[blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 48, Issue 22

Craig Borne cjborne at comcast.net
Mon May 26 12:14:29 CDT 2008


I practice civil rights law with the Department of Transportation, and I
have a side practice drafting Wills and Trusts, as well as other
transactional law (contracts, business formation, employment agreements,
etc.).
Where do your interests lie?
Craig

Craig Borne 
Baltimore, Maryland
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"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial
appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in
defense of custom."  --Thomas Paine, Common Sense

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Jennifer Applegate
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 48, Issue 22

By the way what area of law do you practice?  I am a sophomore in college
and looking for law advice or mentors. 

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Today's Topics:

   1. k-nfb mobile reader software.doc (Jennifer Applegate)
   2. (no subject) (Stephanie Ortoleva)
   3. Re: (no subject) (David Andrews)
   4. Re: (no subject) (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
   5. Re: (no subject) (Stephanie Ortoleva)
   6. Re: (no subject) (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
   7. Re: (no subject) (Gregory I. Vendeland)
   8. Re: The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for discussion	to
      kill 2birds with one stone (Angie Matney)
   9. Re: (no subject) (albert griffith)
  10. Re: The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for	discussionto
      kill 2birds with one stone (Mark BurningHawk)
  11. Re: (no subject) (Craig Borne)
  12. Blackberry Connect Article (Craig Borne)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:48:55 -0500
From: "Jennifer Applegate" <jlastar at comcast.net>
Subject: [blindlaw] k-nfb mobile reader software.doc
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From: Jennifer Applegate [jlastar at comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:11 PM

To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'

Subject: k-nfb mobile reader software

 

    I have recently recieved the k-nfb mobile reader software from a raffel
drawing, and I am desiring to find someone who could benifit from having
this software.  I plan on donating all the money to my independence march
imagination funds.  This software previously weighed 4 pounds and cost over
$3,000.  Now it is just $1595 and is lightweight using a cell phone.  If you
are looking to read practically anything on the go like money, food menus
and recipes, receipts, bills, mail, airplain ticket itenerary, airplain
magazines, hotel literature, store catalogs, street signs, food and drink
labels, political ballots, textbooks accept math equations, and papers from
work.  This is the latest and greatest in a solution for you.  my contact
info is jlastar at comcast.net or 832-687-5199 if you or someone you know is
interested.  I will be at the convention if the person interested wishes to
buy it there and save shipping costs.



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:01:19 -0400
From: Stephanie Ortoleva <womankind at earthlink.net>
Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>,	"'NFBnet
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Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
Stephanie 



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:51:27 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
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There is not an accessible Blackberry as such.  I believe Humanware 
is doing some work, but no product has come out yet.

There is a way you can use an accessible cell phone, and the right 
software called Blackberry Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that 
acts like a blackberry.  There was an article in a recent Access 
World from AFB by Don Barrett where he explained the whole thing.

Dave

At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an
>accessible Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to 
>pass???Thank you.
>Stephanie
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:05:06 EDT
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry.  I  have

Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other companies, as
it 
is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak.  I can download and  read 
email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch  
numbers using Excel, etc.  Basically, Stephanie, depending on what you're
needing 
from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for  Blackberry
to 
become accessible.
 
Ronza
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
dandrews at visi.com writes:

There is  not an accessible Blackberry as such.  I believe Humanware 
is doing  some work, but no product has come out yet.

There is a way you can use  an accessible cell phone, and the right 
software called Blackberry  Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that 
acts like a blackberry.   There was an article in a recent Access 
World from AFB by Don Barrett  where he explained the whole thing.

Dave

At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008,  you wrote:
>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about  an
>accessible Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to  
>pass???Thank  you.
>Stephanie
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:10:57 -0400
From: Stephanie Ortoleva <womankind at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
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Dear all,

Do either of these phones have a keyboard or do you need to type in 
messages using the 3 by 4 telephone keyboard only?

