[blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 48, Issue 22
Stephanie Ortoleva
womankind at earthlink.net
Mon May 26 14:43:21 CDT 2008
Craig, do you work for US DOT here in Washington, DC? I used to
work there in 2001 - 2004, before I changed jobs.
Stephanie
At 01:14 PM 5/26/2008, you wrote:
>I practice civil rights law with the Department of Transportation, and I
>have a side practice drafting Wills and Trusts, as well as other
>transactional law (contracts, business formation, employment agreements,
>etc.).
>Where do your interests lie?
>Craig
>
>Craig Borne
>Baltimore, Maryland
>cjborne at comcast.net
>"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial
>appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in
>defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>Jennifer Applegate
>Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 1:04 PM
>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 48, Issue 22
>
>By the way what area of law do you practice? I am a sophomore in college
>and looking for law advice or mentors.
>
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> 1. k-nfb mobile reader software.doc (Jennifer Applegate)
> 2. (no subject) (Stephanie Ortoleva)
> 3. Re: (no subject) (David Andrews)
> 4. Re: (no subject) (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
> 5. Re: (no subject) (Stephanie Ortoleva)
> 6. Re: (no subject) (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
> 7. Re: (no subject) (Gregory I. Vendeland)
> 8. Re: The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for discussion to
> kill 2birds with one stone (Angie Matney)
> 9. Re: (no subject) (albert griffith)
> 10. Re: The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for discussionto
> kill 2birds with one stone (Mark BurningHawk)
> 11. Re: (no subject) (Craig Borne)
> 12. Blackberry Connect Article (Craig Borne)
>
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:48:55 -0500
>From: "Jennifer Applegate" <jlastar at comcast.net>
>Subject: [blindlaw] k-nfb mobile reader software.doc
>To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <200805242349.m4ONnA428020 at www.nfbnet.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>From: Jennifer Applegate [jlastar at comcast.net]
>
>Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:11 PM
>
>To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>
>Subject: k-nfb mobile reader software
>
>
>
> I have recently recieved the k-nfb mobile reader software from a raffel
>drawing, and I am desiring to find someone who could benifit from having
>this software. I plan on donating all the money to my independence march
>imagination funds. This software previously weighed 4 pounds and cost over
>$3,000. Now it is just $1595 and is lightweight using a cell phone. If you
>are looking to read practically anything on the go like money, food menus
>and recipes, receipts, bills, mail, airplain ticket itenerary, airplain
>magazines, hotel literature, store catalogs, street signs, food and drink
>labels, political ballots, textbooks accept math equations, and papers from
>work. This is the latest and greatest in a solution for you. my contact
>info is jlastar at comcast.net or 832-687-5199 if you or someone you know is
>interested. I will be at the convention if the person interested wishes to
>buy it there and save shipping costs.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:01:19 -0400
>From: Stephanie Ortoleva <womankind at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>, "'NFBnet
> Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <E1K05Xw-0001Bp-NG at elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
>Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
>Stephanie
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:51:27 -0500
>From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <auto-000051931663 at mailfront1.g2host.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>There is not an accessible Blackberry as such. I believe Humanware
>is doing some work, but no product has come out yet.
>
>There is a way you can use an accessible cell phone, and the right
>software called Blackberry Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
>acts like a blackberry. There was an article in a recent Access
>World from AFB by Don Barrett where he explained the whole thing.
>
>Dave
>
>At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> >Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an
> >accessible Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to
> >pass???Thank you.
> >Stephanie
> >
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:05:06 EDT
>From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Message-ID: <cf8.331f633e.356a3162 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry. I have
>
>Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other companies, as
>it
>is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak. I can download and read
>email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
>numbers using Excel, etc. Basically, Stephanie, depending on what you're
>needing
>from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for Blackberry
>to
>become accessible.
>
>Ronza
>
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>dandrews at visi.com writes:
>
>There is not an accessible Blackberry as such. I believe Humanware
>is doing some work, but no product has come out yet.
>
>There is a way you can use an accessible cell phone, and the right
>software called Blackberry Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
>acts like a blackberry. There was an article in a recent Access
>World from AFB by Don Barrett where he explained the whole thing.
>
>Dave
>
>At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> >Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an
> >accessible Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to
> >pass???Thank you.
> >Stephanie
> >
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>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:10:57 -0400
>From: Stephanie Ortoleva <womankind at earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <E1K06dK-000114-5V at elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>Dear all,
>
>Do either of these phones have a keyboard or do you need to type in
>messages using the 3 by 4 telephone keyboard only?
