[blindlaw] Embryos

Tue Nov 7 13:22:30 CST 2006

The problem goes like this:
  The 'parents' were a married couple who were unable to have a child, due to the man's infertility. They underwent IVF treatment and subsequently had a child, with 3 embryos frozen, for potential future use. They've now separated (N.B. they haven't divorced and cannot remarry) and the mother wants the embryos implanted. The father is objecting, saying that he doesn't want to have another child with her.

  As far as i've been able to establish, there's no US federal regulation of this point and US state courts seem to side with the objecter, either on grounds of contract, public policy (shouldn't have to become a parent if he doesn't want to) or 14th amendment values.

  What I really want is something that holds for the implantation, preferably on constitutional principles/ policy grounds.

  All the best Ger

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1. Approach to disputes involving embryo's created through IVF?
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4. Re: Approach to disputes involving embryo's created through
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From: ger sadlier 
Subject: [blindlaw] Approach to disputes involving embryo's created
through IVF?
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Can any one give me any information on the approach of us courts to disputes between the prospective parents of embryos created through in vitro fertalization on whether they should be used?
Any relevant cases from the US or beyond would be really appreciated.
kind regards Ger

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 06:09:16 -0500
From: "Rumpole" 
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
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It is also critical to note that local enforcement of voting issues lay with
the Protection and Advocacy Office located in your state. HAVA has a section
in it that specifically notes the role of P & A offices regarding HAVA.
They have attorneys who are well versed in local election laws as well as
in other avenues of voting access enforcement in your state.
This would be in addition to the HAVA complaint process (administrative
only) in your State, usually done through the Secretary of State's election
office.
I would make certain that you know the contact information for the
Protection and Advocacy office in your state - usually known as a Disability
Rights Center or Office, and deal with them one-on-one. This will have a
more immediate and local impact on any HAVA violation.
The foregoing would be in addition to letting the NFB know of a violation.

For your voice and your rights, VOTE!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Danielsen" 
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity

> Dear Fellow Federationists<
>
> In the same vein as the message below, I want to call your attention to
this
> post from Voice of the Nation's Blind, the blog of the National Federation
> of the Blind, regarding the NFB National HAVA Compliance Hotline.
>
> Election Day
>
> 11/3/2006 10:40:00 AMTuesday, November 7, a mere four days away, is
Election
> Day. As we have pointed out in the past, this election is the first since
> the nonvisual access provisions of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) took
> effect. The National Federation of the Blind was instrumental in passing
> this
> provision of the HAVA, which requires that every polling place have at
least
> one voting machine that can be used independently by the blind. Most
> jurisdictions
> now have such equipment in place. News organizations have been taking
> notice of the benefits the new equipment brings to the blind. Today, we
> found
> this article
> in the Rocky Mountain News, featuring Federationists Scott LaBarre and
Ray
> and Dianne McGeorge. Not all jurisdictions have implemented new voting
> equipment
> that is usable by the blind, and many are using such equipment for the
first
> time. Although we hope that voting will go smoothly for most blind
> Americans
> on Tuesday, some problems can be expected owing to the new technology.
The
> National Federation of the Blind wants to know if any blind voter
encounters
> a voting place that is noncompliant. If you experience problems voting on
> Election Day, please call The National Federation of the Blind HAVA
National
> Compliance Hotline at 1-877-632-1940. (A handy way to remember the
> toll-free number is that the digits 632 also spell out NFB on the
telephone
> keypad,
> and the NFB was founded in 1940). The National Federation of the Blind
will
> use the data collected to analyze how well implementation of HAVA is
going,
> and we will follow up on problems experienced by blind voters if it is
> necessary to notify election officials or file a formal complaint with the
> United
> States Department of Justice. The main purpose of the hotline is to
report
> voting problems, but if you want to tell us about a positive voting
> experience,
> you can
> email VNB
> , or drop a line to Jim McCarthy, the NFB's Director of Governmental
> Affairs, at
> jmccarthy at nfb.org
> . If you don't have Internet access, go ahead and give the hotline a
call.
