[blindlaw] what specialty?

Thu Oct 5 14:03:36 CDT 2006

Dear Lorraine,
  In truth, I am far from certain whether I should specialize at all.

  Many lawyers here (solicitors) don't, though some solicitors have special interests also. Rather, they prepare cases for court, draft wills, do conveyencing etc.

  Barristers, think of them as trial lawyers, on the other hand, do specialize but do so only when they have a practice built up. 
  I should say that while solicitors may and do have partnerships, barristers are required by law to work as sole practitioners, to preserve the Bar's independence.

  It will be several years from qualification before any lawyer, of either branch gets to specialize in a chosen field. It is likely to be several decades before even the best lawyer will be elevated to the bench.

  In all honesty, I would be hard pressed to pick a spesific specialty as my "thing", not because of blindness but because I find a broad range of legal problems extremely interesting. I also take the view that to specialize too early would be unwise, as i'm sure you'll agree.

  However, since you asked directly, I have most interest in Administrative law, judicial review and ultra vires, evidence, EU law and Irish Constitutional law.

  kind Regards Ger

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:56:42 -0700
From: "Noel Nightingale" 
Subject: [blindlaw] Deputy General Counsel in L.A., San Francisco, or
Seattle, for Immigration
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>From www.usajobs.gov

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Department: Department Of Homeland Security

Agency: Citizenship and Immigration Services

Job Announcement Number:
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Additional Duty Location Info: 1 vacancy - Seattle, WA 1 vacancy - Los
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The Deputy Regional Counsel will directly oversee and supervise the
performance of the eight (8) Associate Regional Counsel located
throughout the Western
Region. In addition to these management duties, responsibilities
include, but are not limited to, serving as one of the attorneys
providing on-site legal
advice to either the Seattle District Office, San Francisco District
Office or Los Angeles District Office of USCIS personnel on issues
involving immigration
related adjudications, inadmissibility and deportability grounds, and
national security. The incumbent will also be responsible for providing
litigation
support to U.S. Attorneys' Offices on cases arising from either the
Seattle District, San Franciso District or Los Angeles District
adjudications. The
incumbent will also be assigned to provide litigation advice and
litigation support on cases and issues arising out of other USCIS
Districts within the
Western Region as needed. The Deputy Regional Counsel will be
supervised by the Western Regional Counsel and the Deputy Chief Counsel.

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 19:47:57 +0100 (BST)
From: ger sadlier 
Subject: [blindlaw] Re "What job can a blinb lawyer do?"
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <20061004184757.97163.qmail at web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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Dear Lorraine,
Before making a couple of points regarding your most informative e-mail, let me say that I found it most informative and some what helpful.

Nevertheless, I must respectfully suggest that in writing your e-mail you have misunderstood the questions I asked. (Perhaps they read differently over there?) in particular, I feel that I was trying to do exactly what you suggested in your email, already. Was that not what those questions were about? e.g. finding blind persons with rellevent experience, from whom further explanations etc. could be gleaned?

By the way, If you are suggesting that talking to people would be better than e-mailing them, this is perhaps true and I am already doing just that with a couple of people here. However, given the distance etc. involved, e-mail seems an easier and simpler form of communicating with people in the U.S.
Ger

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Dear Lorraine,
?Before making a couple of points regarding your most informative e-mail, let me say that I found it most informative and some what helpful.
?
Nevertheless, I must respectfully suggest that in writing your e-mail you have misunderstood the questions I asked. (Perhaps they read differently over there?) in particular, I feel that I was trying to do exactly what you suggested in your email, already. Was that not what those questions were about? e.g. finding blind persons with rellevent experience, from whom further explanations etc. could be gleaned?
?
By the way, If you are suggesting that talking to people would be better than e-mailing them, this is perhaps true and I am already doing just that with a couple of people here. However, given the distance etc. involved, e-mail seems an easier and simpler form of communicating with people in the U.S.
Ger
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:06:22 -0400
From: "Rovig, Lorraine" 
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Re "What job can a blind lawyer do?"
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear Ger,