>
>Stephanie
>At 11:05 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> >I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry. I
>have
> >Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other
> >companies, as it
> >is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak. I can download and read
> >email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
> >numbers using Excel, etc. Basically, Stephanie, depending on what
> >you're needing
> >from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for Blackberry
>to
> >become accessible.
> >
> >Ronza
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >dandrews at visi.com writes:
> >
> >There is not an accessible Blackberry as such. I believe Humanware
> >is doing some work, but no product has come out yet.
> >
> >There is a way you can use an accessible cell phone, and the right
> >software called Blackberry Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
> >acts like a blackberry. There was an article in a recent Access
> >World from AFB by Don Barrett where he explained the whole thing.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> > >Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an
> > >accessible Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to
> > >pass???Thank you.
> > >Stephanie
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
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> > >
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>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:17:22 EDT
>From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Message-ID: <d52.2ad31f01.356a3442 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>The MotoQ and the Blackberry both use a QWERTY keyboard, so you have all
>the
>letters at your fingertips. There are shift, caps lock, space bar, and
>enter keys and everything. If you're in Dallas, I'd be happy to show you
>my
>phone.
>
>Ronza
>
>
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2008 10:12:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>womankind at earthlink.net writes:
>
>Dear all,
>
>Do either of these phones have a keyboard or do you need to type in
>messages using the 3 by 4 telephone keyboard only?
>
>Stephanie
>At 11:05 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> >I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry. I
>have
> >Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other
> >companies, as it
> >is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak. I can download and
>read
> >email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
> >numbers using Excel, etc. Basically, Stephanie, depending on what
> >you're needing
> >from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for Blackberry
>
>to
> >become accessible.
> >
> >Ronza
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >dandrews at visi.com writes:
> >
> >There is not an accessible Blackberry as such. I believe Humanware
> >is doing some work, but no product has come out yet.
> >
> >There is a way you can use an accessible cell phone, and the right
> >software called Blackberry Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
> >acts like a blackberry. There was an article in a recent Access
> >World from AFB by Don Barrett where he explained the whole thing.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> > >Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an
> > >accessible Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to
> > >pass???Thank you.
> > >Stephanie
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >blindlaw mailing list
> > >blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> > >
> > >
> > >No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > >5/24/2008 8:56 AM
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:19:02 -0700
>From: "Gregory I. Vendeland" <vendeland at msn.com>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <BAY104-DAV1D50810E33DAA3D5801E3BEC30 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Please write me off list. I have information I can share about this, but
>was blasted last time for writing about off-topic items.
>
>Greg
>vendeland at q.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>
>
> >I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry. I
> >have
> > Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other companies, as
>
> > it
> > is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak. I can download and
> > read
> > email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
> > numbers using Excel, etc. Basically, Stephanie, depending on what you're
> > needing
> > from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for Blackberry
>
> > to
> > become accessible.
> >
> > Ronza
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > dandrews at visi.com writes:
> >
> > There is not an accessible Blackberry as such. I believe Humanware
> > is doing some work, but no product has come out yet.
> >
> > There is a way you can use an accessible cell phone, and the right
> > software called Blackberry Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
> > acts like a blackberry. There was an article in a recent Access
> > World from AFB by Don Barrett where he explained the whole thing.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
> >>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an
> >>accessible Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to
> >>pass???Thank you.
> >>Stephanie
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>blindlaw mailing list
> >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> >>
> >>
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> >>Checked by AVG.
> >>Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date:
> >>5/24/2008 8:56 AM
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 02:16:44 -0400
>From: "Angie Matney" <angie at mpmail.net>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for
> discussion to kill 2birds with one stone
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <200805250614.m4P6E8431102 at www.nfbnet.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Hello Bruce,
>
>But changing paper money would have one advantage: It would lead to more
>employment opportunities for blind people. Even if we had an infalible
>system for identifying currency (and while it's wonderful, I don't think the
>KNFB Reader is infalible), the
>average employer wouldn't know that. They would not want to hire a blind
>person to manage a cash register or to do any work that involved paper
>money. There is a chance that there will be some short-term resentment of
>blind people for
>"demanding" this accommodation, but I'm absolutely convinced that it will be
>quickly forgotten.
>
>Just sharing my unpopular view.
>
>Angie
>
>
>
>On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:37:41 -0400, Bruce E. Naccari wrote:
>
> > This is a possibly hare-brained idea simply tossed off casually here for
>others to ponder; I have not thought enough about it to decide myself if it
>is a good or bad idea:
> >IF the US is presented with judgments requiring as a legal duty that it
>make paper currency identifiable to the blind and if one permissible
>response is to issue to all blind currency users each his or her own device
>to read the denomination of currency
>notes, then perhaps some thought could be given to killing two birds with
>one stone.