Stephanie
At 11:05 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
>I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry.  I
have
>Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other 
>companies, as  it
>is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak.  I can download and  read
>email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
>numbers using Excel, etc.  Basically, Stephanie, depending on what 
>you're  needing
>from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for  Blackberry
to
>become accessible.
>
>Ronza
>
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>dandrews at visi.com writes:
>
>There is  not an accessible Blackberry as such.  I believe Humanware
>is doing  some work, but no product has come out yet.
>
>There is a way you can use  an accessible cell phone, and the right
>software called Blackberry  Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
>acts like a blackberry.   There was an article in a recent Access
>World from AFB by Don Barrett  where he explained the whole thing.
>
>Dave
>
>At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008,  you wrote:
> >Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about  an
> >accessible Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to
> >pass???Thank  you.
> >Stephanie
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:17:22 EDT
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <d52.2ad31f01.356a3442 at aol.com>
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The MotoQ and the Blackberry both use a QWERTY keyboard, so you have all
the 
letters at your fingertips.  There are shift, caps lock, space bar, and  
enter keys and everything.  If you're in Dallas, I'd be happy to show you
my 
phone.
 
Ronza
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2008 10:12:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
womankind at earthlink.net writes:

Dear  all,

Do either of these phones have a keyboard or do you need to type  in 
messages using the 3 by 4 telephone keyboard  only?

Stephanie
At 11:05 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
>I have the  Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry.  I   
have
>Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other  
>companies, as  it
>is a Windows based phone) and I use  Mobile Speak.  I can download and
read
>email, send text  messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
>numbers using  Excel, etc.  Basically, Stephanie, depending on what 
>you're   needing
>from your personal data device, you might not have to wait  for  Blackberry

to
>become  accessible.
>
>Ronza
>
>
>
>
>
>In  a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,
>dandrews at visi.com writes:
>
>There is  not an  accessible Blackberry as such.  I believe Humanware
>is doing   some work, but no product has come out yet.
>
>There is a way you  can use  an accessible cell phone, and the right
>software called  Blackberry  Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
>acts like  a blackberry.   There was an article in a recent Access
>World  from AFB by Don Barrett  where he explained the whole  thing.
>
>Dave
>
>At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008,  you  wrote:
> >Some time ago there was some discussion on this list  about  an
> >accessible Blackberry.  Does anyone know if  this ever came to
> >pass???Thank  you.
>  >Stephanie
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:19:02 -0700
From: "Gregory I. Vendeland" <vendeland at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
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Please write me off list.  I have information I can share about this, but 
was blasted last time for writing about off-topic items.

Greg
vendeland at q.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)


>I have the Motorola Q (MotoQ), and it works much like a Blackberry.  I 
>have
> Sprint, (but this model is also available through most other companies, as

> it
> is a Windows based phone) and I use Mobile Speak.  I can download and 
> read
> email, send text messages, draft documents using Microsoft Word, crunch
> numbers using Excel, etc.  Basically, Stephanie, depending on what you're 
> needing
> from your personal data device, you might not have to wait for  Blackberry

> to
> become accessible.
>
> Ronza
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/24/2008 9:51:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> dandrews at visi.com writes:
>
> There is  not an accessible Blackberry as such.  I believe Humanware
> is doing  some work, but no product has come out yet.
>
> There is a way you can use  an accessible cell phone, and the right
> software called Blackberry  Connect, with AT&T and get a phone that
> acts like a blackberry.   There was an article in a recent Access
> World from AFB by Don Barrett  where he explained the whole thing.
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:01 PM 5/24/2008,  you wrote:
>>Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about  an
>>accessible Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to
>>pass???Thank  you.
>>Stephanie
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 02:16:44 -0400
From: "Angie Matney" <angie at mpmail.net>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for
	discussion	to kill 2birds with one stone
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <200805250614.m4P6E8431102 at www.nfbnet.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello Bruce,

But changing paper money would have one advantage: It would lead to more
employment opportunities for blind people. Even if we had an infalible
system for identifying currency (and while it's wonderful, I don't think the
KNFB Reader is infalible), the 
average employer wouldn't know that. They would not want to hire a blind
person to manage a cash register or to do any work that involved paper
money. There is a chance that there will be some short-term resentment of
blind people for 
"demanding" this accommodation, but I'm absolutely convinced that it will be
quickly forgotten. 

Just sharing my unpopular view.