> The line will be open from 7 a.m. - 10 p.m. on Election Day and during
> normal
> Federation business hours, 8 a.m. - 5 p.m., on Wednesday, November 8.
After
> the hotline closes, the best way to report problems is to email Jim
McCarthy
> or call him at 410-659-9314, extension 2207. The VNB urges all readers
who
> are eligible to vote to do so on November 7. It's important for every
> American
> to vote, and it's important for blind Americans to let election officials
> know that we appreciate the ability to vote independently and in secret.
>
> If the links in the above pasted post don't work, you can read the post
> on-line by following this URL:
> http://www.nfb.org/nfb/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=89&SnID=1263005911
>
>
> Feel free to post this message or link to the Blog post on any
> blindness-related list or group of which you are a member.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Danielsen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rumpole" 
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
>
>
> > Good morning everyone -
> >
> > I am pleased to hear how many people plan to vote using the Accessible
> > voting system in their location.
> > Like many here I will be voting using it and will have a secret ballot
for
> > the first time in over 30 years. I'm really looking forward to it.
> >
> > There are, as far as I know, at least 3 people on this list who are
> > involved
> > in the Help America Vote Act work as it applies to this election. I am
one
> > of those people.
> > I would like to ask for those on this list who vote tuesday, to please
> > either post their impressions of their voting experience here, or email
me
> > off list with their feedback.
> > Whether it is good or bad, I'd like to hear what you have to say about
it.
> > The three prime areas I'd like your views on are 1. did you have any
> > trouble getting into or out of the polling place? 2. did the voting
system
> > in your state or jurisdiction work as well as you thought it would - and
> > if
> > you have any suggestions on how to make it a bit better, please let me
> > know
> > that as well.
> > And 3. did you have any difficulty at all with a pole worker or voting
> > official?
> >
> > Some states reported that pole workers did not know that the new
> > accessible
> > voting systems are not strictly reserved for individuals with a
> > disability -
> > that anyone is welcome to use it. Many reports like that one stemmed
from
> > experiences gleemed during their primary election, and many states have
> > taken those experiences to heart and spent a great deal of time
educating
> > their election officials about not only who is welcome to use the
> > accessible
> > voting system, but what is, and is not appropriate behavior and
treatment
> > of
> > individuals with a disability.
> >
> > I do not wish to clog up the list with this request, so if you'd rather
> > post
> > to me off list, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "LockeMilholland" 
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >
> >
> >>I voted today using an automark voting system for the first time. The
> >> screen faced the wall. The system used a jaws program designed for
> >> reading
> >> ballots and allowing a five button interface to select candidates. The
> >> volume control was adjustable on the machine. Listening was
accomplished
> >> using a headset.
> >>
> >>
> >> For the first time in 13 years and the second time in my life, I voted
> >> privately.
> >>
> >> I hope to get a job with one of the people I voted for, so it is one of
> >> my
> >> most informed and important elections.
> >>
> >> Locke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "John Ramsey" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Mark,
> >>>
> >>> Yes I did have a headset and the volume control was located in the
> >>> speaker
> >>> line. Also, I was instructed to cover the touch screen so that it
could
> >>> be
> >>> viewed without my knowledge. I had a great voting experience and for
> >>> once
> >>> have found myself writing a positive review.
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
> >>
> >>
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Can any one give me any information on the approach of us courts to disputes between the prospective parents of embryos created through in vitro fertalization on whether they should be used?
Any relevant cases from the US or beyond would be really appreciated.
kind regards Ger
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 06:09:16 -0500
From: "Rumpole"
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
Message-ID: <001601c70194$01c936a0$b824fea9 at siameserules>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It is also critical to note that local enforcement of voting issues lay with
the Protection and Advocacy Office located in your state. HAVA has a section
in it that specifically notes the role of P & A offices regarding HAVA.