I know the legal eagles on our listserv will be happy to correspond with
you. The problem is, to our way of thinking, you are still asking your
question in the wrong direction. Please tell folks on the list which
specialties interest you. Are you interested in becoming a tax attorney
in a large firm; Equal Employment Opportunity lawyer [EEO laws]; judge;
commercial property lawyer; copyright law specialist; assistant District
Attorney for a city; civil rights attorney; social security law
specialist; or environmental lawyer; or do you wish to work in some
other specialty? Please do not restrict yourself to this tiny list of
specialties, but please confess which specialty or specialties you most
want to do as for your employment. If you were not blind, which
specialty most interests you?

Cordially,
Lorraine Rovig

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of ger sadlier
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:48 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Re "What job can a blinb lawyer do?"

Dear Lorraine,
Before making a couple of points regarding your most informative
e-mail, let me say that I found it most informative and some what
helpful.

Nevertheless, I must respectfully suggest that in writing your e-mail
you have misunderstood the questions I asked. (Perhaps they read
differently over there?) in particular, I feel that I was trying to do
exactly what you suggested in your email, already. Was that not what
those questions were about? e.g. finding blind persons with rellevent
experience, from whom further explanations etc. could be gleaned?

By the way, If you are suggesting that talking to people would be
better than e-mailing them, this is perhaps true and I am already doing
just that with a couple of people here. However, given the distance etc.
involved, e-mail seems an easier and simpler form of communicating with
people in the U.S.
Ger

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Dear Lorraine,
In truth, I am far from certain whether I should specialize at all.

Many lawyers here (solicitors) don't, though some solicitors have special interests also. Rather, they prepare cases for court, draft wills, do conveyencing etc.

Barristers, think of them as trial lawyers, on the other hand, do specialize but do so only when they have a practice built up.
I should say that while solicitors may and do have partnerships, barristers are required by law to work as sole practitioners, to preserve the Bar's independence.

It will be several years from qualification before any lawyer, of either branch gets to specialize in a chosen field. It is likely to be several decades before even the best lawyer will be elevated to the bench.

In all honesty, I would be hard pressed to pick a spesific specialty as my "thing", not because of blindness but because I find a broad range of legal problems extremely interesting. I also take the view that to specialize too early would be unwise, as i'm sure you'll agree.

However, since you asked directly, I have most interest in Administrative law, judicial review and ultra vires, evidence, EU law and Irish Constitutional law.

