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Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net
Tue Sep 19 13:42:47 CDT 2006


No; *I* am funny. everyone else is just copying me.  It's true.  Anything 
humorous that is ever said on this list... but this is getting off topic and 
I"m probably about to get bopped onna nose by a moderator or something. 
I'll stop right now, with only this shameless advertising of my own website:
http://www.panix.com/~mbaxter
Now that's funny.
I'm done.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Akinola" <elizabetha at ecnv.org>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe


>O gosh, you guys are so funny!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe
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>
>> ... duct tape.
>> It's a short-term affair.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Elizabeth Akinola" <elizabetha at ecnv.org>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe
>>
>>
>>> And since I don't want to get fired for laughing out loud  at work,
>>> what's
>>> the ritual for reading these postings and keep mum?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe
>>>
>>>
>>>> standing on one's left foot during the above procedure will cause total
>>>> annihilation of all matter within 0.7 light years of the unit; for this
>>>> reason, it is recommended, even with proper assembly and regular
>>>> cleaning
>>>> of
>>>> the unit and its attached components, that the left foot be removed
>>>> during
>>>> operation to ensure safe and satisfactory results.  Placing the left
>>>> foot
>>>> in
>>>> a bell jar and ringing it soundly may, but is not proven to, increase
>>>> the
>>>> performance of the unit.  Caution:  Removal of the left foot has, in
>>>> rare
>>>> cases, caused certain undesired side effects.  If you experience 
>>>> extreme
>>>> blood loss, impotency or death, you should contact your paranormal
>>>> advisor
>>>> immediately, unless of course it's on Friday the thirteenth, in which
>>>> case,
>>>> see the instructions for inscription of the proper demonic rituals. ...
>>>> I
>>>> could go on like this for hours.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Ashley, Kathy J" <Kathy.Ashley at fssa.in.gov>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Should I stand on my left foot while doing this?  Too funny.
>>>>>
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Dan Matzkin
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11 PM
>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe
>>>>>
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>>>>> Hope that helps!
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>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just for the record, you can unsubscribe at
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>>>>>> supplying your list password.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll unsubscribe you but will not be able to do it immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:44:10 +0000, braem at comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please unsubscribe me immediately.  I couldn't find a link to do 
>>>>>>>this.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Michael Braem
>>>>>>>braem at comcast.net
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
>>>>>>>From: "Elizabeth Akinola" <elizabetha at ecnv.org>
>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:43:14 +0000
>>>>>>>> As Craig pointed, this issue cannot be covered under Title I of the
>>>>> ADA
>>>>>>>> since the question is about clients not employees.  If it falls
>>>>>>>> anywhere,
>>>>>>>> it'd be under Title III--public accommodations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like hospitals and shopping centers, a lawyer's office offers
>>>>> services
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the general public, and is therefore  a place of public
>>>>> accommodation.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Mazen Basrawi" <mbasrawi at exchange.dralegal.org>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:12 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Actually, this issue is covered under Title I of the ADA covering
>>>>>>>> > employment, not Title III which covers public accommodations.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > M~
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Mazen M. Basrawi
>>>>>>>> > Equal Justice Works/Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein Fellow
>>>>>>>> > Disability Rights Advocates
>>>>>>>> > 2001 Center Street, Third Floor
>>>>>>>> > Berkeley, California  94704-1204
>>>>>>>> > Tel: (510) 665-8644
>>>>>>>> > Fax: (510) 665-8511
>>>>>>>> > TTY: (510) 665-8716
>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> > From: braem at comcast.net [mailto:braem at comcast.net]
>>>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:12 PM
>>>>>>>> > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > All I'm trying to find are cases - federal or state - to use as
>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>> > about whether a complaint has ever been filed against a law firm
>>>>> by a
>>>>>>>> > blind client.  One hypo could be this:  blind client needs a
>>>>> contract
>>>>>>>> > drafted.  Law firm does  not have any reader equipment or way to
>>>>>>>> convert
>>>>>>>> > the docs to braille, nor does it feel the need to accommodate the
>>>>>>>> client
>>>>>>>> > by providing a an actual reader, etc. etc.  I know that a law 
>>>>>>>> > firm
>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> > office is considered a "public accommodation" under the ADA, so I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> > think the attorney/law firm would have to accommodate the client
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> > way or another.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > That's all I'm looking for, don't know how I can make it simpler
>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> > that.  I suppose the applicable law should be the ADA.  And I'm
>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>> > trying to gather information for an article I'm drafting for a
>>>>> local
>>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>> > association (I am a licensed and practicing attorney).
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If you have any cases, settlement agreements, or law articles
>>>>>>>> revolving
>>>>>>>> > around this subject matter, please let me know at
>>>>> braem at comcast.net.
>>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Michael
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > -------------- Original message --------------
>>>>>>>> > From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>> >> I am still trying to understand the issue at hand. Specifically
>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> >> accommodation is needed and not provided? Secondly, what statute
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> think imposed a duty on the law firm to provide the particular
>>>>>>>> > accommodation
>>>>>>>> >> requested? I am not saying there isn't such a statute, I simply
>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>> >> know if it is the ADA or some other state statute. Also, it 
>>>>>>>> >> would
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> >> helpful if posters would sign their emails. I think that 2
>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>> > posts on
>>>>>>>> >> this topic were from the same person, but from two different
>>>>> email
>>>>>>>> >> addresses. With respect to the first post on the topic, is this
>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> > attorney
>>>>>>>> >> requesting assistance from other attorneys, or is it a non
>>>>> attorney
>>>>>>>> > trying
>>>>>>>> >> to obtain legal guidance? Either is fine, but it helps to
>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>> >> poster's position in order to properly address the question.
>>>>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>>>>> >> Dennis
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> >> From: "Locke Milholland"
>>>>>>>> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:29 PM
>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >I would look for an ethics opinion under the rule providing 
>>>>>>>> >> >that
>>>>>>>> >> >attorneys
>>>>>>>> >> > maintain communications with clients.Outside the professional
>>>>>>>> > setting, the
>>>>>>>> >> > legal theory would fall under the same legal actions such as
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> > claim
>>>>>>>> >> > against Target for failing to provide accessible website
>>>>>>>> > information.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >> Can you tell us more about the accommodations that were
>>>>> needed?
>>>>>>>> >> >> Also,
>>>>>>>> >> >> what
>>>>>>>> >> >> is the legal theory that would give the law firm this duty?
>>>>>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> >> >>>(Original question). I'm looking for any cases/news articles
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> >> >>>which an
>>>>>>>> >> >>>attorney or law
>>>>>>>> >> >>>firm was sued by a client or potential client who was blind,
>>>>>>>> > because the
>>>>>>>> >> >>>firm failed to accommodate the client. Please let me know of
>>>>>>>> > anything by
>>>>>>>> >> >>>e-mailing me at...
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Michael
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
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