They have attorneys who are well versed in local election laws as well as
in other avenues of voting access enforcement in your state.
This would be in addition to the HAVA complaint process (administrative
only) in your State, usually done through the Secretary of State's election
office.
I would make certain that you know the contact information for the
Protection and Advocacy office in your state - usually known as a Disability
Rights Center or Office, and deal with them one-on-one. This will have a
more immediate and local impact on any HAVA violation.
The foregoing would be in addition to letting the NFB know of a violation.
For your voice and your rights, VOTE!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Danielsen"
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> Dear Fellow Federationists<
>
> In the same vein as the message below, I want to call your attention to
this
> post from Voice of the Nation's Blind, the blog of the National Federation
> of the Blind, regarding the NFB National HAVA Compliance Hotline.
>
> Election Day
>
> 11/3/2006 10:40:00 AMTuesday, November 7, a mere four days away, is
Election
> Day. As we have pointed out in the past, this election is the first since
> the nonvisual access provisions of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) took
> effect. The National Federation of the Blind was instrumental in passing
> this
> provision of the HAVA, which requires that every polling place have at
least
> one voting machine that can be used independently by the blind. Most
> jurisdictions
> now have such equipment in place. News organizations have been taking
> notice of the benefits the new equipment brings to the blind. Today, we
> found
> this article
> in the Rocky Mountain News, featuring Federationists Scott LaBarre and
Ray
> and Dianne McGeorge. Not all jurisdictions have implemented new voting
> equipment
> that is usable by the blind, and many are using such equipment for the
first
> time. Although we hope that voting will go smoothly for most blind
> Americans
> on Tuesday, some problems can be expected owing to the new technology.
The
> National Federation of the Blind wants to know if any blind voter
encounters
> a voting place that is noncompliant. If you experience problems voting on
> Election Day, please call The National Federation of the Blind HAVA
National
> Compliance Hotline at 1-877-632-1940. (A handy way to remember the
> toll-free number is that the digits 632 also spell out NFB on the
telephone
> keypad,
> and the NFB was founded in 1940). The National Federation of the Blind
will
> use the data collected to analyze how well implementation of HAVA is
going,
> and we will follow up on problems experienced by blind voters if it is
> necessary to notify election officials or file a formal complaint with the
> United
> States Department of Justice. The main purpose of the hotline is to
report
> voting problems, but if you want to tell us about a positive voting
> experience,
> you can
> email VNB
> , or drop a line to Jim McCarthy, the NFB's Director of Governmental
> Affairs, at
> jmccarthy at nfb.org
> . If you don't have Internet access, go ahead and give the hotline a
call.
> The line will be open from 7 a.m. - 10 p.m. on Election Day and during
> normal
> Federation business hours, 8 a.m. - 5 p.m., on Wednesday, November 8.
After
> the hotline closes, the best way to report problems is to email Jim
McCarthy
> or call him at 410-659-9314, extension 2207. The VNB urges all readers
who
> are eligible to vote to do so on November 7. It's important for every
> American
> to vote, and it's important for blind Americans to let election officials
> know that we appreciate the ability to vote independently and in secret.
>
> If the links in the above pasted post don't work, you can read the post
> on-line by following this URL:
> http://www.nfb.org/nfb/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=89&SnID=1263005911
>
>
> Feel free to post this message or link to the Blog post on any
> blindness-related list or group of which you are a member.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Danielsen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rumpole"
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
>
>
> > Good morning everyone -
> >
> > I am pleased to hear how many people plan to vote using the Accessible
> > voting system in their location.
> > Like many here I will be voting using it and will have a secret ballot
for
> > the first time in over 30 years. I'm really looking forward to it.
> >
> > There are, as far as I know, at least 3 people on this list who are
> > involved
> > in the Help America Vote Act work as it applies to this election. I am
one
> > of those people.
> > I would like to ask for those on this list who vote tuesday, to please
> > either post their impressions of their voting experience here, or email
me
> > off list with their feedback.
