Education.  The complaint asserts that 
one of the United States Department of Education's Web sites, U.S.A 
Learns, violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act because it is 
inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech screen access 
technology or Braille displays to access information on the 
Internet.  Because of the inaccessibility of the U.S.A Learns Web 
site, blind people cannot access or navigate through the content of 
the English vocabulary, spelling, and pronunciation lessons that are 
offered through the site.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "In an age where the Internet is a part of everyday life, blind 
people must have equal access to the information and resources 
provided on the World Wide Web.  In particular, the United States 
government has a legal and moral obligation to ensure that the 
information it provides on the Internet is equally accessible to all 
in America, including the blind.  It is especially ironic that the 
Department of Education, which is commissioned to provide educational 
opportunities for all, would deny blind people access to a Web site 
that provides instructive tools for those who speak English as a 
second language.  This is unacceptable and we demand equal access for 
all blind people."

Carlos Mora, a blind individual from Baltimore, Maryland, said: "I 
work full time and have been accepted to a master's degree program at 
Johns Hopkins University, and English is my second language.  I 
attempted to use the U.S.A. Learns Web site to prepare for my 
everyday life and my future studies by practicing English vocabulary, 
spelling, and pronunciation, but the Web site was not accessible to 
me.  It is frustrating to be denied access to any Web site, but it is 
especially so when I am being denied access to a Web site with 
educational tools that would help me to become a more active and 
productive member of American society."



This is the third complaint filed by the National Federation of the 
Blind on behalf of blind people in America regarding the 
inaccessibility of a federal government Web site.  The NFB plans to 
file complaints about other inaccessible federal government Web sites 
as the organization continues to receive multiple reports from blind 
people of barriers they have faced while trying to access government 
information, programs, and services on the Internet.



Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and 
Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore 
Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, Maryland  21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: 
(410) 385-0869, <mailto:dfg at browngold.com>dfg at browngold.com, 
<mailto:ah at browngold.com>ah at browngold.com, 
<http://www.browngold.com/>www.browngold.com.





###



About the National Federation of the Blind



With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind 
is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind 
people in the United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives 
through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs 
encouraging independence and self-confidence.  It is the leading 
force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's 
blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in 
the United States for the blind led by the blind.


From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Wed Oct 28 16:17:09 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:17:09 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com>
	<C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>
Message-ID: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC>

Chuck:

How much work is out there for new paralegal folks?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


>    The following resources may be of help.
> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide
> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
> www.caparalegal.org
> Paralegal Network
> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network
> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the
> paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal
> Advanced Competency Exam
> www.paralegals.org
> Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>
>
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal
>> programs/schools
>> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would 
>> really
>> appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 18:18:17 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:18:17 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
In-Reply-To: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC>
References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com><C5C85B21E54448A6B159D19847BC42CE@spike>
	<84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC>
Message-ID: <F07D9C0808B446AA98616F62271F1845@spike>

This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded and 
with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their 
support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in 
others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal 
secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door. 
Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms 
that would not require full time paralegal services.
It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well as 
there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such as 
public policy or legislative analysts, etc.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> Chuck:
>
> How much work is out there for new paralegal folks?
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>
>
>>    The following resources may be of help.
>> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide
>> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
>> www.caparalegal.org
>> Paralegal Network
>> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
>> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network
>> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the
>> paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal
>> Advanced Competency Exam
>> www.paralegals.org
>> Chuck
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>>
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal
>>> programs/schools
>>> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
>>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would 
>>> really
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>>
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Wed Oct 28 19:46:08 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:46:08 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
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Thanks.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California


> This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded 
> and
> with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their
> support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in
> others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal
> secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door.
> Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms
> that would not require full time paralegal services.
> It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well 
> as
> there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such 
> as
> public policy or legislative analysts, etc.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>
>
>> Chuck:
>>
>> How much work is out there for new paralegal folks?
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>>
>>
>>>    The following resources may be of help.
>>> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide
>>> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession
>>> www.caparalegal.org
>>> Paralegal Network
>>> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/
>>> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide 
>>> network
>>> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the
>>> paralegal profession.  Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal
>>> Advanced Competency Exam
>>> www.paralegals.org
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California
>>>
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good morning!  How is everyone's Tuesday going so far?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal
>>>> programs/schools
>>>> in the Los Angeles area.  If someone could give me the name(s) of the
>>>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would
>>>> really
>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From craig.borne at dot.gov  Fri Oct 30 14:01:40 2009
From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:01:40 -0400
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Scholarship Opportunity for MBA program in North
	Carolina
Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E82412B@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov>

