[blindlaw] Employment of Disabled Lawyers, Texas Bar Presentation
Kathleen Hagen
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Wed Jan 3 17:23:53 CST 2007
A very good and very telling article!
In 1999, the Minnesota Hennepin County Bar formed a taskforce and
interviewed attorneys with disabilities. (They were informally found and
most of them wouldn't agree to be interviewed even when their comments would
be annonymously included in the report. I was on that taskforce. We
finally put out a report. This was just one of several reports done in
Minnesota: women hitting the glass ceiling, attorneys of color not finding
jobs, gay attorneys not being able to come out at work, etc. We didn't have
any good statistics about anything. One thing we did notice though was
that, while attorneys who were disabled when applying for jobs were less
likely to get hired, if they were hired they were accommodated. People knew
from the outset what they wanted or needed to do the job. Attorneys who had
invisible disabilities and didn't disclose them, or attorneys who became
disabled later, had a much tougher time getting accommodated. I think all
the attorneys we interviewed worked for the public sector, including me.
In 2006, the Minnesota State Bar Assoc.'s Diversity Taskforce decided to do
a more thorough survey. This time, they put out a notice in every bar
publication of any county, etc. They set up focus groups for the various
diversities. I attended the one on disabilities, and again no one was there
from a private firm.
This study also included a survey sent to law firms and agencies all over
the state asking them to identify whether they had women attorneys,
attorneys of color, gay-lesbian attorneys, and, as of 2000-2006, attorneys
with disabilities. I don't remember any disclosed attorneys for firms, and
the final percentage over-all of attorneys with disabilities working in
Minnesota was less than one percent! So, yeah, I agree. We still have
problems finding jobs. But now that people are starting to talk about it at
various bar conventions, for example, maybe things will change.
For myself, I've made the decision I wouldn't even want to work for a firm.
The kind of selling your soul to the firm, and living in a very restricted
way not showing differences from anyone else, and the hierarchy of persons
you are expected to lunch with, is to my mind entirely stultifying. At a
Minnesota Women Lawyers meeting once, a female attorney from a prestigious
firm got up and told us that as women attorneys, even if we were not invited
to eat with our male counterparts, we must under no circumstances eat with
the paralegals or the clerical staff. We would lose status if we did.
Well, I just can't live that way.
Kathy Hagen
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Subject: [blindlaw] Employment of Disabled Lawyers, Texas Bar Presentation
An article on an address given by a blind Texas lawyer to his state bar
convention. The address was on the status of employment of disabled
lawyers.
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Reasonable Accommodations
Brenda Sapino Jeffreys
Texas Lawyer
01-01-2007
It's been nearly 16 years since the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
went into effect. Lawyers with disabilities say it's still tough to get big
firm jobs, despite the ADA and despite advances in technology that help
lawyers with disabilities handle legal work.
"Most attorneys who are blind or visually impaired work for the government
or work in solo practice," says Chris D. Prentice, a solo practitioner in
Plainview
who is legally blind. "Very few law firms even give a second look to
attorneys with disabilities, especially those with visual impairment."
Prentice says that with the aid of technology he can find a way to do
virtually anything a lawyer without limited vision can do. For instance, he
has adaptive
software on his computer, including a program that reads him what's on the
screen and another that magnifies documents to a size he can read. For
documents
such as letters from other lawyers, Prentice says he uses a closed-circuit
television system that provides better contrast - and therefore readability
- on the documents. To examine written evidence in court, he brings along a
portable television system to magnify the documents.
But Prentice, who worked in government jobs prior to a six-year stint as
county attorney in Hale County, says that even with years of experience,
he's
had trouble landing a firm job.
"I've been practicing law for almost 19 years. People who know me and have
dealt with me in the courtroom, I suppose they respect me, but I've never
had
anybody come to me and say, "Hey, come work for us.'"