> > Whether it is good or bad, I'd like to hear what you have to say about
it.
> > The three prime areas I'd like your views on are 1. did you have any
> > trouble getting into or out of the polling place? 2. did the voting
system
> > in your state or jurisdiction work as well as you thought it would - and
> > if
> > you have any suggestions on how to make it a bit better, please let me
> > know
> > that as well.
> > And 3. did you have any difficulty at all with a pole worker or voting
> > official?
> >
> > Some states reported that pole workers did not know that the new
> > accessible
> > voting systems are not strictly reserved for individuals with a
> > disability -
> > that anyone is welcome to use it. Many reports like that one stemmed
from
> > experiences gleemed during their primary election, and many states have
> > taken those experiences to heart and spent a great deal of time
educating
> > their election officials about not only who is welcome to use the
> > accessible
> > voting system, but what is, and is not appropriate behavior and
treatment
> > of
> > individuals with a disability.
> >
> > I do not wish to clog up the list with this request, so if you'd rather
> > post
> > to me off list, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LockeMilholland"
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >
> >
> >>I voted today using an automark voting system for the first time. The
> >> screen faced the wall. The system used a jaws program designed for
> >> reading
> >> ballots and allowing a five button interface to select candidates. The
> >> volume control was adjustable on the machine. Listening was
accomplished
> >> using a headset.
> >>
> >>
> >> For the first time in 13 years and the second time in my life, I voted
> >> privately.
> >>
> >> I hope to get a job with one of the people I voted for, so it is one of
> >> my
> >> most informed and important elections.
> >>
> >> Locke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Ramsey"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Mark,
> >>>
> >>> Yes I did have a headset and the volume control was located in the
> >>> speaker
> >>> line. Also, I was instructed to cover the touch screen so that it
could
> >>> be
> >>> viewed without my knowledge. I had a great voting experience and for
> >>> once
> >>> have found myself writing a positive review.
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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The problem goes like this:
The 'parents' were a married couple who were unable to have a child, due to the man's infertility. They underwent IVF treatment and subsequently had a child, with 3 embryos frozen, for potential future use. They've now separated (N.B. they haven't divorced and cannot remarry) and the mother wants the embryos implanted. The father is objecting, saying that he doesn't want to have another child with her.

As far as i've been able to establish, there's no US federal regulation of this point and US state courts seem to side with the objecter, either on grounds of contract, public policy (shouldn't have to become a parent if he doesn't want to) or 14th amendment values.

What I really want is something that holds for the implantation, preferably on constitutional principles/ policy grounds.

All the best Ger
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Today's Topics:
1. Approach to disputes involving embryo's created through IVF?
(ger sadlier)
2. Tully's Coffee General Counsel (Noel Nightingale)
3. Starbucks international corporate counsel (Noel Nightingale)
4. Re: Approach to disputes involving embryo's created through
IVF? (Stephanie Ortoleva)
5. New York Times article about Target lawsuit (Noel Nightingale)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 18:32:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: ger sadlier
Subject: [blindlaw] Approach to disputes involving embryo's created
through IVF?
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <20061106183227.53943.qmail at web26015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Can any one give me any information on the approach of us courts to disputes between the prospective parents of embryos created through in vitro fertalization on whether they should be used?
Any relevant cases from the US or beyond would be really appreciated.
kind regards Ger
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1. Re: Voting Anonymity (Rumpole)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 06:09:16 -0500
From: "Rumpole"
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
Message-ID: <001601c70194$01c936a0$b824fea9 at siameserules>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It is also critical to note that local enforcement of voting issues lay with
the Protection and Advocacy Office located in your state. HAVA has a section
in it that specifically notes the role of P & A offices regarding HAVA.
They have attorneys who are well versed in local election laws as well as
in other avenues of voting access enforcement in your state.
This would be in addition to the HAVA complaint process (administrative
only) in your State, usually done through the Secretary of State's election
office.