Angie



On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:37:41 -0400, Bruce E. Naccari wrote:

>  This is a possibly hare-brained idea simply tossed off casually here for
others to ponder; I have not thought enough about it to decide myself if it
is a good or bad idea:
>IF the US is presented with judgments requiring as a legal duty that it
make paper currency identifiable to the blind and if one permissible
response is to issue to all  blind currency users each his or her own device
to read the denomination of currency 
notes, then perhaps some thought could be given to killing two birds with
one stone.
<snip>







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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 02:18:49 -0400
From: "albert griffith" <albertpgriffith at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <BLU118-DAV6E94EC7519816331457D8BAC30 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Go to, 
www.afb.org 
and look for Access World.
I'm not sure of the issue but you'll find an article about an AT And T
product called something like Black Berry Connect which will make that
system accessible. 

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[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Stephanie Ortoleva
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:01 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)

Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
Stephanie 

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:23:25 -0700
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for
	discussionto kill 2birds with one stone
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
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As much as I applaud the way the wind is blowing--toward making accessible 
currency that does not require the purchase of a several-hundred-dollar 
identifying device--I am a bit disheartened at how long it must take.  Even 
if new bills were put into circulation in overwhelming amounts in the next 
fiscal year (which will not happen), the old ones will still also be in 
circulation--how many times have we gotten a two or three-year-old bill? 
Money floats.

While making high-end education, jobs and culture accessible to blind people

is a great dream, the small things, like not being able to tell your bills 
apart, and having to rely on strangers, is a reality.  It's the little 
indignities, a few drops every day, which make up the ocean of misperception

and ignorance.  Little acts every day make for big prejudices.  I think 
that, if there were less of these little messages of helplessness, the 
bigger dreams would be much more easily realized.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie at mpmail.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The currency ID case:an"IF" proposal for 
discussionto kill 2birds with one stone


> Hello Bruce,
>
> But changing paper money would have one advantage: It would lead to more 
> employment opportunities for blind people. Even if we had an infalible 
> system for identifying currency (and while it's wonderful, I don't think 
> the KNFB Reader is infalible), the
> average employer wouldn't know that. They would not want to hire a blind 
> person to manage a cash register or to do any work that involved paper 
> money. There is a chance that there will be some short-term resentment of 
> blind people for
> "demanding" this accommodation, but I'm absolutely convinced that it will 
> be quickly forgotten.
>
> Just sharing my unpopular view.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:37:41 -0400, Bruce E. Naccari wrote:
>
>>  This is a possibly hare-brained idea simply tossed off casually here for

>> others to ponder; I have not thought enough about it to decide myself if 
>> it is a good or bad idea:
>>IF the US is presented with judgments requiring as a legal duty that it 
>>make paper currency identifiable to the blind and if one permissible 
>>response is to issue to all  blind currency users each his or her own 
>>device to read the denomination of currency
> notes, then perhaps some thought could be given to killing two birds with 
> one stone.
> <snip>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:28:00 -0400
From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject)
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Thank you, Albert.
Has anyone found the issue that the article is in?  According to the table
of contents, it wasn't in the January, March, or May issue this year.
Craig

Craig Borne 
Baltimore, Maryland
cjborne at comcast.net
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial
appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in
defense of custom."  --Thomas Paine, Common Sense

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Go to, 
www.afb.org 
and look for Access World.
I'm not sure of the issue but you'll find an article about an AT And T
product called something like Black Berry Connect which will make that
system accessible. 

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Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
Stephanie 

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Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:32:30 -0400
From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne at comcast.net>
Subject: [blindlaw] Blackberry Connect Article
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Nevermind, I found it!  It is amazing what you can find when you search
correctly!  The article can be found at
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605.
It is called, "A Thorny Problem: Accessing the BlackBerry Device -
AccessWorldR - November 2007"
Craig

Craig Borne 
Baltimore, Maryland
cjborne at comcast.net
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial
appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in
defense of custom."  --Thomas Paine, Common Sense

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+cjborne=comcast.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of albert
griffith
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:19 AM
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Go to, 
www.afb.org 
and look for Access World.
I'm not sure of the issue but you'll find an article about an AT And T
product called something like Black Berry Connect which will make that
system accessible. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindlaw-bounces+albertpgriffith=hotmail.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Stephanie Ortoleva
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:01 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject)

Some time ago there was some discussion on this list about an accessible
Blackberry.  Does anyone know if this ever came to pass???Thank you.
Stephanie 

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