Prentice, who was only 18 months old when a virus damaged the optic nerves
in his eyes, says he would like to leave solo practice and work at a firm
for
financial reasons. He is married with a 15-year-old son.
Prentice's experience isn't unusual, according to several lawyers with
disabilities or those who deal with disability issues. Because of that, the
State
Bar of Texas' Disability Issues Committee conducted a continuing legal
education seminar Dec. 5 about the issues surrounding the employment of
lawyers
with disabilities.
Mitchell Katine, chairman of the committee, says he organized the Employment
of Attorneys with Disabilities seminar to get people talking about the issue
and to help educate Texas firms about the law so they are more willing to
hire lawyers with disabilities. It is timely, Katine says, because the U.S.
Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission issued a fact sheet in May detailing
reasonable accommodations employers must provide, under the ADA, to lawyers
who
work for them.
"I don't think we have made much progress in that area, and I think it's
acceptable at most places to have the presumption that if a blind lawyer
knocks
on your door for a job to say, "Really, how is this going to work?' " Katine
says.
"Most firms still have those stereotypes. That's the problem. It's just
going to be a matter of time and education," says Katine, a partner in
Houston's
Williams, Birnberg & Andersen.
Under the ADA, a worker with a disability must notify his employer that he
needs a reasonable accommodation, which is any change in the work
environment
or the way the job is performed that enables the individual to have equal
employment opportunities.
A fact sheet the EEOC issued in May includes several examples of the kinds
of accommodation a lawyer with a disability might request, such as
voice-recognition
software, which would make it easier for a lawyer with cerebral palsy to use
a computer keyboard; a secretary to transcribe tapes for a learning-disabled
lawyer who finds it easier to dictate documents than type them himself; or a
portable-assisted-listening device for a lawyer with deteriorating hearing.
But the ADA requires the lawyer to make the request for accommodation in a
timely manner - not after negative job reviews.
Sharon Rennert, a senior attorney adviser in the EEOC's ADA division in
Washington, D.C., says the fact sheet contains bedrock ADA principles as
they pertain
to white collar legal jobs. Some of the examples included in the fact sheet
are based on real-life experiences of disabled lawyers and others are made
up to illustrate a provision of the law, she says.
Managing partners at a few large Texas firms say they do employ lawyers with
disabilities, but the numbers apparently aren't large. It's difficult to be
precise, because several panelists at the State Bar seminar on Dec. 5 say
they cannot find any statistics identifying where disabled lawyers work in
Texas
- or even the number of disabled lawyers in Texas. Pat Pound, executive
director of the Texas Governor's Committee on People with Disabilities, says
the
committee has no statistics on lawyers with disabilities. Neither does the
State Bar, says spokeswoman Kim Davey.
Brian East, a senior attorney at Advocacy Inc. in Austin, a federally funded
agency that represents people with disabilities in various areas, says, "I
read a bunch of material in preparation for my talk. Everybody just said
there are no reliable figures."
"Some don't choose to self-identify," he says.
East says his job is assisting disabled individuals with problems with
employers, with obtaining special education benefits, with barriers in
government
offices or private business, and with obtaining Medicaid benefits for their
disability. Anecdotally, he says he can only think of a few lawyers ever
seeking
assistance from Advocacy Inc.
"I can't recall an employment case involving a law firm. I can recall cases
where we've had clients who were not given interpreters or otherwise had
access
[to] interpreting at a law office," East says. "I don't think we've had a
lawyer coming in here, asking for help with an employment issue."
Prentice says that disabled lawyers have more opportunity to land a job in
the public sector than at large Texas firms. He says it's because of a
precursor
to the ADA, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits agencies that
receive federal funding from discriminating in hiring against individuals
with
disabilities.
"We have always been a very inclusive environment, both on women, minorities
and lawyers with disabilities," says Joseph Dilg, managing partner of Vinson
& Elkins. "We don't have a special emphasis on trying to find lawyers with
disabilities, but to the extent we meet people, we try to make every
accommodation
to see [that] they utilize their talents."