><snip>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 02:18:49 -0400
>From: "albert griffith" <albertpgriffith at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <BLU118-DAV6E94EC7519816331457D8BAC30 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Go to,
>www.afb.org
>and look for Access World.
>I'm not sure of the issue but you'll find an article about an AT And T
>product called something like Black Berry Connect which will make that
>system accessible.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>Of Stephanie Ortoleva
>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:01 PM
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>
>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
>Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
>Stephanie
>
>_______________________________________________
>blindlaw mailing list
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>
>Message: 10
>Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:23:25 -0700
>From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for
> discussionto kill 2birds with one stone
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <005d01c8be7b$473eec20$4201a8c0 at markea5ff9c354>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>As much as I applaud the way the wind is blowing--toward making accessible
>currency that does not require the purchase of a several-hundred-dollar
>identifying device--I am a bit disheartened at how long it must take. Even
>if new bills were put into circulation in overwhelming amounts in the next
>fiscal year (which will not happen), the old ones will still also be in
>circulation--how many times have we gotten a two or three-year-old bill?
>Money floats.
>
>While making high-end education, jobs and culture accessible to blind people
>
>is a great dream, the small things, like not being able to tell your bills
>apart, and having to rely on strangers, is a reality. It's the little
>indignities, a few drops every day, which make up the ocean of misperception
>
>and ignorance. Little acts every day make for big prejudices. I think
>that, if there were less of these little messages of helplessness, the
>bigger dreams would be much more easily realized.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Angie Matney" <angie at mpmail.net>
>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for
>discussionto kill 2birds with one stone
>
>
> > Hello Bruce,
> >
> > But changing paper money would have one advantage: It would lead to more
> > employment opportunities for blind people. Even if we had an infalible
> > system for identifying currency (and while it's wonderful, I don't think
> > the KNFB Reader is infalible), the
> > average employer wouldn't know that. They would not want to hire a blind
> > person to manage a cash register or to do any work that involved paper
> > money. There is a chance that there will be some short-term resentment of
> > blind people for
> > "demanding" this accommodation, but I'm absolutely convinced that it will
> > be quickly forgotten.
> >
> > Just sharing my unpopular view.
> >
> > Angie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:37:41 -0400, Bruce E. Naccari wrote:
> >
> >> This is a possibly hare-brained idea simply tossed off casually here for
>
> >> others to ponder; I have not thought enough about it to decide myself if
> >> it is a good or bad idea:
> >>IF the US is presented with judgments requiring as a legal duty that it
> >>make paper currency identifiable to the blind and if one permissible
> >>response is to issue to all blind currency users each his or her own
> >>device to read the denomination of currency
> > notes, then perhaps some thought could be given to killing two birds with
> > one stone.
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 11
>Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:28:00 -0400
>From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <009201c8be7b$eb3e1b70$0200a8c0 at computer>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Thank you, Albert.
>Has anyone found the issue that the article is in? According to the table
>of contents, it wasn't in the January, March, or May issue this year.
>Craig
>
>Craig Borne
>Baltimore, Maryland
>cjborne at comcast.net
>"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial
>appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in
>defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of albert
>griffith
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:19 AM
>To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>
>Go to,
>www.afb.org
>and look for Access World.
>I'm not sure of the issue but you'll find an article about an AT And T
>product called something like Black Berry Connect which will make that
>system accessible.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>Of Stephanie Ortoleva
>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:01 PM
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>
>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
>Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
>Stephanie
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:32:30 -0400
>From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne at comcast.net>
>Subject: [blindlaw] Blackberry Connect Article
>To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <009301c8be7c$8c2a6570$0200a8c0 at computer>
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>
>Nevermind, I found it! It is amazing what you can find when you search
>correctly! The article can be found at
>http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605.
>It is called, "A Thorny Problem: Accessing the BlackBerry Device -
>AccessWorldR - November 2007"
>Craig
>
>Craig Borne
>Baltimore, Maryland
>cjborne at comcast.net
>"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial
>appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in
>defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of albert
>griffith
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:19 AM
>To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>
>Go to,
>www.afb.org
>and look for Access World.
>I'm not sure of the issue but you'll find an article about an AT And T
>product called something like Black Berry Connect which will make that
>system accessible.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>Of Stephanie Ortoleva
>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:01 PM
>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
>
>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
>Blackberry. Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
>Stephanie
>
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