[blindlaw] Unsubscribe

Tue Sep 19 08:04:49 CDT 2006

Oh, you call that simplified?  It's as simplified as that joke about the AFA 
guidelines  where this one guy stops for breakfast  and by the time he was 
done reading the menu and seeing the pros and cons of eating  each food item 
he had lost his apetite!

I'm glad it's so easy to unsubscribe, and more so that we have such a 
wonderful listserve  to be subscribe to!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe

> You should have seen it before we simplified it.
>
> David Andrews, List Owner
> At 04:31 PM 9/18/2006, you wrote:
>>If I was considering unsubscribing,  the process of doing so will make me
>>change my mind at once and just stay subscribed!
>>
>>This is so very funny.
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Dan Matzkin" <dmatzkin at wesleyan.edu>
>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:10 PM
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Unsubscribe
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>>>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:44:10 +0000, braem at comcast.net wrote:
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>>>>>Please unsubscribe me immediately.  I couldn't find a link to do this.
>>>>> Thanks.
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>>>>>-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
>>>>>From: "Elizabeth Akinola" <elizabetha at ecnv.org>
>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:43:14 +0000
>>>>>> As Craig pointed, this issue cannot be covered under Title I of the 
>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>> since the question is about clients not employees.  If it falls
>>>>>> anywhere,
>>>>>> it'd be under Title III--public accommodations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like hospitals and shopping centers, a lawyer's office offers 
>>>>>> services
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the general public, and is therefore  a place of public 
>>>>>> accommodation.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mazen Basrawi" <mbasrawi at exchange.dralegal.org>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Actually, this issue is covered under Title I of the ADA covering
>>>>>> > employment, not Title III which covers public accommodations.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > M~
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mazen M. Basrawi
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>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> > From: braem at comcast.net [mailto:braem at comcast.net]
>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:12 PM
>>>>>> > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > All I'm trying to find are cases - federal or state - to use as
>>>>>> examples
>>>>>> > about whether a complaint has ever been filed against a law firm by 
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > blind client.  One hypo could be this:  blind client needs a 
>>>>>> > contract
>>>>>> > drafted.  Law firm does  not have any reader equipment or way to
>>>>>> convert
>>>>>> > the docs to braille, nor does it feel the need to accommodate the
>>>>>> client
>>>>>> > by providing a an actual reader, etc. etc.  I know that a law firm 
>>>>>> > or
>>>>>> > office is considered a "public accommodation" under the ADA, so I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> > think the attorney/law firm would have to accommodate the client in
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> > way or another.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That's all I'm looking for, don't know how I can make it simpler 
>>>>>> > than
>>>>>> > that.  I suppose the applicable law should be the ADA.  And I'm
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>> > trying to gather information for an article I'm drafting for a 
>>>>>> > local
>>>>>> bar
>>>>>> > association (I am a licensed and practicing attorney).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If you have any cases, settlement agreements, or law articles
>>>>>> revolving
>>>>>> > around this subject matter, please let me know at 
>>>>>> > braem at comcast.net.
>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Michael
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -------------- Original message --------------
>>>>>> > From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>> >> I am still trying to understand the issue at hand. Specifically 
>>>>>> >> what
>>>>>> >> accommodation is needed and not provided? Secondly, what statute 
>>>>>> >> do
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> think imposed a duty on the law firm to provide the particular
>>>>>> > accommodation
>>>>>> >> requested? I am not saying there isn't such a statute, I simply 
>>>>>> >> need
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> >> know if it is the ADA or some other state statute. Also, it would 
>>>>>> >> be
>>>>>> >> helpful if posters would sign their emails. I think that 2 earlier
>>>>>> > posts on
>>>>>> >> this topic were from the same person, but from two different email
>>>>>> >> addresses. With respect to the first post on the topic, is this an
>>>>>> > attorney
>>>>>> >> requesting assistance from other attorneys, or is it a non 
>>>>>> >> attorney
>>>>>> > trying
>>>>>> >> to obtain legal guidance? Either is fine, but it helps to 
>>>>>> >> understand
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> >> poster's position in order to properly address the question.
>>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>>> >> Dennis
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> From: "Locke Milholland"
>>>>>> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:29 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Please Assist ASAP
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >I would look for an ethics opinion under the rule providing that
>>>>>> >> >attorneys
>>>>>> >> > maintain communications with clients.Outside the professional
>>>>>> > setting, the
>>>>>> >> > legal theory would fall under the same legal actions such as the
>>>>>> > claim
>>>>>> >> > against Target for failing to provide accessible website
>>>>>> > information.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Can you tell us more about the accommodations that were needed?
>>>>>> >> >> Also,
>>>>>> >> >> what
>>>>>> >> >> is the legal theory that would give the law firm this duty?
>>>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >> >>>(Original question). I'm looking for any cases/news articles in
>>>>>> >> >>>which an
>>>>>> >> >>>attorney or law
>>>>>> >> >>>firm was sued by a client or potential client who was blind,
>>>>>> > because the
>>>>>> >> >>>firm failed to accommodate the client. Please let me know of
>>>>>> > anything by
>>>>>> >> >>>e-mailing me at...
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Michael
>>>>>> >> >
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