Dilg says the firm has some "very successful" lawyers with disabilities. One
declined an interview request and another did not respond to an interview
request delivered through firm spokesman Darrin Schlegel.
At Houston-based Bracewell & Giuliani, the firm's disabled lawyers include
an intellectual property associate who uses a wheelchair and a partner with
hearing loss, says Jennifer Jacobs, the firm's general counsel for
professional development.
"There may be others with medical conditions but none that require
accommodation," says Jacobs, a partner in Houston.
Jacobs says the partner lost hearing while at the firm, but the associate
was using a wheelchair when a summer clerk for the firm. She says the
accommodations
provided the associate, such as a pass for close-in parking, a printer in
his office and assistance on getting files on computer equipment that he can
easily use are simple tasks for the firm.
"Technology has made it infinitely easier for all kinds of things," she
says.
But some disabilities can't be accommodated with technology or modifications
to the work environment. For instance, as the EEOC fact sheet points out,
the ADA only obligates an employer to provide an accommodation if it doesn't
create "undue hardship" for the employer, financially and operationally. The
EEOC gives the example of a city government lawyer who seeks and is granted
a modified work schedule due to a disability. However, due to that limited
work schedule, the lawyer is missing deadlines and other attorneys in the
office end up with more work. That schedule, according to the EEOC fact
sheet,
is causing an undue hardship on the office.
Jacobs finds it difficult to believe that lawyers with disabilities believe
big firms aren't willing to hire lawyers with disabilities. However, she
notes,
it really depends on the kind of disability. "You really have to look at it
on a case-by-case basis," she says.
Varying Experience
Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, who has used a wheelchair since a
jogging accident in 1984, declines comment on the issue of disabled lawyers
working
at firms. Abbott was a partner in Bracewell's Austin office after he left
the Texas Supreme Court and before he was elected AG.
Jeff Curtis is of counsel at Haynes and Boone in Richardson. He was
diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1997 and says the firm has been
"awesome." He
says lawyers in management at the firm have asked him on more than one
occasion if there's anything he needs to make it easier for him to do his
job.
Curtis, who works in the financial transactions practice group, says he
hasn't asked for any formal accommodations under the ADA, but he has been
using
a lightweight motorized wheelchair to get around the office since he moved
from the Dallas office to the Richardson office about a year and a half ago.
Curtis says he relies on the wheelchair, because he cannot walk long
distances or stand on his feet for a long time.
Curtis says he has no trouble doing his job, because travel is a rarity, and
he can usually work around that by using technology such as
videoconferencing.
Curtis says he's keeping a positive attitude, and not thinking about any
other accommodations he might need if his condition worsens.
Curtis didn't face the hiring issue, because he had been working at Haynes
and Boone for 10 years before his diagnosis. He left the firm in 1998 to
take
a job as general counsel at On-Target Supplies & Logistics in Dallas, but he
returned to the firm in late 1999 because he missed the pure practice of
law.
Curtis says the firm welcomed him back, even though he was then using a cane
for walking. He says he disclosed his illness to the firm shortly after his
diagnosis in 1997, so it was not an issue when he sought to return.
Curtis says Haynes and Boone has been nothing but accommodating to his
disability, but he notes that some attorneys with disabilities may not seek
out
firm jobs because they can be so demanding.
Getting hired is the hurdle, says Wendy Wilkinson, a lawyer who is project
director for the Disability Law Resource Center at the Southwest Disability
and Business Technical Assistance Center in Houston.
Wilkinson, a quadriplegic who uses a wheelchair, spoke at the seminar about
several uncomfortable job interviews after law school, including the time
her
wheelchair got caught in an Oriental rug in a lawyer's office and another
time when a table full of attorneys greeted her with a
deer-caught-in-the-headlights
look when she wheeled into the interview room.