I would make certain that you know the contact information for the
Protection and Advocacy office in your state - usually known as a Disability
Rights Center or Office, and deal with them one-on-one. This will have a
more immediate and local impact on any HAVA violation.
The foregoing would be in addition to letting the NFB know of a violation.
For your voice and your rights, VOTE!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Danielsen"
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> Dear Fellow Federationists<
>
> In the same vein as the message below, I want to call your attention to
this
> post from Voice of the Nation's Blind, the blog of the National Federation
> of the Blind, regarding the NFB National HAVA Compliance Hotline.
>
> Election Day
>
> 11/3/2006 10:40:00 AMTuesday, November 7, a mere four days away, is
Election
> Day. As we have pointed out in the past, this election is the first since
> the nonvisual access provisions of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) took
> effect. The National Federation of the Blind was instrumental in passing
> this
> provision of the HAVA, which requires that every polling place have at
least
> one voting machine that can be used independently by the blind. Most
> jurisdictions
> now have such equipment in place. News organizations have been taking
> notice of the benefits the new equipment brings to the blind. Today, we
> found
> this article
> in the Rocky Mountain News, featuring Federationists Scott LaBarre and
Ray
> and Dianne McGeorge. Not all jurisdictions have implemented new voting
> equipment
> that is usable by the blind, and many are using such equipment for the
first
> time. Although we hope that voting will go smoothly for most blind
> Americans
> on Tuesday, some problems can be expected owing to the new technology.
The
> National Federation of the Blind wants to know if any blind voter
encounters
> a voting place that is noncompliant. If you experience problems voting on
> Election Day, please call The National Federation of the Blind HAVA
National
> Compliance Hotline at 1-877-632-1940. (A handy way to remember the
> toll-free number is that the digits 632 also spell out NFB on the
telephone
> keypad,
> and the NFB was founded in 1940). The National Federation of the Blind
will
> use the data collected to analyze how well implementation of HAVA is
going,
> and we will follow up on problems experienced by blind voters if it is
> necessary to notify election officials or file a formal complaint with the
> United
> States Department of Justice. The main purpose of the hotline is to
report
> voting problems, but if you want to tell us about a positive voting
> experience,
> you can
> email VNB
> , or drop a line to Jim McCarthy, the NFB's Director of Governmental
> Affairs, at
> jmccarthy at nfb.org
> . If you don't have Internet access, go ahead and give the hotline a
call.
> The line will be open from 7 a.m. - 10 p.m. on Election Day and during
> normal
> Federation business hours, 8 a.m. - 5 p.m., on Wednesday, November 8.
After
> the hotline closes, the best way to report problems is to email Jim
McCarthy
> or call him at 410-659-9314, extension 2207. The VNB urges all readers
who
> are eligible to vote to do so on November 7. It's important for every
> American
> to vote, and it's important for blind Americans to let election officials
> know that we appreciate the ability to vote independently and in secret.
>
> If the links in the above pasted post don't work, you can read the post
> on-line by following this URL:
> http://www.nfb.org/nfb/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=89&SnID=1263005911
>
>
> Feel free to post this message or link to the Blog post on any
> blindness-related list or group of which you are a member.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Danielsen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rumpole"
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
>
>
> > Good morning everyone -
> >
> > I am pleased to hear how many people plan to vote using the Accessible
> > voting system in their location.
> > Like many here I will be voting using it and will have a secret ballot
for
> > the first time in over 30 years. I'm really looking forward to it.
> >
> > There are, as far as I know, at least 3 people on this list who are
> > involved
> > in the Help America Vote Act work as it applies to this election. I am
one
> > of those people.
> > I would like to ask for those on this list who vote tuesday, to please
> > either post their impressions of their voting experience here, or email
me
> > off list with their feedback.
> > Whether it is good or bad, I'd like to hear what you have to say about
it.