 
FREE MASTERS PROGRAM AT WAKE FOREST RECEIVES POOR RESPONSE 
 
Wake Forest University has an opportunity for minority students to
attend its MBA program for FREE, and so far, the response has been very
poor. Please, pass along this opportunity to your friends, families, and
networks to see if there is an interest. This is a great school and a
tremendous opportunity to attend a top graduate school. 
 
See details below.  The contact person information is: 
 
Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D. 
Associate Professor of Marketing 
Room 3139 Worrell Professional Center 
Babcock Graduate School of Management 
Wake Forest University 1834 Wake 
Forest Drive Winston-Salem , NC 27109-8758 
 
email:              derrick.boone at ... 
Website:          http://mba.wfu.edu/ <http://mba.wfu.edu/>  
Phone:             (336)..758.4475; 
Toll-free:          (866) 925-3622; 
Fax:                 336.758.4514 
 
Message from Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D.: 
 
Greetings, I wanted to let you know about a great opportunity here at
Wake Forest where you can get a FREE education and get PAID while you're
doing it. Our Dean of the Schools of Business is the former CEO of
PepsiCo and very committed to diversity. He's gone around to his CEO
friends, who have agreed to donate a bunch of money to pay tuition and
fees, provide a stipend, and a job, to diverse students. The details are
below. The problem is, response to the program has been dismal! As a
faculty member, I would be embarrassed for him to have to tell his CEO
friends, "thanks so much for your donation, but unfortunately I have to
give it back because we couldn't find Any students who wanted it." So, I
need your help. Please contact me if you, or ANYONE you know is
interested in the program. I want to help out as many young scholars as
I can. Don't worry about whether or not you (or they) have taken the
GMAT, etc. All you need to do at this point is JUST APPLY. 
 
About the Program: The Master of Art in Management program is designed
specifically for liberal arts majors only. The MA degree program is a 10
month intense study of the basic functional areas of  Business. After
graduation and working for approximately two years, all MA graduates are
eligible to apply to Wake Forest as part of the MA/MBA joint degree
program and get the MBA in one year. The new Dean, Steve Reinemund, has
created a new scholarship for diverse students pursuing the MA degree
called the Corporate Fellowship. 
 
The Corporate Fellowship provides full tuition and a $21,000 stipend to
cover living expenses. Additionally, each Corporate Fellow will
participate in a practicum. The practicum has two components,
educational and professional development. Each student will be assigned
a mentor that is a high level executive with their sponsor corporation.
The mentor will oversee an educational project covering 4 of the
functional areas of business using their own corporation as the subject.

 
The student will visit the corporation 3 - 4 times during the program to
present his/her results of their research project. Additionally, the
"professional development" component of the fellowship provides career
coaching and leadership development for the students. 
 
The goal for the corporation is to be able to groom and hopefully, hire
a top candidate from a diverse background for their organization. Of
course, there is no obligation that the students accept any offer of
employment. Still, the student benefits, even if they are not ultimately
hired by their sponsor corporation in that they have the MA degree and
the type of experience that will make them more marketable. 
 





From dandrews at visi.com  Sat Oct 31 16:36:52 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:36:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Social Security Told to Modernize for the Blind
Message-ID: <auto-000124350862@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Subject: Social Security told to modernize for the blind

Social Security told to modernize for the blind

Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

(10-20) 17:17 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- The Social Security Administration
must
give the nation's 3 million blind or visually impaired recipients the
option
of receiving benefit notices in braille or by audio computer disc, a
federal
judge in San Francisco said Tuesday.

Ruling in a nationwide class-action suit, U.S. District Judge William
Alsup
said that by sending notices only by mail and phone calls, the agency is
violating
a law that guarantees the disabled equal access to its programs. He
ordered
the government to make the additional choices available by April 15.