She also said she lost out on jobs at firms that she declines to identify
because of issues the firm raised, such as her inability to climb stairs or
reach
books on the top shelves in a library. She says she did clerk at a couple
firms and at the Florida Supreme Court while at Florida State University
College
of Law.
But landing a firm job after graduation was another matter, Wilkinson said
in a telephone interview after the seminar. "I had lots of interviews, but
when
I showed up, that's really where I encountered the barrier," she says.
As Prentice related at the seminar, his first job after graduating from
Texas Tech University School of Law in 1986 was as an assistant municipal
court
prosecutor for the city of Lubbock. After his prosecutor job, Prentice says
he worked for Advocacy Inc. and was county attorney in Hale County for six
years, until he lost a reelection bid in 2004. He says his disability was
not an issue in the election.
After he lost the election, though, he started sending out rÈsumÈs but is
discouraged that he's been offered only a handful of interviews for jobs at
firms
or elsewhere.
Since he left office, he's had a general practice in Plainview.
"How long do you have to prove yourself?" Prentice says.
"It's 16 years after the passage of the ADA. Shouldn't we have something
appropriate to show that it's doing something good?" he asks.
Lacey Gorley, a partner in Bracewell in Austin who defends EEOC litigation,
said during the seminar that misconceptions about disabled lawyers create
barriers
to job opportunities at firms. She rattled off a list of misconceptions:
Clients won't have confidence in a disabled lawyer. The ADA doesn't apply to
firms.
All lawyers working at a firm must be able to handle a court hearing at a
moment's notice. It's impossible to fire a disabled lawyer.
Gorley says all of those beliefs are false. She says that just as firms hire
female and minority lawyers, firms should also be willing to hire disabled
lawyers.
"In medium-to-large firms, you do not see disabled individuals applying very
frequently. They are not applying, I believe, because it would be futile,"
Gorley said at the Dec. 5 seminar.
Gorley also noted that many disabled lawyers who work at firms don't want to
be identified as such, and some even fail to ask for accommodations.
"They don't want the stigma that's going to come with that. They don't want
the consequence of that. That's going back to the culture of the firm. If
you
identify yourself as different, as having a different need, is that going to
have a negative connotation?" Gorley said.
Joe Bontke, an ombudsman at the EEOC office in Houston, says he believes
lawyers with disabilities currently have greater opportunity in the public
sector
simply because he's not seeing many working at firms. Bontke says firm
leaders might change their attitude once they learn that it's usually
inexpensive
to provide accommodations for lawyers with disabilities.
Bontke says he only gets about a call a month from an attorney or a law
student about a disability issue.
Michelle Hoogendam Cash, a legal recruiter in Houston and former employment
lawyer at Bracewell, says she can't recall an instance where a lawyer with
a disability as defined by the ADA came to her for assistance with finding a
job. Neither does recruiter Elaine Makris Williams of MS Legal Search in
Houston.
Lee Albritton of Amicus Search Group in Austin says he can "count on one
hand" the number of disabled job candidates whom he's talked to in nine
years
as a recruiter.
Cash, president of Pemberton Legal Search Corp., says, "It is just a matter
of there aren't going to be that many lawyers who actually have apparent
disability."
She adds, "What I generally see as a more common situation is a lawyer who
doesn't have a disability, but may have a temporary situation, usually a
pregnancy."
Cash, who is certified in employment law by the Texas Board of Legal
Specialization and knows the ADA, says accommodation for a disability is
much more
likely to come up in the accommodation context than at the time of hiring.
Albritton says he did place a visually impaired lawyer at a litigation firm
in Houston - he says she has since moved to California - and arranged some
interviews for a military veteran with a physical disability from a
battlefield injury, but Albritton says it's probably true that lawyers with
disabilities
may have difficulty in getting hired by firms.
"I think it totally depends on the nature of the disability," he says. "If
somebody has a non-obvious disability, for example an immune disorder or a
blood
disability, I don't see that as much of an impediment as an outwardly
visible disability."
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