> > The three prime areas I'd like your views on are 1. did you have any
> > trouble getting into or out of the polling place? 2. did the voting
system
> > in your state or jurisdiction work as well as you thought it would - and
> > if
> > you have any suggestions on how to make it a bit better, please let me
> > know
> > that as well.
> > And 3. did you have any difficulty at all with a pole worker or voting
> > official?
> >
> > Some states reported that pole workers did not know that the new
> > accessible
> > voting systems are not strictly reserved for individuals with a
> > disability -
> > that anyone is welcome to use it. Many reports like that one stemmed
from
> > experiences gleemed during their primary election, and many states have
> > taken those experiences to heart and spent a great deal of time
educating
> > their election officials about not only who is welcome to use the
> > accessible
> > voting system, but what is, and is not appropriate behavior and
treatment
> > of
> > individuals with a disability.
> >
> > I do not wish to clog up the list with this request, so if you'd rather
> > post
> > to me off list, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LockeMilholland"
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >
> >
> >>I voted today using an automark voting system for the first time. The
> >> screen faced the wall. The system used a jaws program designed for
> >> reading
> >> ballots and allowing a five button interface to select candidates. The
> >> volume control was adjustable on the machine. Listening was
accomplished
> >> using a headset.
> >>
> >>
> >> For the first time in 13 years and the second time in my life, I voted
> >> privately.
> >>
> >> I hope to get a job with one of the people I voted for, so it is one of
> >> my
> >> most informed and important elections.
> >>
> >> Locke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Ramsey"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Mark,
> >>>
> >>> Yes I did have a headset and the volume control was located in the
> >>> speaker
> >>> line. Also, I was instructed to cover the touch screen so that it
could
> >>> be
> >>> viewed without my knowledge. I had a great voting experience and for
> >>> once
> >>> have found myself writing a positive review.
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 06:09:16 -0500
From: "Rumpole"
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
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It is also critical to note that local enforcement of voting issues lay with
the Protection and Advocacy Office located in your state. HAVA has a section
in it that specifically notes the role of P & A offices regarding HAVA.
They have attorneys who are well versed in local election laws as well as
in other avenues of voting access enforcement in your state.
This would be in addition to the HAVA complaint process (administrative
only) in your State, usually done through the Secretary of State's election
office.
I would make certain that you know the contact information for the
Protection and Advocacy office in your state - usually known as a Disability
Rights Center or Office, and deal with them one-on-one. This will have a
more immediate and local impact on any HAVA violation.
The foregoing would be in addition to letting the NFB know of a violation.
For your voice and your rights, VOTE!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Danielsen"
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> Dear Fellow Federationists<
>
> In the same vein as the message below, I want to call your attention to
this
> post from Voice of the Nation's Blind, the blog of the National Federation
> of the Blind, regarding the NFB National HAVA Compliance Hotline.
>
> Election Day
>
> 11/3/2006 10:40:00 AMTuesday, November 7, a mere four days away, is
Election
> Day. As we have pointed out in the past, this election is the first since
> the nonvisual access provisions of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) took
> effect. The National Federation of the Blind was instrumental in passing
> this
> provision of the HAVA, which requires that every polling place have at
least
> one voting machine that can be used independently by the blind. Most
> jurisdictions
> now have such equipment in place. News organizations have been taking
> notice of the benefits the new equipment brings to the blind. Today, we
> found
> this article
> in the Rocky Mountain News, featuring Federationists Scott LaBarre and
Ray
> and Dianne McGeorge. Not all jurisdictions have implemented new voting
> equipment
> that is usable by the blind, and many are using such equipment for the
first
> time. Although we hope that voting will go smoothly for most blind
> Americans
> on Tuesday, some problems can be expected owing to the new technology.