The case involves some of the 100 million notices the Social Security
Administration sends each year to its 61 million beneficiaries, advising
them of scheduled
appointments, program changes, tax filings and possible benefit cuts.

About 250,000 Americans receive benefits because of blindness, and
another
2.7 million blind or sight-impaired people get Social Security for other
reasons.

Under rules authorized by Congress in 1988 and 1990, they can choose to
be
notified of agency actions by mail, with a follow-up phone call, or by
certified
mail with a return receipt. Those who make no choice are contacted by
mail
without a phone call.

Alsup said the current system may have been effective 20 years ago, but
no
longer provides the "meaningful access" the law requires, in light of
advanced
technology.

Little evidence was presented that blind people had lost benefits
because of
inadequate notice, Alsup said, but the current system is ineffective for
at
least some recipients.

For example, he said, a blind person who needs to respond to a written
notice must wait until someone is available to read it aloud, and may
have
problems
meeting government deadlines.

Alsup said the Social Security Administration refused to acknowledge
that it
was even covered by the anti-discrimination law until after the suit was
filed
in 2005, and "has been quick to find lame excuses for noncompliance."

The agency must inform all blind and visually impaired recipients by
Dec. 31
that they will have the choice of getting notices in braille or by
Microsoft
Word CD in mid-April, Alsup said. He said those who want another option,
such as notification by e-mail, must be allowed to request it and show
why
they
need it.

"This is a huge benefit," said attorney Silvia Yee of the Disability
Rights
Education and Defense Fund in Berkeley, a lawyer for the plaintiffs. She
said
the ruling will allow many recipients "to have an independence in
working
with the (Social Security Administration) that they've never had
before."

Many sight-impaired recipients, particularly the young and those who
become
blind later in life, can't read braille, Yee said, "but for people who
do
read
braille, it's their first choice." She said the CD option would
particularly
help younger recipients.

Lowell Kepke, spokesman for the Social Security Administration's
regional
office in Richmond, said the agency "will review the order and take
whatever
actions
are appropriate."



From withat at msn.com  Sat Oct 31 17:56:30 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:30 -0700
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>

Hello all,
I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this.

I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.

Thanks much.

Jay in Oregon

From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Sat Oct 31 21:24:08 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:24:08 EDT
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
Message-ID: <cbf.4a5598b2.381e04f8@aol.com>

Jay,
 
Welcome to the list.
 
You raise an excellent point.  I had the same problem trying to figure  out 
the big picture with the outline method at first.  I ultimately  developed 
the habit of creating two outlines.  The first one was a really  general big 
picture sort - less than a page.  Think of it as a sort of  table of 
contents, if you want.  I even went back and added page numbers to  my other 
outline later.  I modeled this one-pager after the course sylabus  outline.  I 
also created it near the beginning of the semester so that I  had a sense of 
where we were headed.  I've pasted portions of that  one-pager at the bottom 
of this email for your reference.
 
Then I would take that really general "big picture" outline and fill it in  
with specific cases, concepts, and exceptions.  So I might include things  
like "definition" or a specific case name and short description under one of 
the  subcategories.  By the time the term ended, I'd have just as long an  
outline as everyone else, but I also had the one-pager, which was great for  
little cram sessions and to keep me grounded.  In fact, I actually compiled 
 all the one-pagers and used them to help me study for the bar exam.
 
Let me know if you want me to send you other examples.
 
Good luck,
Ronza
 
 
Course Title: Torts
I. Intentional Torts
A. Assault
B. Battery
C. False Imprisonment
D. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED)
E. Trespass to Land
...
II. Harm to Economic and Dignitary Interests
A. Defamation
B. Invasion of Privacy
C. Misrepresentation
D. Interference with Business Relations
...
III. Negligence
A. Prima Facia Case
    1. Duty
    2. Breach
    3. Causation
    4. Damages
B. Defenses
    1. Contributory Negligence
    2. Comparative Negligence
    3. Assumption of Risk
    4. Strict Liability
...

 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
withat at msn.com writes:

Hello  all,
I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a  recent 
thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This  is my first year 
in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question  whether the typical 
method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters,  etc. with 
indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be  hard to see the big 
picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like  this.

I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.

Thanks  much.

Jay in  Oregon
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