[blindlaw] blindlaw Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13

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>    1. Accessing Documents in an Office Setting (Aser
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:33:42 -0800
> From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing Documents in an Office
> Setting
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> Hello,
> I was wondering if I could ask for guidance. I'm a
> 1L with very
> limited vision. I have pretty much decided that
> criminal prosecution
> is my calling. The problem as I see it is a very
> large volume of paper
> material requiring rapid attention; I think I can
> look forward to
> prepping a lot of misdemeanor cases. Judging from my
> skimming of the
> list archives, it seems the standard solution has
> become scanners and
> OCR; the deputy DA I addressed my concerns to,
> remarked that their
> office had employed a reader as a reasonable
> accommodation in the
> past. I was wondering if I could get your advice on
> what in your
> experience would be a more suitable solution. I
> would also appreciate
> any hardware/software recommendations you might
> have. I have not been
> very connected to developments in assistive
> technology and my tendency
> in recent research has been to favor options
> stressing portability and
> speed like ABISee's Zoom-Ex camera-driven OCR; are
> such solutions
> viable? Right now I use, JAWS in conjunction with
> electronic textbooks
> and handouts, a CCTV and help from readers.
> I'm sorry for ranging so widely and probably
> covering nothing that
> hasn't been hashed out before, but I would be
> grateful for any help
> you could offer.
> 
> Thank you again,
> Aser
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:43:43 EST
> From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessing Documents in an
> Office Setting
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi Aser,
>  
> I worked for the local prosecutor's office for
> several years during law  
> school.  I occasionally used a live reader, but that
> was rare and only when  I 
> needed a form filled out really quickly.  I relied
> on tools like the KNFB  
> Reader, which takes a picture of a page and converts
> it to audio text (with ear  
> buds of course so no one else heard what I was
> reading).  I also used a  laptop 
> with Jaws and scanning software so I could fill out
> forms that were  available 
> electronically or read longer motions and breifs.  I
> also used  two 
> magnification devices, the PICO and the Traveller. 
> The Pico is  palm-sized and works 
> like a portable CCTV.  It magnifies up to eight
> times  the standard print size, 
> I think.  It was really useful when looking at 
> misdemeanor complaints, rap 
> sheets, police reports, etc.  But it doesn't  work
> well when you need to write 
> under it.  For those situations, I used  the
> Traveller.  It is also like a 
> portable CCTV, though a little  bigger.  I think the
> screen size is something like 
> 6 x 6.  It has a  camera that can swing out and a
> sort of stand you can pull 
> out to raise it high  enough to put a pen underneath
> it.  I also found the 
> Traveller useful when  I was studying on the train
> for the Bar Exam because it 
> was much more durable  than the PICO.  The PICO
> costs around $700, and the 
> Traveller costs around  $900.  I got Rehab to pay
> for one, and I used scholarship 
> money for the  other.  The KNFB Reader runs more
> expensive, but I'm not sure 
> what the  going rate is anymore.  Any or all of
> these might be useful to you.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Ronza
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/17/2007 12:40:09 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,  
> agtolentino at gmail.com writes:
> 
> Hello,
> I was wondering if I could ask for guidance. I'm a
> 1L with  very
> limited vision. I have pretty much decided that
> criminal  prosecution
> is my calling. The problem as I see it is a very
> large volume  of paper
> material requiring rapid attention; I think I can
> look forward  to
> prepping a lot of misdemeanor cases. Judging from my
> skimming of  the
> list archives, it seems the standard solution has
> become scanners  and
> OCR; the deputy DA I addressed my concerns to,
> remarked that  their
> office had employed a reader as a reasonable
> accommodation in  the
> past. I was wondering if I could get your advice on
> what in  your
> experience would be a more suitable solution. I
> would also  appreciate
> any hardware/software recommendations you might
> have. I have not  been
> very connected to developments in assistive
> technology and my  tendency
> in recent research has been to favor options
> stressing portability  and
> speed like ABISee's Zoom-Ex camera-driven OCR; are
> such  solutions
> viable? Right now I use, JAWS in conjunction with
> electronic  textbooks
> and handouts, a CCTV and help from readers.
> I'm sorry for  ranging so widely and probably
> covering nothing that
> hasn't been hashed out  before, but I would be
> grateful for any help
> you could offer.
> 
> Thank  you  again,
> Aser
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> Hi Aser,
>  
> I worked for the local prosecutor's office for
> several years during law school.  I occasionally
> used a live reader, but that was rare and only when
> I needed a form filled out really quickly.  I relied
> on tools like the KNFB Reader, which takes a picture
> of a page and converts it to audio text (with ear
> buds of course so no one else heard what I was
> reading).  I also used a laptop with Jaws and
> scanning software so I could fill out forms that
> were available electronically or read longer motions
> and breifs.  I also used two magnification devices,
> the PICO and the Traveller.  The Pico is palm-sized
> and works like a portable CCTV.  It magnifies up to
> eight times the standard print size, I think.  It
> was really useful when looking at misdemeanor
> complaints, rap sheets, police reports, etc.  But it
> doesn't work well when you need to write under it. 
> For those situations, I used the Traveller.  It is
> also like a portable CCTV, though a little bigger. 
> I think the screen size is som!
> ething like 6 x 6.  It has a camera that can swing
> out and a sort of stand you can pull out to raise it
> high enough to put a pen underneath it.  I also
> found the Traveller useful when I was studying on
> the train for the Bar Exam because it was much more
> durable than the PICO.  The PICO costs around $700,
> and the Traveller costs around $900.  I got Rehab to
> pay for one, and I used scholarship money for the
> other.  The KNFB Reader runs more expensive, but I'm
> not sure what the going rate is anymore.  Any or all
> of these might be useful to you.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Ronza
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/17/2007 12:40:09 P.M. Central
> Standard Time, agtolentino at gmail.com writes:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if I could ask for guidance. I'm a
> 1L with very
> limited vision. I have pretty much decided that
> criminal prosecution
> is my calling. The problem as I see it is a very
> large volume of paper
> material requiring rapid attention; I think I can
> look forward to
> prepping a lot of misdemeanor cases. Judging from my
> skimming of the
> list archives, it seems the standard solution has
> become scanners and
> OCR; the deputy DA I addressed my concerns to,
> remarked that their
> office had employed a reader as a reasonable
> accommodation in the
> past. I was wondering if I could get your advice on
> what in your
> experience would be a more suitable solution. I
> would also appreciate
> any hardware/software recommendations you might
> have. I have not been
> very connected to developments in assistive
> technology and my tendency
> in recent research has been to favor options
> stressing portability and
> speed like ABISee's Zoom-Ex camera-driven OCR; are
> such solutions
> viable? Right now I use, JAWS in conjunction with
> electronic textbooks
> and handouts, a CCTV and help from readers.
> I'm sorry for ranging so widely and probably
> covering nothing that
> hasn't been hashed out before, but I would be
> grateful for any help
> you could offer.
> Thank you again,
> Aser
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