The
> National Federation of the Blind wants to know if any blind voter
encounters
> a voting place that is noncompliant. If you experience problems voting on
> Election Day, please call The National Federation of the Blind HAVA
National
> Compliance Hotline at 1-877-632-1940. (A handy way to remember the
> toll-free number is that the digits 632 also spell out NFB on the
telephone
> keypad,
> and the NFB was founded in 1940). The National Federation of the Blind
will
> use the data collected to analyze how well implementation of HAVA is
going,
> and we will follow up on problems experienced by blind voters if it is
> necessary to notify election officials or file a formal complaint with the
> United
> States Department of Justice. The main purpose of the hotline is to
report
> voting problems, but if you want to tell us about a positive voting
> experience,
> you can
> email VNB
> , or drop a line to Jim McCarthy, the NFB's Director of Governmental
> Affairs, at
> jmccarthy at nfb.org
> . If you don't have Internet access, go ahead and give the hotline a
call.
> The line will be open from 7 a.m. - 10 p.m. on Election Day and during
> normal
> Federation business hours, 8 a.m. - 5 p.m., on Wednesday, November 8.
After
> the hotline closes, the best way to report problems is to email Jim
McCarthy
> or call him at 410-659-9314, extension 2207. The VNB urges all readers
who
> are eligible to vote to do so on November 7. It's important for every
> American
> to vote, and it's important for blind Americans to let election officials
> know that we appreciate the ability to vote independently and in secret.
>
> If the links in the above pasted post don't work, you can read the post
> on-line by following this URL:
> http://www.nfb.org/nfb/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=89&SnID=1263005911
>
>
> Feel free to post this message or link to the Blog post on any
> blindness-related list or group of which you are a member.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Danielsen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rumpole"
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
>
>
> > Good morning everyone -
> >
> > I am pleased to hear how many people plan to vote using the Accessible
> > voting system in their location.
> > Like many here I will be voting using it and will have a secret ballot
for
> > the first time in over 30 years. I'm really looking forward to it.
> >
> > There are, as far as I know, at least 3 people on this list who are
> > involved
> > in the Help America Vote Act work as it applies to this election. I am
one
> > of those people.
> > I would like to ask for those on this list who vote tuesday, to please
> > either post their impressions of their voting experience here, or email
me
> > off list with their feedback.
> > Whether it is good or bad, I'd like to hear what you have to say about
it.
> > The three prime areas I'd like your views on are 1. did you have any
> > trouble getting into or out of the polling place? 2. did the voting
system
> > in your state or jurisdiction work as well as you thought it would - and
> > if
> > you have any suggestions on how to make it a bit better, please let me
> > know
> > that as well.
> > And 3. did you have any difficulty at all with a pole worker or voting
> > official?
> >
> > Some states reported that pole workers did not know that the new
> > accessible
> > voting systems are not strictly reserved for individuals with a
> > disability -
> > that anyone is welcome to use it. Many reports like that one stemmed
from
> > experiences gleemed during their primary election, and many states have
> > taken those experiences to heart and spent a great deal of time
educating
> > their election officials about not only who is welcome to use the
> > accessible
> > voting system, but what is, and is not appropriate behavior and
treatment
> > of
> > individuals with a disability.
> >
> > I do not wish to clog up the list with this request, so if you'd rather
> > post
> > to me off list, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > Ross A. Doerr Esquire
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LockeMilholland"
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List"
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >
> >
> >>I voted today using an automark voting system for the first time. The
> >> screen faced the wall. The system used a jaws program designed for
> >> reading
> >> ballots and allowing a five button interface to select candidates. The
> >> volume control was adjustable on the machine. Listening was
accomplished
> >> using a headset.
> >>
> >>
> >> For the first time in 13 years and the second time in my life, I voted
> >> privately.
> >>
> >> I hope to get a job with one of the people I voted for, so it is one of
> >> my
> >> most informed and important elections.
> >>
> >> Locke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Ramsey"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Voting Anonymity
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Mark,
> >>>
> >>> Yes I did have a headset and the volume control was located in the
> >>> speaker
> >>> line. Also, I was instructed to cover the touch screen so that it
could
> >>> be
> >>> viewed without my knowledge. I had a great voting experience and for
> >>> once
> >>> have found myself writing a positive review.
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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