kind Regards Ger
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Today's Topics:
1. Deputy General Counsel in L.A., San Francisco, or Seattle,
for Immigration (Noel Nightingale)
2. Re "What job can a blinb lawyer do?" (ger sadlier)
3. Re: Re "What job can a blind lawyer do?" (Rovig, Lorraine)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:56:42 -0700
From: "Noel Nightingale"
Subject: [blindlaw] Deputy General Counsel in L.A., San Francisco, or
Seattle, for Immigration
To:
Message-ID: <000101c6e7de$7763e830$e6322918 at userlpz6ijp9bq>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>From www.usajobs.gov
Citizenship and Immigration Services
Department: Department Of Homeland Security
Agency: Citizenship and Immigration Services
Job Announcement Number:
CIS-COU-2006-0013
Overview
Duties
Qualifications and Evaluation
Benefits and other Information
How to Apply
Back to Search Results
Experienced Attorney
Additional Duty Location Info: 1 vacancy - Seattle, WA 1 vacancy - Los
Angeles County, CA 1 vacancy - San Francisco County, CA
MAJOR DUTIES:
Top
usajobs/toparrow
The Deputy Regional Counsel will directly oversee and supervise the
performance of the eight (8) Associate Regional Counsel located
throughout the Western
Region. In addition to these management duties, responsibilities
include, but are not limited to, serving as one of the attorneys
providing on-site legal
advice to either the Seattle District Office, San Francisco District
Office or Los Angeles District Office of USCIS personnel on issues
involving immigration
related adjudications, inadmissibility and deportability grounds, and
national security. The incumbent will also be responsible for providing
litigation
support to U.S. Attorneys' Offices on cases arising from either the
Seattle District, San Franciso District or Los Angeles District
adjudications. The
incumbent will also be assigned to provide litigation advice and
litigation support on cases and issues arising out of other USCIS
Districts within the
Western Region as needed. The Deputy Regional Counsel will be
supervised by the Western Regional Counsel and the Deputy Chief Counsel.
Back to Search Results
Apply Online
Print Preview
Email A Friend
Send Mail
Send Mail to:
Department of Homeland Security
606 South Olive Street
Suite 800
Los Angeles, CA 90014
US
Questions
For questions about this job:
J. Stephen Butcher
Phone: 213-894-0161
Email: James.Butcher at dhs.gov
USAJOBS Control Number: 751005
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 19:47:57 +0100 (BST)
From: ger sadlier
Subject: [blindlaw] Re "What job can a blinb lawyer do?"
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <20061004184757.97163.qmail at web26013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Lorraine,
Before making a couple of points regarding your most informative e-mail, let me say that I found it most informative and some what helpful.
Nevertheless, I must respectfully suggest that in writing your e-mail you have misunderstood the questions I asked. (Perhaps they read differently over there?) in particular, I feel that I was trying to do exactly what you suggested in your email, already. Was that not what those questions were about? e.g. finding blind persons with rellevent experience, from whom further explanations etc. could be gleaned?
By the way, If you are suggesting that talking to people would be better than e-mailing them, this is perhaps true and I am already doing just that with a couple of people here. However, given the distance etc. involved, e-mail seems an easier and simpler form of communicating with people in the U.S.
Ger
---------------------------------
All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine
-------------- next part --------------
Dear Lorraine,
?Before making a couple of points regarding your most informative e-mail, let me say that I found it most informative and some what helpful.
?
Nevertheless, I must respectfully suggest that in writing your e-mail you have misunderstood the questions I asked. (Perhaps they read differently over there?) in particular, I feel that I was trying to do exactly what you suggested in your email, already. Was that not what those questions were about? e.g. finding blind persons with rellevent experience, from whom further explanations etc. could be gleaned?
?
By the way, If you are suggesting that talking to people would be better than e-mailing them, this is perhaps true and I am already doing just that with a couple of people here. However, given the distance etc. involved, e-mail seems an easier and simpler form of communicating with people in the U.S.
Ger
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:06:22 -0400
From: "Rovig, Lorraine"
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Re "What job can a blind lawyer do?"
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear Ger,
I know the legal eagles on our listserv will be happy to correspond with
you. The problem is, to our way of thinking, you are still asking your
question in the wrong direction. Please tell folks on the list which
specialties interest you. Are you interested in becoming a tax attorney
in a large firm; Equal Employment Opportunity lawyer [EEO laws]; judge;
commercial property lawyer; copyright law specialist; assistant District
Attorney for a city; civil rights attorney; social security law
specialist; or environmental lawyer; or do you wish to work in some
other specialty? Please do not restrict yourself to this tiny list of
specialties, but please confess which specialty or specialties you most
want to do as for your employment. If you were not blind, which
specialty most interests you?
Cordially,
Lorraine Rovig
-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of ger sadlier
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:48 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Re "What job can a blinb lawyer do?"
Dear Lorraine,
Before making a couple of points regarding your most informative
e-mail, let me say that I found it most informative and some what
helpful.
Nevertheless, I must respectfully suggest that in writing your e-mail
you have misunderstood the questions I asked. (Perhaps they read
differently over there?) in particular, I feel that I was trying to do
exactly what you suggested in your email, already. Was that not what
those questions were about? e.g. finding blind persons with rellevent
experience, from whom further explanations etc. could be gleaned?
By the way, If you are suggesting that talking to people would be
better than e-mailing them, this is perhaps true and I am already doing
just that with a couple of people here. However, given the distance etc.
involved, e-mail seems an easier and simpler form of communicating with
people in the U.S.
Ger
---------------------------------
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and ease of use." - PC Magazine
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